Archie's Father Never Saw His Potential | All In The Family
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2022
- Archie and his estranged brother have a heart-to-heart in the local saloon.
From Season 8, Episode 21 'The Brother': Before an operation, Archie's brother tries to smooth over differences that occurred long ago.
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One of the most acclaimed comedy series of all time, All in the Family with Archie Bunker as the irascible, highly opinionated, working-class family man who viewed the world on his terms and his terms only. When not arguing with his liberal son-in-law, "Meathead," Archie took refuge in his long-suffering wife, Edith, who tries her best to understand Archie's conservative ways and outdated beliefs.
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Damn. Carroll O'Conner is absolutely incredible.
What makes this scene even sadder is that Archie's brother is dying of cancer, and sought Archie out to make amends with him before he died. Archie found out that his brother is dying, but chose not to tell him he knew, because he knew that his brother didn't want him to know.
That makes this scene ten times sadder when you know that.
Was it not that his brother was just checking was not sure what the diagnosis was till then.
Poor Archie. Such a sweet man really.
Wonderful scene, brilliantly performed by both actors. One of Archie’s genuinely human moments.
Carroll O'Conner is quite possibly the BEST actor of all time! His timing and subtle facial expressions convey meaning far beyond just his lines! Simply the BEST IMO!
Possibly the finest sitcom actor that ever lived.
Agreed!
Without a doubt number one in my book you are without a doubt completely right God bless Archie I know that we all miss him.
Amen darlin👏🏾
Superb actor. So was Jean Stapleton
No doubt
I remember when this first aired. I thought it was brilliantly done. Now that I'm in my 60s, I understand it more than ever.
Same here.
Wow! Was Carroll O'Conner a great actor or what?! His lines and emotion are the BEST I've ever watched!
What you say to or about your kids can impact them do much, for good or bad.
@@kathyk2777 Was that her way of saying you were book smart, but had no
common sense? How do we define intelligence? Who is the smarter one?
The person who got decent grades in high school who retired early, or
the class valedictorian who works, and retires at 65? I thought my father
was the same way. He never rewarded his kids when they did good. But he
would be quick to punish if we did bad. Makes no sense right? But you do
not have the time to dwell on that, you can only move ahead with your own
choices, and reflect on them until another decision becomes imminent.
You always find the daddy's little girl's syndrome locking horns with the mother.
Strange is it not? Ever see the movie The Graduate? All that intelligence being
thrown down the chute. Potential being wasted, and the parents were worried!
Was she getting you off your a## when scolding you? It sounds like it. How did she
treat other siblings if any? The same? Your father? The same? If she did so, she had
the issues, and not you! Apologies if I am too invasive. Others who you worked with
would think otherwise. Everybody does stupid things at home, lol! I know I have!
Your mom had a short patience streak it seemed. My dad was he same. He had
little patience, and a short temper. You must have been more like you dad. Cool,
calm, and collected.
Archie always portrayed himself as tough but deep down inside he was a misunderstood softie that had a poor & rough childhood which led to him ending up like he did as an adult.
Not only Archie.There are many Archie's in this World!!!
Yes ! Archie was a product of his environment. The episode "Two's a Crowd" illustrates this perfectly.
Mike gets some insight into Archie's mindset as he talks about growing up during the depression, being poor, bullied and abused by his father (whom he idolized)
EDIT I don't remember the episode name but there's a wonderful scene where Edith tells Mike that Archie yells at him because he's jealous. Another eye opening moment for Mike
@@kurtbarlow9402 Mike reminds Edith of that when Archie forged her name to buy Kelsey's Bar. Buying the bar is Archie's chance to be somebody.
@@MrBronx61
YES ! Nice catch. There's so many wonderful moments in the series.
@@kurtbarlow9402 That's why I hate how they ended Mike's character. Lazy writing IMO, just to give Gloria her own show.
Archie and Fred, real brother's! 👍🙏🤣❤️
The series is peppered with scenes like this that convey Archie is the way he is, largely because of his father.
Archie was a horrible bigot. But, like you say, he was taught to be so by his Father.
STILL the best show to come out of the 1970's. This should should be required watching at ANY acting or film school. THIS is how you do television.
Still, for being 50 years old (or almost) the picture quality looks good. All In The Family is a perfect candidate for a HD remaster. Imagine what could be done with that film stock that they used back then. Though the "nostalgic" look is part of the charm of the show, I would love to see the entire series in 4k HD one day.
Absolutely..... When he found out Gloria had miscarriage....... When Gloria & Mike left to move to California.....and.... especially when Edith passed,! Carroll was fabulous!!!!
Now, it's all making sense to me about Archie! Deep down he was a misunderstood, tortured soul. Still, he was so good with displaying real compassion, love, loyalty,and kindness ❤️. I and probably some others can relate to him.
That's probably why Carroll O'Connor was cast in the TV version of In the Heat of the Night as Chief Gillespie, another character who had to learn some things, and unlearn some others.
Their dad gave Fred everything and Archie so little was because their dad knew that Archie was strong enough to overcome it. Fred needed help.
Parents who play favorites to that degree have personality disorders. In real life parents like the one described in this episode don't give a rat's behind if their child is strong enough to overcome or becomes a homeless drug addict. Facts!
You know it is damn fine acting when you forget they are acting and feel emotions.
This is the magic of great acting that pulls us in and Mr. O'Connor was of that caliber. The other actor in the scene, Richard McKenzie, is still with us and does an excellent job as well and such working actors live to get a chance to do these kinds of scenes.
Sadly, Richard McKenzie passed away, December 1st, 2023; two months ago.
I remember December 1st, 2023---it was a Friday. It was also on a Friday, December 1st, 1978, when my grandmother had passed.
Mr. McKenzie lived to be 93 years old. That's a full life.
Some of the best acting, ever. I remember watching this as a kid and being impressed.
Funny how we judge our parents without knowing their whole story!!!!!
Loved this show so much!! This episode, absolutely tugged at my heart!!! So can relate.
Carroll O’connor…. My childhood hero!! My favourite actor! He was in his own league!!
This scene, the Vietnam draft dodger scene, mourning Edith....these are some of the high points in TV history. Carroll O'Connor could portray human emotions with a depth and realism that few actors could match. Maybe it was because he himself faced his own difficulties. For me, he is one of the greatest actors of all time.
And don’t forget, Archie was a also a senator in Cleopatra! Not too many club owners can say that. 🤣💪
And a general following up on the progress being made by Kelly's Heroes behind enemy lines.
Oh yeah, and a naval officer serving In Harm's Way under Joihn Wayne.
Oh yeah, and a naval officer serving In Harm's Way under Joihn Wayne.
This scene between Archie and his brother was very emotional. Even Archie was emotional.😢
Wow, what a heartfelt episode..... Great episode...
This is why Archie hates Mike. It’s not just the politics. He sees in Mike all the opportunities that he never got. I can relate. I wasn’t allowed to go to school until I was 16. My dad quit work and forced my mom back into nursing so he could stay home and teach religious studies to me. He didn’t care about academics if I didn’t buy in to his religious beliefs.
You're right, but I don't think he hated Mike ever. He knew at the end of the day, that if he died that Mike would take care of Gloria. He was just jealous
@@TheGonzoArt Until Mike ran off to a commune and left Gloria and Joey behind.
He never hated Mike
@@TheGonzoArt Very true and Edith explained this to Mike in the "Games Bunkers Play" episode.
@@22trem Yeah, I was sad that Mike would just give up and hide away in a commune.
Dads are very important
Poor Arch looks like a sad bulldog
God, that’s brilliant.
Archie had some pretty eyes 😃
He looks more like he's related to Mike
That was some fantastic camera work.
People who are bigoted tend to have something inside themselves that makes them have to be better than others and for a long time, Archie never had that. It just goes to show that bigotry isn’t inherent but it’s learned and cultivated
Archie is like that though to a degree, in his past he learned that that's how one lived by the people who influenced him, His father abused, degraded him and exposed him to the disrespect of minorities and Archie didn't know any better to the point he was bullied by minorities because of it. The thing about Archie is though, while at times he's stuck in the past he's willing to break bread and have a good time with minorities despite the way he talks and sees them which means he has an open mind, he struggles at times but through the series he grows and while he doesn't come out squeaky clean... He's still a better man for it. In one episode he claims to have said the N word in the past, in a future episode he punches his Lodge leader buddy for using it. If that's not character growth... Idk what is.
He was a great actor in all in the family and in the heat of rhe night he was the best
Wish Archie had gotten a chance to go to college
He became a cop later if it helps
@@cintelwhite7176 LOL
His dad wasn't crazy. He saw greatness and strength in Archie and knew he'd be alright without his help. His brother on the other hand was Archies opposite, needed everything. Archie was a great guy with all his faults.
100%
Archie's father was a bum. Not a homeless man, but the other kind of bum. The only thing missing is that he didn't name one of his sons Sue.
Sorry. I have to disagree. You should look into narcissistic parenting and how they create roles for their children (specifically the golden child and the scapegoat). I don’t think he favored Archie’s brother because he needed help - he favored him because he saw all the good things he liked about himself in him. With Archie, he saw the negative and rejected him. I think Archie became strong because of this mistreatment, rather than the other way around.
@@PegasusBYU You were making good points until you said that Archie was strong. He was an incredibly weak man. If he were strong, he would have seen through the bigoted views he was taught, and dropped them. And he wouldn't have belittled his wife to her face at every opportunity.
@@UncleMikeNJ I think there are many definitions of strong. The one I was referring to was his childhood ability to take such abuse from a parent, not let it crush him and yet still defend his brother.
There’s strength in that.
That's what I miss about tv today is that there are no touching scenes or lessons about what is right and what is wrong anymore!
If I thought it was the last time I'd see a family member I would have watched them walk out.
I can tell you I lost my baby brother at the age of 46 it was the hardest thing I've ever gone through in my father dial 29 years ago also at the age of 46. My mom died in 2014 and my brother passed in 20 24 in my soulmate passed in 2019. Out of all of them my brother was just as hard as any of the other ones. And my mom and my soulmate made me go two pieces for a while and my brother was just as hard
My gosh this makes me cry!
I think Archie‘s father was that bad because quite literally Archie reminded him of himself when he was younger, stubborn opinionated and l quite tough.
Reminds me of my own father - I miss him more than words can say
When I look at this scene now I tear up a bit. In some ways I’m like Archie-when it comes to relationships, keeping things the way they should be, mixing up views into insanity just to fit and calm my psyche. Never knew some of these things came from my father and brother. But Unlike Archie, I can’t half fix things with my father or brother. Both of them died when I was young(er), and oddly they too died at young ages…brother; age 22; car accident. Father; age 66; cancer. I know life isn’t a sitcom but many people get the opportunity to fix things with at least 1 family member before they die. Now I’m 40, alone, trying to fix myself and my life overall into something better.
Therapists aren’t helping because they don’t buy the “you grew up misunderstood.” That maybe you have a right to play a “partial victim”, that it’s “not completely your fault”. This is why I smile and say thank you to many of the comments below. Just from your responses to this clip I know there are people who believe and think like me, that I’m not alone. Maybe people really can be “partial victims” love you guys.
Watching All in the Family now transports me to an intimate playhouse and away from my living room, where the conduit to mediocracy resides.
Carroll O’Conner was an absolute peach.
And now.....the visit from his only living relative! Wow!! I'm
Any idea - did his brother Fred survive his surgery?
He did, and lived long enough to divorce his young wife and mary another
He was actually at George Jefferson's home trying to con him until Florence prevented it all from happening...
Hurt people only hurt other people .😢
Well mostly. However, some people are just wired wrong and come mean straight out of the womb. Psycho serial killers are an example.
Well mostly. However, some people are just wired wrong and come mean straight out of the womb. Psycho serial killers are an example.
I don't think Archie's brother was dying of cancer. I think he was having a serious bypass operation on his heart. Which is also very scary.😢😢
😂
This scene really didn't need that canned laugh track.
It was actually a live studio audience.
@@thomasipkiss8793 Sitcoms back in the day had a 'laugh machine' like a keyboard where a guy would hit certain 'laughs' and pepper each episode with specific laughs.
This episode had such canned laughs.
@@sherbournesubwaymess don’t take my word for it look it up. Why on earth would they include people sniffing and coughing and blowing their nose if it was a canned track? That show was famously one of the first primetime television shows that had an actual studio audience.
@@sherbournesubwaymess No it didn't. All in the Family was, by this time, shown to a live studio audience for live reactions. They even stated it during the closing.
the actor passed away for real in December
Great show so well done.
Caroll O'Connell was one of the BEST actors EVER !!❤😢❤
Poor Archie. Such a sweet man really.