@@sybill123ful its usually the people with no capability of being a parent wanting the most amount of kids possible . he doesnt care about being a father , he cares about spreading his seeds as a showcase of his manliness. he didnt even think once how his wish of having 10 kids would take a big toll on his wife's health & body . carrying the baby for 9 months , dealing with all the health issues , moods swing , urinary problems that come with it and pushing a kid out of such small space and then post partum depression is such a torture . NOW IMAGINE DOING THAT 10 FRICCKING TIMES!! he is fine with having her wife deal with this physical , mental, emotional torture for the sake of his ego
Chucking that dog in the water is nuts honestly just straight up shows him trying to put himself in the powerful position who can do what he wants to her
In the episode he actually says he’s glad he knows her while she’s young so he can ‘mould’ her to be the perfect wife for him, I promise I’m not joking
Im a traveler and when i was sixteen i was "grabbed" and when i denied his advances i got punched in the face and i wasn't allowed to go to the police and told to not cause any problems
@@purshas2788 thank you, I am. I left the traveller community a year ago, I go to community college(which I wasn't allowed to do when I was at home, I had to leave school in year 7)and have a part time job doing nails💕
@@pear_win i really love that for you. well done on having the courage to leave and getting out. I’ve been watching the big fat gypsy wedding series for years and the one thing i can’t stand is the grabbing tradition. it takes a lot to leave everything you’ve ever known and you are so brave for doing it. You should be so proud of yourself!
I feel like “respecting a culture” shouldn’t include respecting things like sexism, racism, homophobia or animal abuse even if it’s a part of the culture, but that’s just me
Exactly, to the people who are worried about being offensive, what if we never judged Christian/Catholic culture? The world would be fucked if we let them run rampant, no disgusting ideologies should be allowed to prevail regardless of "culture" culture changes, and luckily so
@@jessica5470 agree. I hope you also include the lgbt community as well, that lot seems to have a lot of s*xual d*gen*rates and pr*dat*rs within its community.
To be fair, this show, as all of TLC reality shows and just reality shows in general, has been criticized for misrepresenting Roma culture. And I remenber this episode in particular being criticized by Romani people as spreading misinformation. Been a long time since i read that tho. So i might be missremenbering
I remember being 'grabbed' at 14 by a 16 year old traveller lad at a holiday park and it's a wild time at 14 to be debating between leaving with someone to go off and settle down or go home and do GCSE's
😬 hope you're okay. Don't know your views on that if you're in the traveler culture, but I imagine its awful anyway BC even the girl in the vid at first said 'its not nice'
I know travellers and one of the things that pisses me off the most is that the women will be dressed to the nines in expensive outfits and then their husbands will just be dressed in a t shirt and jeans to go to a wedding 😐
The outfits at weddings are so ridiculous and most of the women and girls are in white not just the bride and bridesmaids. The men are getting drunk at the bar. There are middle-aged women in bodycon dresses consisting of basically a white corset top attached to a white skirt and white lace sleeves. The bride and bridesmaids are caked with makeup to look much older. There was one video where the bride looked 12 from behind because of the size of her head compared to her body as if she hadn't finished growing. Her bridesmaids did wear nice dresses, though with kneelength full skirts and sleeves to just above the elbows.
Omg. When i saw him chuck that dog, i teared up. Had to pause it. Infuriated. How could my big fat gyspy wedding actually film that? Thats animal abuse! That crew is as sickening as the kid who actually did threw the dog. Now ive seen the end, idk how he didnt end behind bars for life. He tried to rob that mother, then threatened hed hurt her toddler and attempted to kidnap it. How hes got a pub is beyond me
And the way he laughed at her being so upset about her poor doggie. And laughed about throwing the dogs. Thats serial killer shit. Thats physcopath shit. Like seriously , thats a fucking sign/symptom
The crew isn't sick. They're doing their job. You can't work on a documentary type show and let your own feelings intervene. The job is to observe and get it on camera.
@@plumdutchess well idk about that, if they're filming a hungry child and they ask how much that child has had to eat that week but they don't give them anything and then go back to their comfy hotel i'd say that is cruel. There are boundaries, and the truth is they just don't care enough to stop it
I remember being 9/10 and finding my family friends butterfly vagazzle sticker pack in her room when we stayed over. I asked both of them if I could get one cause it was pretty, where they proceeded to laugh at me. Btw I had no idea what a vagazzle was I just saw diamonds 😭
Honestly it’s a shame the girls spend a lot of their childhood just being taught how to clean and look after babies and they’re not encouraged to pursue hobbies or careers
I used to love watching my big fat gypsy wedding as a teen but now it actually just makes me sad. basically all the scenarios were really concerning and with such young people too just like this. weird af.
Same! When I started watching, I was either the same age as them or maybe a year or two older but now I just see a bunch of little kids😔 I feel bad it usually doesn’t end up well either
@@mushyluvr4206 and he did go to jail for 2.5 years. Longevity in a marriage is no sign of the health of a marriage, if there is a culture of ostracization of unmarried women.
The crazy thing is, gypsies in my country mostly start families at around 14years old. It's 'normal' that they have around 8 children. I am always shocked when an 18 year old girl tells me she already has two kids 😭 Sometimes the guys don't even ask the girl if they want to marry, but go to the dads to ask them and then the dads tell them that they are getting married, it's insane
Just throwing it out there that the whole "asking the father's permission" before proposing thing really is not at all far removed from these guys asking to take ownership of the daughter. Both are just vestiges of the idea that women are the property of men in their life, and I think both need to be seriously challenged
I agree, though asking the father for marriage to me seems just as tradition. Though personally, I'd ask both parents rather than just the father. It makes sense to me anyway because what if the person asking isn't the right type of crowd for the daughter, or what if the person asking is doing it for personal gain? Though I do understand the whole "man's property thing," it can also just show respect to the parents.
It's mostly just a tradition and it's supposed to be symbolic, but yes, you are somewhat correct. It was originally used as actual ownership in a very loose form, as a woman's job was traditionally to serve her family and then her husband once she'd "decided" to make her own family.
I actually agree with this take. My father is no longer with us, but if any boyfriend of mine thought he had to ask his or anyone else's permission to propose to me, he'd be kicked to the kerb. My opinion is the only one that matters - my dad has nothing to do with it! I actually have the same opinion about being walked down the aisle - that stems from literally 'being given away' by your father to your husband i.e. "She was my property and now she's yours." Again, he's not here to do so but even if he were I wouldn't want my dad to walk me down the aisle, no matter how 'traditional' it is.
@HerHollyness That's your decision to make. Personally, I'd like a semi traditional wedding. Course I'd be the groom, but I'd prefer to ask my partners mother of father for their acceptance of my marriage to their son or daughter. The same goes for a wedding. It can be very loose and modern, but some things in tact (i.e., wedding march, suits and dresses, white wedding cake) all in all it's all up to the two parties marrying to make a decision of their wedding.
thats because 90% of "traveller culture" is just old fashioned uk culture, especially chav/ned culture, like guys aggressively hitting on women, having mysoginistic views, having massive families, downplaying and tolerating abusive husbands. go back to the 90s and you'll see folk like this everywhere.
We just took a puppy that was going to go to a gypsy site. She is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and Im so happy she's going to have the best life ever. ❤
I went on a weird obsessive binge on this show a few months ago like we do on old TV programs occasionally and I was genuinely so shocked at the culture around marriage/what is expected of the girls from such a young age.. Whilst the boys are fucking about, the teenage girls going on their 'last night of freedom' on their 16th birthdays with their friends. Like tf? There was one where you could just tell if these 2 girls came from a different culture they'd be travelling the world together as best friends for a long time, instead she basically had a goodbye trip with her, AT FIFTEEN
Yeah Grabbing was a big thing in the show, its basically assault to end up in a shotgun wedding. Because the girls are blamed if it is seen as having ruined her.
2:03 This type of behavior is so disturbing! And I say that as someone that's experienced it, while also being a guy. And I imagine it's way worse for girls.
Thank you for giving me faith in the young community. You are very insightful and it's good to see that in young people. I hope you have a wonderful future in videography!
Even more shocking than this. There is an episode where the girl was gifted a cat by her fiancee. She dead serious said she hates cats, asked can you eat cats. She was serious.
Nowadays a lot of gypsy couples ‘runaway’ to ensure they’re allowed to marry because they will have spent the night alone together without any supervision so to save face they’re allowed to marry
Use to watch this on tlc when I was a teen. And what those kids and mothers had to go through use to scare me. I was only a couple years younger than them. Is this real life, outrageous!
The “grabbing” thing is a tradition at traveller weddings; the boys set their sights on someone and try to grab them thru the evening while the girls try to escape. It’s definitely unpleasant but nobody in the community would be shocked by their “how we met” story
I was engaged by 13 so i ran away to england i am now the happiest ive been with a guy that respects me and a gypsy family (thats nothing to do with my family) took me in and they love both me and my partner
American here, so this traveler thing is completely unfamiliar to me. All I know is that he threw that dog into a body of water. He was dead to me after that.
In the late 2010s an Irish traveler family was famous in NZ - they were here on holiday and within a week had the entire country mad at them. They were filmed taking over a picnic area, insulting locals, leaving trash everywhere and trashing their motel rooms. Running scams as they moved about, intimidating people. There were even warnings in the media that they were going to another town. They were deported.
There is no way, I repeat NO FUCKING WAY, he isn't throwing your kids into the river whenever he gets annoyed with them. But I'm sure that will never happen.
7:08 OMG! But also this is why I love dogs the most! They forgive you even if you are a piece of 💩 and the doggo seemed very proud with the big ass stick ❤
I'm 20 next month and I still think I'm a good decade away from even considering it. I love my boyfriend to bits but until you're 25 your brain literally isn't done developing, so I think I'm gonna wait until then to really wonder about it. The thought of a 15 year old getting married is absolutely mental to me
That grabbing shit they do is a proper madness 😮 if anyone else done that sort of madness then they would be getting arrested an sent to prison for sexual assault for real
I'm only up to the part where you're talking about John's family but if you haven't already Google his sister Josie, her and some other family members including the mam actually went to prison/got put.on tag for beating up a pregnant lass and I believe one with learning difficulties from their community. There is another episode with Josie Blinging up a tag she has to wear with gems!! I'd love to see you react to more of these, maybe Sam and Patrick's wedding as she wasnt a traveller but he was but she did everything the gypsy way for their wedding. I think I may have invested too much time in this show 😂😂😂. Lots of love Cam from county Durham xxx Edit didn't realise the blinded up tag was this episode 😂😂 xxx
Sam and patrick are no longer together she now is married to a country boy and has another child, cheyenne and john are still together with 4 daughters
This is gypsy life is so different to ours . Girls marry at the age of 15 & don't go to highschool they finish school at age 10. The boys finish school at the age of 10/11 & go straight into work.
18:01 hey cam I’m a traveler but it’s the sad truth about the culture is that woman will get called “dirty” for being with men before hand even some people don’t like when you date someone without intentions of getting married,(fun fact travellers sometimes get nicknames for random stuff I actually have an uncle nicknamed grease because he likes elvis and the grease movies or even my granddad is called small John because he was short)
"I've just finished watching 'My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding,' and I can't help but feel a mix of emotions. On one hand, the extravagance of the ceremonies and the strong sense of community among the Romani people is truly fascinating. The vibrant colors, the elaborate dresses, and the cultural traditions displayed are nothing short of mesmerizing. It's a colorful celebration of love and family that really stands out in a world where weddings can often seem standardized. However, as I reflect deeper, I can't shake the sense of brutality that accompanies some of the portrayals. While I appreciate the cultural aspects, the show also highlights some uncomfortable truths about tradition and gender roles within these communities. The pressure on young women to conform to certain ideals, particularly regarding their appearances and the expectations placed upon them for marriage, is quite alarming. It raises questions about autonomy, personal choice, and the sacrifices faced by these individuals in the name of tradition. Moreover, the way the series sometimes sensationalizes these practices can lead to harmful stereotypes. It's crucial for viewers to approach this content with a critical lens, recognizing the complexities and nuances of Romani culture that the show might overlook or oversimplify. In a broader sense, the reality show format often thrives on exaggerating certain traits for entertainment, which can perpetuate misunderstandings about the community as a whole. I believe it’s vital to engage in conversations around representation and to seek authentic voices from within the Romani community. Ultimately, this show has opened my eyes to the rich tapestry of traditions while also prompting critical discussions about cultural practices and societal expectations. It’s a reminder that behind the glitz and glamour, there are real stories, real struggles, and a real need for understanding and respect. Let’s hope that through dialogue, we can appreciate the beauty of the culture while also advocating for positive change.”
I live In The us and am not a traveler. But my dad use to tell me I was his property and he owned me. He’s a disgusting pig to me. I no longer talk to him. I’m 27 😂
Normally Cam Reacts is so funny but MBFGW is just disgusting. John doing that to the dog shows he has control issues and would likely do that to her. 'grabbing' is assault in any other area of society.
As someone who has taught in a primary school which was for Romanian Gypsy children, I must tell you that Travellers are given a VERY bad reputation by shows like this. I taught Year 5 (ages 9-10), and they were the sweetest children I think I’ve ever met. They had so much love to give. Yes, the things about gender roles and young marriage/childbirth are very real, and SOME had problems with violence, however, so many of the children just needed guidance, love and support. I bonded so well with all of them, we were all crying when I left. They just needed gentle instruction and I was honestly honoured to have them as my first class as a teacher. They don’t deserve the horrible stereotypes pushed onto them, they just needed powerful role models. They were the most adorable children, many didn’t speak English as a first language and were well below the “UK Average” in terms of reading and writing. However, when the right materials were given, they THRIVED!! They’re not “dirty”, “violent” or “weird”, they just needed some love.❤
Sooo, I agree with parts of your reaction, but I feel like describing “Grabbing” as weird rather than acknowledging that it’s sexual assault is an under reaction. Culturally it’s even more problematic because girls are devalued in this context if they’ve been alone with a boy. She’s making the best of it, but she can’t leave this guy who then throws her dog in a river. He was evil when he cornered her and ruined her reputation.
I think it’s fair to say that the Gypsy life would not be for me. No grabbing, no ownership, no leaving school early to keep house and breed and definitely no pet flinging. It would be better to be single and at peace than deal with that craziness.
This episode made me super uncomfortable. I’ve never heard of the traveller lifestyle before and I don’t know what it’s like in other aspects but a lot of what was shone here was pretty off putting. Abuse, objectification, assault, marrying off literal children, sexism, misogyny? that all seems really toxic and nasty to me and I don’t know if I could "respect the culture" to excuse that sort of stuff. It takes away someone’s humanity and agency.
Same happened between Neanderthall women. "Well, I got a concussion and he did drag me by my hair into his cave but it's culture and I've got chosen. Look at Ooga-mooga with her fully functioning brain and still a spinster at 18 😳🙄"
Latest point that I would have never spoken a word to him again is when he throws the dog in the water. Like wtf. It’s all fun and games until there is animal abuse. And literally you can’t tell me that he wouldn’t go abusive towards her too one day. This is all soooo goddamn wrong. Goodness I could literally write an entire roman about the rage that I am feeling right now towards these kind of people and their so called “culture“. It’s a cult y‘all please understand that…
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This episode genuinely made my jaw hit the floor, had to pause it after about 3 different parts
Was so obsessed with this show
I love your vibe when I am bored I watch you and I am instantly be entertained
Please react to Derry girls 💚
@@sarahella6474 I second this!
Can you do a follow up Cam
All i can see when he throws the dog, is him letting him know what he's capable and willing to doing to her.
Google his name he and his sister attacked a pregnant woman and he assaulted an Indian woman with a kid for her gold
Or his kids
to think he wants 10-11 kids 😭
And she’s acting like he’s throwing a hand bag rather than something that’s alive…
@@sybill123ful its usually the people with no capability of being a parent wanting the most amount of kids possible . he doesnt care about being a father , he cares about spreading his seeds as a showcase of his manliness. he didnt even think once how his wish of having 10 kids would take a big toll on his wife's health & body .
carrying the baby for 9 months , dealing with all the health issues , moods swing , urinary problems that come with it and pushing a kid out of such small space and then post partum depression is such a torture . NOW IMAGINE DOING THAT 10 FRICCKING TIMES!! he is fine with having her wife deal with this physical , mental, emotional torture for the sake of his ego
Chucking that dog in the water is nuts honestly just straight up shows him trying to put himself in the powerful position who can do what he wants to her
power with no empathy
e@@thewizard555 control power n no empathy are some of the diagnostic criteria of a psychopath
this time its her dog next time it will be her dead body
In the episode he actually says he’s glad he knows her while she’s young so he can ‘mould’ her to be the perfect wife for him, I promise I’m not joking
Im a traveler and when i was sixteen i was "grabbed" and when i denied his advances i got punched in the face and i wasn't allowed to go to the police and told to not cause any problems
I hope you've been able to talk about it with someone sane who understands what happened to you was completely wrong
God I am sorry this happened to you! I hope you're ok and living a great life.
My god. that’s horrific. I hope you are doing okay now
@@purshas2788 thank you, I am. I left the traveller community a year ago, I go to community college(which I wasn't allowed to do when I was at home, I had to leave school in year 7)and have a part time job doing nails💕
@@pear_win i really love that for you. well done on having the courage to leave and getting out. I’ve been watching the big fat gypsy wedding series for years and the one thing i can’t stand is the grabbing tradition. it takes a lot to leave everything you’ve ever known and you are so brave for doing it. You should be so proud of yourself!
I feel like “respecting a culture” shouldn’t include respecting things like sexism, racism, homophobia or animal abuse even if it’s a part of the culture, but that’s just me
exactly. its giving anthropologist: 'we can't intervene. we must observe in their natural habitat.'
Exactly, to the people who are worried about being offensive, what if we never judged Christian/Catholic culture? The world would be fucked if we let them run rampant, no disgusting ideologies should be allowed to prevail regardless of "culture" culture changes, and luckily so
@@jessica5470 agree. I hope you also include the lgbt community as well, that lot seems to have a lot of s*xual d*gen*rates and pr*dat*rs within its community.
@@jessica5470yea tell that to Maga people.
To be fair, this show, as all of TLC reality shows and just reality shows in general, has been criticized for misrepresenting Roma culture. And I remenber this episode in particular being criticized by Romani people as spreading misinformation. Been a long time since i read that tho. So i might be missremenbering
This show was just a bunch of underage girls getting married and the producers were like "eh nothing weird here" 😭
True
I mean you can get married at 16 with parental consent. The age of consent is also 16. So underage maybe isn’t the right word.😊
I remember being 'grabbed' at 14 by a 16 year old traveller lad at a holiday park and it's a wild time at 14 to be debating between leaving with someone to go off and settle down or go home and do GCSE's
😬 hope you're okay. Don't know your views on that if you're in the traveler culture, but I imagine its awful anyway BC even the girl in the vid at first said 'its not nice'
I got grabbed once by a traveller lad and screamed for somebody to help me. his dad was near and immediately helped me and brought me to my mam.
You do know they are not real gypsies right🙄
There's culture and then there's law. I'm not respecting something that can cause trauma.
I know travellers and one of the things that pisses me off the most is that the women will be dressed to the nines in expensive outfits and then their husbands will just be dressed in a t shirt and jeans to go to a wedding 😐
The outfits at weddings are so ridiculous and most of the women and girls are in white not just the bride and bridesmaids. The men are getting drunk at the bar. There are middle-aged women in bodycon dresses consisting of basically a white corset top attached to a white skirt and white lace sleeves. The bride and bridesmaids are caked with makeup to look much older. There was one video where the bride looked 12 from behind because of the size of her head compared to her body as if she hadn't finished growing. Her bridesmaids did wear nice dresses, though with kneelength full skirts and sleeves to just above the elbows.
Omg. When i saw him chuck that dog, i teared up. Had to pause it. Infuriated. How could my big fat gyspy wedding actually film that? Thats animal abuse! That crew is as sickening as the kid who actually did threw the dog.
Now ive seen the end, idk how he didnt end behind bars for life. He tried to rob that mother, then threatened hed hurt her toddler and attempted to kidnap it. How hes got a pub is beyond me
And the way he laughed at her being so upset about her poor doggie. And laughed about throwing the dogs. Thats serial killer shit. Thats physcopath shit. Like seriously , thats a fucking sign/symptom
The crew isn't sick. They're doing their job. You can't work on a documentary type show and let your own feelings intervene. The job is to observe and get it on camera.
@@plumdutchess well idk about that, if they're filming a hungry child and they ask how much that child has had to eat that week but they don't give them anything and then go back to their comfy hotel i'd say that is cruel. There are boundaries, and the truth is they just don't care enough to stop it
@@plumdutchessThis isn’t a nature documentary, they absolutely DO have duty of care
As you eat your sausage sarnie....
Man said VAGAZZLE instead of bedazzle!!! 😂😂😂
I was literally about to comment that! Made me laugh so much 🤣 I hope he googles vagazzle.
I’m sure I can remember like 10 years ago Poundland used to sell vagazzle kits😭
@@Seiko__o-sounds about right for poundland
No your mistaken he meant what he said.Duh.
I remember being 9/10 and finding my family friends butterfly vagazzle sticker pack in her room when we stayed over. I asked both of them if I could get one cause it was pretty, where they proceeded to laugh at me. Btw I had no idea what a vagazzle was I just saw diamonds 😭
Honestly it’s a shame the girls spend a lot of their childhood just being taught how to clean and look after babies and they’re not encouraged to pursue hobbies or careers
Yep,that was my childhood and if you don't want to do that then you get called a whore
I used to love watching my big fat gypsy wedding as a teen but now it actually just makes me sad. basically all the scenarios were really concerning and with such young people too just like this. weird af.
Same! When I started watching, I was either the same age as them or maybe a year or two older but now I just see a bunch of little kids😔 I feel bad it usually doesn’t end up well either
I specifically remember there was 1 girl that didn't want to be a traditional bride. Her mother was so angry about it!
Well, and there’s a lot of inbreeding
That boy should be behind bars.
Pretty sure it will happen.
@@lizcollinson2692 he was theres a few news articles about the cast - Cheyanne and her husband are still together btw lol
@@mushyluvr4206 and he did go to jail for 2.5 years.
Longevity in a marriage is no sign of the health of a marriage, if there is a culture of ostracization of unmarried women.
@@lizcollinson2692 definitely agree with you, i was just surprised as most of the marriages have broken down since the show
Okay but getting “grabbed” is just sexual assault.
Don’t downplay it.
Lol no it's not
Cheyenne seems like such a nice person, I’m hoping things worked out for her in whatever way is best.
They are still together with 4children❤
I dont think sa of a child and then owning a child bride should be a protected part of any culture
Well, and inbreeding, there’s a lot in the travelers/gypsy community/culture
i need a cam kirkham reacts to say yes to the dress omg
That would be awesome!
omg please
TLC in general is honestly just a gold when it comes to react content
Or don't tell the bride!
That and What Not to Wear omg
The crazy thing is, gypsies in my country mostly start families at around 14years old. It's 'normal' that they have around 8 children. I am always shocked when an 18 year old girl tells me she already has two kids 😭 Sometimes the guys don't even ask the girl if they want to marry, but go to the dads to ask them and then the dads tell them that they are getting married, it's insane
bro wants 10-11 kids but throws a dog in the water when it’s bothering him 💀 actual psychopath shit
That’s a good point. What’s stopping him from treating his own kids the same way?
Just throwing it out there that the whole "asking the father's permission" before proposing thing really is not at all far removed from these guys asking to take ownership of the daughter. Both are just vestiges of the idea that women are the property of men in their life, and I think both need to be seriously challenged
I agree, though asking the father for marriage to me seems just as tradition.
Though personally, I'd ask both parents rather than just the father. It makes sense to me anyway because what if the person asking isn't the right type of crowd for the daughter, or what if the person asking is doing it for personal gain?
Though I do understand the whole "man's property thing," it can also just show respect to the parents.
It's mostly just a tradition and it's supposed to be symbolic, but yes, you are somewhat correct.
It was originally used as actual ownership in a very loose form, as a woman's job was traditionally to serve her family and then her husband once she'd "decided" to make her own family.
I actually agree with this take. My father is no longer with us, but if any boyfriend of mine thought he had to ask his or anyone else's permission to propose to me, he'd be kicked to the kerb. My opinion is the only one that matters - my dad has nothing to do with it! I actually have the same opinion about being walked down the aisle - that stems from literally 'being given away' by your father to your husband i.e. "She was my property and now she's yours." Again, he's not here to do so but even if he were I wouldn't want my dad to walk me down the aisle, no matter how 'traditional' it is.
@HerHollyness That's your decision to make. Personally, I'd like a semi traditional wedding. Course I'd be the groom, but I'd prefer to ask my partners mother of father for their acceptance of my marriage to their son or daughter. The same goes for a wedding. It can be very loose and modern, but some things in tact (i.e., wedding march, suits and dresses, white wedding cake) all in all it's all up to the two parties marrying to make a decision of their wedding.
thats because 90% of "traveller culture" is just old fashioned uk culture, especially chav/ned culture, like guys aggressively hitting on women, having mysoginistic views, having massive families, downplaying and tolerating abusive husbands. go back to the 90s and you'll see folk like this everywhere.
Josie and her sisters ended up jumping a legally blind, pregnant lady and whilst kicking her saying "I will kick the baby out of you"
Elaborate please
We just took a puppy that was going to go to a gypsy site. She is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and Im so happy she's going to have the best life ever. ❤
Just “grab” a person up and don’t give them a choice in the matter.
Ah that’s worrying.
I went on a weird obsessive binge on this show a few months ago like we do on old TV programs occasionally and I was genuinely so shocked at the culture around marriage/what is expected of the girls from such a young age.. Whilst the boys are fucking about, the teenage girls going on their 'last night of freedom' on their 16th birthdays with their friends. Like tf?
There was one where you could just tell if these 2 girls came from a different culture they'd be travelling the world together as best friends for a long time, instead she basically had a goodbye trip with her, AT FIFTEEN
Hello you gorgeous donuts, let me know if there’s any other TV shows you’d like a full breakdown of x
you should do one of those stupid my story animated they are shockingg
You should watch Don't tell the bride. Some of the episodes of it were absolutely crazy!
Milf manor is back with a season 2!!
You should watch the American version of this show it’s so messy
Can’t pay well take it away!! Or Benidorm 👏🏻👏🏻
15:18 imagine you work at that prison and this very random looking guy who just got released is picked up but a huge limousine. 😂
"She's now 16 so she can legally get married."
Ah. Brilliant. I'll just put this with the rest of the red flags.
Yeah Grabbing was a big thing in the show, its basically assault to end up in a shotgun wedding.
Because the girls are blamed if it is seen as having ruined her.
Christ, poor girl, I feel so sorry for her. And her dogs.
2:03 This type of behavior is so disturbing! And I say that as someone that's experienced it, while also being a guy. And I imagine it's way worse for girls.
Thank you for giving me faith in the young community. You are very insightful and it's good to see that in young people. I hope you have a wonderful future in videography!
Even more shocking than this. There is an episode where the girl was gifted a cat by her fiancee. She dead serious said she hates cats, asked can you eat cats. She was serious.
Wait… what?😂 like she hated it so much she wanted to eat it or she thought it was a gift for her to eat? Either way that’s wild.
I promise if my fiancé did that to any of my pets he would be following them after
does cameron realise that vegazzle and bedazzle are not the same thing
The way you’ve full named him has made me crease hahah
Throwing dogs in the river, snatching toddlers and threatening mams. Sounds like a class act
no way he fuckin threw that dog
“It’s crazy how mature she is for her age” woah cam you need to calm down!
Nowadays a lot of gypsy couples ‘runaway’ to ensure they’re allowed to marry because they will have spent the night alone together without any supervision so to save face they’re allowed to marry
This show is insane 😭 also looking for a husband at 13/14 is crazyy
Childmarriage
If someone even put their hands on my dog to pick him up I would be on the news
The fact that I used to watch this and think it was ok… is not in fact ok
Use to watch this on tlc when I was a teen. And what those kids and mothers had to go through use to scare me. I was only a couple years younger than them. Is this real life, outrageous!
“shitting rusty water in the morning” is wild
The “grabbing” thing is a tradition at traveller weddings; the boys set their sights on someone and try to grab them thru the evening while the girls try to escape. It’s definitely unpleasant but nobody in the community would be shocked by their “how we met” story
hi cam!! you are honestly one of the biggest influences on my life and i look forward to watch your videos while i eat my dinner
I was engaged by 13 so i ran away to england i am now the happiest ive been with a guy that respects me and a gypsy family (thats nothing to do with my family) took me in and they love both me and my partner
Sorry to say, but you were groomed.
American here, so this traveler thing is completely unfamiliar to me. All I know is that he threw that dog into a body of water. He was dead to me after that.
In the late 2010s an Irish traveler family was famous in NZ - they were here on holiday and within a week had the entire country mad at them. They were filmed taking over a picnic area, insulting locals, leaving trash everywhere and trashing their motel rooms. Running scams as they moved about, intimidating people. There were even warnings in the media that they were going to another town. They were deported.
As usual stupendous entertainment to watch with my dinner tonight. Thank you kind sir
There is no way, I repeat NO FUCKING WAY, he isn't throwing your kids into the river whenever he gets annoyed with them. But I'm sure that will never happen.
The fact he threw that dog in a lake with what seems to be blue green algae on it is not okay
Cam I believe the term is bedazzle and the term vagazzle is the bedazzling of the lady parts 😂💀
7:08 OMG! But also this is why I love dogs the most! They forgive you even if you are a piece of 💩 and the doggo seemed very proud with the big ass stick ❤
i love these videos they brighten up my day thank youu , 15 im 15 i dont think im ready for marrage not even closee
I'm 20 next month and I still think I'm a good decade away from even considering it. I love my boyfriend to bits but until you're 25 your brain literally isn't done developing, so I think I'm gonna wait until then to really wonder about it. The thought of a 15 year old getting married is absolutely mental to me
That grabbing shit they do is a proper madness 😮 if anyone else done that sort of madness then they would be getting arrested an sent to prison for sexual assault for real
I'm only up to the part where you're talking about John's family but if you haven't already Google his sister Josie, her and some other family members including the mam actually went to prison/got put.on tag for beating up a pregnant lass and I believe one with learning difficulties from their community. There is another episode with Josie Blinging up a tag she has to wear with gems!! I'd love to see you react to more of these, maybe Sam and Patrick's wedding as she wasnt a traveller but he was but she did everything the gypsy way for their wedding. I think I may have invested too much time in this show 😂😂😂. Lots of love Cam from county Durham xxx
Edit didn't realise the blinded up tag was this episode 😂😂 xxx
Sam and patrick are no longer together she now is married to a country boy and has another child, cheyenne and john are still together with 4 daughters
This is gypsy life is so different to ours . Girls marry at the age of 15 & don't go to highschool they finish school at age 10. The boys finish school at the age of 10/11 & go straight into work.
They don’t go to work, they don’t pay taxes. They scam people and rob , get every benefit going. If you say anything you’re called racist.
18:01 hey cam I’m a traveler but it’s the sad truth about the culture is that woman will get called “dirty” for being with men before hand even some people don’t like when you date someone without intentions of getting married,(fun fact travellers sometimes get nicknames for random stuff I actually have an uncle nicknamed grease because he likes elvis and the grease movies or even my granddad is called small John because he was short)
"half an hour ago I was in jail"
And in half a year you'll be right back
Youngest out of 5 here, just because you're surrounded by people doesn't mean that you can't be lonely.
Fucking love the dad came out of prison to a glass of prosecco lmao
please watch more of this series. I’ve been watching it for years and love it and seeing u react to it it’s actually hilarious 😂
Gotten to the point where only being called a gorgeous donut makes me feel special 🥰, keep up the great work! I love your videos
"I've just finished watching 'My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding,' and I can't help but feel a mix of emotions. On one hand, the extravagance of the ceremonies and the strong sense of community among the Romani people is truly fascinating. The vibrant colors, the elaborate dresses, and the cultural traditions displayed are nothing short of mesmerizing. It's a colorful celebration of love and family that really stands out in a world where weddings can often seem standardized.
However, as I reflect deeper, I can't shake the sense of brutality that accompanies some of the portrayals. While I appreciate the cultural aspects, the show also highlights some uncomfortable truths about tradition and gender roles within these communities. The pressure on young women to conform to certain ideals, particularly regarding their appearances and the expectations placed upon them for marriage, is quite alarming. It raises questions about autonomy, personal choice, and the sacrifices faced by these individuals in the name of tradition.
Moreover, the way the series sometimes sensationalizes these practices can lead to harmful stereotypes. It's crucial for viewers to approach this content with a critical lens, recognizing the complexities and nuances of Romani culture that the show might overlook or oversimplify.
In a broader sense, the reality show format often thrives on exaggerating certain traits for entertainment, which can perpetuate misunderstandings about the community as a whole. I believe it’s vital to engage in conversations around representation and to seek authentic voices from within the Romani community.
Ultimately, this show has opened my eyes to the rich tapestry of traditions while also prompting critical discussions about cultural practices and societal expectations. It’s a reminder that behind the glitz and glamour, there are real stories, real struggles, and a real need for understanding and respect. Let’s hope that through dialogue, we can appreciate the beauty of the culture while also advocating for positive change.”
I live In The us and am not a traveler. But my dad use to tell me I was his property and he owned me. He’s a disgusting pig to me. I no longer talk to him. I’m 27 😂
It’s crazy how men or dads can think they own their daughters
The relationship would have ended the instant he threw the dog. And the restraining order would have been in its place.
'There's a gap in his fridge with cheynne's name on it' the donkey noise I made 😂😂
Jodie’s wedding was insane and the divorce was crazy
I just realized this show existed and I’m so happy you are reacting to it!
Normally Cam Reacts is so funny but MBFGW is just disgusting. John doing that to the dog shows he has control issues and would likely do that to her. 'grabbing' is assault in any other area of society.
Your videos make my days better thanks
As someone who has taught in a primary school which was for Romanian Gypsy children, I must tell you that Travellers are given a VERY bad reputation by shows like this. I taught Year 5 (ages 9-10), and they were the sweetest children I think I’ve ever met. They had so much love to give. Yes, the things about gender roles and young marriage/childbirth are very real, and SOME had problems with violence, however, so many of the children just needed guidance, love and support. I bonded so well with all of them, we were all crying when I left. They just needed gentle instruction and I was honestly honoured to have them as my first class as a teacher. They don’t deserve the horrible stereotypes pushed onto them, they just needed powerful role models. They were the most adorable children, many didn’t speak English as a first language and were well below the “UK Average” in terms of reading and writing. However, when the right materials were given, they THRIVED!! They’re not “dirty”, “violent” or “weird”, they just needed some love.❤
Take over Ownership?! Wtf
OMG I WAS ADDICTED TO THIS SHOW BUT IT GOT TOOOOOO INTO 15-YEAR-OLDS FOR MY LIKING 😭😭
Bit dodgy that
Cam you’re glowing 🔥💖
Sooo, I agree with parts of your reaction, but I feel like describing “Grabbing” as weird rather than acknowledging that it’s sexual assault is an under reaction. Culturally it’s even more problematic because girls are devalued in this context if they’ve been alone with a boy. She’s making the best of it, but she can’t leave this guy who then throws her dog in a river. He was evil when he cornered her and ruined her reputation.
I have BEEN WAITING MONTHS FOR THIS
not all “traditions” are good or worth keeping
Cam you’re looking so good! PLEASE DO MORE STRICTEST PARENTS ❤️❤️
enjoying watching this while eating me scan, love from up north xx
I think it’s fair to say that the Gypsy life would not be for me. No grabbing, no ownership, no leaving school early to keep house and breed and definitely no pet flinging. It would be better to be single and at peace than deal with that craziness.
You'll be glad to hear then that not a single couple this showed covered was a G*psy, most of them weren't even travellers
"down there is going to be like a yo sushi canter" is crazy LMAO
I’ve watched the American version of this show but not the English one, the American one is VERY messed up
I started with the American one, but I promise you, the British one is worse
The baby has a gun? What is this, America?
This episode made me super uncomfortable. I’ve never heard of the traveller lifestyle before and I don’t know what it’s like in other aspects but a lot of what was shone here was pretty off putting. Abuse, objectification, assault, marrying off literal children, sexism, misogyny? that all seems really toxic and nasty to me and I don’t know if I could "respect the culture" to excuse that sort of stuff. It takes away someone’s humanity and agency.
Your reaction videos to shows and movies are the best. I’ve watched ALL the gypsy wedding episodes lol
If she's 15 now...18 months ago she was 13...
Oh my god he said baby with a gun. THERES A BABY WITH A GUN. Please tell me somebody gets it. Like this can’t be lost media it was too funny
Taking selfies in the limo on the way to pick Dad up from prison is just........😂
A fight 3 days before his own wedding??? Every moment of this is more insane than the last
Cam is by far the best RUclipsr on this world. Also can you react to Friday night dinner! Love ur videos cam keep going ❤️❤️❤️
My mum's dad died before she met my dad and her mum died before they got married and my brother was born. Both never knew they would have 4 grandkids
So he grabs younger women and forces himself into them and throws little dogs into the lake? Absolute wrong’un
Cam Kirkham is the best RUclipsr on this platform
15 year olds getting married & im 15 and have never even held hands wtf
This used to be my favourite show ever when I was little
Same happened between Neanderthall women. "Well, I got a concussion and he did drag me by my hair into his cave but it's culture and I've got chosen. Look at Ooga-mooga with her fully functioning brain and still a spinster at 18 😳🙄"
Loved this show, hope to see you make more vids on this
Latest point that I would have never spoken a word to him again is when he throws the dog in the water. Like wtf.
It’s all fun and games until there is animal abuse. And literally you can’t tell me that he wouldn’t go abusive towards her too one day.
This is all soooo goddamn wrong. Goodness I could literally write an entire roman about the rage that I am feeling right now towards these kind of people and their so called “culture“.
It’s a cult y‘all please understand that…
god i adored this show as a kid
Grabbing is unfortunately the most common way people meet their spouses in the community 😕
It’s literally sexual assault
@@Nahbrochill well done