At last... a car styling that isn't fussy and "creased" or "flame surfaced" or other such crap. It looks handsome, graceful and sporty. Interior is similarly restrained, with no over-the-top mega-size screen or 15 different materials mixed together. Reminds me of the older Audis design language. Software is awesome. If it drives as well as you said it does, I would totally buy this. That's actually the ONLY electric car I ever said this about (aside from the multi million dollar Rimac Neverra). And I'm a die-hard petrolhead 🤣. Wow. I'm impressed._
Fully agree, also a complete petrol head (nothing better than a burble from a V8) all time favourite car 1966 E Type Jaguar FHC. Now I await delivery of my ultra quiet,super smooth Nio ES6!! (Hopefully before the end of October)
@@lokitaoSo why cannot the US companies do the same then? Even Tesla without China it cannot innovate. The latest cars are now can only be made possible by Shanghai factory. It’s impossible to innovate at high speed in the US. Most Americans never realize China’s role in American innovations
Yes, please. I have an Ioniq 5 but I would've loved to get a smaller wagon option if there was something more price-competitive than the Taycan on the market.
@@NyashaM that's not Lidar resolution but maybe the camera your thinking about, and NIO's 11 cameras are 8 megapixels. The NIO Lidar can also increase the scan resolution in the area of interest.
The ET5 costs €60,000 ($65,924) in Europe if customers buy and charge the battery themselves. The NIO ET5 costs €47,000 ($51,641.72) if customers lease the battery monthly. NIO's battery leases come with unlimited free swaps.
170 euros a month after taxes is a fair price for two SWAPs, a guarantee that your battery will forever be in the healthiest condition, upgrades, and future cost reduction. That's why I think it's fair to measure the price by the price excluding the battery. The most important point, NIO is a standard. NIO's strategy is to put everything important inside and let them choose color and small additions. Tesla, on the other hand, puts everything important to your choice. There are two methods here, one can argue about which one is the right one. (I personally think Tesla's method is better) This means a significant difference in the entry price. But if you do a head-to-head comparison, NIO is actually much more attractive than Tesla. (I am going to make the comparison based on the model 3 Highland and the ET5T in Germany, assuming that the vehicles themselves are the same at their level) First we will add dual drive, 19 inch wheels, we will add a white interior, (because at NIO the most beautiful interior is free) we will also add autonomous driving because With NIO, this is the standard, (in fact, NIO has more than twice as many sensors for autonomous driving as Tesla, and all of those are of a much higher resolution than Tesla's, some even for a long range of 200 meters) So, NIO ET5T 45 thousand euros, Tesla 63 thousand euros, so tell me, well, not all customers want dual drive, so they lose five things about it , they lose a lot of things about it, 1, less performance, 2, less grip on the road, 3, less good for off-road 4, dual drive doubles the shelf life of The propulsion system, 5, and probably the most important, the charging of drops to 170 at the peak, and we know that with Tesla the curve drops quickly so this is very significant. That's why you must purchase the double drive in 75 percent of the cases. But let's say you still insist on choosing the rear-wheel drive version, the price drops to $53,000, still much more expensive than the NIO.
You’re still getting recharged batteries, no? No trolling, I’m a NIO investor since 2018 and been DCAing ever since. But, the comments about battery swapping confuse me. Maybe it’s just my ignorance, but swapping doesn’t change your battery life since the battery that replaces your previous one is still a used battery. I do think it’s a more efficient method though.
"We need an F 350 to go to the grocery store" Lol so true. I can't tell you how many Range Rovers I see slowing down to go over gravel on an unpaved street.
@ndukasmithNIO has a large office in San Jose, California. That’s where they develop much of their software. Also serves as something that will make it easier for their inevitable entry to the US market. I just hope that they focus more on fast charging here instead of battery swap.
The two things you mentioned are not important at all, they are just ancillary ，the most important thing is the three electric technology ， You didn't mention it at all, just like your BBC relatives in your bones
Moreover, the research and development centers in the United States are essentially for business purposes, and the real software research and development is located in Shanghai, In addition, 70% of Tesla's American engineers is Chinese, understand?
There is no way you can keep up with Huawei, XiaoPeng, Li Auto, Geely's Flyme auto on software if you rely on the small US team. The best US software is in Tesla, which is at least 1 or 2 generations behind the best ones.
Because big corporations own US government & they will legally bribe their way via lobbying in order to monopolize the market. Don't be surprised if US would use "national security" as their usual excuse to stop & ban Chinese competition in the EV market. It's definitely harming American consumers by doing so.
You know Geli or simply Geely means Ticklish in Indonesian 😅🤣 After all NIO is really much better than present day bankrupted Volvo. As NIO is backed by Lenovo since the foundation.
At 49:29 I love to the camera views the car provides. What a disappointment the new Model 3 is, no front camera, no 360° camera view with ability to select areas. Nio or BYD will be on my list after my lease run out on my current Model 3. What I also see in this car has a dark roof option, Model 3 or Y, no option, tinted rear window, New Model 3 does not have....honestly for the price a much better option than the Model 3.
@@leanlifer There is more difference in efficiency between SUV (frontal area) and wagons than between wagons and sedans. Wagons are much more practical than sedans.
If Nio comes to the US, it will be a huge threat to the American made EVs. And Americans will definitely pay for a hassle free, community base lifestyle.
@@hasanturgut2712They do wanna selling in the U.S market to provide better EV,and CEO was complain about barrier.Anyways no competitions in U.S market which EV will be left behind.Look at what kind of EV we can get in Cali?Only Lucid or Tesla you might consider.
@@yueli333 the problem is Nio afraid sanctions if go us market. Nio produce Premium and advance ev cars . For my opinion they are best. I just visited Nio showroom (Shenzhen) and tested ES8. Again they no plan to go us as long as American thread.
@@AZ-rg3rf Sure, but if you are familiar with the NIO story you know of their design center in Munich, Germany. I was refering to the particular popularity of the (sporty) station wagon in Germany.
Do you currently have more cameras in your car than zeekr001? Cars with too many cameras will not be allowed to enter North America, and your president will follow the United States.@@surturiel
hi, nio user here, Nio just secretly improved the 100kwh battery pack this year, it is now 2.3C battery with max charging speed 230kw. I havent been able to try it yet, heard many nice things about it
It is so disappointed that American consumers don't have much of choice and competition in EV. I already aim ET5 Touring or ES6 as soon as it is available in the US, but I don't think it happens any time soon. Well, I keep hanging on ICE car instead
It would probably be price-prohibative, we currently impose something like a 25% import tarriff on Chinese goods such as these -- just stating facts, not forming a political judgement here
@@scoopman You are correct about 25% tariff and I am well aware of that. Plus sale tax will be collected by the local government based on your registered address for the new car.
Unfortunately US is slowly becoming one of the most enclosed market with tons of tariffs and political agenda attached to all consumer imports...just look at the crazy inflation -- that's what tariff and lack of market competition does to the economy...and we've our corrupted politicians to thank for that
We're also not even the top targeted customer base for ALL EV's. Tesla is releasing the Model 3 Highland everywhere else first and will release in America well into 2024. An American company not selling its new product first in America...
@@scoopman Yea, protectionism because the US is afraid that China will dominate US companies and thus not force US companies to compete in both price and tech.
🇺🇸🇺🇸 I world love to see more competition in the USA. Better prices, performance, and innovations. But, the USA govt regime will pump scare propoganda!
Because big corporations own US government & they will legally bribe their way via lobbying in order to monopolize the market. Don't be surprised if US would use "national security" as their usual excuse to stop & ban Chinese competition in the EV market. It's definitely harming American consumers by doing so.
The risk of entering North American market for Chinese cars is very high. It only takes one or two fake news from CNN or Fox to wipe out the investment. For example, if MSM reports that Chinese cars may spy on you and even if they show absolutely no evidence, lots of North Americans would totally believe that.
NIO ET5t is the best one NIO has made so far. NIO is a MONSTER in the making, Our only weakness is our stock price. The rest of NIO is technologically superior in every way. Legacy could only dream of being NIO
@@californiaprince pathetic LMAO the new highland m3 is already hitting 1,200+ made every DAY! And tesla builds cars in 3 other plants globally with 2 for 2+consecutive years winning awards for the most efficient plants in existence. 😎
NEO - Please bring this car to the USA!! I am a current 2005 Audi S4 Avant (4.2 V8 Manual). Love wagons for the utility and sporty driving. Amazing wagons are not more popular in the USA. Put a NACS connector on it and I will gladly reserve one!! Kyle and Alyssa, fantastic review as always! And thank you for the great audio!
Don't be surprised if US would use "national security" as their usual excuse to stop & ban Chinese competition in the EV market. It's definitely harming American consumers by doing so.
Nio making the cellphone the main reason the car can use cell phone cpu and memory for secondary sources. (car and cell phone use Qualcomm IC) all EV cars use hundred IC and EV cars often need update the software. after many updates car become slow and response time longer.(touch control and command) the Nio cellphone help keep fast Nio cars for decades. in the future you don't need to change your car for make it faster.Each year update your Nio phone is okay. this is revolution for EV car industry.
I cannot wait till Nio to start selling cars in California. The battery swapping would be so handy as someone who occasionally goes on roadtrips but usually charges at home/work for 99% of the time
This ET5 is looking really good. Give it some time and you will see these everywhere. I live in NY, battery swap would kill over here. I makes so much sense
@18:30 "Not great for styling" ... I guess "to each their own". So many creatures on the planet have body protrusions that look fine on them. That's what makes them distinctive.
Interesting how he is quick to point out seemingly tiny issues and compare it to other cars… however when it comes to real advantages he just says good or interesting and does not even mention other cars, for instance the massage features, no tesla or porsche have such features… overall built quality is far better than teslas, not even the same class, everything else his own subjective taste… clearly china biased..
The car looks and feels great. Great software and self-driving functions. If the price were smaller, I could buy this car. If not, maybe in 3 years we could buy it from the 2nd hand market.
styling realy is nice. Almost classy, Alfa Romeo, Aston Martin, Porsche.... but the price for a Chinese car... I am very doubtfull about it's sales potential.. I would not buy it for 50k plus monthly battery fee...
I have noticed that there is a lot of negative sentiment towards this brand, most likely from Tesla fanboys who may not be well informed about NIO. However, I think NIO is at fault for only promoting the lifestyle aspects of their cars instead of all the benefits they provide.
china owns a part of all chinese companies. lousy wages.. no unions.. remember the hong kong riots/protest... cell phones data mining and info sent back to the government...the full city lockdowns where areas were WELDED SHUT to keep people in a confined area. tianamen square.... the list goes on and on... Elon is a dick.. Rivian has alexa on board... though i'd take those two companies in a nanosecond in comparison to this red flag company!!!!!! @@onetwothreefour-s1n
Ehhh.... I wouldn't want to rent a battery pack... it's the whole you'll own nothing and be happy crap. It also doesn't make sense how are you cooling it and conditioning the pack?
Nice to see an EV with a 100kwh battery pack that isn't an SUV, that's indeed a breath of fresh air into the SUV suffocation assault that has been going on!
@tdpiersonavoca 0 seconds ago I like your videos, but again the videographer is often too far away and immobile (effectively serving as a tripod). How about a walk around with closeups and different angles while you’re narrating? Well done otherwise though.
1. The reason the phone charger is triggering the payment app is that the charger also has an NFC receiver. Your phone is likely set up to activate the payment app whenever it detects NFC. But its understandably annoying. 2. The window switches are not backwards (but intuitively it may feel that way). Normally they would be turned 90 degrees on a normal car. But push is down, pull is up. Same thing here. Push is down, pull is up. Also, analogous to the gear shifter. Pulling is forward, pushing is reverse. GREAT review by the way, and really interesting to see the improvements of Banyan 2.0.0 (even if it's beta). I got the impression the AP is much better too now? That part has had some fairly negative critique from reviewers and users with the current software. Hopefully you will get the opportunity to review the EL6 as well soon (coming roughly the same time as ET5t), that would be very interesting to watch.
Nobody is talking about the revenue potential in having swap stations as advertising revenue. IMAGINE! USD 500 (advertising revenue) x 3000 swap stations x 365 days is alooot of revenue and shareholder value!!
FYI: I know you stated you do not like the LIDAR on roof. NIO did that on purpose to flex their technology and show people they have lidar. They could of implemented under the roof but its more of a FLEX and showing off to other brands they are ahead with tech. :)
I bought a model 3 performance a year ago, its size is very good and suitable for city life. But now let me choose, and I will most likely choose this one. Because sometimes I still need to take some big things, such as bicycles, furniture, etc.
BaaS will come into its own with 10+ year old cars resale value with a guaranteed battery quality. Even a battery replacement for purchased batteries will be reasonable. This hasn't really hit older EV's yet as only a few Tesla's are over 10+ years.
Damn, I wish we could get cars like this in Canada. There basically aren't any good or affordable electric or PHEV wagons here, they just don't seem to sell well. Not that this is very affordable anyway, with a battery here it would likely be over 100k CAD.
the V60 recharge was pretty awesome for the 2 years they offered it... V60 polestar power, at 60k CAD. but i literally had to preorder mine, and i've never seen another in the wild... on top of it being a pretty compromised car.
@@Cal94 I looked at those, but if you go on the Volvo site now they are like 77.5k. I really wish someone like Hyundai would just make an Ioniq 6 wagon for like 59.9k. I'd still much rather a PHEV style though... Like a Subaru Impreza Touring with 60km of range for 48k minus the 10k rebate in some places would sell like hotcakes on a maple farm IMO.
@@Snerdles Oh if I were I shopping today, i'd probably settle for a niro PHEV, or maverick hybrid. I'm not in a tax bracket where i can saddle a 70k car with kayaks and bikes and not worry about dents and paint scratches. Subaru... The paradigm that "americans don't want wagons, they want SUVs" is physically embodied in the Subaru Outback's development from the mid 2000s to the present. Subaru was right. The outback is a great car. and I will forever be salty about it. I'd rather mazda put a PHEV drivetrain into the cx-50 and get lowering springs.
it will do FANTASTIC in europe love how nio improved the charging speed and the overall software experience as well as the HUGE regen vs tesla tesla 84kw regen, nio 224kw :o
I don't get it why we're still getting sedans. Liftback is way better, sedan is so impractical when it comes to putting ANY cargo in the trunk... And kombi/wagon/touring/estate for the win!
Just a small tip, you can sign up for a NIO account, and NIO has its own rental car service in China, otherwise it would be hard to find a rental NIO with a good coverage. However it's not gonna be too cheap. Good luck and have fun!
@ 09:27 Power = Voltage x Current, so 230V x 10A = 2300W or 2.3kW. This also explains why the 800V architecture cars can charge faster because they can run a lower Current compared to 400V architecture.
If I had the money, I would buy one immediately. I recently took the ES6 for a small test drive and I was really impressed. Of all Chinese car brands, Nio may be the one adapted best for the European market. If you cannot find something in the menus, or if you think your massage setting is not what you want: ask Nomi. Asking Nomi about things in the car really works well. Detailed navigation does not work well if you use Nomi, you'd better use the navigation system. I don't agree with the car modes not delivering full power. Tesla has a Chill mode, because the standard Sport mode with full power just has too much power. That holds for any electric car, especially a car as fast as a Tesla or this Nio. You will mainly use the car in comfort mode I think, and you can use Nomi to use another drive mode. The tow hitch is a paid option, so is the Nomi head. Here in The Netherlands, the car costs 51900 euros, the larger battery will cost 289 euros per month instead of 169, and it will cost 21000 euros to buy instead of 12000 for the smaller battery.
I've recently got this ET5 Touring (used to be ET5T, now touring is just a spec under the ET5 model name), and driven the crap out of it. It's extremely fun even on road trips, especially after draining the battery to near 5%, I can just head to the nearest battery swap station and get about 95% charge in 10 minutes (different battery, 100kWh, charge limited to 95% to protect the shared batteries I assume, but hey you can buy the car without the battery and subscribe to them, 75/100/150 kWh). The interior is super nice and I even set it to the Mercedes Red and Blue theme for the night drives, and Pink and Baby Blue for the Barbie vibes. The only two gripes of my ownership would be: the charging infrastructure in China -- I gotta charge it up a bit before reaching the swapping station but only 1 out of 5 fast charging station worked, super frustrating; then there's the battery overheating -- after driving at 200kph+ for a few minutes, the acceleration was astrocious and the regenerative braking was reduced. I'd def choose this in the US as well if it supports the Tesla Supercharging Network.
@@7itese840 good deal, at least it's not the nio chargers that are disabled, lol. Thank you for taking the time to let us know your experience with the vehicle. Someday in the future the nio 500kW chargers will be useful.
Like the gin & juice drink holders Great look for sure Can really see the value of Asia pushing Tesla in a way that GM and Ford don’t seem to be up to doing at the moment
Tesla pushed Asia not the other way around, they outsell the Koreans in Korea and in pure ev sales still rule the globe. So now how nice that Asia has all the ammo they need to go out and conquer the existing none Asian legacy ice oems across the globe. China is already up to fkn 2nd globally in exporting car's! Gd Hypocrites all complain about the U.S. import tariffs while they also impose 15-40% tariffs on any none Chinese built imported vehicle's depending on the country of origin, vehicle size, engine size etc. 😑
I think a lot of the steer away from wagons in the US is that they normally fall under brands that either dont have high reliability, are too expensive, or maintenance is through the roof. Bring this to the US at a reasonable price and they'd sell every one of them. I know i want one!
The factory produced for Nio is JAC, in the past 20 years, JAC has been known for producing terribly unreliable cars. Chinese cars have even worth so-called "quality" than Korean cars (there are a lot of different aspects in the word "quality"). US had Volvo before, which is a very reliable car and it does not sell. Wagon is such a niche market, I own a wagon in US, but most US customers buy SUVs or Trucks when wagon is most likely what they need.
I know it’s new for you but you know what is required when driving 175-200 km/h? That you keep your eyes on the road, hands on the steering wheel and your attention on your driving and stop talking for 10 seconds. Certainly NOT look at someone on the passenger seat or the camera. A shit load of accidents happen on that autobahn you drove and you were driving like doing 100 km/h. Come on, man!
I seen posts in the past in China and they were always manned.... So that would be an interesting new cost effective development.... Thanks for the info....
Why do people rag on USB-A so much? Many, many phones are still sold with A to C cables. It's just a convince thing so people don't have to go out and buy a C to C cable. Also, you can hypothetically charge just as fast with USB-A. It's different jack design made out of the same materials.
Model 3 being benchmark lost me in the video. :D Model 3 has nothing to do being a benchmark of quality in EVs. Its a benchmark somewhat in terms of price but nowhere near comfort or sound insulation or overall value. Such a cheapo feeling car.
Kyle is such a pretender. Every moment he's proving he knows nothing while he claims the opposite. He and Sandy Munro are true grifters. Why shouldn't a Chinese car be fun to drive, Kyle? There must be some good software in their somewhere that does that, right?
@@volkhardzentgraf6484 I'll believe it when I see it, I know would like to as would BYD and more of the Geely arms but with the tariffs I don't know about that. They might also choose not to bring this one as American buyers don't buy many wagons even if they do roll the dice.
Actually there have been chinese brands much earlier than Nio on the german market e.g. MG or Aiways. And don't forget that on german prices the 19% sales taxes are included (except if you buy good, brooks, newspapers or pet food, than it is 7% included).
nio plans to build a thousand battery swap stations in Europe by 2025. Currently there are over 1750 battery swap stations in China and this is the proof that they are able to meet this goal. Through the back in NT3 there will be a charging of 500KW, as of today there are already more than 500 such chargers that are available to the public (not only for nio) nio is building them at a rate of 100 per month.
I especially want to drive or own an EV with the guarantee that battery replacement and service will be available for a long time. I hear that Chinese EV brands excel in very poor service and factory support even in their own home market.
Other manufacturers need to take note of this. The battery swap is the key. Nio should license this out which would enable other manufacturers to fund Nio’s global growth and lease their battery swap stations so they could expand the infrastructure. Being stuck with old tech batteries is a major hurdle why I wont go EV. As battery tech improves with efficiency , which it is, Nio owners will be able to simply lease / buy a new battery. Got a Tesla? you’ll be stuck with what you’ve got and rubbish resale guaranteed.
There are adoption issues with all EVs at the moment, starting with the price, reliability, longetivity from ownership perspective, etc. Because adoption is not wide spread (if they were cheaper that adoption rate would be far better), EV industry is not maturing and developing fast enough to drive the price down... problematic is also used EV car market... no one wants to have "issues" with these... Future of EVs? Sure, I think it will happen, but may take some time... when? Well, perhaps EVs are good for leasing or renting, but not for owning...
At last... a car styling that isn't fussy and "creased" or "flame surfaced" or other such crap. It looks handsome, graceful and sporty. Interior is similarly restrained, with no over-the-top mega-size screen or 15 different materials mixed together. Reminds me of the older Audis design language. Software is awesome. If it drives as well as you said it does, I would totally buy this. That's actually the ONLY electric car I ever said this about (aside from the multi million dollar Rimac Neverra). And I'm a die-hard petrolhead 🤣. Wow. I'm impressed._
Fully agree, also a complete petrol head (nothing better than a burble from a V8) all time favourite car 1966 E Type Jaguar FHC. Now I await delivery of my ultra quiet,super smooth Nio ES6!! (Hopefully before the end of October)
Haven driven nio in China for years, it’s great to see it going abroad. I bet they going to love it
Love estate/touring/wagon. Wish there were more options in the US.
Agreed; just one of the many ways in which Americans are idiots.
US government are extremely “sensitive” when talking about Chinese brands
不不不，中国汽车威胁美国国家安全。
@@lokitaoSo why cannot the US companies do the same then? Even Tesla without China it cannot innovate. The latest cars are now can only be made possible by Shanghai factory. It’s impossible to innovate at high speed in the US. Most Americans never realize China’s role in American innovations
@@js2009-g9f Delusion lololol you are used for cheap slave labor, nothing else. Enjoy the 12 hour work day.
Yes we need more EV wagons!!!!!!
Yes, please. I have an Ioniq 5 but I would've loved to get a smaller wagon option if there was something more price-competitive than the Taycan on the market.
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Still bummed we don’t get wagons in the U.S. anymore. All of the good stuff about and SUV and a sedan rolled into one.
Do you not have the corolla Wagon and those fancy Audi Wagons ? Quite schocked if it isn't the case becasue they are a hot seller in Europe.
The Lidar units look awesome there is nothing wrong with it. Compare the sleekness of NIO Lidar to that Google Waymo crap!
Yeah but those aren’t on consumer sold cars. A sign or advertisement is fine on a taxi, but a buyer doesn’t want that on their personal car
I also think it's fine.
the google version has insane resolution. This NIO lidar is a 1 megapixel camera compared to waymos 100 megapixel version
@@NyashaM that's not Lidar resolution but maybe the camera your thinking about, and NIO's 11 cameras are 8 megapixels. The NIO Lidar can also increase the scan resolution in the area of interest.
@@jak_k I was using an example
I just love Nomis voice, I would buy the car just for that 🙂
The ET5 costs €60,000 ($65,924) in Europe if customers buy and charge the battery themselves. The NIO ET5 costs €47,000 ($51,641.72) if customers lease the battery monthly. NIO's battery leases come with unlimited free swaps.
170 euros a month after taxes is a fair price for two SWAPs, a guarantee that your battery will forever be in the healthiest condition, upgrades, and future cost reduction. That's why I think it's fair to measure the price by the price excluding the battery. The most important point, NIO is a standard. NIO's strategy is to put everything important inside and let them choose color and small additions. Tesla, on the other hand, puts everything important to your choice. There are two methods here, one can argue about which one is the right one. (I personally think Tesla's method is better) This means a significant difference in the entry price. But if you do a head-to-head comparison, NIO is actually much more attractive than Tesla. (I am going to make the comparison based on the model 3 Highland and the ET5T in Germany, assuming that the vehicles themselves are the same at their level) First we will add dual drive, 19 inch wheels, we will add a white interior, (because at NIO the most beautiful interior is free) we will also add autonomous driving because With NIO, this is the standard, (in fact, NIO has more than twice as many sensors for autonomous driving as Tesla, and all of those are of a much higher resolution than Tesla's, some even for a long range of 200 meters) So, NIO ET5T 45 thousand euros, Tesla 63 thousand euros, so tell me, well, not all customers want dual drive, so they lose five things about it , they lose a lot of things about it, 1, less performance, 2, less grip on the road, 3, less good for off-road 4, dual drive doubles the shelf life of The propulsion system, 5, and probably the most important, the charging of drops to 170 at the peak, and we know that with Tesla the curve drops quickly so this is very significant. That's why you must purchase the double drive in 75 percent of the cases. But let's say you still insist on choosing the rear-wheel drive version, the price drops to $53,000, still much more expensive than the NIO.
You’re still getting recharged batteries, no?
No trolling, I’m a NIO investor since 2018 and been DCAing ever since.
But, the comments about battery swapping confuse me. Maybe it’s just my ignorance, but swapping doesn’t change your battery life since the battery that replaces your previous one is still a used battery.
I do think it’s a more efficient method though.
"We need an F 350 to go to the grocery store" Lol so true. I can't tell you how many Range Rovers I see slowing down to go over gravel on an unpaved street.
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I only see R Rovers on a lift being fixed. To see one in nature... like spotting big foot.
The number of full sized pickups I see crammed into compact car parking spots...I'm like, get a normal sized car for going to the store, you assholes
@@seymorefact4333I've NEVER seen a Range Rover on any surface other than pavement, and theres a ton of them here in Southern California
@@edkwon 😂😆
It all sounds great. I'm particularly pleased with the enhanced charging performance and the improved software. Many thanks to you, Kyle and Alyssa
Globalisation is just so awesome. Car designed in Germany (at least for the ET7), software from the US and the Car made in China😅
World without many politicians would be interesting
@ndukasmithNIO has a large office in San Jose, California. That’s where they develop much of their software. Also serves as something that will make it easier for their inevitable entry to the US market. I just hope that they focus more on fast charging here instead of battery swap.
The two things you mentioned are not important at all, they are just ancillary ，the most important thing is the three electric technology ， You didn't mention it at all, just like your BBC relatives in your bones
Moreover, the research and development centers in the United States are essentially for business purposes, and the real software research and development is located in Shanghai, In addition, 70% of Tesla's American engineers is Chinese, understand?
There is no way you can keep up with Huawei, XiaoPeng, Li Auto, Geely's Flyme auto on software if you rely on the small US team. The best US software is in Tesla, which is at least 1 or 2 generations behind the best ones.
that's DOA here in the US with the tarriffs currently imposed on China, along with the great stuff from BYD, Zeekr/Geely, and the Avatr 12.....
Because big corporations own US government & they will legally bribe their way via lobbying in order to monopolize the market. Don't be surprised if US would use "national security" as their usual excuse to stop & ban Chinese competition in the EV market. It's definitely harming American consumers by doing so.
Yes, a real bummer. Everyone's complaining about the high price of cars and yet refuse to allow more competition into the market.
Technically speaking Volvo is already arrived which is geely.
You know Geli or simply Geely means Ticklish in Indonesian 😅🤣
After all NIO is really much better than present day bankrupted Volvo.
As NIO is backed by Lenovo since the foundation.
At 49:29 I love to the camera views the car provides. What a disappointment the new Model 3 is, no front camera, no 360° camera view with ability to select areas. Nio or BYD will be on my list after my lease run out on my current Model 3. What I also see in this car has a dark roof option, Model 3 or Y, no option, tinted rear window, New Model 3 does not have....honestly for the price a much better option than the Model 3.
Yeah, china gets 10 exterior color options and six interior colors for the car. The choices are wonderful and plentiful.
Nio is one of the Chinese brands, that don't have the Chinese look and feel.
In fact many Chinese EV manufacturers engaged car designers from Audi, Porsche etc so you'll see similarities to German car models
Just one word: FINALLY! Soooo much nicer than those silly sedans. Please give us more estate EVs!
Sedans are more drag efficient than Wagon. You will see much more sedans in EV segments.
That's also why most EV SUVs are “coupe”.
@@leanlifersure but not everyone buy ice cars based on mpg's only, likewise ev's
@@leanlifer There is more difference in efficiency between SUV (frontal area) and wagons than between wagons and sedans. Wagons are much more practical than sedans.
If Nio comes to the US, it will be a huge threat to the American made EVs. And Americans will definitely pay for a hassle free, community base lifestyle.
If Nio comes to the US, it will be a huge threat to the American made EVs.
That's exactly why it isn't in the US at the moment.
Nio no plan to enter US
@@hasanturgut2712They do wanna selling in the U.S market to provide better EV,and CEO was complain about barrier.Anyways no competitions in U.S market which EV will be left behind.Look at what kind of EV we can get in Cali?Only Lucid or Tesla you might consider.
@@yueli333 the problem is Nio afraid sanctions if go us market. Nio produce Premium and advance ev cars . For my opinion they are best. I just visited Nio showroom (Shenzhen) and tested ES8. Again they no plan to go us as long as American thread.
'Heise Autos, Li said NIO planned to enter the US market by the end of 2025'
Station wagon is the german SUV optimized for high speeds. 😜
Thanks for the very interesting and important test!
what german? Its a chinese brand
@@AZ-rg3rf Sure, but if you are familiar with the NIO story you know of their design center in Munich, Germany.
I was refering to the particular popularity of the (sporty) station wagon in Germany.
@@abraxastulammo9940 ah ok, good to know 👌
Man, I want this in Canada
It's the only car that'd make me give up on my Polestar
Because of Canada's national security concerns, you may not be able to buy it in Canada.
@@hexi-wo7ed That's a weak argument. My current car is made in China.
Do you currently have more cameras in your car than zeekr001? Cars with too many cameras will not be allowed to enter North America, and your president will follow the United States.@@surturiel
This is one of the nicest wagons ever designed, would totally buy in the US 👌❤
Due to national security reason, it's not allowed in the U.S. soil....😂
As much as we love nio, It will never ever happen even they already have a HQ in US.
Its a Porsche rip off if we are been honest
@@uzondulawrence5134 It doesn't look like a Porsche - at all.
china is not the west's friend, wake up
hi, nio user here, Nio just secretly improved the 100kwh battery pack this year, it is now 2.3C battery with max charging speed 230kw. I havent been able to try it yet, heard many nice things about it
No way! That's awesome. Let us know if you get to check it out yourself.
Reason for NFC triggering when phone charging is that you can do no-key driving. Use phone as key on the charger and confirm on phone :)
Epic NIO video, I can't wait for more content! $NIO
Wow, they straight up ripped off the Taycan Sport Turismo with that design. I literally thought it was a Taycan in your thumnail.
China you can buy the battery and swap. 4 or 6 free swaps per month .
It is so disappointed that American consumers don't have much of choice and competition in EV. I already aim ET5 Touring or ES6 as soon as it is available in the US, but I don't think it happens any time soon. Well, I keep hanging on ICE car instead
It would probably be price-prohibative, we currently impose something like a 25% import tarriff on Chinese goods such as these -- just stating facts, not forming a political judgement here
@@scoopman You are correct about 25% tariff and I am well aware of that. Plus sale tax will be collected by the local government based on your registered address for the new car.
Unfortunately US is slowly becoming one of the most enclosed market with tons of tariffs and political agenda attached to all consumer imports...just look at the crazy inflation -- that's what tariff and lack of market competition does to the economy...and we've our corrupted politicians to thank for that
We're also not even the top targeted customer base for ALL EV's. Tesla is releasing the Model 3 Highland everywhere else first and will release in America well into 2024. An American company not selling its new product first in America...
@@scoopman Yea, protectionism because the US is afraid that China will dominate US companies and thus not force US companies to compete in both price and tech.
I would love for you to make a NIO video every day. I think this car company will go far in the near future.
While you are in Germany, try out the Zeekr 001. Another great electric wagon in my opinion
zeekr001 FR
Zeekr fr is a sports car. It's not very relevant. Zeekr 001 is the relevant one, and it is less attractive. From NIO ET5T.
First german word you learn as a car enthusiast, sadly is Stau. (traffic jam)
🇺🇸🇺🇸 I world love to see more competition in the USA. Better prices, performance, and innovations.
But, the USA govt regime will pump scare propoganda!
Because big corporations own US government & they will legally bribe their way via lobbying in order to monopolize the market. Don't be surprised if US would use "national security" as their usual excuse to stop & ban Chinese competition in the EV market. It's definitely harming American consumers by doing so.
What a machine! Saw one in the neighborhood here recently (Norway); one of 8 now on the road...
to me,nio is much better than the tesla and the rest of the chinese evs
We need this in Canada ASAP. Enough of this protectionist anti-China crap 😡 If this was on sale here, I would buy one instantly.
I'm pretty sure Trudeau will label Nio as a major national security risk.
The risk of entering North American market for Chinese cars is very high. It only takes one or two fake news from CNN or Fox to wipe out the investment. For example, if MSM reports that Chinese cars may spy on you and even if they show absolutely no evidence, lots of North Americans would totally believe that.
You get the 75kWh then swap and pay for 100kWh for a vacation.
NIO ET5t is the best one NIO has made so far. NIO is a MONSTER in the making, Our only weakness is our stock price. The rest of NIO is technologically superior in every way. Legacy could only dream of being NIO
Thanks for made it happen!
Ep9 is the sexiest nio yet made. Et5 doesn't sell well at ALL and has been available in multiple trims for a year now.
@@4literv6 no fact what so ever Tesla fan. Wake up, ET5T sales in China are over 2000 per week.
@@californiaprince pathetic LMAO the new highland m3 is already hitting 1,200+ made every DAY!
And tesla builds cars in 3 other plants globally with 2 for 2+consecutive years winning awards for the most efficient plants in existence. 😎
@@4literv6 As proud American, I can't attack Tesla. At the same time NIO is an upcoming star and EV market can have several pioneers.
NEO - Please bring this car to the USA!! I am a current 2005 Audi S4 Avant (4.2 V8 Manual). Love wagons for the utility and sporty driving. Amazing wagons are not more popular in the USA. Put a NACS connector on it and I will gladly reserve one!! Kyle and Alyssa, fantastic review as always! And thank you for the great audio!
So many demands when they can't even sell anything here yet! I don't care if this ends up on CCS, I go to a fast charger maybe twice per year
Don't be surprised if US would use "national security" as their usual excuse to stop & ban Chinese competition in the EV market. It's definitely harming American consumers by doing so.
HOT HOT HOT
Developers in the States??? Are you kidding me??? Jesus dude do your research before posting
lidar is like the notch on the iPhone, ugly but iconic
Nio making the cellphone the main reason the car can use cell phone cpu and memory for secondary sources. (car and cell phone use Qualcomm IC) all EV cars use hundred IC and EV cars often need update the software. after many updates car become slow and response time longer.(touch control and command) the Nio cellphone help keep fast Nio cars for decades. in the future you don't need to change your car for make it faster.Each year update your Nio phone is okay. this is revolution for EV car industry.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing.
The NIO ET5 Touring is a fabulous looking EV!
I cannot wait till Nio to start selling cars in California. The battery swapping would be so handy as someone who occasionally goes on roadtrips but usually charges at home/work for 99% of the time
Battery swap will be important when the new battery tech is available
Looks like they just need to work on the sound system!
This ET5 is looking really good. Give it some time and you will see these everywhere. I live in NY, battery swap would kill over here. I makes so much sense
Don't think Nio or any Chinese company should touch the US market with a 10 foot poll, ZTE and Huawei used to sell there, look at what it got them to.
@@passby8070 you should ask the brilliant gay from white house, and congress
it's inevitable... just give it time. @@passby8070
@18:30 "Not great for styling" ... I guess "to each their own". So many creatures on the planet have body protrusions that look fine on them. That's what makes them distinctive.
Interesting how he is quick to point out seemingly tiny issues and compare it to other cars… however when it comes to real advantages he just says good or interesting and does not even mention other cars, for instance the massage features, no tesla or porsche have such features… overall built quality is far better than teslas, not even the same class, everything else his own subjective taste… clearly china biased..
The car looks and feels great. Great software and self-driving functions. If the price were smaller, I could buy this car. If not, maybe in 3 years we could buy it from the 2nd hand market.
You can also wait for the sub-brands that will cost 30 thousand euros in Europe in 2024.
By then it already burned down
im so excited with the new sub brand @@tani123
styling realy is nice. Almost classy, Alfa Romeo, Aston Martin, Porsche.... but the price for a Chinese car... I am very doubtfull about it's sales potential.. I would not buy it for 50k plus monthly battery fee...
I have noticed that there is a lot of negative sentiment towards this brand, most likely from Tesla fanboys who may not be well informed about NIO. However, I think NIO is at fault for only promoting the lifestyle aspects of their cars instead of all the benefits they provide.
Well said
china owns a part of all chinese companies. lousy wages.. no unions.. remember the hong kong riots/protest... cell phones data mining and info sent back to the government...the full city lockdowns where areas were WELDED SHUT to keep people in a confined area. tianamen square.... the list goes on and on... Elon is a dick.. Rivian has alexa on board... though i'd take those two companies in a nanosecond in comparison to this red flag company!!!!!! @@onetwothreefour-s1n
You are right, NIO has dropped the ball on promotion and hype. Objectively speaking they are perhaps providing the best package for the price.
很多人对中国品牌，中国制造还是抱有嘲笑的心态。没关系，时间会慢慢证明我们中国人在电动汽车产业链上下游的努力。
this is the perfect car for me
GIMME!!!!!!
Taycans r everywhere…price r plummeting dude….😅😅😂😂
Ehhh.... I wouldn't want to rent a battery pack... it's the whole you'll own nothing and be happy crap.
It also doesn't make sense how are you cooling it and conditioning the pack?
Then don't. You can buy it. Or just spend your time complaining about options you don't have to accept.
Nice to see an EV with a 100kwh battery pack that isn't an SUV, that's indeed a breath of fresh air into the SUV suffocation assault that has been going on!
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I like your videos, but again the videographer is often too far away and immobile (effectively serving as a tripod). How about a walk around with closeups and different angles while you’re narrating? Well done otherwise though.
Another excellent review Kyle. Thanks.
1. The reason the phone charger is triggering the payment app is that the charger also has an NFC receiver. Your phone is likely set up to activate the payment app whenever it detects NFC. But its understandably annoying.
2. The window switches are not backwards (but intuitively it may feel that way). Normally they would be turned 90 degrees on a normal car. But push is down, pull is up. Same thing here. Push is down, pull is up. Also, analogous to the gear shifter. Pulling is forward, pushing is reverse.
GREAT review by the way, and really interesting to see the improvements of Banyan 2.0.0 (even if it's beta). I got the impression the AP is much better too now? That part has had some fairly negative critique from reviewers and users with the current software.
Hopefully you will get the opportunity to review the EL6 as well soon (coming roughly the same time as ET5t), that would be very interesting to watch.
100% agree with the window switch one, it took me a month to get used to it.
Nobody is talking about the revenue potential in having swap stations as advertising revenue. IMAGINE! USD 500 (advertising revenue) x 3000 swap stations x 365 days is alooot of revenue and shareholder value!!
FYI: I know you stated you do not like the LIDAR on roof. NIO did that on purpose to flex their technology and show people they have lidar. They could of implemented under the roof but its more of a FLEX and showing off to other brands they are ahead with tech. :)
Say Hi to Nomi for me! Sign me up for the wagon!
I bought a model 3 performance a year ago, its size is very good and suitable for city life. But now let me choose, and I will most likely choose this one. Because sometimes I still need to take some big things, such as bicycles, furniture, etc.
You can still sell, and buy the et5 touring.
BaaS will come into its own with 10+ year old cars resale value with a guaranteed battery quality. Even a battery replacement for purchased batteries will be reasonable. This hasn't really hit older EV's yet as only a few Tesla's are over 10+ years.
Damn, I wish we could get cars like this in Canada. There basically aren't any good or affordable electric or PHEV wagons here, they just don't seem to sell well. Not that this is very affordable anyway, with a battery here it would likely be over 100k CAD.
the V60 recharge was pretty awesome for the 2 years they offered it... V60 polestar power, at 60k CAD. but i literally had to preorder mine, and i've never seen another in the wild... on top of it being a pretty compromised car.
@@Cal94 I looked at those, but if you go on the Volvo site now they are like 77.5k. I really wish someone like Hyundai would just make an Ioniq 6 wagon for like 59.9k. I'd still much rather a PHEV style though... Like a Subaru Impreza Touring with 60km of range for 48k minus the 10k rebate in some places would sell like hotcakes on a maple farm IMO.
@@Snerdles Oh if I were I shopping today, i'd probably settle for a niro PHEV, or maverick hybrid. I'm not in a tax bracket where i can saddle a 70k car with kayaks and bikes and not worry about dents and paint scratches.
Subaru... The paradigm that "americans don't want wagons, they want SUVs" is physically embodied in the Subaru Outback's development from the mid 2000s to the present. Subaru was right. The outback is a great car. and I will forever be salty about it. I'd rather mazda put a PHEV drivetrain into the cx-50 and get lowering springs.
Ya canada sux get out
Beautiful car. I hope this makes it to the states.
it will do FANTASTIC in europe
love how nio improved the charging speed and the overall software experience as well as the HUGE regen vs tesla
tesla 84kw regen, nio 224kw :o
I don't get it why we're still getting sedans. Liftback is way better, sedan is so impractical when it comes to putting ANY cargo in the trunk... And kombi/wagon/touring/estate for the win!
This car has 360 kilowatts = 483 horsepower
14:29 Woooow, Nio is the new e-tron of charging, move aside Q8 e-tron, you have a new master! 🤩
I’ll be road tripping Chinese car in China next month. Can’t wait to try a NIO.
Just a small tip, you can sign up for a NIO account, and NIO has its own rental car service in China, otherwise it would be hard to find a rental NIO with a good coverage. However it's not gonna be too cheap. Good luck and have fun!
The car is amazing. I am glad reviewers like him has interest in this car company.
This is a no question, day one order for me in the US if it were NACS.
Nobody is going to mention that Jack Black is a great car journalist!?
@ 09:27 Power = Voltage x Current, so 230V x 10A = 2300W or 2.3kW. This also explains why the 800V architecture cars can charge faster because they can run a lower Current compared to 400V architecture.
'Stau' - haha so, you have visited the German roads enough times.
It's either stau or a baustelle (roadworks) ;)
He watches Bjørn Nyland and has been to Germany multiple times
If I had the money, I would buy one immediately. I recently took the ES6 for a small test drive and I was really impressed. Of all Chinese car brands, Nio may be the one adapted best for the European market.
If you cannot find something in the menus, or if you think your massage setting is not what you want: ask Nomi. Asking Nomi about things in the car really works well. Detailed navigation does not work well if you use Nomi, you'd better use the navigation system. I don't agree with the car modes not delivering full power. Tesla has a Chill mode, because the standard Sport mode with full power just has too much power. That holds for any electric car, especially a car as fast as a Tesla or this Nio. You will mainly use the car in comfort mode I think, and you can use Nomi to use another drive mode.
The tow hitch is a paid option, so is the Nomi head. Here in The Netherlands, the car costs 51900 euros, the larger battery will cost 289 euros per month instead of 169, and it will cost 21000 euros to buy instead of 12000 for the smaller battery.
Best looking car
Looking forward to getting them here in the UK. Great video!
Also looking forward to seeing Munich again.
Nio battery charging speed is impressive😮
Battery swap will be important when the new battery tech is available...solid state etc..🙂
Currently 1800 Battery swaps in china target of 2700 by the end of the year. 🎉
I've recently got this ET5 Touring (used to be ET5T, now touring is just a spec under the ET5 model name), and driven the crap out of it. It's extremely fun even on road trips, especially after draining the battery to near 5%, I can just head to the nearest battery swap station and get about 95% charge in 10 minutes (different battery, 100kWh, charge limited to 95% to protect the shared batteries I assume, but hey you can buy the car without the battery and subscribe to them, 75/100/150 kWh). The interior is super nice and I even set it to the Mercedes Red and Blue theme for the night drives, and Pink and Baby Blue for the Barbie vibes. The only two gripes of my ownership would be: the charging infrastructure in China -- I gotta charge it up a bit before reaching the swapping station but only 1 out of 5 fast charging station worked, super frustrating; then there's the battery overheating -- after driving at 200kph+ for a few minutes, the acceleration was astrocious and the regenerative braking was reduced. I'd def choose this in the US as well if it supports the Tesla Supercharging Network.
**5 fast charging kiosks in 3 different stations
Nio chargers or public chargers?
Is your NIO charging at the same speed as in the video?
@@onetwothreefour-s1n Public chargers, I almost only look for battery swap stations on trips
@@7itese840 good deal, at least it's not the nio chargers that are disabled, lol. Thank you for taking the time to let us know your experience with the vehicle. Someday in the future the nio 500kW chargers will be useful.
Like the gin & juice drink holders
Great look for sure
Can really see the value of Asia pushing Tesla in a way that GM and Ford don’t seem to be up to doing at the moment
Tesla pushed Asia not the other way around, they outsell the Koreans in Korea and in pure ev sales still rule the globe.
So now how nice that Asia has all the ammo they need to go out and conquer the existing none Asian legacy ice oems across the globe.
China is already up to fkn 2nd globally in exporting car's!
Gd Hypocrites all complain about the U.S. import tariffs while they also impose 15-40% tariffs on any none Chinese built imported vehicle's depending on the country of origin, vehicle size, engine size etc. 😑
I think a lot of the steer away from wagons in the US is that they normally fall under brands that either dont have high reliability, are too expensive, or maintenance is through the roof. Bring this to the US at a reasonable price and they'd sell every one of them. I know i want one!
The factory produced for Nio is JAC, in the past 20 years, JAC has been known for producing terribly unreliable cars. Chinese cars have even worth so-called "quality" than Korean cars (there are a lot of different aspects in the word "quality"). US had Volvo before, which is a very reliable car and it does not sell. Wagon is such a niche market, I own a wagon in US, but most US customers buy SUVs or Trucks when wagon is most likely what they need.
Subaru Outback - we need an electric version
Good car. The only issue is sale number is quite low
Too expensive outside China
I know it’s new for you but you know what is required when driving 175-200 km/h? That you keep your eyes on the road, hands on the steering wheel and your attention on your driving and stop talking for 10 seconds. Certainly NOT look at someone on the passenger seat or the camera.
A shit load of accidents happen on that autobahn you drove and you were driving like doing 100 km/h. Come on, man!
Nios swap station in Varberg, Sweden is unmanned. Maybe only new stations are manned for a limited time?
I seen posts in the past in China and they were always manned.... So that would be an interesting new cost effective development.... Thanks for the info....
LOOKS better than a Taycan, too.
the sedan version looks even better...
Why do people rag on USB-A so much? Many, many phones are still sold with A to C cables. It's just a convince thing so people don't have to go out and buy a C to C cable. Also, you can hypothetically charge just as fast with USB-A. It's different jack design made out of the same materials.
Model 3 being benchmark lost me in the video. :D Model 3 has nothing to do being a benchmark of quality in EVs. Its a benchmark somewhat in terms of price but nowhere near comfort or sound insulation or overall value. Such a cheapo feeling car.
Kyle is such a pretender. Every moment he's proving he knows nothing while he claims the opposite. He and Sandy Munro are true grifters.
Why shouldn't a Chinese car be fun to drive, Kyle? There must be some good software in their somewhere that does that, right?
Dang, too bad we'll never get this here in the US :(
Never say never - Nio has the U.S. on their plan
@@volkhardzentgraf6484 I'll believe it when I see it, I know would like to as would BYD and more of the Geely arms but with the tariffs I don't know about that. They might also choose not to bring this one as American buyers don't buy many wagons even if they do roll the dice.
Actually there have been chinese brands much earlier than Nio on the german market e.g. MG or Aiways.
And don't forget that on german prices the 19% sales taxes are included (except if you buy good, brooks, newspapers or pet food, than it is 7% included).
Aiways is a joke, Nobody in China buys them.
nio plans to build a thousand battery swap stations in Europe by 2025. Currently there are over 1750 battery swap stations in China and this is the proof that they are able to meet this goal. Through the back in NT3 there will be a charging of 500KW, as of today there are already more than 500 such chargers that are available to the public (not only for nio) nio is building them at a rate of 100 per month.
I especially want to drive or own an EV with the guarantee that battery replacement and service will be available for a long time. I hear that Chinese EV brands excel in very poor service and factory support even in their own home market.
Other manufacturers need to take note of this. The battery swap is the key. Nio should license this out which would enable other manufacturers to fund Nio’s global growth and lease their battery swap stations so they could expand the infrastructure. Being stuck with old tech batteries is a major hurdle why I wont go EV. As battery tech improves with efficiency , which it is, Nio owners will be able to simply lease / buy a new battery. Got a Tesla? you’ll be stuck with what you’ve got and rubbish resale guaranteed.
It really is time to bring these things to the states.
There are adoption issues with all EVs at the moment, starting with the price, reliability, longetivity from ownership perspective, etc.
Because adoption is not wide spread (if they were cheaper that adoption rate would be far better), EV industry is not maturing and developing fast enough to drive the price down... problematic is also used EV car market... no one wants to have "issues" with these...
Future of EVs? Sure, I think it will happen, but may take some time... when? Well, perhaps EVs are good for leasing or renting, but not for owning...
Nio.... Please come to Indonesia chop chop! Why did Nio neglect Indonesia market? Come on Nio...
i love my EC7 from day1, just perfect car and keeps evolving through every software updates.
yes l love my ec6 🎉🎉🎉
I wish the U.S. had more wagons. They are mostly only available as luxury vehicles.
What region of the US are you uou from? I always wondered what part of the US say "Oways" instead of "Always".