People need to stop treating these talking heads like they are the gods of gaming. Their influence has been nothing but a disaster for the community as a whole.
I don't even get why people listen to them with such high regard , they're not saying anything deep that other gamers don't already know , they just mumble unnecessarily about the obvious at a snails pace lol.
💯❗ Whenever they talk about Playstation I ignore about 90% of what they say cuz you can tell they have no passion for console gaming and they only cover it because its popular.
Richard has connections with Microsoft since the Sega days. He was the chief editor of UK Sega's magazine, and Xbox is basically the continuation of Sega of America, a lot of the same people work there.
you people are toxic asf. why defend a company? whether its sony, microsoft or nintendo, these companies are not your friends they are here just for money and please respect everyones opinion.
Digital Foundry should just watch rendered CGI movies, because they clearly don't give a shit about the games themselves. A very slightly off-shadow in the background RUINS their ENTIRE game experience.
@@xOriginalGamerOG76x The summation of EVERY PC gamer who acts elitist. They think, because they cobbled together some “Frankenstein” BS PC rig using readily-available off-the-shelf components, that not only are they SMARTER than Mark Cerny and the entire hardware R&D team, they think they’re BETTER engineers and technicians than them, TOO. Pure delusional NARCISSISM.
The people from DF needs to understand that some peole only play on consoles and want play PlayStation exclusives at higher resolution and framerate. What's so hard to understand in that?
@@zombl337og Where did you get 1080p 30fps from? The new gen consoles can do 1080p 120fps easily and 60fps on 2k which I might be wrong on that. 30fps on 4k is no joke and they are trying to make it to were playing at higher graphics will not mess with the frame rate that most people want. I don't see PC doing that or having games made with the same level of quality or performance or even utilizing the full power of all the PC parts out there. There is a reason for that you know. Too many parts to work with and having them all mixed together on all these different PC's is too much work.
@@zombl337ogI use the PC to play simulations like beam NG and heavily modded games, other than that why bother with the PC? Regular games are optimized for consoles. Also, with consoles I get phyiscal games.
@@kirito_4kirigaya944 dude ps5 run ff7 rebirth at below 1080p in performance mode. also a 4060, a 300 dollar graphic card smoke a ps5 and xsx in performance mode. pc can do way better than consoles period. i run god of war ragnorok at 200 fps at 1440p
A 4070 is 599! 2 tb ssd is 160, ryzen 7 3800 is $189 your looking at 1000$ atleast thats not including power supply fans etc 1200pc to make a pro slightly more powerful
Except for the fact if you spend extra you can make the PC more powerful then the Pro but at end of the PC gaming will always be superior then console gaming if you fully deck out your PC and plus you can download mods that fix bugs in games that developers are to lazy fix AKA Bugeseda with FO4 and Skyrim and and to enhance game play.
@@joeyreidelbach5509 That's like driving a Bugatti in the city. What's the point of spending thousands on a gaming machine that's not getting new games until later???
I've been anti-IGN and anti-DF for a while especially after IGN bought out Eurogamer, the parent company to DF. It's gotten to the point that I'll downvote a lot of folks' submissions in the PS5 subreddit that features them. They've been dishonest af for the last few months and they'll remain an unreliable source for information until they show more consistent unbiased analyses and they can get rid of personnel like Ryan (IGN) and Alex (DF).
IGN has historicaly been biased towards PC platform and Xbox since the 360... So if they bought Eurogamer and by relation DF, then they're the same crap now.
I don't know if you remember but years ago I replied in a comment section on one of your videos about digital foundry admitting to being sponsored by Microsoft. It was likely before they where brought by the company that's now a part of ign. That in itself tells you why they have such slanted views on playstation v xbox.
Digital Foundry has been Xbox fanboys this whole generation, they always find a way of damage controlling anything negative about Xbox but quick to try find anything negative about playstation and ignore the positives.
Wuat broke the camel's back for me was them giving credit to the Wukong "money hatting" rumors circulated by Xbox exceutives. That's straight up disinformation, they would have normally denounced it if it were coming from amy other direction than Xbox exceutives. And I think I know why they are so close to Xbox. Richard was the chief editor of the UK Sega Saturn magazine back in the days. When Microsoft entered in the console market it kind of usurped Sega, they took on board most of the western Sega staff. He must have kept conncetions with the former Sega/current Microsoft corporate structure.
i can direct to videos where many times they talk good about ps5 vs xbox sx. some games run better on ps5 and some better on xsx. but games like warhammer 4k sm2 and dd2 where high intense cpu workload is required, the xsx performs better. yet again even budget cards do better than xsx.
@@kaisersoymilk6912 they talked about the rumor but never gave credit to it. They acknowledge that they surely have some difficulty going from UE4 to 5 mid development
@@gillleehahn7451 they were always bad dumbo 😂. Once in a blue moon they tell the obvious . They still haven’t figured out why PS5 base model is able to beat series X and that should tell you everything from day 1😂🫵
@@Weezard57but people going to still be playing those games someone said we Americans we should be playing Xbox and not PlayStation 😂 saying I don't speak their language
I saw this video on the PS5 Pro from DF and once again someone convincing console gamers to buy a PC like nothing about PC would make me get one like why would I want to play with hackers and modders weird turning The Sims 4 to an adult rated game with mods or making Jill nude in RE3. 🤦🏾♂️
The people that saying just build a PC don't even know how to build a PC this he bought a PC for 3.2K dollars but shitting on the PlayStation have that's only 700 dollars and besides the majority of people are just going to trade their PS5s in I'm not because I need 2 PS5 anyways I was already planning to get another one anyways
@@Nomadickiller you know nothing. most pc gamers dont have 4090 gpus..or even 4080s. thats mostly people with a lot of money or streamers who just want the best. I build pcs ranging from 300-1000 dollars. i only build 1500 plus pcs on rare ocasions. i can even show you a 700 dollar pc build now: CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $89.99 Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $103.39 Memory Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $28.97 Storage Klevv CRAS C710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Klevv CRAS C710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $52.99 Video Card Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card $284.97 Case Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 Power Supply Apevia Prestige 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply Apevia Prestige 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $51.99 Total: $672.29
You should see how Maximillian Dood feels and looks uncomfortable talking about the PS5 Pro!!! Hes having to now sort of be careful of how he talks..... hes telling everybody NOT to buy the Pro unless theyre a streamer obsessed with FF Rebirth LOL!!!! SOOOOOO IF the Pro PS5 is unexpectedly successful ITS ALL BECAUSE OF STREAMERS LIKE MAX DOOD
why is Maximillian Dood talking shit about the pro when he fighting game guy but im seeing more and more people who one thing talking about the pro but has no videos on not to get the xbox and just get a PC
I love the production value. We have to remember they are human beings, easily swayed and the same can be said for most of us. Keep speaking your truth - you always give me something to think about.
Do you notice whenever they talk about Xbox its all serious talk ,some kinda bug when its behind the Playstation. Then when its only talk about Playstation they snicker and smurk the whole video 🤔
Hey Thrash, Microsoft used basic minds to slap together basic parts to add power, because they see it on paper and think power equals better...meanwhile Sony has an actual genius who sees everything outside the box, revolutionized their tech rather than just using something with more power and nothing else, and turns the "on paper" look of consoles into something completely different. Analysis channels still looking at tech based on how it's always been, but Sony has developed tech that leaves them behind because it's on a new level no one has reached yet. They don't understand the genius of Sony or Cerny whatsoever. They need to get on the ball and incorporate Sony tech as it's own thing and just show how it beats everything...for cheaper. Good video. Peace Brother, DWYD!
This video is really important and I believe attention should be beought to this. To correct this qould be difficult they would have to hire someone thats gotvthr technical understanding and loves intricate details of PCs but equally plays on PlayStation so they arent biased against PlayStation in the analysis. Moore's Law is dead recently discussed with Colin Moriarity on his extra patreon podcast that the CPU is NOT limiting the PS5 (unlike that all thr PCMR people including Digital Foundry have said) the limiting factor to 60FPS is the GPU and the Pro fixes that probablem ao it WILL be possible for the PS5 Pro to run games in Fidelity Mode Level Graphics at 60FPS
They are eurogamer , EURO , they doing such a great job promoting Xbox that PlayStation outsells it 5 to 1 in EYROPE , lol . They lies doesn’t do shit to market , people can sense bullshit
I’ll NEVER FORGET that time they were searching to give Xbox a “W” SO BAD that they had to point out, “OMFGz, Control runs at an uncapped framerate!!!! ….In photo mode.” 😂
IGN NOW own DF and MOST if not ALL of the gaming outlets from what i understand!!! Not good if there is no countering voice opposing voice! I always hated IGN and the gregs and the colins that came from US outlets i preferred UK media at that time! Oli Welsh there was outted for pushing some female agenda around that time and has stepped down from Eurogamer.... that was around the time of Days Gone i think and how Days Gone was accused of men blah blah blah havent been to Eurogamer in yrs now as legacy media has disappeared..... websites etc... yeah IGN has never been apart of my diet ever they were sexist back in the 90s and 2000s
@@leoSaunders I don’t think that’s necessarily true, either. DF was a subsidiary under Eurogamer (I think) so while they may still retain SOME DEGREE OF INDEPENDENCE from Eurogamer, that also doesn’t mean that IGN doesn’t now own a decent portion of them. Kinda like how PlayStation has like a 20-40% large minority stake in From Software (or how people “fearmonger” about Tencent because they pretty much have their tendrils into EVERYONE in the gaming space with varying portions and percentages of large minority shares). TL; DR - you can still “have a say” in how something is “directed” without outright owning it. There’s A REASON why “corporate structuring” with things like number of seats and voting power on these “boards of majority shareholders” EXIST.
PS5 Pro is clearly better than the PS5. Having said that, $700 + removable disk drive @ $120 + plastic stand @$30 is a joke and a F U to their customers. I guess somebody gotta pay for Concord.
I will never forget tht one video they did on the 400% zoom in for some pixel count or whtever on a game yet they choose not to catch this stuff is astounding lmfaooo
When he’s talking about Alan wake load time he says “Spider-Man 2 it is not” He saying Alan wake 2 doesn’t load nearly as fast as Spider-Man 2. Just wanted to clear that up.
I’ve noticed them favoring Xbox & highlighting everything they can but with PS, it’s “ahh whatever”. Eventually ima get a pro but only when on sale or with the disc drive included. I need a tv with hdmi 2.1 tho
Don't think this critique is fair throughout. There were some flawed comparisons by DF, the Control ray tracing example makes it clear, but then bringing up the fact that a guy was hyped in the beginning of a dedicated Forza video--compared to a snippet from a podcast that talked about Gran Turismo (not a dedicated PS5 pro video yet)--isn't fair. DF is clearly incentivized to be positive to games, but they also criticize bad performance or blurry resolutions. Alex is a PC guy and he's right, PS5 Pro won't actually run you path traced Cyberpunk (at best, you'd get a highly optimized 30fps ray tracing focused mode) or be able to max out some games that are CPU limited.
Where did Sony say the pro would run path ray Tracing??? Hell most PCs can't. Why would any sane person think that it would? Most console gamers are 100% good with 60 frames and higher resolution.
PC hardware can barely handle ray tracing with the latest games. Path tracing not happening yet. I’m rocking a 5800x3d and a 7900xtx and a PS5. I use both pretty equally. PS5 is nice for chilling on the couch with great gaming and no issues.
Digital foundry why dind compare rtx 2080 ti vs series x and compared ps5 vs 2070 super Since according to digital foundry said series x have gpu equal to 2080 ti
I havent watched digital foundary in years. I took a step back from all these so called news channels, and concentrated on solely gaming and its been so much more peaceful. Playing and enjoying games instead of watching beta males push wokeness
One of the biggest pros for PC is backwards compatibility and future proofing. My library of games goes with me every generation. No gimmicks to play them. New games, old games on one platform…..the PC. Hell will freeze over once yall see Nintendo tease out PC releases of their games. Both console and PC need to exist together however.
They’re raving about the PS5 Pro and PSSR, and you’re all here hating. Like you’re some tech guru yourself. I don’t even know why you’d have an agenda that is against them to begin with, but I can take a stab in the dark and guess that you’re overly excited about the prospect of a Pro version of PS5 before it has even launched.
It's all good Thrash, cuz it's all fun and games till they go and find out how much those graphics cards cost not to mention everything else they'll have to buy even before the graphics card purchase.
Facts. DF will be out of work once AI up scaling solves resolution issues. AI will soon be able to just fill in the blanks so well, nobody will know the difference. Definitely not DF. The better DLSS, PSSR is getting the more DF has to zoom in to bullshit about things nobody even notices.
Yooo...Msoft may have planned their games coming to Lord Playstation many years ago and to have them running or looking better. I will expound a lil bit later.
The PS5 in general is just a powerful console and the only machine pushing gaming forward heck The OG PS5 is still a beast. Now imagine The Pro version of this monster. Man getting ready for a lot of tears from Xbox/PC dudes LOL
digital foundry is so full of shit. imagine believing the highest spec console on the market is of no value. like base ps4 users wouldn't benefit hugely from the massive upgrade the pro provides??? they think they are smarter than everyone but gamers just want the best and the ps5 pro is IT
It's amazing to me how Digital Foundry manages to be a lightning rod for console warrior hate. They've attracted the ire of a cohort of fans from each console. Xbox fans think they're biased against Xbox because they supposedly gloss over the same issues on Playstation that they tear into on Xbox. Playstation fans think they're biased against Playstation because they've been critical of the Playstation 5 Pro. Nintendo fans think they're biased against Nintendo because they temper their expectations about the power of the Switch 2. The ire over how they've covered the PS5 Pro is also funny because they're basically the only high profile people going to bat for the improvements offered by the Pro.
Alex is just a pc fan boy he really shouldn't be in the conversation regarding consoles. I have a 4070s pc with a top end cpu and I would not say gaming on it is superior to my base ps5 in any way. Gaming on windows just isn't nearly as consistent as I want and spend alot of time fiddling and trouble shooting and unless I'm pixel peeping the games look identical. I have a steam deck so I always buy Playstation ports on steam, and not one of those ports are in any way better on my pc than my ps5. Then I have hogwarts legacy and dead space remake which have traversal studder that's annoying af I ended up buying it on ps5 anyway. Pc gaming definitely has a space but this stigma that it's superior to console gaming by dumping more money into it isn't true. The ps5 pro will be a great console for those looking for the best console experience and I would never tell someone to buy an 800 dollar crappy pc over a pro. My pc was 1700 total and theres hardly a noticeable difference, beside the hours spent dealing with windows crap, display issues, hdr issues, and all the trademark pc headaches.
So I can get a PS5 Pro and a decent 4K television brand new for the same price as the GPU he's recommending LOL a good monitor these days cost as much as a couple of ps5s
If gamers want to build a pc they will i hate this just build a pc nonsense...maybe we don't want to ...have yall ever thought of that? Or is that like a foreign concept...I hate these pc/xbox trying to talk gamers out of buying a pro ...I'll never talk about pc dude out of building a pc dwyd ...why are they so threatened ?
Great Video! 👍 DF are just ordinary RUclipsrs, I don't know how it happened that suddenly everyone started treating them like an oracle. They are ordinary enthusiasts who think they know something. In reality they are fucking liars 😂which I also proved on my channel in the "Ponies Foundry" series
To be fair tho making upscalers like pssr, dlss etc, the default is definently not a good thing, because you will end up with developers abusing them as a clutch for "easy performance", instead of making sure it runs at an acceptable level beforehand. This is already visible in current gen games and will get much worse. 1080p or less upscaled to 4k looks always terrible period, no matter what u use. It has gotten so bad that a 4070 (600 - 700$) is a 1080p 60fps card now...
It's will still be the best experience for GTA-6 especially if RockStar and Sony have some agreement/Contract? I'm more curious on how long it will be before PC gets a GTA-6 port 2 or 3yrs?? I think pc had to wait 2yrs for GTA-5.😂
These digital foundry guy are soo bias to Sony Microsoft must be paying them good this is straight bullshit big up to king thrash for calling them out on there bs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Where is your video about the 400 mil mistake by Sony? No wonder they'll overcharge and rip off for the Pro because they need to recoup that lost money
You're still salty because Microsoft is still trying to recover from a $100 billion+ failure. Sony will be fine. Xbox will be a thumb drive this time next year.
Base PS5 was already consistently winning on framerate. Alex is an astroturfer with dogwater taste in games always shilling for Nvidia, Ubisoft and whatever eurojank developers out there.
i stopped trusting in there tech knowledge when they said series x with 2 more tflops will destroy ps5 and ran with it until ps5 came out and showed them how dumb and wrong they were just like now we need to wait for ps5 pro to come out so we can laugh at DF again and show them the mirror
Think my breaking point was when saying halo infinite only looked bad as it was in shadow while showing fully sun lit scenes in same footage , tried to take us for idiots
DF is like Alex, Dealer, Rand, Zalker, Colt, even RGT 85 in a sense. At least when white ppl lie on products they're doing it for gain, views and money. The black idiot Xtards, 0ylike Parris and the Hispanic Xtards, like Crazy Lui don't have a big presence online.
@@Pointman11111 no they just speculating that GTA 6 will run at 30 fps on the pro with no evidence just pure "what they think" and allowed news outlets to run with it like it's a fact
People need to stop treating these talking heads like they are the gods of gaming. Their influence has been nothing but a disaster for the community as a whole.
I don't even get why people listen to them with such high regard , they're not saying anything deep that other gamers don't already know , they just mumble unnecessarily about the obvious at a snails pace lol.
@@fawkkyutuu8851they’re also a bunch of grumpy old men
@@houragents5490 y'all seen Destin? That dude look like a Zombie version of Brock Lesnar daughter, he's look hurt
@@fawkkyutuu8851"Bespoke resolution"
... Remarkable.
Are you talking about king trash? Fitd the description
No problems in "recommending" $1K - $3K graphics cards/PCs but the PS5 Pro is the devil.
@@jinkazama7587 700 dollar pc to match PS5 pro easy
@@gillleehahn7451bollocks
The 4070 is not 1k dollars, not even close. And that is better than the ps5 pro's gpu, has all the same features but more raw power.
@@AaronWOfficial yeah these console gamers think building a gaming PC is so expensive and complicated
@@AaronWOfficial and its costs over half of what the ps5 pro is...
PS5 Pro is gonna run photo mode better in control than Series X 😂
Lol u a fool
This guy from df always has bad takes, he is a PC guy that is forced to do analysis on PS and Xbox, but leans toward Xbox cause they do day and date
No, it's biased because Playstation didn't give them a PS5 Xbox and they want to keep that friendship alive
💯❗ Whenever they talk about Playstation I ignore about 90% of what they say cuz you can tell they have no passion for console gaming and they only cover it because its popular.
@@magfam9980 he not a guy bruh dude that other stuff stuff
Richard has connections with Microsoft since the Sega days. He was the chief editor of UK Sega's magazine, and Xbox is basically the continuation of Sega of America, a lot of the same people work there.
you people are toxic asf. why defend a company? whether its sony, microsoft or nintendo, these companies are not your friends they are here just for money and please respect everyones opinion.
Digital Foundry should just watch rendered CGI movies, because they clearly don't give a shit about the games themselves. A very slightly off-shadow in the background RUINS their ENTIRE game experience.
Lol
They definitely don’t play games
I’m always laughing when they talk about shadows
Digital foundry is one of the WORST things to happen to gaming.
Facts
Wow these guys really think they’re smarter than Mr cerny😂😂😂
The Dunning -Kruger effect.
@@xOriginalGamerOG76x
The summation of EVERY PC gamer who acts elitist.
They think, because they cobbled together some “Frankenstein” BS PC rig using readily-available off-the-shelf components, that not only are they SMARTER than Mark Cerny and the entire hardware R&D team, they think they’re BETTER engineers and technicians than them, TOO.
Pure delusional NARCISSISM.
Damage control foundry
The people from DF needs to understand that some peole only play on consoles and want play PlayStation exclusives at higher resolution and framerate. What's so hard to understand in that?
then get a PC if you want higher res and frames. 1080p 30fps is not HIGH TECH
@@zombl337og Where did you get 1080p 30fps from? The new gen consoles can do 1080p 120fps easily and 60fps on 2k which I might be wrong on that. 30fps on 4k is no joke and they are trying to make it to were playing at higher graphics will not mess with the frame rate that most people want. I don't see PC doing that or having games made with the same level of quality or performance or even utilizing the full power of all the PC parts out there. There is a reason for that you know. Too many parts to work with and having them all mixed together on all these different PC's is too much work.
@@zombl337ogI use the PC to play simulations like beam NG and heavily modded games, other than that why bother with the PC? Regular games are optimized for consoles.
Also, with consoles I get phyiscal games.
@@kirito_4kirigaya944 dude ps5 run ff7 rebirth at below 1080p in performance mode. also a 4060, a 300 dollar graphic card smoke a ps5 and xsx in performance mode. pc can do way better than consoles period. i run god of war ragnorok at 200 fps at 1440p
@@kirito_4kirigaya944 "1080p 120fps easily and 60fps on 2k" lol 😅 1080p and 2k hm? well...
A 4070 is 599! 2 tb ssd is 160, ryzen 7 3800 is $189 your looking at 1000$ atleast thats not including power supply fans etc 1200pc to make a pro slightly more powerful
Just to not get games day one like GTA 6 😂😂😂
Except for the fact if you spend extra you can make the PC more powerful then the Pro but at end of the PC gaming will always be superior then console gaming if you fully deck out your PC and plus you can download mods that fix bugs in games that developers are to lazy fix AKA Bugeseda with FO4 and Skyrim and and to enhance game play.
@@ericfranklin3506Don't worry you guys will beta test it.
Don’t forget the power supply, case, monitor and mouse & keyboard…
@@joeyreidelbach5509 That's like driving a Bugatti in the city. What's the point of spending thousands on a gaming machine that's not getting new games until later???
I cannot stand DF...I don't know why people hold them to this high standard.
nobody in the pc space do. its you console fanboys. the moment they say something bad about sony now all of a sudden they not good enough anymore.
Digital Foundary will be folded into IGN and NXGamer probably XD
I've been anti-IGN and anti-DF for a while especially after IGN bought out Eurogamer, the parent company to DF. It's gotten to the point that I'll downvote a lot of folks' submissions in the PS5 subreddit that features them. They've been dishonest af for the last few months and they'll remain an unreliable source for information until they show more consistent unbiased analyses and they can get rid of personnel like Ryan (IGN) and Alex (DF).
IGN has historicaly been biased towards PC platform and Xbox since the 360...
So if they bought Eurogamer and by relation DF, then they're the same crap now.
DIGITAL EXCUSES
I don't know if you remember but years ago I replied in a comment section on one of your videos about digital foundry admitting to being sponsored by Microsoft. It was likely before they where brought by the company that's now a part of ign. That in itself tells you why they have such slanted views on playstation v xbox.
Digital Foundry has been Xbox fanboys this whole generation, they always find a way of damage controlling anything negative about Xbox but quick to try find anything negative about playstation and ignore the positives.
You're right. They did admit the truth here and there but for the most part they've been pro xbox
Wuat broke the camel's back for me was them giving credit to the Wukong "money hatting" rumors circulated by Xbox exceutives. That's straight up disinformation, they would have normally denounced it if it were coming from amy other direction than Xbox exceutives.
And I think I know why they are so close to Xbox. Richard was the chief editor of the UK Sega Saturn magazine back in the days. When Microsoft entered in the console market it kind of usurped Sega, they took on board most of the western Sega staff. He must have kept conncetions with the former Sega/current Microsoft corporate structure.
i can direct to videos where many times they talk good about ps5 vs xbox sx. some games run better on ps5 and some better on xsx. but games like warhammer 4k sm2 and dd2 where high intense cpu workload is required, the xsx performs better. yet again even budget cards do better than xsx.
@@kaisersoymilk6912 give an example.
@@kaisersoymilk6912 they talked about the rumor but never gave credit to it. They acknowledge that they surely have some difficulty going from UE4 to 5 mid development
Digital Foundry is the IGN of performance analysis 😂
you guys use to love them when it was playstation is goog but now that they give their opnions on ps5pro, they are bad.
@@gillleehahn7451 they were always bad dumbo 😂. Once in a blue moon they tell the obvious . They still haven’t figured out why PS5 base model is able to beat series X and that should tell you everything from day 1😂🫵
Those snakes always downplay everything ps5 but keep having pity point for xbox ...I can't stand the whole western industry 🤡🖕
Won't be long before M$FT owns all the Western gaming industry.
@@jayclarke777 nice we all know everything MSFT touch is doomed so I'm all for it 😌 "sensational"
@@Weezard57but people going to still be playing those games someone said we Americans we should be playing Xbox and not PlayStation 😂 saying I don't speak their language
@@Nomadickiller Im french xbox doesn't exist over here 😆👊
I think DF stopped taking their own Xbox footage and only started basing their analysis on information and footage obtained directly from Microsoft.
Probably because the footage leading to analysis that was making Xbox look bad. Now the are controlled by ign they are basically Microsoft owned
I saw this video on the PS5 Pro from DF and once again someone convincing console gamers to buy a PC like nothing about PC would make me get one like why would I want to play with hackers and modders weird turning The Sims 4 to an adult rated game with mods or making Jill nude in RE3. 🤦🏾♂️
The people that saying just build a PC don't even know how to build a PC this he bought a PC for 3.2K dollars but shitting on the PlayStation have that's only 700 dollars and besides the majority of people are just going to trade their PS5s in I'm not because I need 2 PS5 anyways I was already planning to get another one anyways
@@Nomadickiller you know nothing. most pc gamers dont have 4090 gpus..or even 4080s. thats mostly people with a lot of money or streamers who just want the best. I build pcs ranging from 300-1000 dollars. i only build 1500 plus pcs on rare ocasions.
i can even show you a 700 dollar pc build now:
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $89.99
Motherboard
Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $103.39
Memory
Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $28.97
Storage
Klevv CRAS C710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Klevv CRAS C710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $52.99
Video Card
Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card
Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card $284.97
Case
Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case
Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99
Power Supply
Apevia Prestige 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply
Apevia Prestige 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $51.99
Total: $672.29
Sometimes I don't understand why everyone depends on DF for those analysis. Cerny knows more from all of them together
Only ppl with good attention span will get to the end of this video with understanding.
Big facts lol
I never take Digital Foundry seriously
You should see how Maximillian Dood feels and looks uncomfortable talking about the PS5 Pro!!! Hes having to now sort of be careful of how he talks..... hes telling everybody NOT to buy the Pro unless theyre a streamer obsessed with FF Rebirth LOL!!!!
SOOOOOO IF the Pro PS5 is unexpectedly successful ITS ALL BECAUSE OF STREAMERS LIKE MAX DOOD
why is Maximillian Dood talking shit about the pro when he fighting game guy but im seeing more and more people who one thing talking about the pro but has no videos on not to get the xbox and just get a PC
That guy is desperate for views.
He said it can run on atari 2600. Lol.
I love the production value. We have to remember they are human beings, easily swayed and the same can be said for most of us.
Keep speaking your truth - you always give me something to think about.
I don't mind that they lie....they just need to make a disclaimer at the beginning of the video.
They were just saying Spider-Man loads faster it wasn’t a dig at insomniac
Might as well compare spider man 2 for literally every single game breakdown from here on out right?....sthu
That's literally how the game is made
Xbox is irrelevant. Regardless of how many youtubers or media people they get to lie for them.
Do you notice whenever they talk about Xbox its all serious talk ,some kinda bug when its behind the Playstation. Then when its only talk about Playstation they snicker and smurk the whole video 🤔
Hey Thrash, Microsoft used basic minds to slap together basic parts to add power, because they see it on paper and think power equals better...meanwhile Sony has an actual genius who sees everything outside the box, revolutionized their tech rather than just using something with more power and nothing else, and turns the "on paper" look of consoles into something completely different.
Analysis channels still looking at tech based on how it's always been, but Sony has developed tech that leaves them behind because it's on a new level no one has reached yet. They don't understand the genius of Sony or Cerny whatsoever. They need to get on the ball and incorporate Sony tech as it's own thing and just show how it beats everything...for cheaper.
Good video.
Peace Brother, DWYD!
ps5 vs xsx warhammer sm2 - go
This video is really important and I believe attention should be beought to this. To correct this qould be difficult they would have to hire someone thats gotvthr technical understanding and loves intricate details of PCs but equally plays on PlayStation so they arent biased against PlayStation in the analysis.
Moore's Law is dead recently discussed with Colin Moriarity on his extra patreon podcast that the CPU is NOT limiting the PS5 (unlike that all thr PCMR people including Digital Foundry have said) the limiting factor to 60FPS is the GPU and the Pro fixes that probablem ao it WILL be possible for the PS5 Pro to run games in Fidelity Mode Level Graphics at 60FPS
tell me what do you know about hardware compmonents, gpu and cpu bottlenecks?
They are eurogamer , EURO , they doing such a great job promoting Xbox that PlayStation outsells it 5 to 1 in EYROPE , lol . They lies doesn’t do shit to market , people can sense bullshit
It’s why Sony and Nintendo don’t care about these influencers. People in the real just buy the best product.
I’ll NEVER FORGET that time they were searching to give Xbox a “W” SO BAD that they had to point out, “OMFGz, Control runs at an uncapped framerate!!!! ….In photo mode.” 😂
IGN NOW own DF and MOST if not ALL of the gaming outlets from what i understand!!! Not good if there is no countering voice opposing voice! I always hated IGN and the gregs and the colins that came from US outlets i preferred UK media at that time!
Oli Welsh there was outted for pushing some female agenda around that time and has stepped down from Eurogamer.... that was around the time of Days Gone i think and how Days Gone was accused of men blah blah blah
havent been to Eurogamer in yrs now as legacy media has disappeared..... websites etc... yeah IGN has never been apart of my diet ever they were sexist back in the 90s and 2000s
Bro, who remembers back in the late 90s and early 2000s when IGN used to have a “Babe of the Day” (like they were Maxim magazine or something)?
"IGN NOW own DF and MOST if not ALL of the gaming"
no they do not. eurogamer and DF are and were separate
@@leoSaunders
I don’t think that’s necessarily true, either. DF was a subsidiary under Eurogamer (I think) so while they may still retain SOME DEGREE OF INDEPENDENCE from Eurogamer, that also doesn’t mean that IGN doesn’t now own a decent portion of them.
Kinda like how PlayStation has like a 20-40% large minority stake in From Software (or how people “fearmonger” about Tencent because they pretty much have their tendrils into EVERYONE in the gaming space with varying portions and percentages of large minority shares).
TL; DR - you can still “have a say” in how something is “directed” without outright owning it. There’s A REASON why “corporate structuring” with things like number of seats and voting power on these “boards of majority shareholders” EXIST.
when i watched this excerpt on DF channel, i thought king thrash def needs to respond to this. like wtf? seriously?
PS5 Pro is clearly better than the PS5. Having said that, $700 + removable disk drive @ $120 + plastic stand @$30 is a joke and a F U to their customers. I guess somebody gotta pay for Concord.
Someone needs to make shorts to expose them to a wider audience
@@Lagosawee expose them on what exactly, for giving an opinion you don't like
I will never forget tht one video they did on the 400% zoom in for some pixel count or whtever on a game yet they choose not to catch this stuff is astounding lmfaooo
I blame DF partly for this overreaction regarding frame rates and resolution in gaming now. People are obsessed with the wrong things
When he’s talking about Alan wake load time he says “Spider-Man 2 it is not” He saying Alan wake 2 doesn’t load nearly as fast as Spider-Man 2. Just wanted to clear that up.
I’ve noticed them favoring Xbox & highlighting everything they can but with PS, it’s “ahh whatever”. Eventually ima get a pro but only when on sale or with the disc drive included. I need a tv with hdmi 2.1 tho
give me evidence
@@gillleehahn7451 go get it yourself. It’s easy enough. Watch their videos of excuses why Xbox games consistently run worse than PlayStation
Don't think this critique is fair throughout. There were some flawed comparisons by DF, the Control ray tracing example makes it clear, but then bringing up the fact that a guy was hyped in the beginning of a dedicated Forza video--compared to a snippet from a podcast that talked about Gran Turismo (not a dedicated PS5 pro video yet)--isn't fair. DF is clearly incentivized to be positive to games, but they also criticize bad performance or blurry resolutions. Alex is a PC guy and he's right, PS5 Pro won't actually run you path traced Cyberpunk (at best, you'd get a highly optimized 30fps ray tracing focused mode) or be able to max out some games that are CPU limited.
Where did Sony say the pro would run path ray Tracing??? Hell most PCs can't. Why would any sane person think that it would? Most console gamers are 100% good with 60 frames and higher resolution.
KingThrash Gaming you've done it again thanks my guy for keeping it 💯
PC hardware can barely handle ray tracing with the latest games. Path tracing not happening yet. I’m rocking a 5800x3d and a 7900xtx and a PS5. I use both pretty equally. PS5 is nice for chilling on the couch with great gaming and no issues.
PC 😂 it ain't a dedicated game system just overpriced tech to watch porn 😂
Playstation is the F1 of game console.
I am certain that they are sponsored directly or indirectly by Microsoft.
DF is... exist because of Alex...
Why was this daydream so focused on digital foundry. I thought it sepose to be about mostly about the future plans on xbox ?
DF bias was ultra obvious since their very first vídeos....it was there for anyone with eyes to see and read...
the ps5 pro upgrade slides look great
This is great like always
Digital foundry why dind compare rtx 2080 ti vs series x and compared ps5 vs 2070 super
Since according to digital foundry said series x have gpu equal to 2080 ti
Oh wow NeoGaf. Last time I was on that was like 2015. Brings back memories.
Wow, you are right. They are full of shit lmao. Well now with the PS5 Pro, they are not going to be able to BS anymore.
I havent watched digital foundary in years. I took a step back from all these so called news channels, and concentrated on solely gaming and its been so much more peaceful. Playing and enjoying games instead of watching beta males push wokeness
King you are always on point! Props to you.
One of the biggest pros for PC is backwards compatibility and future proofing. My library of games goes with me every generation. No gimmicks to play them. New games, old games on one platform…..the PC.
Hell will freeze over once yall see Nintendo tease out PC releases of their games.
Both console and PC need to exist together however.
They’re raving about the PS5 Pro and PSSR, and you’re all here hating. Like you’re some tech guru yourself. I don’t even know why you’d have an agenda that is against them to begin with, but I can take a stab in the dark and guess that you’re overly excited about the prospect of a Pro version of PS5 before it has even launched.
Expose those xbox shills! Great work!
its a bug ....
As soon as the music started at the beginning I knew it was gonna be good. At some point DF will come crashing down, just like Machinima games review.
The lighting....... I Remember this lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now that they are in the same group as IGN, they can both keep on hating of PlayStation.
I managed to get mine pre ordered and got a new samsung 55 inch to set up. My normal ps5 im giving away for free
It's all good Thrash, cuz it's all fun and games till they go and find out how much those graphics cards cost not to mention everything else they'll have to buy even before the graphics card purchase.
Facts. DF will be out of work once AI up scaling solves resolution issues. AI will soon be able to just fill in the blanks so well, nobody will know the difference. Definitely not DF. The better DLSS, PSSR is getting the more DF has to zoom in to bullshit about things nobody even notices.
Yooo...Msoft may have planned their games coming to Lord Playstation many years ago and to have them running or looking better. I will expound a lil bit later.
The PS5 in general is just a powerful console and the only machine pushing gaming forward heck The OG PS5 is still a beast. Now imagine The Pro version of this monster. Man getting ready for a lot of tears from Xbox/PC dudes LOL
I'm a PC guy but every time Sony drops a PS, PC can't match it for the same price.
Kudos to them.
The ps5 is just an x86 pc from 2019 nothing special about it, except their magic SSD that didn't do anything different than NVME anyway.
digital foundry is so full of shit. imagine believing the highest spec console on the market is of no value. like base ps4 users wouldn't benefit hugely from the massive upgrade the pro provides??? they think they are smarter than everyone but gamers just want the best and the ps5 pro is IT
When Oli says "Spider-Man it is not" he just means it doesn't load instantly like Spider-Man but it doesn't take so long to be annoying.
It's amazing to me how Digital Foundry manages to be a lightning rod for console warrior hate. They've attracted the ire of a cohort of fans from each console. Xbox fans think they're biased against Xbox because they supposedly gloss over the same issues on Playstation that they tear into on Xbox. Playstation fans think they're biased against Playstation because they've been critical of the Playstation 5 Pro. Nintendo fans think they're biased against Nintendo because they temper their expectations about the power of the Switch 2. The ire over how they've covered the PS5 Pro is also funny because they're basically the only high profile people going to bat for the improvements offered by the Pro.
Alex is just a pc fan boy he really shouldn't be in the conversation regarding consoles. I have a 4070s pc with a top end cpu and I would not say gaming on it is superior to my base ps5 in any way. Gaming on windows just isn't nearly as consistent as I want and spend alot of time fiddling and trouble shooting and unless I'm pixel peeping the games look identical. I have a steam deck so I always buy Playstation ports on steam, and not one of those ports are in any way better on my pc than my ps5. Then I have hogwarts legacy and dead space remake which have traversal studder that's annoying af I ended up buying it on ps5 anyway. Pc gaming definitely has a space but this stigma that it's superior to console gaming by dumping more money into it isn't true. The ps5 pro will be a great console for those looking for the best console experience and I would never tell someone to buy an 800 dollar crappy pc over a pro. My pc was 1700 total and theres hardly a noticeable difference, beside the hours spent dealing with windows crap, display issues, hdr issues, and all the trademark pc headaches.
Y0⁉️ Thrash has been investigating DF for years 😂. Bro Doesn't miss Anything, Got madd receipts 🤣
It’s always Alex lol. So clear he has an agenda against the ps5
@@immi7560 that clown is such a fake PC gamer. Always thinking PC is the best while showing his 4090 footage as if that’s the status quo lol.
Wow Trash is exposing this guys bad😂
I love playstation and i work on pc's but Wow! the misinformation in this video and the comments are truly shocking..still enjoyed it though 😂
Oh yes King thrash knows more than Digital foundry…… 😂
So I can get a PS5 Pro and a decent 4K television brand new for the same price as the GPU he's recommending LOL a good monitor these days cost as much as a couple of ps5s
Bro pls cover undisputed trash boxing
If gamers want to build a pc they will i hate this just build a pc nonsense...maybe we don't want to ...have yall ever thought of that? Or is that like a foreign concept...I hate these pc/xbox trying to talk gamers out of buying a pro ...I'll never talk about pc dude out of building a pc dwyd ...why are they so threatened ?
Wonder how much Microsoft payed these dudes😂😂
Great Video! 👍
DF are just ordinary RUclipsrs, I don't know how it happened that suddenly everyone started treating them like an oracle. They are ordinary enthusiasts who think they know something. In reality they are fucking liars 😂which I also proved on my channel in the "Ponies Foundry" series
They definitely know more than 99.9% of playstation gamers.
To be fair tho making upscalers like pssr, dlss etc, the default is definently not a good thing, because you will end up with developers abusing them as a clutch for "easy performance", instead of making sure it runs at an acceptable level beforehand. This is already visible in current gen games and will get much worse. 1080p or less upscaled to 4k looks always terrible period, no matter what u use. It has gotten so bad that a 4070 (600 - 700$) is a 1080p 60fps card now...
where did you get that?
i have a 3060ti in my niece s pc and a 7700xt in my pc and we both have 1440p screens. i build and test pc hardware.
What if what they're saying is proven right no 4K 60FPS for GTA6 on the PS5 pro then what plz don't roast me for asking 🙏
Well that’s just one game, Sony isn’t responsible for how Rockstar makes their game
It's will still be the best experience for GTA-6 especially if RockStar and Sony have some agreement/Contract?
I'm more curious on how long it will be before PC gets a GTA-6 port 2 or 3yrs?? I think pc had to wait 2yrs for GTA-5.😂
Great work fam
Another classic
The pwoplw telling you not to get a Pro are thenpeople who will get a Pro for free.
Stopped trusting DF along time ago. They to me are just an extension of Microsoft!!!
It’s undeniably
Most of the western gaming journalism and industry, will be an extension of them.
Regulators allow them to keep buying things up.
DF is a joke . remember what they said about the ps5🤔 ps5 made them look stupid .😮😅😂
These digital foundry guy are soo bias to Sony Microsoft must be paying them good this is straight bullshit big up to king thrash for calling them out on there bs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
DF knows that if they bash the PlayStation they’ll receive views from the happy Xbox weirdos and angry PlayStation fans.
There’s so many shills on RUclips for Xbox guys all they do is shill!!! lol
Where is your video about the 400 mil mistake by Sony? No wonder they'll overcharge and rip off for the Pro because they need to recoup that lost money
You're still salty because Microsoft is still trying to recover from a $100 billion+ failure. Sony will be fine. Xbox will be a thumb drive this time next year.
@@NostraSamus i don't care about corporations, not sony or ms
@@BottomFeeder-k5c Well you obviously care by mentioning a $400 million failure by Sony. Stop being a hypocrite.
I'm here simply to laugh to the childish console warriors. You are my entertainment. Now entertain me NostraSamus
@@BottomFeeder-k5c I might as well be, since Xbox and PC building can't entertain as they are media boxes and office desktops respectively.
DWYD
Base PS5 was already consistently winning on framerate. Alex is an astroturfer with dogwater taste in games always shilling for Nvidia, Ubisoft and whatever eurojank developers out there.
i stopped trusting in there tech knowledge when they said series x with 2 more tflops will destroy ps5 and ran with it until ps5 came out and showed them how dumb and wrong they were
just like now we need to wait for ps5 pro to come out so we can laugh at DF again and show them the mirror
what did digital foundry say ?
Think my breaking point was when saying halo infinite only looked bad as it was in shadow while showing fully sun lit scenes in same footage , tried to take us for idiots
DF is like Alex, Dealer, Rand, Zalker, Colt, even RGT 85 in a sense. At least when white ppl lie on products they're doing it for gain, views and money. The black idiot Xtards, 0ylike Parris and the Hispanic Xtards, like Crazy Lui don't have a big presence online.
Didn't they talk very positively about the pro yet?
@@Pointman11111 no they just speculating that GTA 6 will run at 30 fps on the pro with no evidence just pure "what they think" and allowed news outlets to run with it like it's a fact
I knew it be Alex, that clown is always talking shit about consoles
Digital Foundry having Alex who hate Eve body so
Microsoft is equal to diddy lmao