This is about hip hop CULTURE, not race Colon.
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2023
- Incredibly Derrick Colon claims there in no Black Community in the Bronx after the term "black" supposedly has no relevance.
#hiphophistory #hiphopculture #blackculture 
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Its bout time FBA start gatekeeping our culture! ✊🏿
Puerto Ricans don't see themselves as Black. On their birth certificates it probably says white or Puerto Ricans but not Black. For them Blackness is a costume they can put on whenever they want
So a Black PR is what?
@@MadeRegal We Are PR. Being "Black" is some American bullshit.
@randee4550 Being PR is bullshit, we as Black ppl are the most influential group of ppl on the planet🤭
@@melanatedwarrior3530 Yet y'all been clinging on to Afro Latin rhythms, for 100+ years now, and crying that our sound, instrumentation, and rhythms, is "FBA".
@@randee4550 Those afro latin rhythms are Afro cuban, nothing to do with Puerto Ricans 🤣. They have no influence on our music or culture, the influence has always been one way💯. Instrumentation🤔 .... Are you still spewing that we were influenced by latinos because you used latin percussions ridiculousness again😂😂😂😂😂
It’s nothing i can think of that Latinos has done, they swagg jack us, we don’t copy them or any other group… I can’t name anything
Really nothing?? Wow, that's because blk am created hip hop. But what's the pioneers and founding fathers names?? I've been looking for it but I can't find any. All I see is Caribbean and PR pioneers, but that can't be right. Ya created hip hop, please help me out, what's the names of the FBA that created hip hop??
@@JoseBXNY😂 No Puerto Rican Pioneers at all…. Herc copied us and Grandmaster Flash was born IN AMERICA! Plus he got “Grandmaster” from FBAs …. How can you be a Pioneer of JUNGLE B MUSIC?
Jamaicans and Puerto Rican New Yorkers are envious of FBA and try to claim our creation while despising us.
@@JoseBXNY Start with Disco King Mario. Trixie. Sasha, Cholly Rock. No PR’s Or Jamaicans cocreation Hiphop.
@@cazz1777 they're not hip hop. I had a conversation with Cholly Rock the other day and have him on FB. Cholly was agreeing with everything I was saying, it's was a Jamaican that got his hands on everything hip hop and out it together. DJ Kool Herc, that's why he was crowned as founding father of hip hop. There is no Blk am pioneer, especially not Mario
You can listen to jazz , blues , pop , rock and roll which are all created by blacks and hear traces of hip hop . If you listen to theses others you won’t hear it in their music but they claim they help created it . Everyone wants to lay claim to black American music and we never lay claim to theirs .
So influence means creation?? Just wanna know. And in that case, who was it that created hip hop then??
@@JoseBXNYblack culture.. All the key elements of hip-hop started in the south. In 1930s black Americans were rapping where is the footage of jamicans and Puerto Ricans rapping in the 1930s ?
@@poloststyles2669 Bronx culture. Not one element was created by blk am, you down south people are desperate to find anything that roots back to the south since being shuten up when ya tried to say ya started hip hop. Ya go as far as lying yet ya never knew what hip hop was until the 80s. Plena music was created in 1900 and it's evidence of Rap in Puerto Rico. Rap roots back to west Africa griot traditions, not blk am created. And ya was stripped off of African culture by wyte am until Caribbeans re introduced ya to it. West Africa are direct ancestors of Caribbeans, which is why Puerto Rico adopted the traditions into our culture and plena music, as well as instruments ya used to create blk am genres but that's another story. You're talking about 1930s as if rap roots to that, but it roots back even further. Blk am down south just forget about their African roots due to the wytes that those facts fly over their heads of not get ignored. "All the key elements starts in south" that's false and has been proven a long time ago. All elements are derived into hip hop. We went thru rap, dance roots back to Africa and indigenous culture as well. And again, even in PR we adopted the tradition thru our Bomba music in the 1493. Along with the drums and other instruments. We touched that before blk am did. Graffiti always existed since before cornbread and was already named graffiti by Greeks, that requires a whole other paragraph for the facts, dj turntables can root to whatever at the end of the day, dj Kool Herc was the hip hop DJ that put the culture together. And the music that gets dj'd are being made by instruments that comes from the Caribbeans and wyte culture (European, Ireland ect.) All derived into blk am music genres that was derived into hip hop by Kool Herc. As for the style and slang, growing up together it's only common sense that we had influence on each other as a diverse community till this day. So no, not 1 element was blk am created nor did it come from the south.
@@poloststyles2669 the Bronx created hip hop. There is no blk am pioneer/founding father of hip hop unless it would have been that person to get crowned as founding father rather than Kool Her.
"So influence means creation?? Just wanna know. And in that case, who was it that created hip hop then??" ---@@JoseBXNY
The musical foundation of hip-hop is Funk, Soul, Jazz, and Disco. There is no Salsa, Bomba, Merengue, of som e bullshit knockoff Latin Breakdown in Hip-hop.
Who created mufongo?
The video your looking for is the true saviour response.1.56.07 blackwatch
GATEKEEP OUR FBA CULTURE
Gatekeep that FBA bullshit CULTURE, but stay away from my Hip-Hop CULTURE outsiders
@@randee4550 How is Hip Hop your culture when there's nothing in Hip Hop that comes from your own culture 🤔. Make it make sense tether🤣
@@melanatedwarrior3530 Speak for yourself. You ASSIMILATED to White culture, guy.
It's why you can never name the ALL FBA Hip-Hop CREATOR Crews. You only know white people your had to ASSIMILATE to 😭🤣
@randee4550 You ppl have mastered the art of projection, y'all can't name a single Puerto Rican cultural element, influences, early precursors, or transfers into Hip Hop.
IT'S A WRAP 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@melanatedwarrior3530 Bro. While you assimilated to White CULTURE, later on then, to the Cubans, Puerto Ricans, NY Latins, and Carribeans, we've been showing you every building block, in Hip-Hop CULTURE, that was laid down by us.
This is why you keep asking the same dumb shit over, and over, because you can't name ONE single FBA CREATOR CREW.. NONE of you can. We've shown you, and what y'all do???
Cry!! 😂😭😭😭😭😭
No disrespect....this Colon guy needs to sit down and be a student. He continues to try to tear down who we have always been. You and your family, Colon, just got here, have a seat and watch us do what we do. wWe've been doing hip hop before it was formally known as hip hop. Mariachi is your lane, stay in it.
So, Colon the guy that lived that era should sit down and listen to the outsider?😂😂😂
@@bangswift More people that lived the era and were actual pioneers contradicts his bullshit. And then there's a thing called common sense that prevails no matter where a person is from.
@bangswift Colon keeps talking about 1975 he would have been around 6-8 years old .
@@bangswift Colon was a kid 6-8 years old in that era how the fuck he can give a credible argument .
Like Tupac said every body wants to be us
Spirituals, Ragtime, Jazz, Country, Gospel, Bluegrass, Folk, Rock n Roll, Doo-Wop, Soul, Funk, Disco, Punk, House and of course Rap and Hip Hop---all enjoy well documented African American roots coupled with undeniable Black American influence---whether directly or indirectly..
Latinos -- Puerto Ricans particularly -- please explain how you co-created or co-invented yet another installment in the legacy of Black Musical expression known as Rap and Hip Hop, yet didn't co-create or co-invent any of the elements or ingredients of the 14 or so African American music forms that preceeded it? Or why you were nowhere to be found and absent during the creative and inventive foundation outlining the forms of African American musical expression, brilliance and greatness throughout, or even prior to the previous 14 or so African American music forms that are mentioned above? Yet then, all of a sudden--and out of nowhere, lying latinos and jamaicans slither along and falsely claim latinos and/or puerto ricans and jamaicans co-created and co-invented Rap and Hip Hop 50/50 half n half (which is the evidence-free and utter nonsense being peddled by Dr. Derrick Colon, radical latino, Fat Joe and numerous other un-informed and envious latinos---which are claims that latinos never mentioned, verbalized or asserted during its inception in the early 1970's)---latinos claims of "50/50--half & half co-creation and co-invention just don't add up---it makes no sense and are increasingly coming under heavy scrutiny which is leading to these claims being easily debunked--widespread. Nice try though latinos, puerto ricans and jamaicans.
Make it make sense Latinos
Barry Gordy had the correct analysis he successfully marketed music made by blacks worldwide and he sent his artists to charm school.
Jazzmen did the samething the left no doubt who created that music. The world not just blacks love.
FBA HIP HOP need to do the samething market the culture and let it be known where it came from which is Foundational Black Americans.
Music is a business.
Jamacians didnt immigrate here with no Hip Hop , Funky Music, The Dress Style, The Urban Slang nor Rythmn Talking thats Ebonics not Patios-Patwa--- they pick up on it the samway Elvis picked up on Rock n Roll Elvis attended sanctified meetings at Black Churches , and took that blk style to White Teenagers, he admitted it.
Thats how Jamacians & Puerto Ricans picked on Blk style & music through FBAs.......
Theyre intentionally confusing participation with creation. The Bee Gees picked up on Disco and John Travolta picked up on Soul Train style dances
Subscribed ....hold it down
Dr. Colon obviously your documentary is so ridiculous all you talked bout latino started this but, they y'all haven't like hanging round morans and didn't like our music.
Morans 😂😂😂
Moreno's"
That’s facts these dudes are racist as shit and somebody needs to holla at Herc for him to speak up and but all this bullshit to bed after all the Black community has done for all these Ungreatful anti Black ass holes!
Ooooo 😂
Exactly how you gonna tell a man what to call himself ? By the way I don't understand their need to involve the whole Hispanic diaspora when he should just be speaking on what he reps which is porto Ricans and only porto rekans had the opportunity to be the ONLY Spanish speaking race who were Americans just like the blacks to be present at that particular time the evolution of hip-hop?
THE. MUSIC. 🛑. Dividing. HIP HOP. Everyone is included.
I hope fat Joe realizes that blond hair and blues light skin American black have that also so what you saying you have afro indigenous roots stop bro
colon was right to tell him that they not "Spanish" in fact that's the only thing I can agree with him about
I can see that point - I just think its crazy how Colon lets his guests use the n-word.
Title is wrong it's about the race
So how does it matter if someone’s granny was Spanish or whatever?
@@AKiEM. title says about hip hop culture not race. The race of people make the culture within they can identify food music ....
@@muhammadparham5333 so if a pioneers granny is Spanish it makes the culture ‘part Spanish’ ?
That’s what you are saying?
@@AKiEM. to be a pioneer is to be the first which this hip hop is FBA now if you come from a different culture you CANNOT BE A PIONEER for that culture
Once you abandon your culture and take on someone else culture you can't say I gave birth to your people. No you made a contribution to theirs
Change title
im older and the hoid wasnt to Gloria Gaynor like that…try again Fat Joe
Love all my ppl.. black n brown and tan. Shout out to all the black americans for bringing flavor to basically everything they touch. Shout out to all my puerto ricans that mixed our flavors into the culture 🇵🇷.
There's no Black/Brown /Tan Coalitions" And Puerto Ricans had very little flavors to mix into Foundational Black American Culture" Respectfully as FBA" Is 100% Hip HOP Culture"
@@FBA4LIFE say less...
@@gboogie360 Respectfully" In Standing proudly for my FBA Lineage, Culture, And Our People's greatness, I'll never Feel as if I have to say less.....
@@FBA4LIFE ok, say nomore..
Y'all can keep that we good let cuz enjoy our creations and stop that fake black and brown crap I'm from the Bronx Hispanics were racist asf only some the dark ones came around us
Wait... Mel isn't the first Hip-Hop MC???
Please. Name the first MC for me.
is this comment for a different video? whats going on here?
@@AKiEM. You (or whoever is talking), said Mel isn't the first Hip-Hop MC.
I'll ask for the name of the first MC in Hip-Hop. I need to hear this one!
@@randee4550 you was "there" you already know
Who here, where at the jams, in The Bronx, other than me?
Let's talk. I was there. Were you?
aight, what did I get wrong in the video? lmk
@@AKiEM. Pretty much everything.
It's why I'm gonna ask you to tell me which jams, were you at, back then. I wanna see something..
@@randee4550 Im not here to talk about myself or jump around from topic to topic with yall dudes anymore.
You was "there", then you know who the first MC was - whats the problem?😂
@@AKiEM. I personally know who the first Hip-Hop MC is. You said it's not Melle Mel.
Then who?
@@randee4550 yeah, you was there with the first MC, what are you asking me for - don’t you already know?
What party did they do it first at? Who was with them? Who was on the tables?
But isnt hip hop a race?? It's blk right?? Yeah, the pioneers and founding fathers are blk, i just cant find their names to confirm it. But im sure one of you blk Americans can name one, go ahead ya name them. Lets prove our point
We know none of them are Puerto Rican…. That’s a FACT
I have never in my life heard anyone call HipHop a “race” so I don’t know what you are talking about.
@@idiotu668 from 73-80s during hip-hop development into a culture that will be spread worldwide you mean to tell me that there is not 1 PR pioneer??? Lol
@@AKiEM. blk American down south act like hip hop is a blk only culture right?? Blk only created?? it's a Bronx Culture period.
@@JoseBXNY NAME THEM…. Go Ahead!
and while you search and search, why don’t you show them doing the SAME thing in Puerto Rico! Hurry Up
First off Joe you are black Larino is not a race its a nationality are really were not black were brown
Hip hop NYC culture. Blacks from Crenshaw to mali to zimbabwe to Congo to Atlanta to Chicago had no clue on hip hop birth till nyc shared it hip hop NYC culture domimlnican Puerto Rican Cubans only NYC blacks created hip hop
Complete bullshit you New Yorkers don’t travel and it shows what do you think blacks in the south and Midwest were doing sitting in the house you need to leave New York black around the country was getting busy
Non of this shit was birth in New York exclusively if you traveled you would know that
Tariq nasheed speaking on hip hop is obsurd loo he not from NYC he not 48 to 59 he was not there lol. Following him is. Total embarrassment. He did homework he gets F
Can you explain what Tariq Nasheed has to do with this video?
Microphone Check ✔️ COMING SOON! THAT'S What!
Learn how to read, write and spell.
Colon ain't Anti Black just a little ignorant and a Proud Latin nothing wrong with that 💯 Hip Hop started in NYC regardless of what other regions say 👌🏾
Black people created hip-hop 100% lie-tinos 0%😂
By blacc Americans
@@tremac9621 shut ya goofy mouth
@@realone7405 👈🏾 SMH this goofy can't even spell black too busy hating pro goofy 👌🏾
LEARN YOUR HISTORY it was started in the south and spreader everywhere, including the bronx....everybody over 60 know that the pjuerto ricans copied everything that black people did