X-Men 2: Clone Wars - A Sega Genesis Masterpiece?!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Episode 50 - An in-depth review of the classic 16-bit video game, X-Men 2: Clone Wars. Back in the 80’s and early 90’s, X-Men video games were either subpar or complete garbage, with the exception of the arcade game that was never ported to home consoles. In 1995, Headgames (developer) finally blessed us with a good X-Men home console release. But is this game really that good?! Or is it just the best game in a pile of junk? Let’s find out!
I forgot to mention that this game is 2 players as well, but the experience is terrible. The screen jumps to the movement of both players and it becomes too jarring to look at after a few stages. You’re pretty much always playing catch-up with whomever is in front. Stick with the single player experience
It’s 2 player is WAY better than the first one though. The first one, player 2 could literally fall off the screen. So unless player 2 kept up with player 1, player 2 would get lost.
Since you spent some time on it early on: Retrobit "Big-6" gamepad is legit. It's like both Genesis pads merged into one.
@@la8208 yes, good point!
@@Gametester110-qf8vs I did see that but never got it. It looked pretty cool. Looks like I’m picking up a pair 😂
Indeed it is pretty good
Big reason why i'm still a Sega Kid for life.
Amen 🤘🏻
I'll never forget the time I rented this game, turning it on and having it immediately take you to stage 1 without a title screen. Then I found out that the character you start off with is random. What a great game.
Right? I still remember popping it in and thinking there was something wrong with my cartridge lol
Ohyeah, this game was FANTASTIC. Yeah, it's hard as hell, but that makes beating this game properly after years and years of enjoying this great game through all its replayable, fun bits over and over again that much more rewarding in addition to just how much fun that is to do regardless of whether you beat the game or not.
This game knew it was fundamentally a game, and that it was difficult. It knew you weren't going to beat it on its first few tries, so it made the levels that come before the last point you died fun to replay--blazing through the sentinel level as Wolverinne, for example.
The whole thing is packed with killer content--music, sound design, graphics, etc--I can't think of a better X-Men game than this to this day.
Hell yea, bro! Couldn’t agree more. Well said
the soundtrack has to be top 100 video game soundtracks of all time.
100%. It’s in my top 5 for the Genesis
This game IS awesome. A bunch of my family members played this game, too, and we figured out which characters were best for each stage. We found Gambit was best for the falling boulders level due to his upward attack for the boss and aptitude for taking out those jumping hunchbacks. He was also good for inside the pyramid 'cause those crafty hunchbacks can be annoying.
Wolverine was essential to beat the last "levels" because of how long and difficult they are. Dat regen is the only thing that could get us past that pretty Hellish zone. And we used Cyclops for the final bosses because he was good for killing the giant scorpion and just blasting all the clones from a distance.
A challenging game for sure, but not insurmountable. I beat it when I was a kid, afterall. And when we got to our last life, we'd have player 2 join, so when player 1 dies, you still can continue playing with player 2 and 8(or was it 16?) more lives.
And we did this all without the internet, haha. Ah, simpler (better) times...
Nice! Yea Wolverine was always my go-to for the falling boulder stage. And yes, cyclops and gambit were pretty much very similar with their long range attacks, with cyclops having a much faster mutant attack but weaker punch action vs Gambit’s bo staff. But that’s what I loved about this game… the fact that it has such high replayability where you can use different mutants for a higher challenge.
Beast was my go-to for the scorpion.
Hahaha yes! I forgot about that. Adding a second player when you’re about to die. Classic. Simpler times indeed
What I loved about 90s videogames and cartoons is that they honored the comics, they didn't invent costumes, characters or stories, it was just straight out of the comic pages.
Yea for sure. And the times that they did create something, it was usually great. Like harley quinn in the Batman animated series
Oh man. Memory unlocked.
Haha awesome
Im a first stage legend. That's as far as I could get
Ah come on, man. You never made it to the sentinel factory??
Your cardboard boxes are in pristine condition. Cheers to that.
Haha thanks. I have no idea how they stayed that way too. Had them since childhood.
I beat the game, but I honestly had to cheat codes! But it was a good game. I thought the ending was kind of blah blah blah. I like the ending a lot more in mutant apocalypse. I’m surprised Konami didn’t port the Simpsons arcade game along with the X-Men arcade game that would’ve been a lot better on the genesis
I’ve been saying this for many years. It would’ve be awesome if we got a port of the X-Men and Simpsons arcade games. It probably would’ve been awesome if it was ported on the Sega Saturn or PS1.
For me the later levels could only be done with Wolverine and his healing ability. I had a pattern to play the game with all the other characters earlier in the game though.
Seeing all the amazing Sega Genesis games still coming out today (2024), it was clear that the main limitation of the console wasn’t the lack of onscreen colors, or scratchy voices - it was the cartridge ROM size. This console was the 🐐.
Absolutely! You can tell that just by looking at this game from 1995 vs an early released game like Altered Beast. If you didn’t know any better, you would think they’re a generation apart.
Fantastic game. Big improvement on the first game in every aspect. Ironically the game was living rent free in my head for years. I bought the game a few months ago with a Sega Genesis. Still holds up.
Yup, I completely agree, huge improvement. And that’s awesome that you just picked this up again. I still love it decades later
@@VicariouslyRetro I will say though. We are very spoiled by retro games on modern consoles. The rewind and save function completely changes the game. I forgot how difficult tetto games were and how much they rely on beating them one sit through.
100% man. Honestly I don’t really use the rewind function. It’s like sacrilegious to me lol. I do however, use the save function haha. But yea, we’re spoiled now
@@VicariouslyRetro I agree. It's rare I use rewind features but it depends on the game. But the save feature I think is fair game lol . Especially since game codes were the norm in retro games. Retro games are just a different animal. The challenge was impeded into the games. again this is such an underrated game and great job with the video again! :)
@@icehulk2 yes I agree, fair game due to the older codes. Thanks my man!
I first played this game on Sega Channel (anyone remember that?) and it blew my 9-year-old ass away, especially after years of playing that mediocre original X-Men game on Genesis for years!
Wow you had the Sega Channel?? Damn. High class haha. Yea this game was way ahead of the first X-Men
Having Sega Channel as a kid was awesome! I have so many fond memories of playing great Genesis games like this that I wouldn't have played nearly as much if only renting from the video store.
Some of my friends had Genesis too and owned copies of certain games i could borrow, but having Sega Channel gave my family access to way more games + titles that were often rented out at the video store like Vector Man, and stuff i later learned didn't even get a physical release in North America. Like the squirrel game, Mr. Nutz, which my parents absolutely loved playing 'cause it was a platformer that wasn't too difficult or complicated for them to play lol. It was good for the whole family, 'cause there was always something one of us wanted to play, all these different genres of games, separate sections for "family games" or games aimed at even younger kids my youngest cousins could enjoy when they were over
Ah yes Sega Channel was ahead of the curve
Wish we had physical releases of Alien Wars Mega Man Wily Wars!!
Yep! This is an absolute gem. I had the first XMen on the Genesis as a kid and thought it was awesome. It is not. I can still enjoy it and it's fun just getting to play as the XMen and the story is good but the characters are so weak (though it's still a million times better than XMen on the NES). Clone Wars makes you feel so powerful and is just an outstanding game. I do wish they had a password system but I can use save states these days so no biggie.
I still need to play Clone Wars more. Too often I just play everything as Wolverine and need to get better at using the other mutants (and when I unlock Magneto I need to NOT use him so often though that's an outstanding trick to use him when fighting Apocalypse)
I know other people think XMen Mutant Apocalypse on the SNES is the superior 16 bit XMen game but I disagree. It's pretty good but the characters mostly feel so clunky in that game and I can't stand inputing Street Fighter style commands for the special moves. I'm trying to fight 6 guys and miss my haduken fireball command with Cyclops so now I'm swamped and screwed.
Yup haha. I thought the first one was good too but looking back, it’s so subpar. The NES one is so bad haha. Like completely broken.
Actually you don’t need a password system. There’s a level skip code. Pause the game. Press Left + C, Up, Up, Left, Down, Down, Right, C. If done correctly, you will hear a laser blast. Unpause the game, then pause it again. Hold Right + C to skip the level. Hold Left + C to change characters. This is great because you can start at any level with nine lives.
Def give this game another shot, bro, it’s one of my favorites of all-time!
And yes, mutant apocalypse is an “ok” game to me. Clone Wars blows it out of the water, no questions ask
I had and like both. They are very different in gameplay style.
I also had Wolverine: Adamantium Rage on Sega, and it was not fun. That one the SNES version was a better time.
Never played Adamantium Rage but I heard it’s TERRIBLE lol
@@VicariouslyRetro I was excited to play it when I got it as a birthday gift. But got more and more disapointed the longer I played. 😮💨
The character intro panels were the best part of the game. 😅
@@Dilemina haha damn, I bet. I’ve seen a few videos on it and it looks like garbage. Bummer you got that one for your bday lol
I didn't know this game was so good! Thank you!
No prob!
This soundtrack is amazing!
Dude for real! It’s in my top 5 on the Genesis. So classic
Very glad to hear someone hold as much reverence to the sentinel factory level as I do. This game was always a treat to rent as a kid
Awesome!! Yea man, the Sentinel Factory always hits the part of the brain where the memory is stored the hardest. Such awesome times
Always played Gambit for the Sentinel level and Cyclops for the space station. Everything else was a toss up :D
Haha I hear ya! I always loved using Wolverine for the Sentinel level mainly because his main attack allowed to him to jump to the next platform while attacking. But that’s why I love this game… different strategies for different mutants
The 1st Genesis game I bought with my money. Graphics were very impressive. I remember I beat the game more or less easily as Cyclops.
Money well spent! Yea Cyclops would mop the floor at long distance. Most underrated mutant in the game
I love that Gunstar Heroes music at the end there
Haha love it when people recognize this
absolute monster of a game, I'll never forget getting this as a kid (still have it & play it semi-regularly too) - legitimately one of *the* best Sega Genesis games in existence, criminally underrated imo - great video, you showed it the respect it deserves lol
Thanks, bro! And same, I still remember getting this as kid too. Hell of an experience
Decades later its so hard to figure out which of the X Men titles I grew up loving, I think there was a banger on game gear, and maybe even a few arcade games that never got fully ported, but this was definitely one of the MVPs. I remember how amazing I thought the climbing system was when this came out.
Yea the X-Men arcade game was so freaking good. Def the best X-Men game ever. The 4 player action was so classic, and especially the rare 6-player in the deluxe cabinet. God… imagine having the 6 player cabinet in your basement today? Heaven haha
@VicariouslyRetro im just hoping it all comes to steam. With their attempt to reboot the animation, it seems like a rerelease would pull in quite a chunk of change.
I'll see if I can't track down emulations of those arcade titles.
Oh also props for using the victory fanfare from Gunstar Heroes as an outro. That title was another childhood definer.
Yea it makes perfect sense for them to release it now with the reboot. Haha and thank you for noticing the Gunstar Heroes Stage Clear music 🤘🏻 love it when people recognize it. One of my all-time favs
That glory hole reference was…….a choice. I would reset the first level over and over just to get Gambit. He and Nightcrawler are my favorites, but Gambit theme was bad ass!
Hahaha. Yea Gambit was a lot of fun to play as
Now let's not pretend for a second that the game that came before this is actually amazing too. Still have a physical to this day, one of my all-time most played games as a child. And a few very memorable songs on the soundtrack as well!
Yea I’m not the biggest fan of the first game. I was always all about the second one
One of those dither-heave games that looks much better on real hardware and a CRT.
The one thing that IMO keeps it from being the ultimate X-Men game is that there's no multiplayer, so you don't really get that "team feeling".
Yea true, it did look great on a CRT. It’s funny you said that about the multiplayer because I forgot to mention it. This game is actually two players, but the experience is absolutely terrible. The screen moves to both the players movements and the screen is constantly moving/shaking. It’s very jarring. It’s not like the OG Contra on the NES
@@VicariouslyRetro That's funny, I don't remember there being multiplayer. I can see how it wouldn't work well though, with how big the characters are.
I could imagine it with a _slightly_ more zoomed-out view though, although you would lose some of that comic book _presence._
Yea I tried it a few times with my brother and it was terrible. I never got footage from it but look it up on RUclips. It’s so choppy. Makes you dizzy
I swear I was the only one who had this game or heard of it, right next to Shadowman
Did you mean Shadowrun? And yea, not many people played X-Men 2 back in the day. It was a late release (1995)
The difficulty was perfect, not too hard, rewarding and beatable as a kid
Couldn’t agree more
Wow, talk about synchronicity. I was just playing this game yesterday and the control thing is spot on. I was playing it on my analogue pocket and was ripping through the first few levels. I wanted to play it on the big screen, so I switched to my mister with Bluetooth controllers. The game felt clunky. I wonder if anyone played this for the first time with that kind of input lag they might think the game is bad. This game has some hit box and camera jank, but once you get the rhythm of it down it plays pretty good.
Haha wow, synchronicity indeed. Yea it’s crazy how much different it felt with the wireless controller. I couldn’t believe it. And yes, that’s why I always tell people to give it some time before you give up on it after a few tries
This is the best xmen game. I had it on my sega as a kid, and I have it now on my Vita, and if it gets too hard for you, there is a cheat for 99 lives. Makes the game funner. You don't have stress about lives. When I was a kid, I could only make it to the swamp portion and then start the game all over again
I agree, it’s the best! Haha I would always grind through it as a kid and would always die on the last level. I didn’t beat the game until later on in my 20’s when I got back into gaming
Don’t mind me. Just passing thru to drop a like on any vid praising my fave Genesis game👍🏽
Carry on.
Haha thanks, man!
I enjoyed the game up till you beat Apocalypse. After that the levels just start getting way too long and huge. You basically have use Wolverine to survive because you need a character who climbs, and he heals to last thru these lengthy stages. If you play with two players, both of you need pick characters that can climb walls so Nightcrawler is the next best pick. He does move faster. It's beatable, but I find the end areas just over stay their welcome and are far less fun than the first half of the game.
Yea the last two levels are a doozy. Took me a long time to beat them. I was never a fan of the two-player mode
Try connecting the Bluetooth controller via USB-C. Big difference as well.
Yea for sure, thanks. I also started using the 2.4 GHz which is way better with the input lag.
Dude! Yes! I was playing through this again last winter, and I went through the same thing. Like why am I not hitting stuff right? I mainly noticed it when using Cyclops. But once I plugged in my wired controller it all came back. The music is incredible too. I discovered there was an Enhanced soundtrack release through Sega Tunes. Which was a series of cds they released of the original music the composers made before converting it to the Genesis. Definitely worth checking out if you can find it.
Right?? It makes such a huge difference. Glad I’m not alone in this haha. I love this soundtrack so much, it’s in my top 5 on the Genesis.
Oh damn, I didn’t know that about Sega Tunes. That’s wild. I’ll def check it out, thanks, man! Learn something knew everyday
I loved this game as a kid and the ost is so good.
Truth!
This is a good game, no shame starting it with the extra lives codes until you get the hang of the stages and try to complete it without any cheats.
For sure
My favorite still is X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse
Yea I can understand that. I do like Mutant Apocalypse, but I just love this game so much more
I had no idea any of these games exist. Than again, my mother did toss my Sega Genesis down the garbage chute in a fit of rage a couple of years after we got it, so I did kinda drop out of keeping up with the latest at the time.
Oh man, that sucks! Sorry to hear that. You missed out on a lot of great gems. Never too late to revisit them though!
@@VicariouslyRetro Yeah, I hope to catchup someday
Great game but I miss the helpers and cameos of other X-men like from the first game
Haha yea I remember those. Like in streets of rage 1 with the cop car bazooka
Great review! Great game! A little bit too hard like that ridiculous stage we keep falling down into the water that’s just plain ridiculous and the water keeps rising? There’s like no way you’re being stay without using cheat codes in my opinion or a game, pro or something I’ll let you know which character to pick! Magneto is also the best character for the free falling segments because he can fly and avoiding laser beams. The kids who had a super Nintendo had just as much fun if not a little bit more fun with you at the apocalypse in my opinion! I also really really like the ending from you and apocalypse. The music is so chill.
It was a great time to be alive in the shed got sonic two or another kid got donkey Kong country, They both had so much fun. There really wasn’t a clear winner in my opinion.
Thank you! Haha I swear to God, I did not use cheat codes for the gameplay footage. I’ve been playing this game since I was 10 years old. I am aware of the cheat codes though and the only one that’s really useful in my opinion is the stage skip. It’s pretty much like a password system where you can start off on any level instead of the beginning. The invincibility code is kind of stupid because it defeats the purpose of playing a video game. I was never a fan of those type of codes.
I’ll have to try that level out with Magneto, thanks!
And yes, I agree, there was no clear cut winner because each console had amazing games of their own. I do like mutant apocalypse, but I must say I like Clone Wars better.
Do more of these pls mate. I’d love to see your take on Maximum Carnage etc. The script was 👌. Keep grinding!
Oh good pick… had that game growing up. And thanks, will do, appreciate it 🤘🏻
From the very start of the game, yes. Best game on the Genesis.
It’s def in my top 15. NHL ‘94 is my favorite Genesis game of all time
Mutant Apocalypse on SNES is better.
I would say I slightly prefer the graphics for this Sega game, but most of the rest is better.
Ahhh I’m going to have to disagree. I’m not saying Mutant Apocalypse is a bad game, but I enjoyed this game much more
Everything u said about this game is all 100 percent true 👍🏾👍🏾
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It really is interesting how much of a difference using proper wired controllers on these old games makes. I honestly don't think modern gamers realise the sacrifice we're making in order to play everything wireless these days. I mean, it's not a huge difference to the point that playing all games these days feels like unresponsive crap or anything like that, but there is a very real difference, which I think is especially evident when playing old-school style 2D games that often ask more of a players reflexes and more precision. Definitely a thing.
PS. Your enthusiasm over this game makes me wish there was a SNES version now. I mean, Mutant Apocalypse on SNES looks nicer for the most part imo, but the gameplay here looks like it might be more fast-paced and fun. So, yeah, a SNES version could have been very cool.
Yea it’s crazy how much more responsive and accurate it was. Those split timing jump attacks were very very hard to execute on the wireless ones. And I have the 2.4 GHz which have less input lag than the bluetooth ones. And like you said, it’s not a big deal for a lot of games, but there are a decent amount of 2d games that put way more weight on your reflexes and precision.
And yes, Mutant apocalypse is a great looking game, but I just love this game’s gameplay so much more. It has a lot of run n gun moments for a platformer. It’s just a lot of fun
X-Men mutant apocalypse looks nicer? It's letterboxed and cropped, not to mention stretched.
You're delusional 🤪
@@Retro_Troll yea I’ve played both and X-men 2: Clone Wars looks way better imo. Much smoother too. But with that said, it’s also one of the best looking games on the Genesis.
I do think mutant apocalypse looks good, but this game looks much better.
How can you say mutant apocalypse looks nicer, when the screen is letterboxed?
Been playing games since Atari. Cord controllers are good. But since the PS3, I haven't had a single issue with wireless. In fact, I'd argue wireless is better.
One of my favorite games ever. I probably put more hours on it than any other I own. Just a fun time. I used to put one Game Genie code in though that allowed Wolverine to completely heal. I figured if it was in the comic, it was fair. Also have you ever heard the SEGA Tunes version of the soundtrack? It is very good!
Hahaha dude that’s awesome, I never heard of that code. Then again, I never had a game genie. Someone just mentioned about the Sega tunes version. I gotta check it out
I prefer the side scrolling beat em up for SNES by Capcom
I hear ya, man. I do like that game. I just prefer this one much more.
My favorites were Gambit and Nightcrawler. The former has cool looks, and the latter can climb on almost every walls.
The problem is, some level require some specific charas to finish. Like the Beast was used to fight a caped boss who could destroy the entire floor or else I had to fight him from walls instead.
Still on walls level, I had to pick Nightcrawler to travel through safely to the end of level as there was some guy who flew on the background who could kill me with just one or two shots.
Fighting Apocalypse boss, I had to use Magneto to fly as he's the only char who could deal damage safely.
The Minotaur boss was the most annoying one because he just charged on me regardless any posts I landed so I had to use Gambit to beat him from below.
I'm hoping this game get released in ps4
That would be dope. I’m hoping for the switch on my end
My childhood...
Same. And loling at your name
Dangggg as a kid i skipped this one since i was so burnt by the first game heh
Haha oh man. It’s never too late!
I own xmen 2 clone wars great game id rate an 8 outta 10. I beat this game not too long ago
I’d give it a 9 but I respect that 8. And nice, beating this is a solid accomplishment
@@VicariouslyRetro yes.indeed. xmen 2 clone wars should be in a every retro gamers collection feel
@@danielsantana540 agreed 🤝
good game, not better than the original x-men on genesis
I liked this game much better than the original. To each his own though
I had the opportunity to play this, the first x-men game on the genesis, and mutant apocalypse on SNES. I'd argue that mutant apocalypse is the best 16-bit x men game to have ever been made. Although capcom made that one, so there may be a bit of bias in that statement.
The game is awesome until you want to play with a friend... the camera panning is awful in coop and leads to unavoidable hits lol
Yup! I pinned my comment cause I forgot to mention how terrible the multiplayer is. It’s so jarring and you get dizzy after 2 stages. I tried it twice with my bro and sister and never tried it again lol
As much as i love it. Its level layout and platforming is repetitive. I prefer the firsts level design. But clone wars feels plays and looks better
That’s a fair statement
This game was phenomenal.
Amen, bro!
clone wars was a dope game
Truth!
Was way better than X-men 1. Used Nightcralwer to walk through the entire game.. So OP in maneuverability and invincibility frames during vanish/teleport.
I don’t know, mutant apocalypse was pretty great as well.
1:59 good job, lmao
Haha 🫡
Omg bro 😂, mentos just earned you a sub!
Haha 👌🏻
So many sex references/ jokes . You fiend.
Subscribe
Lol 🤝
Best x men game ever
Amen 🤘🏻
I haven’t seen your vids, I haven’t even watched this video I’m commenting on. But just the title made me like subscribe and obviously comment on this video. So what I’m saying is you have my attention.
Now it’s time to see how this video(and other videos come out)
Haha what was the verdict?
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Bravo
BRAVO!
Great review and I’m not just saying that because I loved the game growing up. Not just saying it because I’m glad it’s in my collection. The review from beginning to the end was great. Loved the humor, loved the few shots of you deciding what game, and the gameplay and the fact that you realized the control matters and the fact you gave us a run down of each character. Dude. Great job. I think a few more shots of you mixed with the gameplay. Or shots of anything else other then gameplay(may I suggest vintage commercials or old magazine pages).
You give me the AVGN vibes but updated and not just angry for the sake of being angry. So yeah. I’m looking forward to watching more of your backlog.
I’ll comment as I go. Great job again.
Thanks a lot for the feedback. I appreciate it!
Surprisingly fun.
For sure
It’s a great game, but honestly gun star heroes or Batman. The animated series is a much much much better than even my opinions on a scale of one to 10 I realistically give the this skin eight.
Oh man, Gunstar Heroes is one of my all-time favorites… and yes, the adventures of Batman and Robin is amazing as well. Those games are so goddamn good. I agree, I would rank those games higher than X-men 2: Clones Wars 👍🏻
To be fair those games are side scrolling shooters sure I love them too
This is an action game where learning the levels is key to success
Gunstar Heroes we shoot everything in sight an dodge best we can
Adventures of Batman&Robin is more shmup than anything and I love how tough it is, boss battles are great too
Comix Zone now why havent we ever got a sequel?? Sketch Turner&Roadkill deserve more games haha
Got my Switch Genesis controller gettin it done
Haha hey whatever works. I was so used to the zero lag wired controller as a kid that using a 2.4 GHz seems slightly off
I was out at "ball rub above the sweat pants". Thought this was about games.
Wahhhh
Omgoodness i had this and forgot lol😅
Haha time to play it again!
3:29 a girls drawer...
Haha used to match our old carpet. Still pulls out though 👌🏻
This game was awesome! Definitely difficult.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this review
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Yes
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😮😮😮😮😮😮😮looooveddd thisss game
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Way better the x-men 1
Yup, 100%
Reset the computer
The SNES IS WAY BETTER
They’re different games, really. The SNES is a slow beat ‘em up and this is a fast-paced action platformer. I do enjoy Mutant Apocalypse, but I will always prefer this one.
Great review I'll have to subscribe and check out some more. And I'm definitely going to have to pick this game up
Thanks! 🤘🏻