Abigail is interesting because he's got so many ups and downs. His initial reveal trailer was a bummer compared to what the competitors were getting and his character story mode is some goofy shit. Unlike Hugo, who's got an exaggerated but plausible physique, Abigail gets Bane's crazy muscles. He's got a face not even a mother could love, which I'd say is half design and half gross 3d modeling. He's not a cool dude, he's not a cute girl, he's not getting any popularity points that way. But what sold _me_ on Abigail was actually playing the dude. His animations and winquotes are all pretty funny stuff, and the way he plays is unlike any other SF character I've played. Playing Abigail, moving around as this playful giant, is so much fun and kinda puts you in his mindset. He's having a great time, and when I'm playing Abigail, so am I. I hope they bring him over next time - In a more Alpha-like artstyle, he'd probably look absolutely amazing since we'd get the big dude without the gross facial features or grotesque muscles. Bit disappointed in this episode, Abi. Even if you're not a Final Fight dude, and McMuscles did the job fine, I'd have liked to hear your take on the animations and character design.
If he does come back i hope they dial back his design a bit not by much bc his unappealling features makes him stand out from the roster bc he he doesn't look perfectly sculpted but i see where you are getting. Still he could use depth maybe why he is well him, maybe its bc of a lack of study or parenting which might explain why he is so attached to cars bc it's the only passion his mind can grasp. (Although might make him sad it would be fun to see interactions where the characters try to teach to be a better person, how that would turn out? That is up to capcom)
You neglected to mention that Abigail has the single most greatest backdash in fighting game history! The finger guns were absolutely the moment I was sold on Abigail as a character and I haven't looked back since
Abigail was the first grappler added to the game since Alex, who was the very first DLC character. Sure, the game had a bunch of big characters early on, but it had been over a year since the last character with a command throw had been added, which is why he didn't feel like an over-saturation of big bodies.
I'm surprised you list several "Big Guy" SF characters but no mention of T-Hawk or the 7 ft walking wall of muscle named Sagat. Fun Fact, IIRC, Hugo's design is inspired by late pro wrestler Andre The Giant.
So, you talk a lot about Abigail as a character and such, but you never really mention his animations per se. There's no real analysis on how he moves, the good things or the bad things... you just say that he's a big guy and does big guy moves, even talking about the origins of his moves (with the help of the awesome Matt McMuscles!) without actually addressing the animations of those moves and such. I love your vids, but this one felt like it was missing what the other vids have been focusing on.
Abigail can have the best animations in the world and that will not change the fact that is the worst character design (along with Lucky Chloe) of this generation.
Says the one with the abel picture. And if honestly thats what missing then thats fine. You dont have to talk about animation in game analysis everytime or it will get stale and reptitive
I think there's one big character who has a personality besides being big and strong, while not being as "obnoxious" as Abigail: Iron Tager from Blazblue Iron Tager has this scientist vibe, from his rather methodological and subdued lines, to his story where he acts as both as an assitant and field researcher for Kokonoe, and especially his glass readjusting habit he does every so often, a trait that anime like to use to denote that one is a scientist. The fact that Iron Tager actually doesn't use any sort of Magic that's common in his series, but rather a technological invention (i.e. robot) himself further cements his role as an avatar of science. Even his in Astral Finish, where he comes out of his crator, the most notable thing you see is his glasses shining upon his massive body with a stern look is a very cool and subtle way of showing his rather stern and methodological personality. It's not the most outlandish personality, considering what Blazblue is, but I like showing a rather subdued personality like this.
Yeah, he's one of the first Q's both with personality that English speakers can detect. (Potemkin is GG before Xrd is just kinda military). And as much as I love Big Band, Skullgirls uses so much ideas for Arc Sys's work, I have to credit their work before Xrd first.
You could also mention Potemkin, who is the guy Tager was sorta based on. He's a big, heavyweight fighter who's actually one of the more intelligent members of the cast and really just fights to make life better for people.
I remember that i absolutely despised Abigail overall since day 1, he was just an embarrasing design in my eyes, but it didnt took too much after that for him to start growing on me, he turned out to be a really fun and hype character after all
Finally! My boi Abigail’s A.B.I.Torial is here! Now I can go on my shpeal: So, the word of the day with Abigail is “Intimidation.” Fun fact for you: in SFV, the camera scales in closer when the two characters are closer, so when Abigail is right on top of you, his already huge frame is made to look EVEN HUGER, covering up the damn lifebar, even! This works in Abigail’s favor because he is a big, scary beatdown/grappler character. He wants to be on top of you, and then he wants you to panic, because when you panic, the Abigail player uses that against you to open you up and ruin your day with Abi’s CRAZY damage. So the best counter for Abi is to stay calm, and don’t let his size and damage scare you. Because of the slow recovery on his moves, waiting for your opportunity to hit him back is your best bet. So: Abigail’s gameplay revolves around this idea of intimidating his opponent, but we ain’t done yet! Cuz Capcom went the full mile by making the rest of him all about breaking that intimidation: Abi is a strong character, he’s good at melting lifebars like no one ever was. But his defense is lacking, to say the least: he’s bad at dealing with zoning, and he’s bad at dealing with an in your face 24-7, non-stop pressure character. This is all part of that theme of breaking intimidation: Abi’s a bully, but if you bully him back, he’ll fall just like anyone else would. This also shines through in his personality: He’s an 8 foot tall monstar who’s entirely made up of muscle, and he’s one of the leaders of a notorious street gang. Any sane person would be shaking in their boots at the sight of this guy... And then he opens his mouth and goes “Vroom vroom, I’m a racecar!” And it clicks in your head: Oh, this guy’s not scary at all. Tl;dr I love Abigail, he’s big and scary... But not actually, I don’t care what people say, he is my son. I feed him, he is becoming powerful. I hope this book report of a comment makes enough sense, it’s early, and I haven’t slept yet. Great video, A.B.I, kudos on getting Matt in there, I know you and Kura are big SBFP fans, and so am I, so this was a blast to see in my subscription box!
Cool analysis. I see match ups with Abigail and I'm turned off by his odd charm, but his mechanics are... He's just really different, by what I hear fgc junkies say.
You nailed it! Very insightful analysis !! Love the character. I wasn't able to switch tho, but it's always fun to fight him, also having such a good animated/interesting character in the roster
Nice! That's a very thoughtful analysis, the only thing I would add is that Abigail really has no wakeup game. Originally this was meant to counter his WTFesque damage which later, unfortunately, was nerfed. My own decision to not main him was based entirely on all the hate he got which, let's face it, came because people *were* afraid of him and didn't know how to fight him. I didn't think Capcom would stick to their guns with him and I'm ultimately glad I made that choice, but the work I've put in to learning his match up has been a blast! He's *still* one of the most effective characters in the game I think if only because of his Geometry which admittedly, also works against him.
Abigail is an inevitably controversial, but very brave and funny design. He's a great addition to the roster and the general group of Street Fighter characters.
I actually really like the feeling you get when you play him, you really feel like you're having fun being a big fucking guy, and you see that a lot in his animations.
It's like beat em up Mania this year. Love the video, I was one of the few actually looking forward to seeing what Abigail was all about given his notorious reputation for being the hardest boss in final fight, they didn't disappoint in that regard.
OH, BIG. Also, I really liked Abigail from the start, but yeah, I can see why people would have reason to dislike him, especially after being reminded of the context of his reveal.
I'm probably a minority, but I absolutely LOVE Abigail's character design, animations and overall feeling! He expresses such a great personality through the way he moves and attack :) The reveal trailer was kinda lame, but watching Poongko playing him made me like him over time :)
0:48 "In fact, he's the seventh character from Final Fight to make the jump from Metro City to the world warrior circuit." Not true. Maki's CvS2 rendition was included in the GBA and PSP ports of Alpha 3, making her the sixth FF character to be playable in Street Fighter, Poison the seventh, and Abigail the eighth.
Blanka wasn't all that goofy initially. Actually, he was fairly tragic. He became more of a goof over time. Non of the SF characters were really "goofy" until Dan, who is supposed to be a goof.
2:50 I have to correct you on that. Glacius was the biggest character of season 1. Speaking of Killer Instinct, could you do a video of KI? I would like to know your opinion of the game, animations and designs. Otherwise great video!
Wow....I shock...I was expecting you to destroy Abi...but now I pleasent surprised all the details I didnt knew about Abi...great video...now cant wait for Menat XD
6:51 Gigas very quickly became one of my Favorite Big characters. Also i love how Abigail and Jack are two Literal Big Goofy Characters, but Abigail is REALLY FRIGGIN GOOFY
I don't mind Abigail, but something that I despise is that he deprives Hugo's mantle as being the tallest character in the street fighter roster, effectively making his ENTIRE existence and character pointless.
I think there's still room for Hugo although I do agree Hugo is no longer 'the biggest' which is an unavoidable change. I feel you here, especially really liking Hugo myself. The thing is I also think IPs should be allowed to grow and try new things and reveal new characters and so now Hugo has a 'rival' from a similar franchise who he can't simply be 'bigger' then while also being dramatically different in combat style. Hugo is a grappler whose strikes set up his grapples. Abigail is a striker whose grapples setup his strikes. Hopefully they'll do something with them both.
Um, did you not know final fight was originally supposed to be a STREET FIGHTER game? They've been connected and in the same universe since the first game
To the person who replied a while ago: I don't see your comment here. How bothersome. At any rate, thanks for pointing out that Alex is potentially a clone of Axl and Slash from Final Fight. I wouldn't count him as a character who crossed over because of the name change, but that is definitely worth noting. Thank you. All the name changes and palette-swaps do is confuse things; Transformers fans will probably tell you that!
i love abigail!!!! hes the best character to come on to SFV soo far in my opinion it wold have been nice if you put more effort into this. this Character is the personification of a truck I'm talking cargo trucks BOYZ!!!
as a non sfv player, i was wondering why a lot of people hated his reveal. when other fighting games had epic new character reveals and you only have abigail which most people dont know of, I'd also be disappointed if I were an sf player at the time.
Maki has actually made the transition to SF, even if it was just in some ports of the Alphas. It makes me mad people forget about that, but it is obviously Caocom's fault for not bringing her back!
Abigail is actually also in the original Final Fight game titled Mighty Final Fight (1993) for the NES. If you are interested, play it, it's still a good game.
You forgot to mention that Matt's one of the guys at Super Best Friends. Check them out at thesw1tcher channel. One thing I noticed about Abigail is that his whole height is about 8~9 heads to body proportions, while most other characters remain 4~5. Even Zangief only has 6 at best. I believe that this makes Abigail's proportions very offputting in Street Fighter V, where most other characters have very condensed proportions. Of course the only other character that have very odd proportions is F.A.N.G. , that one freak character.
This is necessary in order to differentiate him from the other big guy characters and body shapes though. I don't mind it honestly as the head to body ratio size is necessary to promote size and is a fundamental part of character design when doing really huge characters. I do get that it might seem unusual compared to most of the roster but bear in mind SF has always had its share of odd ball characters in its roster whose proportions defy the common designs elsewhere in that game. Characters like Hugo, Necro and Elena come to mind. Had Abigail's proportions been more 'normalized' he wouldn't -be- Abigail but would have a body type to close to Zangief to differentiate himself and really establish him as a 'monster' which is a key element of his character. The 'Superhuman' Hot Rodder is his title. He's seems impossible. Etc. The usual rule of thumb is that if you want to exaggerate the body you keep the head proportions small relative to the body size. This is true of Juggernaut, But I do get that this design method and look isn't for everyone. I do happen to like exaggerated physiques and body type variations and think all of the attempts by modders to 'slim' him up really lose what makes the character unique and interesting to watch but your mileage varies. There's certainly SF chars I find off putting. FANG is one of them. :)
yeah he has some freak proportions.. i know it's street fighter but his fucking delts are like balloons its so offputting, even if you looked at the most roided out bodybuilders of all time and doubled their delt size you would never see shoulders that big. i think he's awesome but it's certainly weird.
Well - you don't see people stretching their arms like Dhalsim either :) - There are some bodybuilders out there with over exaggerated delt proportions but I understand as the delts are the main issue I also have though I think they can manage a pass. If they were the same size in proportion but sloping abit more it might look better. The thing is he's meant to resemble less a bodybuilder (that's Zangief) and more an inhuman Juggernaut which is why it doesn't bother me. I've seen mods where they've deflated his shoulders and it just looks ..odd. He loses the frankenstein-monster like hunch and his upper shoulders feel flat in proportion to his arms, like someone sucked the air out of a tire. It just looks power less and bizarre where the big size really works in certain poses like his walk and when his arms are folded. In this case it may be better to have his entire figure over the top then to create a strange taper from top to bottom in the name of 'realism'.
it doesn't really bother me either, but I think that's the biggest reason he might look a little 'off'. Probably more since we're used to seeing the proportions of the chest delts and biceps be a little more in line with one another. If they were covered up i think he would look a little bit better, it's mostly the fact that they're so lean while also being big balloons makes them offputting I think
If it's not much to ask, I'd like to see some Design Shops of characters from UMvC3 Mainly the Capcom side of characters have some *really* cool little things about them that I'd live to see you do, like Ammy from Okami, how her basic walk has the little plants grow in the same style as the Ps2 game. Other characters like Viewful Joe have some nice little things too, like the rose petals when he taunts. MvC Infinite was a big hype train crash, so 3 would be the best. You'd have a good amount of backup for characters too. Tron Bonne for example was in MvC2 and had the Gastaff in an rpg game, which I sadly can't remember the name to. To make you happy, most clothing in the game are animated (I think, they look like it, don't kill me for getting this wrong)
And its about SFV. Thats gonna trigger the true FGC player real bad. True FGC = people who play good fighting games. Anything besides SFV. Because that game is shit and the incarnation of evil and must be destroyed ( i may have gone too far ) I really like Abigail too btw. But then again probably people just gonna mention Iron Tager as one of the unique big guys because he's a smart big guy and everything.
I'll be honest, anyone who has an issue with SF characters cuz of story reasons is very pedantic. SF has a shit story, so honestly, i always liked the characters that had simple, easily communicated personalities. You want a character who's got a cool car aesthetic, just make him obsessed with cars to an unhealthy degree. I mean, people LOVE Hugo, and it's a similar concept for Abigail. A big dumb muscle dude. 'Nuff said.
I guess people do care about story in fighting game these days. SF stories are the most simple thing ever. Kinda like KOF. The stories are really just that simple. You gotta thanks to Blazblue or any fighting game with visual novel style story. With all deep stories for each character and stuff. With that people now want a fighting game with story mode (i guess)
KoF has a lot more going on story-wise, they've just never had the resources to present it very well. But I don't want them to attempt a cinematic mode, because those are expensive and only NetherRealm has demonstrated the talent to get a positive return on that investment. Street Fighter and Dead or Alive never should have bothered, those were negative experiences. Tekken's was a mix of decent and awful. I didn't get very far into Marvel's, but what I saw was bad. For the cost of the cinematic, you could instead hire more staff to create more characters. Characters have more lasting value. Cinematic modes you play once, and most of the time you regret the time spent. That said, there's got to be a happy medium somewhere between a NetherRealm-quality full cinematic mode and SFV's brain cell-destroying regular story mode.
Abigail also appeared in SFXTK in the background along with Sodom. Also this isn't the first time a big characters been silly look at Earthquake he's a Texan ninja who only respects himself and he's Pirate's,He's moveset consists of Farts and burps including blowing fire.And the dude is so big that he can just jump around while swinging he's sickle
I remember you mentioned on a stream that you can’t do a design shop on Travis Touchdown cause you haven’t played No More Heroes but Matt has, maybe y’all can do another collab in the future? Just thought I’d throw it out there
While he was a bit disgustingly proportioned, I still found the core concept of Abigail was pretty sick on release. First playable Canadian, tallest character in ANY SF game, AND he retains that iconic leopard-print muscle shirt that Hugo has. He was pretty much shaping up to be the spiritual successor to Hugo, but with more emphasis on brawling rather than wrestling, to better differentiate him from Zangief. Imo what would've made Abigail WAY better is if they replaced his childish mentality with that of a childish schoolyard bully. Keeping the theme largely the same, but with a darker tone - as he relishes his power and what it allows him to do.
I'd like to get that mohawk character from final fight that always does that slide attack for sfv. I think he was somehow in streets of rage also. Also, goro daimon is a big character with a fighting style!
Personally, my only experience with Abigail was in Mighty Final Fight back in the NES and his whole personality kinda lines up with what SFV gave us. As a big, muscular and cocky weirdo. His character model has a comically large grin on his face, he introduces himself as "The Toughest fighter in the Mad Gear Gang" at the end of Round 3 (Old Town) who then later reappears as a mid-boss of Round 5 (Bay Area) saying "You're no match for me!" marking his cocky attitude, he has an anti air upper cut that sends you flying further away than any other attack and making him the only boss who can effectively counter jump kicks, and he.... kisses you when he goes for the high throw... what the hell? Abigail's stage is set in a ring and with the way the the characters are placed in opposite corners, its safe to assume that its a boxing ring. Which matches up his Critical Art of treating the enemy like a punching bag. This may just be coincidence but its interesting that the stage after defeating Abigail is a factory full of automobiles.
Abigail is interesting because he's got so many ups and downs. His initial reveal trailer was a bummer compared to what the competitors were getting and his character story mode is some goofy shit. Unlike Hugo, who's got an exaggerated but plausible physique, Abigail gets Bane's crazy muscles. He's got a face not even a mother could love, which I'd say is half design and half gross 3d modeling. He's not a cool dude, he's not a cute girl, he's not getting any popularity points that way.
But what sold _me_ on Abigail was actually playing the dude. His animations and winquotes are all pretty funny stuff, and the way he plays is unlike any other SF character I've played. Playing Abigail, moving around as this playful giant, is so much fun and kinda puts you in his mindset. He's having a great time, and when I'm playing Abigail, so am I. I hope they bring him over next time - In a more Alpha-like artstyle, he'd probably look absolutely amazing since we'd get the big dude without the gross facial features or grotesque muscles.
Bit disappointed in this episode, Abi. Even if you're not a Final Fight dude, and McMuscles did the job fine, I'd have liked to hear your take on the animations and character design.
Winning with his EX Abigail Punch is my favorite thing to do, that happy dance of him at the end of the move fill me with joy xD
If he does come back i hope they dial back his design a bit not by much bc his unappealling features makes him stand out from the roster bc he he doesn't look perfectly sculpted but i see where you are getting. Still he could use depth maybe why he is well him, maybe its bc of a lack of study or parenting which might explain why he is so attached to cars bc it's the only passion his mind can grasp. (Although might make him sad it would be fun to see interactions where the characters try to teach to be a better person, how that would turn out? That is up to capcom)
They would have put Menat or Zeku in EVO instead of Abigail and the reception would have been different
You neglected to mention that Abigail has the single most greatest backdash in fighting game history! The finger guns were absolutely the moment I was sold on Abigail as a character and I haven't looked back since
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Dee Jay does that too in SF4
I love that the finger guns are his backdash as well. He's all like, "miss me with that gay shit"
A.B.I. Gail!
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"Abbey...Normal" I think it was. XD
Yes
Matt in a SugarPunch video.
EVEN HERE, YOU CAN'T ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE!
Abigail was the first grappler added to the game since Alex, who was the very first DLC character. Sure, the game had a bunch of big characters early on, but it had been over a year since the last character with a command throw had been added, which is why he didn't feel like an over-saturation of big bodies.
I'm surprised you list several "Big Guy" SF characters but no mention of T-Hawk or the 7 ft walking wall of muscle named Sagat.
Fun Fact, IIRC, Hugo's design is inspired by late pro wrestler Andre The Giant.
I figured that out with Hugo's original name Andore.
So, you talk a lot about Abigail as a character and such, but you never really mention his animations per se. There's no real analysis on how he moves, the good things or the bad things... you just say that he's a big guy and does big guy moves, even talking about the origins of his moves (with the help of the awesome Matt McMuscles!) without actually addressing the animations of those moves and such.
I love your vids, but this one felt like it was missing what the other vids have been focusing on.
Abigail can have the best animations in the world and that will not change the fact that is the worst character design (along with Lucky Chloe) of this generation.
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Says the one with the abel picture. And if honestly thats what missing then thats fine. You dont have to talk about animation in game analysis everytime or it will get stale and reptitive
character DESIGN
he is discussing character DESIGN
and it sucks, like 90% of other things in SFV
If you have seen his other videos about these, you'd know he would address the animations more thoroughly. Which is why I find this video lacking.
Dude you can beat final fight in like 20 minutes
If you're good. I haven't even beat streets of rage without cheating
@@Kilesfactor that ain't your fault
@@darthsalad8204 Oh trust me, it is. Streets of Rage is hard though lol
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I think there's one big character who has a personality besides being big and strong, while not being as "obnoxious" as Abigail: Iron Tager from Blazblue
Iron Tager has this scientist vibe, from his rather methodological and subdued lines, to his story where he acts as both as an assitant and field researcher for Kokonoe, and especially his glass readjusting habit he does every so often, a trait that anime like to use to denote that one is a scientist. The fact that Iron Tager actually doesn't use any sort of Magic that's common in his series, but rather a technological invention (i.e. robot) himself further cements his role as an avatar of science.
Even his in Astral Finish, where he comes out of his crator, the most notable thing you see is his glasses shining upon his massive body with a stern look is a very cool and subtle way of showing his rather stern and methodological personality. It's not the most outlandish personality, considering what Blazblue is, but I like showing a rather subdued personality like this.
He's also a bitch to fight against with his 200 IQ electric counter throws. Holy shit, my Tao can still feel the sting even today.
Tager doesn't count, it's unfair against anyone you might compare him to. :P
Yeah, he's one of the first Q's both with personality that English speakers can detect. (Potemkin is GG before Xrd is just kinda military).
And as much as I love Big Band, Skullgirls uses so much ideas for Arc Sys's work, I have to credit their work before Xrd first.
You could also mention Potemkin, who is the guy Tager was sorta based on. He's a big, heavyweight fighter who's actually one of the more intelligent members of the cast and really just fights to make life better for people.
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Potemkin's personality in GG preXrd isn't clear to me, so if he had fluff that made him less of a monster/military, I couldn't see it.
I remember that i absolutely despised Abigail overall since day 1, he was just an embarrasing design in my eyes, but it didnt took too much after that for him to start growing on me, he turned out to be a really fun and hype character after all
Finally! My boi Abigail’s A.B.I.Torial is here! Now I can go on my shpeal:
So, the word of the day with Abigail is “Intimidation.” Fun fact for you: in SFV, the camera scales in closer when the two characters are closer, so when Abigail is right on top of you, his already huge frame is made to look EVEN HUGER, covering up the damn lifebar, even! This works in Abigail’s favor because he is a big, scary beatdown/grappler character. He wants to be on top of you, and then he wants you to panic, because when you panic, the Abigail player uses that against you to open you up and ruin your day with Abi’s CRAZY damage.
So the best counter for Abi is to stay calm, and don’t let his size and damage scare you. Because of the slow recovery on his moves, waiting for your opportunity to hit him back is your best bet.
So: Abigail’s gameplay revolves around this idea of intimidating his opponent, but we ain’t done yet! Cuz Capcom went the full mile by making the rest of him all about breaking that intimidation:
Abi is a strong character, he’s good at melting lifebars like no one ever was. But his defense is lacking, to say the least: he’s bad at dealing with zoning, and he’s bad at dealing with an in your face 24-7, non-stop pressure character. This is all part of that theme of breaking intimidation: Abi’s a bully, but if you bully him back, he’ll fall just like anyone else would.
This also shines through in his personality: He’s an 8 foot tall monstar who’s entirely made up of muscle, and he’s one of the leaders of a notorious street gang. Any sane person would be shaking in their boots at the sight of this guy... And then he opens his mouth and goes “Vroom vroom, I’m a racecar!” And it clicks in your head: Oh, this guy’s not scary at all.
Tl;dr I love Abigail, he’s big and scary... But not actually, I don’t care what people say, he is my son. I feed him, he is becoming powerful.
I hope this book report of a comment makes enough sense, it’s early, and I haven’t slept yet. Great video, A.B.I, kudos on getting Matt in there, I know you and Kura are big SBFP fans, and so am I, so this was a blast to see in my subscription box!
I don't like SFV's Abigail but I respect you
Cool analysis. I see match ups with Abigail and I'm turned off by his odd charm, but his mechanics are...
He's just really different, by what I hear fgc junkies say.
You nailed it! Very insightful analysis !! Love the character. I wasn't able to switch tho, but it's always fun to fight him, also having such a good animated/interesting character in the roster
I am also on the abigail enthusiasm train. i like his big goofy spirit.
Nice! That's a very thoughtful analysis, the only thing I would add is that Abigail really has no wakeup game. Originally this was meant to counter his WTFesque damage which later, unfortunately, was nerfed. My own decision to not main him was based entirely on all the hate he got which, let's face it, came because people *were* afraid of him and didn't know how to fight him. I didn't think Capcom would stick to their guns with him and I'm ultimately glad I made that choice, but the work I've put in to learning his match up has been a blast! He's *still* one of the most effective characters in the game I think if only because of his Geometry which admittedly, also works against him.
Abigail is an inevitably controversial, but very brave and funny design.
He's a great addition to the roster and the general group of Street Fighter characters.
Local Fan great addition.......riiiiiiiiiight
For some it might be true you know.
I actually really like the feeling you get when you play him, you really feel like you're having fun being a big fucking guy, and you see that a lot in his animations.
Personally I loved interaction between Abigail and Alex in story mode. I wish there were more cool moments like this.
This might be Matt's atempt to scape *The Sadness* ...
Great and insightful crossover!
nice touch with the downpour axe in the background
That fireaxe. We knew exactly what was coming.
It's like beat em up Mania this year. Love the video, I was one of the few actually looking forward to seeing what Abigail was all about given his notorious reputation for being the hardest boss in final fight, they didn't disappoint in that regard.
Yeah, Abigail also grew on me after a while. He’s still not my top newcomer, but he’s alright.
Also, please do Cody, even though he’s a veteran.
OH, BIG. Also, I really liked Abigail from the start, but yeah, I can see why people would have reason to dislike him, especially after being reminded of the context of his reveal.
I love Abigail so much he's just a big dumb idiot but is such a capable fighter and mechanic
I'm probably a minority, but I absolutely LOVE Abigail's character design, animations and overall feeling! He expresses such a great personality through the way he moves and attack :) The reveal trailer was kinda lame, but watching Poongko playing him made me like him over time :)
0:48 "In fact, he's the seventh character from Final Fight to make the jump from Metro City to the world warrior circuit."
Not true. Maki's CvS2 rendition was included in the GBA and PSP ports of Alpha 3, making her the sixth FF character to be playable in Street Fighter, Poison the seventh, and Abigail the eighth.
It should be noted that the original title for Final Fight was Street Fighter '89 and made sense since all of Final Fight is a Street Fight.
I like Abigail. He grew on me a lot. The goofier SF characters that seem to trace their origins back to the weirdos like Blanka are fine by me!
Blanka wasn't all that goofy initially. Actually, he was fairly tragic. He became more of a goof over time. Non of the SF characters were really "goofy" until Dan, who is supposed to be a goof.
Hugeness power creeping.
Love it.
2:50 I have to correct you on that.
Glacius was the biggest character of season 1.
Speaking of Killer Instinct, could you do a video of KI?
I would like to know your opinion of the game, animations and designs.
Otherwise great video!
Glacius was tallest, but he didn't really have that Big Guy Character presence or feel.
love this man child for goodness sake his throw is a forehead flick and mash button for abigail punch ora ora ora thats sick his my main in sfv
Great job A.B.I and it was super cool that Matt was able to guest star in the video!
I haven't played Final Fight so the first time I saw him I was like "I didn't know that Zangief is this huge in SFV"
Wow....I shock...I was expecting you to destroy Abi...but now I pleasent surprised all the details I didnt knew about Abi...great video...now cant wait for Menat XD
Chain grabbing Abigail while playing as Sakura was the most joy a friend and I had playing SF5
Wow, holy shit, worlds collide.
What the fuck, Matt's the last person I expect here.
I honestly love his back dash.
Good job,man! make my anger against Abigail this strange character more decreasely.
This video actually made me like Abigail. And that Canada hair
Yooooo. Great get to have Matt appear in your video. Will get ALOT of attention from it.
sugar punch and Matt from superbestfriends collab what a beautiful world.
you forgot to mention the glorious return of Skullomania amongst the tidal wave of hype announcements from EVO 2017
6:51 Gigas very quickly became one of my Favorite Big characters.
Also i love how Abigail and Jack are two Literal Big Goofy Characters, but Abigail is REALLY FRIGGIN GOOFY
I don't mind Abigail, but something that I despise is that he deprives Hugo's mantle as being the tallest character in the street fighter roster, effectively making his ENTIRE existence and character pointless.
I think there's still room for Hugo although I do agree Hugo is no longer 'the biggest' which is an unavoidable change. I feel you here, especially really liking Hugo myself. The thing is I also think IPs should be allowed to grow and try new things and reveal new characters and so now Hugo has a 'rival' from a similar franchise who he can't simply be 'bigger' then while also being dramatically different in combat style. Hugo is a grappler whose strikes set up his grapples. Abigail is a striker whose grapples setup his strikes. Hopefully they'll do something with them both.
Um, did you not know final fight was originally supposed to be a STREET FIGHTER game? They've been connected and in the same universe since the first game
Now THIS is a collab. First found this channel thanks to "Try to Recall" and now you got the Zaibatsu boss-man on? Neat.
man I really like this series mate I will def check them on out more sorry for keeping you on my recommended for so long
i'm so glad i discovered your series thanks to reddit. always a joy to watch these
Um, Abigail is actually the 8th character from Final Fight. You didn't mention Maki!
Eh, Maki's only appearance was in that PSP version of Alpha 3, which barely even counts... Otherwise, the only game she has appeared in is CvS2.
Yes, I suppose she is much more under the radar than the others. Still, I do think it counts. Thanks for replying
To the person who replied a while ago: I don't see your comment here. How bothersome. At any rate, thanks for pointing out that Alex is potentially a clone of Axl and Slash from Final Fight. I wouldn't count him as a character who crossed over because of the name change, but that is definitely worth noting. Thank you. All the name changes and palette-swaps do is confuse things; Transformers fans will probably tell you that!
O SHIT IT'S MATT ,nice one
i love abigail!!!! hes the best character to come on to SFV soo far in my opinion
it wold have been nice if you put more effort into this. this Character is the personification of a truck I'm talking cargo trucks BOYZ!!!
as a non sfv player, i was wondering why a lot of people hated his reveal. when other fighting games had epic new character reveals and you only have abigail which most people dont know of, I'd also be disappointed if I were an sf player at the time.
Maki has actually made the transition to SF, even if it was just in some ports of the Alphas. It makes me mad people forget about that, but it is obviously Caocom's fault for not bringing her back!
Abigail is actually also in the original Final Fight game titled Mighty Final Fight (1993) for the NES. If you are interested, play it, it's still a good game.
THE HYPEST COLLAB ON RUclips
Choo Choo? You mean Vroom Vroom!!!!
I would be interested in a design shop on Killer Instinct. Maybe a comparison video between Balrog and TJ Combo? Idk, I’d take anything really.
I dig Abigail, he's fun.
i honestly don’t know why people don’t like abigail, he’s sick as a character and as a design. he’s got that classic goofy street fighter look
Waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait, you're favorite addition to SF is Poison? You will soon become my best friend!
You forgot to mention that Matt's one of the guys at Super Best Friends. Check them out at thesw1tcher channel.
One thing I noticed about Abigail is that his whole height is about 8~9 heads to body proportions, while most other characters remain 4~5. Even Zangief only has 6 at best. I believe that this makes Abigail's proportions very offputting in Street Fighter V, where most other characters have very condensed proportions. Of course the only other character that have very odd proportions is F.A.N.G. , that one freak character.
This is necessary in order to differentiate him from the other big guy characters and body shapes though. I don't mind it honestly as the head to body ratio size is necessary to promote size and is a fundamental part of character design when doing really huge characters. I do get that it might seem unusual compared to most of the roster but bear in mind SF has always had its share of odd ball characters in its roster whose proportions defy the common designs elsewhere in that game. Characters like Hugo, Necro and Elena come to mind. Had Abigail's proportions been more 'normalized' he wouldn't -be- Abigail but would have a body type to close to Zangief to differentiate himself and really establish him as a 'monster' which is a key element of his character. The 'Superhuman' Hot Rodder is his title. He's seems impossible. Etc. The usual rule of thumb is that if you want to exaggerate the body you keep the head proportions small relative to the body size. This is true of Juggernaut,
But I do get that this design method and look isn't for everyone. I do happen to like exaggerated physiques and body type variations and think all of the attempts by modders to 'slim' him up really lose what makes the character unique and interesting to watch but your mileage varies. There's certainly SF chars I find off putting. FANG is one of them. :)
They didn't forget. He just doesn't want to do SBF anymore.
yeah he has some freak proportions.. i know it's street fighter but his fucking delts are like balloons its so offputting, even if you looked at the most roided out bodybuilders of all time and doubled their delt size you would never see shoulders that big. i think he's awesome but it's certainly weird.
Well - you don't see people stretching their arms like Dhalsim either :) - There are some bodybuilders out there with over exaggerated delt proportions but I understand as the delts are the main issue I also have though I think they can manage a pass. If they were the same size in proportion but sloping abit more it might look better. The thing is he's meant to resemble less a bodybuilder (that's Zangief) and more an inhuman Juggernaut which is why it doesn't bother me. I've seen mods where they've deflated his shoulders and it just looks ..odd. He loses the frankenstein-monster like hunch and his upper shoulders feel flat in proportion to his arms, like someone sucked the air out of a tire. It just looks power less and bizarre where the big size really works in certain poses like his walk and when his arms are folded. In this case it may be better to have his entire figure over the top then to create a strange taper from top to bottom in the name of 'realism'.
it doesn't really bother me either, but I think that's the biggest reason he might look a little 'off'. Probably more since we're used to seeing the proportions of the chest delts and biceps be a little more in line with one another. If they were covered up i think he would look a little bit better, it's mostly the fact that they're so lean while also being big balloons makes them offputting I think
If it's not much to ask, I'd like to see some Design Shops of characters from UMvC3
Mainly the Capcom side of characters have some *really* cool little things about them that I'd live to see you do, like Ammy from Okami, how her basic walk has the little plants grow in the same style as the Ps2 game. Other characters like Viewful Joe have some nice little things too, like the rose petals when he taunts. MvC Infinite was a big hype train crash, so 3 would be the best. You'd have a good amount of backup for characters too. Tron Bonne for example was in MvC2 and had the Gastaff in an rpg game, which I sadly can't remember the name to. To make you happy, most clothing in the game are animated (I think, they look like it, don't kill me for getting this wrong)
Oh no a semi positive analytical video about Abigail, can't wait to see the fcg's reaction (I love Abigail by the by)
And its about SFV. Thats gonna trigger the true FGC player real bad.
True FGC = people who play good fighting games. Anything besides SFV. Because that game is shit and the incarnation of evil and must be destroyed ( i may have gone too far )
I really like Abigail too btw. But then again probably people just gonna mention Iron Tager as one of the unique big guys because he's a smart big guy and everything.
Abigail is a character whose personality in-game outshines his aesthetic.
I'd agree if basically everything in his personality wasn't already being done by other characters. Just play Birdie.
Matt , the ambassador of the Best friends, he is everywhere.
0:48 Actually he's the 8th because Maki from Final Fight 2 was in Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max.
Enjoying the video but could use a bit more substance. This makes me want to play him
Nobody can beat the Hugo Head Waggle
I'll be honest, anyone who has an issue with SF characters cuz of story reasons is very pedantic. SF has a shit story, so honestly, i always liked the characters that had simple, easily communicated personalities. You want a character who's got a cool car aesthetic, just make him obsessed with cars to an unhealthy degree. I mean, people LOVE Hugo, and it's a similar concept for Abigail. A big dumb muscle dude. 'Nuff said.
I guess people do care about story in fighting game these days. SF stories are the most simple thing ever. Kinda like KOF. The stories are really just that simple.
You gotta thanks to Blazblue or any fighting game with visual novel style story. With all deep stories for each character and stuff. With that people now want a fighting game with story mode (i guess)
KoF has a lot more going on story-wise, they've just never had the resources to present it very well. But I don't want them to attempt a cinematic mode, because those are expensive and only NetherRealm has demonstrated the talent to get a positive return on that investment. Street Fighter and Dead or Alive never should have bothered, those were negative experiences. Tekken's was a mix of decent and awful. I didn't get very far into Marvel's, but what I saw was bad. For the cost of the cinematic, you could instead hire more staff to create more characters. Characters have more lasting value. Cinematic modes you play once, and most of the time you regret the time spent.
That said, there's got to be a happy medium somewhere between a NetherRealm-quality full cinematic mode and SFV's brain cell-destroying regular story mode.
Abigail also appeared in SFXTK in the background along with Sodom. Also this isn't the first time a big characters been silly look at Earthquake he's a Texan ninja who only respects himself and he's Pirate's,He's moveset consists of Farts and burps including blowing fire.And the dude is so big that he can just jump around while swinging he's sickle
Can't wait for a Cody video.
MATT DROPPING MAD KNOWLEDGE
I like Abigail because he like a big character
Mmm… You forgot about Maki. So, Abigail is not 7th, but 8th, I believe. She appeared in Street Fighter Alpha 3 Upper.
Finally got a Canadian Street Fighter. It's just what we always wanted right guys?... guys?
His alt. costume is pretty much Giant Hwoarang.
I remember you mentioned on a stream that you can’t do a design shop on Travis Touchdown cause you haven’t played No More Heroes but Matt has, maybe y’all can do another collab in the future? Just thought I’d throw it out there
First I thought he was a joke of a character but he's actually a strong hype character
I'm personality not a fan of him. But I'll admit, in the right hands he's a force to be reckoned with. correction, a force to wreck with.
Hell yeah, Matt is here
Actually, Abigail is the 8th Final Fight character to be in SF, you forgot about Maki
I just realized a baby would be like a action figure to Abigail
While he was a bit disgustingly proportioned, I still found the core concept of Abigail was pretty sick on release. First playable Canadian, tallest character in ANY SF game, AND he retains that iconic leopard-print muscle shirt that Hugo has. He was pretty much shaping up to be the spiritual successor to Hugo, but with more emphasis on brawling rather than wrestling, to better differentiate him from Zangief.
Imo what would've made Abigail WAY better is if they replaced his childish mentality with that of a childish schoolyard bully. Keeping the theme largely the same, but with a darker tone - as he relishes his power and what it allows him to do.
I actually loved Abigail. Still do.
Big buff big BOI!!!
1:18 Ok, Capcom MUST'VE taken inspiration from Eisidisi from JoJo when they made that artwork with the axe on it.
Poison is one of my favorites too. Could you do a design shop on her? I’d really appreciate it.
0:50
Eight if you count Maki, who is only in some versions of Alpha 3.
Best collab ever
Honestly I really like this big goofball.
And yet he's one of the most OP characters and always makes it to Top 8 in tournaments. The HYPEocrasy.
I really wish you would do another video on abi he turned out to be a great add and animated better than cody
I probably wouldn't have disliked Abigail as much if they didn't reveal him during EVO.
SugarPunch loves traps
I'd like to get that mohawk character from final fight that always does that slide attack for sfv. I think he was somehow in streets of rage also.
Also, goro daimon is a big character with a fighting style!
Ahem. *Double Finger guns Back dash*
Love Abigail love big characters
CANT ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE
So why doesn't street fighter make their story modes like final fight? Like I can't have been the only one to think of this?
Personally, my only experience with Abigail was in Mighty Final Fight back in the NES and his whole personality kinda lines up with what SFV gave us. As a big, muscular and cocky weirdo.
His character model has a comically large grin on his face, he introduces himself as "The Toughest fighter in the Mad Gear Gang" at the end of Round 3 (Old Town) who then later reappears as a mid-boss of Round 5 (Bay Area) saying "You're no match for me!" marking his cocky attitude, he has an anti air upper cut that sends you flying further away than any other attack and making him the only boss who can effectively counter jump kicks, and he.... kisses you when he goes for the high throw... what the hell?
Abigail's stage is set in a ring and with the way the the characters are placed in opposite corners, its safe to assume that its a boxing ring. Which matches up his Critical Art of treating the enemy like a punching bag.
This may just be coincidence but its interesting that the stage after defeating Abigail is a factory full of automobiles.
I LOVE ABIGAIL!!!
Wait, what? HOW DID I MISS THIS?!?!
Maki was in Street Fighter Alpha 3 M.A.X.