I've had an N+1 for about three years. I continue to be amazed how compliant the bike is off-road, a feel similar to an '80's mtb,.Yet as soon as you ride on-road you're on something more like my Bianchi carbon race bike! The beauty of the manipulation possible with carbon lay up's. I ride primarily off-road with it and take on some pretty technical trails. I once had 17th on KOM for the year on a particularly rocky downhill on the Vielo. Doesn't sound much until you look at what was quicker. All big travel mtb's and there was only a handful of seconds in it. I still love it and rave about it even though the "new bike syndrome" has long gone. My only regret is my version 1 doesn't have that amazing 50mm clearance in 700C.
Last point is the most important - mind riding where you do in half decent weather would always bring a smile to my face!!!!!! Great review - better start saving.
Such a refreshing change to see such an honest, open review. I'm just glad you're finally getting on with it. It could've easily turned out to be a massive waste of money.
It’s a beautiful bike with some stunning touches. 4k is a little strong for me, hence why I went for the Camino but in aluminium. However it’s all about getting out, so vive Le difference
The Vielo is a beautiful looking bike Simon, and obviously rides as well as it looks. I would love to explore that direction but will stick to my Ti Tempest, it looks to have a similarly ‘racy’ riding position and can also take a 700c x 50 tyre. I currently have the 43mm Rock and Roads on it for winter gravel riding, some 32mm road tyres on a pair of Roval wheels for road riding, and a pair of Hutchinson Override’s in 700 x 45 for summer gravel mounted on WTB rims. I recently found out that the Rock and Roads are available in 700 x 48 in tubeless ready but currently only in the USA-I have been really impressed with their grip, comfort, and fast rolling on the road in the 43mm size so will get a pair when I visit my daughter in Iowa next year.
Nice video but I think I'll stick with my Mason Bokeh. 15k plus in the past year its now a very comfortable ride as well as my go to bike when deciding which bike I own to ride. I guess its a Persian choice - what works for one may not work for another. I use it as a winter trainer, bike backing rig and a off road machine.
Loving my OnOne Free Ranger (full carbon and SRAM Rival £1400) Got 700x45mm tyres and extra set of wheels, cassette, rotors wth 32mm tyres for when I ride mainly road (selling my old Trek Madone). Did a Review on my Channel. Sonder Bomber bar and shorter stem, swapped 42t for a 38t chainring as cassette is 11-42. Great for Argyll and for Dukes Weekender in September 😃
It’s amazing what they are doing with carbon! With those leaf spring seat stays, the wide 700x50c clearance are a great added bonus with big tires to add to the stability on ruff terrain. I’d be interested to see how it reacts with 650b rims and Mtn bike tires for extreme weather conditions.
I’ve just come back to this review tonight, really enjoyed it the second time and I too have that bike I go too that’s also made my road bike sort of redundant. I’m running sram force 1 x 11 mechanical and my question is are you sold by the AXS as I’m contemplating upgrading to that in the new year, hoping to make the bike that makes me smile even better?
If I’m honest, no. The 2x AXS I had on the demo FARA bike I recently to review was very smooth. This 1x sometimes feels like - occasionally - it doesn’t engage smoothly. It’s in the LBS trying to get to the bottom of it. A friend rode it with the same question you have and he ended up up-grading to electronic.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks Simon, thats interesting and as I’ve heard mixed reviews on the AXS front mechs, I’m looking at going XPLR with a 40T upfront and a 10-44 cassette, Hope you get the issues sorted be interesting to find out the outcome.
Seen the comments here £500 versus £5k which sounds like a good possible future video. How about when you fix up your old mountain bike have a gravel circuit and compare times between the old mtb and your Vielo?
A Felt Breed 20 is half the price! Same for a lauf allroad. A sonder camino can be a quarter the price. I don't ride enough to warrant the cost and with the bike industry dead set on making bikes obselete as quick as possible there seems no point spending big bucks for me personally. My Whyte kings cross - 130mm OLD rear hub spacing with disk brakes - anyone find me a hub that fits? Bikes are supposed to be enviromentally friendly but binning them because you can't get spares wees all over that. They are supposed to be fun but trying to find cash to buy a decent one, knowing it could be trash faster that most things you buy...hmm. Not feeling it. The bike industry is taking the... This bike looks lovely I'm just grumpy because I can't have one. Sorry to moan. Love your videos.
How do you like the 50c gravel tires? My gravel bike came with 32c tires & I have plenty of clearance to run 50c tires & am looking to buy a set. I will have to get tubes for 50c too.
This bike would suit my riding perfectly. I've got an Scott Addict Gravel 10 on order which is another fast gravel bike like the Vielo so should I wait for the Scott or swap? The Veilo is considerably more money and I wish there were more build options with gear choice because I've no need for a mullet set-up. I got plenty of time to think they Scott is still months away.
You might want to ring Ian and Trevor at Vielo and chat. Ian was the man who brought Scott to the UK so he knows the brand well. They’re both very approachable.
I know I should have updated on this. I don't think I wanted to admit that I wasn't going to take the bike. I had a great offer from a friend to do-it-up, but we have such a tiny house and are so restricted on space I can't justify it.
@@DillonTDavis I’m glad you found the channel Dillon and hopefully other videos will be of interest. You’ve reminded me I need to tell my friend whose barn that is!
What’s the actual difference between a £5 k bike.. and a 11kg decathalon triban rc500 sora £650 with gravel tyres … does the 5k bike go 10x faster. Does it take 10x longer to get dirty, do parts last 10x longer… is it 90% the weight? What does a super bike get actually you I’m considering…. As pricey bike… £1500-£2000… but I’m not sure what it gets me Both bikes still have gears. I just did 75k road and off road to box hill…. I was keeping up with some roadies on hills… flats is no issue.… but some blasted past me on very expensive aero bikes up hill. EBikes, on a hill.. forget it, they are fast
You need to ride them to see. They might not be for you. I did a track day with some serious bikes a few years ago - the difference between the nice bikes (which would be fine) and the 10K Heroine bike was astounding. It leapt underneath me. It's so hard to describe, but it's a bit like riding a pony or a race horse.
Price increases with bikes in relation to clear improvements in the bike itself diminish incrimentally the higher you go. I'm not clever enough to be sure I've got my words correct there but hopefully you know what I mean!! So a 5k bike will never be ten times better than a 500 pound one. But people are willing to pay a surprising amount for relatively small gains. Once you get over the 1500 to 2k range the improvements versus cash are small so and i reckon that's therefore a good range to go for for something good.
@@seanmcfarlane2011 more money… diminishing returns…. I’m not a pro… but fitness level on Komoot is at the athletic level.. I think I’d get practical enjoyment at a 105 level… carbon frame, say 9kg…. But I’m wondering if I’d get even more out of a sub 8kg bike…. The cost is a huge diff once you move up from 105 though… But do I buy an e bike… a 105 carbon… something even nicer…. I need to try them out
Sadly you can't Kev. It's a row between Apple and Google (RUclips's owners). Apple wants a 30% share of everything that is earned via the App store, and the RUclips App comes from the App store. RUclips doesn't want to give them 30% of revenue so no one can join a channel as a member and I can't post to Members or operate any Member only functionality via my iPhone. PIA - sorry! The only way is to use the desktop/laptop version of RUclips.
@@alexdayes9685 clearly I’ve not been clear! No I’m not saying that. I’m saying I don’t need to use it, despite the bars being carbon. Sorry it I confused.
@@alwaysanotheradventure ah right so you don't have the axles either, I've got the V2 aluminium and it takes 700 X 50 and has through axles. I absolutely love it but as you say it's a long distance comfortable bike rather than a speed machine.
I've had an N+1 for about three years. I continue to be amazed how compliant the bike is off-road, a feel similar to an '80's mtb,.Yet as soon as you ride on-road you're on something more like my Bianchi carbon race bike! The beauty of the manipulation possible with carbon lay up's. I ride primarily off-road with it and take on some pretty technical trails. I once had 17th on KOM for the year on a particularly rocky downhill on the Vielo. Doesn't sound much until you look at what was quicker. All big travel mtb's and there was only a handful of seconds in it. I still love it and rave about it even though the "new bike syndrome" has long gone. My only regret is my version 1 doesn't have that amazing 50mm clearance in 700C.
Last point is the most important - mind riding where you do in half decent weather would always bring a smile to my face!!!!!! Great review - better start saving.
Such a refreshing change to see such an honest, open review. I'm just glad you're finally getting on with it. It could've easily turned out to be a massive waste of money.
@Ralph Reilly What! This comment was made over a year ago, when there were very few of these bikes available.
Very nice and good to see the thought process behind the frame and setup...👍
It’s a beautiful bike with some stunning touches. 4k is a little strong for me, hence why I went for the Camino but in aluminium. However it’s all about getting out, so vive Le difference
Well done mate. Great video! You are very honest.
Thanks Suresh, I try to be
Sweet looking bike that Simon. Great review too.
The Vielo is a beautiful looking bike Simon, and obviously rides as well as it looks. I would love to explore that direction but will stick to my Ti Tempest, it looks to have a similarly ‘racy’ riding position and can also take a 700c x 50 tyre. I currently have the 43mm Rock and Roads on it for winter gravel riding, some 32mm road tyres on a pair of Roval wheels for road riding, and a pair of Hutchinson Override’s in 700 x 45 for summer gravel mounted on WTB rims. I recently found out that the Rock and Roads are available in 700 x 48 in tubeless ready but currently only in the USA-I have been really impressed with their grip, comfort, and fast rolling on the road in the 43mm size so will get a pair when I visit my daughter in Iowa next year.
Worth knowing - thanks
This is a stunning looking bike
And their price has dropped
Nice video but I think I'll stick with my Mason Bokeh.
15k plus in the past year its now a very comfortable ride as well as my go to bike when deciding which bike I own to ride. I guess its a Persian choice - what works for one may not work for another.
I use it as a winter trainer, bike backing rig and a off road machine.
That’s a superb bike!
@@alwaysanotheradventure very kind with your coments - thank you.
I have ti say - I do like the Velo brand, a case where less is more.
Loving my OnOne Free Ranger (full carbon and SRAM Rival £1400)
Got 700x45mm tyres and extra set of wheels, cassette, rotors wth 32mm tyres for when I ride mainly road (selling my old Trek Madone).
Did a Review on my Channel.
Sonder Bomber bar and shorter stem, swapped 42t for a 38t chainring as cassette is 11-42.
Great for Argyll and for Dukes Weekender in September 😃
That's a great looking bike!
It’s amazing what they are doing with carbon! With those leaf spring seat stays, the wide 700x50c clearance are a great added bonus with big tires to add to the stability on ruff terrain. I’d be interested to see how it reacts with 650b rims and Mtn bike tires for extreme weather conditions.
I’ve just come back to this review tonight, really enjoyed it the second time and I too have that bike I go too that’s also made my road bike sort of redundant. I’m running sram force 1 x 11 mechanical and my question is are you sold by the AXS as I’m contemplating upgrading to that in the new year, hoping to make the bike that makes me smile even better?
If I’m honest, no. The 2x AXS I had on the demo FARA bike I recently to review was very smooth. This 1x sometimes feels like - occasionally - it doesn’t engage smoothly. It’s in the LBS trying to get to the bottom of it. A friend rode it with the same question you have and he ended up up-grading to electronic.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks Simon, thats interesting and as I’ve heard mixed reviews on the AXS front mechs, I’m looking at going XPLR with a 40T upfront and a 10-44 cassette, Hope you get the issues sorted be interesting to find out the outcome.
Awesome video, thank you!
Seen the comments here £500 versus £5k which sounds like a good possible future video. How about when you fix up your old mountain bike have a gravel circuit and compare times between the old mtb and your Vielo?
GREAT idea! I have the very MTB in my shed (and I don’t need to do it up).
A Felt Breed 20 is half the price!
Same for a lauf allroad.
A sonder camino can be a quarter the price.
I don't ride enough to warrant the cost and with the bike industry dead set on making bikes obselete as quick as possible there seems no point spending big bucks for me personally.
My Whyte kings cross - 130mm OLD rear hub spacing with disk brakes - anyone find me a hub that fits?
Bikes are supposed to be enviromentally friendly but binning them because you can't get spares wees all over that.
They are supposed to be fun but trying to find cash to buy a decent one, knowing it could be trash faster that most things you buy...hmm. Not feeling it.
The bike industry is taking the...
This bike looks lovely I'm just grumpy because I can't have one.
Sorry to moan.
Love your videos.
I still love my Camino and it’s in the next three videos.
Great review thank you!
How do you like the 50c gravel tires? My gravel bike came with 32c tires & I have plenty of clearance to run 50c tires & am looking to buy a set. I will have to get tubes for 50c too.
It can take 50mm but I have 45mm and they're good. I do feel a bit of drag on the road and I suspect 50 would feel more.
"A modest £4,000". I'm sorry but I had to chuckle when I heard this...
In context of the word “superbike”. Otherwise, yeah it’s more “WTF £4K!!!”
This bike would suit my riding perfectly. I've got an Scott Addict Gravel 10 on order which is another fast gravel bike like the Vielo so should I wait for the Scott or swap? The Veilo is considerably more money and I wish there were more build options with gear choice because I've no need for a mullet set-up. I got plenty of time to think they Scott is still months away.
You might want to ring Ian and Trevor at Vielo and chat. Ian was the man who brought Scott to the UK so he knows the brand well. They’re both very approachable.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Ahh, very interesting information I might just do that. Thanks
May I ask you a question regarding the front chainring size, please, and the cassette in the back...? So that we know your setup...? Thank you!
Hi Tomas 10-50 cassette and a 40T chainring (although I’d like a 38T some days😁)
@@alwaysanotheradventure 40 just seems to slow?
@@Leo-gt1bx They do from 38-50 chainring size www.vielo.cc/products/vielo-alloy-chainrings
The V+1 is great, but I’m still dying to see what you’ve been doing with your old Marin!!
I know I should have updated on this. I don't think I wanted to admit that I wasn't going to take the bike. I had a great offer from a friend to do-it-up, but we have such a tiny house and are so restricted on space I can't justify it.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Totally understand, but still such a bummer. That barn find video is what brought me to the channel.
@@DillonTDavis I’m glad you found the channel Dillon and hopefully other videos will be of interest. You’ve reminded me I need to tell my friend whose barn that is!
where was this filmed?
Around the village of Strontian in the Scottish Highlands
That's a lot of cash for a bicycle. Great video non the less. Thanks.
Another nice video, can I ask what is the bar bag you have on the velo?
Thanks Andy. It’s the Bagel Bag by Scottish company Straight Cut Design.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks, I’ll definitely check it out, looks ideal for me 👍
@@mission1966 www.straightcutdesign.com/collections/bags/products/bagel-bar-bag. Not the cheapest but a small company I felt it worth supporting.
What’s the actual difference between a £5 k bike.. and a 11kg decathalon triban rc500 sora £650 with gravel tyres …
does the 5k bike go 10x faster. Does it take 10x longer to get dirty, do parts last 10x longer… is it 90% the weight? What does a super bike get actually you
I’m considering…. As pricey bike… £1500-£2000… but I’m not sure what it gets me
Both bikes still have gears. I just did 75k road and off road to box hill…. I was keeping up with some roadies on hills… flats is no issue.… but some blasted past me on very expensive aero bikes up hill.
EBikes, on a hill.. forget it, they are fast
You need to ride them to see. They might not be for you. I did a track day with some serious bikes a few years ago - the difference between the nice bikes (which would be fine) and the 10K Heroine bike was astounding. It leapt underneath me. It's so hard to describe, but it's a bit like riding a pony or a race horse.
Price increases with bikes in relation to clear improvements in the bike itself diminish incrimentally the higher you go. I'm not clever enough to be sure I've got my words correct there but hopefully you know what I mean!! So a 5k bike will never be ten times better than a 500 pound one. But people are willing to pay a surprising amount for relatively small gains. Once you get over the 1500 to 2k range the improvements versus cash are small so and i reckon that's therefore a good range to go for for something good.
@@seanmcfarlane2011 more money… diminishing returns…. I’m not a pro… but fitness level on Komoot is at the athletic level.. I think I’d get practical enjoyment at a 105 level… carbon frame, say 9kg…. But I’m wondering if I’d get even more out of a sub 8kg bike…. The cost is a huge diff once you move up from 105 though…
But do I buy an e bike… a 105 carbon… something even nicer…. I need to try them out
Very nice bike. Just to expensive for me. I'll stick to my mountain bike for off road.
Completely understand that
Hi Simon. How can I join with iOS device? Kev
Sadly you can't Kev. It's a row between Apple and Google (RUclips's owners). Apple wants a 30% share of everything that is earned via the App store, and the RUclips App comes from the App store. RUclips doesn't want to give them 30% of revenue so no one can join a channel as a member and I can't post to Members or operate any Member only functionality via my iPhone. PIA - sorry! The only way is to use the desktop/laptop version of RUclips.
Your not supposed to use the shock stop stem with carbon bars? Has there been any issue?
No - I clearly didn't explain it well. I thought I'd need the shock stop but I don't, which surprised me.
Sorry are you saying you can’t use that stem with carbon bars?!
@@alexdayes9685 clearly I’ve not been clear! No I’m not saying that. I’m saying I don’t need to use it, despite the bars being carbon. Sorry it I confused.
@@alwaysanotheradventure bit off topic but have you tried the carbon/fibresglass bars from lauf?
@@thebrowns5337 This is the first set of carbon bars I've tried.
The Camino has space for 50mm tyres too
Mine doesn't. I can get 47mm 650b on the back, but not on the front. (!st gen bike). The Vielo takes 50mm 700c.
@@alwaysanotheradventure ah right so you don't have the axles either, I've got the V2 aluminium and it takes 700 X 50 and has through axles. I absolutely love it but as you say it's a long distance comfortable bike rather than a speed machine.
@@brazzlerazzle3834 I didn’t realise how much had changed! Thanks.
You lost me at 4 grand!!
And that's absolutely fair enough Dominic