Assassin's Creed Valhalla Patch 1.0.4 - PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S - Has Frame-Rate Improved?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Join Alex Battaglia and John Linneman for a detailed re-test of Assassin's Creed Valhalla running on Xbox Series X, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S. Has performance improved - or degraded - on the next-gen consoles? What does the new Series S performance mode look like? Everything you need to know is here.
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Now we head to the comments, to see what the experts think
Lmao
By experts I’m assuming you mean those pathetic, toxic fanbois.
This comment is the best 😂😂
@@adamjensen2304 I'm sure he is it comes across sarcastic to me 😂
The expert says they dropped the resolution on xsx to increase frame rate, from 1440 to 1188. In other words, they didnt magically find more performance, only a reduction in quality.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that these guys are the reason a lot of game developers are now fixing and perfecting their games post launch. It’s because of their hard work and deep dive videos that they point out bugs in games and even point out embarrassing performance problems sometimes that are then ultimately fixed for US because of THEM. If it wasn’t for them I know we would have a lot of games that we love plagued by problems. Absolutely amazing. Thank you guys!!
or ubisoft just launches garbage optimised gsmes.
Not really. Every single buggisoft game is broken and never gets fixed
true. Before DF we had ps3 games running at 20-25fps and no one even noticed or cared. They educated alot of clueless gamers.
@@hailgod1 If not for DF, they wouldn’t have bothered patching the performance of their “garbage unoptimised games” at launch.
Yup i just took a moment bro done
You guys are working overtime with this patch analysis. We appreciate it.
Well I mean I’m pretty sure they getting payed good
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Slow down, it’s not like they doing this for free.
@@shalawsorchi I’m just appreciating that they’re putting out follow-ups for patches, when they usually just do a one-and-done analysis. They don’t have to do that, so it’s nice that they were willing to give us a detailed analysis.
@@robertisonline12able bro I still can't believe this but, Xbox Series X is the MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE, the keep mentioning.
*Cough* Still Valhalla *Cough*
Its even MORE Bizarre to see the comparison between the 2 consoles, with Dirt 5!!!!
Peace
I think every single game should have 3 games modes:
- Resolution/Image Quality
- Performance
- Resolution/Image Quality Unlocked Frame Rate
The first 2 to offer a choice, the third one to future proof the game
the third option is not possible with current hardware installed in new consoles
@@japanesesamurai4945 Even PS4 have unlocked frame-rate games.
Nah just a 30fps, 60fps and 120fps modes that's it.
*Can't wait for Digital Foundry's videos on Cyberpunk 2077*
@CYVstudio I’m sure Alex will cover the PC version.
Can't wait for Cyberpunk 2077
xbots are shiting bricks right now. It was propably delayed because of xbox having the worst version again.
@@nomeme123 Damn everything was ok til a fanboy came here
@@designer.346 He's probably right tho.
I never thought I would hear the word 720p in a "next-gen" console game. On the other hand, it's an Ubisoft game, so not that surprising.
@Wojciech Wójcik I still can't believe this but, Xbox Series X is the MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE, they keep mentioning.
*Cough* Still Valhalla *Cough*
Its even MORE Bizarre to see the comparison between the 2 consoles, with Dirt 5!!!!
Peace
Series S is a budget console for people with 1080p TVs. Thats pretty obvious. It exists so they can still play new, "next-gen" games, just on a much lower setting.
Its a move to target the "casual audience" that doesn't care, or even understand the whole resolution & FPS debate. Its the same reason why Nvidia and AMD release GPUs that are sold from $300 to $1000+.
@@varno6793 With the exception that PC players always want to play with 60 frames.
@@varno6793 It doesn't matter, the series s existence is trash.
It sucs for people, who wants the FULL POWER of next gen, with no disc, is none existence for them! Unless they stuck with playstation of course, which is a better buy anyway! Lolol
@@tufflucal4037 side question: why do all the fan boys either start or end their comments with "lolol". I'm guessing its to denote their young age and pathetic attempt to laugh past their own sadness?
So in order for the series x to reach a more stable 60fps like the PS5 they downgraded the resolution from 1440p to 1180p. Wtf
Exactly like how is that a win
@Ash Bajaj It is.
@@vitality975 🤷🏾♂️ not to normal people.
@@vitality975 for Sony users having lower Res but more fps was the win always... now its not?
JuSt RePlAcE tHe GpU
Since --it looks like-- Ubisoft listens to DF's input I'd like to politely request DF use their influence for a 60fps mode in Watchdogs Legion.
⚡You have the power!⚡
I'm so thankful for Digital Foundry. Holding developers accountable for the customers and the fans.
They also hold the console marketing teams accountable.
True
That is true
I'm also thankful for all the viewers so problems get a lot of attention and there's more pressure on developers to fix stuff.
@@MichaelBroschek I agree and disagree at the same time. Crunsh is so bad, I dont want to add pressure...
Tldr
ps5: runs the same
XSX: runs better than before but on lower resolution to maintain framerat
Thanks king 🤴
@idkroselle it literally is lmao
Xbox series x is better 🔥
PS5 runs *worse* since this patch, there are literally complaints all over the internet about it!
How is this fake comment getting likes? Y’all are pathetic.
@@KevinAr18 Your are the better troll!
DF needs to create a tool that matches the dynamic resolution with the performance you’re getting. Having a solid % number of how much the game is running at a certain resolution would be interesting to see.
The dev kits show this info but DF dont have dev kits :(
Ok Toy Factory
@@dazza2350 You really thought you did sommat huh
I think it would be hard to create a tool which would reliably find pixel counts in motion when every game is employing TAA which is very effective at hiding edges and fine-grain specular detail, both of which are the only indicators of the actual resolution. Plus effects like motion blur, etc all which can add their own lower resolution artifacts. With pixel counts increasing they'd probably eventually have to turn to some different metric like perceived quality or something which measures the clarity of the scene, but I have no idea how they could measure consistently this across different games and when in motion
@@handle659 isn't the output from the console dynamic though? And didn't they say they counted 1180p, 1440p etc? If it is then yes they can count the resolution after getting the video. You can develop a program which can do that.
Ubisoft is known for having shit optimization. Rainbow Six Siege being the exception.
Doesn't R6S run at like half the resolution?
@@Parker-- Runs between 900p (XB1) and 1080p (PS4). The One X update added the high res textures from PC but without the option to get wider FOV. I am just curious at how the 120fps mode will run on next-gen consoles and if it will include FOV settings.
That game was terrible at launch in terms of optimization and a lot of other things. However the concept of the game is amazing so the game was still addictive during that time. The game was also down a lot too then.
Launch was shit. They turned it around tho. Love that game
r6s runs amazing and it show how the anvil engine can scale from closed small multiplayer to insane openworld and maybe why they should scale back on AC a lil bit lol
Man this damn game can't even run properly on my gaming PC with rtx 3080
Right.. but sony did work with third party developers to get the games to run better. I'm not lying , don't believe? Check out the interviews. But it does makes sense , since they're the weaker console.
@@hi-tych Nah, Assassins Creed Valhalla was optimized for the XSX, do some research.
Get a PS555555555555555555555555555555
@@dickwilsonn9645 have that too but why play on it when I can do 4k 60 ultra
@@christooley9475 'optimized' is different than working with third party developers lol. Optimized is just a next gen buzzword. Do some research.
"Going back to the previous review" harp sound made me laugh. Classic
4:51 "Xbex"
JonTron: "ECKS BECKS!"
XBix
Ecks becks series ecks
eggs becks Series Eggs
I thought I was the only who caught that, lol
Lower resolution on the “more powerful console” sounds really sad.
I can live with 1440p, provided I get 60FPS with Raytraced illumination, shadows and refraction.
You know.
Tflops is not everything.
You can’t just say „this console is better because it has more Tflops“
There is more to it.
However.
I don’t think that at this point in the console lifespan we can tell wich one is better
Right now, both PS5 and Series X still need optimization for them to show their true potential.
In a few years we will be able to tell wich is actually better!
@@r.d.x7403 you're expecting too much. even most modern graphics cards are brought to their knees trying to get 60fps with ray traced global illumination enabled at a resolution higher than 1080p. the consoles are absolutely not going to give you 60fps and all of those settings at once
@@berkan5578 in few years a new version will come out for the consoles.
Well some people included me can't compare between 1080p with 4k, so no prob
So basically Ubisoft optimization is just drop resolution. They really put a lot of effort into it. LOL
@@TheeThunderGod how old are you? Seriously?
@@TheeThunderGod the cpu architecture of ps5 is better...Unified 8 core ccx instead of 2 4 core clusters on xsx
@@TheeThunderGod _"For whatever reason"_
Figuring out that reason, and addressing it, is the devs job. This is not a fix. This is typical Ubisoft laziness. They've already moved on to making DLC and microtransaction content instead of actually fixing issues.
@@budala1969 This is a multiplat game, when every other platform is performing up to standard and one is lagging behind you don't get special treatment. They aren't going to make a specific game for the Series X and optimize is to that extent. When you get Xbox exclusives then you can expect that level of time and dedication, until then you get what you get. Has nothing to do with being lazy.
K.C. A safe bet: if they didnt tell you about the drop in resolution you would say “great optimizing!”. Dropping the resolution is good optimizing, its performance mode, performance DID increase, you would never notice the drop in resolution if not for df, mission accomplished.
4:52 "XBEX"? Alex please don't give Microsoft ideas for naming their next gen consoles ffs!
😂😂😂
😂
Honestly, it would be an improvement given what Microsoft tends to name their consoles.
It's just Eckbock to me now
@@SCMabridged leave the X60 3Box series alone! 😀
Before release 4K 60 on X now it is below 1440p in some scenes. 4K is a marketing tool. A sane person wouldn't expect 4K 60FPS with out dynamic res on these consoles.
Tell that to the fanboys!
But to be honest I'm expecting XSX to be the 4k native machine a PS5 dynamic res.
I have the PS5 and I'm totally ok with dynamic res, if that means getting 60fps!
Hell, 4K 60 is still hard as hell to do on the latest GPUs. While I do expect to see a handful of games running at those settings, they won’t be at the size nor level of detail as Valhalla. Like, I can see GT6 and Forza Motorsport running at 4K 60, for example. Both consoles are super powerful, but that’s just incredibly intensive to render, even on monster PCs.
@@claudiovic88 you still expect series x to be a native 4k60 machine after everything you've seen?
@@claudiovic88 You will mostly see 4K 60FPS in MS games.
Dynamic 4K was always going to be the only way to hit 60fps on consoles that have the power of a 3-4 year old PC.
So...they had to drop the resolution to almost 1080p on the SX to match PS5 performance at 1440p? lol.
Wait till they realize the ps5 doesnt support 1440p🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RideTheGamer it doesn't support 1440p output for PC monitors. That has nothing to do with internal resolution. :D
@@SuperPotato316 you can’t educate these trolls
@@SuperPotato316 That's internal res but it still has to come out externally, so it's Upscaled 4k or downscale to 1080p
Would it be possible to describe PC Equivalent or similar Settings? Thanks!
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In the past it was usually medium settings, I'd be interested to see next gen
Ultra everything
Ultra - very high in 30 fps mode and very high in 60fps
You have to remember that on PC, whatever resolution you pick, you will be playing at that resolution. You pick 4k ? You will game at resolution.
With consoles, its different, might pick Ultra or very high settings, but you won't be playing at 4k all the time. You want 4k resolution? You will get it, but here and there, and it will drop it hard, so this scene you might game at 4k, the next few seconds you might game at 1080p, and for me, that's just not my cup.
If I want to play on 4k, I want for 4k, not 4k whenever the game feels like giving me 4k, and just dropping the resolution all the way down to 1080p.
When DF has developer ads, you know the developers watch these videos as well 😂
@@PrinceOfFALLEN No but they get sponsored by game devs and hardware manufacturers, which makes some of the content questionable. Their 3080 coverage proved this when compared to many other review outlets and the handpicked games by Nvidia.
@@V1CT1MIZED DF is one of the less unbiased channels of RUclips period
@@V1CT1MIZED if I can’t trust DF then who should I watch? Gamer Nexus? No thanks!
@@V1CT1MIZED
Many news outlets have sponsors.
Some will say that they do not, yet they receive free stuff to test.
Most agree that 3080 is a great product(assuming you could get it at around MSRP) , even if they would prefer that it has more VRAM.
For example,they were accused many times by PlayStation fanboys that they were Xbox fanboys, even when they were clearly praising PlayStation 5 be4 it came out.
What do they need to do to prove their neutrality or at the very least, not biasnes?
Alex, as far as I am aware off prefers PC.
Perhaps they all do.
Yet they are also intrigued by consoles.
Digital Foundry isn't perfect.
Far from it perhaps, but they are better than most.
Perhaps even the very best.
@@Tyler-gv6zf what's so bad about gamers nexus
So basically the patch fix that Microsoft announced as an excuse is actually lower resolution so the Xbox s X can keep the same stable frame rates as the PS5?
YES.
Yes 😂
Yes🤣
Lower resolution than the PS5? if so, yikes.
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣
Scaling down to 1180p to maximize framerate at 60fps is a joke on a 12TF console. How much it took to change that in this patch, 2 secs?
I'm assuming you don't have a pc?even a 2080ti can't hit 4k 60
That's true, dude. How this is possibble if Xbox is a powerful console.
Yeah man I expected more. They said early on the the Series X was harder to develop for, so with all the features it has that’s not implemented, when they get it right it should be awesome
To be fair, it's not likely to be the ONLY patch. It is the quickest solution though.
Largely, this seemed to be a patch to fill in the graphics options (perf/quality) and the simple fix to get the XSX/S to run smoothly. Assuming they care (which, they should) there will likely be more fixes on the way, which I would expect to bring that DRS back to more reasonable levels (1440p+ imo)
Phil cry cause works shit on xsx and call to ubi thats all. If on ps5 res be downgraded like on xsx the frame rate be tottally the same.
I am still amazed how Ubibug managed to survive all these years.
Pretty sure cause they make games that people still buy
By making decisions you’re too scared to do 🤣
Just like EA
I stopped buying their games a long time ago. Usually 2nd hand trade ins now. Talking about this game tho, assassin's creed imo fell off after black flag. These new gens is like all other games these days, find better weapons to kill the enemy with higher level health ect
@@De1usionsofGrandeur that's what I find so annoying about them, most of their concepts and games would be great and I would buy them without a second thought, but they are at least to me, never to their true potential
So to summarise the Xbox runs at the same frame rate as the PS5 version but at a lower resolution (1180p). This doesn't sound like a win for the most powerful console in the universe.
@@tukayz254 silly xbot
Oh sorry my mistake, allow me to correct that, the most powerful console in the universe runs 1 -2 frames higher at a lower resolution, great success, Phil was right from the start after all! 😏😏
It's not 1080p it's 1180p as a lowest Res. But now has a more stable frame rate than ps5. Everyone just needs to realise this game engine is shite, it doesn't run well on GPU that coast more than a ps5 and series x combined.
@Jin Sakai, really?
@@yanceyboyz a more stable frame rate is expected at a lower resolution. I would be surprised if it didn't.
So the most powerful console have to drop resolution below 1440p to match the performance of the PS5 version.
And stuttery camera movement.
when it dropped resolution the ps5 dropped 5-9 frames thus they perfrom same where one priortises the other
@@orangepuffy1317 It dropped that many frames on a single cutscene in the beginning of the game. The rest of the game it was 60 fps locked 98% of the time. Still performed much better than Series X in frames, despite having having a higher average resolution and more effects
@@orangepuffy1317
The point is that philly spencer and the Xbox fanboys were talking mad 💩 about the ps5 and how their teraflops makes the series x the most "powerful" console in the world..... lmao. 🤣
@@XxSupernatural21xX same applies for the series x that it held the 1440p mark good for most of the time the time it dropped resolution was in one cutscene where ps5 dropped a lot of frames. There frames were the same but the ps5 lowest was 51 and xsx was 57 but the xsx dropped res for that. Xsx had same performance in frames and res overall and this can be checked in the sheet by nx gamer. Also in the same sheet the PS5 had a lot more torn frames than xsx. This also visible in this video where xsx has a lot less tearing
mark cerny warned everyone that tflops are an absolutely bad way to measure the overall performance of a system
Xbox Series X has to run at a lower resolution than PS5 to maintain the same framerates? What's going on with the Series X? Its CPU and GPU is stronger. DF needs to touch on this more
On paper its stronger. Cpu runs same speed when using smt. Gpu is slower but more cu. Cerny talking diminishing returns on lots of cu vs less and higher speed is starting to come out in real time
Df have no way to measure what percentage of the GPU and CPU are being used on consoles,so there's nothing they can analyze unless developers are the ones that reach out and explain why the xbox series x versions run slightly worse.
I heard Microsoft was 1 year behind with dev kits so it’s basically a patched ps5 version on xsx because they thought the extra horsepower of the xsx should equal it out. This will not be the case with future titles. Again this is what I heard here on RUclips.
I don't understand how this is a hard concept for you people to understand. Teraflops aren't everything, people have been saying teraflops aren't everything forever but people like you don't listen
@@jukins6543 on devil may cry Xbox Series X outperformed PS5 on everything except performance mode. It seems high refresh rates (120fps) or CPU intense games (AC Valhalla with its AI) run worse on Series X, but GPU bound games/modes such as the other modes on devil may cry or the quality mode on black ops cold war runs better on the Series X. So I don't believe it is a GPU issue, it most likely has something to do with the CPU or API.
Also Xbox One had less cu's higher clocks and was behind PS4, lower cu's is worse especially on RDNA 2 where Machine Learning and Raytracing performance depends more on the CU counts.
Ghost of Tsushima game engine is better than Valhalla.
Always has been
Well duh, who said otherwise.
Will GOT get an ps5 update ? I want to pick it up then
@@kravez16 I think it did. It runs at 60 fps now
I mean 2014s assassins creed unity looks better (and runs better on today’s hardware) then valhalla
9:50
I think they removed depth of field on XSS Performance mode. Picture much clearer in the background which not in focus.
wow. Nice catch
So In 60fps mode..... minimum
720p series S
1180p on series X
1440p on PS5
Most powerful console only can handle to 1180p .. such a shame .. talk big and cocky.🙋🙋
@@Loy1477 oh yeah...believe the conspiracy theorist fanboy 😂 "Xbox paid Ubisoft to downgrade Ps5" 😂😂😂
@Jin Sakai if you don't have factual evidence then No point in making a case
If ubisoft has no motivation to patch things, they just lower the resolution 😂 omg ubisoft
...yes?
That's why I'll never buy games from them.
I mean, is that not patching things? Letting the dynamic res drop lower to actually maintain 60fps?
@@ecconike5528 it's speculated that is the reason for the series x performance, but no one besides Ubisoft themselves really knows. All we know for certain is they patched the game to run at a more consistent 60fps, just as people wanted.
@@ecconike5528 I'd missed that, but I just looked it up and it's a pretty generic, vague comment about how they're "working with our partners to resolve issues" and that developers are "just now scratching the surface of what next gen consoles can do". I suppose we'll see how things change/don't change over time
xsx: 'the most powerful console'
acv: let's drop more resolution for you
xss: '1440p console'
acv: 720p, let's go
not the console's fault. Ubisoft is just a pile of shit with unoptimized and lazily polished games.
"not the consoles fault. ubisoft is just a pile of shit" (johnny Estacdo. Former XBOX fanboy, 6 months ago)
I mean those are performance modes right?
@@JohnnyEstacado Dead brain
@@JohnnyEstacado
False marketing
I really appreciate how you guys are always down-to-earth humble but also brute force when it comes to explaining the detail of video games thank you friends!
I'm confused as to why the frame rate is worse during the opening scene on PS5, in pre-patch there's more particles and manages a better 60FPS, whereas after the patch, there's less happening on screen and has trouble locking at 60, makes no sense to me tbh
The game runs the same on ps5 and series x, the diference is that the resolution is higher on ps5
My takeaway:
Post-patch PS5 still has the better version of all 3 next gen consoles, as long as your eyes can tell a marginal higher res 🤷♂️
But the pre-patch PS5 version was the best of both worlds, still high res and a more efficient 60fps count.
So if you are gaming on XBox, definitely update as soon as you can, you will get a lower resolution than before, but in exchange tearing and framerate will be tremendously improved.
PS5 players should stay unpatched until further notice.
I know people will get mad if they release an update exclusively for XBox, but honestly the PS5 version needed virtually no changes 🙄
I'll explain for you , Devs don't optimization at one scene , it's a across the board instance . On bright side it's a cross gen game . In less than 9 months games will look far beyond this launch title .
The "solution" was a lower resolution. What a shame Ubisoft.
So we're not blaming the xbox for this? lmao. The PS5 is fine for some reason.
Yes 720p in crazy on next gen
@@SavantGardeEX i agree .
@@timholloway8821 What did you expect from the series s?
@@SavantGardeEX well, they did get the dev kit months before the got the Series X dev kit... makes a massive difference.
Really glad you all revisited this one. Such a shame that camera stutter isn’t fixed. I was hoping a 30fps mode would disguise it a little.
SSSHHHHH. we don't need the developers even THINKING about capping us at 30fps again.
Pls no more 30 fps. I preder reduce visual rather than going back 30 fps
@@Gkhn32 you clearly are not well educated in this sort of thing. first of all, frame ratios isn't a thing, maybe you're talking about frame rates, and your 1180p argument is dumb as hell, the ps5 and Xbox are more than capable of pushing well beyond 1440 and up to 4k. screen tearing can be fixed just as it has been done with this update. just because you have 60 of PS does not mean you'll get screen tearing. lastly, 30 FPS is ass. there's a reason the entire community has been asking for 60 FPS for the last console generation.
@@andrewc31394 I still can't believe this but, Xbox Series X is the MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE, the keep mentioning.
*Cough* Still Valhalla *Cough*
Its even MORE Bizarre to see the comparison between the 2 consoles, with Dirt 5!!!!
Peace
@@Gkhn32 I still can't believe this but, Xbox Series X is the MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE, the keep mentioning.
*Cough* Still Valhalla *Cough*
Its even MORE Bizarre to see the comparison between the 2 consoles, with Dirt 5!!!!
Peace
When it comes to next-gen consles, apparently Ubisoft developed a complete port for PS5, but for the XSX and XSS they just used the standard Xbox One version and unlcoked the frame rate. The stutter in the camera movement during cutscenes gives it away.
Lower Resolution than in Playstation - OMG! I'm a PC with Playstation Guy, but that makes me so sad for the XBSX Dudes 😬
I hope you are having fun with this "playstation guy" that you got lol
@@Kimera92, lmao. I also want a PlayStation guy that comes with a ps5. Or even better, a PlayStation girl lol.
oh don’t be . it’s not even noticeable , plus Ubisoft has always been the shittiest at optimization . so .
we’ll see how this Rdna 1.5 - 10 teraflop console of yours holds up in 2 years from now 😆 .
Yes man, it is really sad. I'm an owner of xbox series x and tonight I'm not going to sleep because the shame of my console has to lower resolution to run the incredible assassins creed. It is a very worrying situation, I already called my psychologist reporting the situation but he said that the case is very serious, he will not be able to do anything for me. I appreciate your support.
4:52 - Xbeck Series X
Expect Series X
🤣
@Jin Sakai chill
going beck to 1080p
@@atrimus all I said was chill, I’m not the salty one here lol
Thanks for the updated information guys. I’m no dev but it looks to me like rather than optimise and improve the XSX version they have copped out and just lowered to bottom end of the Dynamic res.
While it is lazy, it was probably for the better. Proper optimization would've taken longer - it might be in the works and this could be a temporary fix.
The PS5 has had 6 months more developing time.
The PS5 is maxed out now.
The Xbox series X has lot more power to spare.
And features & benefits what PS5 hasn't got.
It always was 100% guaranteed more updates will come to Xbox series X & S in visuals & Performance.
So far out of thousands of games being tested.
There's 2 or 3 games what have better fps on PS5.
But they will be updated very soon on Xbox series X
@@scottrocks1993 You’re insane if you think PS5 is maxed out at launch by some crossgen Ubisoft game. That’s like saying that AC Black Flag “maxed out” the PS4 when games like TLOU2 and Horizon 2 (next year) run on it with the same performance.
Optimisation will get a lot better on both consoles, not just Series X. And I still haven’t seen any sources confirming this rumour that Ubisoft had 6 months longer to optimise for PS5.
@@scottrocks1993... You might want to look at ps4 launch games vs the end of the generation... Lol its maxed out. Find anything on the Xbox One X at the time it was the most powerful console ever that matches anyting like The Last of Us 2. If you're going to go with gears you should know that the latest gears game actually runs as low as 1080p on the One X the most powerful console at the time.
@@scottrocks1993 sidebar every single cross-gen game so far has ran better on the PlayStation 5 it's not been a few of them it's been every single one that's been tested. The only game that runs at higher frame rate is Call of Duty Warzone and that's because there currently is no PlayStation 5 version the version running on the PlayStation 5 says PlayStation 4 on it. That is the only game so get your fan boy crap out of here and wake up to the facts.
It's cool that they've added a 60 fps mode to the Series S
Serious Sam?
the other is better resolution
@alexander pierre Absolutely not, I have the Series X and S and the performance mode on the Series S really impressed me, it's not all about numbers, the game runs well and the graphics are still beautiful.
@alexander pierre no
@alexander pierre that's ok
Good decision on Ubisofts part to lower the res to have the 60fps constantly.
Game looks great on both consoles, and both consoles are great overall, and that is the important part
@@Marko5097 Both consoles can be great even though other is performing a little better than the other? Differences are pretty minor after all.
1180p is far from great if you're playing on a 4k display.
@@thehoonta5312 So, it's better not to update if you play on PS5?
@@L4veyan Well, you'll have to settle if you want to play with the Xbox series X.
@@souljastation5463 Yeah, fortunately I don't have interest in Xbox.
seriesX can drop to 1188p, what a beast!!!!
12 teraflops
"Optimized for Series X"
4:20 Developers should send DF a copy of their games weeks before release, to get the proper private feedback before looking like amateurs in public.
Don’t make fun of the Xbox make fun of the Ubisoft shitheads who copy and paste games every year.
Ubisoft is historically terrible at optimization, virtually all of their games are released with duct tape holding it together. Wait until Cyberpunk 2077 and then we can see how there is less difference performance-wise between the consoles than Xbox or PlayStation fanboys may think.
It's 2020 and character models still look worse than Unity.
Unity was a very small map compared to the latest games. Unity was barely able to run and only now is capable of 60fps.
If Ubisoft tried to use the same graphics for their games now they wouldn't be able to run.
Besides, they still look great.
@@Ichigo2k9
Witcher 3 has a big ass world , multiple interactable NPCs , and the facial expressions / animations are still better than Valhalla !
@@Zeegoku1007 🤣 I know u lyin
@@Zeegoku1007 idk about witcher 3, but ubisoft has a pretty shit engine that gets disappointing frame rates even on the best PCs (unoptimized as fuck). that is probably a big reason why they tune down detail to achieve the size of the open world. plus you are comparing one of the best developers at packing their games with detail to... well whatever is left of ubisoft
@@Ichigo2k9 If Ubisoft wanted, they could make better character models. The only reason their games wouldn't be able to run is because Ubisoft has never heard the word "optimization" and has no idea what it means
.... So in order for the Xbox series X version to run as smooth as the PlayStation 5 version they had to cut back on the resolution... In my Marlon gaming voice "TOILET FLUSH"
Ubisoft devs are garbage though, and its probably because the sx is using new dev tools that are harder to use at the moment
It's great to see a 60 fps high performance option for Series S and i usually prefer high framerate over resolution but going all the way down to 720p to get there is personally a bit too much for me but nothing wrong with it at all plenty of people will be totally fine with it, for others the Quility mode is there too so it's great to have the choice😁
1188p? These wacky resolutions remind me of late gen cods on x360, they used to get 60fps
damn i want that xbox 360 that was running at 60fps. was like a limited editions hyper clocked console that could do that or what?
@@steelers43paul28 wtf is this comment lol? I've seen a few similar comments recently arguing against the idea that PS3/360 era COD games ran at 60fps. Every COD game since at least COD4 has run at 60fps, including on console. Even ignoring COD, the 360 had plenty of games running at a locked 60fps. What are you talking about?
@@ZeAllMighty1 Actually CoD didn't start running 60fps till BO2
@@ZeAllMighty1 umm.......nope. They ran between 50-60fps and dropped to the late 40s many times in intense scenes.
Um, late gen CODs were around 600-720p in the last consoles.
Again, that 12 tflops ammo, was basically just firing blanks.
Remember this comment when developers are using all of it shortbus
That's not really how it works.
Fanboys are the worst thing to ever happen to gaming. They use rhetoric and hyperbole as a basis for their opinions which they then soapbox at every opportunity. However, what they seem incapable of understanding is that 1) no one cares what they have to say and 2) NO ONE CARES WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY!
I still can't believe that screen tearing is considered acceptable on the next-gen consoles. It's the most immersion-destroying thing that can happen in a game. You're running around in the game's worlds and the screen is literally falling apart. I'd rather have dropped frames, thank you.
The next-gen ports look bad in every way! By far the ugliest ps5 game I've played!!! This is basically an old-gen game with the newer gen logo...
Thanks for taking the time to give us an update guys!
wait wtf so they lowered the resolution on the Series X to make it consistent in fps? Bruh.
It makes no fucking sense right, the Series X has the powerful hardware but its just not delivering like we expected. Im guessing this is where the PS5s 12 channel flash controller comes into play.
Really doesn’t make sense since the series x is like 20 percent stronger.....cmon bruh
The future is now... at 1188p.
xboys screams about native 4k all the time, they don't realise resolution is dynamic
12 tflops beast!
@@redalert3uprisingrtsgamer816 lol what a joke other games are all optimized by ps5
@@redalert3uprisingrtsgamer816 Yeah the 12tflops is coming in very handy so far lol
Where is Lichdom: Battlemag analysis for the new generation?
+1
Oh man how i loved that game lol...i wonder how it would look with RT on... besides the
Now that’s a game I would like to see how it runs on PS5. Now I just gotta find it.
Hm. So for the “most powerful console ever” to run 60 FPS the resolution goes as low as just over 1080p, while the ps5 bottoms out at 1440 p. Am I understanding this correctly ? Xbox not the monster system everyone says? Ps5 not a weak underpowered system the Xperts claim? Interesting! 🤔 thanks DF for clearing this up.
Big Facts. Its clear now
not how it works. the xbox has a new dev kit and devs are only starting to use it. ps5 dev kit is the same as the ps4 one.
But yet the ps5 is dropping more frames
@@XxSprayMilkxX in cut scenes lol...xbox still stutter more tho
@@XxSprayMilkxX I didn’t say the ps5 is better or more powerful, but they are definitely closer in performance than a lot of people were saying it would
They had to lower the resolution on XSX to get stable 60fps, so the PS5 version is still the best overall despite Microsoft paying for the marketing of the game (the same with Dirt 5). The irony.
"The most powerful console ever made."
-Phill Spencer
"IT EATS MONSTER FOR BREAKFAST"
- Fail Spencer
The Xbox Series X has stable 60frame per second rate while the PlayStation 5 suffers from screen tearing and frame rate drops. I think I will choose the stable frame rate.
@@CyberThug1080i John Linneman himself said that the PS5 version is superior in Twitter.
PS5: I never asked for this...
Why? No changes have been made it is running just like before.
@@anonymouslytodays2104 no it's not...and you clearly didn't understand what the person meant...
"we drop to 1080p so the 12Tflop monster feels good about himself" - Ubisoft 2020
@Jin Sakai so you guys are saying digital foundry is lying?
@@anonymouslytodays2104 I don't think they're lying, but I've noticed a huge performance drop. I restarted my PS5 (instead of just rest mode) and that helped a bit, but it's still noticeably worse after the patch.
Game ran fine on my Series X and my C9 OLED with VRR enabled pre-patch. Now it just runs the same but, with lower DRS settings 😞
Yeah it would such a bit with people that had VRR capable sets lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one, I kind of want to just stay on this older patch. While I play most games on PC I'll always take 4K Max at 45-60 on my C9 can't really feel it with G sync and VRR working.
Next gen consoles need to run uncapped at the set resolution if VRR is detected/on
Developers need to port over graphical setting options similar to PC for these consoles. Let me customize my experience to allow my sepcific hardware to maximize it's potential.
@@insertnamehere2624 But this is why PC games always seem less optimised
After the 1.04 patch on PS5, the Wicestre arc is just tearing constantly, the rumbles don’t vibrate when tensing the arch and the force feedback on the charge ability is gone.
so now they lowered the resolution of xbox Series X to 1188p to keep up with ps5,.. well at least it tears less now.
They both run at similar res and yet the ps5 is now dropping more frames and having more tears...looks like the ps5 can't keep up it seems lol 🤷♂️
@@naimhussain6013 That's not true. Before the patch, PS5 was running at slightly higher resolution and with much better performance. After the patch, no real change on the PS5 side, but the Series X performance has improved although it now runs at a significantly lower resolution. PS5 is better in both cases.
@@naimhussain6013 watch the video. They say PS5 is the same as before except one cutscene where it drops for 2 seconds but otherwise it’s a solid 60. It does all this while maintaining 50% more pixels than Xbox
@@naimhussain6013 LOL! They did not lower the resolution of ps5... It's still over 1440p at all times. Xbox on the other hand needs to drop to almost 1080p... What a joke 😂
@@naimhussain6013 xbox needed to downgrade too 1080p to keep up. MuSt PoWeRfUl CoNsOlE!.
Xbox Series X when properly optimized like this patch will shows what its powerful hardware can do ..now both console gamers can enjoy AC Valhalla as its meant to be played very nice work Ubisoft and it will only get better as Xbox kits mature and devs learn how to use them.
Bruh, Xbox is still doing worse, they also downgraded PS5's AC Valhalla and it's still doing better at 50% higher res
@@sai8098 The frame rates are almost a solid 60fps..the solution is a good one .when coders get more familiar with kits for Xbox Series X power will be utilized even more so..you can talk all the crap you want but Xbox Series X has the more powerful hardware over PS5 thats fact ..but we saw the same with Xbox 360 running games better than Ps3 thing is the only reason Xbox series X Games are not optimized is because the development kits went out late 2020 and PS5 Dev kits went out in 2019 so obviously it was a head start in development I'm happy with the fact they got its run 60 frames a second and it actually runs a lot smoother than the PS5 version which is now dropping more frames then Xbox series X in performance mode albeit in a lower resolution still solid 60fps I think it's a win for everybody who wants to play AC Valhalla at 60fps.
@Jason Yuen Just like you think Budda is real.
@@neosrt10 haaaa
Hm... so they didn't exactly optimize the game for Series X, they just throttled back the resolution in some places so it can keep up with PS5?
YES
The Ps5 runs worse now
yeah pretty much
So it can keep up with the PS5? Are you serious?
@@ejs3589 No it dont they just said its no different. I have it on PS5 and nothing is changed
Majority of PC gamers don't even have a rig capable of running next gen titles at 4K 60fps, all this PC vs Console wars is misleading because majority of PC gamers actually game at 1440p or lower
I was gaming at 1440p 144hz 3 years ago. About to get back to PC gaming after my deployment and expecting great things from my LG CX and a new 3080. Especially with the few titles that support DLSS 2.0.
It's a stupid comparison, because there's literally over a billion PC gamers. Given that huge of a demographic, there's millions more people with higher end PCs than the cut-down crappy AMD architecture that is now sub-mid tier as we sit in these consoles.
The APUs in these things can't even hang with a Zen1 from 2017 at 4ghz on all cores, and from what we've seen of the GPUs, and now that we know how the RDNA2 architecture benches on the full blown desktop discrete GPUs at this point--these things aren't even on the level of a 1080Ti (minus the accelerator DXR cores, which suck anyway) or an overclocked 2070s. You're still seeing 30 FPS on these things lol.. they're $500 Fisher-Price toys. A rip off for underpowered closed client hardware
@@tmorelli1982 Not sure what you consider 'higher end', but there are 22 million users on Steam right now. According to Steams data less than 1.5% of them are running a 1080ti and less than 1% a 2080ti. Ampere isn't even worth counting. That makes about 525,000 'high end users' on Steam. PS5 and Series X sold over 4 million 'Fisher-Price toys' in two days. The majority of gamers can't or doesn't want to spend over $2000 on a PC
@@CL4MP You think steam surveys are indicative of PC gaming as a whole? Less than 1% of steam users even opt in to the surveys, and there's millions of gamers that don't even use steam as a marketplace (such as gamers that play blizzard/activation games exclusively etc..). Hell, the only time I've even logged into Steam in the last year is to run 3D benchmarks..
@@CL4MP You legitimately believe that only 525 people on the planet with a steam account have high end PCs?.... Really?
*A useful FYI*
After patching is complete on PS5, start the game once. Then exit. Now reboot your console.
It'll apply the re-built GPU/SSD cache.
Now you'll see benefits of the update on Valhalla. Enjoy.
Errrrrr that's how updates work . Lol .
If the Xbox game cover says “Optimized for Xbox series X” why there would be a patch needed? More importantly PS5 before the pre-patch was hitting close to 59-60 on avg now it seems previously in some scenarios where the frame didn’t drop before now it is dropping.
I think "Optimized for Xbox Series X" is just a BS marketing slogan.
"Optimized for Series X" means that they downgraded the PS5 version of the game so it will looks better on Series X 😂😂😂
Xbox is a joke
Ubisoft.
Why did the PS5 version for DMC5 need a patch? Games get patched all the time, it's no big thing.
@@wssayer : Exactly. That is why I am asking if the game needs a patch they should not write optimized for Xbox cause that means the product you receive is the final version with no changes necessary. Also, in order to hit 60fps now the patch is causing 1188p on xbox series X and S gets 720p. Does it look like Xbox is delivering promises as world’s most powerful console?
Mark Cerny spongebob laughing at Phil after this video
670p on Series S. Well... this certainly brings back my PS3 memories
Its runs @60fps which is what matters
Apart from the FACT lowest is 900p
Must try harder*
@@100500daniel wasn’t higher resolutions a big selling point.
@@100500daniel doesn't matter, anything under 1080p is unacceptable
@@yab3146 you're right but its a cheap console so you can't expect much.
These patches need to come to an end already. Can we just release the game when its actually finished
No we can't cause we need money fast
Thats not how modern game development works.
Its nice to know that your purchase will get better over time. Games are MUCH more complicated then they were in the cartridge era.
Mnr Venter, that’s kinda impossible. Game development is in constant flux, even after launch. There’s always a way to improve a game post-release.
I agree. Its ridiculous, no other form of media is allowed to release in such shoddy states. Imagine if a fucking blockbuster movie released with half finished special effects and you could still see wires and shit. Heads would roll, but in the video game industry it's shocking when games don't release like this.
Okay, I want to see you develop a massive game in 3 years, then spend the last year during a pandemic optimising for 9 platforms, 3 of which are new consoles with new tools. And then take into account that Ubisoft is famous for broken games at launch.
I'm so happy to see all the positive comments, really really appreciate you guys. Thank you for your hard work!
So thanks to sloppy coding and forced unfinished releases, they’re already making the hardware struggle at launch this time. Nice.
I think Ubisoft and the word (Optimization) can't be paired together...
So, in order to hit solid frame rates Xbox is just dropping the res even lower than it had been? That doesn't sound like a good fix. Sounds like a cop out at best.
Definitely, but they had to do something quickly. The launch version was a jittery mess and unpleasant to play on Xbox.
Whenever the resolution is lower on the series x, then there is drops in ps5 and they are drops up to 10 fps
yes but the 12 Tflops does it automatically instead of having to drop the resolution in the game's settings. This generation looks very promissing!
@@thekrustaceox5181 But the PS5's 10 teraflops doesn't have to drop it that much at all. Which is kind of what I'm getting at. Needing to drop res to a hair over 1080p doesn't scream "next gen" to me. Just my opinion though.
@@jrod7929 these are ubisoft titles don't expect anything from these
PS5 WON AGAIN!!
MARK CERNY IS A GOD!
PS5 is amazing
The disciples of Cerny are back out in force again
So their optimization is by sacrificing resolution and shadow quality. What an easy job
Yeah ubisoft really doesnt care much. They just dropped graphics
Even after this patch this game is still full of bugs and IMO def needs A LOT of work so much screen tearing on Series X. I did another stream of this game today and you can clearly see the problems it still has. I am A HUGE AC Fan it's what my Channel is known for but their are still issues that should be fixed!
You dont have a series x. Because this is a lie lol. Or get a better tv 😂
That is just complete bullshit this statement
yeah i think it’s your tv bud 😂 because i literally play this game on my 50 inv 4k 60hz hdr10 tv and i get no screen tearing at all
@@thes3riesman444 i think it’s his tv 😂
I don't have a tv with vrr but it is 4k and after the patch it has not tared
I think that the ps 5 3d audio cores are playing a role why its better.. The cpu and gpu is 100% used while maybe series x used some for the audio
Thats untrue series x has a dedicated chip for audio
12 tflops, worlds most powerful 1188p console 😂
Microsoft never claimed the xbox to be the most powerful console... they said its the most powerful xbox ever... ps bots really seem to stretch everything out of context. also the playstation 5 now drops fps more often than the series x because it can go lower res
@@SweatyFeetGirl bro that's thier whole marketing slogan the worlds most powerful console
@@SweatyFeetGirl they literally market the xsx as the most powerful console in the world
@@SweatyFeetGirl it was marketed as the most powerful console but they recently changed it to the worlds most powerful xbox
@@nss7222 thank you, when it was first announced, they called it the world's most powerful console. Only closer to launch did they change that to "most powerful Xbox"
It's starting to become tragic.
These issues are 100 times worse because the Xbox team have put so much emphasis on "The Worlds Most Powerful Console" it's making them look super silly right now.
All marketing, No substance
So they needed to lower the resolution of the Series X version just to keep up with the PS5?
“Move by Truth” - let me guess, that truth label is just a bunch of crazy conspiracy theories
Makes absolutely no sense, series X has the more powerful hardware but its just not delivering what people expected. Im guessing this were the PS5s 12 channel memory flash controller comes into play. Its just processing data way faster then the series X
@@oggamer1826 religion is fine, conspiracy theories are damaging, and yes, that includes apocalypse theories, lol
@@Jimmyxsx Most likely. It's just a better engeneered system overall. You can tell they've been perfecting it for a lot longer while Microsoft just kinda threw something together.
Yeah, without shadows at some scenes and gameplay!
Damn colt Eastwood lied again, where is the 60% graphical performance increase on the xbox after a patch?
That man is just a scam
Anyone wathcing/following that guy is a clown
@@OVinceDO can't tell if you're trolling or you actually believe that shit.
What’s interesting is ps5 is capped at a higher res of 1440 while xsx lowest is just over 1080p and both are identical in terms of performance that 12tflop didn’t amount to much
CultExcuseWood lied? Oh the humanity!
I never thought Digital Foundry would say that a 570p resolution would be acceptable in 2020. That’s crazy
2020 leaves nothing sacred
Because it's 570p 120FPS on a budget console, are you really that surprised or is this misplaced cope?
@@MrGreatDane2 its still a lower resolutiok than what most Xbox 360/ps3 games were back in 2007. If we get shit visuals with sub 720p resolutions just to get that framerate, i would rather cap the game at 60fpd and thats it
I agree in general that FPS is more important than resolution, but there absolutely is a lower bound resolution that is acceptable and 1080 is it for average. I wouldn’t accept a drop less than 720 and only for a moment.
@@MrGreatDane2 didn't MS marketed it as 1440p/120fps console? Also 570p 120fps is nothing to be proud of. My 5 year old 400$ pc can do 720p 120fps in many less demanding titles like this mobile game looking dirt 5. Also it's not just 570p,the graphics is also much lower than both XSX and PS5. So low graphics 570p@120fps on a "next gen console" is nothing but pathetic.
So in order for the XBSX to get no tears and fps drops they have to lower the dynamic res? 🤔 I THOUGHT XBSX WAS THE MORE POWERFUL CONSOLE!? What happened to all those Terraflops? 😭😭😭
Wasted on unoptimized driver support lol
UBISOFT development blows is what happened.
Console peasants so mad, even a gtx 1050ti can do 720p
Those grown ass xbotsRDX fanboys claim it’s because of the”TOOLS”!!
@@jessesunigajr6282 RIGHT! 😁😁😁
That sweet sweet 720P 60FPS next gen experience. Joking aside, it’s not that bad esp if you still only have a 1080p TV for the Series S
Actually the series S was developed for people who play on 1080p monitors due to a survey data that throws about 76% of a player base that still plays on 1080 p resolution
@@yubayiga8336 no it was made for 1440p with 60-120 fps like spencer said xD.
I think 1080p for the S will be the norm whenever Microsoft comes out with their version of DLSS. Maybe even 1440p.
@@yubayiga8336 Marketing said they were targeting 1440p. But yeah realistically this will be perfect for people with 1080p TV's or monitors. I'm seriously considering one for my home office
I think most people would that get a series X . 720p can look ok on a 1440p monitor too. I used to have to use that resolution at times before i got my 8700k lol
So they just dropped the resolution on XBoxSX
Im just chewing on that....so they had to drop the res....does that mean ps5 still looks better??
nah dog, they optmized the game ! this is why i have no hype for cyberpunk, so many optmizations.......
@@sj460162 It looked a bit better on PS5 before, now it's even more noticeable, but they tweaked the PS5 version, removing some particles and reducing the FPS... All that to not make the Xbox look so bad, shameful.
@@byMyXzx1 unbelievable...seems that the devs have got it in for xbox!
@@byMyXzx1 really????????? Wow
Thank you Ubisoft for adding 60 fps to the Xbox Series S!! I hope more devs give us a 60 fps option.
to see full optimised games for series x and ps5 you need to wait 2021 2022 the developers take full advantage of series x and s 4k 60
1080 60
@@lofi1598 I doubt they will support this game that long. Yes, we will wait 2 to 3 years maybe, but that will reflect in those newer games.
@@xmaverickhunterkx he never mentioned valhalla
@@xmaverickhunterkx i not mean valhala but future games
@@dopeoxide Yeah, but the OP is talking specifically about this game so I thought I would kill any personal hopes the OP may have gained from the comment :p
Sadly, Digital Foundry just lost all credibility with me. If you have a large portion of PS5 players telling you they are absolutely seeing negative impacts from this patch, and all you do is run tests at the same beginning game portions and call it no different. I personally am seeing strange frame-rate dips and stutters that go well below even 30 fps in busy fight scenes in England that absolutely never happened pre patch.
I suggest you actually examine more than a small sample before making a determination, for that is how an objective science based conclusion is made.
I don't know what you would accomplish doing that. If they compared both in multiple scenes what makes it any different in any other scene? If xbox was winning in certain scenes here (60fps no drops in resolution) then im all fot it, but at this point adding any other scenes will just make Xbox look worse.
@Jason Yuen So you expect me to go back and recreate the exact moments I have seen downgraded performance and submit it to DF, yet not expect them to examine multiple scenarios in multiple settings when they literally make a living on doing such examinations?
Ok yeah I'll get right on that Jason
@Jason Yuen oh Jason, so instead of an intelligent response you resort to name calling hidden behind the security and anonymity of a screen. Well done.
You guys need to lead the tech analysis industry by adding a real time resolution counter/reader akin to the FPS counter. That in tandem with the FPS counter would really offer an insight on the performance of each system. Thanks for your hard work guys!
How would they do that considering they usually have to MANUALLY pixel count due to temporal upscaling hiding the resolution so well?
You can only have a real-time view of something that can be automated.
Today we learned: Ubisoft still can't optimize games properly.
It's optimized properly. It even says it's optimized right on the packaging for Series X. And Ubisoft even worked with Microsoft with this game.
@@waycoolscootaloo nah I smell foul play
@@waycoolscootaloo That's their marketing term for saying it has a next-gen patch. Has nothing to do with proper optimisation.
@True Roman you all say the game runs like shit but my literally runs perfect
Working with MS dev libraries, you cannot optimize your way around their “best practices”, short of rewriting their low level calls in Assembler - which would take a couple of years.
Hey John, it's really terrible what you had to deal with on Twitter with regards to an assumed bias you supposedly had towards any particular console. We love your analyses, and appreciate the hard work you and the folks at Digital Foundry do.
Wait he really had to deal with the comparisons on Twitter? Like for real?
Gosh those console war guys, it's just pathetic
@@maxmustermannsviertaccount4977 yep he mad, xbox fanboy where coming at him hard after the comparison.
@@maxmustermannsviertaccount4977 Yeah at first ps fanboys called him Xbox shill. Now Xbox fanboys are messing with him cause ps5 was performing better
Twitter is full of woke maniacs who love to attack people
Fanboys on every sides are so toxic especially on Twitter
You guys didnt mention that quality mode also turns up the settings a bit. Shadows are higher res, mud looks better, clouds definitely look better. Draw distance looks a tad better as well. Snow looks better. Tessellation looks a bit better as well.
They are absolutely having big problems with XSX’s RAM allocation. If XSX must be running lower resolution than PS5 with its more bandwidth,this is a definitive proof of it.
Do you understand words before you use them?
@@pobbityboppity1110 He's got me lost too mate.
@@pobbityboppity1110 yes I do. I am not blaming the console but the devs. It doesn’t make sense that the XSX version running at a lower resolution although has larger bandwidth. This shows a allocation problem.
@@tukayz254 yea and it's off to a rough start for MS
Xbox series X has 17.5% lower resolution now (1188/1440 = 82.5). Kinda ironic, considering some parts are theoretically 20% stronger than PS5.
The PS5 fps dips are mostly on cutscenes, while in actualy gameplay is mostly 60fps
@Andrew now, i fully understand why microsoft was only emphasizing 12teraflops, thanks
Where did you get this information? Would love to look deeper into it.
@Andrew Mark cenry is the man behind all this😎
@Andrew and the cu? Where are they?
@Andrew You forgot Xbox has 44% more GPU units, the most important part of GPU performance
So Xbox series X 1188p vs PS5 1440p ? That's 44%* more pixels for PS5 in that scene, and somehow you didn't feel the need to point that out ? The damage control is getting worse with this Digital foundry. I mean, this has gotten to the point where you don't even want to highlight obvious discrepancies in your comparison videos. I recommend VGtech's comparison which draws proper comparisons without endlessly talking over the data in some misguided and pathetic attempt at damage controlling one console or the other.
that's not accurate actually, the total number of pixels on the screen on Xbox is 2112 * 1188 which is equal to 2509056 pixels, while 1440p has 3686400
pixels in total, we find the percentage difference by doing 100(2509056/3686400) which is equal to 68.0625%, there are nearly 70% more pixels on PS5 than on Series X, and they're performing relatively the same
@@sai8098 Thanks. I will update but you made a mistake. The Xbox is indeed only 70% of the PS5 resolution, which equates to PS5 pushing 44% more pixels in that scene. That said VGtech has seen the series X going as low as 1080p, so if that is the case, we are looking at a gap in resolution of 71% in favor of the PS5.
Imagine running odyssey on 1080/60fps and valhalla on 720p...
ok Alex needs to start saying X,S and 5...instead of their full names 20 times per video
Agreed
"PS5" isn't bad.
Yep 👍
What’s confusing about that is that X could either be One X or Series X and the game runs on both of them.
@@najib9093 oh yeah..ur right
The game has framepacing problems on PC anywhere where there are a few buildings involved like cities or villages. The framerate can be great but there will be a stutter in the same place, panning the camera past the same location in the area. It's almost like Bethesdas engine in for example Downton Boston or Diamond city in that no matter how powerful your rig, it will always show a small stutter in a certain place.
Not on mine
@@NexGenTek I'm glad it's performing well for you, it's a great game! The occasional stutters in mine are a lot like the ones in your AC:Odyssey videos if I were to give an example.
@@plume... The stutters in those videos are due to my camera I saw that at the time of filming and was like wtf. As it was running over 70fps and couldn't feel any frame pacing. I'm using a g sync monitor that could be the difference. Also I play on a 3090/i9 10900k both on water
@@NexGenTek Okay.
@@plume... what are you using to run it
So why is series X still performing worse than PS5 even after the patch? You can’t say that it’s poorly optimized cause it literally got a patch😂 not trying to be a PS fan boy I’m just legitimately curious as to why that is, I’m guessing it’s an API issue at the system level, just goes to show that a higher tflop count doesn’t always translate to higher performance, very interesting
The short and simple answer seems to be that Sony gave developers way more time to optimize games for the PS5 then Microsoft did for the XSX.
@@bluesync1 that’s not the reason why PS5 is outperforming it, a patch was released for these issues which fix some issues like tearing but the series X downscales to 1080p to maintain the higher fps, PS5 never dips under 1440p to keep the same fps count, PS5 is just a better balanced and optimized machine, doesn’t matter how much power you have if it’s not being utilized at its full potential
@@williams1944 That's plausible, I'm no expert on the matter. We'll have to see if that theory holds true when future games are released within the next year. If I had to guess from the information we currently have, it just seems like a matter of developers not having enough time to fully optimize for the system yet. Sony was more prepared.
@@williams1944 series x uses direct x12 it is optimized its the devs
You guys will probably hate me for this but I'm on PS5 and I decided to use the 30fps mode :)
I actually tend to like the way 30fps looks in general, as I think it gives more weight to movement, more impact. Sort of like how audio feels with more bass, in a sense (and the lower frequency does make sense with that I guess). However, I wish they would include camera motion blur. I've been asking for that forever in AC. I never liked the idea of per object motion blur. Motion blur should be about how many pixels each pixel has moved from the last frame, and nothing else. Not specific to objects or camera or whatever else.
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Just ignore Konrad. He has convinced himself in his edgelord world that all that matters is fps...hahahaha so dumb. im with you on the fps to some degree. At 30 fps your brain is fine and it becomes smooth. its only when you are going down from higher framerates that you notice the change.
@@zorastin coming from the guy that probably has a base Xbox lol
@@konrad1101 now now Konrad, ive told you before you dont know what you are talking about. To be honest i have a one x, a series x, and a quite beefy gaming laptop. I have been playing cyberpunk on my gaming laptop with everything maxed out including raytracing on psycho setting and probably averaging between 35- 56 fps and it looks smooth as butter. do some real science and i mean do it properly change you setting so that your favourite games runs at 30 fps.... and play it for at least a day or two, it shouldn't even take that long and if you were being honest and not so outraged and wound up about fps you would find that your brain adjusts and you dont see it. thats how your brain works dummy. i know you wont but you should .
@@zorastin you can keep telling yourself that your brain adjusts lol
1188p... a bit disappointing. I was sold on series x being the most powerful console. After a patch they still couldn’t make it run as good as ps5