Project Man Cave Part 14 - A Higher Call
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Every Man Cave has to have a B-17, and knowing the story of 2nd Lieutenant Charlie Brown and Leutnant Franz Stigler from World War II there was only ever one B17 model I wanted.
Very good video...couldnt hold my tears thinking about my grandfather who was on a similar situation during the Portuguese Colonial War in Africa, people like that B17 pilot are angels! Hugs*
O meu tio também teve ,em Angola, mas como membro de infantaria
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It's really more about a man having to choose between duty, and his own morality. Since Stigler had shot down 2 B-17's that same day he didn't have a problem taking a life. However when he saw the incapacitated crew trying to save the lives of the injured, and the inability to fight back. Stigler stuck to his principles and instead aided men in need. Rather than "kicking a man while he was down".
at least that's what I got out of the story.
Strange world we live in when the man dropping bombs on people's houses and killing people is an angel.
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Everybody killed everybody in WWII. It isn't as though Stigler spent the war doing nothing but helping save kittens and babies. And the Luftwaffe did plenty of bombing of British towns and cities. The point is this...inside the war between the Allies and Axis powers there were millions of soldiers on all sides that fought because they had to. Not every German was a heartless Nazi who wanted to kill everyone. And not every allied soldier loved killing Germans.
snakeies66 that's what he just said in the comment you replied to...
Oh damn; that retelling actually had me crying. Thank you for bringing it to light - I have never heard of it but glad I was able to hear it now.
I read this story a while back when it was left on Warthunder's Reddit thread. I cried a bit, too. If I was on that particular B-17, and saw a 109 like that, I'd probably expect to die in the next few minutes. The fact that he didn't do that, and instead led the bomber halfway home... I can see why those that pilot became close with the bomber crew he saved.
There was once a convention in the memory of the Holocaust survivors. One of the quests of honor was a German businessman, who saved more than 1000 Jews from certain death and transported them out of the Reich. He had a speech and said "he only did what he could to save human being from being slaughtered like cattle by maniacs", I do not recall exactly, but that was the point.
After he ended his speech the chairman stood up and read a list of 1000 names. After hearing his name or his ancestor's name, a person in a huge hall stood up. After the reading was over, the whole hall stood up. Organizators collected all the survivors or their descendants. They all applauded to their savior, who could not stand on his feet, sat in the chair and cried of emotions.
Being human is very simple and very hard.
Oskar Schindler by any chance?
BohemianEagle
No, he was not the only one who saved Jews. I cannot recall the name, unfortunately.
BohemianEagle
Jingles, I am glad for reaching you this way and I really appreciate you replying to my comment. You are great, keep up the good work! And never shave your majestic beard!
I have an idea/suggestion for you as you look like a great narrator for such kind of series.
There is an easy way to train your crews to 150 and earn tons of money to buy expensive tier 2 and 3 aircraft and train your crews for these in WarThunder.
This is not a trick or hack, just logics and advice on efficient gameplay for newbies (for any players actually). If you could record and play it - that would be great.
I did it and described the process in a comment to one of your videos. I do not want to post it here not to spam but would gladly wright it as a private message if you would allow.
I have to say Jingles, i now have tears down my face, amazing story of a true soldier's honor, great models also:-)
Wonderful story Jingles.
Even in the horrors of war people tried to keep their dignity. Just to feel human and do something good.
Thank you very much for this heart warming story, I have never heard it before.
I consider myself quite well versed when it comes to WW2... but mostly in the Pacific. Hearing this story put a huge smile on my face because even in moments of despair, tragedy, and a World War, humans can show compassion and kindness, even to an enemy. These are the things that we as humans need to focus on more and more.
I'm a big WWII history guy, and these tales of unexpected chivalry between enemies are always among my favorites.
Jingles, these stories are a big part of why I love watching your channel. Please don't ever stop these great history stories with your awesome content.
Franz was my grandfather. You can't imagine how great it is to hear people talking about him with such high regard.
This story always gets to me in the best way
Dmitri Ptrenko thumbs up! cant do it "the normal way", YT dont let me give a simple thumb up... -.-
I don't read that many war stories when it comes to aircraft (I do prefer my tanks) but this is one story is one I hold great respect for. This is one of those stories that replaces my faith in humanity even in the darkest of times.
Goosebumps man, what a story. Thank you for sharing!
I have long felt that is the point at which Soldier becomes a Warrior. When they break the paradigm of that "Do as your told, for any reason given or none at all, because you owe it to what ever powers that be." mentality. And, simply do what they feel is right. Weather told to or not. Weather forbade or not. Potential consequences be damned.
...Great tale Jingles. And, you told it so well.
Im sure Stalin and Pol Pot both did what they "felt" was right
Doing what you feel is right, of course, does not always make you right. I didn't say a warrior is necessarily deserving of praise or admiration. Or that a warrior is a hero by default (although, in the particular case of this pilot I would say that he was a hero).
I said that a warrior is different from a soldier. Take notice as well, that I did not say that one is better then the other (sometimes you need a soldier, sometimes you need a warrior). Just that they are different. And, that there is a point at which one can become another (warriors too, can become soldiers). And, that this alteration is deserving of recognition.
Well said
It's always so moving to here stories of frontline soldiers putting aside their status as enemies, from the Christmas Day Truce to Christmas Eve in Bastogne to this.
the Charlie Brown encounter is a fantastic story. It really shakes the myth that the Germans were cold, emotionless killing machines.
Made me misty
Was in the Air Force and the Air Guard for over 20 years...there are many such stories out there, most people for get that soldiers are people too, thank you so much for sharing
one of my favorite WWII stories.
What people seem to forget is that after all, even the enemy is a human. I really love this story, not the first time I've heard it though.
he did say many of you will have heard this story. no need to phrase your comment with a negative connotation at the end
Richard joule Please do elaborate how that was "negative", because that's not what I was going for. Maybe you are over-analyzing a bit there?
probably. my bad
That brought a tear to my eye. Just goes to show that even in the mists of a war, that some German fighter pilots had dignity and honour.Really good to here this story.
Sometimes, we are colleagues and humans before we are soldiers and men of war. Great story mate, thanks for telling it.
First heard this on one of FRANKIEonPCin1018p's videos. Great to hear it again, one of my favorite war stories. Nice to hear you tell it, thanks Jingles!
That was a very beautifull story, proving that there was still a little bit of humanity and mercy left in a war without either...
Great story Jingles. I've heard and read about this many times, but I truely enjoyed the way you told it. Thank you.
Wow awesome story. First time I ever heard that one. Thanks for sharing. Made my day.
Great video. One of my best friends has a grandfather who flew B-17s in the war from England. I have met him a few times. He also became friends with Errol Flynn during the war. He flew something like 52 combat missions including being chased into Switzerland by German fighters. He said he was pretty messed up by the end of the war after seeing so many of those he flew with die. He also told be that when the war was over he drank enough Budweiser to float the Queen Mary. He is still a live today thankfully. He prefers Miller Genuine Draft these days.
Tears in my eyes... What a story... Thank you
Jingles should work as a history show narrator.
Xerath The Magus Ascendant That doesn't make him any less fit to narrate a historical documentary lets say. The people who do it on TV just read from a script, some are probably very knowledgeable when it comes to history. But i would bet most just get a script, head to the audio booth and do the lines.
Jingles could definitely do the same, and with a better voice than most too.
He would be great PR manager or a politician to. As long he doesn't make joke over Germans, Ausies , Kiwis etc...
***** No just a narrator. You don't have to be an expert to narrate. Just have a good voice. Like someone said it is mostly script reading.
All things considered, the average German soldier considered the Americans to be quite brave. One of my late father's friends, who crewed a Flak 88 (btw, I'm a 1st-gen American) said as much; as far as he was concerned, anybody who could fly, in broad daylight, into a *flak wall* (ask a WWII bomber what _that_ means...), _had_ to have nerves of steel. Well spoken, Jingles; this a story well worth telling, _and_ remembering.
Simply outstanding and expected from the B-17's crew side regarding the BF-109G's pilot actions. I have nothing but respect for that BF-109 pilot.
Amazing story Jingles. Simply Amazing. Thank you for reminding us that, people can also have that heart not to "shoot a guy who parachutted".
Also, nothing but respect toward you as well. If you have more amazing stories like this one please, make include more of them in your videos.
Also the plane models are very nice :D.
Stories like this just make me so happy. Thanks for sharing, Jingles!
Very good video Jingles. Thanks for bringing this amazing tale to my attention. I shall be looking for the full story now.
I can't believe I hadn't heard this story! Thanks Jingles! I was born in West Virginia, it is actually right across the river from where I am typing away now.
Always been super partial to those two aircraft as well.
Nice models.
I remember this story. I read this story while I took a visit to Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville, Oregon, USA, Home of the Hughes H-4 Hercules or better known as the "Spruce Goose". I believe it was one of the paintings they had of that moment and the little story about it. It was rather interesting story. And was happy to have that knowledge and the knowing there were good people in the darkest of times.
Truly be of my wishes to go back to that museum. As it was an awesome place. Sadly never saw the space side of the grounds as that was a completely different building and had to pay to see that side as well. But still, it is worthy to go back. Also Oregon is a lovely place. And people of Oregon. Don't change. Your awesome. This is coming from a Missouri Boy who finally saw a real body of water, the Pacific Ocean lol.
Going back to this video after your Fort Jingles.
You made go out and buy the book 8 years ago. Loved every page of it
I got this story through G-mail a few years ago, & I thought back then, how great these men were...even in times of war, good shines through! I am glad that you honour these brave GOOD men in your man cave, I don't know why this time around but it got to me, it really got to me; when I first read this story it gave a slightly different account as to where they were living at the time when they met but that doesn't really matter now, what DOES matter is this account of chivalry & compassion wasn't lost to time! I know when they did finally meet, there wasn't a dry eye in the house...not too many now, damn you beach sand!!! Thank you Jingles, thank you very much...RIP: Lt Charlie Brown & Lt Franz Stigler.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident
Indeed, a much higher calling than the persuit of personal awards and decorations. The simple act of mercy and compassion can do amazing things
An outstanding story, Jingles! Thank you, sir, stay safe.
SABATON LYRICS
"No Bullets Fly"
From down below an enemy spotted
So hurry up rearm and refuel
But through the bomber's damaged airframe
See wounded men scared to the bone
Look to the right and then look again
And see the enemy in the eye
No bullets fly sparred by his mercy
Escorted out
Out of harms way
Fly, fighting fair
It's the code of the air
Brothers, Heroes, Foes
Killing machine
Honour in the sky
B-17 flying home
Killing machine
Said goodbye to the cross he deserved
He risked his life 2 times that day
To save an unknown enemy
Escort to safety out of the kill zone
A short salute then departed
Fly, fighting fair
It's the code of the air
Brothers, Heroes, Foes
Killing machine
Honour in the sky
B-17 flying home
Killing machine
Said goodbye to the cross he deserved
I never understood that those lyrics where about an actual event until now
Never knew a German could be so merciful even in the height of war. Thank you jingles
Honestly not surprised you were aware of this. This is one of my favorite stories from the 2nd world war. Thank you for retelling it :)
It’s been ten years. From the man who make evil laugh on the internet , he makes me crying with in three minutes every time.
Absolutely loved this story. Thank you for telling us!
Because of you I bought the model,the book and I know the story of the accident down to every detail!Thanks!
That story brought manly tears to my eyes.
That there is such humanity even in the midst of inhumanity is reason enough to hope.
That story just never get's old. humankind at it's best!
A wonderful story, showing how in war, a lot of the time the one's fighting are not the one's who deserve the pain. They have no choice, and most of them don't want to fight, shown through occasions like this where at times they ignore their orders, and work together.
That is an amazing and heartwarming story. Just goes to show that their is faith in this world. Amazing video and great channel! Subscribed!
This moved me. Well done and thanks for the piece of history.
Story well told sir.
You made my mother cry.
Jingles, you have possibly one of the best story telling voices i have ever heard
I liked this episode the most so far. I hope if you get more historical vehicles you can give us the history of it as well.
I love those story. keep the good work.
You don't know how much I appreciate you doing this, Tks you very much.
awesome story thank you for sharing this with us jingles.
That was an good story Jingles, looking forward to your next video.
Thanks for makin me cry jingles...lol.,Truly amazing person right there.
Damn you mister Jingles! What a touching story that was! Great act of compassion...
That's amazing, this is my first time hearing that story.
That is absolutely incredible.
Shame on all of you who are saying that pilot should've shot that bomber down. This story is inspiring.
Jingles, your narration skills are excellent. Great story telling.
Thank man it just came in the mail today look amazing thank you so much for showing this to me it is my favorite book
Amazing story Jingles, very touching.
Oh how I wish More Pilots in Warthunder were like this. Would add so much more value and depth to the game.
That wouldn't make any sense,Why would they let you go in a B17 just to have to shoot you down minutes later to end the game?
once in a RB an enemy IL-2 escorted me back to my base and diden't killed me because i asked him to spar my live
You want people in a video game about getting points for shooting down planes, to not shoot down planes because they feel sorry for how damaged they are?
Moldy that's why warthunder has a timer to end the battle
Warthunder AA also doesnt care whether your next to the enemy or not. If it sees an opposing plane, everything in the surrounding area is gonna get blown to bits. I know this through unfortunate past experience :/
I've known this story for quite a while now, and I really like it. Very nice that you put a video of it on youtube!
Those two A/C definitely deserve a place in your man cave. Very Nice
Oh, lord. This story always makes me cry.
No matter how many times I hear about this it always tugs are my heart...
I knew the story before watching the video, but not in such detail. It was very nice to hear it from you.
Holy Cow!
This shows perfectly that even in war, its a good thing maintain a human behavior!
If only there had been more persons like this german pilot in WWII....
Im realy impressed of him!
But not as much as there should have been... nontheless an impressiv, heartshakin story!
Glad that you've had a break in the weather. Love your videos.
I still tear up whenever I hear this story.
Its just...wonderfull.
Same here. That's honour in war.
My great grandfather flew in the battle of Britain. After the war they moved to America. Fast forward to last year and my 3 year old loves airplanes and I was remodeling his room. I decided to make his room a tribute to the Battle of Britain. I painted the ceiling in clouds and it is all blue. On one wall I painted the white cliffs of dover. I made 4 BF109 and 4 Spitfite models and hung them from the ceiling as if they were dogfighting. I also got my great grandfathers jacket and it is in a case above my sons bed. I love going in his room.
Dude, Jingles....thank you soo much for that vid. It was an amazing story to add to my inventory. Thx much
Jingles, My Mom gave me the book A Higher Call, and I loved it. Per your comment, I am now reading Ship of Ghosts now. Keep up the videos.
I don't know how i didn't see this sooner on your channel. I actually tripped over this book on Audible several months ago. That was because of another amazing story between a US tanker gunner Clarence Smoyers and German Panther gunner Gustav Schaefer called Spearhead. Both books are by Adam Makos and both books are amazing! I am not a reader so audio books are the only way i (read) in my opinion the audiobook version of both books are beyond words. If you have any interest in Military history especially WW2 both of these are worth buying. Thanks Jingles i wish i had come across this sooner.
What a great story! Thanks Jingles!
Amazing story. I have no words to express my thanks to you for relating that. Please keep up the good work. and god bless. :)
I read the book about this. The book made me cry. I read it 2 times. Awesome story :)
Great storry! Would be great to hear more storyes like this one from you Jingles :)
What a story,thank you Jingles.
Great Story! And a really good resaon to buy those planes.
I am german and my grandfather was wounded in russia. His own troops left him to die, but two russian soldiers carried him miles on their own feet to save him. Now when our family meets every Christmas with 42 people (my grandparents died some years ago) to keep on the tradition he started we should really remember those two "enemies" who are responsable for the existance of our whole family.
Thx Jingles
fascinating story! Thank you for sharing! :)
BohemianEagle Very nice story Jingles! Speaking on behalf of everyone (I think hopefully) it was a really touching story and you should do more videos about stories of such things or even make a series as I would be very interested to hear more from you
Such a great story!
I understand Stigler did a nice thing and showed compassion, but the B-17 also did bomb the hell out of some city or something so you can't say the B-17 would have done the same thing if in the position. Great story Jingles, I love your man cave videos! :D
I couldn't believe that you made a video about this story :O
It's my favorite book :D
That story always brings a tear to my eye.
I cried that was beautiful mr jingles
i never looked this story, from their children or grandchildren perspective. he saved not only the b17s crew, but the future generations of that crew. as jingles said 100 people very intense story. and definetly one of the best story id ever know about ww2
People should really read this book its amazing! It's not just about that fateful day, but about the years before and after. I heavily recommend this book!
one hell of a book written about this story -- would highly recommend it
It's a great story...a highly recommended read for those interested in WWII aviation and/or history.
This story was so beautiful it Showed that really alot of germans in ww2 were very hartfull this is one of the best stoeiers I ever heared!
i feel so happy that people like that lived and had a good life
I have herd this story before It is always nice to hear story's of this Nature from history ,
Great story, thanks for sharing.
Awesome story Jingles. Humanity still has a chance...
Manly tear falling from my cheek. Good story! :)
One of the greatest books I have ever read!