Wyatt Booth her stories seem very tonally offkiliter, I don't see that as a flaw but I'm not sure if a western network would wanna fund a series like that, with that said, I really wanna live in the world where Pastel Defender Heliotrope was a TV series
It’s actually really impressive that she did most of the art for the comic with a mouse. Some of it might not look that good like the faces but some of the environmental stuff is really amazing.
this is EXTREMELY surreal for me. I was a member of the kamishibai makers community from 1998 until it mostly died off in around 2010, 2011 maybe? JDR has always been.... interesting.... and when Otakuworld went pay-for-subscription in like 2002ish, a lot of us were against it since our stories were being hosted there for free until that point and we didn't want them behind a paywall. A good number of us wrote emails protesting, and got some GOLDEN replies back from JDR. I personally got one telling me I was the reason the internet and free speech was dying. I was 16 at the time, and she was .... in her 40s, sending a rambly accusatory email to a teenager about their wannabe-anime stories. Quite a lot of us moved to our own sites and forums, myself later hosting a forum for kamishibai creators away from OW and with the assistance of another long time creator (who has since passed away, RIP Kris). JDR's husband, Stephen, was always nice to us as baby weebs who liked to use the program he and JDR made, and genuinely tried to keep OW alive as well as try to make the changes we requested for the program. I think when she went off from being a regular contributor for OW and left it mostly for Stephen to deal with, a good amount of her original readers for unicorn jelly came from OW. I didn't personally follow it after the first few strips, but sometimes I'd check in and see what kinda crazy stuff she was getting into. She never ceases to surprise me. Seeing ANYONE talk about OW and kamishibai, even in passing, is wild, much less show the original pastel defender heliotrope in all its glory (it was really impressive when the program first launched!). It's such a niche bit of internet ephemera that I've never seen anyone outside the tiny pocket of creators who participated in it even mention it. I met a lot of my best friends through kamishibai and making stories for OW. So thanks for giving it some screen time, even if it is just in the context of weird internet lolcow JDR!!
That's wild. I didn't know about Kamishibai until I found the original PDH, I didn't know it had a creator community around it at all. I guess a lot must have gone on around OtakuWorld since I understand it was a fairly popular website for the time.
it definitely was popular in its heyday!! Kiss dolls were the biggest attraction but kamishibai was pretty up there at first .... but the accessibility of flash kinda killed it (plus the original application went a long time without any updates). JDR definitely got most of her original viewership from OW, it was pretty hoppin over there at one point.
@@BenSaintComix JDR seemed like one of the bigger webcomics creators of the time, often mentioned in the same breath as Sluggy Freelance, It's Walky! (based on a series of "Click-n-Play" videogames, dontcha' know), Nukees et al. Even before I had the internet I saw mentions of Happypuppy.com on British TV, she made a mint off selling that. Otakuworld had some free games to download, too. I remember one called Neophyte: Koplio's Story, which looked like a pro game from the SNES era. There was another, far more basic, sidescrolling platform shooter, which I may actually still have tucked away on an external HD (via a CD-R from a box of floppies). All of the shooter's music and sound effects were stored in folders, so I pillaged it for my own games for years.
Today is the first day of the rest of your life. From this point forward, your life will be divided into the time before this moment, and the time after. *Author’s note: Then was now and later will be soon soon, while soon will be now soon.
"I feel the same way I do when I watch Ancient Aliens, which is scared because I know it's true" may be one of the greatest lines Munchy has ever birth.
Short Version: Jennifer's recursive fanfiction is actually 'highly controversial' within the MLP community. I wished you covered it, because it's fairly insane. Her works are accused of being misanthropic, and she often spars with the comment section on every story. Long Version: The Conversion Bureau is a plot where the ponies from My Little Pony come to Earth and turn every human into a pony with a magic barrier and potions. They erase the human's identity and remove all the 'barbaric instincts' that make humans hate and war. Everyone is happy to be ponies. People who didn't like the tone wrote stories about humanity fighting back and kicking xenophobic pony ass. Friendship is Optimal is a plot about the Singularity. Humans upload their brains into an AI based on the pony leader Celestia, where they live in a digital utopia. Earth and eventually the galaxy is consumed by grey goo to fuel the intelligence. Life is perfect and free will is questionable. People who didn't like it wrote stories about humans fighting against pony Skynet. There's a lengthy article on TV Tropes about the original fanfics and Reitz, 'Chatoyance'. Basically, Jennifer's stories tend to be seen as misanthropic and she argues with people all the time. She seems not to like men. It's a good thing that the ponies wipe out the human race and all evidence of our existence. It's a shame; her earlier work seems kinda brilliant. She seems bitter and miserable now. I only learned about her from a TV tropes binge, and her page isn't flattering. I wonder what caused her to give up original webcomics and dive down the rabbit hole.
That's really funny, given that the 'antagonist' of Boppin', her game, the story revolves around a happy bunny who brings multiversal peace by kidnapping all the villains. The heroes of these various universes come to the main characters for help by discreetly freeing them.
I love AI singularity stories in general, and Frienship Is Optimal is my all-time favorite of its kind. The only one close to it is The Metamorphosis Of Prime Intellect, which is about an AI controlled universe with nothing but Asimov's Laws to limit it, and the immortal humans doing anything they can think of to keep themselves entertained. I recommend Friendship is Optimal wholeheartedly, and The Metamorphosis Of Prime Intellect with a massive warning about gore and depravity for shock value. If there are more stories like those, I'd be glad to hear about them.
She came up with new PHYSICS for her stories? This is some JRR Tolkein level world building. I feel she was the kind of artist who is really good at drawing scenery but not so much people. But again, drawing people isn't easy with a mouse. I get that as a person she's kinda an ass from what I've gathered from the comments but as a storyteller she's actually pretty good. I feel the weeb stuff makes people think it's "cringey" and ignore all the world building.
She derived her inspiration from *really* american art styles. Her aping of anime is surprisingly well integrated considering how most people did it at the time. But then again, when Robert Crumb tries to copy Rumiko Takahashi, his characters will end up looking like blowtorched cabbage patch dolls.
@@rubyy.7374 Nobody. Who asked for you to ask me who asked. Nobody. If social validation is the only reason why you do anything, then I really pity you.
Shortly before it tanked, I was a composer working on JDR's failed game, titled... 'Kokoro Wish'. I'd been hired for *way* too little pay (none of which I saw anyways), and was just kind of turned loose to create... whatever. Correspondence about the project went dead after a while, and when I checked the development page there was just a bitter message from JDR about everyone failing her. I don't recall whether it was specifically the 'Kokoro Wish comic' (which I didn't even know was a meme until now) or not, but I remember that same energy pretty keenly. What was the game about? I honestly have no idea. Whatever else was in the plan I think there was supposed to be a social simulation aspect to it and an oddly specific and high-priority focus on using a hypercube as an inventory system, but the *very* early development build that I 'played' was just a walking simulator. For musical direction, I was instructed to download the Kamishibai player and a few select stories, and take inspiration from that. I never got any feedback or more specific direction than an apparent indifference towards anything I created. I think that's what really killed the game; nobody had a clear idea of what they were supposed to be doing, what sort of timeline we were working on, whether our work was on target, or even what the finished product was supposed to be. Kokoro Wish was all a perfect creation in her own mind, unknowable to the rest of us. On a more personal note, Eldenath is a friend of mine. Albeit over a distance, I witnessed some very troubled times in that household. I can look back now with more charity than I had back then, and say that I believe JDR is a deeply wounded individual, and that metaphorically speaking she was bleeding profusely at that time.
"While drunk, he gives the sex doll the Omnipitor." Oh no "The doll comes to life and acts like a child." _oh no_ "The doll loves him and calls him papa." *_OH NO_*
tbh i really want one of these based on Ken Penders, the absolute god who created then destroyed Sonic the Hedgehog, The longest running american comic series to never be relaunched. we got racist depictions of native Americans, gross oversexualizations of underage characters with weird human proportions, implied incest, giant wars, political drama with tails father staging a coupe against the monarchy, and ancient gods taking over the world. honestly pretty based. and then when he was fired and replaced by an actual good writer who cared about the source material, sued Sega and Archie for the rights to his characters and somehow won forcing a reboot and eventual cancellation destroying the 25 year old partnership of 2 major companies (by allegedly stealing the original contracts he signed) all culminating in his new Comic THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES with no editors to tell him no we get his unabated autism in all its glory about Knuckles and his family with characters he now owns like "evil sonic" while sega cant do a damn thing about it
Don't forget to mention the fact that he sued Sega and BioWare over the echidna characters in Sonic Chronicles, and because of that lawsuit we'll never see a sequel or continuation to the sonic chronicles storyline ever again
This woman is the absolute definition of an outsider artist. Ahead of her time in many ways. Sad that she never got widespread recognition for her comments and that she is instead known for some stupid meme comic. Her work is oddly similar to Darger's Realm of the Unreal too in terms of scope and the amount of passion that clearly went into them. I bet we'll see Jennifer's work in a museum someday, mark my words
Darger's Realms of the Unreal is probably more disjointed, if anything. His art is where it shine, not the story telling (but even his story-telling is outsider as hell). I'd say JDR has a better chance of having a popular resurgence in her lifetime. I think were she to get a good enough backing and then agent she could sell compendiums, easy. Weirder things have happened.
@@Juice0109 im on neither side i just hope she isnt getting messed with constantly like chris chan did even tho chris chan was kinda an asshole he still dosnt deserve all of how he is treated no one does.
Her early work (especially Pastel) looks like if someone looked at Evangelion and said "That's some pussy shit, I'll show you real tear jerking high concept confusing sci-fi with sexuality related drama"
I'm only 15 minutes in and I can already tell that this is going to be a Tails Gets Trolled situation where the story is unironically really cool and interesting.
I was a frequent user of the Unicorn Jelly Forums when that comic was still being created back in my college days, and I even bought the two printed books of the whole series, and still have them. JDR is pretty great at writing, IMO. Fun fact, Fuschia coming back as a data ghost must have been inspired by the forums. There was a popular user who had a pet theory about death. He hoped that, since technology will always get increasingly advanced, that someone in the future would make it their duty to go back in time to the point of death for everyone, and "save" people's consciousness as data. It's a wild idea, but you can't disprove it.
@@sebastiansanfunas4674 I stopped frequenting the forums a bit after Pastel Defender Heliotrope ended. It looks like you can use the wayback machine it find it. The website was forums.unicornjelly.com the only non-JDR users I remember are Eldenath, one of her spouses, and Alfador, some student like me, I think. Both were very cool people. The thing was, I simply had a ton going on in my life at the time, and didnt keep up with the forums. I kind of feel bad that I stopped. Man, this is making me want to reread my copies of Unicorn Jelly. JDR even did a little doodle and signed the inner cover of the first volume.
@@huuuuuuh2057 hey I thought I used that link before, but was kicked, probably because I didn't post anything? I definitely posted a little now! Thank you so much.
Honestly Unicorn Jelly is pretty good. Very gay, but the world building is very detailed. I really liked it at the time. It was made during the golden age of webcomics.
Unicorn Jelly's writing and character art is... Not great. That being said, the lore behind everything is very interesting. For better or worse, those traits carry over Pastel Defender Heliotrope, though since PDH is colored on Photoshop instead of Paint, the background art sort of gets worse because of the extra details needed. I'd say the read is worth it just for the world building. Something fun that Ben kinda fails to point out is that the Jenniverse is sort of composed in a triangular paradigm. The worldplates themselves are arranged into triangles inside triangles, which leads to a permanent fixation to triangles for that whole civilazation. Even the buildings are made around this. They're not pyramids, but they look like an arragement of giant Toblerone bars.
I thought this was going to be a Chris-chan 2 and about how this person is sad, but, I just fell in love with this, I mean, look at the art, it's so cute and yet so distinct in a lot of places.
She's like the anti-Chris Chan, at least in terms of work ethic, quality of comics, and originality. Though neither of them are what you'd exactly call "normal".
Just would like to point out, Boppin' is actually availible of Jennifer's website, fully ported to run on modern hardware, and it's a really interesting game, even if a bit esoteric. Definitelly worth playing. Also, Ross Scott (accursed Farms) made a video about it.
Yeah in terms of obscure Amiga games it's really good! Also from one Amiga fan to another, Multiverse sounds a lot like the game Elite 2: Fronteir. I mean that game was basically No Man's Sky on the Amiga too. So yeah if any of you want to play what Multiverse could have been, you should all play Elite 2. It's actually really good. And I love Boppin as well, it reminds me of Creatures on the C64
So a few things now that I've had time to think after the first upload: 1) Still hilarious how Ben Saint's appearance reflects his slow radicalization by the capitalist death cult running our country 2) It's amazing to see a lecture on such strange content without needing to delve into whether the personal life of the creator is fucked or not, unlike CWC 3) I still don't know whether the depth of these narratives originates in passion or mental illness. It's a little breathtaking, regardless, especially given her capability to legitimately engineer the background universe to her stories. I can't imagine any standard lolcow creating a functioning board game inspired by the principles of the universe in which their creative narratives take place. That's like some George RR Martin shit. Thanks Ben for taking up my ailing brain matter with near-useless knowledge that will likely remain with me to my deathbed.
I am in awe. My jaw is on the floor. This woman is a genius. She crafted this epic over a period of so long and kept it coherent and... I've read comics for so many years and the level of world building and scope she accomplished on her own outdoes most of the writers working for the big 2 except for maybe Grant Morrison, Warren Ellis, Jonathan Hickman, and Jack "I made the marvel universe and DC's fourth world" Kirby. I'm not joking. The emotional depth too is just real. I know she's autistic, but there are some genuine character moments that show she has emotional intelligence. She had the genital fortitude to write THREE stories set in this multiverse, TO COMPLETION. I cant pull myself to write an email to a friend. She is an inspiration, and I wish her the best in her creative endeavours. I need to read these comics over a period of a few days.
I just watched the CWC lecture and I love that they briefly mention Jennifer, calling her all sorts of names and "just a crazy lolcow", and now, four years later they're genuinely appreciating her work
I guess the real lolcows were us for expecting this to be cringe when it's actually based. The Sonichu and Tails Gets Trolled lectures built up our false capitalist expectations that Ben masterfully subverts here (maybe only in hindsight).
@@AOffensiveJoke Maybe Tails gets Trolled actually gets better as it goes along (I only read up the "Beaver" concert part lol) but imo it's probably not as "good" (which is to say thought out and heartfelt) as this stuff is.
White_Coffee TGT is good in a very weird way. Lazerbot has this like intuition for what makes shonen fun and cool, and while his models and shit are incredibly awkward and weird, hes like amazing at framing action. I don’t normally enjoy reading fights in manga because my brain just doesn’t follow it very well, but the Mario vs Troll King fight is unironically one of the best and most clearly choreographed fight scenes I’ve ever read. Even a lot of the macro storytelling is great. Like Pacmans backstory was, putting aside that it was fucking Pac-Man, actually really cool. It’s weird to place it. I think it gets some credit because it’s a shittily dream model less ms paint comic of sonic, Mario and like bugs fucking bunny killing internet trolls...but I think it winds up becoming this crazy half serious epic. I think objectively it hits like a “pretty good” shonen action comedy with some edge and gore thrown in. Like I would unironically describe it as like being better than Fairy Tail. If you get a chance, chapters 4-7 are animated on RUclips and they are kind of fucking great
I’m at like 52 minutes in and have concluded that these comics are, in fact, genius. This is all just one person with no prior experience in comics. Imagine what she could do with a whole creative team!
Blood Machine A game in the world of these comics would be gorgeous in the right hands! I can barely wrap my feeble little peanut brain around what the gameplay would be like, though.
Blood Machine Boppin is even weirder than the PCP describes. It's a puzzle game where the protagonists triangle guys are self aware they're video games characters. The entire game is about you rescuing the bad guys of other games because a bunny obsessed with political correctness stole them all from their games. Also after you kill the bunny his wife and kid come after you and you fight them as well.
This lecture inspired me to restart alot of my gay and dead ideas man world building shitposts, while I doubt I’ll stick with it or do anything incredible its still nice to have motivation to produce something fun and purposefully very very far from a technical marvel
BTW, even in the mid/late 90s, UJ was regarded as really backward and outdated for a webcomic. Her ideas appealed to very few people, though they were passionate about their fandom. Really, the appeal for PoE was the sheer amount of personal drama JDR caused constantly. She was incredibly narcissistic, so she was a real drama factory. The way she treated her husband, the coder in "What is MY kokoro wish?" just made my heart hurt for him. At the time, they'd run through the huge windfall from the sale of the website (Happy Puppy, I think, one of the biggest gaming sites at the time, and it didn't take long for these arrested development were-teenagers to spend it allllll). He was the only gainfully employed adult in their entire household (Ithink it was him, JDR, and another woman, the one with the fantasy sounding name, not the medieval expert). And she had the unmitigated gall to screech at him constantly for not coding her shitty game. He just took it, though. I don't think he ever vocalized any objections to her constant harping. She didn't care much for the PoE attention, as I recall. On her UJ comic comment section, she'd complain about it. Also: The controversy you mention regarding her "quiz" was huge at the time - it repeated a lot of false ideas about being trans, but it was one of the very few places online that even talked about it, so trans curious people often ended up there and got really bad information as a result. She's a very, very weird person. Hard to believe she's 60. I guess we're all old, all is people from then.
My hardcover copy just arrived today, I highly recommend it. It comes with like 130 pages of awesome appendices like a D&D 3rd Edition character sheet for every character. It's truly incredible, I will treasure it forever
@@BenSaintComix You can! I'm not sure if stories other than Unicorn Jelly are available in hardcover, but I ordered it a little over a week ago and it was only about 40-50 bucks
The world building legit sounds really cool and has made me start reading the comic, that MS Paint art with the cosmic debris is genuinely 10/10 stuff.
Ok I genuinely love the art shown in this, even the smushed anime faces.. it has such a genuine charm to it and the amount of work that has gone into the background and larger pieces (showing the triangle plates etc) is actually phenomenal. As an artist myself I believe that there is no such thing as truly bad art. I’m only half an hour into this video and I’ve never heard about this creator before so I’m not even sure what kind of drama is going to come, but so far I genuinely have a deep appreciation for the art show and the fact it was drawn with a mouse? Heck I’d be showing that off too haha all my old mspaint art I used to draw with a mouse looked really wonky
This person proves that just because you're a lolcow doesn't mean you lack talent or vision... but talent and some quality content won't save you from being a lolcow. She's still treated too many people like garbage to hand wave that. The Kokoro Wish is the encapsulation of peak entitlement.
Much better audio this time. I've been waiting for this to be reposted since the last one went down. Always excited to hear a lecture from Professor Ben.
I feel like you reached into my soul, grabbed me at 13 years old and pulled her out! I practically LIVED on OtakuWorld, I loved playing with the kisake dolls (this was pre flash dolls) and I had a kimishibai player and I totally did have Pastel Defender Heliotrope downloaded (and the octopus one). I read Unicorn Jelly until I realized Uni wasn't the main character (uncultured child! I missed out on so much). I waited on baited breath for installments of Pastel Defender Heliotrope but honestly I couldn't make it past Aoi's self loathing. I need to revisit these series! This is such an obscure thing that I was interested in, I really didn't think anyone remembered this at all (except when you brought up Kokoro wish during the Chris Chan video). I love this video so much!
honestly i feel that unfortunately much of the reason behind JDR having a "lolcow" status in some circles comes mainly from her being an eccentric trans woman online, and certain online circles just REALLY hate trans women. not to say there isn't legitmate criticism of her out there of course, her "transexual" site is super outdated and really inaccurate even for its time in many ways, namely the "are you trans" type quiz she's got on there, which i think she never should have made in the first place imo.
When I was a kid, my uncle gave my dad a PC that had a shareware copy of Boppin' on it, and then, years later, I found Unicorn Jelly towards the end of its run and watched this woman's breakdown in real time for several years before I just backed away slowly. I had no idea they were related.
The scope reminds me of old golden and silver age sci-fi. Very big in scope, where the characters are often incidental. Kinda like a Frederick pohl novel but crazier.
I feel like Pendalton Ward must have have stumbled across Unicorn Jelly at some point, whether directly aware of the inspiration or it just got lodged in his brain somewhere, this has to have shared DNA with Adventure Time.
Nate got me into working out, and because of that, my body doesn't just constantly hurt anymore, so i guess fullfilling his Kokoro Wish is on it's way.
11:56 The second we got into the scale of the universe of Unicorn Jelly, I knew Digi was internally rating it on his anime autism scale. 1:36:12 That comic is wild and explains a lot. Anyone who didn't read that in its entirety should. She was basically possessed by the spirit of the worlds and story through a mental scroll in a foreign language that she would see in brief glimpses entire stories and this happened for 3 years. Gotta say this makes me feel woefully incompetent and that I'll never make something as cool as this. Love pixel art and the art style. Reminds me of Kirby 64. This is like my dream. Makes me think of all the interesting stories that've been lost. Recently several RUclipsrs I've followed for 5-10 years have deleted many or all of their videos or entire channels (Axlethebeast, Bananapielord, Tylerosaurus, Pyrit, Sue Lightning). How many stories, how much history has been lost because no one was there to archive it? I've been nabbing hundreds of videos desperately trying to keep their memories alive, but it feels like the Stormfall just accelerates the more I try to save. Feels like I almost have no time for creativity, even if I was competent in that area, because I'm so busy finding new pages, checking for deleted content. Imagine if the Ulillillia archiver channel hadn't started downloading videos until after he deleted his channel? It's terrifying and profoundly wrong to me, watching someone end themselves and their creations and removing nearly all record that they ever existed.
woah. the quiz on transsexual.org is entirely 90's transmedicalism, down to the distinction of transsexual from transgender in JDL's choice of url. The website is all stereotypes about the 'girl brain' versus 'boy brain' down to giving you more girl points for not liking math. i wish you'd have looked into that more before dismissing criticism as transmedicalist bigotry or misguided concern.
At last, the earliest Western internet usage of "ara ara" has been preserved for all to cite and refer to as needed when explaining this borrowed expression's rich and fascinating history in this hemisphere.
NGL, using the Kokoro Wish question at the end to beg for subs and likes actually fucking worked on me. Bravo, sir. Also, when you off-handedly dropped a reference to the Kokoro Wish comic in your Chris-chan video... I was 120% not expecting any of this. It's honestly kind of gross how a stressed out, entitled moment in someone's life can completely erase an entire career of extremely well thought out work. Her print comics are fucking expensive, but I'm deadass considering buying one because I feel like these are the kind of stories I've been waiting for mainstream media to tell my whole life. I feel like one day, hopefully before she dies, the right people are going to finally stumble upon her work and she's going to be lauded as well ahead of her time. She really is the definition of an outsider artist, and I wish she would do more comics but if not I'm grateful for what there is. This definitely inspired me to stop sitting on my ass and just do whatever springs up passion in me, to stop waffling around on ideas like... I'm not a good enough artist or this won't sell well or whatever. I want to have a body of work like this. I want mountains of material for people to pour through. And I want to do something that's a real and genuine expression of myself. Thanks for this and also the Chris-chan lecture. Both are wonderful, and you pay the creators a lot of respect they probably have never gotten anywhere else (or maybe even deserved, like in Chris-chan's case).
Okay the audio is a lot better. Thanks for reuploading! I'm sorry you missed out on the engagement on the last video, we all need to like and comment again
Jennifer was the reason I figured out I was trans in the early 00s because of her quiz. Like I also got my parents going to different transphobic doctors to tell me I wasn't and sent me to conversion therapy a few times in my pre teen and teen years but that wasn't her fault more just a repudiation of the controversy about a "layperson" trying to help ppl identify if they're trans because in the 90s through the 00s there were plenty of doctors who were making cash trying to "cure" trans people for bigoted parents as their business model. Having that quiz helped me stay sure of who i was and I'm really appreciative it existed. I hope Jennifer knows that she probably did help out a silent audience of people know there was an alternative to letting people perscribe who you're supposed to be despite really brain rot controversy about it.
I’ve only just started this vid, but can I just say how grateful I am for this content? These lectures are genuinely some of the funniest shit on RUclips. I’m stuck at home and this is a godsend.
20:21 your correction is still not correct; when they look through the forbidden telescope, they discover that other worldplates are being destroyed by the cosmic debris from other destroyed worldplates in a giant universe-spanning chain reaction iirc they didn't know the other worlds were inhabited, but that discovery wasn't the big plot twist
Fun fact: in that Heliotrope paper theater game thing, she thought she was using a voice clip of "yatta!", meaning "yay", but she actually used "iyada" which is that word women yell in porn all the time (noooo)
Heliotrope's "Yatta!" (hooray!) in that game sounds to me more like "Yada!" (No!/Don't wanna!). This lecture's edit/camerawork and presentation is much better than those in Sonichu and FF ones, good job!
A generation ahead of her time. If she was born 40 years later she'd have made one of those indie games that catch on like wildfire and would have a popular webcomic I guarentee it.
1:44:38 either Jess is reading One Piece or Nate is about to deliver the Best Lecture Ever that I can't watch until I get through another 30-some volumes (copying and pasting my comment from the old video for audience engagement, ur welcome ben)
It's wild how that little Pastel Girl interactive thing can get me immediately invested in seeing where the complex and toxic father/daughter relationship goes, followed by immediately making me cringe to oblivion five seconds later when an NPC exists for no other reason than to say konnichiwa and kawaii
When I saw "The Conversion Bureau" and "Friendship is Optimal" written on the whiteboard, I was a bit confused. When I saw the name "Chatoyance" written just above, it suddenly clicked and I was suddenly freaking out a bit. The Conversion Bureau and Friendship is Optimal are some of the creepiest fucking things that Bronies have ever created, and Chatoyance is one of the most infamously huge figures in the communities for _both_ of them.
@@antiday No, I'm the battleship that was scuttled in what was arguably the most disastrous friendly fire incident our military has ever had. I also write fanfiction for the Yoko Taro universe and am planning a big video essay on the Half-Life series (´・ω・`)
@@Ciretako Wow, respect :o i've chanced upon a few Ciretakos in this lifetime so far, and have found every one to be an upstanding and learned man of culture. Keep up the good work, friend!
@@BenSaintComix there's also the videogame, but it'd be mostly his personal life. It'd be cool to hear about someone who appeared as a lolcow and is now followed for the heart warming moments, but I doubt it'd be as interesting as the previous ones. Do you have ideas for future ones? You could show a list so we get the reading started in advance.
Yeah, honestly I dont even really have a good concept of what it is. I've tried to look into it before but it's so much information that I cant really grasp it.
@@atmsoa9222 I don’t fully blame you. my comment was mostly to get people to laugh since I actually sorta understand it. It’s never good to throw in 12 new characters at once and expect the reader to know them all, hence why only 5 of them really matter. I’d recommend you don’t read it if you don’t want to, the later acts are poorly written and the epilogues could be compared to pissing on an open wound. If you like the comic read it but be prepared to feel like shit about the author/s shitty writing.
thank you for doing all the work and research and organizing of lore and info. i knew nothing about this going in and your video was very detailed and interesting and a great time enjoyed watching
Apparently each universe operates under seperate laws of physics. Many have elemental analogues, and elemental transmogfiguration where whatever matter that comes from one is translated to the closest chemical equivilent (in Pastel Defender Heliotroph, we see how it can backfire as a lab rat literally explodes in a 'reticulae class cosmos', preaumably from its chemical structure suddenly going apeshit.) Each cosmos has different parameters, defining their physics as well as overall cosmology. They havd classes, such as Mundis which is a 'vacuum with lumps of matter splattered across', referring to our own. Tryslmaistan, where Unicorn Jelly mostly takes place, is an Aeryx class cosmos, which has a 'universal medium interspaced with matter', for Try its an air medium that is prevented from gravitational collapse due to A) gravity in Try is a property of spacetime rather than a property of mass, and works alongaide striated lines that basically define an absolute 'down' and an absolute 'up'. And b) one of trys fundamental forces prevents either super small objects (dust particles or below) and super large objects (world-plates and likely the sun/moon orbs) from being affected by it. Try is interesting as its entire cosmology fundamentally revolves around 'threes'. The worldplates are triangles, atoms are tritons (also theres a 1000 elements, not 140). The crystals are all tetrahedrons, the universe is represented as a tetrahedron. Its native biosphere is based around crystals. Hell, the universe apparently is both incredibly static (very little change) and has always exister, theres never been a sort of big bang. Try doesnt suffer any from of heat death, thanks to 'Veils' that foem between worldplates. It should be noted that worldplates all form a 3d Sierpiński fractal, and veils fill the gaps. Veils are the true 'stars', emitting local energy and even REVERSE ENTROPY ITSELF by fixing shit. A broken vase, unde a veil, will reform to a full vessel. The local ecology has never evolved, all crystal life has always been and always will be, including the sapient Jellese who are TTRPG slimes but sapient and so societally and mentally rigid that they go fucking insane as full adults if they encounter anything beyond the atatus norm. Try also suffers from a local phenomenon called 'multiversal rain', which passes through other universes (like mundis) and 'copies' the energy and matter of whatever it intersects with. Once the rain hits Try, it manifests the copies into a solid state (alongside transmogfigurating it to local chemical equivilents, of course) as a sphere of half-solid, half-air. Humans arrived this way, and slowly rebuild civilisation alongaide local Jellese culture (who managed to avoid full societal collapse by ingesting earth flowers that enables their adults to 'open their minds'). Unfortunately, one Jellese by the name of Godan read a very passionate book, very heavily altered from centuries of mistranslation, by a certain Austrian painter. He grew passionate that his race, the native Jellese, were superior, and ultimately decided to send humanity back to whence they came, back to 'earthenland'. Unfortunately, his device, a 'tratonic bomb', didnt work as intended, and accidebtally caused a multiversal arc-duct to form, and shattered tthe worldplate that human civilisation lived on. Arc-ducts in Jennifers Multiverse are the equivilent of solar flares of spacetime, which is a devastating flux of energy and matter and laws (however chaotic) that can cause devastation if manifested into a physical spacem it shattered the world-plate of Myrmil, but also came to be extrodinarily stable - stable enough to create a true universe, one called Pastel. But before I digress to Pastel. I should say that the shattering of Myrmil basically doomed the entire cosmos of Try. As you knoe, gravity on Try has a definite down, but I also need to mention that Try is 'self-enclosed'. If you fall far enough down, you inevitably loop back around and suddenly appear above from where you fell. So what happens when you take an entire world-plate, shattered into pieces amall enough to auddenly be affected by gravity, and have all of them fall onto the worldplates below them? Thats how the stormfall begun, and it grew expotentially. One shattered plater became three, then nine, then twenty-seven. Each one feeding more debris into the other, destroying order, veils, releasing incredible charge and energy. The survivors of Myrmil fled, settled, built new ships when the stormfall arrived and fled once again. But it would've been doomed to fail if it werent for Chou coming in, doing some heavily questionable and immoral actions, to stop the cycle ans force human and Jellese to work together a way to breach past the wall and into a resettling Tryslmaistan (as the rocks eventually ground down to dust, stop falling from gravity and air resistance, and recoalesce into worldplates.) Now, the arc-duct created the cosmos of Pastel. Like Try, Pastel is an Aeryx class cosmos - air medium everywhere, floating continents. Unlike Try however, Pastel's gravity is tied not to spacetime, or mass, but matter itself. Or, more speficially, one element, P-matter. P-matter generates attraction from above as well as below, but not the sides. Meanning you can walk upside down when under P-matter. P-matter sandwiches itself between layers of 'rectilands', moving flying continents that all follow the same path on Pastel. The structure of Pastel seems very familiar to Try, but not exactly, and thats because its half-Tryslmaistan, half-Mundis. The rectilands are half worldplates, half planets, and the overall coamology itself is more entropic - meaning theres none of the anti-entropic veils around. Humans and Jellese, caught in the arc duct blast, actually got transported to Pastel. Hiwever, withiut veils and unique Tryslmaistan physics around, the Jellese and slimes suffered - their unique biologies were extremely energy intensive, being able to reform organs at will and relying on veils for metabolic means meant they had to supplement all of that lost energy with both pure digestion, and by maintaining permanent organs inside their bodies. An endless, eternal hunger set in, like a plant in a universe without light.
Don't forget that after the Luminous Purity Column, Chartreuse is immediately torn apart limb from limb by the mob while she goo-goo-gaa-gaas. The Jellese survive by eating human bones.
"You gotta fucking stop that" absolutely killed me. In all seriousness though, these stories sound dope and the environmental design is INSANE! Like so inspirational
Reminder that Ben Saint is part of the group that feeds Chris-chan delusions about the dimensional merge and he begged Kiwi Farms to attack him on Twitter for pity points
Listened to this speech and others. This speaker is so good at comprehending other people's fictional universes. Heaven knows what he could accomplish universe-building *his own* fictional universe!
At first I thought this would be a lolcow like chrischan, but this sounds like a legitimately super interesting with novel concepts and really compelling worldbuilding that was way ahead of its time. Thank you for getting this out there, I got some comics to read now haha. Also, I now really wanna hear a pcp University lesson on Dwarf Fortress 101
It's kinda sad to read the Bad Webcomics entry for UJ, it's just filled of hate and nit-picking, i really don't get how you would approach the world of webcomics like that, which in an of itself is usually not the best written, drawn, etc Like, seeing and taking the time to read a webcomic one person made, their own personal vision and being like "THIS ISNT PERFECT, WHAT THE HELL? INCREDIBLY DULL AND OVER AMBITIOUS. I HATE IT."
Just FYI, Chatoyancy "shuh-TOY-en-see" is the gemmological name given to the curious optical effect in which a band of light is reflected in certain cabochon-cut gemstones, creating an appearance similar to light bouncing off a cat's eye. It's also that cool way that certain types of wood can look, that "3-D" burl effect, or like a flamed maple top for a guitar.
I feel like if she had just been introduced to the right people, this would be a Cartoon Network show.
the world wasn't ready in 2003
Maybe adult swim would be a better fit
This could have been a book a movie and a game series. It’s fantastic.
it's kinda sad, that this just wallows in obscurity, justice for Jennifer I say
Wyatt Booth her stories seem very tonally offkiliter, I don't see that as a flaw but I'm not sure if a western network would wanna fund a series like that, with that said, I really wanna live in the world where Pastel Defender Heliotrope was a TV series
It’s actually really impressive that she did most of the art for the comic with a mouse. Some of it might not look that good like the faces but some of the environmental stuff is really amazing.
this is EXTREMELY surreal for me. I was a member of the kamishibai makers community from 1998 until it mostly died off in around 2010, 2011 maybe? JDR has always been.... interesting.... and when Otakuworld went pay-for-subscription in like 2002ish, a lot of us were against it since our stories were being hosted there for free until that point and we didn't want them behind a paywall. A good number of us wrote emails protesting, and got some GOLDEN replies back from JDR. I personally got one telling me I was the reason the internet and free speech was dying. I was 16 at the time, and she was .... in her 40s, sending a rambly accusatory email to a teenager about their wannabe-anime stories. Quite a lot of us moved to our own sites and forums, myself later hosting a forum for kamishibai creators away from OW and with the assistance of another long time creator (who has since passed away, RIP Kris). JDR's husband, Stephen, was always nice to us as baby weebs who liked to use the program he and JDR made, and genuinely tried to keep OW alive as well as try to make the changes we requested for the program.
I think when she went off from being a regular contributor for OW and left it mostly for Stephen to deal with, a good amount of her original readers for unicorn jelly came from OW. I didn't personally follow it after the first few strips, but sometimes I'd check in and see what kinda crazy stuff she was getting into. She never ceases to surprise me.
Seeing ANYONE talk about OW and kamishibai, even in passing, is wild, much less show the original pastel defender heliotrope in all its glory (it was really impressive when the program first launched!). It's such a niche bit of internet ephemera that I've never seen anyone outside the tiny pocket of creators who participated in it even mention it. I met a lot of my best friends through kamishibai and making stories for OW. So thanks for giving it some screen time, even if it is just in the context of weird internet lolcow JDR!!
That's wild. I didn't know about Kamishibai until I found the original PDH, I didn't know it had a creator community around it at all. I guess a lot must have gone on around OtakuWorld since I understand it was a fairly popular website for the time.
it definitely was popular in its heyday!! Kiss dolls were the biggest attraction but kamishibai was pretty up there at first .... but the accessibility of flash kinda killed it (plus the original application went a long time without any updates). JDR definitely got most of her original viewership from OW, it was pretty hoppin over there at one point.
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@@BenSaintComix JDR seemed like one of the bigger webcomics creators of the time, often mentioned in the same breath as Sluggy Freelance, It's Walky! (based on a series of "Click-n-Play" videogames, dontcha' know), Nukees et al.
Even before I had the internet I saw mentions of Happypuppy.com on British TV, she made a mint off selling that. Otakuworld had some free games to download, too. I remember one called Neophyte: Koplio's Story, which looked like a pro game from the SNES era. There was another, far more basic, sidescrolling platform shooter, which I may actually still have tucked away on an external HD (via a CD-R from a box of floppies). All of the shooter's music and sound effects were stored in folders, so I pillaged it for my own games for years.
"And then she discovered webcomics" A phrase that is always the beginning of the end.
On the same level as "And then she discovered anime"
Today is the first day of the rest of your life. From this point forward, your life will be divided into the time before this moment, and the time after.
*Author’s note: Then was now and later will be soon soon, while soon will be now soon.
"I feel the same way I do when I watch Ancient Aliens, which is scared because I know it's true" may be one of the greatest lines Munchy has ever birth.
Short Version:
Jennifer's recursive fanfiction is actually 'highly controversial' within the MLP community. I wished you covered it, because it's fairly insane. Her works are accused of being misanthropic, and she often spars with the comment section on every story.
Long Version:
The Conversion Bureau is a plot where the ponies from My Little Pony come to Earth and turn every human into a pony with a magic barrier and potions. They erase the human's identity and remove all the 'barbaric instincts' that make humans hate and war. Everyone is happy to be ponies. People who didn't like the tone wrote stories about humanity fighting back and kicking xenophobic pony ass.
Friendship is Optimal is a plot about the Singularity. Humans upload their brains into an AI based on the pony leader Celestia, where they live in a digital utopia. Earth and eventually the galaxy is consumed by grey goo to fuel the intelligence. Life is perfect and free will is questionable. People who didn't like it wrote stories about humans fighting against pony Skynet.
There's a lengthy article on TV Tropes about the original fanfics and Reitz, 'Chatoyance'. Basically, Jennifer's stories tend to be seen as misanthropic and she argues with people all the time. She seems not to like men. It's a good thing that the ponies wipe out the human race and all evidence of our existence.
It's a shame; her earlier work seems kinda brilliant. She seems bitter and miserable now. I only learned about her from a TV tropes binge, and her page isn't flattering. I wonder what caused her to give up original webcomics and dive down the rabbit hole.
This is just Space Runaway Ideon if the Ide was a pony.
Those sound like pretty ideal scenarios tbh.
That's really funny, given that the 'antagonist' of Boppin', her game, the story revolves around a happy bunny who brings multiversal peace by kidnapping all the villains. The heroes of these various universes come to the main characters for help by discreetly freeing them.
Yeah that dude's fuckin nuts
I love AI singularity stories in general, and Frienship Is Optimal is my all-time favorite of its kind. The only one close to it is The Metamorphosis Of Prime Intellect, which is about an AI controlled universe with nothing but Asimov's Laws to limit it, and the immortal humans doing anything they can think of to keep themselves entertained.
I recommend Friendship is Optimal wholeheartedly, and The Metamorphosis Of Prime Intellect with a massive warning about gore and depravity for shock value. If there are more stories like those, I'd be glad to hear about them.
I love how clearly entranced digibro is with everything about this.
He's gotta be really fucking highhhhhh dudeeee weeeed lmaoooo
assent
Digibr--oh.....oh no...
its digibroad now !
good comment sir
I could watch these lectures forever. The format with the audience is perfect and the content is always the kind of autism I need more of in my life.
Ben makes the best PCP lectures, I guess the rest of the gang get a Professor vibe from him and behave.
For these kind of lectures I'm willing to become more autistic tomorrow than I was yesterday, ad infinitum
@@mahogania5536 Make surpassing your limits your special interest & repetitive habit.
Holy shit it’s yeoman
She came up with new PHYSICS for her stories? This is some JRR Tolkein level world building.
I feel she was the kind of artist who is really good at drawing scenery but not so much people. But again, drawing people isn't easy with a mouse.
I get that as a person she's kinda an ass from what I've gathered from the comments but as a storyteller she's actually pretty good. I feel the weeb stuff makes people think it's "cringey" and ignore all the world building.
She derived her inspiration from *really* american art styles. Her aping of anime is surprisingly well integrated considering how most people did it at the time. But then again, when Robert Crumb tries to copy Rumiko Takahashi, his characters will end up looking like blowtorched cabbage patch dolls.
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@@huuuuuuh2057 Literally who asked
@@rubyy.7374 Nobody. Who asked for you to ask me who asked. Nobody. If social validation is the only reason why you do anything, then I really pity you.
@@huuuuuuh2057 Damn, gotta steal that response lol
imagine only knowing ben through his lectures, and so he comes back years later disheveled and hairy and pink
No need to imagine that's the life I live
What the hell happened to him between the Chris-Chan Lecture and now?
@@stephenfiler3204 He became based and Red-pilled
most PCP listeners followed his decline from a distance, so it's not that surprising
@@goldcreeper7376 Real talk, what happened to Ben?
Shortly before it tanked, I was a composer working on JDR's failed game, titled... 'Kokoro Wish'. I'd been hired for *way* too little pay (none of which I saw anyways), and was just kind of turned loose to create... whatever. Correspondence about the project went dead after a while, and when I checked the development page there was just a bitter message from JDR about everyone failing her. I don't recall whether it was specifically the 'Kokoro Wish comic' (which I didn't even know was a meme until now) or not, but I remember that same energy pretty keenly.
What was the game about? I honestly have no idea. Whatever else was in the plan I think there was supposed to be a social simulation aspect to it and an oddly specific and high-priority focus on using a hypercube as an inventory system, but the *very* early development build that I 'played' was just a walking simulator. For musical direction, I was instructed to download the Kamishibai player and a few select stories, and take inspiration from that. I never got any feedback or more specific direction than an apparent indifference towards anything I created. I think that's what really killed the game; nobody had a clear idea of what they were supposed to be doing, what sort of timeline we were working on, whether our work was on target, or even what the finished product was supposed to be. Kokoro Wish was all a perfect creation in her own mind, unknowable to the rest of us.
On a more personal note, Eldenath is a friend of mine. Albeit over a distance, I witnessed some very troubled times in that household. I can look back now with more charity than I had back then, and say that I believe JDR is a deeply wounded individual, and that metaphorically speaking she was bleeding profusely at that time.
"While drunk, he gives the sex doll the Omnipitor."
Oh no
"The doll comes to life and acts like a child."
_oh no_
"The doll loves him and calls him papa."
*_OH NO_*
@@PefectPiePlace2 :(
@@PefectPiePlace2 What the fuck?
@@PefectPiePlace2 You're joking, right?
@@PefectPiePlace2 Based but the authorities might be on they're way to your house.
"He immediately just goes 'Oh hell no!' and removes the Omnipitor"
Phew, close one.
tbh i really want one of these based on Ken Penders, the absolute god who created then destroyed Sonic the Hedgehog, The longest running american comic series to never be relaunched. we got racist depictions of native Americans, gross oversexualizations of underage characters with weird human proportions, implied incest, giant wars, political drama with tails father staging a coupe against the monarchy, and ancient gods taking over the world. honestly pretty based. and then when he was fired and replaced by an actual good writer who cared about the source material, sued Sega and Archie for the rights to his characters and somehow won forcing a reboot and eventual cancellation destroying the 25 year old partnership of 2 major companies (by allegedly stealing the original contracts he signed) all culminating in his new Comic THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES with no editors to tell him no we get his unabated autism in all its glory about Knuckles and his family with characters he now owns like "evil sonic" while sega cant do a damn thing about it
Tony Florez Fuck, you should just do you lecture.
Don't forget to mention the fact that he sued Sega and BioWare over the echidna characters in Sonic Chronicles, and because of that lawsuit we'll never see a sequel or continuation to the sonic chronicles storyline ever again
hey, someone with autism here
Whatever the fuck that is, its beyond autistic.
"staging a coupe"
your comment sounds like a Cybershell video
This woman is the absolute definition of an outsider artist. Ahead of her time in many ways. Sad that she never got widespread recognition for her comments and that she is instead known for some stupid meme comic. Her work is oddly similar to Darger's Realm of the Unreal too in terms of scope and the amount of passion that clearly went into them. I bet we'll see Jennifer's work in a museum someday, mark my words
Darger's Realms of the Unreal is probably more disjointed, if anything. His art is where it shine, not the story telling (but even his story-telling is outsider as hell). I'd say JDR has a better chance of having a popular resurgence in her lifetime. I think were she to get a good enough backing and then agent she could sell compendiums, easy. Weirder things have happened.
I mean, Henry Darger didn't try to mooch off other people for his art, he actually had a job of his own.
@@WhoTookMyMirr thats... entirely true isn't it. Huh.
@@Juice0109 im on neither side i just hope she isnt getting messed with constantly like chris chan did even tho chris chan was kinda an asshole he still dosnt deserve all of how he is treated no one does.
@@saltmiester720 this didn't age well.
This person here is living in weird internet obscurity while David Cage is still in business somehow
Ben, your kokoro wish has been granted.
Her early work (especially Pastel) looks like if someone looked at Evangelion and said "That's some pussy shit, I'll show you real tear jerking high concept confusing sci-fi with sexuality related drama"
Tbh I really like her art style. I have a deep love of un-aliased pixel work like that. It's simple but really gives me a strong sense of nostalgia.
The greatest redemption arc in history. Ben saint fixing the sound quality of this video.
Ben Saint, the ultimate anime betrayer, who forgot to CREDIT me in the description!
I'm only 15 minutes in and I can already tell that this is going to be a Tails Gets Trolled situation where the story is unironically really cool and interesting.
when are y'all gonna do Bionicles
You want a 10 hour lecture?!
I mean the obvious answer is yes and I'd love it to be 24 hours with a bunch of guest lecture sections.
@@jemm113 the more bonkles the better tbh
I don't think any of them has enough knowledge for that unfortunately
Someone has done this if you haven't seen it yet. Its 5 hours long by Ash Vampire
Here: ruclips.net/video/xRlU6I5VXG8/видео.html
I was a frequent user of the Unicorn Jelly Forums when that comic was still being created back in my college days, and I even bought the two printed books of the whole series, and still have them. JDR is pretty great at writing, IMO. Fun fact, Fuschia coming back as a data ghost must have been inspired by the forums. There was a popular user who had a pet theory about death. He hoped that, since technology will always get increasingly advanced, that someone in the future would make it their duty to go back in time to the point of death for everyone, and "save" people's consciousness as data. It's a wild idea, but you can't disprove it.
How did the forums where? Was there a thriving community?
@@sebastiansanfunas4674 I stopped frequenting the forums a bit after Pastel Defender Heliotrope ended. It looks like you can use the wayback machine it find it. The website was forums.unicornjelly.com the only non-JDR users I remember are Eldenath, one of her spouses, and Alfador, some student like me, I think. Both were very cool people. The thing was, I simply had a ton going on in my life at the time, and didnt keep up with the forums. I kind of feel bad that I stopped. Man, this is making me want to reread my copies of Unicorn Jelly. JDR even did a little doodle and signed the inner cover of the first volume.
Who were u on the forums? I was there too...
@@yaktaur I was mainly a lurker, but when I posted I think my handle was Bioburger.
@@huuuuuuh2057 hey I thought I used that link before, but was kicked, probably because I didn't post anything? I definitely posted a little now! Thank you so much.
not gonna lie unicorn jelly sounds and looks extremely interesting.
Shoewaver seriously it does seem pretty based, like some of the art that’s shown is actually stupid pretty too
Honestly Unicorn Jelly is pretty good. Very gay, but the world building is very detailed. I really liked it at the time. It was made during the golden age of webcomics.
Unicorn Jelly's writing and character art is... Not great. That being said, the lore behind everything is very interesting. For better or worse, those traits carry over Pastel Defender Heliotrope, though since PDH is colored on Photoshop instead of Paint, the background art sort of gets worse because of the extra details needed. I'd say the read is worth it just for the world building.
Something fun that Ben kinda fails to point out is that the Jenniverse is sort of composed in a triangular paradigm. The worldplates themselves are arranged into triangles inside triangles, which leads to a permanent fixation to triangles for that whole civilazation. Even the buildings are made around this. They're not pyramids, but they look like an arragement of giant Toblerone bars.
I thought this was going to be a Chris-chan 2 and about how this person is sad, but, I just fell in love with this, I mean, look at the art, it's so cute and yet so distinct in a lot of places.
She's like the anti-Chris Chan, at least in terms of work ethic, quality of comics, and originality. Though neither of them are what you'd exactly call "normal".
Just would like to point out, Boppin' is actually availible of Jennifer's website, fully ported to run on modern hardware, and it's a really interesting game, even if a bit esoteric.
Definitelly worth playing.
Also, Ross Scott (accursed Farms) made a video about it.
OH my god, so THAT'S where i remember it from. i just thought it was a similar sounding title but no it is the game Ross played, lmao
Yeah in terms of obscure Amiga games it's really good! Also from one Amiga fan to another, Multiverse sounds a lot like the game Elite 2: Fronteir. I mean that game was basically No Man's Sky on the Amiga too. So yeah if any of you want to play what Multiverse could have been, you should all play Elite 2. It's actually really good. And I love Boppin as well, it reminds me of Creatures on the C64
So a few things now that I've had time to think after the first upload:
1) Still hilarious how Ben Saint's appearance reflects his slow radicalization by the capitalist death cult running our country
2) It's amazing to see a lecture on such strange content without needing to delve into whether the personal life of the creator is fucked or not, unlike CWC
3) I still don't know whether the depth of these narratives originates in passion or mental illness. It's a little breathtaking, regardless, especially given her capability to legitimately engineer the background universe to her stories. I can't imagine any standard lolcow creating a functioning board game inspired by the principles of the universe in which their creative narratives take place. That's like some George RR Martin shit.
Thanks Ben for taking up my ailing brain matter with near-useless knowledge that will likely remain with me to my deathbed.
Actually his appearance reflects how he wanted to die his hair and couldnt get a haircut.
Not everything needs a grans fucking moral/political reason.
@@WhaleManMan okay
@@WhaleManMan I would have just phrased it as " _wait don't you guys hate virtue signalling?_ "
I am in awe. My jaw is on the floor. This woman is a genius. She crafted this epic over a period of so long and kept it coherent and... I've read comics for so many years and the level of world building and scope she accomplished on her own outdoes most of the writers working for the big 2 except for maybe Grant Morrison, Warren Ellis, Jonathan Hickman, and Jack "I made the marvel universe and DC's fourth world" Kirby. I'm not joking. The emotional depth too is just real. I know she's autistic, but there are some genuine character moments that show she has emotional intelligence. She had the genital fortitude to write THREE stories set in this multiverse, TO COMPLETION. I cant pull myself to write an email to a friend. She is an inspiration, and I wish her the best in her creative endeavours. I need to read these comics over a period of a few days.
discord.gg/KCMSUR4
This is a Unicorn Jelly discord server, come along
I just watched the CWC lecture and I love that they briefly mention Jennifer, calling her all sorts of names and "just a crazy lolcow", and now, four years later they're genuinely appreciating her work
I guess the real lolcows were us for expecting this to be cringe when it's actually based. The Sonichu and Tails Gets Trolled lectures built up our false capitalist expectations that Ben masterfully subverts here (maybe only in hindsight).
Ben's brain really has the biggest dick.
tails gets trolled is genuinely good as well tho
@@AOffensiveJoke Maybe Tails gets Trolled actually gets better as it goes along (I only read up the "Beaver" concert part lol) but imo it's probably not as "good" (which is to say thought out and heartfelt) as this stuff is.
White_Coffee TGT is good in a very weird way. Lazerbot has this like intuition for what makes shonen fun and cool, and while his models and shit are incredibly awkward and weird, hes like amazing at framing action. I don’t normally enjoy reading fights in manga because my brain just doesn’t follow it very well, but the Mario vs Troll King fight is unironically one of the best and most clearly choreographed fight scenes I’ve ever read.
Even a lot of the macro storytelling is great. Like Pacmans backstory was, putting aside that it was fucking Pac-Man, actually really cool.
It’s weird to place it. I think it gets some credit because it’s a shittily dream model less ms paint comic of sonic, Mario and like bugs fucking bunny killing internet trolls...but I think it winds up becoming this crazy half serious epic. I think objectively it hits like a “pretty good” shonen action comedy with some edge and gore thrown in. Like I would unironically describe it as like being better than Fairy Tail. If you get a chance, chapters 4-7 are animated on RUclips and they are kind of fucking great
Capitalist expectations? l'm sorry what
I’m at like 52 minutes in and have concluded that these comics are, in fact, genius. This is all just one person with no prior experience in comics. Imagine what she could do with a whole creative team!
This is why it's kinda super sad she never got to make the game...
Blood Machine A game in the world of these comics would be gorgeous in the right hands! I can barely wrap my feeble little peanut brain around what the gameplay would be like, though.
For real, based as hell
@@blurrycryptid If her one game is anything to go by, I would be super interesting.
Blood Machine Boppin is even weirder than the PCP describes. It's a puzzle game where the protagonists triangle guys are self aware they're video games characters. The entire game is about you rescuing the bad guys of other games because a bunny obsessed with political correctness stole them all from their games. Also after you kill the bunny his wife and kid come after you and you fight them as well.
This lecture inspired me to restart alot of my gay and dead ideas man world building shitposts, while I doubt I’ll stick with it or do anything incredible its still nice to have motivation to produce something fun and purposefully very very far from a technical marvel
hey man, its been 11 months any fun updates
@ckbev How did the world building go? Did you produce anything fun?
I'm glad someone big finally covered JDR. She was a huge influence for me and her comics are bizarrely interesting
he... he thinks im "someone big" (*≧∀≦*)
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BTW, even in the mid/late 90s, UJ was regarded as really backward and outdated for a webcomic. Her ideas appealed to very few people, though they were passionate about their fandom. Really, the appeal for PoE was the sheer amount of personal drama JDR caused constantly. She was incredibly narcissistic, so she was a real drama factory. The way she treated her husband, the coder in "What is MY kokoro wish?" just made my heart hurt for him. At the time, they'd run through the huge windfall from the sale of the website (Happy Puppy, I think, one of the biggest gaming sites at the time, and it didn't take long for these arrested development were-teenagers to spend it allllll). He was the only gainfully employed adult in their entire household (Ithink it was him, JDR, and another woman, the one with the fantasy sounding name, not the medieval expert). And she had the unmitigated gall to screech at him constantly for not coding her shitty game. He just took it, though. I don't think he ever vocalized any objections to her constant harping.
She didn't care much for the PoE attention, as I recall. On her UJ comic comment section, she'd complain about it.
Also: The controversy you mention regarding her "quiz" was huge at the time - it repeated a lot of false ideas about being trans, but it was one of the very few places online that even talked about it, so trans curious people often ended up there and got really bad information as a result. She's a very, very weird person. Hard to believe she's 60. I guess we're all old, all is people from then.
What is Poe?
"Portal of Evil", basically a website like SomethingAwful
I was just in the middle of the Sonichu lecture, wherein you referenced Kokoro Wish, when I saw this
me too!!
"Can a 60 year old be a Lolcow?" Yes, Gene Ray was.
My hardcover copy just arrived today, I highly recommend it. It comes with like 130 pages of awesome appendices like a D&D 3rd Edition character sheet for every character. It's truly incredible, I will treasure it forever
yo, what? you can still buy those?
@@BenSaintComix You can! I'm not sure if stories other than Unicorn Jelly are available in hardcover, but I ordered it a little over a week ago and it was only about 40-50 bucks
The world building legit sounds really cool and has made me start reading the comic, that MS Paint art with the cosmic debris is genuinely 10/10 stuff.
Ok I genuinely love the art shown in this, even the smushed anime faces.. it has such a genuine charm to it and the amount of work that has gone into the background and larger pieces (showing the triangle plates etc) is actually phenomenal. As an artist myself I believe that there is no such thing as truly bad art. I’m only half an hour into this video and I’ve never heard about this creator before so I’m not even sure what kind of drama is going to come, but so far I genuinely have a deep appreciation for the art show and the fact it was drawn with a mouse? Heck I’d be showing that off too haha all my old mspaint art I used to draw with a mouse looked really wonky
bruh this girl's stories were actually really inspiring and captivating - much better quality than I expected... Thank you PCP bros
This person proves that just because you're a lolcow doesn't mean you lack talent or vision... but talent and some quality content won't save you from being a lolcow. She's still treated too many people like garbage to hand wave that. The Kokoro Wish is the encapsulation of peak entitlement.
Much better audio this time. I've been waiting for this to be reposted since the last one went down. Always excited to hear a lecture from Professor Ben.
I feel like you reached into my soul, grabbed me at 13 years old and pulled her out! I practically LIVED on OtakuWorld, I loved playing with the kisake dolls (this was pre flash dolls) and I had a kimishibai player and I totally did have Pastel Defender Heliotrope downloaded (and the octopus one). I read Unicorn Jelly until I realized Uni wasn't the main character (uncultured child! I missed out on so much). I waited on baited breath for installments of Pastel Defender Heliotrope but honestly I couldn't make it past Aoi's self loathing. I need to revisit these series! This is such an obscure thing that I was interested in, I really didn't think anyone remembered this at all (except when you brought up Kokoro wish during the Chris Chan video). I love this video so much!
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honestly i feel that unfortunately much of the reason behind JDR having a "lolcow" status in some circles comes mainly from her being an eccentric trans woman online, and certain online circles just REALLY hate trans women. not to say there isn't legitmate criticism of her out there of course, her "transexual" site is super outdated and really inaccurate even for its time in many ways, namely the "are you trans" type quiz she's got on there, which i think she never should have made in the first place imo.
One of the triangle men in Boppin' was named Yeet... I just thought someone out there would like to know that.
When I was a kid, my uncle gave my dad a PC that had a shareware copy of Boppin' on it, and then, years later, I found Unicorn Jelly towards the end of its run and watched this woman's breakdown in real time for several years before I just backed away slowly. I had no idea they were related.
The scope reminds me of old golden and silver age sci-fi. Very big in scope, where the characters are often incidental. Kinda like a Frederick pohl novel but crazier.
Wait a second... Boppin? There was a Ross' Game Dungeon about that! I can kinda recognize her work, now that I know it's from the same creator.
Holy crap, I didn't pick up on that!
had the same thought
I feel like Pendalton Ward must have have stumbled across Unicorn Jelly at some point, whether directly aware of the inspiration or it just got lodged in his brain somewhere, this has to have shared DNA with Adventure Time.
Nate got me into working out, and because of that, my body doesn't just constantly hurt anymore, so i guess fullfilling his Kokoro Wish is on it's way.
That Heliotrope kamishibai is just so damn earnest, I feel as if I have no choice but to love it.
This person is totally insane but in a good way like Hideo Kojima
11:56 The second we got into the scale of the universe of Unicorn Jelly, I knew Digi was internally rating it on his anime autism scale.
1:36:12 That comic is wild and explains a lot. Anyone who didn't read that in its entirety should. She was basically possessed by the spirit of the worlds and story through a mental scroll in a foreign language that she would see in brief glimpses entire stories and this happened for 3 years.
Gotta say this makes me feel woefully incompetent and that I'll never make something as cool as this. Love pixel art and the art style. Reminds me of Kirby 64. This is like my dream. Makes me think of all the interesting stories that've been lost. Recently several RUclipsrs I've followed for 5-10 years have deleted many or all of their videos or entire channels (Axlethebeast, Bananapielord, Tylerosaurus, Pyrit, Sue Lightning). How many stories, how much history has been lost because no one was there to archive it? I've been nabbing hundreds of videos desperately trying to keep their memories alive, but it feels like the Stormfall just accelerates the more I try to save. Feels like I almost have no time for creativity, even if I was competent in that area, because I'm so busy finding new pages, checking for deleted content. Imagine if the Ulillillia archiver channel hadn't started downloading videos until after he deleted his channel? It's terrifying and profoundly wrong to me, watching someone end themselves and their creations and removing nearly all record that they ever existed.
Yo bananapielord was my favorite channel back in the day.
It’s kinda sad that she’s only known for the kokoro wish stuff when she made an insanely dense, imaginative and beautiful webcomic with A MOUSE
I expected this to be cringe but it turned out to actually be kind of based and interesting.
Such a stark contrast from Chris-chan
This was very uncucked
woah. the quiz on transsexual.org is entirely 90's transmedicalism, down to the distinction of transsexual from transgender in JDL's choice of url. The website is all stereotypes about the 'girl brain' versus 'boy brain' down to giving you more girl points for not liking math. i wish you'd have looked into that more before dismissing criticism as transmedicalist bigotry or misguided concern.
It's true. The quiz is bad.
The Pastel Defender Heliotrope character design is genuinely cute. These webcomics are super interesting and inspiring.
At last, the earliest Western internet usage of "ara ara" has been preserved for all to cite and refer to as needed when explaining this borrowed expression's rich and fascinating history in this hemisphere.
NGL, using the Kokoro Wish question at the end to beg for subs and likes actually fucking worked on me. Bravo, sir.
Also, when you off-handedly dropped a reference to the Kokoro Wish comic in your Chris-chan video... I was 120% not expecting any of this. It's honestly kind of gross how a stressed out, entitled moment in someone's life can completely erase an entire career of extremely well thought out work. Her print comics are fucking expensive, but I'm deadass considering buying one because I feel like these are the kind of stories I've been waiting for mainstream media to tell my whole life. I feel like one day, hopefully before she dies, the right people are going to finally stumble upon her work and she's going to be lauded as well ahead of her time. She really is the definition of an outsider artist, and I wish she would do more comics but if not I'm grateful for what there is.
This definitely inspired me to stop sitting on my ass and just do whatever springs up passion in me, to stop waffling around on ideas like... I'm not a good enough artist or this won't sell well or whatever. I want to have a body of work like this. I want mountains of material for people to pour through. And I want to do something that's a real and genuine expression of myself.
Thanks for this and also the Chris-chan lecture. Both are wonderful, and you pay the creators a lot of respect they probably have never gotten anywhere else (or maybe even deserved, like in Chris-chan's case).
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Owning a race of bainwashed perfect slaves is a constant theme with this author, I see.
Okay the audio is a lot better. Thanks for reuploading! I'm sorry you missed out on the engagement on the last video, we all need to like and comment again
Jennifer was the reason I figured out I was trans in the early 00s because of her quiz. Like I also got my parents going to different transphobic doctors to tell me I wasn't and sent me to conversion therapy a few times in my pre teen and teen years but that wasn't her fault more just a repudiation of the controversy about a "layperson" trying to help ppl identify if they're trans because in the 90s through the 00s there were plenty of doctors who were making cash trying to "cure" trans people for bigoted parents as their business model.
Having that quiz helped me stay sure of who i was and I'm really appreciative it existed. I hope Jennifer knows that she probably did help out a silent audience of people know there was an alternative to letting people perscribe who you're supposed to be despite really brain rot controversy about it.
Goddamn. This lolcow actually has a lot of talent and writing ability.
I'm so fucking nostalgic for the art style of unicorn jelly
It reminds me of kirby and it's unironically incredibly charming
I’ve only just started this vid, but can I just say how grateful I am for this content? These lectures are genuinely some of the funniest shit on RUclips. I’m stuck at home and this is a godsend.
I watch this video at least once a year. I have no idea why, I just find this whole thing incredibly interesting
Thank you for fixing the audio. We love you.
20:21 your correction is still not correct; when they look through the forbidden telescope, they discover that other worldplates are being destroyed by the cosmic debris from other destroyed worldplates in a giant universe-spanning chain reaction
iirc they didn't know the other worlds were inhabited, but that discovery wasn't the big plot twist
The lorewriting in this is something to behold. As an artist , I think I own it to myself to experience this.
oh man so many new lectures, I'm so happy
Fun fact: in that Heliotrope paper theater game thing, she thought she was using a voice clip of "yatta!", meaning "yay", but she actually used "iyada" which is that word women yell in porn all the time (noooo)
...are you sure that was an accident?
Its said outside of porn you damn coomer
@@ringkunmori I'm a pornographic actor in Japan myself and I can assure you that it's never used outside porn.
@@yurigagarine6998 holy fkn shit .
@@yurigagarine6998 what about this at 1:22 ruclips.net/video/EsizI5fq8ak/видео.html
Heliotrope's "Yatta!" (hooray!) in that game sounds to me more like "Yada!" (No!/Don't wanna!).
This lecture's edit/camerawork and presentation is much better than those in Sonichu and FF ones, good job!
Glad we’re on the Good Audio World Plate now
A generation ahead of her time. If she was born 40 years later she'd have made one of those indie games that catch on like wildfire and would have a popular webcomic I guarentee it.
*video opens with a massive Geno cutout*
Dis gon be a good day
1:44:38 either Jess is reading One Piece or Nate is about to deliver the Best Lecture Ever that I can't watch until I get through another 30-some volumes
(copying and pasting my comment from the old video for audience engagement, ur welcome ben)
I can't even imagine how long a One Piece lecture would be.
A one piece lecture would be fucking tight. I'd actually know a lot about the subject matter for once
@@nate3487 About 5 hours, it seems.
It's wild how that little Pastel Girl interactive thing can get me immediately invested in seeing where the complex and toxic father/daughter relationship goes, followed by immediately making me cringe to oblivion five seconds later when an NPC exists for no other reason than to say konnichiwa and kawaii
I did not expect the 'My Kokoro Wish' girl to produce such high concept art.
When I saw "The Conversion Bureau" and "Friendship is Optimal" written on the whiteboard, I was a bit confused. When I saw the name "Chatoyance" written just above, it suddenly clicked and I was suddenly freaking out a bit. The Conversion Bureau and Friendship is Optimal are some of the creepiest fucking things that Bronies have ever created, and Chatoyance is one of the most infamously huge figures in the communities for _both_ of them.
This is Xaydiant #2913. Are you *the* Ciretako, our esteemed meme captain from Way To Dawn?
@@antiday No, I'm the battleship that was scuttled in what was arguably the most disastrous friendly fire incident our military has ever had. I also write fanfiction for the Yoko Taro universe and am planning a big video essay on the Half-Life series (´・ω・`)
@@Ciretako Wow, respect :o i've chanced upon a few Ciretakos in this lifetime so far, and have found every one to be an upstanding and learned man of culture. Keep up the good work, friend!
Ben is starting to get more like an actual teacher. It’s like this is an actual class, except I‘m not bored out of my mind.
Ulilillia lecture next year Benny-boy?
I might do it, though it would probably be pretty short. he's written 2 books but they wouldnt take that long to explain
@@BenSaintComix there's also the videogame, but it'd be mostly his personal life. It'd be cool to hear about someone who appeared as a lolcow and is now followed for the heart warming moments, but I doubt it'd be as interesting as the previous ones.
Do you have ideas for future ones? You could show a list so we get the reading started in advance.
I was lowkey thinking “what if he expanded on that Kokoro Wish thing he mentioned in the Sonichu lecture”
I don't have anything to say, but RUclips likes engagement, so here you go ben
Tails Gets Trolled and My Kokoro Wish are super inspiring for webcomic makers tbh
I’d watch a 2 hour long lecture about the plot of homestuck, maybe I’d actually be able to understand it in pcp
I would also like this lecture!
Yeah, honestly I dont even really have a good concept of what it is. I've tried to look into it before but it's so much information that I cant really grasp it.
Yeah when ever I try reading it I always get burnt out by the time the trolls get introduced
@@atmsoa9222 I don’t fully blame you. my comment was mostly to get people to laugh since I actually sorta understand it. It’s never good to throw in 12 new characters at once and expect the reader to know them all, hence why only 5 of them really matter. I’d recommend you don’t read it if you don’t want to, the later acts are poorly written and the epilogues could be compared to pissing on an open wound. If you like the comic read it but be prepared to feel like shit about the author/s shitty writing.
I think there's a pcp lecture on one character from homestuck but not the whole thing
thank you for doing all the work and research and organizing of lore and info. i knew nothing about this going in and your video was very detailed and interesting and a great time enjoyed watching
This sounds remarkably like a better version of the whole concept of YIIK's story
I was getting more late-act homestuck vibes.
My kokoro wish is a Homestuck lecture, I am still trying to figure out what's going on in half of it and I've read it like 10 times already
This is actually incredible, Ben said Digibro said he was inspired, and honestly I am too. That being said, I've not watched past To Save Her yet
is it bad that this is genuinely really interesting? I really wanna see how this entire multiverse operates
No kidding, there's six volumes of multiverse goodness she wrote but none of them have been completely scanned yet.
Apparently each universe operates under seperate laws of physics. Many have elemental analogues, and elemental transmogfiguration where whatever matter that comes from one is translated to the closest chemical equivilent (in Pastel Defender Heliotroph, we see how it can backfire as a lab rat literally explodes in a 'reticulae class cosmos', preaumably from its chemical structure suddenly going apeshit.)
Each cosmos has different parameters, defining their physics as well as overall cosmology. They havd classes, such as Mundis which is a 'vacuum with lumps of matter splattered across', referring to our own. Tryslmaistan, where Unicorn Jelly mostly takes place, is an Aeryx class cosmos, which has a 'universal medium interspaced with matter', for Try its an air medium that is prevented from gravitational collapse due to A) gravity in Try is a property of spacetime rather than a property of mass, and works alongaide striated lines that basically define an absolute 'down' and an absolute 'up'. And b) one of trys fundamental forces prevents either super small objects (dust particles or below) and super large objects (world-plates and likely the sun/moon orbs) from being affected by it.
Try is interesting as its entire cosmology fundamentally revolves around 'threes'. The worldplates are triangles, atoms are tritons (also theres a 1000 elements, not 140). The crystals are all tetrahedrons, the universe is represented as a tetrahedron. Its native biosphere is based around crystals. Hell, the universe apparently is both incredibly static (very little change) and has always exister, theres never been a sort of big bang.
Try doesnt suffer any from of heat death, thanks to 'Veils' that foem between worldplates. It should be noted that worldplates all form a 3d Sierpiński fractal, and veils fill the gaps. Veils are the true 'stars', emitting local energy and even REVERSE ENTROPY ITSELF by fixing shit. A broken vase, unde a veil, will reform to a full vessel. The local ecology has never evolved, all crystal life has always been and always will be, including the sapient Jellese who are TTRPG slimes but sapient and so societally and mentally rigid that they go fucking insane as full adults if they encounter anything beyond the atatus norm.
Try also suffers from a local phenomenon called 'multiversal rain', which passes through other universes (like mundis) and 'copies' the energy and matter of whatever it intersects with. Once the rain hits Try, it manifests the copies into a solid state (alongside transmogfigurating it to local chemical equivilents, of course) as a sphere of half-solid, half-air. Humans arrived this way, and slowly rebuild civilisation alongaide local Jellese culture (who managed to avoid full societal collapse by ingesting earth flowers that enables their adults to 'open their minds').
Unfortunately, one Jellese by the name of Godan read a very passionate book, very heavily altered from centuries of mistranslation, by a certain Austrian painter. He grew passionate that his race, the native Jellese, were superior, and ultimately decided to send humanity back to whence they came, back to 'earthenland'.
Unfortunately, his device, a 'tratonic bomb', didnt work as intended, and accidebtally caused a multiversal arc-duct to form, and shattered tthe worldplate that human civilisation lived on.
Arc-ducts in Jennifers Multiverse are the equivilent of solar flares of spacetime, which is a devastating flux of energy and matter and laws (however chaotic) that can cause devastation if manifested into a physical spacem it shattered the world-plate of Myrmil, but also came to be extrodinarily stable - stable enough to create a true universe, one called Pastel.
But before I digress to Pastel. I should say that the shattering of Myrmil basically doomed the entire cosmos of Try. As you knoe, gravity on Try has a definite down, but I also need to mention that Try is 'self-enclosed'. If you fall far enough down, you inevitably loop back around and suddenly appear above from where you fell. So what happens when you take an entire world-plate, shattered into pieces amall enough to auddenly be affected by gravity, and have all of them fall onto the worldplates below them?
Thats how the stormfall begun, and it grew expotentially. One shattered plater became three, then nine, then twenty-seven. Each one feeding more debris into the other, destroying order, veils, releasing incredible charge and energy. The survivors of Myrmil fled, settled, built new ships when the stormfall arrived and fled once again. But it would've been doomed to fail if it werent for Chou coming in, doing some heavily questionable and immoral actions, to stop the cycle ans force human and Jellese to work together a way to breach past the wall and into a resettling Tryslmaistan (as the rocks eventually ground down to dust, stop falling from gravity and air resistance, and recoalesce into worldplates.)
Now, the arc-duct created the cosmos of Pastel. Like Try, Pastel is an Aeryx class cosmos - air medium everywhere, floating continents. Unlike Try however, Pastel's gravity is tied not to spacetime, or mass, but matter itself. Or, more speficially, one element, P-matter. P-matter generates attraction from above as well as below, but not the sides. Meanning you can walk upside down when under P-matter. P-matter sandwiches itself between layers of 'rectilands', moving flying continents that all follow the same path on Pastel.
The structure of Pastel seems very familiar to Try, but not exactly, and thats because its half-Tryslmaistan, half-Mundis. The rectilands are half worldplates, half planets, and the overall coamology itself is more entropic - meaning theres none of the anti-entropic veils around.
Humans and Jellese, caught in the arc duct blast, actually got transported to Pastel. Hiwever, withiut veils and unique Tryslmaistan physics around, the Jellese and slimes suffered - their unique biologies were extremely energy intensive, being able to reform organs at will and relying on veils for metabolic means meant they had to supplement all of that lost energy with both pure digestion, and by maintaining permanent organs inside their bodies. An endless, eternal hunger set in, like a plant in a universe without light.
Don't forget that after the Luminous Purity Column, Chartreuse is immediately torn apart limb from limb by the mob while she goo-goo-gaa-gaas. The Jellese survive by eating human bones.
I can't believe you managed to get me to watch this twice. Godbless Radcon 4.
"You gotta fucking stop that" absolutely killed me.
In all seriousness though, these stories sound dope and the environmental design is INSANE! Like so inspirational
God I love these lectures so fucking much. Unironically one of my favourite things on RUclips.
Reminder that Ben Saint is part of the group that feeds Chris-chan delusions about the dimensional merge and he begged Kiwi Farms to attack him on Twitter for pity points
Listened to this speech and others. This speaker is so good at comprehending other people's fictional universes. Heaven knows what he could accomplish universe-building *his own* fictional universe!
At first I thought this would be a lolcow like chrischan, but this sounds like a legitimately super interesting with novel concepts and really compelling worldbuilding that was way ahead of its time. Thank you for getting this out there, I got some comics to read now haha.
Also, I now really wanna hear a pcp University lesson on Dwarf Fortress 101
I just discovered this lecture series and I AM OBSESSED. Ive binged watched these three during work today and I need more
It's kinda sad to read the Bad Webcomics entry for UJ, it's just filled of hate and nit-picking, i really don't get how you would approach the world of webcomics like that, which in an of itself is usually not the best written, drawn, etc
Like, seeing and taking the time to read a webcomic one person made, their own personal vision and being like "THIS ISNT PERFECT, WHAT THE HELL? INCREDIBLY DULL AND OVER AMBITIOUS. I HATE IT."
Bad Webcomics is the Cinema Sins of wikis
Time to begin the endless rewatch of these awesome lectures
Just FYI, Chatoyancy "shuh-TOY-en-see" is the gemmological name given to the curious optical effect in which a band of light is reflected in certain cabochon-cut gemstones, creating an appearance similar to light bouncing off a cat's eye. It's also that cool way that certain types of wood can look, that "3-D" burl effect, or like a flamed maple top for a guitar.