Sunscreen Indoors, Really? All You Need To Know For The Right Sunscreen | Talking Point
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2021
- Singapore’s hot weather is probably one of our country’s most defining features given our location near the equator. Yet, studies have shown that less than one in four Singaporeans use sunscreen daily. Is the sun in Singapore truly damaging enough to warrant using sunscreen daily?
In this Talking Point episode, host Steven Chia finds out just what the sun can do to our skin and if there’s any kind of sunscreen that’s best at keeping us safe from Singapore’s sunny skies.
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Now make sunscreen companies make bigger bottles and less expensive!!! Sunscreen is not only skincare, it is healthcare!!! It should be accessible and affordable for everyone!!!
It's a vaccine for skin cancer
It should be less expensive
Thanks
True
Well it really isn’t that expensive and sunscreen isn’t really that easy to formulate and paying for all the tests that need to be done for new sunscreens and so on isn’t cheap so it’ll most likely never really get any cheaper plus so many sunscreens are putting actual ingredients that you’d find in regular skincare into sunscreen so making it cheaper also just doesn’t make sense lol when its actual skincare but also sunscreen you shouldn’t care about it costing as much as regular skincare products.
@@pattycarljackson I get what you mean and you're absolutely right. But still, there are thousands of people that can't even afford the cheapest sunscreen, and we know most of time the cheapest ones are the ones with bad formulas. So I think mostly they have to make bigger tubes, even more when we're supposed to apply sunscreen every two hours. I was advised to use more sunscreen than usual but I only apply once a day cause otherwise I wouldn't be able to afford any sunscreen.
I wish sunscreens were more accessible and affordable.
Me too 🥺
afforidble and accessible sunscreens exist most of them feel like thick greasy white paint
Well cutting down on cakes n boba compensate enought to buy sunblock🤭🤣🤣
Guardian banana boat
Indians , vietnamese , philipanese crying in corner
As a guy my friends used to laugh at me when I would apply sunscreen as a teenager. Now I'm in my 30s and I look like I am in my early 20s and they look like burnt raisins.
lol! burnnn 🔥
lmao
Don't mind them all that suncreen will be worth it
😂😂
I feel you. They even roll their eyes and tell me what's the logic of putting sunscreen if there is no sun, and when im inside the office...Glad I didnt listen and stay younger than my age.
It's hilarious that the sunscreen company reccommends to apply 10ml to the face everyday. That bottle is 50ml, so it's technically going to last 5 days 🤣 this brand isn't cheap either. It's a joke. Make sunscreen more affordable and it will be more accessible for more people to want to use.
my thoughts exacly, i had that exact sunscreen and it was so expensive i made it last for months even but i had to use so little of it, only once a day, and only outdoors.
Yea 10ml is definitely overkill. The recommended amount I've heard from derms (in the US) is 1/4 teaspoon for just your face. This is more of a blanket statement, as everyone's face is different, but just goes to show you shouldn't take healthcare advice from others that don't specialize in dermatology or any other field really lol
@@briankim5257they say reapply every two hrs if you're out in the sun. So, let's say you're outside in the sun for 12 hrs, you'd have to reapply about 6 times. Maybe that's why they said 10ml a day. I might be wrong though. But, that's the only way what they said makes sense to me.
I have the exact same sunscreen and I use 10 drops instead of 10ml. 10ml is too much of an overkill
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props to the poor dude who has to get sunburnt for the experiment
i felt so sorry for him
I think the era of animal trial is over.
And the rest of his back was a control.
i think the pay was worth it lol
my sister has been drowning herself with sunscreen and moisturizer ever since she was a teenager. Now in her 30s, less wrinkles, fine lines and dark spots. I hate the fact i didn't follow her step earlier in life.
Never to late to start! 😊
What she use to wash off the sunscreens
@@osirusj275 hello, use a cleansing balm or oil as a first step than use your cleansing gel or soap all sunscreen or make up will be gone. Sunscreen has strong structure so only oils can desolve that not ur regular cleasers. You can use heimish cleansing balm if you have korean beauty brands on your country it's more affordalble. Or clinique cleansing balm it is very accesible for most countries. doesn't matter which brand just find a cleansing balm or cleasing oil.
@@sedaozdemir645 thanks for replying... Will coconut oil or any other oil goof for dissolving it?
I don't know anyone with wrinkles in their 30's, that's still young isn't it?
Japanese sunscreens are the best! Not sticky while providing the proper protection. I highly suggest looking into them. Biore is my personal favourite.
I love Biore too! Been using it for 6 years 😁❤️☀️
Yes biore is fantastic.
I use Skin Aqua Super Moisture Gel SPF 50+. it's a very good light weight and inexpensive sunscreen .
I love using Japanese and Korean sunscreens
Yes. Me too. It's the least sticky so it's not annoying to reapply
Poor dude that has to stay out in the sun for the experiment. Hope he get some incentives for doing so
Seriously, 10 mL? That bottle will hardly lasts three usage? La Roche Possay, you tried it.
the bottle is 50mls so technically u can get 5 uses XD
@@510235 as if anybody bothers to measure each time he or she pours out the content.
LRP is liquid. Depends on the texture...I am layering twice....just in case I miss out some areas
@@luvmefood I do
@@iarshintasudjana4382 remember you need 5 ml just on the face and 5 ml on the neck. It's a lot. Don't forget the hands. They age faster cause of thin skin.
When I learned that it helps with anti aging that’s when I started to apply sunscreen religiously.
When you're always on the hunt for the best sunscreen to the point that you know which sunscreens they showed in this video even though they covered the brand label 🤣
At 0:26 from left to right: Nivea sunscreen lotion SPF 30, Etude House Sunprise Airy SPF 50+, Mentholatum SunPlay sport sunscreen SPF 99+ (or SPF 130, depends on the country I guess), Banana Boat sunscreen (idk which one since they tend to have similar packaging), Shiseido sun stick, and the last one idk lol.
And at 15:38 it's probably Biore UV essence but the watery gel one. SPF 50+
have you tried the cosrx sun cream or the sunscreen from purito? After the scandal they came up with a new one!!!
Amazing!
I'm also very into sunscreens, but only into the Australian gold ones at the moment. I'm getting very hard to find the holy grail one that doesn't leave a white cast, is not greasy, applies easily and doesn't empty my wallet after one month.
Do you have any suggestions?
@@user-vj9iw6cv7m i have tried the cosrx sun screen it was not good for my skin it tended to leave a white cast and the purito after having found that it was not what they claimed it to be i din't use it on my face but on my hands.
@@f.a3600 cosrx spf 50 is too high..if only spf 30 around..that would be better for me
@@user-vj9iw6cv7m yeah I've heard of the new sunscreen from Purito but haven't tried it yet. I've tried the cosrx one and I quite liked it but it wasn't very impressive for me as in there are other sunscreens that I prefer over the cosrx one. I also don't like how it's not water-resistant so when it melted it got into my eyes and it stung. Nowadays I don't search for new sunscreens that much because I already found one that suits me really well.
I started wearing sunscreen prescribed by my derm and I noticed my blackheads and oily white sebum around the nose disappeared. It’s the oxidization of sebum under the sun and blue light indoors that caused those blackheads, and sunscreen protects my skin from it.
Thanks to you, i just went out and bought myself an organic 50 SPF+++ cream 😭😭😭 I feel lighter now, my pockets too🥺
Hahahahahha
It works both ways hahaha
XDD girl i feel you. It's all worth it tho!!
But sunscreen is cheapest skincare solution. Don't worry
It's cheapest in the long run.
I'd rather buy one than have skin cancer.
I would say get spf 50 at least. Since most are lazy and wont re apply. You also have to re apply every 2 hours at least. Also there is such a thing as upf clothing. Where it has tightly woven fabric that blocks the sun. Most fabrics block the sun no problem. But some are really thin/cheap/see through. Also upf fabrics are normally thin and for sporting so they can keep you cool and block the sun.
Also gotta wear sunglasses to protect your eyes. Polarized lenses are the best. And you can wear upf 50 hats as well. Also just wearing long sleeve, long pants, light colored fabrics work. And just avoiding being in the sun, stick to the shade. Also you can use upf umbrellas.
What can people who have glasses wear ,i literally go blind without them 😭 can you please help me ?
@@snehagiri2463 You can get sunglasses that you can wear over glasses. They make them, you can google it. Also next time you get a new pair of glasses they can create them with something called 'transition lenses'. Where when you are in the sun your glasses darken in the sun automatically, and then it goes away when you get out of the harsh light. You have a couple options, also they have clip on sunglasses that you can clip on your own glasses.
I'm wearing sunscreen every single day, even though work from home. Because I'm so scared of aging. Ladies please, wear sunscreen, don't smoke and eat less sugar. Those are 3 keys to aging like wine.
*Ladies and gentlemen
I just find it amusing to see some of my female colleagues smoking and then spending on skincare products to take care of their skin. Duh, if you want to really take care of your skin, you need to stop smoking. No amount of skincare product can reverse the damage caused by years of smoking.
@@inumusha7108 Yes. Similarly many bodybuilding guys would enjoy a cigarette as they drank their milk shake after a workout.
I started using sunscreen, I'm even reapplying ( when outside) but giving up on sugar is the hardest!!
Apply sunscreen, use umbrella, eat clean and healthy, workout and lift weights. Avoid alcohol, sugar and smoking cigarettes, vaping and shisha.
Where on earth is she getting 10ml for the face and neck?? It should be around 1-3ml (1/4 to 1/2 tsp) depending on the size of your face and neck.
A lot of people think wearing sunscreen indoor is crazy or not necessary, but for me, it did made a difference. I've been wearing sunscreen everyday since my late teens. I'm in my 30s now and still no wrinkle or hyperpigmentation. However, I did skipped sunscreen on days I don't go out. Last year, I started working from home due to Covid and lockdown, so I didn't wear sunscreen for 2-3 months. I got noticeably tanner, and my foundation was 1-2 shades too light for me when I finally wear it one day to go out. It truly baffled me because it was when Fall was transitioning to Winter and I usually get half a shade lighter. I didn't immediately link it to sunscreen, but after researching about it, I found out about wearing sunscreen indoor. So I started wearing it like how I used to and voila, within a month, I was back to my original shade. It was wild but it's a lesson I'm glad I learned.
Thank you for sharing your experience 💞
what sunscreen are you using?
can you share the name of the brand you use???im 21 and i think im gonna get wrinkles by 25-26 i have already deep laugh lines and bags under my eyes :(
@@fayHoran start to use differin ( adapalene) daily, and use any sunscreen that you can find in pharmacy. Without forgetting to use a moistrizer. I use Cerave moistrizer, adapalene every night, vaseline for my lips and contour of the eyes, and uriage sunscreen ar morning
do you sit near a window?
Jokes on you. I’m only up when the sun is nearly down.
bettercheck your vitamin D or the jokes on you........ (saying as someone who suffers low vitD
I honestly really enjoy the Talking Point series. Have learnt a lot, and Hosts Steven Chia and Joshua are really engaging
Same here. The topics are wisely selected and content well organized.
I get sunburn easily so i have to use sunscreen. As a kid/teenager i used to be laughed at though. Too "vain" for using sunscreen, and it was more "in" to have tanned skin as if it was some kind of statement on how active (physically and socially) you are as a person. Weird logic but such perception exists somehow.
I experienced it too. I even have guy friends commenting I am 'Ah gua'. But at the end of day, my skin is lot more youthful than theirs. That's what matters in the end.
For Singapore Guys during National Service, we cannot really protect ourselves from sun anymore.
It's just the opposite here in India. Pale skin is worshipped 😂 funny how human mind works.
This is really helpful, thank you! The host is practically spelling out my confusion with all the suncreen products (lotion, gel, stick, spray, SPF level).
Please do one more on how to get vitamin D safely from the sun.
Indeed I used to be blasé too another thing about the sunscreen was I used to get pimple when applied on the face. I can remember those days playing football in the middle of the afternoon and getting the skin on the back peel off. Those days are gone now and I am much more careful even though I live in a place where there lesser sunshine than Singapore.
If u want to protect your skin from the sun without spending a lot of money on expensive sunscreen.. here are some important tips for u....
*i know sunscreens are not affordable for everyone because they are very expensive u know,so how can u minimize to apply this sunscreen everyday here are some tips for u...
1)u do not need to wear sunscreen on all over your body if u follow this rule,,,
Wear full sleeve light colour(white and yellow are the best)cotton dress whenever u go under the sun..
2)only apply the sunscreen on the exposed area like face,neck,ears,on the knuckles,fingers etc..
Never forget to apply a good moisturizer or hydrating serum or gel(like hyaluronic acid serum or gel) before applying the sunscreen on your skin..
3)use an umbrella or a hat under the very hot sun,black umbrellas are the best to protect your skin from the uv rays..
4)also you need to take care of your feet,if u wear a open sleepers shoes then wear sunscreen over there, if u wear a full pant with a shoe then it will be good for u and u do not need to wear sunscreen on your legs and feet..
5)daily skincare is good for your skin
*daytime skin care-(in summer):wash your face with a soap free mild foaming face wash,if u have dry or sensitive skin wash your face with normal cold water or Cetaphil gentle cleanser,then apply a water based moisturizer (like nmf e lotion) or hyaluronic acid serum or gel ,then apply your sunscreen(spf 50,pa+++,zinc oxide sunscreens are the best)
***night time skin care(for summer)-it is very important to properly clean your face in the night time, if u have make up or no make up i do not care,u always need double cleansing in the evening time,apply your oil based cleansing bulm or normal coconut or olive oil on your skin massage it then wipe it off with a damp cotton pad or a towel,make sure your make up and sun cream are gone,then wash your face with a foaming face wash or a geltle cleanser like cetaphil....
Then apply a vitamin c face serum on damp skin,then apply a water based moisturizer on it ..u are done,u can use retinol or retin a cream twice a week by mixing it with your moisturizer for anti aging....
&*******for winter skincare(morning)-wash your face with room temparature water in the morning ,u do not need any cleanser or face wash in the morning of winter...
Do double moisturising, how?
U need a lotion base moisturizer and a cream base thick moisturizer u can mix them and apply it directly on your face and hands,then use sunscreen on it,
***night time skin care for winter_u need double cleansing first like summer night time skin care,then apply vitamin c serum,then do double moisturising on it,if u have dry to very dry skin u can apply a little bit of vaseline petroliam jelly after doing double moisturising process,
Be safe ,stay healthy....
Thanks for efforts
Thanks a lot. But I just want to point out something, actives shouldn't be applied on damp skin as it can damage the skin barrier. Please, just a request, kindly correct your content that you posted..
@@dysaniac3807 but my dermatologists says that applying vit c or any kind of anti oxident on the damp skin can be much more effective BECAUSE of the absorbption...
Impossibile to use 10ml of sunscreen every time, just for your face, i mean, the face sunscreen i have it is 70ml, if i reapply during the day i have to re-buy the product after just a few days. That's crazy! And my face would be sticky as hell, i love my sunscreen but not so much to apply 10ml just on the face and neck!
You only need 1.5 ml of sunscreen to cover your face and neck. You can check aad guidelines about sunscreen.
Love Steve's Talking Point. Keep up the good job!
I live in Sweden and I am the only one in my social circle who takes all the neccesary procedures to avoid exposion and effects of secondary factors. I also get info from other radiations such as gamma rays etc. In Sweden they still call melasma spots age spots. I use clothes as protection and when necceseary I use sunscreen with combo filter- it's important to read ingredients and understand the amount of sunscreen needed to get to the protection and don't forget that everything you put under or over the sunscreen may effect it's formula thus compromising it's protection. Expensive brands that are good often times sell thier product rebranded as a pharmacy chain product - cheaper but equally tested dermatologic. Look at the bottles and read factory, producers and ingredients.
Oh thanks for the tips. I wasn't so sure what was in those pharmacy own brands😁
I would be depressed living in Sweden because it’s always cloudy. Life is sad without sun unless your ginger and blonde then they are more suitable with weather like that. For me sunscreen is only in hot summer days for longer than 1 hour outside. I won’t make those companies more rich because they use women’s insecurity also everyone will age and having fewer wrinkles won’t save anyone.
I love Swede women. They are all so tall and lovely.
@@desertmoonlee6631 It's true depression is a common seasonal occurence due to D-vitamin difficency. Supplementing it is nescessary, especially if you have darker skin. The problem isn't wrinkles, the problem is that we get skin cancer and melasma spots is actually skin damage from radiation. My mother and uncle have removed skin cancer spots due to it. Gingers and blonds are more prone to it.
There is a hole in the Ozone layer above Australia so the UVA and UVB rays are much stronger in Australia than in Singapore so that means in Australia you must wear sunscreen daily.
That's why Australian sunscreen is the best. Their regulation is the strictest in the world!
Will you recommend the best n economical spf from Aussie? Applying expensive brands for my face is acceptable..but for body areas...it costs a lot🤧👀
@@iarshintasudjana4382 Check out Chemist Warehouse Australia for that, I heard from the grapevine that it's where Aussies get their sunscreens. Namely Ego SunSense Ultra has a big size budget version.
@@nick554 Thank you👍
So informative & helpful! Especially in Singapore, there should be more emphasis on sunscreen.
I have been invested my time and some money for my skin, treatments and skin products. I'm actually proud to say that I'm 47 years old, my skin still relatively tight, supple and i have less wrinkles than any women my age without botox or any surgeries
You forgot to delve deeper into the pa++ rating system, Steve. You talked about UVB and how it relates to burns, you talked about skin cancer, but the relation between the pa++ rating and skin cancer was neglected and I'd argue, is more important. For instance, how many pluses is enough for skin cancer protection? SPF 30 is just fine to use over SPF 100 so what about pa? Pa++ is a lot cheaper than pa++++ after all.
The topic of chemical sunscreen downsides was also not discussed. Most chemical sunscreens available have active ingredients that are readily absorbed into the bloodstream while Australia and Hawaii have banned most of them for the damage they cause to the oceans. I would have loved to hear what your experts have to say about those topics.
You should follow the Lab muffin beauty science on RUclips she's a chemist and explains so well about the chemical sunscreen and its myths regarding damaging coral reefs :)
Very informative research, thanks
Props to the excellent investigative documentaries as always!
Very informational, Kudos
Thank you very much you guys are great
This is a good episode. I am sold to apply sunscreen after being told by so many older people for so many years. Thank you for all the scientific information:)
Very insightful. Will share this with my students
me too, I did not like sunscreen back then. Because it was sticky. And I noticed my skin is not good ( sun spot and else). Now, Alhamdulilllah Indonesian local products are getting better. I always use sunscreen outside and inside building. It is a little too late, but it is better to protect your skin than not all.
People have been living without sunscreen for thousands of years. Melanoma rates have gone UP, not down since sunscreen was discovered. It's much more important to eat lots of fruits and vegetables that contain antioxidants that naturally protect your skin from damage from the inside. Also, eat more omega-3 fatty acids and less omega 6's. This ratio is very important when it comes to the health and protection of your skin. If I go out in the sun I wear a hat and long sleeves. It's OK to put a little on your face if you want to avoid wrinkles, but slathering on tons of sunscreen every day is just unnecessary and expensive. Many brands have toxic chemicals in them too. If you are going to the beach, then you should probably put on sun block, but at least choose one that doesn't have toxic chemicals in them (I am a nutritionist by the way).
finally, the comment I was searching for.
huge fan of CNA Insider's Talking point. great infotainment section. Can you guys do Antibacterial shower cream's effective too? that's gonna interesting.
Such great and helpful content. I wish schools would teach us more about this kind of knowledge.
Love this new episode!
Skincare junkie here 😍
very good documentaey!!!
Very helpful video ❤️👍
An umbrella is cheaper than sunscreen
You need to find the sunscreens you love, otherwise you won't wear them!! I use La Roche Posay Shaka Fluid for my face and Garnier Ambre Solaire for the rest of my body. I'm very happy with those and so I wear them a lot. 💖
So a 50ml bottle would last for 5 applications and you need to reapply during the day so let's say the bottle would last 3 days with reapplying, a bottle of sunscreen is about 20 USD and you need repurchase it every 3 days, so you need to buy 10 bottles each months which is about 200 USD
The information she gave about how much Sunscreen need to be used it totally false you need 2mg of sunscreen for each cm² of the skin
I do not appreciate sunblock before, just after I was in a Dragonboat team that I think I needed to put a load of it. I noticed premature aging on some exposed skins. When I stopped with the DB, I still continue using it and noticed even some wrinkles going finer and dark spots are minimized.
Definitely recommend Altruist sunscreen products. It's more affordable for me to buy and use with a pretty generous amount anytime I use it (it costs around $8-$9 for Altruist SPF30 with 200ml and $7-8 for Altruist SPF50 with 100ml).
And because of the affordable price, its texture is pretty sticky and shiny, and some sensitive people might get teary with it too.
I have to bear it because its sun protection effect is so high and strong and the price is affordable, even though it has such disadvantages in return. So you can consider it!
I learned a lot from this. Thanks
LRP is sooo expensive in Malaysia 😭 But I love mine from Altruist. A European dermatologist hybrid sunscreen and it’s nourishing! ❤️
Even here in the Philippines 😥
@@abd12459 I feel youuu
Been using that also for body. By far its the most economical sized sunscreen I’ve found in the market.
I live in France and trust me, LRP is super expensive here too. Their tiny bottles cost an arm 💀
The only inaccuracy in this video is the one about Organic (Chemical) and Inorganic (Physical/mineral). Recent studies show that BOTH principally work the same by absorbing heat. The latter only reflects 5-10%. True, Organic can be more irritating but with recent filters, there are less irritations and offer higher UVA/UVB protection.
can i ask where you got this info from? just curious
@@f.a3600 search lab muffin beauty science in RUclips, you’ll get to know about this studies
@@f.a3600 Check out Lab Muffin Beauty Science youtube channel, she debunks a lot of skincare myths including sunscreen myths.
If I need to use 10ml of sunscreen everyday, I'll finish a bottle in a week.
Yeah, that’s wild. Guidelines in Canada and the US typically suggest 1/4 - 1/2 tbsp for the face and neck.
They're just trying to boost sales.
These sellers must see us as walking money machines
My parents sell sunscreen since I was a child and they don't use that much. 2 fingers is enough for the face, neck and back of hands.
12min into the show and suddenly this felt like a piece of native marketing
you can totally buy other brands of sunscreen!
very good video.. thank you for sharing.. actually nowadays the sunscreen has very light textured which is enjoyable. especially Korean sunscreen.
10ML ??? The La Roche Posay Anthelios is a 50ML bottle. That's way too much for your face and neck!! Then that means each 50ML bottle is suppose to last for 5 days application ... so 4 bottles of it a month .......???
That doesn't even take into account the fact that you have to reapply it apprix every 2 hours. So it lasts even less time
Recently I found out that certain sunscreen mixtures can also ruin/nullify the its effect. Certain ingredients don't mix (can't remember what combos), but if you search it should pop up.
So essentially if you don't do your research. Combining two different brands of sunscreen can risk nullifying the effect on you. Hope this helps.
Unless in certain circumstances where in 1 sunscreen (that has two conflicting types of sunscreen ingredients together. Like the brand SuperGoop) the chemist was able to include other ingredients to stabilize both sunscreen additives. Making the wearer able to wear this sunscreen and have it work to its full effect. (Maybe instead with these don't wear when the ingredients expire?)
I dunno, but love this video. Great work!
I love my SPF 50 physical 🙌
i meean if you live in a tropical country esp if it's literally on the equator, i'd say i wouldn't skip reapplying sunscreen every few hours, esp if you do activities around windows almost all day
Applying twice daily is the maximum for me. Otherwise so tiring....n as a result I jv younger looking skin. Spf 15 to 30 is enough for me...higher spf feels sticky n prompt to acnes. I use Eltamd n Parasol. Very nice explanation❤❤❤👍
These companies make us believe that we need so much spf everyday for only our face, they are just trying to sell their products.. but actually you just need 3 fingers of sunscreen for your face, ears and neck. This 3 finger technique is best and it's the appropriate amount one should apply everyday.
True I use the 3 digits of my finger to measure out my sunscreen and already that is hard to absorb. I cannot imagine the frustration of tryin to smooth out 10ml of sc on my face!
The will always be an issue with people using it as much as people know they should for a number of reasons 1. cost people don’t want to spend the amounts needed 2. The amount you need to apply is borderline ridiculous for everyday use under traditional guidelines which ties into cost and how it makes people look . 3 most sunscreens are uncomfortable to wear even at lower quantities unless you spend larger amounts. This combo along with no visible need from the consumers pov on cloudy days to need to wear it it’s a non starter for most.
I loooooooove all your videos, CNA 💖
Same
Thank you Azarine & Carasun
What? La roche posay lady recommended 10ml for face and neck? 😂 each of those LRP facial sunscreen is 50ml. 🤣
La roche posay sunscreen 30spf costs over 10usd for 50ml. So just to protect your face its going to cost you 2usd per use.
Unless there's cheaper alternatives I'm not surprised people are reluctant to use sunscreen
There're many affordable options of sunscreen. Some Japanese brands are inexpensive!
that brand is an expensive brand, you can just use neutragina or any other uniliver brand. some makeup like CC or BB cream have sunblock and you can always have a good mask, glasses and mask and put filters on your windows.
Try Parasol sunscreen from Indonesia
@@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel many neutrogena sunscreens were tested positive for a carcinogen, so be careful.
@@sup8668 thanks for the sharing
i’m shocked at how they recommended 10ml per use, because an average sunscreen is 50ml which means you only get 5 times use out of it?
Yeah this seems excessive. The recommendation here is 1/2 teaspoon for face and neck.
I used to always stick to Korean/Japanese sunscreens because of cosmetic elegance. However I was always worry that they weren’t providing sufficient coverage and the PA rating is outdated. I now strictly use European sunscreens for my face and body even when I’m staying indoors (I live in the Philippines which is very humid and sunny). Most European sunscreens are thick, gloopy, and shiny but they have high standards in terms of protection and are most often water resistant. For my face I use Riemann’s P20 for kids, for my body I use Altruist SPF 50 (they both have a PPD of more than 50)
ese euro sunscreen were not formulate for your darker complexion in mind. so whether you get 30, 50 , which you think the highest the "better", its just a moisturizer. . you've got dark nipples = person of color. and you've got enough melanin to protect yourself from long terms Sun damage.
Very interesting content...esp about the antioxidant pills. Never knew such a thing existed (though I'm sure you could get them more in expensively without the "sunscreen" label attached). I love that you interview experts to break points down for us laymen lol
You totally can! The active ingredient in “sunscreen pills” is polypodium leucotomos and it can be bought as a generic supplement much cheaper than some of the influencer type brands
go as high as you can, put it on every 2ish hours, especially outdoors and wear sun protectact clothes. I'm sensitive, so I use minial sunblock on face but chemical mix for the rest of the body. Min strength is 50 (not 30) cause its hard to remember to put a lot or put it often. There's much more affordable brands, than Le Roche (a. premium brand) and I stick to cream or gel, no sprays. eat well, and have a decient vitamin serum
i was shocked when they said 5h!! lol that's not correct
Ideally spf 50. But for indoor activities some experts say spf 15 to 30 is enough. Anyway I would like to apply spf 50...but is too sticky n breaking me out. So spf 15 to 30 is still ok for me. Layering 2x I feel safer. But for outdoor activities spf 50 would be safer
I'd love to see a test where they apply 10ml of sunblock/sunscreen onto the face and neck, just to show how oily, sticky and even "white" (from the cast) a person would look and feel by the end. Not to mention the breakout afterwards.
Im happy im educated on suncreen at a youner age compared to other people who knew this later in their old age or those of which still dont know anything about it.
Please educate your children, parents and the public about it when u can.
Love sunscreen, it not only protects my skin but makes it look dewy and young
pls sunscreen is so important! Its not just about aging gracefully its literally SKIN CANCER. Find a sunscreen with at least spf30 broad spectrum pa++++ and reapply during the day. You have to find a good sunscreen to actually want to use it.
I only apply sunscreen on my face. Should I also include my neck and behind ears and also arms even if I'm just staying indoors?
@@marieantoine staying indoors you actually dont really have to. If youre going out, i personally would use 3 fingers worth or sunscreen for my whole face and ears, and slightly more for my neck. The more you apply the first time and ensure you cover everywhere will decrease the number of times you have yo reapply really
@@user-vj9iw6cv7m okay thanks!
Another thing: how to reapply correctly? Because my face gets oily after some time. Can I wipe off the oil first and then reapply?
And what if I'm wearing makeup? Do I just reapply it on top of the makeup?
@@marieantoine i actually dont wear makeup, but when my face gets oily, yes i wipe it away before reapplying sunscreen. For makeup ive heard many people using powder spf, they will just powder it on top of their makeup and it doesnt disturb their makeup. Im not sure if its as effective but some youtubers do recommend it. You can watch cassandra bankson, james welsh or dr dray for more skin content
@@user-vj9iw6cv7m okay got it. I also watch james welsh and dr dray for skincare product reviews.
By the way one last question. What if I work during the night or night shift and I sleep during the day, do I still apply sunscreen at night when I work? Or do I apply sunscreen during the day but I'm sleeping?
I couldn't find a clear answer to this question.
TIP: Never ask a SUN screen MAKER how often you should use Sun screen.. lol, of cos they will say "ALL the time", they MAKE them..
its like asking a Fish Ball seller, if its okay to eat fish ball everyday? What do you think he will say?
yeah. I was thinking the same. I wonder why we live in the solar system but we should(?) be afraid of it🤔. Isn’t this environment the best for living creatures to live? If it’s not, how can animals in the wild cope with the sun? They didn’t even know the existence of somewhat called sun protection!
(if you say they have fur or feather to cover their skin, we have clothes, then)
p/s: I’m not saying that sun ray is harmless or harmful nor people should or shouldn’t use sun protection. It’s just my very own perspective about this topic.
some claims minor sun exposure is good for Vit D. Too much sunscreen ( especially those chemicals) may do more harm than good. Opt for mineral sunblock
I save money by wearing UPF clothing and just applying sunscreen to my face and neck. I even have UPF gloves!
Upf gloves are essential when I’m driving. There’s a huge difference between my left and right hand from the sun exposure.
Are u 2 from same company
@@osirusj275 They do not need to be from same wherever.
I own UPF clothing too, and so do many people out there. In fact, many athletic/sports wear have been developing UPF clothing over 12 years ago, as they know how important sun protection & heat regulation are for sportsmen (even leisure ones) who spend many hours outdoors regularly and who dislike the sticky/greasy feel of sunscreen on sweaty skin, and that the sun can affect one's sporting/exercise performance too.
Both the sales of sunscreens and the rate of melanoma grew considerably in recent years and there's a correlation between vitamin d deficiency and skin cancer. Let's talk about that! Let's talk osteoporosis! Sunscreen is important but it has to be used appropriately as vitamin D levels are FAR more important 4 your health than wrinkle management.
ps: in general, when indoors, you are mostly exposed to UVA (also the most damaging to your skin). Using a UVA shield (PA++++ but very low SPF) could be the most reasonable way forward.
I drink milk so I guess can stay away from the sun.
@@ebencipe vitamin D is created with calcium and sun rate also melatonin. You can’t creat sun with any food. Humans have survived without sunscreen for thousands of years and were fine. I use sunscreen in hot summer days only unless you are redhead or blonde then it’s a special case and need more care. Companies always greedy and ask you to spend more, anyone wearing sunscreen indoors or in winter cloudy day is insane mostly if they are not ginger or blondes. Everyone will age no sunscreen will save anyone maybe just get rid of fewer wrinkles but still the body age from inside our cells.
what if you take vitamin d supplements? then theres no problem, right?
All the studies show there is no vitamin D deficit in sunscreen users. The science also tells us a light or even mild vitamin D deficit has no symptoms and it s not an issue.
10ml is wayyyy too much. If LRP really believes that, why are they selling their sunscreens in 50ml bottles? Is it supposed to be travel size to the beach?
They try to sell their product.
The correct calculation is around 1.5ml on face then double portion on neck + down to your chest + ears. If you aren't wearing V-neck and exposing your chest you don't need that much. In short 2-3ml per application and re-apply every 4 hours if you stay outdoor for long hours.
I'm wearing sunscreen or sunblock at home, SPF 50, most of times I don't need to re-apply.
@serien I thought the same thing. Obviously these companies will ask us to use such huge amounts. They have to sell their sunscreen
Seriously?? The Roche-Posay lady telling us to use 10 ML every time we apply sunscreen, yet their bottles are often only 50 ML with an exorbitant price tag! The price of their 50 ML bottle is $25, that's crazy. Say you'd only apply once every day (the bare minimum), that would be a hefty $1825 a year for minimum protection according to this sales lady. I hate it.
This is good. I can watch an hour long about sunscreen.
Whatever it is, I've taken it upon myself to wear sunscreen rain or shine 365 days AND reapply because I want to see how much premature ageing it can prevent. If it actually does what it claims to be doing and when I see positive effects at an age where signs of ageing are usual like 50s per say then I'll be making sure my offsprings make wearing sunscreen a norm just like it's a norm to brush teeth. I mean, if I get to preserve youthful looking skin why the heck not right ?
A company called The Ordinary makes a 30SPF that's $8.50 for a 50 ml that is excellent for the face. It's a mineral sunscreen, so it's safe for the oceans, and I like that it's affordable and effective.
There’s no way I’m applying 30 pumps of sunscreen on my face 😨😨😨
Even as a dark skin girl I apply three layers. Two chemical sunscreen and the last one is a mineral sunscreen that makes me purple :( but I than apply brown powder with spf (low spf , but still) and off I go 😃
Avobenzone and non encapsulated Zn oxide don’t mix.
Why are you using 3 forms of sunscreen???? Only one is needed
Good to have sunscreen on skin and its good also to use natural and good ingredients...sometimes its not really bec of the sun make our skin damaged, its bec of the products people use.
Most of the Doctors recommend expensive brand, foreign brand, but actually theres a lot of local brand in Singapore.
I’m surprised it wasn’t Steven under the sun.
1. Avoid sun exposure if you can.
2. If not, get a good hat and umbrella.
3. Whenever possible, I plan errands and hangouts before 10AM or after 4PM.
I'm lazy in using any cream on my face so I really have to be intentional when I decide to go out.
Thanks to this report, I at least know how much is needed when I remember to apply sunscreen 💛
The best sunscreen is the one you consistently apply. The variations don't really mean much.
35 looking 25 here. I've used factor 50 religiously, everyday (and yup, even when indoors) since I was 21. People don't realise that 90% of skin aging is caused by sunlight damage. We are a culture obsessed with youth, and yet most spend a lot of money on various skin products but neglect the most obvious solution: sunscreen. Plus the health benefits are numerous: protecting immune system; avoiding skin cancer + feeling better about your appearance as you age. Slaver up and protect your protective barrier: YOUR SKIN! :)
You can never be 35 and look 25 someone just told you nice stuff because like you said we are obsessed with youth which is dumb. I’m sure you look great but no need to make age comparison because i can tell someone age no matter how young they look or have no skin damage
well said. that sounds like an ad tbh lol
please re-apply sunscreen, even if you are indoor. sweats or rubbing off of skin causes sunscreen to wear off TT
Just to clarify, 10ml for the face and neck isn't correct. The FDA SPF testing regulates at 2 mg per square centimeter. So, for your face, it should be around 1/4 teaspoon (for the face) and 1/2 teaspoon for the neck. So, in total it will be 3/4 teaspoon for the face and neck. So, (by my calculations of 5ml/tsp.) it will be 3.75 mL. So in a la roche posay sunscreen (50ml), by my calculations you'll have around 13-14 uses and not the 5 uses as the product manager said.
I use cerave AM which contains spf 30.
I wished CNA team had done better research and had a much more skeptical attitude about our current knowledge. The prevalence of skin cancer in our modern society cannot be simply explained by sun exposure alone. If this was the case, many of our ancestors who were farmers or those living in very hot regions would be dying of skin cancer. Yet skin cancer is a modern disease, the cancer rate increase only in the last 50-100 years or so. If sun such a killer, we would have seen the same rates throughout history especially in coolies, farmers and those who work in hot sun all the time.
Secondly, vitamin D production during exposure to sunlight is the natural sunscreen produced by the body to counteract the oxidative effect. Vitamin D itself also have downstream anti-oxidative affect like improving immunological functions. What is vitamin D produced from? Cholesterol. With our misguided message of getting everyone to take statin drug and to lower cholesterol, where do we have enough cholesterol to produce vitamin D? Why wouldn't we think that it due to our body lack of natural defense that lead to more skin cancer? In fact, using sunblock blocks production of Vitamin D, I am very sure the people who recommended sunblock daily have to take vitamin D supplement, which is of lower quality in general unless clinic strength.
Thirdly, do we wonder why skin cancer is more prevalent only from the last 50-100 years? Yes, the introduction of dietary guidelines, especially the so-call heart ultra processed super refined "healthy" vegetable seeds oil like canola, soy, rice, sunflower, etc. We did not eat these industrial oils, previously only used to oil machineries, 100 years ago. These vegetable oil intake together with introduction of ultra process packaged foods, with high refined carbs and refine sugary foods which our dietary guideline recommended, makes people metabolically sick. There are strong correlation between the increase of vegetable seeds oil with the increase of cancer risks. Indeed, not just skin cancer, most modern cancer increased over the last 100 years together with vegetable seeds oil, refined carbs and refined sugar intake.
Most studies done on skin cancer are either in a lab exposure very high doses on cancer-ready rats or foreskins. Most studies done on humans does not account for their cholesterol, vitamin D levels and metabolic health nor their inflammation markers. We know that risk of cancer increases with inflammation and metabolic health. That is why diabetes and smoking increases risks of cancer.
Instead of making viewers more informed, CNA ended up being the spokesperson for beauty industry selling sunscreens. Furthermore, they did not research on the potential damages to the skin from sunscreen ingredients and also the the environment especially into the sea.
Of course, there are people who gets skin cancer due to strong exposure and there are people who purposely like to suntan and then get themselves skin cancer with over exposure to the sunlight. This is the reason we get sunburn, its the way of the body telling you to get out of the sunlight before more damage can be done.
So what your diet looks like... Wont the sunscreens be useful during 12 to 4pm and u can do without sunscreen before those hours
@@osirusj275 the diet is important but whatever diet one choose, it is more important that it keeps a person metabolically healthy and not chronically inflamed or insulin resistant. And just looking at LDL is not it. There are thousand of N+1 reports of people who improved their metabolic health and reported that they don't need to use sunscreen anymore as they don't get sunburnt easily anymore. Of course, who knows if they will get skin cancer as a result, despite reversing diabetes, dementia, obesity and reducing CVD risk right?
There are use case fo sunscreen but I don't see strong evidence for a daily use for everyone, especially not to protect from skin cancer. People who are currently unhealthy and have not been advices correctly to make themselves healthier and just takes drugs as directed by their doctors could probably need sunscreen. But who knows those substance could have hormone disrupters or cause other cancers. Who will pay money for such long term studies? The beauty and pharma company certainly will not.
Finally! Someone applies logic and speaks truth. Yours is the comment I hoped to find. 🌞
@@elac1256 I feel the same way! I started using sunscreen on a daily basis and reapplying, but then started thinking... Is all this really necessary? Were people getting skin cancer from the sun Centuries ago? I started looking to see if other have had similar logic in thinking, and here I find some so far.
I am soooooo happy i found at least one person here who looked at all the factors involved, historical facts and all. In India too I find the same.
Im glad you took the time to comment in such a clear and detailed manner. I wish more people read that and not just go by the video.
If any one is looking for a very good, light weight and inexpensive sunscreen, use Skin Aqua Super Moisture Gel SPF 50+. i use this, its very good, most important its cheap and it is in a big bottle, that's why you can apply it over and over without going bankrupt due to buying sunscreen(coming from a person who use to buy a lot of sunscreen and most of them were expensive but then i use this one and not changing it very soon). Also if you buy it then buy 110 ml or 150ml. You will thank me later.
i live in india. do you happen to have any idea from which site i can get it from? (other than amazon cause i doubt the authenticity)
@@yashasohtun1523 i don't live in india but you can buy it from amazon or any online page from india that have specialty in Japanese skin care products. i buy it from online page here.
that's one of my favorite bands. cheap & comfortable.
@@halosunnah5446 indeed
Im using bananaboat. I think its the most economical choice. Japanese sunscreen is very cosmetically elegant but too small.
I wear sunscreen everyday of the year and I found in that is whitening and comfortable on skin it’s very good for keeping skin cool clear and white
10ml, nah. a teaspoon for the face will do, and reapply every 3 hours or so.
i feel like the moment i put sunscreen ill get pimples. even when i do double cleansing all the time. esp with wearing mask.
Try mineral sunscreen.
Thank you for this experiment