Do You Need to Wear Sunscreen Indoors? An Analysis | Lab Muffin Beauty Science
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Do you really need to wear sunscreen when you're inside all day? It depends - here's what you need to consider. Yes, one Michelle was harmed in the making of this video.
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In this video:
* Why wear sunscreen?
* How much UV is indoors?
* Direct and diffuse UV, and estimating how much you get
* What about glass?
* UV and season, location, time of day
* Individual UV susceptibility
Blog post with more info and references here: labmuffin.com/should-you-wear...
The free sample chapter of The Lab Muffin Guide to Basic Skincare has info on sunscreens: labmuffin.com/skin
Key references:
Sky view factor model: Utrillas MP et al., Photochem Photobiol 2010, 86, 449-456. doi.org/10.1111/j.1751-1097.2...
Glass: Almutawa F et al., Photodermatol Photoimmunol Photomed 2013, 29, 65-72. doi.org/10.1111/phpp.12022
Australian sun exposure guidelines: wiki.cancer.org.au/policy/Pos...
Ethnic skin and aging: Vashi NA et al., J Clin Aesthet Dermatol 2016, 9, 31-38. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Sunscreen and melanoma in dark skin: theconversation.com/sunscreen...
Blog post with more info and references here: labmuffin.com/should-you-wear...
Cancer Council Australia's skin cancer committee chair and Australasian College of Dermatologists president say you probably don't need sunscreen indoors: www.abc.net.au/life/do-you-ne...
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This came out after I finished filming: Cancer Council Australia's skin cancer committee chair and Australasian College of Dermatologists president say you probably don't need sunscreen indoors: www.abc.net.au/life/do-you-need-sunscreen-even-when-inside/12201634
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So, depending on how new your windows are in your house, you can probably be completely fine. Most, if not all windows being produced currently have UVB/UVA protection in order to protect the integrity of furniture and fabrics. Also certain substances can contain chemicals that when exposed to UV can be broken down to be toxic.
"If you sit next to the window, yes, you get some light, but you do need some light for vitamin D for bone strength and a strong immune system."
I thought you only get vitamin D from UVB rays?
But How about the lamps? My country is cloudy most of the time so we turn on lamps in doors more often. Lamps have uv lights in them too
I understand why I look like an 18 year old even if I'm almost 30. My long years locked in my room playing games and watching anime are finally giving fruits
😂😂😂😂😂 love that
Also: genetics. I did barely anything to my skin and I looked 12 until a couple of years ago (I'm 42 now). I am VERY white and in my days sunscreen was not as ubiquitous and I used to tan a LOT. I started wearing sunscreen to the pool or the beach when I was around 30
@@solevazquezmaria I use sunscreen everyday since I'm 18. Guess that helps a lot. But sure genetics are very important
@@solevazquezmaria I can only hope I got my mom's genes, she loves to tan and thinks skincare is bs, but she has barely any wrinkles and finelines at the age of 46. Also, she never uses sunscreen, not even at the beach, only tanning oils :)))
Just be sure to take your Vitamin D tablets, as my game addicted friend found out he was very low.
Conclusion: remain in the dark in a windowless basement at all times.
Haha
Would like to.
😂 We all probably kinda did during the lockdown lol
Lol! I have curtains and stuff that blocks the sun out (sunblock curtains) 😂🤣
La Lo that’s what I have and my room is in the basement 😅
I think the stress of wearing a sunscreen is going to damage my skin more than the sun itself at this point.
Right! Lmfao
exactly, I use it when the sun is really strong or when I think I need to avoid getting sun spots. No use wearing it indoors seriously lolllll. EXCEPT if you live in a desert ... then I would consider it lol
Too much of anything is never good of course.
seriously though. it's so hard - at least for me personally - to properly protect my skin from the sun while still remaining chill and non-obsessive about it
felt this to my bones
I really appreciate this. I’ve been hearing dermatologists online say you must reapply every two hours even if you are indoors. There is no way a normal working person spending most of the day in an office can or will reapply sunscreen at six a.m., eight a.m., ten a.m., noon, two p.m., four p.m, six p.m., and eight p.m. (assuming summer). At the beach, sure! But inside? Thank you for adding reason to the conversation.
if you use 50+ spf you get more long lasting protection for more time. i only apply it every 4 hours when the sun hits hard in the morning around 10 am, then i reapply it at 2 pm usually cuz i’m not strict but it’s really sunny and if the sun still shining and i have to drive somewhere, probably i retouch it a little at 5 pm. but i live in mexico with a high heat weather and strong uv index, so it depends your region, uv index, for how long you stay indoors or outdoors, if you sweat and rub it off constantly, etc but up to you to choose the spf level protection
that too with 3 finger method lol
It would get expensive to apply it all day long every 2 hours, and who has time for that? I apply once a day in the morning and I don't reapply unless I'm outside. Soon dermatologists will start telling us to wear sunscreen to bed at night.
It's absolutely ridiculous. By the time you apply the 3rd layer it's gonna start flaking and clumping on your skin. What i do is wash everything off and reapply in the afternoon if I need it
@@darshita1270omg this is the dumbest shit ever. 3 fingers' length worth of sunscreen?! Are they insANe💀💀
My house has windows everywhere and my family loves the sunshine so the blinds are always open. I guess it’s sunscreen for me until the day I can find a cave to move into and live my life as a vampire. Loved the video. Funny and informative.
Install a uv filter film
Greetings, future neighbor! I spent so much time & money when choosing curtains for my house but am I ever “allowed” to close them? 🙄Of course not. 🖤🦇
Samee !!! 😑
You could consider UV film. In the states, a good affordable one is Gila Platinum
Thanks everyone for the likes and advice. I guess I’m not the only sun phobic person out there. Lol.
FINALLY, a reasonable analysis for sunscreen usage. It's nice to see something to combat all the hysterical sunscreen advice we find online...
YES
Oh yes thank god!! Using sunscreen indoors and RE-APPLYING EVERY TWO HOURS, comer on!!! Insane
@@JemAndTheHologramssreapplying sunscreen indoors it's a crime - and I use tretinoin
@@CheshireCat01 indeed!
This industry need to sell more and take our money that we buy "too extra" sunscreen.
Imagine, you'll get old faster for overly stressing about applying sunscreen 😁
I would be like 80 years old
Exactly
me
@mui 😁
Or stressing because of mental illness and other people 😵..
Finally, a scientific and reliable analysis! Everyone on YT acting like the average person spends their days under the sun in the Sahara counting the grains of sand. Most of us are lucky if we actually get out in the sun for an hour during the week. This sunscreen panic is getting out of control.
Finally an answer to this mystery.
Now I don't feel guilty for not applying sunscreen indoors. I'll let my skin breathe since I'm just at home all day with minimum sunlight.
My husband actually installed lights in the backyard so I could garden at evening time. I’ve had skin cancer twice and I do everything I can think of to protect my pale skin. It’s so maddening. Gardening is my passion.
I cant be bothered to wear sunscreen indoors because I like taking naps and hate the feeling of sleeping with it 😴😴😴
try chemical sunscreens! They got absorbed in the skin and you don't feel them at all on your skin. Especially korean or japanese ones
Same girl i nap during the day plus in winter by the time I wake up sun is basically gone 😂
@@bluemrpony chemical sunscreens are known to disrupt hormones. Fuck that.
Omg same
I know ! You can feel it on the skin I can’t wait to wash it off
Everyone over on r/scaredofaging oops I meant r/skincareaddiction is probably gonna lose their shit when they see this and I absolutely love it ❤️
Omg the SHADE 😂
There’s a scared of aging reddit? 😩
@@Je.Suis.Harlene that's depressing...
Well, post this video there 😬
honestly don’t go to deep into the scared of aging forum - it made my insecurities way worse :( we can find ways to control aging, but it can’t be stopped all together-sometimes this forum makes even the tiniest thing (i.e. smile lines) seem like the worst thing ♥️
I love Dr Dray massively, but she kinda lost me when she says she uses sunscreen indoors everyday AND reapplying 2-3 times a day. That's..crazy. First, that's a lot of money and second, that would clog the hell out of my pores.
Some of the crazy skin care junkies spend $20 on 4-5 different serums and $60 on their moisturizer etc. and then only apply their sunscreen once daily. if you use some of the drugstore products Dr Dray recommends and have just a simple routine, I find it isn’t that costly (relatively speaking, I know different people have different definitions of what that means). I wear sunscreen every day and usually reapply it twice daily. I don’t get much acne in general.
I’m not saying that she’s the holy grail of all skincare and everything she says is how you must do it, but she makes some good points and I think that once you get used to a routine that works for you it isn’t as crazy as it sounds.
I also sit very close to a window when I’m inside and have a job that sends me outside into the world often. I’m also someone who enjoys outside walks and has a family with a massive history of skin cancer.
And she never open her windows and got blinds all over her house. I think it's more about fear of getting old
@@donotcumforme6021 Could be. Who knows? Could also be that, like me, she has a family with an extensive history of skin cancer. My grandmother died of melanoma, she fought it off a few times until it spread to her liver then she died. It was painful and horrible to watch. All of my aunts and uncles on that side of the family have had some form of skin cancer at least once in their lives, most of my cousins have too. I'm paranoid about my sunscreen but couldn't give a flying crud about wrinkles. You can't know someone's heart.
@@erinodonnell386 everyone should religiously put sunscreen daily . PERIODT
She talks blue light from the mobile screen or TV or other light emitting sources that are responsible for fine lines or wrinkles so that's why she's using sunscreen while sitting in a closed window room .
Well, it all boils down to personal practice. Also take whatever advice with a grain of salt. You don't have to follow advice to a tee
0:36 - MA'AM THAT'S ILLEGAL.
0:37 - MA'AM THAT'S EVEN MORE ILLEGAL
"Apply liberally to skin and reapply regularly." I'm just following instructions! 😬
My sibling literally did this to me while I was sleeping and filmed it.
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience 🤣🔥
Do I have to reapply sunscreen after 80min if I did not sweat or swam?
My wallet cried for the amount of sunscreen used haha!!
the editing in this video is ASTRONOMICAL....I love it
I hired my very talented friend to help with editing 😊
You mean, atomical😉
I mean.... Truly!
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience give that friend a raise! they're a keeper.
i disagree
after watching dr dray video about sunscreen, this video gives me a peace of mind. i like how lab muffin approach considers a lot of variables when it comes to sunscreen application in daily life, it’s more sensible and less veering on extreme side.
You're so right! I love Dr. Dray but her pretty extreme stance on sunscreen is a little bit off - putting. I don't have the money as a student to reapply 3 times a day even when I'm indoors... that's ridiculous. Also, even if we only apply it when we go outside, we're better off than the people who never apply sunscreen, which, if we're being honest, is the majority of the population.
@@jennybe4766 girl im a student too so i honestly felt your comment, sometimes i used body sunscreen on my face because im too broke to afford another asian sunscreen lol. it does works though it can feel greasy
Honestly same!! Reapplying sunscreen throughout the day is such a tedious task to me. It’s so impractical in many situations as well. Sunscreen is uncomfortable as it is, and having to reapply layer after layer just feels gross and uncomfortable on the face. Tbh the average person doesn’t even think about sunscreen lol so the fact that we’re even applying it daily is better than nothing. We just gotta accept that ageing is a part of life and wrinkles are not the worst thing to ever happen to a human. I love dr dray and her advice is amazing but I could never follow her sunscreen advice
Respectfully, Dr Dray exhibits the signs of an obsessive person who rigidly controls many aspects of her life, and sunscreen application is one of them. There’s no need to subscribe to her extremes.
@@mlancholia3920 OMG CAN RELATE VERYVERY
As a pasty white Canadian, the first winter I spent in Aus I didn’t think I needed sunscreen. But I got so badly burned and 10 years later I still have scarring from it! So be careful if you’re changing climates or countries, the sun may be different than what you’re use to 😅
This is a brilliant video. There is an anxiety-inducing mantra propagated by the beauty & cosmetic industry regarding the application of sunscreen. While everyone else is just repeating this mantra and spreading unnecessary anxiety, you have, with science, alleviated a significant portion of that anxiety. Thank you.
Same!
Thank you for the in depth explanation. As someone with anxiety, the stress of people acting like we all need to live in a bathtub full of sunscreen has already aged me more than my very limited sun exposure ever could.
I am sooo glad I've found my people💀💀😭😭its legit soo stressful omg. Damned if u do and damned if u don't
This is why I love this channel- common sense science- based info and advice!
I use SPF regularly, but will oftentimes forgo it if I'll only be getting short bursts of incidental exposure and the UV index is 2 or below. I'm very light skinned and know that I need to take precautions, but trying to block out every single ray of UVA/UVB to the point of wearing SPF indoors is too exhausting to even think about and and seems a little overzealous and unnecessary to me. Thank you for this!
Thank you! It's really interesting how the sunscreen advice varies between countries - the "official" stance of the American Academy of Dermatology is much more on the side of "wear sunscreen all the time" than in Australia and the UK, and hasn't been updated for a long time. I'm not sure if it's overcautiousness, lack of collaboration between different disciplines in medicine (the Australian guidelines were developed as a collaboration between the Australian and New Zealand Bone and Mineral Society, the Australasian College of Dermatologists, Cancer Council Australia, Endocrine Society of Australia and Osteoporosis Australia), not being up to date with evidence, or a reflection of corporate interests...
Lab Muffin Beauty Science My country (America) makes me want to cry sometimes. A lot of times. I just deleted a whole rant but yeah what you said.
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience The other option I can think of is that Americans really are not as good at wearing sunscreen. Better to suggest wearing sunscreen all the time and people wear it some of the time, then suggest wearing it sometimes and it barely being worn at all. It's the same trait of people never putting on enough that you've mentioned before! I'm trying to get into the habit of wearing sunscreen everyday, at least on my face and hands, because I know I'm rubbish at remembering and at reapplying! If I wasn't trying this hard, I'd probably only wear sunscreen a few times a year.
@@debayeuxchats5607 Possibly! Although I'm not fond of misinforming people in an attempt to get them to do the right thing, I don't think it ever ends well - see e.g. the "masks don't work" narrative to save masks for healthcare workers...
@@TracyD2 This is my country too, and I know the FDA doesn't give a whit about American health. Go to eBay. Search for La Roche Posay Invisible Fluid. And give the finger to the FDA.
Thank you so much for this video. 🤗 Hearing Dr. Dray’s recommendations of applying sunscreen 3 times per day has given me anxiety. It has almost made me fear being outdoors at all during the day. I’m going to keep applying sunscreen daily if I’m outdoors, but I’m not going to obsess over it anymore. If I still get skin cancer and I prematurely age, then so be it. At least I lived my life.
I only apply sunscreen after i take a morning bath and around lunch if the weather is sunny, I'm stuck at home and lets be honest, sunscreen is more expensive than a cleanser and you need a hefty amount of it so it's not gonna last 3 months for 30ml.
Just remember excess stress/anxiety will age your skin and wreck body health. Just do a balanced cost/benefits analysis and don't stress too much about it.
Mds, “queria” eu n ligar para ter câncer de pele
I’ve been feeling so bad about not wearing my sunscreen more regularly and this actually made me feel better but I’m going to start applying more regularly anyway 😂
As a person that has just spent a small fortune in the past few days on sunscreen, I heard my wallet scream in pain while you were making it rain SPF.
@Wilfred Willy even though thats true it's sad when people just go along with whatever societal pressures are placed on them. I dont blame them for it because it's true , appearance does put people ahead and It's your choice to meet those societal standards after all.
but you also need to remember its mentally taxing and time consuming to make choices based on appearance all the time. Every decision you make has a cost and we all live for a limited time .
Truth is, You will age wither and die like the rest , It doesn't matter how pretty you are you'll still end up with a rotted corpse.
Besides , those of us in the industry know the reality and we prey on your insecurities. Marketing teams know women have spending power and corporations want your money. what better way to collect it than by preying on your belief that beauty is worth the price ? Lol
And Cosmetic formulators will giggle at people paying a fortune for any cosmetic product. If you have the money to burn on luxury skincare products during a global pandemic then by all means do so but never forget the actual cost of that product is far lower than what you're paying for lmao . Youre only paying for the image. You're paying for the feeling that it will help you. You're paying for your insecurities and that is exactly what the industry wants you to do. Even if a product does nothing well at least you paid for the placebo effect, right ?
But yes protect yourself . use sunscreen when needed bc prevention is the best medicine( Dont underestimate skin cancer!) And know that you dont have to pay a fortune for an effective product.
@Wilfred Willy Thanks but I prefer to use it just to protect my skin from cancer and premature ageing and that not for being a high quality "product" from the "sexual market".
@Pickled Ginger in your sunscreen haul have you found any mineral-only sunscreens that are easy to spread on the skin? I want to protect my under eye area, but the chemical sunscreens I use all over my face can be irritating around there
Must be a beautiful life to just sit and wait to gloat at friends who have a wee bit more wrinkles than I do because I spent a fortune and so much time and nerve on applying all kinds of stuff on my face.
Lily Homma - hi honey - not yet! But Dr Dray (on RUclips) is a fantastic sunscreen reference - both kinds, and I just bought some Australian Gold 'Kids' SPF50. I don't know if it's just physical or a combination- just found it at TJ MAXX for a nice price so I grabbed it. Good luck!
As the lockdown started where I live, I decided not to wear sunscreen as I'm going to be indoors all the time. I don't have a garden, but huge windows all around.. 2 months into no spf at home, I notice my face is getting noticeably darker than the rest of my body, and my freckles making a big comeback (as they do in summertime). I like them, but I also understand why they are back.. So, after these 2 months I started wearing sunscreen indoors. My skintone is even again. I have freckles here and there, and my skin looks better overall now than it did 2 months ago.
same and I live in Ireland, it’s not even sunny a lot here
This should get more likes than this video 👍
I would've been skeptical if I hadn't had an incident where I got sunburned after sitting in the shade for an hour and a half at winter. Being white is hard
@Fixit 🇫🇮 but the UVA rays reach your skin even on a cloudy rainy winter day. They're the ones that age your skin
Jeez! I wear spf always inside but had no idea your freckles would darken inside. Shows you that sun aint joking with us! Spf indoors kids 😂😂
I'll put it on regardless of whether I'm going to be indoors or outside. It's just habit. But I'm pretty slack when it comes to reapplication during the day 😕
Same
I mean realistically you don't have to keep reapplying during the day. It really depends on the level of UV, whether if its winter or summer...
personally I apply it in the morning and then try to not think about it anymore for the rest of the day. care is good, obession is bad
I mean i do wear it everyday cause i’m kinda used to it, but most deff i won’t reapply it if spending the day indoor.
i’m not Dr Dray!
#Aintnobodygottime #aintnobodygotmoney
I just make sure to reapply to my hyperpigmentation, don't need those bitches getting any darker lmao
Yeah Dr Dray recently said reapply even if indoors.......three times. Nope.
For me it's #aintnobodygotmoney :))
@@hanamiya8008 same here lol
Don't shade Dr. Dray
Working in optometry, all of our exam rooms have either 0 windows or blackout curtains so we can have controlled lighting conditions and to protect the eyes of dilated people.
I'm an ultrasound technologist - same situation! I love not having to worry about it during the day!!
Very convenient!
Seriously THANK YOU for this.
Dr Dray constantly implies on the importance of applying sunscreen while indoors THREE TIMES a day. She's way too obsessive, it's unhealthy. It made me feel guilty, although I never sit near the window and am mostly behind the blinds.
@@BeeTee292 some directions say to reapply every 15 minutes...
she's just a woman fearing death and wrinkles, just looks like a ghost/doll lmao
@@brooklynsbaby4367 no they don’t
@@coryaw95 yeah they do
@@brooklynsbaby4367 Pretty sure it's "Apply 15 minutes before sun exposure."
hah! I knew it had to be reasonable to not wear sunscreen in the winter in seattle where 28/30 days it's raining and the UV index is literally 1
Marjorie Carlson I thought it was the same for the north of England and it’s cloudy as hell, 12 degrees C, and the uv index is 7 so I’m suing the sun
Only 28?
Where is that?
@@dscjmc6513 Washington
This was great, Michelle! As a person who is between Fitzpatrick phototype 4 and 5, I am often told that I don't need sunscreen. But I do wear it because not only can I suffer from hyperpigmentation (thank you for bringing that up). Another problem especially for people of color in the States is that ironically because we are told that we don't need sunscreen by so many outlets, we don't wear it. Now there are stats coming out saying that, even though it is less common for us to get skin cancer, when we do get melanoma, etc it's usually at a very advanced stage. I wear sunscreen also because I think of its application more like a behavior I'd rather not break, if that makes sense! I already have trouble remembering things. This is just such an easy thing to help me not age as fast, so...why not? haha. Thanks again for this informative video.
I recently learned that the evidence doesn't support sun exposure being linked to melanoma development in dark skinned people - the difference in outcomes is more due to lack of access and awareness (including lack of education of dermatologists about what skin cancers look like in dark skin). The article from The Conversation that I linked in the description sums up some of the issues specific to dark skin: theconversation.com/amp/sunscreen-wouldnt-have-saved-bob-marley-from-melanoma-and-it-wont-help-other-dark-skinned-people-116979
I am Fitzpatrick scale 4-5. We absolutely NEED sunscreen all the time. Our skin is so much prone to hyperpigmentation and dullness as we age, no matter what people say. Melanocytes are so easily triggered and hyperpigmentation is hard to get rid of.
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience This is very interesting. I think that this is true and I was going to mention that, in the US, it definitely is at least a combination of lack of access to institutional (medical, in this case) resources. This article most certainly convinced me of that. To me, it seems like we need a lot more evidence all around. I think as you mentioned in your video, because so many of these studies are being done on people significantly lighter than me, it's hard to graft those results onto us (Black people) with regard to melanoma. This makes me want to do more research. And yell at people who are running studies lol! I am not sure if you are aware (probably) but there is huge problem with test subjects skewing white and male in the States. So unfortunate that this leads to a lack of data here. I feel like I have a more informed opinion on this due to the information you have shared! I will continue to wear sunscreen but for aging benefits (which I found interesting in the article) v incidence of melanoma (which is not supported). Thank you for sharing this article!
Mary Thomas it’s important to distinguish the cosmetic from the medical concerns. If a person doesn’t care much about hyperpigmentation then they shouldn’t be falsely led into believing they have to wear sunscreen, especially when wearing sunscreen is challenging (if they’re sensitive to chemical sunscreens).
Mary Thomas yes...Me too! So sunscreen everyday! Sun spots are so annoying!
And this calms me on another front: all the years I ran and walked outside for exercise. I have been wringing my hands over those years, no sunscreen on me. But I did it super early in morning, starting in the dark if possible, or super late in the day. So I guess I can stop lamenting.
I lived in Italy for a while and sat on the balcony for an hour daily without sunscreen for like 4 months straight. Been battling myself over that one for a while, so I'm overcompensating now, lol.
I don’t care what sunscreen enthusiasts say,
As a black woman who lives in a winter wasteland I’ll take skin ageing over the numerous problems my lab- confirmed extreme vitamin D deficiency has already caused me. This summer I’m avoiding any photosensitisers like AHAs, BHAs or retinol and I’m flourishing again.
if you live in a colder climate and have more melanin to protect yourself, i’d say go for it if you don’t care about aging. sadly, as a paper white person in a hot climate i have to load up on sunscreen lol. also vitamin supplements can also help
Please add Vitamins K2 to the vitamin D so that it will help in better absorption
That's why everyone needs to supplement vitamin D. You can't get an adequate amount from the sun alone.
Thank you so much. This is the first time I knew UVA doesn’t stay constant through the day. And even though I respect Dr Dray’s advice, she made me super anxious about the sun. This video really helps me feel better.
i feel the same way !!!
Tbh I don't trust Dr. Dray that much. I think she's a bit too obsessive and her skin shows it. Something about her complexion and mimic "expression" (Botox?) seems lifeless. If that's the price to pay for slowed down aging, I'll take aging instead.
So you trusts influencers more than dermatologists? Well influencers know how to talk to make you feel good so I understand. I know Dr Dray can be obsessive and makes many mistakes or conflicting statements, but most of what she says on skin topics are based on actual science and expert knowledge. I trust her knowledge. I don’t always take her advice just like patients don’t always take doctors advice. Doctors may not always be right but they are right more often than us or “influencers” on areas that they are specialists.
I like Dr. Dray and think she has some good advice, but she's flip-flopped on a lot of her stances. It's like she realized being a militant nazi about certain ingredients got her more clicks and likes and she decided to embrace that persona. If you go back to her earliest videos, she was using perfumed body sprays and advising which facial oils were best for skin. Now she says those things are the devil's workshop. Bottom line: do what works best for you.
Dan M7 no one is saying her obsessiveness is normal. I am just saying her expertise in dermatology makes her statements in topics related to skincare quite valid. She talks about many topics other than freaking sunscreens so you should overlook your prejudice to appreciate her knowledge and willingness to share. She does not have a degree in nutrition so her poor diet does not say anything about her qualification as a dermatologist. She looks emaciated but she does not seem to have problems breathing or maintaining her exercise habit so maybe whatever she is doing with her diet may not be as deteriorating to her health as many of you think.
Thank you so much! I have recently joined the "skincare community " and I started to feel bad because I didn't want to wear sunscreen indoors ( it's a little too extreme for me ) .. but everyone on the internet preaches about it. This honestly made me feel a lot better. Good information!
You're probably the first skincare-interested youtuber who has brought up the benefits of uv rays 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
My window faces the east with no trees or buildings, so I get full Direct UVA for half the day. So I always layer on a good UVA protecting sunscreen each morning. It makes sense that other people's situations are different though, when they're only exposed to a diffuse uva in their homes.
How many times do you reapply
OMG i've been wondering this for the whole quarantine!
I would really like to hear dr dray’s opinion on this video, because she has given me so much anxiety over the use of sunscreen 😂
SAME!
Yes, but she has actually helped me. I just take the advice that I need and leave the rest. I don't agree with alot of what she says and does and that is why I do my own research and I do what works for me. Everyone is different, have different opinions and different skin care needs.
She drove me crazy until I stopped giving a damn 😁 Anxiety is worse than sunlight exposure.
If we work outdoors 8 hours a day during winter in the Pacific Northwest, the daily UVA dose may be high enough for us to benefit from sun protection.
As a Canadian, this is what I found for UV index from 0 to 2 in terms of recommendations:
Minimal sun protection required for normal activity. Wear sunglasses on bright days. If outside for more than one hour, cover up and use sunscreen. Reflection off snow can nearly double UV strength, so wear sunglasses and apply sunscreen on your face.
Finally, I've understood how I should be applying my spf! I've practically stayed only indoors for the last 5 months(LITERALLY) and I barely get any diffused uv, and was reapplying spf 50 pa+++ 3-4 times a day even though it costed me so much money!
“Melanin deprived” is the best.
@Your thoughts Not mine the opposite is true actually... less melanin = faster aging = higher probability of getting skin cancer :c
@Your thoughts Not mine they're saying "melanin deprived" is haha funny
@@BernardoPatino It really ISN’T!
@@vetsai8199 the phrasing. they're not judging whiteness
@@BernardoPatino I have always wished to be darker; I’m on the light side of Fitzpatrick 3. FP4,5,6 age so much better!
This made me proper chuckle out loud.
And then I learnt things. The best of all worlds.
Thank you Michelle. Your dedication to our education is much appreciated as well as your self sacrifice. I was hoping for better news as I miss the days of completely naked skin.
Madnessonbellrecovery but she basically says diffuse uva isnt that big of a risk depending on your situation. do you sit by huge windows that this didnt calm you down?
@@glithch I am of Scotts/Irish heritage and I have had skin lesions biopsied on two occasions years apart. It would be foolish of me to break such a habit of daily sunscreen no matter what I am doing any given day.
Last time i was this early I did not use sunscreen indoors
And you still don’t need to if you actually watched the video lol
@@ginnyfergodwin3450 if you watched the video you know it depends. lol
@@ginnyfergodwin3450 have you looked at my profile picture? I am impossibly pale, redheaded and with light eyes. Given that I live in Brazil and that my mom and grandma suffered from melanoma, I think I am a pretty good candidate to wear sunscreen everyday, even according to the video.
@@samanthakrueger-gundy2998 omg thank you!! I am pretty freckly but the camera washes them out a little. I think the only way to get rid of them is by laser treatment, however it is not super effective bc they will come back, as it is dictated by our melanin distribution, it would be comparable to trying lighten a person that was born with dark skin, it will become brighter, but it will always comeback.
Don't worry, freckles are beautiful 😊
Hi, a fellow redhead over here! I live in an arid dessert: Sonora, México. Every day in summer we are at 107°F to 111°F (sadly the rest of the year is not very different lol). Most of the windows at my house have double curtains, the window in my room is covered with aluminum foil and also double curtains. Some days I still wonder if I need to wear sunscreen at home, probably I'm just paranoid lol.
I need this video!! There are days that are too hot and I refuse to go out. I have used sunscreen indoors while staying at home. It makes me uncomfortable with the constant stickiness and the worry of having sunscreen on my pillow while taking an afternoon nap. This video is really useful. 😃
Funny enough when I got my new bed set it came with one of those decorative pillow that you really don’t use at night, well now I use it as my sunscreen pillow, lol. The woes of wearing sunscreen and loving naps.
Maybe put a towel on top?
. People have real problems and you're bitching about sunblock and naps and pillows.
@@mave143 What an interesting assumption you have 😊
@@mave143 Doesn't sound like bitching unless we're talking about your comment.
You’re my favorite teacher!!! So hilarious too. Thank you for this video and all he educational stuff you do! It must be so incredibly hard emotionally too, being in the public eye. People can be so critical, even cruel. But so many scientists/people who are only interested in getting to the truth as much as possible have always been criticized, ridiculed, even persecuted if it didn’t “fit in” to the times, only for those same ideas to be embraced as the norm a couple hundred years later.. The truth is also not black and white yes or no, but much more complex!!
I really appreciate what you’re doing, please know. And so does many, many others. ♥️
Ahh Michelle, I am so happy you made this video!!!
I badgered you with a bunch of questions about sunscreen indoors and at what distance away from a window was exposure negligent, etc, about a year ago on one of your videos because I use photosensitizing products head to toe, am home a lot, walk around like a damn nudist, and like to keep blinds open for the kitties and doggies.
You were so kind to respond and honest about not really knowing, and I really appreciated it. THIS is the exact kind of information I had been looking for, and I am so grateful for you looking into this headache and making everything accessible for us!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for all that you do!
Absolutely one of the BEST skin related videos I’ve watch on RUclips all year. I have been wondering for so long about so many topics discussed here. Thank you for taking the time to research and present this information so clearly and effectively.
This is a fantastic comprehensive answer to a very apt question. Thanks, Michelle!
I've been researching this for the past two months and haven't gotten a straightforward answer. This video has answered ALL of my questions. Thank you sooo much. You're a life saver
Thank you for doing such thorough and nuanced deep dive! Plus the editing was *chefs kiss*
Thank you, this answers so many questions! I've wondered about UVA variability as well, glad to see that was addressed
It is a relief to hear some practical advice here. I have been a faithful sunscreen wearer for over 30 years. My skin is definitely the better for it, aging wise. But I have not worn it indoors, it definitely contributes to clogged pores on me, my skin looks far better if I am able to take some breaks from it in that regard.
This literally answered all the questions I was asking myself for so long and I couldnt find an answer online. Thank you so much for this! Love your channel and keep up the good work.
Anyway the editing and jokes on this video is GOLD!
Thank you for cheering me up!
LOVE THIS! I'm an Aussie who sits approx 3 metres from her window (with blinds closed cos is Australia and it's still super bright in the room!) and you've just answered ALL THE QUESTIONS I had and more about whether wearing sunscreen indoors is necessary. Absolutely nobody can refute this information because it's based on SCIENCE and that's a winner. Thank you so much for doing this long needed video. ❤️
I'm glad it was helpful! 😊
That’s super interesting. As someone with very little melanin in my skin and an over 75% incidence of various skin cancers in my family just by going to the grandparent/aunt or uncle level, I’m not in the position to take a chance but it’s something I’ve wondered for those with less of a very high risk for months.
I love how you've backed this up with actual science and calculations. The effort is much appreciated! Content like this is hard to find. 😍💖
Thank you Michelle, for all the work you put in. This was so so helpful.
Oh my goodness... that was a masterclass in teaching as well as really useful information! BRAVO!
i like to let my skin breathe indoors without all that gloop. my desk is in a dark corner
Skin doesn’t breathe, that’s the duty of your lungs.
@@BabibRodent its an expression
unless that "gloop" is moisturiser
@@starflower666 it's a wrong expression
If you have the right sunscreen you don’t feel “gloop”
i am so glad you posted this! i’ve recently gotten prescribed some products to help out a really bad acne breakout and the pharmacist insisted on me getting sunscreen because the products will make my skin sensitive to sun, but i found it unnecessary because i don’t go outside nor do i have any windows that face the sun and it is almost always cloudy/foggy where i live- thanks to you, i am able to better form a decision of whether or not to wear it during lockdown!
This is such a good video! I've been reading studies about this and so happy you covered it. There is so much obsessive behaviour regarding sunscreen, it's painful. And you can do so much at home to protect yourself from UVA that will help you more than a sunscreen with a PPD of 16-20. Like having window films that block you UV in extreme cases, having blackout curtains and so on
Yes! Love a nerdy SPF video, thanks Michelle. Since I practically live outdoors here in southern Spain, with my Nordic skin- you could say I lather up religiously. Finding the right one sure does help! It's just a part of my routine now and doesn't bother me much.
FINALLY someone who did the actual math on this, love this
You linked your sources and even put the number of the page! You are truly amazing!!
Omg where have you been all my life! The science-y channel I’ve been looking for!
I always check the UV before I go out. As a dark skinned person, I don’t apply unless it’s 4+, and even then only if I’ll be in direct sunlight for over 20 minutes. I figure 20 mins of sun exposure is healthy dose of vit D. I also avoid going out during the day time and do my walks at sunset only so I don’t have to wear it. I only wear it when I know I’m spending significant time outdoors on a sunny day.
pomegranate93 I like your approach and do the same, hopefully being white doesn’t change things too much :p
I am also a dark skinned woman and I apply sunscreen every day even if I don't leave my house. I do this after I wash my face in the morning. Like you, I try to avoid going out for walks in the middle of the day and instead do early mornings or evening. Also, I don't reapply sunscreen unless I am at the beach,the pool, or hiking. I figure with the melanin and the application is more than enough.
Thank you for answering those "in between" questions when it comes to this kind of thing. I always wondered about the variables of indirect sunlight, skin tone (light skinned blacks/asians/indians), incidental sun exposure (in a car, during errands), and the UV index. Great break down! Thanks again!
how can something be this entertaining (that editing omg), this rational and in-depht at the same time 🤩
I've been wondering this for the last few days. This video came right on time!
Girl really did the most 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Love you so much!! I've googled this question so much and never come away feeling like I learned anything 😅
Thank You So Much for this! I had a feeling but was listening to what I consider radical views on sunscreen and doubted my logic. Appreciate Michelle and having facts instead of fear.
I'm blown away! 😮 Thank you so much for taking the time to research this so thoroughly and carefully! 🙇🏻🙇🏻🙇🏻 You're absolutely brilliant! 👌🏼❤💕
I love how it is very situation-based! (And thank you for your time to try calculate that super overwhelming diffuse-sky view formula)
And yes, thank you on mentioning COST as consideration!
Sunscreen is expensive no matter where you buy it if you compare it to other products (the decent one to use)
I live in a quite crowded area where my house has no gap with my neighbours... so my house is quite dark to begin with. Plus, a lot of building in my neighbourhood are "shading" my house (like hotel, another house) because they have more than 1 floor, and my house in only 1 floor. It really different with someone who lived in apartment that has a big window for scenery and live above 1st floor
But of course when I do a lot of activities around my house (like cleaning, cooking etc) I would wear sunscreen, but when I just laying in my bed all day or working on my desk, windows closed... why am I using sunscreen... I would waste a lot of money that I could invest on other important things!
I started care using sunscreen around 4 years ago (16.y.o), you don't know how much money I spend for it (plus money for extra cleanser& moisturiser since when I wear sunscreen I need to cleanse more thoroughly which often my my skin drier). Now I realise how big my money went to skincare...and all these years 60-70% of my skincare budget are went to sunscreen. I want to suppress the money I use for skincare... this is outweigh my capability
everytime I watch your videos, a little bit of me regret that I didn’t continue studying in the science stream after highschool. If I found you 3 years ago, you would totally become my inspiration to continue studying in the science field.
Your channel is amazing!!! I LOVE how much information you provide in your videos that are based in actual science and research. Thank you ❤️
I'm so glad I came across this video!! Re-applying sunscreen indoors without taking into consideration all of those factors is a Herculean effort and is too expensive for me. Thank you!!!
Thank you for this. I am astounded by the cost of sunscreen and I was really trying to prove that sunscreen is not that important if I am inside all these time and my brown-ass skin is protecting me anyways, but all articles says to use sunscreen everyday all the time.
I see a ton of new sunscreens you haven’t mentioned in your channel yet! We need an updated sunscreen review video next! 🤩 BTW the editing of this video is hilarious 😂
Thank you for this video! I’ve actually been thinking about this topic a lot. I also always find myself thinking about your videos a lot after I watch them, and I like that. You give great food for thought, even if there isn’t always a clear black and white answer to the question you’re researching. I like that you present an unbiased look at things that can be hard for some of us to look at with middle ground, esp. after having sun protection so ingrained. I am a sunscreen junkie and will admit I can be a bit fanatical, so this video made me uncomfortable at times, but I think that’s a good thing. I can be a bit of a black and white thinker, even w other topics (I lift weights & woo boy is there debate on which exercises are safe sometimes!) and channels like yours help me see nuance in things. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
OMG, this is I looking for all my lifetime . you're video really hell comprehensive. I really do not need to dive into to all that journal things, thanks to you. God Bless you girl! seriously!
I stopped wearing sunscreen indoors because it irritates my skin, glad to hear I’m not harming my skin
This is such a hilariously great video. Also, it's really refreshing to see a scientist simply say "I got lost in the calculations", rather than pretending or ignoring it. Thank you!!!
I SO APPRECIATE your critical analyses, Sis!
That’s the video I’ve been waiting for! Thank you for explaining this, really useful 😊
This has been very useful - particularly, for me, with regard to children!
I wear sunscreen daily whether I'm inside or outside, rain or shine. Sunscreen is just part of my routine so I'm so used to it.
Do you reapply every 2 hours?
Amazing video, haven't seen anyone go so in depth into this topic! Thank you
Thanks for the amount of work you do! The genuine advice and truth and along with all that calculations you made my anxious calm down!
Appreciate the firmly evidence-based content as always! Sunscreen is an outdoors only thing for me, I can't stand the idea of the furniture in my home getting all sticky and smelly, so I wash it off before I sit anywhere. No idea how people can put up with constant reapplication when indoors at work or home-gross!
Since being in lockdown I was wondering whether I needed to use sunscreen at home. (Pretty much looking for any good reason to not apply another layer on my face 😆) I love how you use science to back up your claims. Keep it up!
You always ALWAYS deliver the best videos!!! Congratulations and thanks! xoxo from Mexico
Thank you for this! I search about this all the time and barely anyone talks about it
was waiting for this
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next can you make a vdo abt how much our cloths and mask, scarves protect us from uv rays
Very informative video. No one has scared me into applying sunscreen when I am in my house, even though they've tried. Thank you. Peace, and joy..MaryEllen
This is one of the videos I'm most grateful for since published
The most informative and concise video on wearing sun protection. Great video all in all!