Klipsch RP600M vs Klipsch R-51M - Apples to Oranges!
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2020
- This is a viewer requested video comparing the RP600M to the R-51M bookshelf speaker. Not a particularly fair comparison. Also, the RP400M is actually on sale for $230 which is a very good deal and makes it an even easier decision.
RP600M $440 - amzn.to/3pzwfad
R-51M $144 - Available at most retailers except Amazon.
RP400M $230 - amzn.to/2K9oNSY
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I have literally gone from the R- 41M to the R-51M to now the RP-600.
Here's my take - The R-41Ms and the R-51Ms are solid for anyone on a budget, and don't need to fill a big room.
They sync up very well with even a class d amp. It appears that both of these are on sale somewhere reliable for the majority of the year too.
Additionally, if you're like me; space can be a bit lacking, and you can't always blast music in the room you're in, both will be more than enough to enjoy them.
However - if you're looking to get started with a home theater system, or have parties in your rec room/man cave, while the R line up will be sufficient, as they sound good for what they do, you'll be just so blown away at the difference of quality that the RP600s give off.
It's nuts.
R41ms are now my garage speakers - hooked up to a Fosi 2.0 amp. They work beautifully for that scenario.
My r51ms are in my bedroom, hooked up to a 2.1 Fosi and a Monoproce 60 watt sub - and it's a near flawless set up for what I use it for. Perfect for movie nights & Netflix and chills ;) in bed and also listening to relaxing musicwhile going to sleep or during cleaning.
The RP600s are in my theater room as the primary left and right speakers; accompanied by 2 additional r41ms for the rear speakers, a rc Klipsch center speaker & 12 inch Klipsch sub, driven by a 7.2 Atmos Sony reciever that I picked up for like $450 bucks. I cant complain with any of my setups. They all work perfectly for what I use them for.
Viva Klipsch and viva cheapaudioman
These RPs move a lot of sound out. I don't think I'll go to the floor standing speakers just yet as I'm very happy with these.
Is the RP-600M still worth considering for a small bedroom?
The RP-600M would be fine in a small bedroom.
Thanks for the review! I just paid twice the price for a pair of RB-52 over the newer R-51m, this was useful information.
I would love to see Rp 500m there is literally no review on RUclips about them. Love this video btw
Hey Randy I just put a order through for R-41m, from Amazon US, roughly at cost of US150 (retail price of R-41m in Australia is US$400 plus). Getting delivered in March, I will pair it up with the SMSL AD18, can’t wait mate. Desktop near field application.
I ended up buying the reference 620F towers for $169 each open box. Weird thing is they are ported like the RP600M. I wonder if they sound similar to the R51M.
I was worried I wouldn't like them but i couldn't pass them up at that price. First addition to my new home theater system. The highs to get a bit much at high volume but using the Denon AV receiver MultEQ does correct the issue. But after watching this video, I'm tempted to return them and go for RP series towers :(. Keep the videos coming. You are doing a great job on here.
clear. concise. just enough to finish my coffee. thanks.
I had to cancel my order for the R51 and order the RP600m after watching this video. Thanks mate 👍🏻
I bought the R-51M for my motorcycle shed. Very classy copper cones.
Thank you for doing this video. I am planning on buying the r51 m speakers to get my old home theater receiver going in my living room. I have space limitations so the 51 ms are as big as I can do. I have some Polk rta 11t tower speakers in my bedroom. I hope these bookshelf speakers don’t let me down too much. I’d love to get the klipsch Dolby atmos towers. I just don’t have the room for them.
I got the R-51PM (powered) and I use optical audio to my PC to have some overkill speakers for gaming/movies/music.
Thanks for the response. I have been enjoying your videos.
Thanks for the review.
A year later, but I'm curious how the RB 81M fares against RP 600M.
I would love to see a comparison.
I'm deciding which speakers will be better for my ears and my pockets.
Hi, what receiver or amp would i need for the 600ms
trying to decide buying an rb-611 II in 7 days or buy the rp-600m in 36 days. Have an klipsch center channel rp-450c. Saw your rb-61 II video. What would you do?
I wonder if the rubberish horn on the rp changes the sound vs the plastic horn, you'd assume it would make it softer, for better or worse
RP 500M, also right in the middle. Nice size cabinet too, sometimes the RP 600M seems so big, but bass will be better. Great review, thanks.
Thanks. I'd like to get my hands on some.
Yeah, the RP500M has been tempting to me!
RP-500M paired with SPL-120 sub is awesome. Powered by Sprout100.
@@bubskrz7647 I bet it does sound awesome.
@@cheapaudioman What's your take on the Klipsch Wireless Home THeater system? You think it will sound as better having the conventional AV receiver/amp?
I'm looking at rb 600ii how do they compare to r51m?
Bestbuy (USA) has the 600m for $380 right now if you're looking. Just watched this and picked some up.
Hi, I am Carlos, from Brazil. I loved your video, congratulations. I have a doubt. Four years ago, I bought a Denon AVR 2400H and just now I choosing a speaker (many problems). So, what is the best definitely, R51M (not RW-51M) ou RP-600M? Can you help me?
Informative - thanks !
I tried a r52c center for $188. It was crap, screeching highs, bad mids, no lows and sound waves bouncing all over inside the non ported box.
Then I ordered the r250c for $250 and it fixed all the problems of the r52c.
Sent the r52c back because it was significantly worse than my pioneer sp22c and cost almost 3x as much.
Rp 600 m. Speakers are suitable for 150 sft size rooms ... which centre speaker & rear speaker was suitable to Rp 600m to made home theater
Hi, I got some R-41M in my bedroom but I'm moving soon and I know they won't be enough for my TV in my quiet big new living room. My choices are either getting a sub for them, or buying the RP-600M without sub. Will they be enough for TV without a dedicated sub? BTW I can get them for 350$ so it's a big deal
I know the new Rp line sound good.,but the stamped steel basket on the mid/woofer is seriously a letdown for me. I own a pair Klipsch rb 61ii with upgraded crossovers and slightly modded cabinet that are amazing. I just think for the money they asking the woofer should be a cast or composite.
@cheapaudioman Have you considered reviewing the RP-4000F? I haven't seen any quality reviews of this speaker and I think they are wonderful on the midrange on up.
Did the price of the RP600M go up significantly in the last year? That link has them at $699, video and link mentioned $440, I'm not seeing anywhere that they are under $600. Someone is selling a like new set for $600, seems high, but trying to figure out what happened with the prices. Great review, appreciate it!
Can you do a video about the RB -81 II? if you can find them :D
Hiya. I am putting together a vinyl setup from scratch. One speaker I'm considering is the rp400m. Now I'm leaning toward Edifier s100mkii, but there are too many choices. Question: is there something I should look for if I plan to play at moderate/low volume? Small room. Elvis, BB King, Beck, Prince, Beatles, Stevie Ray Vaughan,... Thanks!
take a look at the dali spektor 1 revew ruclips.net/video/pHsWiK-kO-I/видео.html I preferred it over the RP400ms. Loved those too. great little speakers.
@@cheapaudioman thanks! I'd have to buy an amp for those. Any recommendations? Do you think the dalis with an amp would sound better than the Edifier s1000mk2s (powered)?
@@aaronkon I don’t have any experience with the edifies. Personally I’d recommend a SMSL ad18 and the Dali’s or maybe the Elac debut b5.2’s
1:48 the little prostate exam 😂😂
For many of us, the RP600M is going to be hard to do. I am looking to get a surround system so I have to "start" with lesser speakers like the R-51M, and use older components until, I can upgrade to the RP 600M for my listening ones, and transition the R-51M's to surround sound ones. It is brutally hard to know how to build a surround system on a tighter budget. Which amp will work but still be good for music? I would love to see a video, or a series of videos , where you build a surround system with great audio, but set a budget. Like one for $1500, one for $2500, and a higher end one for say $4000. Living in Vancouver where rent costs half your income, spending $900 on two RP 600M speakers is not an easy choice. Especially if you add on a sub, two more surrounds, and a decent AV Receiver. Not to mention a center channel.
Chances are that the cheaper speakers in this example will sound good even paired with whatever entry level Denon A/V receivers they have at best buy. Go with what your budget allows and have fun with that set up and learn about what you like and what areas you want improvements in. I personally own the r15ms which are very similar to the 51s in this video. I also own rf42 towers, and heresy ivs. The "lesser" speakers are powered by the best buy denons I mentioned and the heresys are powered by the Cambridge axr100. Every single system in my house makes me happy regardless of price and what reviewers think. Learn to love what you have, and never, ever buy brand new full price. Lightly used, big sales and open box items are your friends when it comes to audio.
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Hi.. I have now 5.1.4 home theater (Klipsch rp-260f, rp-450c, rp-150m) , I want to add pair of r-51m as surround back to convert my system to 7.1.4
Is this speaker (r-51m) match with my system?
I believe this are “voiced” a bit differently than your others but they would be fine for surrounds. That really only matters for the fronts and centers IMO
I would skip the r-51m as rears. They’re very sharp and jarring when they light up. My buddy had them as rears and replaced them with 600m... way different feel
I keep hearing about the Klipsch The Fives, if you reviewed them I can't find it. Thanks
Hey nice Video :)
Do you think an 80W amp is strong enough to Power the 600m?
Oh for sure. These are 96db efficient. You could get away with a 25 watt amp for these.
Ok Thanks for the Quick answere!
I was not quit sure, becouse the manuel says constant power handling of 100W is possible and 2x40W is far away of these numbers :D
It's interesting how little power people actually need. with a 96db speaker you'll get 96 db at 1 meter or about 3 feet which would be louder than anyone should actually listen to music. Often times the spec given for power are a single channel driven at ridiculously high levels of distortion. I'd say for those klipsch that 5 watts of power is all you'll ever need. Power requirements also vary widely with different frequency. Lower frequencies will require a much greater amount of power than higher ones. 50-50 watts is plenty.
i like your way of thinkinh bro
Hi, at my place there is 3 used bookshelf speakers up for sale. Which one the best pair with Klipsch RP-250C center speakers. Mostly for movie watching. Thanks
Klipsch R-51M
ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2
Q Acoustics 3020i
I'd steer clear of that Klipsch. I wasn't impressed. The elacs are good but need to be placed close to the wall to get the best and balanced bass response to my ear. I haven't heard the 3020i just the 3020's. I'd go Elac.
@@cheapaudioman thanks for reply, appreciate it very much
My 600s just came in today. Picked them up off Amazon “Renewed” for $389 pre tax and are actually flawless. Do you have a recommended stand height and/or stand model? They will serve as front left/right theater speakers as well as kicking back on the couch 2.0/2.1 listening. Thanks.
You don't want to know my opinion on stands. I built mine and have never had a bit of a problem. I also use bar stools. Bar stools can do everything a speaker stand but a speaker stand can't do everything a stool can do. I've never noticed any issues with the sound quality being on my stands or stools. I think monoprice has some decent affordable stands. I think the ones I made are 30" tall.
One thing a lot of people recommend is the monoprice stands (also can be found on amazon) but fill them with sand or kitty litter.
@@snowrang3r657 yeah. I’ve seen that too. I think filling them up with stuff is a bit much. Does it matter? Maybe. I like barstools for stands. $40. Throw a sack of flour on the bottom rungs to decrease resonance.
@@cheapaudioman it definitely makes a difference. But I guess I shouldn’t make a blanket statement that you must fill them. If your room is dead you might like them as is, if your room is lively though it’s definitely something to try.
@@snowrang3r657 that’s good to know. My rooms generally have a lot of carpet and stuffed animals lying around and from what I’ve heard stuff animals are good for attenuating sound. I mostly kid around with the stand thing but I probably will pick up a pair
I bought a pair of R51 for 129 bucks. I got a good deal??
What center channel speaker would you pair with these RP 600s?
Another RP600M
@@erikandmarcie i ended up getting the Sonos ARC, Subs, and surrounds. Sounds great and very simple to setup. for my needs it is perfect.
What’s your thoughts about the RP-150M?
I have no experience with them but I've heard they're great
Can please you compare rp160m vs rp600m !
$300 for a pair of R-610F floor standing klipsch or $420 for renewed RP600Ms?
No other speakers or gear right now just looking to get a start with 2 good speakers receiver and eventually add a sub
The RPs in my opinion blow them away.
I’d love to see a comparison between the RP600M and the RB62 II.
That would be fun. I'll see what I can do
@@cheapaudioman awesome! I love how you really listen to our comments and reply. Your channel is by far my favorite hi-fi channel on RUclips now Randy.
@@Missionmtman I appreciate that. To me this is somewhat of an honor and a privilege to be able to do this. Answering as many of your comments as I can is fun and really my duty to the ones that have made this possible which is you, my friend.
I think I want to get the 400m eventually for my rear surrounds
I really want to get that speaker as well to compare it to the R-51M's. I think it's available through amazon for under $300 but I don't think it's an authorized Klipsch retailer.
Love the videos, Where’s the two ferns?
I have two speakers instead. I'm actually trying to get some people to do a "Between 2 Speakers" bit. It seems to be an unpopular idea.
@@cheapaudioman Between Two Coffee Mugs suits you far better.......
@@AliensWanted brilliant
the r51 has fiberglass woofers, the 600m has cerametallic aluminum woofers...
I have both. I think the R-51M looks classier and better, i wish they used those copper screws on the RP600. Of course the RP600 sounds way better though
You say cheapaudioman, I hear chiefaudioman. 😎
Yes, I am currently speakerless, how could you tell? 🤔
I A B, d these at my house for a week last year, thought the R was more rock and roll and the rp was more audiophile
fair assessment
Every time I see your videos it makes me want to grab a cup of coffee
Hello! I am a subscriber. I really appreciate your work! Thank You. I would like to ask you a question. Did you ever heard the R-41M? On youtube there is an "expert" which gave it 5 stars.. I would use it with a subwoofer. I have also a height restriction :D.. yes my shelf allows for 34cm which is around 13.35 in. I use it with a Yamaha RX-A660 Aventage. Any suggestion would be much appreciated! Thanks.
I don't like the R series personally. I think the Sony SSCS5 does everything the R-51 does but is half the price. The RP series though is very nice but much more expensive.
@@cheapaudioman unfortunately in Italy the Sony (240€) cost more than the Klipsch (228€). I am thinking to invest more to buy Wharfedale.. what would you suggest?
@@AntoG4RS that’s tough to call. I really like wharfedale but have only heard the diamond 11.2’s and they sound quite different than the Klipsch. I think if you can return them if you don’t like them than the new diamond 12 series would be a place to start.
What about r51PM or rp500? Great video
rp500 for sure
@@cheapaudioman klipsh rp500 or krk rokit g4?
what about the rp 500m?
I'd like to get some in to listen to.
Well i tried the RP 400, 500, and 600 the R51M beat all except the RP600 and only because i felt it had louder base and sounded a little louder over all. But for the low price of 179 for the pair of R51M, they sound better than the other straight comparisons. Not only in specs looks better but also in price. The 600 is def not a straight comparison to the R51M, is more the RP500 and to me the R51M outperformed the RP500. Oh and forgot to mention the R51M will pair really nice with a subwoofer and for the price of the RP500 or RP600, you can have both.
1:50 no look and on target. Not first time doing this. ;)
The Klipsch Reference Series is a replacement for its Synergy Line. I bought the predecessor to the R-51M, the R-15M for $109/pr., and I'm very happy with them for how I use them, which is casually & occasionally, and not analytically with a ton of scrutiny. For the price I paid, the R-15m were very hard to beat (I lament the loss of those Harman eBay store sales where you could pick up a pair of Infinity Beta 20s for under $60 with a warranty & free shipping).
That being said, I think I need a pair of RP-600M in my life.
I agree whole heartily. You need a pair of 600M’s in your life. I’ve heard nothing but great things about the R-15ms. The 600’s are a very magical speaker.
@@cheapaudioman Thoughts... www.amazon.com/dp/B07RH9457S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_EabTFbJA85NZP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You remind me of a guy I used to know. He was a prat too.
I have a modo in home theater. Your left and right speakers are going to be somones surrounds.
Please do a review on the Klipsch rp 500m. Like others have said there are no reviews on RUclips
Yeah. I've noticed that. I reviewed both the RP600's and 400's and have been trying to find a good deal on the 500's. I'm sure they're awesome
Review monitor audio bookshelf please
Titanium 😳Wolverine of Speakers
Adamantium would be way cooler.
I have have r-51 now as rear speakers but would like to upgrade to the rp600 any thoughts peeps
go big or go home 😎, I will take the big ones RP600M
Good choice. They're incredible.
how about 160m vs 600ms
That's a good matchup. I'm actually breaking in a set of RB 62ii's and they're very good. I think I'll be doing a video on those two soon.
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Thank you for saying so. I wonder if the price difference is... well, justified. I am interested to hear what you would have to say about that implicitly or otherwise.
BTW - your review of the Polk tsi 100's was super helpful to me. Height and positioning - mostly height is so important. They are super!
Thanks-
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@@cmkilcullen8176 I’ll just say this and hopefully not ruin the review. If someone is looking for the RP600’s and doesn’t have the cash these are an excellent option and way better than anything in the current Reference line.
@@cheapaudioman
fair enough. Look forward to an actual review hopefully some day. I have yet to have seen anyone else do one. Happy Holidays to you!
Rp400m should be a good deal with subwoofer
I'm curious re: how the RP-500M would compare to the R-51M. Maybe more apples to pears? Or grapefruit to orange?
I had a R-51M for a few weeks, but while it was great at low volumes, I couldn't bear with the sibilance.
Brian. I'm not a real big fan of the R-51M. The RP line is far and a way better as in 2-3X better. With that said I've never heard the RP500M but in my opinion I thought the Sony SSCS5 was really as good if not better than the R-51M
ukk,, akk,,uuuk,,akk. just put some music bro
I guess is pronounced Clips?
IT'S KLIPSCH NOT CLIPS BRO
thankz
Dude, loose the vocal fry. We all get it, you're really cool for an old guy and you could care less than a blond 90's high school student actress. It sounds worse than those klipsch. It's probably why I'm only your 92nd comment on this 1.6yr old video. I know I won't be coming back.
This is what I call BS review, how can you compare a pair of speakers that has an integrated amplifier and Bluetooth with Separate speakers !!!
The R-51M is not powered. The R-51PM is powered with bluetooth. Different models. One has a power cord and the other one hooks up to an amplifier.