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@@peytonsnead3114 rear wall can still add some room gain. If I had them in the middle of the room then probably not. The reflections aren’t an issue that close
Love your channel, Randy. I'm a a home recording musician. A producer's job is often to make sure that all listeners can appreciate recorded sound on varied sources. Since we often need a "regular listener" reference, I bought the Sonys to check my mixes on "a regular person" setup. I used a Fosi audio $85 amp. I actually found myself enjoying the recordings in the near field, when monitoring mixes on them. I am still chuckling at how good they sound at low volume and at about 3-5 feet. They were a bit wobbly at 15 feet and beyond, because they suffer from too much of a delta between direct and reflected sound, but they are indeed, IMO, somewhat of a unicorn. Your reviews are unabashedly honest with the caveat that subjectivity cannot be avoided, and I find that useful info!
Great review Randy. I've actually had 2 pairs of the Sony's over the past few years and never disappointed. Currently have the Klipsch RP-6000F II's. Yes, totally different presentation. Even though they are not the RP-600M II's, their signature follows through on the towers. My personal budget darling is the Neumi BS-5. LOVE that speaker! Also have the Emotiva B1+ which is also fantastic! Happy 4th!
I got the Sony speakers about a year ago on sale. They are in a small to medium sized listening area. They are very good. And coupled with an admittedly mediocre powered subwoofer and an older Kenwood receiver (35 watts at 8 ohms) I am very happy. This combo can reveal deficiencies in the DAC of an older Sony DVD player I use for CD playback.
Your love for the SSCS5 has single handly made me buy them 😂 just getting started with home audio experience but they were 66 on Amazon the other day so snagged them. Looking forward to the journey
I’ve had four different pairs of speakers. My first pair was the Sony CSS5. Second was the Klipsch RM 15, a cheap set of Polk from Best Buy and the Kef Q 150. Equipment is Denon PMA 600NE. I still have the Sonys after 3 years as well as the KEFS, the others went back. Spot on review, just wish I’d bought a few more pairs at $73
Thanks for the review, just picked up the SSCS5s for $123, AIYIMA T8 6N3 Digital Tube Preamplifier for $139, and AIYIMA A07 TPA3255 Power Amplifier for $ 64.99 on amazon. This is my first system and I am attempting to give my digital library (PC) some warmth and personality. Wish me luck and again, Thank you.
Ordered a pair of the SSCS5s, a Mission 10" sub and an Aiyima D03. Blown away by the sound. Clear, full and can crank way louder than I like to listen. Makes movies boom like they should. Thanks Randy for pointing me in the right direction.
I've been a fan of this channel for well over a year now and I think this is the best review he has ever done. It's brutally honest. The genuine conflict in his voice and demeanor is as great an indication of his sincerity as I've ever heard. I am not in market for new gear, but I am now keeping my eye on the SSCS5, because I'm going to pull the trigger on them as soon as the price comes down.
@@Eron55555 My dailies are Dynaudio Special 40s, so they’re in no danger of being immediately replaced. My thinking is that I would use them as my A+B speakers with my new Fosi V3, which I love. So, you know, we’ll see what happens. Though the Sony’s are starting to seem overpriced for what is an older, if excellent, speaker.
Hey Randy, I concur with your assessment. I own both and the main reason I purchased the Mark 2 was for the bass as I have a low powered Cambridge AXA 25. But I unapologetically love my Sony’s and recommend them to anyone who asks my opinion on affordable speakers.
I've seen a couple of reviews that paise the Sony SSCS5's. It's really amazing that such an economical speaker can out perform a more expensive speaker on so many levels.
I grabbed a pair of the Sonys at $88 after your first or second review of them. They are amazing but missing a little low end. Grabbed a pair of KLH 12’s at Goodwill. I have $110 in the two sets and paired together, they sound absolutely fantastic. I cannot imagine a better sounding setup and get giddy every time I listen to them.
I think that most people buying these speakers would use them as a 2 channel system, vinyl, CD's, streaming... but not placed just 3 feet apart and listening from only 3 feet away. I do have the RP600M in my modest vinyl and CD setup, they are placed 9' apart and my comfy chair 14' away. I keep the grills on and minimal toe in and 1' away from the wall. After months of being unhappy with them "something happened" and now they sound really good and the best sound I get is with well recorded jazz albums and less with rock, go figure! Power comes from an SX550.
@@Daminlk Could be, but I went from being totally disappointed but being too lazy to send them back, to really liking them. Power will now come from an SX780 that I just got back from servicing. Yes, I am totally hooked to the old stuff!
Another great video. I have the Sony SSCS5 in my bedroom with a Pioneer Receiver and the 1st Gen RP-600M in my listening room with a Denon receiver. I find myself preferring to listen to music in my bed room. I have switched rooms and receivers to see if that was the difference but I have determined the Sonys just sound better overall. The main difference is how loud I am listening. If I am really cranking it, usually with some alcohol influence, the Klipsch hold together better and punch harder but IMO at lower levels the Sonys definitely sound better.
Ive recommended the Sonys to so many people that love clear sound but are not audiophiles. Those Sonys with a sub are perfect for most of the people happy with the home theater type of sound. I run in both circles and just my 2 cents when compared to my Infinity Kappas or PSB Stratus 2 channel set up is where the Sonys can't compete is in how natural it sounds. Also the Sony's have a resonance which is quite audible if you are used to more expensive speakers but not super noticeable. Is it worth the extra price... Not to 90 % of the population I'm guessing... The Sony's pack real value and the imaging is crazy.
Randy, you are absolutely correct, the Sony's have more clarity and detail than anything else in the price range and about $300.00 additional. I have 2 pair and have begun going back thru all of my music enjoying all that that was covered up and there was a lot. Keep up the great work!!!
I don't *think* there is a standard for measuring efficiency so manufacturers can do things differently than the typical 1w @ 1meter that most expect. If I recall correctly, this is what Klipsch was doing. Not an outright lie, just a different way of measuring.
@@erics.4113 Manufacturers can do whatever they want, but it hurts us, the consumer, if they don't follow standards. So we should be advocating they follow standards so we get TRUTH with no grey area. Klipsch is a HUGE company with plenty of money to do everything the right way. They are one of the biggest speaker manufacturers for regular people that don't know anything about the specs or how they're gathered, so the Klipsch specs will always look better on paper. It's misleading, pure and simple. The FR numbers are also from in-room response, so the stated bass extension is always better than other manufacturers. Point is, they have plenty of money to buy a Klippel NFS or even build a state of the art anechoic chamber(hell, they probably already have one) but they choose not to. Instead they mislead unsuspecting consumers for more sales.
If you were listening to dance techno pop stuff in a big room for a party or want to listen to guitars and stuff that's different genre they make a difference... recording formats like six or seven of those it's hard to get it dialed in but it's fun
Understated in so many ways. Pair them up with a subwoofer and humble most comers in this category of speakers at much much higher price points. Not sure how SONY pulled this off, but they certainly did in a big way.
Bravo Randy! Really appreciate your honesty. It really comes down to personal preferences and your preferences are similar to mine on most speakers. Thank you for what you do!
Just yesterday I replaced my front main (Klipsch Synergy) speakers with Sony SSCS5s, which I picked up for $100 as "like new" (they were) from Amazon. I couldn't be happier with the change. The Sony speakers broke in quickly, and started to sound very good indeed after only a couple of hours worth of music. I'm running them in "small speaker" mode off my Yamaha AV receiver, with an 80 Hz cutoff, and filling in the lower bass with a 12" Klipsch subwoofer. They sound amazing. I'm seriously considering another pair to replace the surround speakers, which double as monitors for my digital piano. These are seriously good speakers at the $100 price point. (note that Prime Days are coming right up on the 12th & 13th of this month.)
I have a lot of speakers. I bought those Sony's for 80 bucks from Amazon. I just can't believe how well the Sony's sound. I love em. I do rotate my speakers out for a change. I've got the Klipsch and the Elac speakers as well.
Hi cheapaudioman love your show, I watch it most every day. A few words about this review. While I do admit to being a Klipsch fanboy, my fanaticism is actually limited to the heritage line, so I don't get but-hurt over their newer line failing to take top honors in a review. Having said this, you did say that the Sony loses its advantage when turned up and listened to at normal distances. Seems to me therefore that the review was a little unfair because most people who listen at 1 meter will be at their desk and will wind up buying small computer speakers anyway. But I do see the Sonys as being ideal for a large desk. Thoughts?
I love my SSCS5's! greatest $88 purchase I ever made!! The key is not only setup (small room/near a boundary/crossed over 80hz -definitely for HT!)) but definitely amp matching! The smooth Harman Kardon receiver I use is simply wonderful with em. however, for rock and placed behind a trasparent projection screen in medium or larger room??? ..yeah the Klipsch .for sure
Through the Sonys, Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams." An acoustic guitar appears in the chorus. It shimmers. I've heard the song a ka billion times and never heard that acoustic guitar radiate like that.
Thank you, I bought theses Sony SScs5 and I think they are great, sounds amazing, I use a vintage deck technics as an amplifier and make a great set up
I respect your opinion on these speakers I have these Klipsch setup in a 15 x 15 foot room with a full 7.2 setup and have tried multiple different types of speakers and have not found a better sounding stage as I did with these Klipsch great for music even better for home theater but I respect your input and opinion on these bud
I think you hit on the root of the channel. Affordable gear can sound good. A person doesn't have to spend thousands of dollars to enjoy thier music or movies. I have friends that make really good money, they don't want to spend thousands for gear, they want something they can enjoy, and something that's easy to use. I think it's great when you and Drako put together systems that don't break the bank but get the job done. That's why this is my go to channel for Audio gear.
Hi Randy. Just bought a pair of SSCS5's . I'm taking your advice and watched many of your videos on them. I have taken the plunge. Should receive them a week from now. Can't wait to hear them.
It would be interesting to see if your findings would be the same if you listened in a wider, say 2m triangle, more space for better bass. The 600's may need a bit more space to do their best thing. I like the wobbly Sony table . . . a lot.
Klipsch makes an "exciting" speaker. However, if you want detail in all aspects of music, Klipsch isn't it. Typically Klipsch bass is sloppy and the high end is overly bright and, as you said, they can sound nasally. Horns color sound. Period. When I was dealing in audio, people would come in wanting Klipsch because someone told them they were the best. I'd get the same thing with Bose. I'd let the customer pick the music and I'd A/B Klipsch speakers against others about the same price or less. Very few bought Klipsch after the side by side comparison. I never sold a Bose system doing this. There are far better speakers for music but Klipsch is great for home theater. I always say "everyone hears differently and has different tastes" but I was right with most people. Love the show amigo !
What speaker would you recommend then? Right now on my list is Klipsch, RSL, and ELAC. I’m new to surround sound speaker and I’m trying to build a 5.1 system.
I'm like you....I want to hear the fingers sliding along the frets, the China cymbal 's dark ring, the fuzz in the tone of a jazz saxophonist. It makes the music live. Detail is everything to me. I was very happy to go with the Sony speakers. As a retired band teacher, I love that stuff!!
Hey Randy I took your advice got the Sonys and the Aiyima T9 amp added some ge tubes, put on an sacd and was blown away. the sound is stellar. Thanks for all the great reviews
Klipsch rates sensitivity with room gain, whereas most manufacturers rate it anechoic. The Klipsch speakers should be 85ish anechoic according to other review measurements.
Not quite that bad. Reviews on Soundstage, Audioholics, and Stereophile are pretty consistent: Klipsch speakers rated in the upper 90s will measure in the low 90s. The spec-vs-reality falloff applies to their Reference and Heritage models.
I resubscribe to your channel because of this video today. I think you're a nice guy and you don't claim to be an expert, but this video reminded me of why I started watching your channel in the first place. You gave an honest heads up review without straying off topic too far.
Sounds like they are a match made in heaven pair them both together on the same channel with a gain control so volume's can be set in a horses for courses kind of way.
Watching this video I heard a clang in my kitchen... It was your ring contacting the coffee mug! Ha. Gotta love Elac and tubes... Just wondering, if paired with a sub, which speaker to choose? Me guessing Sony.... Good video sir.
I just bought the SSCS5 to finish up my 2.0 system dedicated to music. Believe the hype. They are excellent speakers. The speakers I was using before were Klipsch RP-41s so I don't have high end speakers to compare them to but I am definitely hearing things I didn't in the Klipsch. I got them on Amazon for $123. At this point I don't feel like I need anything better or a subwoofer. Listening to the last movement from Beethoven's 5th symphony and the Berlin Philharmonic has never sounded better or so epic. Thanks Randy! My system: Yamaha RX V385 Cambridge Audio AXC-35 CD player.
Hi Randy. Another great video, and more of why I bought, and love the Sony speakers! I left a detailed comment on your comparison speakers under $300. Excellent speakers by Sony, and a great price!
One meter distance and separation of the nearflield setup is to the wrong placement for the Klipsch M600 ii. Makes me wonder if this was really a fair camparason?
For some reason I think you might find Jethro Tull's "Sossity; You’re a Woman" as an incredible reference tune. Intense acoustic guitar and vocal with an exceptional sound field that will pin you against the wall.
Got the Sony,s 2 yrs back for $77 amazon open box . Run them with a hybrid tube amp and a 8 inch front firing sub Warmth n clarity ✨️ Good stuff because you Mr Randy recommended them 👍🏻 👌
When i bought my cs5's (and the rest of the set for that matter) i got the cs5's for 68 per pair, sub for 100, heights for 70 and center for around 90. Insane deal and these speakers are still treating me well.
about your experiment to find out the efficiency on 12:05 .... on the same level on your amplifier you must test the exact same impedance value speaker. if a speaker is rated at 6ohm (sony) and the other at 8ohm (klipsch) then at the same volume level the amplifier would push more current to the 6ohm speaker than that on the 8ohm speaker.That means that the power provided at the 6ohm speaker will be significantly increased compared to the power provided to the 8ohm speaker at the same volume level. (A lot people seem to be missing that information) So to make an example if you connect a 32 ohm speaker maybe you will have to raise your volume all the way up to the max in order to pass some current to the speakers and make them play sound.
I have the 2 Sony's SSCS5 and a Sony Sub (did I spell that wrong..and they sound so awesome. I running it with a Fosi Audio BT30D. I use the near field setting...On my couch, I can reach out and touch the speakers....the Sub is up about 3 feet, and it all sits right up to me...and again they so awesome. I'll prefer the Sony's over the Klipsch and it's not even close. For my ears, Kli;psch, the only Klipsch I like are the ones that cost over $15,000 a piece and that is out of the question. The K's tweeter hurts my ears. The Sub, the speakers are the way to go, especially if you're looking for a beginner or just a great sounding system, you can't go wrong with this set up...especially if you take these in the near field system set up.. Next year, I'll get a great 5.1 home theater.
Randy, I am so jealous of the gear you powered this review with. One hell of a set-up! That must have been so much fun. Awesome! Have a great 4th of July.
I started with the Sony and was going to upgrade later but noticed this speaker keeps getting better. I am hearing more bass over time, and detail. My next speaker will have to be good hi end one.
I've had the RP-600m for a while love them. I picked up the Sonys last week brand new for $65 shipped. I was going to get the new 600m's but grabbed a pair of Rp-8000f on a super deal instead. Brand New for less than new 600m's!
Those 8000 are monsters. If you have the space for them I bet they sing. I picked up their older version rp280f on a crazy sale a few months ago, new for something like $800 for the pair! I've only run them a handful of times. They are a bit much in my small listening room but I'm holding onto them because I love em 🤣
Love the channel, lots of good stuff here! it has opened my eyes to a whole lot of fun equipment! That being said. What equipment did you use for your evaluation? How were the speakers mounted? My experience with both speakers in my office system using a Mystere tube integrated tells a different story. Mounted on mass loaded stands of the appropriate height for both speakers, ( I have three sets of older Target lead and sand filled stands, 22" , 24" and 26" respectively) I used 24" stands for Klipsch and 26" for the Sony. The Sony's were very nice, detailed and smooth. Both sets of speakers need to be placed off axis or they will be too bright. Also front wall placement is critical, placed too close to the front wall the bass will be boomy. The Klipsch when placed correctly outperform the Sony's by a country mile. More dynamic with better imaging, much more like a high end speaker. The Sony's when placed correctly sound great too, just not as dynamic and bass shy (as to be expected). Either way they are both winners at their price point. Both the Sony and Klipsch scale well when used with high end gear (I used speaker cables that cost more than both sets of speakers combined). Both sound better with Tube amps as well. A little more information on the associated equipment would be very helpful to making purchase decisions. Heading to the living room with a cup of coffee to do some listening now, thanks!
I have them both. Love my Sony’s. Bought 2 pairs at less than $100. Using them with class D Fosi Audio amps. But I stepped up to the klipsch and paired them with a Cambridge Audio AXR100. Best of both worlds.
Bought the Sonys a while back for $88 as a birthday present for a friend who was naive to audio. Of course I had to break them in first as it was a few weeks before his birthday and I really enjoyed them. I have way better gear now and would love to hear them in my space now, maybe they’ll hit $88 again. Anyways, opened my friends eyes to better audio and he’s since added a sub so he’s coming along. At least I get to visit the Sonys fairly often.
I also prefer detail in the mid and high ranges to listen to rock, jazz, classical music as long as they don't pierce my ears or don't sound nasal, although I crave for zero distortion at higher volumes so I'm in a dilemma with both speakers because I'm deciding between the two. Is there a speaker that sounds like the Sony but has a better freq response at higher volumes, also near the price range?
I tried both the SSCS5 and the original RP-600Ms to go with my vintage Yamaha receiver. I learned later that Yamaha + Klipsch is not a great combo (really shouty and fatiguing), but I am in complete agreement here: the SSCS5s just sounded better! I ended up selling the SSCS5s to the father-in-law, returned the Klipsch, and got the ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52s instead. I'm absolutely in love with the ELACs, but the lesson is the same: SSCS5 > RP-600M. Glad to see my subjective listening experience validated--thanks, Randy!
Heads UP, the Polk R200 bookshelf speakers just went down to 699 $ on Amazon, From what I have been hearing for the pass 5 months is these are the speakers of the year. I think the M600 2 are very good but 300 $ over priced compared to what the R200 Polk's can deliver. I also do think R200 vs m600 2 would be an awesome review.
Amazon Prime Days July 12th and 13th. Maybe the SSCS5s will go on sale again? I have the original rp600ms and the sscs5s. I like to rotate them. Fills my soul with happiness. Great videos
Hi Jay, can you make a little comparison between the two? I have the Sonys and elac b6.2 in my bedroom, I can switch A or B so both are connected. Yes I love the sonys but when I switch back to the elacs everything gets bigger and fuller and engaging. That’s why a love audio and music… we’re all right
I own both the Sony and the klipsch 600m gen I. I can see where the Sony has the edge in crispness, but once you add a woofer, the smaller sound of the Sonys become a problem because they are nowhere close to matching the punch your woofer gives making the sound uneven and unmatched, which is why I switched to the Klipsch. I have a 1000 watt SVS pro woofer and the Sonys just sound like tin cans in comparison. Klipsch 600m fills up the whole room at all volumes, matches the bigger sound of the woofer, and performs excellent for both movies and music.
The SSCS5 is a really good speaker at low to mid volumes but the different iterations of the Klipsh RP160/600's will wipe the floor with that speaker at higher volumes. You kind of said it but as much as I really like the Sony, it is awful if you want to crank it up. I have an office room with an old Technics running the SSCS5 and RP160s on the A/B. I run them both at the same time and you get the best of both worlds. The detail of the Sony at lower levels with the depth of the bass from the Klipsch work surprisingly well together. If I really want to rock out, I turn the Sonys off...
Or you can fill out that power with the Sony SACS9 active sub from the same line. For about $200 more (or $100 on sale) you get an incredible combo. These speakers are waaay happier at higher levels with the bass cut off and routed to a sub.
@@lukastemberger But that's the one criticism with the sscs5, you can't crank them without bass support one way or another. I only paid $35 to a dude who said "they suck" so I'm not really complaining. I still see them as a small room/office speaker... a background music speaker, but its really good for that.
After watching this vid I put my Sonys back in service as my music mains (w/Pro-Ject X-1, Moonstone cart, Mac MA252, Elac 3010 sub). Last night I listened to Clapton Unplugged (2012 Bellman@Grundman cut) on my Fortes. Nice as you could imagine. Swapped in Sony’s tonight, same album, yes some more detail! More 3-d and immersive in some ways. Wider. Played nice with sub. Then I threw Kenny Durham Matador (Impex) at them. Trumpet sound is amazing and I can hear the breaths. I can hear the room. And somehow I’m hearing less record surface noise. How can this be? It’s 1 am and I don’t want to turn them off. Forte IV’s forever, but Sony’s make me smile like I’m cheating on my taxes! My CS5 story: Bought on CAM recommendation. $80 dollars @ BB minus $50 in reward zone= net $30. Wish they had magnetic grilles. Randy, do you prefer grilles on or off?
So Randy would you say , For the Money the Sony is Excellent for the money 💰But here is another ? Would the Sonys be good surround speakers for a 5.1 , 7.1 Etc system??
Hey Randy, your videos are awesome and I've been watching them for a while. I decided a while ago to pick up the RP-600M's when they went on sale for under $400. Thanks to this video I saw they're now on sale for under $400, but with the new RP-600M II's out I'm thinking I should instead wait for those to go on sale. In your best guestimate with the RP-600M II's being somewhat new, do you think they'll end up on sale anytime soon and if so do you have any questimates on when? I know Klipsch tends to do a "Christmas in July" type event where from what I've heard almost all of their stuff is ~50% off, but not sure if they'll do that with the new speakers and if so when in July it would be. It seems they have a Summer Sale for 50% off on select items but that's about it right now. Thanks again and keep up the awesome work!
Dunno if you watched the review but he liked the gen 1 sound better. Measurements say that gen2 should be better but Randy trusts his ears, so it’s probably better for you to listen physically yourself. Amazon has a generous return policy so you might want to AB them.
I have the Sonys. I think they are great. Of course, there's always the itch to "upgrade" to something better. But I think I'll get a bigger benefit from Dirac room correction rather than buying a more expensive speaker. It's not all about the speakers or components, it's also about the room.
@@tidsbids6199 I try to stay disciplined. Plus, I think we're entering the age of advanced DSP/room correction where the very minor differences that component changes offer will be eclipsed by the changes, tweaks and improvements that DSP offers. As you can tell, I'm not a purist. I just care about the sound that hits my ears.
Thank you for convincing Laura to go listen to the k, the s and a few more brands. Sticker shock, brought cash , and two suvs to haul system. The 2120 does the 92 db efficiency, great match I knew what she liked sound wise..
I got the sony while ago and I was shocked how many things I heard that I have never heard compared to my Sennheiser Over Ear Headphones. Really glad I got them as per your recommendation.
It may have something to do with my smallish room and close proximity to the wall or something, but I just got the SSCS5 along with Fluance Signature Series bookshelfs and I really wasn't feeling the Sonys that much because of a bit of boomy bass that was distracting. I felt like there was a pretty obvious improvement with the Fluance in terms of accurate/deep bass. I'm going to hook up the Sonys again and make sure I can compare both pairs after they're properly broken in though. Last decent stereo I had was a few years back and I had EPI M50s, definitely feeling like I need to get those repaired after hearing both of these new speakers so far.
Great review. Your speaker sensitivity comparison raised a few questions for me. Are the specs provided by manufacturers worthy of reference? And are the so claimed "high sensitive" speakers more suitable to the tube amps a fact or myth? Would you prefer matching tube amps with Sony or Klipsch?
I'm still amazed at how many youtube reviewers beat up on the Sony's. IMO, a lot of it is just speaker snobbery. They really are an excellent speaker, and a serious steal if you can et them on sale. I got mine for $73 on Black Friday a couple of years ago. Having said, I doubt most would think they beat the RP-600s. I have the version one, and they will beat the Sony's, though the different is not nearly enough to justify the price. Used with a sub, the field is further leveled.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt There are several youtubers who roasted the Sonys for being too bright, mostly the measurement guys. While they are slightly forward in their treble, it's not bad at all. No one expects them to be $10,000 speakers, just very good sounding budget speakers. When they go on sale they are a steal!
Wow great review Randy. I just love hearing reviews and dreaming about speakers! Well it sounds like who ever did the Sony's needs a raise...I wonder if you have or would do a indepth video on what makes the Sony speaker magical? Is it the housing or the parts used...combo of both?!? Happy 4th of July from Canada 🇨🇦.
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Randy, how can the room have effects on sound when listening in the near field? Seems your tight equilateral would control for that.
@@peytonsnead3114 rear wall can still add some room gain. If I had them in the middle of the room then probably not. The reflections aren’t an issue that close
@@cheapaudioman i owe you a hearty thanks for getting me back into the hobby. I took a hiatus for quite a while.
Keep 'em coming, Randy. You occupy a unique niche and provide huge value to all of us.
I agree. Randy is great!
Love your channel, Randy. I'm a a home recording musician. A producer's job is often to make sure that all listeners can appreciate recorded sound on varied sources. Since we often need a "regular listener" reference, I bought the Sonys to check my mixes on "a regular person" setup. I used a Fosi audio $85 amp. I actually found myself enjoying the recordings in the near field, when monitoring mixes on them. I am still chuckling at how good they sound at low volume and at about 3-5 feet. They were a bit wobbly at 15 feet and beyond, because they suffer from too much of a delta between direct and reflected sound, but they are indeed, IMO, somewhat of a unicorn. Your reviews are unabashedly honest with the caveat that subjectivity cannot be avoided, and I find that useful info!
Great review Randy. I've actually had 2 pairs of the Sony's over the past few years and never disappointed. Currently have the Klipsch RP-6000F II's. Yes, totally different presentation. Even though they are not the RP-600M II's, their signature follows through on the towers.
My personal budget darling is the Neumi BS-5. LOVE that speaker! Also have the Emotiva B1+ which is also fantastic!
Happy 4th!
I got the Sony speakers about a year ago on sale. They are in a small to medium sized listening area. They are very good. And coupled with an admittedly mediocre powered subwoofer and an older Kenwood receiver (35 watts at 8 ohms) I am very happy. This combo can reveal deficiencies in the DAC of an older Sony DVD player I use for CD playback.
Your love for the SSCS5 has single handly made me buy them 😂 just getting started with home audio experience but they were 66 on Amazon the other day so snagged them. Looking forward to the journey
Hoping to find a pair under 100 this BF myself
I’ve had four different pairs of speakers. My first pair was the Sony CSS5. Second was the Klipsch RM 15, a cheap set of Polk from Best Buy and the Kef Q 150. Equipment is Denon PMA 600NE. I still have the Sonys after 3 years as well as the KEFS, the others went back. Spot on review, just wish I’d bought a few more pairs at $73
Thanks for the review, just picked up the SSCS5s for $123, AIYIMA T8 6N3 Digital Tube Preamplifier for $139, and AIYIMA A07 TPA3255 Power Amplifier for $ 64.99 on amazon. This is my first system and I am attempting to give my digital library (PC) some warmth and personality. Wish me luck and again, Thank you.
Ordered a pair of the SSCS5s, a Mission 10" sub and an Aiyima D03. Blown away by the sound. Clear, full and can crank way louder than I like to listen.
Makes movies boom like they should.
Thanks Randy for pointing me in the right direction.
I've been a fan of this channel for well over a year now and I think this is the best review he has ever done. It's brutally honest. The genuine conflict in his voice and demeanor is as great an indication of his sincerity as I've ever heard. I am not in market for new gear, but I am now keeping my eye on the SSCS5, because I'm going to pull the trigger on them as soon as the price comes down.
Do it. I still can't quite find the right replacement for the Sony's in my 2 channel stereo room.
@@Eron55555 My dailies are Dynaudio Special 40s, so they’re in no danger of being immediately replaced. My thinking is that I would use them as my A+B speakers with my new Fosi V3, which I love. So, you know, we’ll see what happens. Though the Sony’s are starting to seem overpriced for what is an older, if excellent, speaker.
@@weirdfishes9961hola, lograste comprar los Sony finalmente?
Hey Randy, I concur with your assessment. I own both and the main reason I purchased the Mark 2 was for the bass as I have a low powered Cambridge AXA 25. But I unapologetically love my Sony’s and recommend them to anyone who asks my opinion on affordable speakers.
I've seen a couple of reviews that paise the Sony SSCS5's. It's really amazing that such an economical speaker can out perform a more expensive speaker on so many levels.
I grabbed a pair of the Sonys at $88 after your first or second review of them. They are amazing but missing a little low end. Grabbed a pair of KLH 12’s at Goodwill. I have $110 in the two sets and paired together, they sound absolutely fantastic. I cannot imagine a better sounding setup and get giddy every time I listen to them.
I think that most people buying these speakers would use them as a 2 channel system, vinyl, CD's, streaming... but not placed just 3 feet apart and listening from only 3 feet away. I do have the RP600M in my modest vinyl and CD setup, they are placed 9' apart and my comfy chair 14' away. I keep the grills on and minimal toe in and 1' away from the wall. After months of being unhappy with them "something happened" and now they sound really good and the best sound I get is with well recorded jazz albums and less with rock, go figure! Power comes from an SX550.
you got used to the sound signature, I rotate a couple of speakers/amps due to this reason
@@Daminlk Could be, but I went from being totally disappointed but being too lazy to send them back, to really liking them. Power will now come from an SX780 that I just got back from servicing. Yes, I am totally hooked to the old stuff!
It would be great to see more SSCS5 comparisons to more expensive speakers. Thank you Randy.
I think I’m going to do just that
Another great video. I have the Sony SSCS5 in my bedroom with a Pioneer Receiver and the 1st Gen RP-600M in my listening room with a Denon receiver. I find myself preferring to listen to music in my bed room. I have switched rooms and receivers to see if that was the difference but I have determined the Sonys just sound better overall. The main difference is how loud I am listening. If I am really cranking it, usually with some alcohol influence, the Klipsch hold together better and punch harder but IMO at lower levels the Sonys definitely sound better.
It's the size and acoustics of the rooms. Try the Klipsch in your bedroom and the Sonys in the listening room.
Ive recommended the Sonys to so many people that love clear sound but are not audiophiles. Those Sonys with a sub are perfect for most of the people happy with the home theater type of sound. I run in both circles and just my 2 cents when compared to my Infinity Kappas or PSB Stratus 2 channel set up is where the Sonys can't compete is in how natural it sounds. Also the Sony's have a resonance which is quite audible if you are used to more expensive speakers but not super noticeable. Is it worth the extra price... Not to 90 % of the population I'm guessing... The Sony's pack real value and the imaging is crazy.
Randy, you are absolutely correct, the Sony's have more clarity and detail than anything else in the price range and about $300.00 additional. I have 2 pair and have begun going back thru all of my music enjoying all that that was covered up and there was a lot. Keep up the great work!!!
Excited to see an RP-500m ii review!
Erin's Audio Corner on YT has measured way lower db efficiency on a few klipsch speakers now, compared to klipsch's own specs.
I don't *think* there is a standard for measuring efficiency so manufacturers can do things differently than the typical 1w @ 1meter that most expect. If I recall correctly, this is what Klipsch was doing. Not an outright lie, just a different way of measuring.
Klipsch are crap for what they offer.
@@erics.4113 Manufacturers can do whatever they want, but it hurts us, the consumer, if they don't follow standards. So we should be advocating they follow standards so we get TRUTH with no grey area. Klipsch is a HUGE company with plenty of money to do everything the right way. They are one of the biggest speaker manufacturers for regular people that don't know anything about the specs or how they're gathered, so the Klipsch specs will always look better on paper. It's misleading, pure and simple. The FR numbers are also from in-room response, so the stated bass extension is always better than other manufacturers.
Point is, they have plenty of money to buy a Klippel NFS or even build a state of the art anechoic chamber(hell, they probably already have one) but they choose not to. Instead they mislead unsuspecting consumers for more sales.
Randy you can't use horns for near field man. Unless you use the new syth backstop!
I got a pair from Amazon warehouse for $55. original package was damaged so they repacked them!! Not a bad deal, and I love ‘em.
If you were listening to dance techno pop stuff in a big room for a party or want to listen to guitars and stuff that's different genre they make a difference... recording formats like six or seven of those it's hard to get it dialed in but it's fun
Understated in so many ways. Pair them up with a subwoofer and humble most comers in this category of speakers at much much higher price points. Not sure how SONY pulled this off, but they certainly did in a big way.
Bravo Randy! Really appreciate your honesty. It really comes down to personal preferences and your preferences are similar to mine on most speakers. Thank you for what you do!
Just yesterday I replaced my front main (Klipsch Synergy) speakers with Sony SSCS5s, which I picked up for $100 as "like new" (they were) from Amazon. I couldn't be happier with the change. The Sony speakers broke in quickly, and started to sound very good indeed after only a couple of hours worth of music. I'm running them in "small speaker" mode off my Yamaha AV receiver, with an 80 Hz cutoff, and filling in the lower bass with a 12" Klipsch subwoofer. They sound amazing. I'm seriously considering another pair to replace the surround speakers, which double as monitors for my digital piano. These are seriously good speakers at the $100 price point. (note that Prime Days are coming right up on the 12th & 13th of this month.)
I have a lot of speakers. I bought those Sony's for 80 bucks from Amazon. I just can't believe how well the Sony's sound. I love em. I do rotate my speakers out for a change. I've got the Klipsch and the Elac speakers as well.
Hi cheapaudioman love your show, I watch it most every day. A few words about this review. While I do admit to being a Klipsch fanboy, my fanaticism is actually limited to the heritage line, so I don't get but-hurt over their newer line failing to take top honors in a review. Having said this, you did say that the Sony loses its advantage when turned up and listened to at normal distances. Seems to me therefore that the review was a little unfair because most people who listen at 1 meter will be at their desk and will wind up buying small computer speakers anyway. But I do see the Sonys as being ideal for a large desk. Thoughts?
I love my SSCS5's! greatest $88 purchase I ever made!! The key is not only setup (small room/near a boundary/crossed over 80hz -definitely for HT!)) but definitely amp matching! The smooth Harman Kardon receiver I use is simply wonderful with em. however, for rock and placed behind a trasparent projection screen in medium or larger room??? ..yeah the Klipsch .for sure
Through the Sonys, Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams." An acoustic guitar appears in the chorus. It shimmers. I've heard the song a ka billion times and never heard that acoustic guitar radiate like that.
I’ve noticed new things too, especially with apple lossless and spatial!
Thank you, I bought theses Sony SScs5 and I think they are great, sounds amazing, I use a vintage deck technics as an amplifier and make a great set up
I got a question, now what, what could be great to mix with these, a subwoofer, what reference do you recommend?
I respect your opinion on these speakers I have these Klipsch setup in a 15 x 15 foot room with a full 7.2 setup and have tried multiple different types of speakers and have not found a better sounding stage as I did with these Klipsch great for music even better for home theater but I respect your input and opinion on these bud
I think you hit on the root of the channel. Affordable gear can sound good. A person doesn't have to spend thousands of dollars to enjoy thier music or movies.
I have friends that make really good money, they don't want to spend thousands for gear, they want something they can enjoy, and something that's easy to use.
I think it's great when you and Drako put together systems that don't break the bank but get the job done.
That's why this is my go to channel for Audio gear.
Randy your opinions and Honesty are PRICELESS...THANK YOU !!!
Hi Randy. Just bought a pair of SSCS5's . I'm taking your advice and watched many of your videos on them. I have taken the plunge. Should receive them a week from now.
Can't wait to hear them.
How are they ?
Finally an honest audiophile channel on youtube. Thank you ❤
It would be interesting to see if your findings would be the same if you listened in a wider, say 2m triangle, more space for better bass. The 600's may need a bit more space to do their best thing. I like the wobbly Sony table . . . a lot.
My Summer rig is the Sony SS CS5 paired with the Aiyima T9 - great sound, great price! Thanks for the recommendation.
I have the same setup, amazing sound and detail even at low volume!!!
Same here! Also a $40 sony dac player feeding the coax input of the aiyima to play cds.
Klipsch makes an "exciting" speaker. However, if you want detail in all aspects of music, Klipsch isn't it. Typically Klipsch bass is sloppy and the high end is overly bright and, as you said, they can sound nasally. Horns color sound. Period. When I was dealing in audio, people would come in wanting Klipsch because someone told them they were the best. I'd get the same thing with Bose. I'd let the customer pick the music and I'd A/B Klipsch speakers against others about the same price or less. Very few bought Klipsch after the side by side comparison. I never sold a Bose system doing this. There are far better speakers for music but Klipsch is great for home theater. I always say "everyone hears differently and has different tastes" but I was right with most people. Love the show amigo !
😎Good stuff, Ron.👍
Nice, I read your comment after making mine and see the same thoughts.
What speaker would you recommend then? Right now on my list is Klipsch, RSL, and ELAC.
I’m new to surround sound speaker and I’m trying to build a 5.1 system.
I'm like you....I want to hear the fingers sliding along the frets, the China cymbal 's dark ring, the fuzz in the tone of a jazz saxophonist. It makes the music live. Detail is everything to me. I was very happy to go with the Sony speakers. As a retired band teacher, I love that stuff!!
Hey Randy I took your advice got the Sonys and the Aiyima T9 amp added some ge tubes, put on an sacd and was blown away. the sound is stellar. Thanks for all the great reviews
Klipsch rates sensitivity with room gain, whereas most manufacturers rate it anechoic. The Klipsch speakers should be 85ish anechoic according to other review measurements.
ahhhhhh no wonder their sensitivity is always so much different
Not quite that bad. Reviews on Soundstage, Audioholics, and Stereophile are pretty consistent: Klipsch speakers rated in the upper 90s will measure in the low 90s. The spec-vs-reality falloff applies to their Reference and Heritage models.
@@theothercasper Yep, since Klipsch refuses to use industry standards for their specs I tend not to consider their products
Those Sonys are super sweet. Some kind of mysterious magic applied to those little box boxes.
I resubscribe to your channel because of this video today. I think you're a nice guy and you don't claim to be an expert, but this video reminded me of why I started watching your channel in the first place. You gave an honest heads up review without straying off topic too far.
Sounds like they are a match made in heaven pair them both together on the same channel with a gain control so volume's can be set in a horses for courses kind of way.
Watching this video I heard a clang in my kitchen... It was your ring contacting the coffee mug! Ha. Gotta love Elac and tubes... Just wondering, if paired with a sub, which speaker to choose? Me guessing Sony.... Good video sir.
I just bought the SSCS5 to finish up my 2.0 system dedicated to music. Believe the hype. They are excellent speakers. The speakers I was using before were Klipsch RP-41s so I don't have high end speakers to compare them to but I am definitely hearing things I didn't in the Klipsch. I got them on Amazon for $123. At this point I don't feel like I need anything better or a subwoofer. Listening to the last movement from Beethoven's 5th symphony and the Berlin Philharmonic has never sounded better or so epic.
Thanks Randy!
My system:
Yamaha RX V385
Cambridge Audio AXC-35 CD player.
Thank you for being honest. Keep em coming please ❤
Hey Randy, you've read my mind! I was so intrigued about how this two models compare, just a day ago! Thank you very much
Hi Randy. Another great video, and more of why I bought, and love the Sony speakers! I left a detailed comment on your comparison speakers under $300. Excellent speakers by Sony, and a great price!
One meter distance and separation of the nearflield setup is to the wrong placement for the Klipsch M600 ii. Makes me wonder if this was really a fair camparason?
Right, it was setting the Klipsch up to fail. Really strange. Also, bass frequencies are well over 3 feet long…
For some reason I think you might find Jethro Tull's "Sossity; You’re a Woman" as an incredible reference tune. Intense acoustic guitar and vocal with an exceptional sound field that will pin you against the wall.
Klipsch RP600M II or Elac DBR62 - Which do you prefer and which are better ?
Have my Coffee Randy.....THANKS AGAIN from a Klipsch Fanatic !!!!! BUT $750 for the MK II's tho ??? NO WAY..
Got the Sony,s
2 yrs back for $77 amazon open box .
Run them with a hybrid tube amp and a 8 inch front firing sub
Warmth n clarity ✨️
Good stuff because you Mr Randy recommended them 👍🏻 👌
When i bought my cs5's (and the rest of the set for that matter) i got the cs5's for 68 per pair, sub for 100, heights for 70 and center for around 90. Insane deal and these speakers are still treating me well.
about your experiment to find out the efficiency on 12:05 .... on the same level on your amplifier you must test the exact same impedance value speaker. if a speaker is rated at 6ohm (sony) and the other at 8ohm (klipsch) then at the same volume level the amplifier would push more current to the 6ohm speaker than that on the 8ohm speaker.That means that the power provided at the 6ohm speaker will be significantly increased compared to the power provided to the 8ohm speaker at the same volume level. (A lot people seem to be missing that information)
So to make an example if you connect a 32 ohm speaker maybe you will have to raise your volume all the way up to the max in order to pass some current to the speakers and make them play sound.
buying a new computer to upgrade your ram: just apple things
Mac. Sealing most computers so you can’t work on them, since 2012.
😂
Why have you not made a comparison video on the SS-CS5 crossover mod vs. stock SS-CS5 ?
I have the 2 Sony's SSCS5 and a Sony Sub (did I spell that wrong..and they sound so awesome. I running it with a Fosi Audio BT30D. I use the near field setting...On my couch, I can reach out and touch the speakers....the Sub is up about 3 feet, and it all sits right up to me...and again they so awesome. I'll prefer the Sony's over the Klipsch and it's not even close. For my ears, Kli;psch, the only Klipsch I like are the ones that cost over $15,000 a piece and that is out of the question. The K's tweeter hurts my ears. The Sub, the speakers are the way to go, especially if you're looking for a beginner or just a great sounding system, you can't go wrong with this set up...especially if you take these in the near field system set up.. Next year, I'll get a great 5.1 home theater.
Randy, I am so jealous of the gear you powered this review with. One hell of a set-up! That must have been so much fun. Awesome!
Have a great 4th of July.
I started with the Sony and was going to upgrade later but noticed this speaker keeps getting better. I am hearing more bass over time, and detail. My next speaker will have to be good hi end one.
Glad you are enjoying them. I have a pair and am in love.
@@stale_. me too. Love them.
Klipsch deserves a bit of this because of their pricing !!
To be fair, Sony also has a "3 tier" pricing policy; similar to what Klipsch does.
@@NeilBlanchard To be honestly fair I expect alot more out of klipsch with their supposed heritage!!
@@NeilBlanchard I know Sony has been widely sold at the $73 tier many, many times for the last 5 years.
@@daveclark8337 It's doubtful they will be that low again. They have a $228 MSRP, $180 medium, and we'll see the new low price at some point.
I've had the RP-600m for a while love them. I picked up the Sonys last week brand new for $65 shipped. I was going to get the new 600m's but grabbed a pair of Rp-8000f on a super deal instead. Brand New for less than new 600m's!
Those 8000 are monsters. If you have the space for them I bet they sing. I picked up their older version rp280f on a crazy sale a few months ago, new for something like $800 for the pair!
I've only run them a handful of times. They are a bit much in my small listening room but I'm holding onto them because I love em 🤣
Love the channel, lots of good stuff here! it has opened my eyes to a whole lot of fun equipment! That being said. What equipment did you use for your evaluation? How were the speakers mounted? My experience with both speakers in my office system using a Mystere tube integrated tells a different story. Mounted on mass loaded stands of the appropriate height for both speakers, ( I have three sets of older Target lead and sand filled stands, 22" , 24" and 26" respectively) I used 24" stands for Klipsch and 26" for the Sony. The Sony's were very nice, detailed and smooth. Both sets of speakers need to be placed off axis or they will be too bright. Also front wall placement is critical, placed too close to the front wall the bass will be boomy. The Klipsch when placed correctly outperform the Sony's by a country mile. More dynamic with better imaging, much more like a high end speaker. The Sony's when placed correctly sound great too, just not as dynamic and bass shy (as to be expected). Either way they are both winners at their price point.
Both the Sony and Klipsch scale well when used with high end gear (I used speaker cables that cost more than both sets of speakers combined). Both sound better with Tube amps as well. A little more information on the associated equipment would be very helpful to making purchase decisions. Heading to the living room with a cup of coffee to do some listening now, thanks!
I have them both. Love my Sony’s. Bought 2 pairs at less than $100. Using them with class D Fosi Audio amps. But I stepped up to the klipsch and paired them with a Cambridge Audio AXR100. Best of both worlds.
Hooked the Sony's to the sony1080 receiver and was amazed at the bass and clarity
Bought the Sonys a while back for $88 as a birthday present for a friend who was naive to audio. Of course I had to break them in first as it was a few weeks before his birthday and I really enjoyed them. I have way better gear now and would love to hear them in my space now, maybe they’ll hit $88 again. Anyways, opened my friends eyes to better audio and he’s since added a sub so he’s coming along. At least I get to visit the Sonys fairly often.
Let's put this in another way. Randy is saying you can buy the Sony's, pocket about $500, and still be satisfied.
IF. You listen at a distance of 3 feet like he admitted to doing during his review. Most people don’t.
I also prefer detail in the mid and high ranges to listen to rock, jazz, classical music as long as they don't pierce my ears or don't sound nasal, although I crave for zero distortion at higher volumes so I'm in a dilemma with both speakers because I'm deciding between the two.
Is there a speaker that sounds like the Sony but has a better freq response at higher volumes, also near the price range?
You are right, the sensitivity of the klipsch is 86dB @ 2.83v/1m, despite Klipsch rating this speaker at 94.5dB
I tried both the SSCS5 and the original RP-600Ms to go with my vintage Yamaha receiver. I learned later that Yamaha + Klipsch is not a great combo (really shouty and fatiguing), but I am in complete agreement here: the SSCS5s just sounded better! I ended up selling the SSCS5s to the father-in-law, returned the Klipsch, and got the ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52s instead.
I'm absolutely in love with the ELACs, but the lesson is the same: SSCS5 > RP-600M. Glad to see my subjective listening experience validated--thanks, Randy!
So glad I got my Sony SSCS5 speakers at a real estate sale for $25!! Brand new.. 😁😁😁
Heads UP, the Polk R200 bookshelf speakers just went down to 699 $ on Amazon, From what I have been hearing for the pass 5 months is these are the speakers of the year. I think the M600 2 are very good but 300 $ over priced compared to what the R200 Polk's can deliver. I also do think R200 vs m600 2 would be an awesome review.
Excellent review. Thank you! Off topic but what watch are you wearing? It looks cools.
Amazon Prime Days July 12th and 13th. Maybe the SSCS5s will go on sale again? I have the original rp600ms and the sscs5s. I like to rotate them. Fills my soul with happiness. Great videos
Hi Jay, can you make a little comparison between the two?
I have the Sonys and elac b6.2 in my bedroom, I can switch A or B so both are connected. Yes I love the sonys but when I switch back to the elacs everything gets bigger and fuller and engaging.
That’s why a love audio and music… we’re all right
Great review again. Sounds like these Sonys with a Polk 10" $250 sub combo might be hard to beat for the price. Thoughts anyone?
I have the Sony sub from the same line. That sub has a very fun sound, better than the price or specs would suggest. Similar to the one reviewed here.
Other folks have questioned the efficiency ratings of Klipsch stand mount speakers.
The King of CheapAudio did it again! You rock!
I own both the Sony and the klipsch 600m gen I. I can see where the Sony has the edge in crispness, but once you add a woofer, the smaller sound of the Sonys become a problem because they are nowhere close to matching the punch your woofer gives making the sound uneven and unmatched, which is why I switched to the Klipsch. I have a 1000 watt SVS pro woofer and the Sonys just sound like tin cans in comparison. Klipsch 600m fills up the whole room at all volumes, matches the bigger sound of the woofer, and performs excellent for both movies and music.
Curious to know how you feel the Elac UniFi 2.0 UB52s stack up against these. Enjoying your stuff. Thanks!
The SSCS5 is a really good speaker at low to mid volumes but the different iterations of the Klipsh RP160/600's will wipe the floor with that speaker at higher volumes. You kind of said it but as much as I really like the Sony, it is awful if you want to crank it up. I have an office room with an old Technics running the SSCS5 and RP160s on the A/B. I run them both at the same time and you get the best of both worlds. The detail of the Sony at lower levels with the depth of the bass from the Klipsch work surprisingly well together. If I really want to rock out, I turn the Sonys off...
Or you can fill out that power with the Sony SACS9 active sub from the same line. For about $200 more (or $100 on sale) you get an incredible combo. These speakers are waaay happier at higher levels with the bass cut off and routed to a sub.
@@lukastemberger But that's the one criticism with the sscs5, you can't crank them without bass support one way or another. I only paid $35 to a dude who said "they suck" so I'm not really complaining. I still see them as a small room/office speaker... a background music speaker, but its really good for that.
@@fallrecords I use them in a home theater 5.1 system and they're very loud and beautiful sounding.
Allow me too swipe my Best Buy card had to pick, but I’m thinking about getting those speakers
What about using the Sony as Atmos speakers on the front, up high, where the primary seating position is around 12-15 feet away?
After watching this vid I put my Sonys back in service as my music mains (w/Pro-Ject X-1, Moonstone cart, Mac MA252, Elac 3010 sub). Last night I listened to Clapton Unplugged (2012 Bellman@Grundman cut) on my Fortes. Nice as you could imagine. Swapped in Sony’s tonight, same album, yes some more detail! More 3-d and immersive in some ways. Wider. Played nice with sub. Then I threw Kenny Durham Matador (Impex) at them. Trumpet sound is amazing and I can hear the breaths. I can hear the room. And somehow I’m hearing less record surface noise. How can this be? It’s 1 am and I don’t want to turn them off. Forte IV’s forever, but Sony’s make me smile like I’m cheating on my taxes! My CS5 story: Bought on CAM recommendation. $80 dollars @ BB minus $50 in reward zone= net $30. Wish they had magnetic grilles. Randy, do you prefer grilles on or off?
So Randy would you say , For the Money the Sony is Excellent for the money 💰But here is another ? Would the Sonys be good surround speakers for a 5.1 , 7.1 Etc system??
Hey Randy, your videos are awesome and I've been watching them for a while. I decided a while ago to pick up the RP-600M's when they went on sale for under $400. Thanks to this video I saw they're now on sale for under $400, but with the new RP-600M II's out I'm thinking I should instead wait for those to go on sale. In your best guestimate with the RP-600M II's being somewhat new, do you think they'll end up on sale anytime soon and if so do you have any questimates on when? I know Klipsch tends to do a "Christmas in July" type event where from what I've heard almost all of their stuff is ~50% off, but not sure if they'll do that with the new speakers and if so when in July it would be. It seems they have a Summer Sale for 50% off on select items but that's about it right now.
Thanks again and keep up the awesome work!
Dunno if you watched the review but he liked the gen 1 sound better. Measurements say that gen2 should be better but Randy trusts his ears, so it’s probably better for you to listen physically yourself. Amazon has a generous return policy so you might want to AB them.
If you're industrial tone deaf like me then yes $150 speakers can beat $750 ones
I have the Sonys. I think they are great. Of course, there's always the itch to "upgrade" to something better. But I think I'll get a bigger benefit from Dirac room correction rather than buying a more expensive speaker. It's not all about the speakers or components, it's also about the room.
Even after you do Dirac, I think the itch you have to upgrade will still be there :D
@@tidsbids6199 I try to stay disciplined. Plus, I think we're entering the age of advanced DSP/room correction where the very minor differences that component changes offer will be eclipsed by the changes, tweaks and improvements that DSP offers. As you can tell, I'm not a purist. I just care about the sound that hits my ears.
Thank you for convincing Laura to go listen to the k, the s and a few more brands. Sticker shock, brought cash , and two suvs to haul system. The 2120 does the 92 db efficiency, great match I knew what she liked sound wise..
Finally a speaker recommended by Randy that’s available!
Thanks again Randy
These or Dali spektor ?
Kind regards and best wishes
What is your thought on the Sony vs. the Elac ?? Would be interesting to say the least......good video again......
I got the sony while ago and I was shocked how many things I heard that I have never heard compared to my Sennheiser Over Ear Headphones. Really glad I got them as per your recommendation.
It may have something to do with my smallish room and close proximity to the wall or something, but I just got the SSCS5 along with Fluance Signature Series bookshelfs and I really wasn't feeling the Sonys that much because of a bit of boomy bass that was distracting. I felt like there was a pretty obvious improvement with the Fluance in terms of accurate/deep bass. I'm going to hook up the Sonys again and make sure I can compare both pairs after they're properly broken in though. Last decent stereo I had was a few years back and I had EPI M50s, definitely feeling like I need to get those repaired after hearing both of these new speakers so far.
Great review. Your speaker sensitivity comparison raised a few questions for me. Are the specs provided by manufacturers worthy of reference? And are the so claimed "high sensitive" speakers more suitable to the tube amps a fact or myth? Would you prefer matching tube amps with Sony or Klipsch?
Great video!! Would you be able to review the Pure Tube Amp by monoprice?? There doesn’t seem to be any video reviews of it on RUclips.
I'm still amazed at how many youtube reviewers beat up on the Sony's. IMO, a lot of it is just speaker snobbery. They really are an excellent speaker, and a serious steal if you can et them on sale. I got mine for $73 on Black Friday a couple of years ago. Having said, I doubt most would think they beat the RP-600s. I have the version one, and they will beat the Sony's, though the different is not nearly enough to justify the price. Used with a sub, the field is further leveled.
Most reviewers liked the Sonys and there is no snobbery. No one is pretending they compete at the $10,000 level so I don't see why you feel that way.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt There are several youtubers who roasted the Sonys for being too bright, mostly the measurement guys. While they are slightly forward in their treble, it's not bad at all. No one expects them to be $10,000 speakers, just very good sounding budget speakers. When they go on sale they are a steal!
Listening to you and my Sony’s sound better already!
Wow great review Randy. I just love hearing reviews and dreaming about speakers! Well it sounds like who ever did the Sony's needs a raise...I wonder if you have or would do a indepth video on what makes the Sony speaker magical? Is it the housing or the parts used...combo of both?!? Happy 4th of July from Canada 🇨🇦.