2021 BMW M3 Competition (G80) vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio | PistonHeads
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- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2021
- Here it is, then: the 2021 BMW M3 Competition. With 510hp from its 3.0-litre twin-turbo straight six, it's the most powerful M3 ever made. But those after four doors, four seats, more than 500hp and an auto 'box are already well served by the latest Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio. Can the rear-drive M3 really be better than the best sports saloon out there? Dan went to Wales to find out...
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Alfa any day. I love my QF, and I've owned 2 M3s.
I traded 2018 E63 AMG for Alfa QF and i love it, I do not need cameras or massage seats.
And all the unnesecary tech and Screens...
QUADRIFOGLIO FOREVER AMG HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!VEDE SOLO GLI SCARICHI POI IL VUOTO!!
@@23Piccolina no he is not, he likes ugly cars that drive well
Well said! Pure drive matters only!
You lost thousands of dollars 🤦♂️
Just purchased a 2023 Giulia QF after considering the M3 and its cohorts. The M3 was everything you said it was; fast, purposeful, a clearly superior interior, and hard edged. But still.... I could not bring myself to say no to the Alfa. Having said that, one of my best friends has a new M3, and I'm sure he's equally happy with his decision. This is one of those rare instances when there is no bad choice to be made.
Yeah but imagine you both come to a party. And you get asked how did you get there, he has to say: "I came with my Bimmer".
You on the other have can say: "I came with my Giulia".
Guess who looks cooler? 😎
Nobody talks like that or cares what anyone drives
how has the reliability been, im considering the QF and the M2 g87.
@@michaelscott7498It has been without fault. Not even a hiccup. Love that damn car!
@@mr.2cents.846 But what if he says he came with his M3? Sounds way cooler than a bimmer and giulia
Alfa romeo everytime for me.. Drivers car with a long racing history.
that v6 in alfa is just masterpiece, so special
Build by Ferrari?
@@KristianKG Alfa Romeo was build and make Ferrari.. learning from history. ;)
@@mahony121212 thanks, i know that.
I asked about Giulias v6 engine..
@@KristianKG ..and now Ferrari help Alfa. Easy
@@KristianKG only a small part of it. From the California V8T
I always look forward Dan Prosser’s brutal honesty and objectivity in his car reviews. He’s at the top of his game and his delivery style is top notch. The Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio is a riot to pilot and it feels uniquely in a class of its own that all of a sudden, the other cars don’t really matter any more.
I actually think styling is important. Who spent this amount of money on a car without looking back at it when it’s parked.
Totally agree. For me it is ugly as hell and a no!
I personally love it, I’m going to wait a couple years and trade my car in for a used M3, I’ve seen it in the flesh at my local dealer who invited me down to take a look and whether you like it or not it definitely gets looks especially compared to the Alfa it looks exactly the same as the normal guila
@@MatthewA7 i have also seen both in the flesh and while yes the M3 will get looks, half of them will be people laughing at the rat teeth. Also the giulia looks very similar to a standard one because it doesn't need to shout at you that its fast.
@@zigaveren3902 really? I’d want the performance version of the car to be different to a 2.0 litre diesel but each to their own, some people like to be the same as diesels. I’m on the side of I think it looks better in person and in the right colour as is everyone in the car community apart from internet warriors
Cheers
@R AUmmm
156 *cough* especially the GTA sportswagon
The 916 coupes/spiders are not too shabby either
159/Brera - stunning but crappy drivetrain
I own and love my 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. The interior and build quality are quite nice and it has all the tech and amenities that I need or want.
Has it been reliable?
The Giulia seems a truly special car. I think it's the better looking of the two. Have you had any issues with reliability so far?
@@manishpatel2525 Mines is 2017. Yes it's reliable and I've done several cross country trips
i put a deposit on an m3 comp. the 23 model has a big as curved screen which makes the quad interior look even more dated.
@Manish Patel 40,000 miles not one problem other than service
I own my second Giulia QV as on shown on my channel and I love it every bit mentioned here. Despite owning 992. GT3RS and Huracan Tecnica I keep reaching for the key fobs for this car and have almost stopped driving the both other two cars because I enjoy and love the smooth supple ride and also the violent acceleration on the QV when needed. its an amazing car and simply put the best saloon ever made. period !
I have a tuned 991.2 GTS, and I tell this to people all the time. The car is intoxicating to drive. I reach for the Alfa more. Had a Stelvio QV and just sold it to get a brand new 2023 Giulia in Verde Montreal. Stunning.
There can only be Alfa Romeo💙💙💙💙
hahahahaahhaah
@@saidalas7763 Alfa Romeo..history of Motorsport !
@@mahony121212 I need an M3 wiht Alfa's sound
@@saidalas7763 you need the Giulia GTAm or GTA 😉
Alfa is so ugly
The M3 was my dream car when I was younger but the soul that made it so alluring seems to be all gone. When I first saw the Giulia Quadrifoglio a few years back I felt the same thing I did in the M3 years before. I would take the Quadrifoglio any day of the week over the M3.
I agree when it first came out the Giulia definitely replaced the first version of the F8X as the M3 successor, but for me the F80 M3 CS was the return to form. This new car although probably a monster, it just an abomination on the front and too big and heavy.
This is why I choosed M2 Competition instead of M3 which was for years my dream car :).
It’s a new era.. Things change all the time
Great Video as the owner of an Alfa Romeo Giulia QV for almost 3 years there is simply nothing that compares. My car is slightly modified and its night and day over a stock QV. My car is fitted with the full carbon fiber Sparco bucket race seats which really makes the interior much more inviting.
Keep up the good work AF!
An M5 will smoke it, probably even the new all wheel drive M3 when it comes
@@avishkarsingh744 M5 is not a QV competitor and yes the awd will help with traction but it can’t fix the M3’s ride quality, steering nor ugliness. I got a 4 series coupe as a service loaner a month ago and the steering was numb and the ride quality poor but then I live in NY which has a deteriorating infrastructure. My old E90 was superior in every tactile way to that 430 coupe.
@@paulbugoni2846 I would still take an M3, more fun to drive, more engaging as what BMW's are so well known for much more than Alfa, in general. Then there is the build quality and the technology which Alfa comes nowhere near matching. Comfort is ok in comfort mode but who buys a sports car for comfort, then just buy an X3 M competition. But more so I would rather be in an M3 smoking an Alfa than be in an Alfa being smoked by an M3
@@avishkarsingh744 I suggest you rewatch the video.
Finally Alfa Romeo lead the race as it's suppose to be!
All car enthusiast respect Alfa as it's historically a huge brand and the emotion and the sound is just something else!
And I would add Alfa is still in Formula 1!
Alfa Romeo chose to spend all its development money on performance.. overtime the interior will get the next batch of development .. think early WRX’s..but not WRX.
@@superchargedsteve3411 oh mos def agree on that one but not sure how many people even know this. Otherwise in terms of motor sport glory Alfa is one of the biggest names over so many decades but the regular buyer or IDK the regular people dont even care about this unfortunately..
i bet the BMW still outsell the Alfa!
@@mamamia6925 about the new I dont know but I wouldn't be too surprised. BMW is a bigger brand unfortunately. Outside of the petrol heads community people don't really have much respect for Alfa :(
The BMW reminds me of playing GranTurismo on the PS, it is less about actually driving and more about toys to impress your mates. If you actually just want to drive take the Giulia, I did, had a lovely late 2017 for 2 years and it was brilliant - try one, you will be hooked ;)
I got a Giulia last year and so glad I did its a wonderful car to own and gets a fair bit of attention
strangely, no one looks second time Alfas where I live.
@@saidalas7763 bc u live with blind ppl
A car that hasn't changed alot in 5 years and still better than the new m3, how good must the guilia be
That's really incredible
Very good review; I completely agree on the comments you made on the sense of fluidity and sharpness the Giulia can deliver. I'm a car enthusiast and I'm not into big screens and fancy Infotainment systems, especially when talking about sports cars. What matters to me is character, personality, the connection you can develop with the car and the fun you have when you drive it. From this point of view the Alfa is amazing: I own/owned other high performance cars (mostly BMW Ms and Porsches) but my Giulia Quadrifoglio has a very special place in my heart.
the Quadrifoglio every time.....even more so as a used model now dipping under 40k...
how is the maintaince.. that might be my next car
@@thulanimazibuko9568 I own a Ti for a couple of years now and I can say that is not bad, I only had 2 issues with mine, one was because I added some contaminated fuel to the car which wasn't my fault but it was covered by the warranty, and the other one was the center screen of the odometer and they not only replaced but also reduced 2k miles from the car because it is the only place that stores the milage, so since it wasn't working anymore they replaced and put it back to the last milage it was stored in the dealership files. just keep it under warranty and you should be fine.
That’s the trouble with Alfa Romeo the price is dipping three times quicker than any other brand.
@@BullyBoxer Not true....try to get a 4 C in the aftermarket....not cheap....5 year old M 3's can be had for similar money to the Alfa and you know what their dirty little secret is right ? Incredibly UNRELIABLE....
Alfa Romeo all day long DAWG !!
@CiganoBoxer “price is dipping 3 times quicker than any other brand”?
Where on earth did you get that info?
Try buying an Alfa 8C, it’ll cost you approximately double the price it was new over 11/14 years ago, and that’s a fundamentally flawed car. The Giulia isn’t flawed, I know, I have one. I lost a lot more than I was comfortable with on my last M car. Stop confirming stereo types.
When I need to add a 4 door to my small collection it'll be the QV.
@R A you sound desperate.
@@vanessalele3953 write it a few more times. Weirdo
Totally agree
An Alfa Guilia Quadrifoglio 2-door coupe would be an awesome thing!
Agreed
Shame they cancelled that project
Think that’s called a Roma 🥰
@@kennyd7667 not selling enough to get the green light from leadership to get funded & to pursue that aspiration.
Defo. And with 4wd
Alfa Romeo forever!
bahahahaaha
@@saidalas7763 😳minchia,che troll cagacazzo!😂
I'd take the Alfa. Oh wait. I did
Same!!
sure you did
@@saidalas7763 Even better than that, the Alfa replaced an M2 which didn't hit the spot. The QV is much more responsive and enjoyable to drive
@R A I don't think it is, I know it is. What car do you drive? Kia Rio?
@R A M2 is a car for little boys 🤭
Wow, the M3 used to be called the best sports saloon there is. Alfa got off their butts very nicely.
the m3 still performs better in every aspect
@@gospinN except when you drive it.
Easy choice for me: the Alfa 🍀
Alfa for me please, an Instant classic. Styling, Ferrari derived engine and a real soul
An italian prefers the Italian car. How rare!
Also there is no such thing as soul, it's an imaginary BS made up for religious sheep. The only advantage of the Giulia is that it's sounds slightly better.
The M3 (especially the Manual) is the better car. And sales will be very much there
@@saidalas7763 but in every reviews the Giulia wins... and they aren't italian lol
@@VarioFelce what reviews? This is the first comparison LMAO. The M3 is objectively the better performance sedan. Wanna bet which will sell more and become a success? I think you know the answer. Oh wait the poor Alfa didn't sell well.
@@saidalas7763 why are you so angry lmao, here we are petrol heads... I don't give a damn about sales. People buy stupid ugly stuff all the time just because it's from a prestigious brand.
You can search on youtube and you'll see that this isn't the only comparison about this two cars boy
@@VarioFelce and many petrolheads are Alfistis because they love fast cars, but that doesn't make them beautiful cars
alfa romeo all the way 💪
Alfa wins just because it’s not so fucking ugly
You do sit IN the car. Sow you dont have to look at it exterior of it. And the interior of the BMW is much better.
@@ersindemirci2673 the alfa looks better, has a better weight distribution, better engine, better chassis, it drives better, more character and the brand itself is the most legendary car brand of all :)
@@Bizz090591 bmw looks better
it's not. It's *super* fkin ugly (the Alfa)
having had a 2018 Giulia QV recently with a 600bhp AHM Remap, its got to be one of the best driving cars out there. Had an F12 M6 up until last year and the QV beats it at everything (even V6 noise over a V8)
always been a BMW M fan in the past but the Alfa has so much soul unlike new M's that have absolutely no soul
Alfa Romeo All Day Everyday.
said an indian
Alfa for me
Alfa for me no contest really. The thing you notice in every review and test-drive of the Alfa is that word "love", it really is a car that you can feel an emotional connection with. I don't think many people could feel that for a German car, or many modern cars at all actually, M3 included. I also really like the interior of the Alfa, having had to put up with horrible "digital cockpits" for the last five years or more it is wonderful to have proper analogue dials which are so much better. Would you choose a Casio over a Breitling? - I certainly wouldn't.
As someone that drives a Giulia and works for bmw I couldn’t agree more. Personally I think my gig is the best of both worlds as I get to drive both every day.
Alfa every day 🇦🇺👍
ok chinese
If they could get the reliability together maybe beautiful car but territory car also....it makes BMW look like Toyota
@@ftr911drvr the reliability of BMW is worse than Alfa ones, at least in Europe and UK.
@@corneliusscipio777 they're both not that reliable was my point but Alfa here is worse they rank at the bottom for reliability. They're pretty bad cars, and the quality is more on par with a mainstream car than a BMW or Audi honestly Mazda and Hyundais have nicer interiors.
@@ftr911drvr how many Alfas have you had? Because mine 2 years and 0 issues, same for a pair of friends (at least in Germany).
I’ve just bought the Alfa, couldn’t be happier.
A cheeky remap to over 600bhp and better tyres (GY F1 Supersports) makes it a tough car to beat.
Congrats on the alfa
Steady on, I’m thinking of getting one too.
@@diegoaponte8512 get it done mate you’ll love it.
@R A he didn't buy a Bmw.
I watched Harris then I watched Dan and the other 15+ M3/M4 vids in the feed are surplus to requirements. Great job.
Alfa all day, for exactly the reason Dan mentions, suspension. Road cars without pliant suspension are turds, poorly engineered for where they'll spend most of their lives.
exactly, it's common misunderstanding that performance cars have to be very stiff, stiff cars are harmful to the car itself and also the point is to have the wheels planted to the road not jumping around because it got ron jeremy's shock in them.
hahahaahaa
Depends on where you live. If you live in a country with great roads you should have no problems driving and it even can feel better with hard suspension because you can feel the road really good and you know what is happening underneath you. But since the roads in the UK are quit rough I would understand that you want a more soft suspension set up car.
@@tracktimevideos5164 Problem is the Alfa will smoke the BMW Porker on the track dawg !!!
Car that rides good on road and track is harder than to engineer than car that is only track built. Alfa everyday.
I love how the Alfa drives when you want to drive "normal", so relaxing......no regrets not buying the BMW, despite being a hardcore BMW man, I could never learn to love the G80 looks.
As ever, Dan Prosser being informative, and showing the emotional and driving feedback the car delivers 👍🏼
agree completely as one nomad to another 😉
@@global_nomad. Settle down you two 🙂
Two years ago I drove the Giulia Q and the last generation M 3 within two weeks of each other. I remember, driving the BMW, people where looking at me when I passed them . When I drove the Alfa people where smiling and chearing at me . People of all ages putting their thumb up ! That say's it all !!
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Alfa without a doubt
I'd prefer Giulia QV all day
well you prefer ugly cars
I'm loving the Chillstep. I was just listening to a mix with this song in and had to check I'd stopped that video playing.
Please keep up the content, you're one of the most enjoyable presenters.
Occasionally i watch the channel but this video is really good, only 14mins but all info there. Subscribed now!
For me it's the Alfa and the M3 cs of the last generation... Sad isn't it?
wow you really leaving amg's v8? thats completely ridiculous considering its the best in its class
@@CTLatteberryits only had the best sounding on its class. Not all best rounder tho. Performance, driving style option, system . Anyway, AMG should introduce the classic 6.3liter to any amg "63" range especially the c63, e63 . Nowdays amg"63" only a number . And what being more sad now is ... Soon gonna introduce the inline 4 on amg c63 🤡 . Im a big fan of 6.3 v8 tho . This is something really disappointed for V8 fans especially my amg fren . Hope Brabus gonna made engine replacement for it
@@CTLatteberry I honestly respect the c63 but I don't like it..
idk, interior of benz is just different. can’t ever go back
Alfa for me by a mile. The m3 is just fussy to me. It may weigh as much as an m5, but it doesn’t have the elegance.
nah, your taste is still terrible
Love the M3 interior with that orange. Other than that, Alfa for me. Beauty and the Beast looks wise
Dan is the man, he has petrol running through his veins, gives brilliant presenting and commentating and can drive to an ability most of us wish could be like 👍🏻
It's like comparing apples and bananas, there is 5 years between these cars. Yet the Alfa still has the edge on handling and looks, the BMW has the edge on interior quality.
If Alfa had launched their new Guilia Quad then I'm sure interior quality would be much improved.
Alfa for me though.
How does QF have the edge, when on technical handling tracks the M3/M4 always comes on top. It's not a "feel" , rather pure statistics.
@@radupiscanu1299 like I said, there's 5 years between these cars. Hardly a fair comparison given the speed with which models are introduced, upgraded etc.
Last generation everyone hated on the lexus rcf for being too heavy and feeling it's weight, here we are years later and the latest m3/4 are even heavier, bigger and uglier 😣
true words.
said a tasteless kid
Best opening sequence ever!
Yes as always!!!
By far the Alfa Romeo feels compliant and puts a smile on your face the BMW has more toys to distract you and I cannot come to terms with that hideous front grille
If I buy a car like that, I want it to be good as hell to drive. I'd go for the Quadrifoglio no shit
An Italian would pick the Italian ugly car, how rare!
Alfa everyday and twice on a Sunday. The new 3 series is just too big for most of the winding Yorkshire B roads I have on my doorstep. That's not even mentioning the looks which I think will deter most buyer's. Great interior mind..But being smaller, lighter with a more compliant flowing chassis and a better engine noise not to mention what a great looking car. The Alfa is definitely the better choice imo..
I know some good opthalmologists in India/Italy (where you may live) that specialize in people that like ugly cars. 90% of their patients are nachos grill lovers lmao
@@saidalas7763 Yorkshire is in Northern England, you ignorant fool.
The beemer is fugly, the alfa is impractical and the audi is boring to drive. To each their own I suppose.
In the end of they day with all speed cameras you're stuck behind a dacia anyway...
@@saidalas7763You are literally the biggest cheesedick on the entirety of the internet. Bravo. Keep it up, Legend. 👏
It would have to be the QF... There's something magical about the way it gets down a road. Especially when giving it beans, it just feels so connected.
Giulia for me! Anyone know which road this is please?
Wondering where you went Dan-glad I saw this in my recommended! Subscribed and notifications on!
Even if the giulia drove like shit, I'd still take it as it looks so much better than the fish BMW
i'd say you visit an opthalmologist
@@saidalas7763 E tu da un proctologo.
I actually prefer Giulia's Interiors, simple, elegant and harmonic at the same time, some leds here and there and some glossy stuff from the BMW are not going to buy me tbh, they look premium maybe but there's nothing premium on that tbh .
I agree that the infotainment is a step ahead if not two though.
Hopefully the next generation of Giulia is going to upgrade the infotainment and improve a little bit an already classy interior.
Agreed! I love the interior of my Giulia! That stupid tacked on tablet BMW does look dated and uninspired
Giulias interior and exterior is worse. You are just a fanboy
@@saidalas7763 I rally can name a few better interiors than Giulia's. Glossy stuff don't make interiors premium when other stuff look unharmonic.
Just look at the dashboard curves, the M3 one is interrupted by that "tablet" and looks messy.
The Giulia's one is so much more harmonic and elegant in that, the leather stitched makes it classy too.
If some 100$ aluminum here and there gives you a premium feeling than that's on you, but that's not premium.
@@kleandrokulli479 you rally?
are you kidding me? The interior is 40k car interior. Not even premium
@@saidalas7763 cause Giulia is a 40k car maybe? The extra amount for the Quadrifoglio you're paying is for the engine, brakes and suspension tweaks.
Why do I even need to explain this? It should be common knowledge for a car enthusiast.
This guy is one of the best car reviewers around, top job.
Motor journalists complaining about the lack of manual transmission - only 1% of the buyers choose the manual transmission in reality
he's not complaining so much about lack of manual, but lack of DCT on sports car at this level is really a failure
@@socalguy829 if I'm not mistaken the E63amg,the M5 and also the RS6 all have automatic transmission
Alfa without a second thought.
Alfa romeo definitely for me. I am a M3 guy, but the alfa is just way better looking and sounding. The manual version of the M3 is intriguing though.
The Alfa is uglier, although it sounds slightly better
@@saidalas7763 how can It Be uglier. Honestly, how
@@marcomenabue7717 you see he is trolling everybody who picks Alpha
@@saidalas7763 I've actually come to accept the new grille on the bmw. However, there's no debate that the alfa's front end is much better looking. With the bmw i had to force myself to like it
@@Kodreanu23 no
This is what you get when you tell Ferrari's best engineers to design the most kick ass
Prosser nails it. As a M340i driver and a current previous gen m3 owner - it's obvious that this is more akin to an M5 from days gone by than something genuinely compact.
Am I the only one that thinks the new M3 is amazing!
No you’re not. It is amazing. It’s just that the Alfa is too, but the Alfa has a certain essential purity and fluidity about it that is engaging.
Both spectacular cars though.
No you are not. The fanboys of Alfa are crazy
Kind of
Ya I think your the only one.
I'll take emotion over Tech anytime of the day! That rat 🐀 tooth grill front end of the M3 is so fugly!
you are like women you like emotion instead of logic
@@saidalas7763 Women choose Alfa, real Men as well. Little boys would choose the Bmw to compensate.
The grilles on both of these cars are large. The M just has 2 of them.
Easy choice the alfa guilia Quadrifogilo, the v6 ferrari engine, the imperfection, and the noises. All Jeremy Clarkson would describe as perfect. The m4 comp might make this a harder decision, especially with throttle house review on it.
@@vanessalele3953 hahahaha you killed him!
The thing that really matters is this, when I look and think about that new M3 there is nothing, no excitement. When I think about the Alfa I'm immediately on Autotrader dreaming about owning one. The Alfa is bought by Car enthusiast's, the BMW is bought by people who can afford it
because the fangrils that bought the nachos grill aren't people or couldn't afford it.
Stop with your BS. People prefer the M3, not the goofy looking QV. Get over it
Styling is a major point when I am spending £80,000.
then buy the M3, not the uglyfoglio
I was in the game of trading in my Ghibli for a QV in misano blue. I doubted that color to much. Still regret it.... Drove Audi’s, BMW’s, even Porsche. But the feeling of the handling of the Giulia is just unique. Of the cars I drove only Porsche comes close. Great review, by the way! Like your style!
Best video of the new M3 I've seen. I think the conclusion is spot on.
Would love to see you compare a Veloce back to back with a QV. Love your work. So good.
I was waiting for this comparison and OMG is it good! GG
How are you going to complain about the Alfa interior when you are comparing the base Alfa interior to a very upgraded M3 interior? Compare apples to apples! Get a Quadrifoglio with the track package that comes with the carbon fiber Sparco seats and giant carbon brembo brakes. My guess is you left those features out because the Quadrifoglio would mop the floor with the M3 if you weren’t complaining about the interior quality.
Exactly. No sparco seats and looks like no carbon fiber steering whee either.
The M3 has the first carbon seats that are adjustable in the industry. Are those carbon fibre Sparco seats in the giula adjustable? Because if they aren't they are practically useless when not on a track.
You mentioned interior then you mentioned carbon ceramic brakes. Something doesn't add up. The old M3 had a better interior than the Alfa. It's no surprise the new M3 has an interior 2 classes above
Alfa was outdated when it came out in 2016. The F8x gen BMWs absolutely destroyed the Giulia around corners and track. The new M3 absolutely shits on any alfa
@@daviskalvans4304 are you on drugs?
@@daviskalvans4304 what world are you in 🤣
Having owned both cars, both modified and stock I can tell you the Alfa is far superior and faster
Great review
Great video. Pistonheads are making excellent videos
Tried the alfa with manual gb. The only Ferrari with a manual available... Nothing to ad. 👌💯
Alfa doesnt offer a manual in the UK or US lol
@@daviskalvans4304 now, but it was offering it up to 2020.
Excellent review from Dan Prosser! Love how detailed his driving experience review is. Thoroughly enjoyed!
Agree!!!
Alfa Romeo any day. Ps excellent video, perfect presentation, non rushed systematic approach to the details. Excellent job!
Had m3 s3 s4 and cayenne in the last ten years and I just bought a stelvio qv couple months ago and the feel of the car and the ride is amazing and the sound is something you don’t get from the others. QV all day
Fantastic job on this Dan! Really enjoyed this. That blue Giulia QV is simply stunning.
I love it in the dark red colour. Very beautiful
Picking up my Giulia QF tomorrow. Call me old fashioned but the M3 seems too tech-y for my tastes. I'm afraid I'd go insane messing with all the settings.
QV :) Quadrifoglio Verde
Qv owner here, had 3 M3s in a row before this. The QV is a master piece. What a machine. Feels so alive, so agile and just razor sharp, yet beautifully damped and controllable. The grip levels are immense , for such a powerful rwd car, and the engine really is special, it surges you forward so smoothly, and pulls hard to the limiter. Proper turbo motor and sounds raw and musical at the same time. It seems to pull harder in the higher gears, like it’s got different boost maps in different gears..think the 488 has a similar set up. Zero problems with the car either, been very reliable
Alfa all day
BMW all night and day.
@@saidalas7763 Someone Is spamming in the comments
@@marcomenabue7717 he is hoping bmw will take notice and gift him his dream car, a 2 series active tourer
@@thomasabbott6332 go fix your punto, your dream car is the multipla. AHAHHAAHAHAHA
@@marcomenabue7717 the italian kids and alfistis
I have the m3 Competition on order for later this year and it was a very tough choice not to get the Alfa. With the interior on the BMW and all of the new technology it pushed my decision. Plus there's multiple BMW dealerships in town and only one Alfa dealer about 45 minutes from where I live. Great video. I hope I made the right choice!
I have an Alfa QV and it’s great. But if the nearest dealership were 45 min. away… oof. Congrats on the M3 Comp!
I prefer the Alfa, all the days of the week
Sad to see bmw charging 85/90k for a car that looks like a dyslexic mammoth.
Its your opinion mate Bmw competiors cant compete with these New M3/M4 C63S geting 4 clyinder engine and Audi was never at the level as M cars car is worth every penny
85k ? Holy shit , it’s a M3 !
@@sejtanskifazoni5752 just pick the recent C63S W205. Sounds and looks way better than the G80.
The new BWM Grills look like Butt cheeks or Beaver Teeth.....
@@vanessalele3953 yes but the new bmw will destroy it in any kind of a race and it is more practical.
Thankyou. Finally a M3 review that compares to the QV... every other review I have seen only mentions the C63 and RS5. Being a QV owner... the way it looks is actually a huge part of the decision of owning it. Also - the interior "issues" ... its well documented - but I dont get it. Its a great place to be.
The Alfa for me. But I'm one that also likes the BMW styling.
How on earth did BMW M manage to make this M3 weigh nearly as much as an F10 M5.
Yeah, weight is a drawback
That is a huge mistake, that makes the new M3 more of a GT, and less of a true sports car.
Long live "The ultimate driving machine !" (I'm talking about the Alfa)
the ugly machine, should be Alfas slogan
Alfa giulia anyday of the week. Looks better, sounds better, seems like it has better ride quality and the interior seems fine, unlike the overly fussy BMW interior.
Cabin might be nicer in the BM, but for everything else it's got to be the Alfa, If you buy a car for just how nice it looks inside you are obviously not enjoying how the rest of it makes you feel behind the wheel.
Tell that to Audi drivers
Everything else - except outright performance, where the M3 also takes the lead on circuits.
@@radupiscanu1299lol
Brilliant review! ^^
Have you compared to the QF with the optional Carbon Sparco seats. I have those seats n my QF and they provide a sporty advantage to the M3's orange seat that you drove. I believe that would be a fairer comparison related to the interior of the two cars.
Thanks q proper, insightful review!
I drove an M3 for the fourth time today because I just wanted to love it's drive and sound because I liked it so much inside. Howvere, each time I drove it, it was too harsh a ride and was far too quiet. Where's that engine noise. Totally gutted! One drive in the Alfa QV and you know you're driving a sports car PERIOD! Alfa all the way! Sorry M3!
I made my choice 2 years ago and have never regretted a second. The poor interior quality might be partially to do with keeping the weight down, but I'm not massively bothered tbh. I just adore the way it drives. Now, even compared to the new M3, it is lighter, just as powerful, rides better, steers better and is cheaper. No contest. Buy an Alfa QV.
Alfas are so ugly tho
@@hivibe2526 my guy I'm sorry but your taste is probably really below average... You can look up many different top 10's about "the most beautiful cars ever made" and it will be filled with Alfas and Ferraris... what you just said makes literally 0 sense. I understand that calling Alfas ugly is just your personal opinion, but don't throw it out there like it's a fact, because it absolutely isn't one!
@@viddovgan7866 found the tasteless fanboy.
It's ugly, bad proportioned looks goofy, that's why sold terribly, get over it or fix your eyes
@@hivibe2526 those alfa fangirls are something else
@@saidalas7763 Look man, looks are subjective. Just like I might find a girl attractive, but you would think she's not. It's as simple as that.
Great comparison. Well done.
Alfa for sure, "old" car compared to the BMW and is still better, bravo Alfa !!
Who said it is better? Better in what?
@@stevem2323 In design, handling, engine noise, total weight and much more
@@Colobu11 Nope, not in any of those things except thr weight.
BMW NON E' ALL' ALTEZZA DI QUADRIFOGLIO LA LINEA SEMPLICE E LINEARE BMW SPIGOLOSA INSERTI PRESE D'ARIA MASCHERINE DI QUA DI LA!!!!! HA HA HA HA ITAIAN STYLE FOREVER GIULIA THE BEST!!! O LA BESTIA?
@@massimosalinelli6666 Great car i love Gulia, but BMW not as good? 😁
Get real dude.
Alfa Romeo all the way,every day