Mom of 12-Year-Old Girl Who Admitted to Stabbing Brother to Death Breaks Silence
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- The mother of the 12-year-old Oklahoma girl who allegedly stabbed her 9-year-old brother to death is speaking out. April Lyda revealed red flags in her daughter’s behavior prior to the deadly incident. The Law&Crime Network’s Angenette Levy discusses the story with Dr. Angela Arnold, a psychiatrist specializing in mental health.
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This is a very troubled family. There is much more to this 12 y/o girl's story that may come out later. Her stepfather, Levi Lyda, who says he felt like the 12 y/o was his own, tortured a family kitten to death because he felt it was a "burden on the family". He claims he was drunk. Drunk or not, you know when you're causing an animal pain. There are other options to removing a pet from the household besides torturing it to death. And I agree that the mother is in serious denial about her children.
Where did you hear about the kitten part by the way?
Killing kittens is worse than killing humans in my book.
What?
@@alanmeyers3957 what?? They're both messed up but killing another human is magnitudes different. Youre whack
@@alanmeyers3957 well it should be 40 years jail for any animal cruelty.
You can be the most attentive parent in the world, but the fact is, you can never truly know what goes on in someone else’s head. That goes for any relationship. It’s scary to contemplate.
I agree.
You’ve put into words my trust issues.
The girl has severe mental health issues and killed her brother because she was angry. Apparently she was the baby sitter and it was too much. She’s a sick little girl who is not sorry she murdered her brother. She is sorry she is in trouble.
Well, I just found this article “REVEALED: Stepfather of 12-year-old girl who stabbed her nine-year-old brother to death was arrested in 2017 for torturing a CAT to death - and was so violent in jail he gave his cellmate brain injuries” and it turns out her step father is extremely violent. To me, it’s the mother’s fault for allowing her children to grow up around crap like this. He literally not only killed but TORTURED this little girls CAT. Then caused extensive brain damage to another inmate when he was arrested for the animal cruelty. I no longer feel sorry for the mother.
@@keenanicole23 wow ..ty for the info and I have to agree...I don't feel sorry for the mother at all...my heart breaks for the little boy...
It’s very clear the mom is protecting her daughter cause she doesn’t want to lose both children but she has to realize her son deserves justice and her daughter deserves the help she needs
Yea but something tells me locking her up isnt “help”. guilty or not, her mother stil would protect her daughter cuz if she needs help, shes not going to ever get help in prison, shell get worse in fact
@@ilikestarsun Why lock up anybody then? I notice only this ''prison doesn't help'' only gets brought up for one gender
Agreed. The mother is selling her son out for her daughter
@@citycrusher9308Don’t lock anyone up, either help them or kill them, confinement without assistance is torture
@@JoshuaValentine Only for men apparently, when a female does a crime she gets all the sympathy from whiteknights.
Rest in peace little guy, this is so horrific and wild.
😢yes rip 🪦
What do you mean horrific do you mean horrible
@@maddiearchibald-uw4uu it was horrific....
0:32 her name HAS been released, but they been trying to scrub it more than likely. Her name is KAYLEE.. let that little murderers name be known..
Yes I also found the situation extremely horrific! Very sad story..
I remember the doctor prescribed by daughter some medicine for her allergies and she said causally “if she starts getting maniac or getting aggressive or having suicidal thoughts take her off the meds”. I never gave her the medication because WTF.
For real !!!
The most shocking part is the Dr actually told you and you didn’t have to read it on a pharmacy pamphlet.
A lot of medications have some sort of side effect like those. It’s hard when they’re given to children because they’re still developing. Hormones play a big role as well. Obviously something happened with this girl since she supposedly wasn’t on the med anymore. There had to be signs of behaviors before this. There is no way that she was super sweet to her bother and then just killed him for no reason. It doesn’t happen like that.s
Thoughts and prayers to the family may they get the help they need for their daughter.may the brother rest in peace with our lord and savior Jesus Christ. May God bless the family in all ways.
I remember being in therapy for depression and was prescribed medication for anxiety and depression only to be explained that the side effects were suicidal thoughts??? Like what. I never took one and left the clinic .
The mom said in the hospital waiting room that her children don’t get along that great, but sometime after during an interview, she say’s that her children were close.
This Child’s step father tortured & killed a cat, & also cause brain injury on a human being.
I have a feeling there is more to this 12 year olds story.
Yessss she's lying. She also said to the police officer that they had a fight that same day.
She also stated that her child never even cursed. We can clearly see in the full video that the daughter is cursing left and right ands feels very comfortable doing so. I believe the mom is either lying or terribly disconnected to what’s going on. You also make a great point. One minute the kids are close and the next they dont get along.
Agreed
Yeah the mother may be hiding thr family dysfunction
I agree. The mom is defending her daughter because she has the ability to save at least one of her kids in this scenario.
My older brother is bipolar, and it went undiagnosed for 40 years. My childhood was filled with him torturing me. My parents didn't know how bad it was. They wrote it off as normal sibling rivalry. I thought it was normal, too, because I was unaware of any other reality. I still believe there were times he would have killed me if I didn't escape. There is still a scar on my right hand from blocking a knife attack.
I spent a lot of time locked in the backroom, holding the door shut while standing on the counter. I had to stand on the counter because he would stick things (like a knife taped to the end of a broom handle) under the door to get at my feet. I couldn't sit on the counter because I needed to apply pressure on the door without being too close to the crack of the door. He would sometimes stab knives through the crack. I'd be in that position for hours, ready for his sneak attacks, until one of our parents came home.
That’s terrifying and horrifying for you! I’m so so sorry you had to endure that monstrous treatment
My goodness. So glad you are out of that situation. That had to be soo terrifying 😳 😔
I was terrified of my sister, I once nearly got a playground monitor to help, but once she realized she was my sister she ignored it. Only one country game keeper saw she was trying to push me in the lake he was shocked. My dad was worse. The torment of siblings is so ignored and it does feel ‘normal’ at the time.
Im so sorry
How awful! Have y'all discussed this as adults?
According to the mother’s gofundme page, her daughter is coming home soon, I hope her classmates & neighbors are aware of what she did. It's only fair to them. I wouldn't want my child anywhere near her.
The mother has another 3 year old boy at home, no way I'd want them in the same house.
Agreed... and i am sorry to say, yes i know she is only 12 but she killed a little boy, her own brother... is she not gonna be held accountable at all? She stabbed him multiple times... who's to say mom and dad are safe without the right diagnoses and treatment???
@tiger1976 and she has another little brother too. And the one she killed what justice does he get?
The whole family needs to be investigated…the mother is sick in the head along with the stepfather, who tortured their family kitten. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
@@Khoochi the step father was the murdered boys actual father
Daughter is a cutter but she had no previous behavioral issues….oh honey.
Well said!
Hide all the knives right?
Exactly 😂
@@tlgoggans that may have saved this 9 year olds life.
She was not normal with perfect behavior.The mom is also an ex meth addict.
This is so unbelievably sad and devastating to watch. That mom lost both her children that night. So tragic.
Her daughter will probably get a slap on the wrist, even though she deserves life in prison because she betrayed her intent in the Tulsa PD's body cam footage. Juvenile, my rump. She was babysitting little kids. She needs to be tried as an adult.
Wow what an observation. Thanks for your amazing input. 10/10
She only loose one child wtf you talking about
@@adamturek210 stop commenting.
No she didn't. Kids don't get in trouble for anything. That's why I support adult charging and sentencing for all minors. No separate system of justice except for the correctional facilities.
my question is how does this psychiatrist has the confidence to say everything she said without seeing the patient? no patient assessment was done. very unethical
i agree
Look I went through the CRAZIEST 2 week withdrawal from benzos while I was in jail. If I was on the streets and went through that withdrawal there is no telling what might have happened... The things I was hearing and feeling were out of this world and I truly believed every bit of what was going on in my head. So this lady saying that this can't happen from stopping taking a medication is completely wrong!!!
The mom is like, "She's not like this. She's not violent." The mom doesn't know how her daughter is when she's babysitting while the mom is at work. The little girl said, "I really didn't want things to happen like this this time." so she's had to have had some similar violent episodes before.
I noticed that but haven't seen anyone else mention it. "This time"!
I caught it also, but commented on a different video. CLR Chris Rivers
I have a ADHD sister, my parents are in denial of the bullying she did to me bc she had a lot of suffering bc of her mental health and family issues, she never regretted what she did until she got her mental health under control and felt better and happier and she asked for my forgiveness. I must say i still suffer a ton with self steem and depression bc although she asked for forgiveness that doesnt mean that everybody else in the family looked the other way while i was suffering and also they deny my depression. I am completely alone in this world and trapped in this family, that lil boy was surrounded by enemies thats why it happened.
@@JustMe-hg5bq im sorry that happen to you.. my bother use to beat the heck out of me when I was a kid to. He was 8 years older then me to. I think society is to cool with sibling being abusive with each other… “ooo they’re just brother and sister” but if anyone else was doing what my brother did to me they been in jail. I’m sorry your still suffering and hope you find peace
The mother even said that her daughter doesn’t even cuss but u clearly see on the body cam that ain’t true. It came out so naturally which shows that she’s no nunn. More like nun my mom said is true.
They said she had been off the medication for a year. As a teacher of 12 year olds, I have many students with ADHD, some on meds, and none exhibit dangerous behaviors. I think there is a lot more to this story.
No, she was off a medication for a year (that she had reacted to).... but was put on it again recently. From what I understood, she reacted to it & taken off.
@@mystic7275 I agree with Kendra. I also work with kids. The violent behavior came from her home life, not the medication!
The step dad was arrested in 2017 for torturing the family kitten to death. Then while the stepdad was in prison he attacked his cell mate causing brain damage. He likely tortured the kids too.
@@slconleywhere did you find that information?
You’re lying. I was a kid in school and knew kids that would react this to stuff. She clearly held things in and it exploded out in a fit of rage. People just want to accept these things about themselves. It hurts our growth as a society. Your students are clearly being failed if you really are a teacher.
I had a psychotic episode in 2017 when I was 30 years old. I was taking Zoloft for a year already and smoking lots of pot…which is my only guess to an imbalance in myself and caused this episode. Ever since then, I’ve had to slowly build my life back up because at the time…even months after the episode…I felt disoriented and didn’t know what was real or what to believe was right. It’s a scary existence. I pray for anyone experiencing this type of stuff. Mental health is a very real thing to be looked at and comforted.
wow same! I was 17 but also smoking lots of weed, was prescribed zoloft for a few months, hated the way it made me feel so i eventually quit taking it cold-turkey (still smoking though). Made it a few days off of it and I had a complete psychotic break, wont go into details but it was horrible and i ended up missing huge chunks of my junior year of hs
Everything is laced nowadays. The labels always have WARNINGS. 😑
@@_jinxi woah no way?? i had the exact same experience but when i was 16! glad to see i’m not alone
@@bee.phobic omg! i feel like maybe there should be more warnings about zoloft if its affected enough of us this way😅
You had a psychosis episode, not psychotic. Big difference.
“We aren’t out to make big pharma rich.” Exactly what big pharma would say lol
Something made that 12yr old kill her brother, whether it is some underlying psychosis or jealousy or could even be a tumor. But regardless of what it is, you just don't decide to kill your sibling without a reason.
Thank you Dr. Google. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@AskeepbyDawn Their comment is worth reading. Yours was a waste of my time.
@Mike H , I agree
@@asleepbydawn137 glad i could help😁
Maybe it was the fact that western society awards her $11,478 (so far) for killing an evil penis-haver and knowing she will get off scot-free
This girl was not ok before the event. She was a cutter and the mom left a 12 year old emotionally volatile girl in charge of her little brother she doesn’t get along with. This is too much pressure on a 12 year old.
But the mom was home when it happened. The mom and brother were both asleep.
@@wombatnumbat989 stress builds and so does resentment.
@@slconleyWell then. Everybody's waiting to find out what this stress was.
@@vitalucas9452 I’m more likely to believe that this was caused by resentment towards her little brother than believe it was the meds fault that the girl hadn’t taken in a year.
@@slconley true. I was surprised that she did it when the mom was home. I would have thought it would have been that the kids were fighting or something, but the poor boy was asleep.
Thanks so much for covering this … I’ve wondered about this.
The little girl's interests, reading materials, and what she watched on RUclips, social media, etc. at the time period of the incident all needs to be evaluated and taken into consideration. I'm sure it'll be shocking to know what she was feeding her mind leading up to this
Exactly, I bet if they went through her search history, there would be clues.
the police did that most likely
@@hapkido150they did and there hasn’t been anything she was a cheerful girl it’s still ruled as a manic episode at this time
from what ive heard people have said the mom denied treatment for the girls schizophrenia, and she had like a episode (sent this before watching the full video btw so pls lets not make a conflict)
As a criminologist and someone earning a PhD in psychology, I will tell you that this is irrelevant.
I've been on ADHD medication my entire life and cry when I hurt a fly. Murder is murder. Something way deeper that goes beyond medication.
I’ve been on ADHD meds for 25 years. The meds are out of your system in hours, not months. The poor mom is in denial. She had said in the police body cam video she lost two kids that night. She was ready to write off her own child. But now she’s clinging to the only child she has left. I get it. Let her defend her daughter, it’s all she has left.
Same here.
Same
ROTFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That isn't the same though, and psychosis is a real thing. Your experience isn't going to be the same as others. I'm sure there were other factors. Exploring the "why" and not denying that murder is murder aren't mutually exclusive.
I was diagnosed with bipolar at 12 , and now at 29 I have FINALLY been diagnosed correctly as ADHD . Unfortunately, girls and woman especially are misdiagnosed more often with bipolar as ADHD etc present as such in young woman as opposed to how it presents in boys . Regardless of the situation which caused this tragic outcome. I do think this girl has had some type of breakdown. Who knows what she has been exposed to in her short life
I'm 40 and have only just been correctly diagnosed as having ADHD. I've been diagnosed with schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, anxiety, and multiple personality disorder in the past, and none of these were correct, so I know how you feel.
ADHD has nothing to do with this. This girl is just dangerous
Yeah well you can't diagnose bipolar disorder at 12
How is bipolar similar to ADHD
@@LightningFox7the highs & lows it's really a long process to explain on a comment instead just look it up on yotube for yourself
This might be one of the worst things that I have ever seen. I'm at a real loss. I cannot fathom any of this. I heard a story once where a grandfather was visiting his daughter and her family in Missouri. When he was backing up his car to leave after that visit, he was unaware that his young grandson was standing behind the car. The little boy was run over and killed. I remember hearing about that and feeling so sorry for the grandfather, grandmother, mother, father and other grandchildren. I cannot even fathom that type of mental pain and anguish. However, I think that this case tops even that.
The little girl doesn't come across as needing medication. She is lucid, intelligent and sorry for what she did. The question is obvious: Why? Why did this little girl stab her brother three times? It makes no sense.
Maybe she was thinking about something she has schizophrenia so I don’t knw
IF I remember correctly, in one video I saw on this case, the mom didn’t want the cops entering the house after the stabbing. She was reluctant for some reason. I sense there is more to this story than meets the eye.
I heard that too and found it odd at the very least
Wow, I caught that too! Something is very suspicious about the mother too.
It was cause she didn't want her 2 cats her animals getting out .
@@mandy7131 true but your son just got killed by his sister, wouldn't you care more about the situation at hand than your cats. I get it. My dogs are like my kids but in this case I think the last thing I would think about is my cats. I would want to let them investigate as much as possible to try to comprehend the reason she did it. But maybe drugs were involved and the mom didnt want them to find it? No one knows.
LOL! Garfield is smoking a pipe!
No one is mentioning that she was already cutting up her own arms….these kids are in desperate need of help
No she wasn't... Those were wounds she incurred when her brother tried to fight back and beat her to a pulp before hemorrhaging and passing out.
This... 💯
The mother in the interview said she had been cutting herself
@@Zenigundam No, She cut herself
This Dr is spot on with her opinions on this. I have an immediate family member/relative that at 12-13 yers old was diagnosed with bipolar, depression, anxiety, and a host of other mental issues. She comes from a good family, that went above and beyond everything they could possibly do to help her, including admitting her into psychiatric hospitals. She is also a "cutter". She says the reason she is always cutting herself is because she gets uncontrollably angry very easily, to the point she wants to cut the person, but instead of cutting them, she will cut herself. Both her arms look like road maps from all the cutting. She is now of legal age and refuses to take her medications. Very sad situation for this 12 year old girl. Do I think she is capable of doing something like this again, sadly, I do.
The mom said she stopped using the medication because the only time she cut herself before this incident was after having gone on it for a month.
But what the mom has described is very similar to my sister’s situation with ADD. Like creepy similar just my sister is an adult.
I think it’s a one time incident between siblings who didn’t get along the greatest.
But you're not allowed to diagnose anyone under 18 with cluster B's, so not sure how a 12 year old is..........
@@ir9567 yep!
Yeah and the second I realized she is a cutter I was like, I think she needs to go to a mental hospital not prison. She needs help.
I have no idea how the mother is in one piece. My whole life would crumble in front of me if this happened to me. Just dont even know what goes through young people's minds nowadays, I never had a thought ever to kill my sibling at 12 years old no matter how upset, stressed out, or angry I was.
She threw the knife out the window after murdering her brother. She knows exactly what she did. Lock her tf up until she meets her brother again.
thats crazy
He died
she had mental health issues. i repeat, she had impossibly uncontrollable psygological issues, and she had a psychotic episode of schizophrenia causing her to stab her brother out of counciousnes. not her fault at all. rest in peace to her brother, but NOT. HER. FAULT.
/r/stupidpeopleyoutube
@@ebela1869.it’s still her faul tf are you yapping about? Mental illness does NOT excuse murder, lock her up
Something is definitely going on in this family. The mother is in denial because she feels guilty. The girl knew what she was doing or she won’t have apologized for doing it and ask the police if she was going to jail.
yes the mom is guilty of bringing a maniac in the house and having him around her daughter and now this is happening. smh. the moms got to stop having these men in the house iwth their kids.
Yes, because mom said she rarely let her son sleep on the couch but why? Does your son need to sleep behind a locked door?
@@mariem8705 yeah that's very weird to
People can be in psychotic states and come out of them aware of what they've done you know
Honestly I think the mom is trying to save at least one of her kids out of this situation so she’s trying to find ways to justify it.
I just believe that there is SO much more to this that has yet to come out. Give it time.
I have had adhd and im bipolar too, for 25 years
Being hyper/manic does not mean, you go around and killing people. This misunderstanding need to stop.
Schizophrenia or a psycotic episode could lead to this
I was diagnosed with adhd at 12 and later diagnosed with bipolar disorder at 25. It explained all of the self destruct episodes I had where, when asked why I did them, I honestly did not know.. thank god I never hurt anyone, but I did hurt myself so badly I ended up in the hospital. I really feel for her. Automatically labeled a monster by everyone watching but I know she was struggling with mental illness for a long time and when you’re so young, you don’t know what to do to get help
That's exactly what I thought. Don't ask me why I did what I did as a child, no sane person would do stuff like this. It doesn't excuse any bad behaviour, but it means we need to be able to help children properly from a very young age on.
Also, the two ladies in this video don't seem to know anything about modern psychology...
The second sad thing is to be in need of ongoing psychiatric care, and be put in charge of your siblings while your mother works. Babysitting your mother’s children when you are a child yourself is extraordinarily stressful and unfair. This child had so much working against her, but that doesn’t make stabbing your brother to death totally understandable and acceptable. The mother knew her daughter was not capable of taking on the role of adult. She knew it and did it anyway. Why? I suspect the man in the house was the real monster.
🩷🫶🏻🩷
I completely agree
This family has many dark secrets waiting to be revealed. This had nothing to do with a medication she hadn't been on for a year. I do believe it has to do with trauma she has suffered in her short life.
I think so too.
In another RUclips, I read she had talked about doing this to his brother….so this was already in her mind?
@whiteAfrikkkanNun the stepdad was abusive and killed one of the family pets. There does seem to be quite a bit of trauma there
Trauma can open spiritual doors. I believe this was an episode of diabolical oppression in nature. For those who know the biblical truth of God's word, she was influenced by a demonic spirit. She even said it didn't feel like it was her. That's bc it wasn't. That's what happens when a demon takes over your body. And for everyone who thinks demons are made up, sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
I agree. Things don't add up
I'm so sorry for your loss I couldn't even imagine your pain of losing both of your children in different ways
Love how stern the doctor was even in question the mother’s actions. She kept it professional.
I am thinking from what I hear from the mother right now is that she has made excuses for this little girl most of her life and this was a horrible thing that happened and she still making excuses for her💔
Yup!! At the hospital she said they NEVER got along but it wasn't that bad!! 🥴 She made excuse after excuse! She said the grandparents of the boy treated her like their own she was jealous!! 🥴
I think the mom doesn't want to lose another child so she's protecting her daughter... idk this case is giving me jonbenet vibes
Ok
I worked many years with an independent living home and saw how the changes in meds affected our clients. We had one client who had 17 med changes in one year. He went from being the sweetest to being extremely violent. We found another client trying to jump out a window and luckily it was too small so he got stuck. He had gone through 7 med changes within the year. Side effects on many meds are worse than the problem itself.
duh
Definitely!!
Yes agree 100%!!!!
Meds, making America great again!
Yup they switched my dads ex to Prozac and all of a sudden she dumped him. Then she started accusing him of stalking her and trying to murder her. She was living in his rental and she told everyone he tried to blow her up with a propane leak. Then she moved like 4 blocks away in a little camper you could see easily from the road. Her phone bill came to his house so he made sure she wasn’t home and simply stuck it in the door crack. Then she told everyone he tracked her down. She literally told him she was moving there he had to drive by it every day and you could see her car. It’s in a town of 110 people of course everyone knew she lived there. She was nuts already it just made her even more crazy. F that 🐝 itch anyways.
I WOULD NEVER KILL MY BROTHER BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO GO TO JAIL
Very sad case. I appreciate the dr being interviewed. Their are a lot of mental illnesses that can't be officially diagnosed until 18. It's obvious the 12 year old killed her brother, but I hope she gets the help she needs! I have clinical depression, anxiety, and PTSD. If she gets the right help she may one day have a productive life.
She deserve prison
@@georgejuravlel1352No, she doesn't. This young lady needs a psychiatric hospital for many many years.
If she’s never had behavior issues. Why was she on meds in the first place ? Also. Leaving a 12 year old responsible for her brother on a consistent basis isn’t good for a child. A 12 year old is still a child. So there is no telling what this 12 year old was doing when mom wasn’t there. Wonder if they did a drug test on her after her arrest
That's one of the problems of our society: latchkey kids and parentification. Parents leaving the responsibility of parenting to children is the greatest issue.
The mother said she has ADHD
I bet the girl was becoming sadistic towards her brother for having to watch him. Resentment is a strong motive.
Except the mom was home, son and mom were asleep. She wasn’t babysitting her brother, they were going to bed for the night. She woke up or was already awake when she went into her brothers room. Are parents not supposed to sleep?
They awarded her $12,000 after her arrest. The boy had a penis and was therefore by default a r@pist and this stabbing was merely self defense just like Danielle Redlick and Courtney Clemmey
This is just so tragic, whatever circumstances caused her to snap it definitely wasn’t the poor boy’s fault and it’s such a shame he lost his life. I am so so extremely suspicious of the parents though.
Bro... Could you imagine that being something you'd have to go through before your life ends? Or, hearing someone saying she didn't know why she killed her brother? Let alone witnessing the body?
This family has been utterly destroyed by this one act for the rest of their lives. Talk about survivor's remorse... And, looking at what transpired, even worse for this young girl.
Wow...
She was on adhd meds. She may have had a psychotic episode. The issues can happen years later
@@momof1576 I've witnessed several psychotic episodes, she does NOT seem psychotic in this bodycam footage.
American food is poison and causing ur kids to all be autistic and adhd ....
@@RobPerreault The parents didn't kill the child, though. Why blame them? How many parents left their children together?
The moms in denial. And I understand why. This story is a perfect example of why denial is so dangerous.
Should have checked that childs browsing history. Probably lots of gore and stuff that will twist a kids mind
she is defending her child's murderous. behavior, which is unacceptable.
@@rosejames5172you have a critical lack of nuance
agreed, and where is Dad? why is he not in the story? what's his opinion?
Thank you!
When you have kids with behaviour disorders you make sure no knifes are in the house or locked away
I believe the little girl was really sorry, I think she did have a psychotic break 😔 This is such a tragedy, they need to find out if she was feeling jealous of her brother or if something else was happening to her and she felt powerless. I feel so sorry for the whole family, I can't imagine how this Mom feels 😢
I don't think so because on the longer video she says I'm sorry I don't wanna go to prison. It's all about herself
She is not sorry she knows what she did
She’s sorry she got caught
@Keydamaa You may be right, I just can't help but feel sorry for a kid, but if she did it on purpose she deserves to go to jail, I guess the professionals will know for sure 😪 The real victim is her sibling, so incredibly sad. 💔
@@tt3289well who tf would wanna go to prison
So sad for the little boy 💔
True
That's why my son is going to learn how to fight and sleep with one eye open, especially around women. Alpha
@@Zenigundam how dare you 🤨
@The Guy Bro Wrong.
@TheGuyBro96🤔 what exactly are you saying?
STOP 8SAYING ONLY 12...ugh she knew what she was doing stop making excuses...she stabbed that poor boy 3 times NOT once...
She had to of thought about it before. There’s no way it was spur of the moment
She deserves to be charged along side her daughter.
Harsh words. Mental illness is real 😢 lets hope if it ever effects you, you are less quick to judge.
Justice hasn’t been served and that boys life was taken before he had the chance to become a man. I don’t want to hear another word insinuating this girl or her mother deserves sympathy
This is so tragic 💔 prayers for everyone involved 🙏❤
Prayers for the son and mother ONLY. Not for that little demon
@@A2-Star438 I said what I said 🤷♀️
@@jessicaosteen1462 You’re entitled to your opinion. But the amount of sympathy for this demon is sickening. Had it been a male I don’t think it would’ve been the same
@2:13 Mother says daughter was a cutter. The daughter apparently had a knife in her room. Shortly after, the mother claims there were no warning signs... Makes zero sense to me. Also, at 12 she cusses like a sailor in front of her mom and police. Sadly, the mom is just trying to blame the medication
There were some blazing red flags. Why would you leave a 12 year old child with such severe emotional issues that she cuts herself to babysit a brother she doesn’t get along with.
It’s crazy the moms blaming this on adhd.
The bleeps could be the mother saying her name that they haven't released.
@@slconley She wasn't babysitting. It was late at night. Both the mother and son were asleep in bed.
Well what mother wants to believe their 12 year old did something this awful.. that cannot be easy to come to terms with
@@Akinwalesegun Do you by chance have a link?
She sure does cuss a lot for a 12 year old lil girl and uses the cuss words so many times like she’s used to talking like that. Curious what the truth of her behavior was really like at home and leading up to this. The mom seems to be in denial.
I don’t think the cussing should tell you anything, but nevertheless her behavior can’t possibly have been as good as the mother wants us to believe.
Agreed. Even when the mom was being questioned by the cop she told him that her daughter doesn't even cuss.
@arlissrae5090 Oh I see. Possession then. 😂
She's a psychopath but she has that complexion protection. She'll get more sympathy than inner city children.
Oh please, she’s 12 not 6. When I was 12 I used that language around my friends. When I was 15 I was in a really tragic and horrible car accident. I wasn’t supposed to cuss but because the situation was so intense and scary I was cussing like a sailor.
Let’s not put kids on drugs 🤦🏾♂️
My little brother is 30 years old now but when he was in elementary school and middle school he was diagnosed with ADD and ADHD his doctors put him on a medication called strattera. Within just a week or two he was acting not hisself withdrawn losing weight. And he would make these weird noises my mom scheduled appointment with his doctors and the school she decided to take him off the medication. Which I feel like was the best thing that she could do. He's ok now with no meds I just feel that people should really do their research on different medications and things of that nature it could be very detrimental. And I'm sending prayers love and strength to the family of the 9 year old little boy RIP little one😢
Sorry mom. She's a murderer no matter how much you love her. Someone needs to evaluate this mother. Something was obviously going on.
😂😂😂
Ya she could just be a psychopath. People don’t want to consider this because she looks like a sweet little 12 year old girl.
Krys, I totally agree
Yes
@@krys___ ok poor girl
This mother is in denial.
I feel So bad for the parents losing 2 children at the same time is just so heartbreaking
this case is truly a loss for everyone involved, the mom pretty much lost both of her children zander died (rip) and a young girl goes to jail for a crime she totally comitted but didnt want to. its sad, this makes me sad.
I don’t think this little girl feels bad for what she did to this poor little boy. She seemed only concerned with going to jail. It’s heart breaking. I think this girl girl had issues in the past but maybe her mom didn’t want to admit maybe there were behavior issues. You just don’t stab someone repeatedly in cold blood.
Doesn't matter the boy had penis = r@pist and the stabbing was in self defense just like Danielle Redlick and Courtney Clemmey. She has already been awarded $11,478 for her heroism by western society so look at just how wrong you are
I started to think the same thing when she was asking in the car if the handcuffs was really needed.
She’s 12. She doesn’t understand the full impact of what she did yet.
@@Mamez369 Any 12 year old knows the difference between life and death. That 10 year old boys corpse isn't even cold yet and you're already giving her excuses.
@@aq1184 impulse control isn’t fully developed until 25.
For the mother to have to leave her son's bedside at the hospital to go to the place where they held her daughter is so sad to hear. I can't imagine how torn up she was. The whole thing is heartbreaking. 💔
I think from video that the poor boy had died already by the time she had to leave him. I saw officers discussing whether or not the girl had been told her brother had died?
I wouldn’t have left him. I would let her rot by herself
@@lisab9541 The videos are concurrent, not chronological.
Ok
@@hr-hq8ji me too. I bet she never got spanked.
My heart and prayers are with this mother and her children. This is so awful. 😢😢🙏🏼💔
I'm not really liking how ADHD is being portrayed by this story... I believe there is a significant chance she was misdiagnosed with ADHD and instead is suffering with a different disorder.
The most dangerous kind are the kind who can kill for no reason. I refuse to believe this girl will ever not be dangerous. Keep her away forever. I don’t care if she’s a child. She KILLED her baby brother while he was sleeping. Shockingly evil
She's old enough to know better too.
She 100% needs 24/7 supervision.
Oh come on! People have done worse things.
@@RolandSpecialSauce LOL 😅
The most dangerous kind are the kinds who lack empathy for others. You’re statement is lacking empathy. She is 12. You do not lock up a child and throw away the key. And you should never ever not give someone the opportunity to do better and be better. She is 12. Its not like shes done violent things over and over and over again. She deserves a chance.
As sad as this is I believe the mother is in complete denial and seems she needs to believe it is due to past medication that is to blame! After watching the full video there was an extremely creepy part wherby she stops crying etc when in the police car and in a very normal voice says can you remove these handcuffs I am a good girl! I agree with the Dr Arnold there is a lot more to this bordering on psychopathic tendency.
Of course she needs to believe that. It’s the only hope her daughter has to possibly get off
Absolutely
I seen that too. It was very creepy to watch.
Are you a medical doctor? To say she is psychopathic is ridiculous because one of the defining characteristics of psychopathy is the lack of remorse, even when caught. More than likely she had a psychotic episode associated with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. Both very different than psychopathy which is a personality disorder.
@@Nallisn 100%.
Mommy's little monster...your daughter is a monster
She’s 12 and killed get brother. Her teen years are going to scary.
She went and got a knife and stabbed her brother while he was sleeping 😮 tragic 😥 RIP little man
She threw the knife out the window, she tried to hide it, she had to cut the screen to do that,
If she really freaked out she would either freeze and not drop the knife or drop it and run away, she went into hiding her crime, she may have larger psychological issues her mom is in denial of…the cutting is telling, that doesn’t just come out of nowhere
Cut the screen? How do you know that? My screens open like the window itself.
I forgot about the knife being thrown out the window , that's another red flag, if she had been in some sort of mental blackout due to ADHD or meds , surely you don't throw the knife out the window in a hope to hide the evidence.
It's one of the things to look out for if people claim they blacked out while killing , but somehow had the clarity to cover up for it.
I'm seeing little things that make me suspicious tbh.
Her Mom's reaction seems like she enables her Daughter to do what she likes.
@@steve10 she didn’t hide the evidence if she told them where it was ASAP. Y’all are highly uneducated
@@saysikerightnow6300 she threw it out the window, people do that if they want to hide the knife , whatever happened when the police came after is irrelevant, she might have decided to come clean. I wasn't talking about when she told the police , i was talking about at the moment she stabbed her Brother , her immediate thought was , throw the knife , hide the evidence.
Maybe if you were educated enough you would understand how sentences work before thinking you are clever , especially using the term y'all.
@@steve10 it’s not hiding the evidence she threw it right outside her own window. You clearly do not understand mania or psychosis . Fight or flight . That was her flight .
I have a phd. I’m from south Chicago, we use YALL. It doesn’t make me uneducated . The subtle micro aggression is a nice touch tho .
This is so sad not just for the mom but the daughter to Its even shocking that she could speak after the incident can`t imagine how guilty and heartbroken she felt when they put handcuffs on her this is going to haunt her for the rest of her life not just the daughter but the mother to Im sure that she haven’t done this on an healthy mind and support the family .
She mentioned the math teacher has been gone because of cancer and the day of the stabbing was his first day back
The denial is strong
The killer is very comfortable cussing in front of adults, so probably has boundary and supervision issues. She was also only concerned about herself, barely asking about her brother. I'm not sure what is going on in her home, but I'm sure that having yet another half-sibling with the current boyfriend didn't help the situation, especially when the parents cannot afford reliable, adult child care. This killer needs to pay a consequence, maybe doing time in the juvenile system until she turns 21, then a long term probation, to make a 20 year sentence. She will probably get more help in an institutional setting, more than a foster home. She is too dangerous to have around other children at this time.
Agreed 100%.The mother has to be held accountable to some degree. I feel she is deflecting to cover her own culpability in this tragedy.
So true
@@missymz In the original body cam footage, even though the mother is crying, she goes to the police station, not the hospital with her son. Maybe the police told her to, but not once does she demand to go to the hospital to be with her son. At that point, he has not passed, or the police haven't notified her. Mom just doesn't seem to the best decision making skills. Also, her son's father may have a differing opinion of this situation.
The mother was cussing back at her as well, at least one time in this bodycam footage. That language may have been common in the household.
omg this was so heart braking to watch
Parents always have blinders on when it comes to their children. Denial and willful ignorance is preferable than accepting the truth
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Why is this 12 year old swearing so much infront of her mom? Weird stuff.
This is so tragic. I am from a family where we have adhd, autism and other issues. These issues do cause sudden impulsive behaviour. Even as an adult, it is so hard to constantly control your behaviours. As a child, we don't always have the ability or awareness of how to control impulses. I get the mother completely. My daughter has sudden impulsive behaviours at times that are extremely out of character, but she does not have what people describe as behavioural issues. She is also a good girl. Please don't be judgemental here, even as someone who lives day to day with these disabilities and issues, this is just incompressible. My love goes out to ALL the family. 😪
The lady who is coming up with assumptions is denying the mother’s assumption. Weird.
Mom is in so much pain. She doesn’t want to lose them both. This is so incredibly sad
I believe there is more to this story. I agree with the guest, the mother cannot blame a medication that has been out of her system for a year. Medication’s do not work that way. What made this little girl snap? It was impulsive and the mother will eventually have to face the sad truth 😫
Your brain can def be affected by a medication especially when stopped abruptly. That’s why it’s extremely important to be tapered down. Yea the medicine can be completely out of your body but the changes it has made to your brain are major and takes time to do it’s processes back the way it used to, naturally for her. And this is also why it can take up to a month or two to notice Any effects of the medication after beginning taking it.
I agree, the mother almost certainly knew how evil her daughter is. I have seen cases where family members have to put bars around their child’s door to keep a crazy child from killing them or a sibling at night. She prioritized her daughter over her son
Big pharm wins again. These medications do nothing but create more problems and *insert another medication here*.
@@thrillwillent so, a doctor and a nurse who have given opinions here don’t know what they are talking about “thrill will entertainment?” I see ✌️. Yes, if certain psych meds are stopped and not tapered they can cause disruption, but this mother is blaming an ADHD medication from a year prior as a defense for murder 👀. No way!
@@wvnurse2 we don’t know her full psych history at all. Was she put on medication for other psychiatric symptoms that we don’t know about? If she was, was she compliant in taking them daily? Or was she taking a new medication which caused psychiatric symptoms (It’s rare but it does happen, cause it’s happened to me)
The mom was an x drug addiction. Dads in prison. Stepfather tortures cats..... that little girl is TWELVE YEARS OLD she does NOT understand murder. This happened because of the parents. Let her go. Get her help and find her a better family
I agree that most of that led up to this but I understood murder at 12, you stab someone it’s possible they could die
What were the final charges??
I don't believe for 2 seconds that this is because of medication....or from coming off medication. I think the daughter lost her temper with her brother and freaked out BEYOND!!! She knew what she did, she was apologizing repeatedly so it's not like she didn't know what was going on. I think her brother made her angry and that was the result as tragic as it is. Horrible horrible!!!
Read the comments above about her step father and the history there. He tortured her cat to death in front of her!!!! God
@@collette6103😭😭😭poor kitty
@@crimsoneffix3171 I think the adhd and meds is all a big distraction. Her home life seems to be the place to look
Yes , the meds aren’t at fault . There’s no excuse . This girl probably had horrible parenting and also made her own choice.
Stims can do this.
it's a super fine line when you are medicating the brain of a growing CHILD at such an important developmental phase of their life. My one daughter has ADHD, they prescribed her Ritalin back in 1994 when she was only 4 years old. It gave her such bad nightmares, night tremors, changed her personality completely so bad she was just a shell of herself. I decided to find other ways to cope with the disorder and her without chemicals involved. We used horse therapy, art, lincoln logs, legos, games, any and everything to divert the impulsive behavior and let her have an outlet. It was hard. It was super hard. Today she is a beautiful 33 year old who still thanks me every now and then for not making her take that medicine anymore. She's still impulsive, but she knows how to handle the impulses on her own and recognizes the behavioral symptoms. My heart goes out to this mother, I can't imagine the depth of pain she is going through.
Medication isn’t the best way it’s just the easiest way. They just want the children to sit still all day. Be a good little robot.
Like animals in a zoo show signs of mental illness humans in this zoo we call society are also at a breaking point
We’re not living natural lives authentic to our human nature and it shows
To be well adjusted in an Ill world isn’t something to be proud of
@@hannahoman6790 thats a stereotype. there are many different medications and dosages that can work for some individuals. some people genuinely need to replace a brain chemical they lack, even if they are trying to do every other good habit. that kind of mindset causes a lot of suffering for people who need it but feel like theyre taking the easy way out.
I agree the Pharmaceutical industry are poisoning our kids instead of finding natural ways and there are many, it called patience, faith and determination to help your child find a normal way. I was told that both my sons needed ritilian and I refused and today they are normal thinking men when less trouble. Hopefully this family can get through this awful tragedy. May God comfort them always ❤
I hate to hear that about your daughter but to offer another perspective I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child and took Ritalin for many years when I was young. I never had any of those super negative side affects like what you are describing. Every person is different and can react to medications differently. I stopped taking them around age 17/18. Was unmedicated for a long time but started taking a low dose of stimulant meds (vyvanse) again about a year and a half ago. These medications can be extremely helpful and for those of us who really have a hard time functioning “normally” they make a big difference. The benefits just have to outweigh the risks. Sometimes they don’t 🤷🏻♀️ again not everyone is the same.
I wanted to add that my daughter started taking a SSRI when she was only 9 for severe obsessive compulsive disorder. Some parents my judge me but you don’t know my child. The meds changed her life 100% for the better. She is 15 now and is still doing well on them. She was not functioning before she was put on them. It was totally devastating as a parent and the meds gave me my child back. I’m speaking to other commenters when I say please don’t be so quick to judge parents who put their child on medications. Especially when you don’t know the full story. It’s not ideal but neither is a child who can barely function. ✌🏻
I was prescribed adderall from age 12-16 and have never been the same since. My moods are all over the place and when I’m angry I’m unreasonable. Never had those problems before taking legal meth at a young age for 4 years straight
This Dr is amazing! Any Dr that doesn’t follow societies script is usually a good doctor! Those that jump to conclusions that popular thought follows or society says should be, is hard to come by! Kudos
The mother is in denial.
When tragedy occurs, we look for something to blame. When we find nothing, we blame ourselves. This poor mother is just grasping at anything so her daughter isn't to blame. Terrible situation.
I agree, seems like mom is trying to find something else to blame . She lost one child & is about to lose another. Very sad. While I feel the girl is fully responsible & knows exactly what she did 😠🤬 I do feel bad for mom, & that poor, innocent little boy,
So do you scapegoat the medication?
@@empressannjam1 grief isn't rational hun
You people are not aware of so much out there considered fiction by ignorant peasants. But you same people go to church and act like evil is real but not here I guess. She only cuts her self dorks that's a sign for the few who know about dmnic influence.
@@empressannjam1 nah if they let her off without consequences then it will just tell other adolescents they can kill somebody and cry crocodile tears to get out of trouble later
Very sad case. I had hallucinations a year after stopping anti anxiety meds. Scared me totally. 😮
So heart breaking
No behavioural problems yet if you watch the full footage the officer checking her bleeding arm had been cutting herself as she had old scars on her arms. This is tragic and a great reminder to all parents to always pay attention to your children. 😢😢😢
Exactly, good behaviour must consist of self harm to that mother.
Ya that could more so anxiety related ocd. Body mutilation to self comfort
Exactly. That mums full of crap
The mother left her to take care of her brother a lot while she worked she also took care of her 3 year brother .. to me that’s 🚩.. how is the mother saying all this NOW about her daughter’s mindset but allowed her to stay home and babysit ? .. the mother also in the police body cam footage questioned why the police needed to search her house 👀.. in all that madness .. I would have left the door open for the police to search especially if I had no clue why my daughter done it 🤷🏽♀️
& her mom said when she got arrested that the siblings argued if my memory serves me correct, but, now they are close? Confused here.
She went into her brother's room while he was asleep. After stabbing him, she threw the knife out of a window.
That shows consciousness of guilt.
Smh
100% correct she was fully conscious of her behavior!
She never said she didn't do it. She knows she did it. She admitted it dozens of times. She's just saying she doesn't know why she did it.
@@etherraichuBS! A pork skin girl cries then all of a sudden you defend this BS! A little boy is dead. I have never stabbed one of my siblings. No fkn excuse!!
@@etherraichu why? Because she is a psychotic lunatic who stabbed her brother. Tells me all i have to know🤯
I'm sorry, she killed her brother, medicine or no medicine. Trying to blame the medication made her do this is ridiculous. She came out of the apartment apologizing right off the bat, means she knew what she had done. She is responsible, and needs to be punished. And I agree with the Doctor, she was either mad at her brother for some reason, or using drugs. Because why was the Mom so hesitant about the police going into here home with a search warrant.
Perfectly said, she's a conscious killer.
As a 5yr old I knew what right and wrong is and stabbing my little brother to death is 100% unequivocally clear wrong.
This is the first person I have heard talk about this with some sense! That girl knew exactly what she did and even threw the knife out the window! She apologized to police because she knew it was wrong and she was in trouble and scared! It's horrific that the brother lost his life. There has to be more to this. Parents are the first to deny something is mentally wrong with their child. How long has this mother been in denial?
Best answer I’ve read. She knows what she did and decided to do it. It was *multiple* stabs so she could of stopped at any time but decided to keep going and throw it out the window
The mother wasn’t in denial about her daughter, she has had her daughter in treatment for 6 months, she knows something is wrong, she just doesn’t know what, nobody knows
@@auntyvenom133 she has been seeing someone for 6 mo AFTER she killed her brother
💯 EXACTLY 💯
100% nailed it.
The mother appears very calm, detached and in denial. It's difficult to believe that the girl has NEVER displayed any aggression towards her brother.
the mother stated in the original video when the girl had been arrested.....that there had been some animosity but she had No reason to believe it would come to this....just normal brother sister squabbles.
When the cop examined her arms she had previous scratch marks and fresh ones. The boy usually wasn’t allowed to sleep in the open living room couch but begged to that night. This girl is a psychopath. She goes from cry to completely fine. It’s scary.
Mother in denial. Making excuses for daughter😮
I don't care where your from you always have disagreements with your brother and sisters, and I'd say the mother goes straight to doctor lookin pills saying her child has ADHD ECT and gets pills and then wonders why this happens I'd say if she just had adhd and no pills this wouldn't have happen
@@lizdahl847 the mother should go jail too
this is to painful to watch... cant do it
I’d say cutting yourself is a behavioral issue. This mother is in complete denial. 🙄
She is using the gofundme for legal expenses for her daughter who brutally murdered her son. It needs to be removed. It makes me so sick. SHE IS NOT A VICTIM, this baby boy is!
Calm down drama queen.
You don’t get to decide when and where people decide to show empathy.
This isn’t a daytime soap opera for stay at home moms to spill emotional opinions.
That Go Fund Me money is going toward a vacation in the Cayman Islands. There is no legal defense that can shield her daughter from the consequences.
Report it to gofundme they don't let you do stuff like that and will remove it.
Disgusting! She is a sad excuse. That kid is a mental case. Just listening to her speak is vile!
Her mom is trying to make excuses for her daughter this is a spoiled child !!!! She murder her brother !!!! The mom can stand by her daughter side but we don’t have to!!!!!
making excuses for the daughter she probably was jealous of her brother
I feel so bad rest in peace for the brother and hope the girl gets better from her ADHD
My aunt is bipolar has adhd and another mental health issue that makes her do things but she says is like someone was making her do that and that she is not self counsious .
She has bite someone in the arm really badly, smashed a lot of things and it’s really like a nightmare for her😢
She is now medicating and doing pretty well but my sister was near her when she was out of control one time and now she is scared of her and hasn’t seen my aunt since then