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At the 2:08 mark - Addam of Hull didn't tell Rhaenyra who his father is because it is still a "secret" between Coryls, Allyn, & Addam. Rhaenys knew the truth, but she also realized it was not her place to say anything, especially to the general public about Coryls' private issues. Until Coryls acknowledges his sons & asks the Queen to legitimize them, they are just lowborn bastards (for now). That is why Rhaenys told him that they shouldn't be hidden away but rather raised in Driftmark with honor so that one of them can be named as his heir now that his two "true born" children are dead. Also it is very likely that Coryls has some Targaryen in his heritage. Back in Old Valeria & also after Ageon's conquest of Westeros, both houses of Velaryon & Targaryen intermingled with each other through marriages & affairs. Just because you have Targaryen blood doesn't automatically mean you are capable or worthy to be a dragonrider. By the way, Ulf didn't step on a dragon egg. He just stepped in the membrane that surrounds the clutch of eggs, sort of like a protective nest. Vermithor & Silverwing are a mated pair, as their former riders were King Jaeherys & Queen Alysanne. They were the two dragons that Cregan Stark mentioned in episode 1, when he told Jace about how they refused to fly beyond The Wall. Silverwing is the mother of Syrax, Rhaenyra's dragon. Here's the status of dragon count so far. The Greens have 3 that are able to fight - Vhagar, DreamFyre, & Tessarion. Sunfyre is still injured & unable to fly. While The Blacks have Syrax, Vermax, Monndancer, Vermithor, Silverwing, Caraxes, & maybe Sheep Stealer (if Rhaena is able to claim it).
About Hugh, in the book it's not mentioned who his parents are. But the show mentioned his mother to be sister to Viserys and Daemon's dad, Baelon, and that she was a wh*re in a pleasure house. In the books King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne had a daughter Saera Targaryen. She was rebellious and had several sex scandals. She was eventually sent to Old Town to join the Faith of the Seven to become septa but she escapes from there and go to Essos where she lives her life in a pleasure house (it's said that she even wore the Septa's dress while "working"). She had few bastards. Some of them even came to Great Council in Harrenhal, the election for Jaehaerys' heir where Jaehaerys declared Viserys to be his heir based on the voting. So Hugh is the bastard son of Saera Targaryen. Jaehaerys was so fed up that he even admitted she's a wh*re when Queen Alysanne spoke for her. They tried to lock her up in Red Keep but it didn't work, she escaped, tried to steal a dragon. Hugh refered to Baelon as his mother's brother and not a half-brother. So Vermithor was Hugh's grandfather Jaehaerys Targaryen's dragon first. Now his grandson's. The actor who plays Hugh and the show runner confirmed in an interview that Saera Targaryen is High's mum.
You two are like the only people who somewhat understand the point Jace was trying to make Jace has been harassed by the greens and their supporters through his whole childhood because of his parentage. Having his own dragon, Vermax, was a reminder of his identity, that he actually is a legitimate Targaryen. But if any bastard could claim a dragon, what does that make him? He also has been saying through out this whole season how insecure he is about his legitimaty and how he wants to fight for it so he is seen worthy for the throne, so it's no surprise that he finally brought it up. What if those new riders just decide to switch up on them and want to have their own claim to the throne? What if Rhaenyra dies, Jace is her heir, will those men in her council and the rest of the realm that are loyal to Rhaenyra wanna fight for him? Those bastards have more Targaryen features than Jace and who is to say that the realm won't change their loyalty because of that. Let's not forget the fact that they now got dragons that are way larger than Jace's own, he would have no chance against them
Weeellll, Rhanerya just thinned the herd of Targareyn bastards by...quite a bit, thanks to Mysaria's talk with Rhae and their plan to put all the bastards together to try to earn Vermithor's respect/trust while locking them up with the 2nd largest dragon after Vhagar!!! Because that is EXACTLY what Rhae did. She heard Jace loud and clear. This whole plan was part "finding two dragon riders" and part "destroying all the bastards she can find" with Targaryen blood. And damned if she didn't succeed in that department. And what really gets me is I've watched a lot of RUclipsr's reactions and not ONE of them have even figured that part out!!! Oh sure, fans may want to hate on her. Has she made mistakes..Uh, yeeah. Can she be a bit thick at times? Sure, but aren't we all? But it sure as hell doesn't make Rhae stupid. Far from it. She's still learning and taking those lessons to heart. No one wants to credit Rhae with having some brains, I swear. It's getting fucking ridiculous. Am I a Rhanerya stan? No. There are things she has done that I haven't liked at all or disagreed with. I still like her but I'm starting to like her a little less. I just hope Jace is able to make peace with his mother before the s*** really hits the fan!!! And that scene with Vermithor firing on "all cylinders" while Rhaenerya just watches in fascination, awe, her face just stone cold but her eyes just slightly glittering with a bit of cruelty and pride towards Hugh...THAT disturbed that hell out of me. I don't know if I'm ready for next Sunday's Season 2 Finale of "House of the Dragons." 🐉🐉🐉🐲🐲🐲
The messed up part is that it's not Jace's brown hair that makes him a bastard, it's his parentage. If Rhaenyra really married Harwin Strong, he would have still had brown hair, but him being a bastard (and also not black like Laenor lol) is what makes the brown hair thing feel like a bastard sign post.
Literally this. People saying Jace is annoying makes me so mad, like they're not even trying to understand the point he's making. BOTH him and the queen are right here. Was he rude ? Yes.Was he kinda gross for calling these people mongrels ? Kinda very much. His point still stands though.
Lord Oscar was basically telling Daemon in a subtle way. I’m gonna bitch slap you in front of the Riverlords so they bend to my authority and you get an army. Smart, very smart.
I have a feeling Hugh will go against Rhaenyra later on and fight for the throne. He’s coming from a place of anger and vengeance. Ugh!!!! And he has one of the largest dragons.
It happens in the book, yes, but given how they changed several things about his character already in the show like the family, and etc I'm inclined to hold out hope@@padaoamandacha8036
The only thing is I get fully why she's doing this. She's literally in between a rock and a hard place honestly. Daemon isn't sending any letters back from Harrenhal on his progress and going against Vhagar as they were before was basically suicide. So I get the hand she was forced to play.
I've been told Silverwing is a relatively docile dragon, and she was friendly to strangers, which is probably the reason she didn't burn Ulf to a crisp. His heritage worked in his favor as well.
@@mygreentopiary What gets me is visually Silverwing, along with Vermithor and Vhagar, looked like the scariest of dragons, and here she is nosing Ulf like a giant puppy.
@@mygreentopiary She was Queen Alysanne's dragon and Alysanne not only took her all over Westeros on her and Jahaerys' royal visits, but she let all sorts of people get close to her to meet her. So she's the dragon most chill with people in general.
Honestly you have to shoutout Rhaena here. She knows she’s tried bonding with a dragon before and was almost killed by Seasmoke, yet she goes off on her own to claim a WILD, NEVER BEEN HEARD OF dragon in the Vale😂.
Pretty sure she'll succeed and i wonder how Nyra is going to react to this. I entrust you with the last dragon eggs AND my youngest sons and you run off to risk your life to claim a dragon ? That's very Daemon-like but damn.
Corlys doesn't think the dragon rider ability if you will came from him since no-one on his side of the family could ride. His children he believes got it from Rhaenys. Rhaenyra flexing at the end
@@nikitasingh0412 No, she can't. Dragons aren't slaves and can't be tamed. Dany and Jorah(Game of Thrones) respectively said that. They were right and so was Viserys. Dragons are intelligent creatures that can make their own choices.
Great reaction, Ulf and Thor (I forget his name) are now my favourites, love their dragons as well You are both now understanding how frustrating it was to wait for game of thrones each season and then on one season it was a sodding 3 year wait! Bring on the finale of season 2!
Hugh's mother is most likely Princess Saera Targaryen, who was the daughter of King Jaehaerys I. In Fire & Blood, Saera is described as tempestuous, demanding, and disobedient. After a scandal and years of fighting with King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, Princess Saera was sent to Oldtown. From there she fled across the Narrow Sea to Lys and started working in a pleasure house. Saera was known to have at least 3 bastard sons, but may have had more.
Okay, just tracking the armies...Jace secured the Starks coming from the North and possibly the Knights of the Vale (unclear if Lady Jane is going to hold up her end of the bargain since she got stiffed on a dragon), added to the Riverlords assembled by Daemon and all backed by the Valaryon fleet. Meanwhile, the Hightower host and Jason's Lanister army are coming in from the west to add to Cole's remaining forces coming from King's Landing, with the possibility of more coming from the Stormlands, though I don't think they've been mentioned since last season. Then you have the Triarchy which Aemond wanted to "find common cause" with. That's as many as 9 different armies on the move, and that's saying nothing about the dragons.
There's a couple others too. The Hightower army heading up from Oldtown is getting attacked by numerous Reach lords who are supporting Rhaenyra (including the Beesburys since they're still pissed at what happened to Lyonel in S1) and the Greyjoys are lurking on the Iron Islands waiting to see what side to jump in on.
Hugh's Mom might be one of King Jaehearys' (apparently he had 13 children!). Likely Princess Saera who was banished from court. Ulf's father is Baelon (Daemon and Viserys' father) who was brother to Saera so that makes them cousins. So, yeah, that blood is still pretty close--not too diluted. Adam of Hull from House Velaryon--although House Velaryon aren't dragonlords, they are of Valyria and the house have inter-married with Targaryens for centuries.
corlys’s house, house velaryon, are not dragon riders. only a few houses that come from old velaryia were actually able to ride dragons. one of them being the targaryens
Oscar Tully and Hugh are the MVPs this episode. Oscar for the mouthpiece, and Hugh for the power stance. Checking a dragon is so gangster. Also, that scene with Rhaenyra was so cold
If Rhaena is able to claim the wild dragon, Team Black would not only have seven dragons they could potentially get the 19,000 troops from the Vale Jane Arryn promised.
You guys quickly became my go to reactors when it comes to HotD. You both are very perceptive and intuitive, but also straight to the point. I’ve seen so much hate towards Jace this episode, it’s insane. I’m glad you understand why he had this conversation. Rhaenyra sees the short term benefits: empowering her army to win the war. But Jace is thinking further: when the war is over and her reign ended, what then? As long as she lives, he will remain an heir to the throne. But as soon as she dies, another bastard with a dragon and more Targaryenish appearance might start another war. It’s like with Viserys all over again. Everything went down the hill after his death. Assuming of course, Rheanyra gets to sit on the throne in the first place and won’t get stabbed in the back earlier. Then again, Mysaria also had a point: nobility has nothing to do with honor, so it’s a gamble really. And you may be correct about this blood linage mattering for the dragons. Adam is Leanor’s half-brother, so it might be why Seasmoke chose him. Hugh revealed this episode that he is the son of Jaehaerys’s daughter, so now he rides his grandfather’s dragon. And Ulf… well. There was an outrage among the book purists when he claimed a few episodes ago that he is the son of Baelon, Viserys’s and Daemon’s father. Baelon loved his wife dearly and never took another wife after Alyssa’s death. My take on that, is that Ulf doesn’t really know who’s son he really is, but he’s not entirely bullshitting people. He might also be Jaehaerys’s grandchild, just not necessarily from Baelon’s side. It was probably just a more thrilling tale to tell his drinking buddies. In either case, he would be now riding the dragon of her grandmother, Alysanne.
The tables FULLY turned this episode. Team Black now look unbeatable, but alas things in GOT/HOTD are seldom that straightforward. The finale has the potential to be one of the best episodes of either GOT/HOTD, to date, which will also set up season 3 perfectly 👌
25:14 - One of my favorite bits is how Aemond has to do the dragon rider equivalent of taking the shuttle to the far parking to to pick up his ride. All because Vhagar is too big to hang out in the Dragonpit. And Vhagar is thinking, "This fucking kid again. I just wanna sleep!"
@@Wesley_SmothermonNo she is not ,she literally goes to dragonstone next episode and has another chat with her bestie where she promises to surrender kingslanding to rhenerya
Feel really really bad for Jace. Yeah Rhaenyra has to because otherwise she would have to take herself, Jace, Baela, Addam, and Daemon and bum rush Vhaegar and at least half of those on her side would die. But for Jace, he sees that Rhaenrya was the named heir but that it was contest to the point of war by their own family and by other high born lords just because she is a woman. So he rightfully feels like he’s in the same position as heir and that once she dies people will contest it to the point of war because of his black hair, ESPECIALLY if there’s other silver haired basterds with dragons who look more Targaryen then he. Really feel for Jace. Do want to see that with Addam and Seasmoke there chances against Vhaegar without Silverwing and Vermithor were great but still risky because she does not want to lose Jace or Baela or herself.
@@umainebearman can't* and Corlys didn't even pay his illegitimate sons any mind, until as I said before, one of them saved his life and the other claimed a dragon. Plus, with his son and daughter dead, one of his granddaughters looking after Rhaenyra's children and the other declining his offer of inheritance, all he has left are his illegitimate sons.
Corlys is not Addam's dad. Corlys is his grandsire. Addam is Laenor's bastard. Corlys doesn't have Targaryen blood that is needed to bond with a dragon which Addam acquired from Laenor. Addam's mom was Corlys and Laenor's sidechick. There was a time when Laenor just reached puberty, Corlys brought his son to the seasnake's sidechick(Addam and Alyn's mom) in order for his son Laenor to get experience. It created a seed which is Addam. Laenor felt disgusted with it so his preference was turned towards men. So Alyn is like Addam's half brother and uncle.
To help clear up ulf and hugh relations ulf is the bastard son of baelon who is the father to daemon and viserys. Hugh on the other hand is the grandson of king jahaerys his mother was saera targaryen who is the sister to baelon as mentioned above baelon is saeras brother and father to daemon viserys and ulf. The dragon vermithor was king jahaerys's dragon. The one ulf finds named silverwig was alysannes dragon she was king jahaerys's wife.
It angers me to no end how willing everyone is to assume Rhae NEEDED more Dragon Riders. Let's be CLEAR, Syrax & Caraxes CAN take Vhagar on 2 v 1. Caraxes is the second most battle hardened Dragon is the realm behind Vhagar! And he's not THAT much smaller based on there flight together in season 1. Caraxes is just over half the size of Vhagar. He & Syrax CAN take the big girl without anymore Dragon's needed. Daeron is too far away for his dragon to count in the fight & Haelena hasn't ridden her Dragon once this season. She's no battle hardened Dragonrider & while Rhae might not be either, she's far more experienced with her Dragon & Haelena is with hers. So even if Aemond for some reason brought his sister to a fight with him against Daemon & Rhae she would lose too. Especially if Baela & Jace were there with Daemon & Rhae. That said, Jace planned for highborn people with Targ blood to ride dragons. They'd be more easily vetted & relied on to keep oaths. And they'd have no claim to the Throne to threaten Jace as heir. His plan was for LOYAL people to get on the Dragons like the commander of her guard. Not randoms whose loyalties can not be assured. They no NOTHING about Huge & Ulf. Addam was a lucky catch because his loyalty CAN be assured based on his father being Hand to Rhae & his beloved brother fighting for the blacks. Addam is the only one of the 2 new riders who can be truly relied on. Jace is pointing out how stupid it is to give lowborn people who've lived poor low lives dragons! Because now they'll have true power & may want to use said power to further their own gains. Huge knocked a guy out to get food in ep 6. That guy probably had family too! Huge's daughter is dead & his wife doesn't support his decisions. Who knows what this guy's loyalties are! And Ulf we know virtually nothing about. Does he have family? It doesn't appear so. Just bar friends hyping him up. Hell he probably agreed to go be bait in King's Landing just to show off to his buddies. Where does his allegiance lie? We don't know! Now Huge has the second biggest dragon & Ulf has a fairly large beast himself who is very close to Big V. Rhae should be backing up my boy Jace. He's holding it down & is one of the most important black members. He got then the Twins, secured the Starks, Presented a plan to get LOYAL dragon riders when it became clear Rhae didn't want to reconcile with Daemon yet. Councils Rhae to reconcile because he knows they NEED Daemon. He correctly chides Rhae for being stupid & sneaking into King's Landing & almost dying. He correctly advises Rhae NOT to go to Rook's Rest. Jace is on point. He should be the one Rhae goes to privately NOT Lady M! Now.. y'all did better than most reactors at catching Jace's true arguments. But I think you over valued his insecurities. YES, he's worried about his own claim & his legitimacy. But he's not blinded by it, his plans & his critiques are still smart & valid. They're not aimless negativity.
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Keep in mind Larys is definitely not on Aemond's side rn. I think Larys probably believed what Jasper said but he wouldn't want to give Aemond an advantage. If Aemond is strong and winning then that means he and Aegon are at a disadvantage
"Your brother has taken a dargo... and is going into battle where he will probably be burned alive!" "ah ok, I am salt and sea, bye" The writing has flaws.
@@that.ll_do_pig idk id probably change the scene entirely and have addam tell alyn instead and then alyn says he’s worried for his brother and addam reassures him. but it is what it is.
That is not how that scene went down. Corlys told Alyn that his brother has claimed a dragon, and was hinting at Alyn trying to claim one as well, since it may be in the blood, to which he refused saying, "I am of salt and sea," meaning he has no interest in it.
Never thought I could hate someone more than Christen Cole or Aemond but , I mute my computer or t.v every time that White Worm is around . She's a snake and Rhaenyra will regret this trust she has in her, (shades of Little Finger). She has the gules to question why Rhaenyra should trust Adam when she was just working with the greens a few months ago until Larys burned her house and Rhaenyra found her a$$ in jail where Daemond left her. Corlys has two maybe more kids with a woman and he never found out anything about her and he can't even acknowledge the kids.
Aegon dragon is not dead but she will not fly again lost a wing. They still have halaenas dragon and daerons dragon on the green a long with vahgar. The blacks have vermithor, silverwing, rhaenyras dragon, seasmoke, baelas dragon, Jac's dragon, daemons dragon, and if rhaena gets sheepsteeler.
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At the 2:08 mark - Addam of Hull didn't tell Rhaenyra who his father is because it is still a "secret" between Coryls, Allyn, & Addam. Rhaenys knew the truth, but she also realized it was not her place to say anything, especially to the general public about Coryls' private issues. Until Coryls acknowledges his sons & asks the Queen to legitimize them, they are just lowborn bastards (for now). That is why Rhaenys told him that they shouldn't be hidden away but rather raised in Driftmark with honor so that one of them can be named as his heir now that his two "true born" children are dead. Also it is very likely that Coryls has some Targaryen in his heritage. Back in Old Valeria & also after Ageon's conquest of Westeros, both houses of Velaryon & Targaryen intermingled with each other through marriages & affairs. Just because you have Targaryen blood doesn't automatically mean you are capable or worthy to be a dragonrider.
By the way, Ulf didn't step on a dragon egg. He just stepped in the membrane that surrounds the clutch of eggs, sort of like a protective nest. Vermithor & Silverwing are a mated pair, as their former riders were King Jaeherys & Queen Alysanne. They were the two dragons that Cregan Stark mentioned in episode 1, when he told Jace about how they refused to fly beyond The Wall. Silverwing is the mother of Syrax, Rhaenyra's dragon. Here's the status of dragon count so far. The Greens have 3 that are able to fight - Vhagar, DreamFyre, & Tessarion. Sunfyre is still injured & unable to fly. While The Blacks have Syrax, Vermax, Monndancer, Vermithor, Silverwing, Caraxes, & maybe Sheep Stealer (if Rhaena is able to claim it).
You guys were spot on about lineage and blood. Vermithor was Hugh’s grandfather’s dragon!
24:07 Ulf stepped on the cocoon where eggs stay. He didn't break any, thank goodness!
they are not fragile like that
About Hugh, in the book it's not mentioned who his parents are. But the show mentioned his mother to be sister to Viserys and Daemon's dad, Baelon, and that she was a wh*re in a pleasure house. In the books King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne had a daughter Saera Targaryen. She was rebellious and had several sex scandals. She was eventually sent to Old Town to join the Faith of the Seven to become septa but she escapes from there and go to Essos where she lives her life in a pleasure house (it's said that she even wore the Septa's dress while "working"). She had few bastards. Some of them even came to Great Council in Harrenhal, the election for Jaehaerys' heir where Jaehaerys declared Viserys to be his heir based on the voting. So Hugh is the bastard son of Saera Targaryen.
Jaehaerys was so fed up that he even admitted she's a wh*re when Queen Alysanne spoke for her. They tried to lock her up in Red Keep but it didn't work, she escaped, tried to steal a dragon.
Hugh refered to Baelon as his mother's brother and not a half-brother.
So Vermithor was Hugh's grandfather Jaehaerys Targaryen's dragon first. Now his grandson's.
The actor who plays Hugh and the show runner confirmed in an interview that Saera Targaryen is High's mum.
You two are like the only people who somewhat understand the point Jace was trying to make
Jace has been harassed by the greens and their supporters through his whole childhood because of his parentage. Having his own dragon, Vermax, was a reminder of his identity, that he actually is a legitimate Targaryen. But if any bastard could claim a dragon, what does that make him? He also has been saying through out this whole season how insecure he is about his legitimaty and how he wants to fight for it so he is seen worthy for the throne, so it's no surprise that he finally brought it up.
What if those new riders just decide to switch up on them and want to have their own claim to the throne? What if Rhaenyra dies, Jace is her heir, will those men in her council and the rest of the realm that are loyal to Rhaenyra wanna fight for him?
Those bastards have more Targaryen features than Jace and who is to say that the realm won't change their loyalty because of that.
Let's not forget the fact that they now got dragons that are way larger than Jace's own, he would have no chance against them
Definitely not the only ones from what I've seen, but many didn't quite get it.
Weeellll, Rhanerya just thinned the herd of Targareyn bastards by...quite a bit, thanks to Mysaria's talk with Rhae and their plan to put all the bastards together to try to earn Vermithor's respect/trust while locking them up with the 2nd largest dragon after Vhagar!!! Because that is EXACTLY what Rhae did. She heard Jace loud and clear. This whole plan was part "finding two dragon riders" and part "destroying all the bastards she can find" with Targaryen blood. And damned if she didn't succeed in that department. And what really gets me is I've watched a lot of RUclipsr's reactions and not ONE of them have even figured that part out!!! Oh sure, fans may want to hate on her. Has she made mistakes..Uh, yeeah. Can she be a bit thick at times? Sure, but aren't we all? But it sure as hell doesn't make Rhae stupid. Far from it. She's still learning and taking those lessons to heart. No one wants to credit Rhae with having some brains, I swear. It's getting fucking ridiculous. Am I a Rhanerya stan? No. There are things she has done that I haven't liked at all or disagreed with. I still like her but I'm starting to like her a little less. I just hope Jace is able to make peace with his mother before the s*** really hits the fan!!! And that scene with Vermithor firing on "all cylinders" while Rhaenerya just watches in fascination, awe, her face just stone cold but her eyes just slightly glittering with a bit of cruelty and pride towards Hugh...THAT disturbed that hell out of me. I don't know if I'm ready for next Sunday's Season 2 Finale of "House of the Dragons." 🐉🐉🐉🐲🐲🐲
The messed up part is that it's not Jace's brown hair that makes him a bastard, it's his parentage. If Rhaenyra really married Harwin Strong, he would have still had brown hair, but him being a bastard (and also not black like Laenor lol) is what makes the brown hair thing feel like a bastard sign post.
Literally this. People saying Jace is annoying makes me so mad, like they're not even trying to understand the point he's making. BOTH him and the queen are right here. Was he rude ? Yes.Was he kinda gross for calling these people mongrels ? Kinda very much. His point still stands though.
Lord Oscar was basically telling Daemon in a subtle way. I’m gonna bitch slap you in front of the Riverlords so they bend to my authority and you get an army. Smart, very smart.
The "Will you have our army or not?" soft question but PACKED a ton of punches was brilliant!
Rhaenyra's Dragons: "Come on Grandma we not gonna Jump you"
*they jump grandma*
The people in charge of the dragons sounds deserves a serious raise.
Each dragon has his own unique sounds, and they all sound so fucking good.
22:55 - Vermithor's like: "Not the best roar, but we'll work on that - we'll get you that golden buzzer👍".
I agree with Jace tho that's is a very bad plan to give the 2nd biggest dragon in the world to a random commoner from KL XD
I have a feeling Hugh will go against Rhaenyra later on and fight for the throne. He’s coming from a place of anger and vengeance. Ugh!!!! And he has one of the largest dragons.
It happens in the book, yes, but given how they changed several things about his character already in the show like the family, and etc I'm inclined to hold out hope@@padaoamandacha8036
The only thing is I get fully why she's doing this. She's literally in between a rock and a hard place honestly. Daemon isn't sending any letters back from Harrenhal on his progress and going against Vhagar as they were before was basically suicide. So I get the hand she was forced to play.
No vetting process. 😂
@padaoamandacha8036 in the books it it called the rebellion of the bastards and yes it is both high and ulf
I've been told Silverwing is a relatively docile dragon, and she was friendly to strangers, which is probably the reason she didn't burn Ulf to a crisp. His heritage worked in his favor as well.
I read somewhere that Silverwing loves human company. She's the golden retriever of the dragons! 😊
@@mygreentopiary Yesss she was like damn Vermithor is that all you left ? Aight i'll take this hooman 🥰
@@mygreentopiary What gets me is visually Silverwing, along with Vermithor and Vhagar, looked like the scariest of dragons, and here she is nosing Ulf like a giant puppy.
@@mygreentopiary She was Queen Alysanne's dragon and Alysanne not only took her all over Westeros on her and Jahaerys' royal visits, but she let all sorts of people get close to her to meet her. So she's the dragon most chill with people in general.
Oh shit that means corlys was fraternizing at work and shit. Out here fucking on the job lol.
I have a feeling the dragon tamers bailed right before Vermithor's lunchtime as a laugh...
Honestly you have to shoutout Rhaena here. She knows she’s tried bonding with a dragon before and was almost killed by Seasmoke, yet she goes off on her own to claim a WILD, NEVER BEEN HEARD OF dragon in the Vale😂.
Pretty sure she'll succeed and i wonder how Nyra is going to react to this. I entrust you with the last dragon eggs AND my youngest sons and you run off to risk your life to claim a dragon ? That's very Daemon-like but damn.
I thought Alicent was going to drown herself but she was just going for a swim because she's the queen of fishes🐠
Corlys doesn't think the dragon rider ability if you will came from him since no-one on his side of the family could ride. His children he believes got it from Rhaenys. Rhaenyra flexing at the end
"The idea.....
that we control the Dragons...
is an ILLUSION."
Viserys said that, right?
@@dwnkaomwn3953 YES!
Rhaenyra can control the dragons though
@@nikitasingh0412 No, she can't. Dragons aren't slaves and can't be tamed. Dany and Jorah(Game of Thrones) respectively said that. They were right and so was Viserys. Dragons are intelligent creatures that can make their own choices.
God this is going to become the new " if you think this has a happy ending" shit all over again.
Silverwing pulled a legend of korra: you amuse me… I ill make you mine
Great reaction, Ulf and Thor (I forget his name) are now my favourites, love their dragons as well
You are both now understanding how frustrating it was to wait for game of thrones each season and then on one season it was a sodding 3 year wait!
Bring on the finale of season 2!
Hugh's mother is most likely Princess Saera Targaryen, who was the daughter of King Jaehaerys I. In Fire & Blood, Saera is described as tempestuous, demanding, and disobedient. After a scandal and years of fighting with King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, Princess Saera was sent to Oldtown. From there she fled across the Narrow Sea to Lys and started working in a pleasure house. Saera was known to have at least 3 bastard sons, but may have had more.
I believe he confirmed it in an interview.
@@Blinkptx He did, as did the show runner Ryan Condal. I saw it shortly after I posted the comment. :)
The greens do still have Heleana's dragon, Dreamfyre but Heleana doesnt really seem able to cope with... day to day living let alone combat.
Vermithor said Ight lil homie got some heart
Okay, just tracking the armies...Jace secured the Starks coming from the North and possibly the Knights of the Vale (unclear if Lady Jane is going to hold up her end of the bargain since she got stiffed on a dragon), added to the Riverlords assembled by Daemon and all backed by the Valaryon fleet. Meanwhile, the Hightower host and Jason's Lanister army are coming in from the west to add to Cole's remaining forces coming from King's Landing, with the possibility of more coming from the Stormlands, though I don't think they've been mentioned since last season. Then you have the Triarchy which Aemond wanted to "find common cause" with. That's as many as 9 different armies on the move, and that's saying nothing about the dragons.
I really hope they end this season with a bang. Perhaps another crazy dragon fight scene or perhaps a full out clash of armies and dragons.
There's a couple others too. The Hightower army heading up from Oldtown is getting attacked by numerous Reach lords who are supporting Rhaenyra (including the Beesburys since they're still pissed at what happened to Lyonel in S1) and the Greyjoys are lurking on the Iron Islands waiting to see what side to jump in on.
Hugh's Mom might be one of King Jaehearys' (apparently he had 13 children!). Likely Princess Saera who was banished from court. Ulf's father is Baelon (Daemon and Viserys' father) who was brother to Saera so that makes them cousins. So, yeah, that blood is still pretty close--not too diluted.
Adam of Hull from House Velaryon--although House Velaryon aren't dragonlords, they are of Valyria and the house have inter-married with Targaryens for centuries.
corlys’s house, house velaryon, are not dragon riders. only a few houses that come from old velaryia were actually able to ride dragons. one of them being the targaryens
Oscar Tully and Hugh are the MVPs this episode. Oscar for the mouthpiece, and Hugh for the power stance. Checking a dragon is so gangster.
Also, that scene with Rhaenyra was so cold
You guys were so funny today good job
Mad: she’s leaving?
Me: a fireball ain’t got no name on it shorty lol I’d be out too.
Daemon isn’t all that vicious. You just need to whisper “king” in his ear and rub his belly a few times. He will soften right up 😂.
I have to say giving the greatest power to complete strangers is not a smart idea.
If Rhaena is able to claim the wild dragon, Team Black would not only have seven dragons they could potentially get the 19,000 troops from the Vale Jane Arryn promised.
You guys quickly became my go to reactors when it comes to HotD. You both are very perceptive and intuitive, but also straight to the point. I’ve seen so much hate towards Jace this episode, it’s insane. I’m glad you understand why he had this conversation.
Rhaenyra sees the short term benefits: empowering her army to win the war. But Jace is thinking further: when the war is over and her reign ended, what then? As long as she lives, he will remain an heir to the throne. But as soon as she dies, another bastard with a dragon and more Targaryenish appearance might start another war. It’s like with Viserys all over again. Everything went down the hill after his death. Assuming of course, Rheanyra gets to sit on the throne in the first place and won’t get stabbed in the back earlier. Then again, Mysaria also had a point: nobility has nothing to do with honor, so it’s a gamble really.
And you may be correct about this blood linage mattering for the dragons. Adam is Leanor’s half-brother, so it might be why Seasmoke chose him. Hugh revealed this episode that he is the son of Jaehaerys’s daughter, so now he rides his grandfather’s dragon. And Ulf… well. There was an outrage among the book purists when he claimed a few episodes ago that he is the son of Baelon, Viserys’s and Daemon’s father. Baelon loved his wife dearly and never took another wife after Alyssa’s death. My take on that, is that Ulf doesn’t really know who’s son he really is, but he’s not entirely bullshitting people. He might also be Jaehaerys’s grandchild, just not necessarily from Baelon’s side. It was probably just a more thrilling tale to tell his drinking buddies. In either case, he would be now riding the dragon of her grandmother, Alysanne.
The tables FULLY turned this episode. Team Black now look unbeatable, but alas things in GOT/HOTD are seldom that straightforward. The finale has the potential to be one of the best episodes of either GOT/HOTD, to date, which will also set up season 3 perfectly 👌
I'm not sure if the writers did not look it up, but Corlys does have some targaryen ancestry.
In the book. They may have just changed it for the adaptation.
Not the shrek quote damn I love yall
Healeana has a dragon named Dreamfyre who we saw in the dragon pitwhen Aemond was little and went in to try to find a dragon
Oh shit my dawg Tully talking his shit. That's big Oscar not the little
25:14 - One of my favorite bits is how Aemond has to do the dragon rider equivalent of taking the shuttle to the far parking to to pick up his ride. All because Vhagar is too big to hang out in the Dragonpit.
And Vhagar is thinking, "This fucking kid again. I just wanna sleep!"
3:45 I think Larys believes it but won't tell Aemond because it could ruin him and Larys probably wants that
House Bracken got justice!!!!
Common Bittersteel W
Daemon got put in-between a rock and a hard place
@@septicshock5663 thank you my friend.
@@Randomyoutubecommenter Muppet Tully really outplayed him
Next episode gonna be 🔥 go Team Black 🖤
I think Queen Alicent is at God's Eye Lake. She got there early for the show. xD
It would take about a week of travel, she said that she wanted to go into the Kingswood which is south of kings landing while the gods eye is north
@@lucasbelmonte2832 I will see you next week. They been doing a lot of fast past moments. Little time jumps. I think she is there but we will see.
@@Wesley_Smothermon No. She's not there. She's in the lake of Kingswood.
@@Wesley_SmothermonNo she is not ,she literally goes to dragonstone next episode and has another chat with her bestie where she promises to surrender kingslanding to rhenerya
@@drrohanjacobdont spoil
What sad is all these dragons are sons like Vermithor and Silverwing and grandsons like Caraxes Seasmoke Meyles of Veghar .
Feel really really bad for Jace. Yeah Rhaenyra has to because otherwise she would have to take herself, Jace, Baela, Addam, and Daemon and bum rush Vhaegar and at least half of those on her side would die. But for Jace, he sees that Rhaenrya was the named heir but that it was contest to the point of war by their own family and by other high born lords just because she is a woman. So he rightfully feels like he’s in the same position as heir and that once she dies people will contest it to the point of war because of his black hair, ESPECIALLY if there’s other silver haired basterds with dragons who look more Targaryen then he. Really feel for Jace. Do want to see that with Addam and Seasmoke there chances against Vhaegar without Silverwing and Vermithor were great but still risky because she does not want to lose Jace or Baela or herself.
Hugh is the son of saera targaryen and saera was the daughter of king jaeherys and queen alysanne
Yep! And Ulf's dad is King Viserys I and Daemon's Dad, Baelon so Ulf and Hugh are cousins!
One of Corlys' sons saves his life while the other claims a dragon and all the latter gets for it is a "well done"? Pitiful.
That's all Adam wanted, a small bit of acknowledgement. Also Corlys is the hand, he can exactly say "yeah these are my bastard kids "
@@umainebearman can't* and Corlys didn't even pay his illegitimate sons any mind, until as I said before, one of them saved his life and the other claimed a dragon. Plus, with his son and daughter dead, one of his granddaughters looking after Rhaenyra's children and the other declining his offer of inheritance, all he has left are his illegitimate sons.
Corlys is not Addam's dad. Corlys is his grandsire. Addam is Laenor's bastard. Corlys doesn't have Targaryen blood that is needed to bond with a dragon which Addam acquired from Laenor.
Addam's mom was Corlys and Laenor's sidechick. There was a time when Laenor just reached puberty, Corlys brought his son to the seasnake's sidechick(Addam and Alyn's mom) in order for his son Laenor to get experience. It created a seed which is Addam. Laenor felt disgusted with it so his preference was turned towards men. So Alyn is like Addam's half brother and uncle.
His father is not the reason he can bond with dragons but also Adam saying his father is of no consequence was because he was always ignored by him.
Rhaenyra the chosen one
To help clear up ulf and hugh relations ulf is the bastard son of baelon who is the father to daemon and viserys. Hugh on the other hand is the grandson of king jahaerys his mother was saera targaryen who is the sister to baelon as mentioned above baelon is saeras brother and father to daemon viserys and ulf. The dragon vermithor was king jahaerys's dragon. The one ulf finds named silverwig was alysannes dragon she was king jahaerys's wife.
It angers me to no end how willing everyone is to assume Rhae NEEDED more Dragon Riders. Let's be CLEAR, Syrax & Caraxes CAN take Vhagar on 2 v 1. Caraxes is the second most battle hardened Dragon is the realm behind Vhagar! And he's not THAT much smaller based on there flight together in season 1. Caraxes is just over half the size of Vhagar. He & Syrax CAN take the big girl without anymore Dragon's needed. Daeron is too far away for his dragon to count in the fight & Haelena hasn't ridden her Dragon once this season. She's no battle hardened Dragonrider & while Rhae might not be either, she's far more experienced with her Dragon & Haelena is with hers. So even if Aemond for some reason brought his sister to a fight with him against Daemon & Rhae she would lose too. Especially if Baela & Jace were there with Daemon & Rhae.
That said, Jace planned for highborn people with Targ blood to ride dragons. They'd be more easily vetted & relied on to keep oaths. And they'd have no claim to the Throne to threaten Jace as heir. His plan was for LOYAL people to get on the Dragons like the commander of her guard. Not randoms whose loyalties can not be assured. They no NOTHING about Huge & Ulf. Addam was a lucky catch because his loyalty CAN be assured based on his father being Hand to Rhae & his beloved brother fighting for the blacks. Addam is the only one of the 2 new riders who can be truly relied on. Jace is pointing out how stupid it is to give lowborn people who've lived poor low lives dragons! Because now they'll have true power & may want to use said power to further their own gains. Huge knocked a guy out to get food in ep 6. That guy probably had family too! Huge's daughter is dead & his wife doesn't support his decisions. Who knows what this guy's loyalties are! And Ulf we know virtually nothing about. Does he have family? It doesn't appear so. Just bar friends hyping him up. Hell he probably agreed to go be bait in King's Landing just to show off to his buddies. Where does his allegiance lie? We don't know!
Now Huge has the second biggest dragon & Ulf has a fairly large beast himself who is very close to Big V. Rhae should be backing up my boy Jace. He's holding it down & is one of the most important black members. He got then the Twins, secured the Starks, Presented a plan to get LOYAL dragon riders when it became clear Rhae didn't want to reconcile with Daemon yet. Councils Rhae to reconcile because he knows they NEED Daemon. He correctly chides Rhae for being stupid & sneaking into King's Landing & almost dying. He correctly advises Rhae NOT to go to Rook's Rest. Jace is on point. He should be the one Rhae goes to privately NOT Lady M!
Now.. y'all did better than most reactors at catching Jace's true arguments. But I think you over valued his insecurities. YES, he's worried about his own claim & his legitimacy. But he's not blinded by it, his plans & his critiques are still smart & valid. They're not aimless negativity.
Sorry this is completely unrelated but I wanted to let you know some things about Legend of Vox Machina/CR. I was rewatching your reaction videos. First, season 3 of the animation series is returning Oct 3. I'm looking forward to your coverage. Second, they have started a new series for campaign 3 live action show called critical role abridged. They understand that most people don't have 4-5 hours to watch the new episodes so their Lore Keeper Dani Carr and Marisha are releasing edited versions that are about 1 hour long. It keeps all the juicy points, fights, and dialogue but cuts out the adding up dice and looking up spells. If you want to get into a new campaign that is small enough for easy consumption, I recommend checking it out.
Keep in mind Larys is definitely not on Aemond's side rn. I think Larys probably believed what Jasper said but he wouldn't want to give Aemond an advantage. If Aemond is strong and winning then that means he and Aegon are at a disadvantage
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I also wanted to recommend you to watch the two parts of Duna if you have not already done so.
React please on the preview / trailer of HOTD S2 Finale / Episode 8.
Just warning everyone apparently there has been a leak on episode 8. If you don’t want to know what happens don’t watch. The eggs are safe!
The Dragonstone petting zoo sucks.
Have you seen Inside Out 2 or not yet ?
"Your brother has taken a dargo... and is going into battle where he will probably be burned alive!"
"ah ok, I am salt and sea, bye"
The writing has flaws.
not really. a dragon claimed him what’s his brother gonna do? lmao.
What would have been better writing in your opinion? Genuinely asking out of curiosity. 😊
@@that.ll_do_pig idk id probably change the scene entirely and have addam tell alyn instead and then alyn says he’s worried for his brother and addam reassures him. but it is what it is.
@@that.ll_do_pig To not be so on the nose about making Alyn the heir to driftmark.
That is not how that scene went down. Corlys told Alyn that his brother has claimed a dragon, and was hinting at Alyn trying to claim one as well, since it may be in the blood, to which he refused saying, "I am of salt and sea," meaning he has no interest in it.
Never thought I could hate someone more than Christen Cole or Aemond but , I mute my computer or t.v every time that White Worm is around . She's a snake and Rhaenyra will regret this trust she has in her, (shades of Little Finger). She has the gules to question why Rhaenyra should trust Adam when she was just working with the greens a few months ago until Larys burned her house and Rhaenyra found her a$$ in jail where Daemond left her. Corlys has two maybe more kids with a woman and he never found out anything about her and he can't even acknowledge the kids.
bro did u even read the book?
@@Playradise No I have not read this book but I have watched the show.
@@brendastevenson8521 so you dont know sht, myseria stays loyal to Rhaenyra until the end. So shut the fk up
I really hope Jace doesn’t do something stupid that could get himself killed and/or mess up the chances of winning the war all because of his jealousy
Aegon dragon is not dead but she will not fly again lost a wing. They still have halaenas dragon and daerons dragon on the green a long with vahgar. The blacks have vermithor, silverwing, rhaenyras dragon, seasmoke, baelas dragon, Jac's dragon, daemons dragon, and if rhaena gets sheepsteeler.