what i noticed on rewatches of angel

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  • stuff i picked up after my first viewing of angel like foreshadowing and parallels.
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  • @alexngomusic
    @alexngomusic 2 года назад +120

    Wow, I can't believe David broke so many times. And the fact they just kept it.

    • @ingdanify
      @ingdanify Год назад +10

      Yes haha! I laughed so hard when I saw him break in the episode when Harmony visited Cordelia. He clearly breaks at one point. So surprised they kept it in. Love it

  • @clairelfleming
    @clairelfleming 2 года назад +87

    Amy also breaks character to laugh when Andrew is telling the all the story of Buffy and the Vampyrs

  • @Mac-mp4kj
    @Mac-mp4kj 2 года назад +169

    Great job!! I never noticed the Fred + plants thing and that just absolutely broke my heart. I loved the Fred/Illyria story arc even though it is so difficult to watch.

    • @justcarrie89
      @justcarrie89 2 года назад +19

      Right? I just finished rewatching Angel, again lol. And this storyline always gives me SUCH mixed feelings. I love illyria and I get excited for her to appear but I also love Fred and I'm heartbroken about her death every.. single.. time

    • @bdfan4ever
      @bdfan4ever 2 года назад +21

      There’s also a scene in the episode where they all cast a spell and revert to their teenage selves and Fred once again mentions how beautiful plants sound.

    • @yourfluffyvegancinnamonrol2772
      @yourfluffyvegancinnamonrol2772 2 года назад +4

      @@bdfan4ever :o Wow I didn't know that!! Amazing!

    • @yourfluffyvegancinnamonrol2772
      @yourfluffyvegancinnamonrol2772 2 года назад +10

      @@justcarrie89 🎶 Someday I'll go, where there ain't no rain or snow, till then, I travel alone and I make my bed, with the stars above my head and dream of a place called home....🥺

    • @pegasBaO23
      @pegasBaO23 2 года назад +8

      I love both Fred and Illyria it kinda breaks my heart, that to get one I have to lose the other

  • @esmerv7064
    @esmerv7064 2 года назад +117

    Great video! I never picked up on Cordy's pillow smothering comment before, ouch.
    Two other bits of foreshadowing I love: Cordy saying, "One of these days you're going to wake up in a coma," to Giles in the Buffy episode Gingerbread, then actually waking up in a coma in You're Welcome. And Wesley prophesizing his own end in To Shanshu in LA when he says, "Angel's cut off, death doesn't bother him because there's nothing in life he wants," then telling Illyria that there is nothing he wants shortly before he dies in Not Fade Away. (Credit to TPN for pointing out that second one.)

    • @jimapplebee5322
      @jimapplebee5322 2 года назад +7

      Cordy actually didn't wake up from the coma in You're Welcome. That's why she drew the curtain when she said something about about them not getting coma girl a private room.

    • @sinloi2675
      @sinloi2675 Год назад +4

      ​@Jim Applebee I think what they're getting at is hey consciousness is awake while her body is still in the coma therefore she "woke up in a coma"

    • @bernardsoul5186
      @bernardsoul5186 5 месяцев назад

      @@jimapplebee5322you're confusing "wake up IN a comma" with "wake up FROM a comma," you ninny

    • @jimapplebee5322
      @jimapplebee5322 5 месяцев назад

      @@bernardsoul5186 Oh the irony. Nobody is talking about a punctuation mark, you ninny. Plus, on the phone call, Angel says she never did wake up.

    • @bernardsoul5186
      @bernardsoul5186 5 месяцев назад

      @@jimapplebee5322 Lol "punctuation" your basic English is even worse than I thought, tell your parents you need an IEP

  • @jasonreid9267
    @jasonreid9267 Год назад +14

    Buffy Season 3, "Enemies":
    Faith: What can I say? I'm the world's best actor.
    Angel: Second best.
    Cut to Angel Season 5, "Power Play"
    Lorne: Oh, so this whole evil Angel thing has been a big scamola. Huh, I smell Oscar.

  • @thepunkmuppet
    @thepunkmuppet Год назад +13

    ANGEL AND DOYLE OH MY GOD YESSSSSS IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR AGES ALSO THEY CONFIRMED THAT CORDY GOT THE VISIONS THROUGH A KISS. BECAUSE HE WAS ROMANTICALLY IN LOVE WITH HER. ANGELDOYLE CONFIRMED AND THEY DIDNT EVEN REALISE IT

  • @rexmachina8091
    @rexmachina8091 2 года назад +36

    babe wake up herondale posted another angel video
    HOW DID I NEVER REALIZE THAT EVE SANG LINDSEY'S SONG- okay i take back everything ive said about lindsey and eve maybe theyre a little cute

  • @anitafleischer511
    @anitafleischer511 Год назад +51

    Something else that’s interesting is that in the alternative world in which Cordy is a movie star, Doyle passed his visions onto Angel. The last thing Cordy does before she dies in Season 5 is kiss Angel to give him one vision. So I’m thinking maybe the visions were actually meant for Angel all along?
    Also the similarity between Whistler and Doyle. I can’t be the only one who noticed … that’s basically the same character.
    Oh and you remember after Buffy sent Angel to hell and went to L.A. The girl she saved asked her if she could be Anne. That same Anne is later taking care of the street kids in L.A and on his last day on earth Charles visits her and helps her load the donations onto the Truck

    • @godmagnus
      @godmagnus Год назад +5

      Doyle was supposed to be Whistler. They just couldn't get the actor.

    • @Ana-yc5ox
      @Ana-yc5ox Год назад +1

      @@godmagnus Actually he was available but they never offered him the role

    • @bernardsoul5186
      @bernardsoul5186 5 месяцев назад

      Everybody knows about Anna, and she was also in two episodes of Angel season 2 lol

  • @SuigetsuIsArt
    @SuigetsuIsArt 2 года назад +29

    So many great little parallels ... I love this show so much.
    Also I'm so on board the bi Angel train lmao. Honestly the whole "I want to share the pleasure of killing with another man, you don't think that makes me a deviant, do you?" (paraphrasing) was pretty on the nose ... and there was 'that one time', or something like him kissing Spike on the forehead in s2 of Buffy ... and Spike likes to hit him with 'ponce' and 'poof' and such, which could just be a general guy insults but is kind of interesting if you take it from the angle that Spike knows something others don't. I think Angel's just a guy from the 1700s so he doesn't really pursue it, and he prefers women anyways. Anyways AU Angel/Doyle was real haha.

    • @user-zl8mg3ll2j
      @user-zl8mg3ll2j 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, wouldn't doyle have to kiss angel for him to get the visions in the alternate universe?

  • @zach85
    @zach85 2 года назад +24

    Great idea for starting our Christmas day! To celebrate your love for Angel and its characters looks so vintage for some, but widely appreciated by people like you and us who recognize how its purpose and mission are still worth. And thanks for some unknown insights

  • @gloriabaquera5434
    @gloriabaquera5434 2 года назад +43

    It's always been my headcanon that Doyle was bi or pan. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that lil' thing :D

    • @user-zl8mg3ll2j
      @user-zl8mg3ll2j 7 месяцев назад

      Ooh i like that idea

    • @Pancake3225
      @Pancake3225 3 месяца назад +1

      Maybe I’m a little attracted…

  • @nelyang5862
    @nelyang5862 Год назад +5

    on my rewatch in blown away but how well charisma plays possessed!cordy. She played "Jasmine pretending Cordelia's sassiness" with such precision!!

  • @dipperjc
    @dipperjc Год назад +6

    "You were born in an alley, if I recall."

  • @herondale
    @herondale  2 года назад +20

    I finished editing this video yesterday and I thought why not release it today so here you go

  • @TunezCottage
    @TunezCottage Год назад +4

    Omg these are blowing my mind, and I've watched this show back-to-back with Buffy countless times. Literally, lost count after 30 something.

  • @laurenjcoates
    @laurenjcoates 2 года назад +7

    proving the show gets better and better with each rewatch

  • @ottav69
    @ottav69 Месяц назад

    I thought the same exact thing when I saw that episode with the "alternate Cordelia is a star and Angel got the visions universe."

  • @kenrickbautista6141
    @kenrickbautista6141 2 года назад +4

    Best Christmas gift ever: another 'Angel' video. 🥰🎁🎄
    Thanks so much.

  • @stephenplatts8492
    @stephenplatts8492 2 года назад +3

    Great video! I've watched through the show at least a half dozen times and totally missed a lot of those.

  • @ADDButterfly
    @ADDButterfly 2 года назад +13

    You know, I always thought maybe Doyle kissed Angel to pass on the visions. But that could have just been my hopeful imagination. LOL

    • @anitafleischer511
      @anitafleischer511 Год назад +1

      Either that or he performed com shuck with him 😅

    • @LowResCatExplosion
      @LowResCatExplosion 9 месяцев назад +1

      Angel is so homophobic that alternate timeline Doyle kissing him sent him into a mad delirium

  • @JW-mk2qq
    @JW-mk2qq 2 года назад +13

    Awesome christmas present!!! One that i picked up on was doyles claddagh (i think thats how you spell it) ring, always wanted to look closer and see if he turned it round as he got closer to cordy. Merry christmas everyone!!!

  • @David-ve5iq
    @David-ve5iq 2 года назад +12

    Sarah Summers.

  • @maggienada77
    @maggienada77 2 года назад +6

    Omg another videooooo!!!!❤😍what a lovely Christmas present!!😭Love this so much as always, and now I can say I studied well cause I knew them all!! Ok maybe one or two are new😜the intermission god I loved that😂... yeah I'm talking to much I know but you know I love you and your channel😂❤
    So thank youuuuuu!!🥺and happy holidays!!🥰

  • @johnhuffman9533
    @johnhuffman9533 Год назад +1

    3:15 Also: "I've heard you sing." PEW PEW

  • @TheHopefulchild
    @TheHopefulchild Год назад +4

    If you watch both Buffy and Angel (the shows) you’ll find more connections.

  • @qwertywert42
    @qwertywert42 2 года назад +2

    Love this so much

  • @dinosaurs_rule
    @dinosaurs_rule Год назад

    This is mind-blowing

  • @STLBlackout92
    @STLBlackout92 Месяц назад

    I died at the pillow demon part LOL

  • @yourfluffyvegancinnamonrol2772
    @yourfluffyvegancinnamonrol2772 2 года назад +1

    Wow kinda mind-blowing! o:

  • @oruchristopher8945
    @oruchristopher8945 3 месяца назад

    For the vision thing, just as doyle got the powers from the powers that be, so did angel.

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 Год назад +1

    *it was such aperfect little show. the wolfram & hart takeover; genius. (& bc of cancellation?)* good observations btw. love the illiria biz. _JC

  • @lwanco1018
    @lwanco1018 2 года назад +2

    You need to do one on Wesley, either a appreciation video or something on him and Gunn being friends.

  • @madcap47764
    @madcap47764 2 года назад +3

    Pretty awesome

  • @spikesecho724
    @spikesecho724 2 года назад +12

    A lot of people bring up the "Please Sarah" from I will remember you....but I just don't hear it, even with ear buds. There's a little bit of an "sss" from him, but the way the shots are edited, he's not actually forming any words.

  • @rosemarycat5
    @rosemarycat5 Год назад +2

    oh HECK very interesting

  • @brennaleeann1416
    @brennaleeann1416 2 года назад +17

    NO CAUSE ANGEL AND DOYLE BOTH BEING BI IS BASICALLY CANON

  • @MiguelDracul
    @MiguelDracul Год назад +25

    Doyle is a bisexual icon. He stated that he felt attracted to Angel in one episode so it makes sense how those feelings would have evolved if there was just the two of them fighting evil without Cordelia.

    • @UJEvans
      @UJEvans Год назад +11

      Imagine Angel being completely oblivious. Then Doyle kisses him out of nowhere right before he dies.

    • @user-zl8mg3ll2j
      @user-zl8mg3ll2j 7 месяцев назад

      @@UJEvans Oof... that might be even sadder than what happened in canon...

    • @FlamesAndShadows
      @FlamesAndShadows 6 месяцев назад

      @@user-zl8mg3ll2j My headcannon is that it sadly didn't. It started with Angel, but at that point 'Joss's Curse' was fairly deep into gaining momentum I'm refering of course to something horrible happening every time a couple resolved all their problems, promised to get together on pure intentions, someone wasn't suffering as a result (Wesley for Fred and Gunn, Spike for Buffy and Riley, Dr.Horrible for Captain Hammer and Penny) or there wasn't a sinister subplot. Later it speread to all his shows like the plague, becoming more and more, swift and harsh.

  • @KentPetersonmoney
    @KentPetersonmoney Год назад +2

    Didn't Gunn and Angel pretty much become friends. Been 6 years since I seen the series. I got into it after bing watching Buffy when it was on Netflix. From what I heard if there was a season 6 Gunn would have became a vampire but they decided to end it with season 5.

    • @melaniewhite
      @melaniewhite Год назад +2

      In season 6 in the comics, he does become a vampire.

    • @KentPetersonmoney
      @KentPetersonmoney Год назад

      @@melaniewhite I wanted that one girl forgot her name to turn into a vampire since she looked down on angel. He did bite her when he was angelic but Wesley Chopped her head off. Very disappointing.

    • @user-zl8mg3ll2j
      @user-zl8mg3ll2j 7 месяцев назад

      @@KentPetersonmoney In the comics?

  • @victoriakohler627
    @victoriakohler627 6 месяцев назад

    I haven’t seen the Angel spin-off so…
    “Angel hAs a KId!?!??!”

  • @tell-talehearts4462
    @tell-talehearts4462 2 года назад +27

    I did not notice the thing with angel and doyle. it's incredibly possibly- doyle has such strong bi/pansexual energy and angel is technically canonically bi! it would make sense for wesley to try and 'no homo' it lol

    • @pegasBaO23
      @pegasBaO23 2 года назад +6

      "angel is technically canonically bi" how? what? how?

    • @jindrichsander7271
      @jindrichsander7271 2 года назад +5

      @@pegasBaO23 all excellent questions

    • @jindrichsander7271
      @jindrichsander7271 2 года назад +1

      source?

    • @jindrichsander7271
      @jindrichsander7271 2 года назад +1

      proof?

    • @jindrichsander7271
      @jindrichsander7271 2 года назад +1

      angel is not bi, every one of his love interests was a woman. When guys started flirting with him he started to feel uncomfortable (pilot episode)

  • @mercuryshadow5445
    @mercuryshadow5445 Год назад +2

    *in Barry Burton voice*
    What **is** this?

  • @marstal4913
    @marstal4913 2 года назад +8

    1:02 is out of context, that is the episode where Cordelia met Skip and became a famous actress changing her whole universe where she never met Doyle or reconnected with Angel, thus when Doyle died the only person to pass the visions to was Angel.

    • @bleepbloop101010101
      @bleepbloop101010101 2 года назад +11

      It's not out of context, they're speculating whether Doyle kissed and/or loved Angel in the alternate timeline.

  • @JoeThornhill
    @JoeThornhill 3 месяца назад

    Wait, who was that girl at 3:15?

    • @herondale
      @herondale  3 месяца назад

      Eve from Season 5. She helped Angel run Wolfram and Hart and was in a relationship with Lindsey during the season

    • @JoeThornhill
      @JoeThornhill 3 месяца назад

      @@herondale Really? Her hair was a lot darker in that shot.