Firstly, thank you to David for a first-class video presentation and production. Plus, congratulations on achieving the first milestone of over 50k subscribers. Please allow me to offer some feedback, in particularly to the comments about the V+1 looking like other frames or taken from a catalogue. I can assure you all Vielo frames, forks, bar-stem combo, plus customized small parts are first conceived, then designed and engineered in house (by our own engineer). Then the process starts to discuss these designs with our appointed manufacture and their team of engineers. I know how many hundreds of hours of discussions and meetings it took, because I was involved and directing every meeting, plus the large investment in tooling, R&D and testing to bring the V+1 and R+1 into final production. Please also allow me to touch on pricing and the current state of the bicycle industry supply - v - demand. We apply a bicycle industry standard mark up to any of the products we have manufactured. Because we are a smaller volume customer, plus we have much more frame detail, compared to the large corporate brands, we except our unit cost will be slightly higher (than the large volume corporate brands). The overall finished bike price is then determined by the component choice. In the case of the V+1 here, we provided the top line SRAM Red eTap XPLR grouspet with Zipp 303s wheels. As David mentioned in the review, we offer a range of specs from frame set only, full bike with GRX mechanical, right across different levels from Shimano, Campag and SRAM. Right now, we see raw materials and supply in much greater demand than I have ever seen in my 36 years’ experience in the bicycle trade and manufacturing business. Raw material prices for Aluminium, Carbon Fibre (plus many other materials) are being pushed higher from suppliers to manufactures, shipping costs have increased considerably. All these have impact on the retail sales price of bicycles and components. Best not mention Brexit here, that’s another story 😊
The aesthetics and design features of this bike are spot on. Once we have 12/13 speed, 1x is a no brainer unless you really need those roadie gear steps. The price point however is bonkers for a relatively unknown brand....the other way to do it would be to build a customer base with an attainable price, then build up to dentist-level later. The decision not to have even a subtle side logo on the down-tube is a brave one as on first glance it looks like a Chinese catalogue frame, if the brand wants to build a reputation it may be better to shout about it a bit more - their design ethos after-all looks really good.
Comments suggest Veilo should have let you have the cheapest model to review because at £10k people just turned off. Also a link to their website in your information should be a standard thing David. Lovely clean looking bike.
Great review David. I recently purchased a Lauf True Grit for half the money. If you get the chance to review one , you will not be disappointed One of the best kept secrets.
That’s the best looking carbon bike I’ve ever seen. I will wouldn’t ride it if I was given it for free. The best part of being old and 10 pounds overweight is that I’ll never require a carbon bike.
Looks like the rear brake routing port on the right is Euro specific (aka left hand for rear, aka moto style) or am I seeing things? That would make for a less clean American routing and lots of frame rub. Cheers!
I considered this because would be nice to have UK bike brand to ride in USA. Something special and not seen around here. But only 1x option was a deal breaker for me. Would be awesome to have both options if consumer choose to swap 1x or 2x.
Lovely bike and easy to clean bb area. I think I could build up that frame into a cracking ride for less than 10k for a kick off I wouldn't have zipp's but thats my preference.
Firstly, thank you to David for a first-class video presentation and production. Plus, congratulations on achieving the first milestone of over 50k subscribers.
Please allow me to offer some feedback, in particularly to the comments about the V+1 looking like other frames or taken from a catalogue.
I can assure you all Vielo frames, forks, bar-stem combo, plus customized small parts are first conceived, then designed and engineered in house (by our own engineer). Then the process starts to discuss these designs with our appointed manufacture and their team of engineers. I know how many hundreds of hours of discussions and meetings it took, because I was involved and directing every meeting, plus the large investment in tooling, R&D and testing to bring the V+1 and R+1 into final production.
Please also allow me to touch on pricing and the current state of the bicycle industry supply - v - demand.
We apply a bicycle industry standard mark up to any of the products we have manufactured. Because we are a smaller volume customer, plus we have much more frame detail, compared to the large corporate brands, we except our unit cost will be slightly higher (than the large volume corporate brands).
The overall finished bike price is then determined by the component choice. In the case of the V+1 here, we provided the top line SRAM Red eTap XPLR grouspet with Zipp 303s wheels. As David mentioned in the review, we offer a range of specs from frame set only, full bike with GRX mechanical, right across different levels from Shimano, Campag and SRAM.
Right now, we see raw materials and supply in much greater demand than I have ever seen in my 36 years’ experience in the bicycle trade and manufacturing business. Raw material prices for Aluminium, Carbon Fibre (plus many other materials) are being pushed higher from suppliers to manufactures, shipping costs have increased considerably. All these have impact on the retail sales price of bicycles and components. Best not mention Brexit here, that’s another story 😊
Looks great but that price. Even the bottom end one is Santa Cruz Stigmata money and with SC you get the fantastic warranty and replacement program.
10k for what exactly? Bog standard geometry, external cables, and the racers can't even put a front mech on it.
Fancy Zipp wheels on a gravel bike.
The aesthetics and design features of this bike are spot on. Once we have 12/13 speed, 1x is a no brainer unless you really need those roadie gear steps. The price point however is bonkers for a relatively unknown brand....the other way to do it would be to build a customer base with an attainable price, then build up to dentist-level later. The decision not to have even a subtle side logo on the down-tube is a brave one as on first glance it looks like a Chinese catalogue frame, if the brand wants to build a reputation it may be better to shout about it a bit more - their design ethos after-all looks really good.
“Chuffing freezing” I like that. 😉👍
specially he's without overshoes and gloves :-p
Comments suggest Veilo should have let you have the cheapest model to review because at £10k people just turned off. Also a link to their website in your information should be a standard thing David. Lovely clean looking bike.
Very nice - but for £10k it bloody well should be. Lets be honest, prices for bikes have got out of hand.......
Great review David.
I recently purchased a Lauf True Grit for half the money.
If you get the chance to review one , you will not be disappointed
One of the best kept secrets.
I have asked but tricky getting them from Iceland to here but hopefully change that soon
Very clean looking bike. Great review as always!
How about reviewing some 2k bikes for most of us to afford..? Your reviews are very good.
Totally want to just supply issues making it real tricky at the moment
designed in uk - probably unless you correct me, manufactured in china. a markup of a substantial percentage.
That’s the best looking carbon bike I’ve ever seen. I will wouldn’t ride it if I was given it for free. The best part of being old and 10 pounds overweight is that I’ll never require a carbon bike.
When the price was mentioned I clicked away.
Looks to be from the same mould as a Ghost gravel bike, but their's was a quarter the price. I think they just picked the frame out of a cataloge. 🙄
Great review. I’m curious to how this compares to the Specialized Crux?
So you prefer the Specialized !
They have my interest….
Looks like the rear brake routing port on the right is Euro specific (aka left hand for rear, aka moto style) or am I seeing things? That would make for a less clean American routing and lots of frame rub. Cheers!
Hi Liam, There is a cable port on each side of the down tube, with the necessary cable plugs to enable clean cable routing for any country.
@@ianhughes4169 thank you Ian. It’s a beautiful bike and you guys did a great job on both the V+1 and R + 1. Cheers!
6 minutes in and I’ve learnt that it’s 10 grand and 1 by. That was enough time wasted.
£10k for a gravel bike 🤣🤣
Lower priced models are available as I pointed out in the video 😉
I considered this because would be nice to have UK bike brand to ride in USA. Something special and not seen around here. But only 1x option was a deal breaker for me. Would be awesome to have both options if consumer choose to swap 1x or 2x.
Lovely bike and easy to clean bb area. I think I could build up that frame into a cracking ride for less than 10k for a kick off I wouldn't have zipp's but thats my preference.
10k...?? wtf
Bike companies raise the prices of their product to pretend they have top of the line materials and high quality.
If its1x why are there two gear paddles on the brake levers?
Personally I'd rather the Fairlight Faran.
And save myself nigh on eight grand.
Looks like the Carbonda CFR 696
Probably need to get your eyes tested 😋😎
@@davidarthur Your comment was not nice. Why so disrespectful?
Because the two bikes don't look anything alike. And the winky face suggests I'm just poking a bit of fun at you :)
Cough cough- hell to the no.