THE FIRST BREAKERS WERE BLACK.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- According to GRANDMASTER FLASH the first breakers were BLACK. Flash is disrespected, called liar, said to be taking money and doesn't know what he is talking about. Colon lies about having flyers with early BBoy crews vs Tariq Nasheed. #hiphophistory #hiphopculture #fba
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What's weird is they are trying to claim the culture but they are disrespecting the origins of the culture.
Who are you talking about?
You hear the desperation in the Radical Latino's voice? His voice is cracking.
Spirituals, Ragtime, Jazz, Country, Gospel, Bluegrass, Folk, Rock n Roll, Doo-Wop, Soul, Funk, Disco, Punk, House and of course Rap and Hip Hop---all enjoy well documented African American roots coupled with undeniable Black American influence---whether directly or indirectly..
Latinos -- Puerto Ricans particularly -- please explain how you co-created or co-invented yet another installment in the legacy of Black Musical expression known as Rap and Hip Hop, yet didn't co-create or co-invent any of the elements or ingredients of the 14 or so African American music forms that preceeded it? Or why you were nowhere to be found and absent during the creative and inventive foundation outlining the forms of African American musical expression, brilliance and greatness throughout, or even prior to the previous 14 or so African American music forms that are mentioned above? Yet then, all of a sudden--and out of nowhere, lying latinos and jamaicans slither along and falsely claim latinos and/or puerto ricans and jamaicans co-created and co-invented Rap and Hip Hop 50/50 half n half (which is the evidence-free and utter nonsense being peddled by Dr. Derrick Colon, radical latino, Fat Joe and numerous other un-informed and envious latinos---which are claims that latinos never mentioned, verbalized or asserted during its inception in the early 1970's)---latinos claims of "50/50--half & half co-creation and co-invention just don't add up---it makes no sense and are increasingly coming under heavy scrutiny which is leading to these claims being easily debunked--widespread. Nice try though latinos, puerto ricans and jamaicans.
Make it make sense Latinos
Excellent. It’s tiring listening to these people copy us while saying we’ve created nothing. Can you say, agent?
Name a great Latino rapper besides Bug Pun🧐 And do Jamaicans even rap? Foh!
@@BlamaMan They can't name any because their aren't any.
You're talking about music. I'm talking Hip-Hop CULTURE. Ain't shit Black about it. Rap came later. Hip-hop was already a thing, WITHOUT Rap.
@@randee4550 Oh pleeze.
To this day, so-called puerto ricans are still envious and jealous of the enormous achievement's, accomplishments and successes of Black American history and culture--despite all historical odds.
Puerto ricans would have never pulled-off what Black Americans have demonstrated since we've been here.
Black American history and culture has superceded and eclipsed puerto rican history and culture by a million miles-- without question.
FUN FACT: COLON is also the true surname of Christopher Columbus which is where the words colony/colonial/colonizer stem from
It all connects 😂
@@harrysmith-g8k I have no idea why you are saying this to me. And I don’t get what it is you are saying about Julio and Taki, how that’s different from anything I’ve said. Last, I don’t remember talking to you. Your name is user. Whatever problem you have with me - aight.
@@harrysmith-g8kall the Moors weren’t expelled but their leadership and armies were. Their last stronghold was Grenada. Some Scholars and artisans stayed. Christopher Colon used Moors as navigators and translators on his maiden and subsequent voyages. One of his navigators and lookouts was a Moor named Pedro Alonso Niño on his first and third voyages.
@@harrysmith-g8kYour giving a bullsh*t, Vatican/Jesuit sancitioned version of history which has very little to do with the Moorish Civilization. You myst believe is The Pilgrims, The Founding Fathers, Pocahantas, Manifest Destiny, etc., and every myth a Vatican owned book Publisher has printed.
colon been debunked so many
times it's boring his lies just not
catching on but he believes that
one day it will FBA original crews
dies off totally forgetting about their
offspring that will continue
FBA legacy!
Name the original FBA CREWS for me
What does a crew have to do with the creation of breaking? Are you saying Flash is wrong ? He’s a pioneer is he not?
@@mansamusa2012 Hip-Hop CREWS, are responsible for Hip-Hop. No random nigga, just came around, with cans of paint, starting hitting trains, breaking, and cutting breaks, in The Bronx, and called out "this is Black culture!!"
That's all an FBA fantasy
Never listen to people that are in state of cultural discontinuity as they will attempt to push FBA people into that state. Stay strong and consistent. Pigmeat and Jubalaires provide us cultural continuity as black Americans .
We have no need to go outside of our culture for any element of hip hop. Notice that no other group besides FBA has a pigmeat or a group like the Jubalaires .
The Radical Rican doesn't even know that the term Rapping is at least 85-90 years old😂😂😂
And there you have it!
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Shine & The Titanic rap/toast came out in 1919 😂
How do u explain the "BEATNICKS" the mc at a square dance or how about wolfmanjack rappin on the t v show happydays?Even whitefolk was partying and saying rhymes.
Check Mate ♟️
Hold this L Lie-Tinos
Hold this L Fat Joke a.k.a Fat Joe 😂
As an NYC native who was actually there, this colon character is just *STRAIGHT LYING!!!!!!!* 😍 I grew up during the birth of hip hop culture, *ALLLLLLLLLL 5 ELEMENTS!!!!!!!* #1, my father was an actual Brooklyn DJ who went by DJ Watts from the very start of hip hop, late 60s, early 70s. I remember he had giant speakers all though the house bigger than the doors that he builded himself, so spare me the Jamaican sound system lie. 🙄 As we all know, Brooklyn has the tightest DJ's during the start of hip hop, these are just facts. #2, my uncle, (my father's little brother) my oldest sister & my uncle's bff, who's B-Boy photos are used in Tariq's documentary, was & is a 5%'er & my oldest sister was an Earth, a major & almost most important element of hip hop bcuz they were security & made sure the wrong ppl didn't get in to start problems. I couldn't get out of the house to go play without knowing the mathematics of the day or there was hell to pay from my uncle & my sister. Graffiti was *EVERYWHERE* in NYC in the 70s/80s, I loved watching trains pull into station to see the art of it. Most Hispanic ppl lived in the Bronx & *DID NOTTTTTT FVCK WITH US LIKE THAT BACK THEN!!!!!!! WHY DJ THEY KEEP LEAVING THAT PART OUT OF THEIR FAIRY TALES OF BEING 50/50 WITH HIP HOP!!!!!!* Bottom line, Hispanics/Jamaicans had absolutely *NOTHINGGGG* to do with creating hip hop, *PERIODT!!!!!!!* Not to mention that Hispanics didn't even mess with us like that! They were ty busy trying to be John Travolta on that Saturday Night Fever vibe & kissing 💋 WS azz to be down with them. Now our the clear blue, they did it 50/50? Stop the cap! If I tell you it's bs, you can take that to the bank bcuz *I WAS THERE!!!!!!!* 💯
Peace. I appreciate the comments. That’s one thing people who don’t know anything about DJing or electronics can never understand that EVERYONE made speakers and amps, ham radios, etc in the 50s and 60s (people still do) from kits and schematics plans - not just Jamaicans.
@@AKiEM. EXACTLYYYYYYYY! ❤ your platform, keep it coming, Beloved! The lies will stop bcuz we ain't having none of this! 🤣
thank u 💯
& what makes it so bad is they SNF hero John Travolta
was taught those famous dance moves by Don Campbell
of The Lockers not no Denny Terio 😂💯
@@honeydiva9171nyc but not the bronx. You seen the birth of hip hop on tv. You wasn’t outside in the south Bronx.I’m from the bronx I didn’t see it they way you seen it.
@@TheJayster571 *WTFFFFFFFFFF* are you talking about!!!?? I saw it in *REAL LIFE* bcuz my family participated in it from day one, just in Brooklyn! The Bronx isn't some isolated place that you can't get to from Brooklyn! That a train ride, *STUPID!!!!!!!* Back then & now, Brooklyn was & always will be the *REALEST BOROUGH IN NYC!!!!!! UPTOWN NI99AS WERE SCARED TO GO TO BROOKLYN, SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT WAS POPPING IN BROOKLYN!!!!??? THE BRONX DIDN'T INVENT BLOCK PARTIES WITH DJ'S PLAYING MUSIC! THAT'S A NYC THING, WE "ALLLLLLLLLL" DID THAT! WE WERE EVERYWHERE WITH NO FEAR OF ANYONE!!!!!!!* The Bronx may have been the 1st to organize hip hop exclusively for the youth, but it doesn't belong to the Bronx, it belongs to NYC, period! That's why it's said Hip Hop roots are in NYC! Check out the movie The Warriors, that was a *BROOKLYN GANG* going thru all boroughs to get back to Coney Island, *IN BROOKLYN!!!!!!!* Get it right, son! Brooklyn was *ALWAYSSSSSSSSS 'BOUT IT* all throughout NYC! When we came thru, ni99as fleed, *FACTSSSSSSS!!!!!!!* Hip Hop wasn't exclusive to the Bronx only, it was a 5 borough collaboration! TFFFFF you mean!!? Hip Hop exploded all over NYC, all bringing their own unique art forms to it! Go study, the Bronx DJ's got their *ENTIRE STYLE FROM THE BROOKLYN DJ'S,* straight outta DJ Kool Herc's own mouth, which will be revealed in the documentary! The Bronx doesn't own Hip Hop, get that outta your mind bcuz that's bs! If you weren't there for *from the start,* you're in *NO POSITION* to challenge me on anything! 💯
7:00 Colon even stole that name "foundational" crews. Tariq started the fba foundational black Americans smh Lie Tinos
On point family
All the founders of hip hop agree that latinos got into hip hop later. Just appreciate your contributions, but contributions have nothing to do with creating anything. White artists contributed to early Rock N Roll, but they didn't create it, black people did.
When discussing the origins of hip-hop, the conversation often neglects the racial dynamics of the 70s and 60s in New York City. Hip-hop in New York City emerged from the rivalry between the Black Spades and the Savage Nomads, two opposing gangs. During that time, there were numerous areas that were off-limits.
There was no rivalry between the Nomads and the Spades. The Spade were no match for the Nomads. That’s why the Nomads are still around and the Spades are all on methadone. spades lasted 5 years. nomads still a strong MC crew.
B1 BLACK FBA Revolution Sovereignty👑⚔️🔥. Real & True Foundational HIPP-HOPS 🇺🇲🌾
11:21 Holy Crap!!!😂😂🤣🤣
Zulu KINGS was a bunch of Latinos 😂😂😂
11:42 Those are just Rhymes 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 I keep rewinding that part!
Bro couldn't even rhyme dr Seuss right 💀💀💀
@@AKiEM.ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxgJEMudjnGzOcu9jz-66KPi0s1pMk1N08?si=3W7FGKEMzZKl3nzt
As usual, when they pick it up FBA has moved on to something else. Our culture is constantly evolving and changing. FBA hold your head high, we all we got and need!!
Lol that guy the coloniser is trying to live up to his name and make a claim
Finally we expose a myth
Y'all just face it kelce created the fade and Latinos created breaking 😂 even though we been done it they must have put a patent on it 😕 or something 🤔😂 Its crazy how they wont let us have nothing we made SMH
Eric the Rubber Band Man. Nobody could ever touch him. Not breaking but the Electric Boogie.
#Aqueduct
#PoePark
#EchoPark
#boogiedownbronx
1977 was the year (NY Blackout) afterward you have more Soundsystems more crews and bboys the first generation stop in 1975 the second generation in 1978 and the Puerto Ricans keep it moving from 1977/1978 in to the 80s thats my Opinion on bboys
Jimmy Spencer 's the adventures of Super rhymes .
Are there any videos of any of those black people break dancing.id like to see how blacks used to break dance in the 60s before Puerto Ricans was break dancing I’d like to see the difference.
These PR are sick af frfr
Let it go Colon, black people started hip hop , break dancing and every other element of hip hop, knock it off, you've been debunked a million times, give it up already.
The wanted to be like the Italians but they didnt want them around them .
This is such a waste of time. We all know white Americans/Jews own hip hop, the industry, the trends etc....
Who created it is not as important as who is controlling it
It reminds me of when birdman said "man, I wish I would of patented the Bling Bling phrase.
Black Americans vs all the other ethnic groups about who created hip hop while the white man is sitting back in his chair with his feet on the desk just laughing at all of you go at each other while he decides on what to do with his new found genre.
UMG make $59 billion a year and black communities $0
Puerto Rican communities make $0
So what is anybody fighting for? The battle is already won.
@@Damarcus-wq9jy I put that dollar sign to attract you to come make a comment 😂 appreciate it
@@AKiEM. All love 💪💪💪
I fs with my Puerto Ricans heavy but im really upset that yall cant admit or be truthful about the creation. We been doing this ish. Do a full history of our music and itll clearly show where the creation come from. I ask any of our carribean brothers and sisters to do a side by side slide of our cultures from the 1930s-1971. The truth will set yall free. It will show that yall got the culture from America. And lets be clear....we were already here before yall got here. We were at the top of the charts in America before yall got here. 50/50...Gtfoh
Samething they did we ancient Egypt
All due respect to Flash but when he said Graffiti was NOT part of the culture, he lost me. Ask Kay Slay if Graff is not’part of the culture. It existed before dJing, dancing & MCing but it included in the culture as many Djs qnd dancers tagged and bombed trains as well….
@@sibagiba yup. But I have friends who agree with him too. The weird part is that in his book he was trying to Graff for a while… if I ever get to it I will do a video on the question
If we talk about rhythming latinos didn't start rhythming until the 90s.
This was a good video🤣
All say is capoeira + Africa =breakdance batting
two things looking similar doesnt mean there is a connection
What moves went into the next generation??? Um the chair freeze is done by literally EVERY BBOY till this day! Thanks to Robbie Rob Zulu kings! The head spin ?? Swain from Zulu kings! BBOYs can thank Zulu kings. The sporadic footwork has come back and THAT is Zulu kings!!! The very DNA of the dance has went into this generation.. Dr Colonizer is trippin and was VERY disrespectful in his tone. Dude really has nerve.. but the worst part is all his talking points come from his secret meetings with Willie Estrada and Trac 2. The bottom line with this is .. the old head Latinos is saying “We will NOT be second to niggas”’. I’m tired of people trying to minimize the bboy foundation Zulu imprinted into the culture. This has to stop
Break dancing, graffiti or no dammmmmm.DJ made me like rap
lol i guess when i was spinning on my head it did not couny who really gives a shit
I think both sides are wrong . The way hip hop historians teach hiphop is missing a lot of information. I figured out hip-hop true origin . None of these historians know what hip hop actually means in the right context. Everyone is in a hurry to include themselves and exclude others . New yorkers you have dropped the ball , how do you not know who the original breakers were . Seems like nobody was paying attention when the money came.
The original b boys had to be gang members for 1 because b boying was a better resolution of fighting without violence . Hip hop originally was started to stop gangs from killing each other . Rap MCs and bboys and bgirls came into hip hop to show I can beat you with intelligence and art . This is what made hip hop become iconic. Anytime a people or culture changes from barbaric savagery to using their minds to solve problems it has reached civilized .
Hip hop stood for the civilized as opposed to uncivilized. Hip hop is still young and new york is the home because its the first city to try to battle and resolve conflicts on wax. This is what made those NY mcs ,breakers, graphiti artist, and djs become legendary. The music is secondary to the movement of hip hop. The furious 5,public enemy , and the east coast family were teaching the foundations of hip hop but the music business was killing it . Ll cool j was the epitome of a modern civil mc while tupac was positive and negative
@@TheTrill334 interesting. However, BBoying coming from gangs resolving problems through dance is an extremely popular narrative. Not sure why you think no one’s heard of it. Secondly, competitive dance and music is a tradition that goes waaaaay back in Black American culture. It’s well documented. Thanks for the comment.
@AKiEM. I think the founders of hiphop are actually the children and grandchildren of jazz . Bboy dance or breaking came from the jazz era . We didn't start it, our ancestors created our culture . Without jazz there would be no hiphop.
JUDAH is FIRST
THERE WERE HOUNDREDS OF BREAKING CREWS.
BUT NOT IN 75
I THINK THEM WERE 11 YRS OF AGE
I THINK 777 AND UP.
BECOUSE WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE.
FLASH IS PROUBLY RIGHT.
BUT WHAT HAPPEN
TO ROCCK. WELL ASOCIATION. OR FLOOR MASTERS
INCREDIBLE BKEAKERS.
NY IS HUGE .
NOW WHAT YOU DO SEE IS PUERTO RICAN OUTLAW GANGS ROCKING TO SOUL MUSIC AND THEIR SALSA.
1973 FOOTAGE
SAVAGE SKULLS.
Don't forget about The Black Spades with the 'Spades Dance''/ Breaking in 1970!
who cares what ethncity. Like rakim said it aint where you from its where you at. Black white latino asian is all hip hop
@@lawrencephillips2046 historians, anthropologists,
keep it coming.
its called the truth.
any criticisms for the video bro, nah?
@@AKiEM. the whole video is a joke. You are totally missing the point. You had the nerve to actually accuse me of saying that drink champs hired some people to give flash money. Then you show someone in the back. I never said that.
BREAKING NEWS...... Colon just deleted the video, AGAIN🤣
Dude took down the video again 😂😮
@@DrDerrickColon yes, I use jokes for teaching. you have to admit those Radical Latino clips are funny, right?
Okay, whats the point of your video?
No, I did not accuse you of saying that about Drink Champs. However, you did say, imply or co-sign your musical consultant and others saying Flash got paid to say 'The original Breakers were Black.' Now, I should have screen shot the comments sections. I should have known you would delete all the receipts.
Do you think that might have been Tariq Nasheed in the back?
Grandmaster Flash (a non FBA), and actual PIONEER, makes a claim, then had to pull out a pre written paper, with names he doesn't know, or can't pronounce correctly.
Why was it imperative, for Flash to express that the "original B-Boys were Black"?????
I actually know why though... 😂
This really broke your heart😂😂😂cuz y’all got nowhere to go now #microphonechexk is up next…game over
@@Sleepy24342 LMFAO!!! That shit already got nixed in NYC!! That shit will be only seen, in the chitlain circuit. We already handled that one!!!
Flash mentions 80s crews not 70 and the true bboys know this you don't. We respect flash as a dj but he made a mistake
I know what crews flash mentioned 😂.
The first B-Boys were Black. He wasn’t mistaken when he said that part.
How come everytime someone who was a huge part of the game, tells the truth that doesn't go along with yall narrative, yall say they made a mistake????? Yall said it about Caz, Batch, Crazy Legs and now Flash!! SMFH!
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Question to you who did Kool Herc name B-boy the blacks are Puerto Rican because some body came second now who was it ? 🤔
Bro y'all still got tomales and corn chips. Life ain't so bad. 😂
It’s a shame that this even gotta be a video
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FOOTAGE.
TO ME IT WAS
THE NYRICANS
IF YOU GO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD
THEY WILL TELL YOU THE FIRST TIME THEY SO SOME ONE BREAK IT WAS A NYRICAN.
Then I suggest you watch the videos of Batch, Mister Wiggles and the other Nuyoricans say that the first breakers that they saw were Black Americans !
They said, "Afro americans" were the first they saw breakdancing. Yall fail and get debunk at every turn, and it's easy because it's not your culture
@markgarcia7578 HEY CHICO, TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR OWN CULTURE! IT MAY NOT BE AS ENTERTAINING AS BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE AND THATS O.K., ITS YOURS!! IMAGINE HOW THE WORLD LOOKS AT YOU PEOPLE COSPLAYING US! ITS NOT A GOOD LOOK CHICO!
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Where are all these black breaker videos because the days of bambatta is more or less when breaking started 74 or so but all ui see dancing in these Nambatta videos are Puerto Ricans with afros or did you forget ,..we are part African! Your Break Dance csme from the sub Culture before whichbwas Rock or otherwise known as Uprock ... the breakers have the same Rock sytyle but they call it Top Rock ... Rock dance is the basis of Breaking all yhe moves done before you touch the floor. WE HAVE BEEN ROCKING SINCE THE LATE 60S... YOUR BREAK DANCE AND TERM BURNING CAME FROM ROCK DANCE... YOU DIDNT PULL BREAKING OUT OF A HAT THIS IS THE BASIS OF BREAKING ROCK OR UPROCK ..... YOUR DANCE CAME FROM THE SUB CULTURE BEFORE REMEMBER THAT!!!!
You are very well uninformed. Couple points. Asking for videos from early 70s means you probably grew up in the age of smart phones. You say there are videos of early 70s Afro-Rican breakers - where?
The term ‘burning’ absolutely does not come from ‘rocking’. You probably got that from Papo. ‘Burning’ is/was a nationwide Black American term associated with snapping or the dozens, it goes way back.
Breaking does not come from Rocking. The Get Down, Go Off, Burning and Breaking come out of Black America. ‘Rock’ moves were brought into Breaking later. The foundations of Rock are BA dances to BA music.
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