Fujinon 16-80mm f4 R OIS WR Full Review, Part 2: Portraits (English)
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2019
- This is Part 2 of my full review of Fujinons latest zoom-lens, the 16-80mm f4 R OIS WR.
And this time I tested it regarding portraits.
I made a promise to try the 16-80 on my next shootings.
Well, I did it with these two wonderful models:
Henny: / henny_steen
Fabia: / fabi_van_t
Spoiler: I was surprised by the great out-of camera-results with the film simulations . I did not expect the lens to perform that good. There are some examples in the video.
So what is this video all about?
Of course a zoom lens like the 16-80mm f4 will not be the first choice for portrait photographers - also not mine by the way. But with the full format equivalent focal length of 120mm, the lens is still interesting for it.
But what about the maximum aperture of f4? Because of the really shallow depth of field of my beloved 56mm f1.2 I sometimes already take portraits with lower apertures like f4 or f5.6. So the f4 of the 16-80 can be "enough" for a specific style of portrait-photography.
With the longer focal length of the 80 Mill it can create a very nice bokeh, achieved by the 9 blades aperture. And all focal lengths relevant for my portrait photography (23, 35, 56) are of course "included" with the 16-80 Mill. So you can easily change from close up to a medium shot or a more wide angle view.
But of course there are some disadvantage with the 16-80mm: Doing available light portraits in low light situations is not a good thing. But in daylight I can definitely recommend the lens for portraits. Of course, it becomes more difficult with shorter focal lengths and smaller apertures. The image quality is really excellent, but can not keep up with the prime lenses of course.
It can be very good for business portraits, spontaneous street portraits or portraits of your children. It even might be a great option for wedding photographers when shooting outdoors in enough daylight. Additionally, due to the weather sealing, it is an option for portraits in the rain.
If you are looking for a universal lens for travel and maybe want to get started with portrait photography, go and buy it!
Please click on "like" and subscribe to my channel. Nearly 90% of you guys are watching without subscription, so this would be really appreciated.
The music in my videos is completely from
www.epidemicsound.com
My gear list:
jayshooter.de/my-gear-list/
Disclaimer:
I do not use affiliate links.
If there is paid advertising, I will declare it as such.
But if you want to support my channel, you can buy me a coffee.
I very much appreciate it!
www.buymeacoffee.com/Jayshooter
---------------------------------------------
MY INSTAGRAM FEEDS:
Portraits:
/ jayknipser
Street:
/ dus_streetphotography
My website:
www.jayshooter.de 
Наука
![Veeze - F.A.F (ft. Rylo Rodriguez) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7hlz2S2GmIY/mqdefault.jpg)
Hi Jay,
thank you so much for these down-to-earth reviews. I own this lens for 10 months now and - given all the complaints about softness - I was really pushing hard to find some weak spots. However, I couldn't find any. Even compared to my beloved line-up of 1.2/1.4 Fujinons I'm often having a hard time in telling the difference. My guess is that some people just don't have realistic expectations on a 5x zoom lens or are just parroting other people's experiences and conclusions.
At the end of the day, this lens will not replace any of my primes because nothing will ever replace a fast lens. But it will be glued on my camera for hiking, climbing, traveling or just casual shooting, especially in inclement weather, when switching lenses is always a pain.
Keep on your great channel and stay safe!
Bernhard
Thank you Bernard for this kind and detailed feedback. These kinds of comments really keep my motivated! Stay safe and healthy...
I loved your in-depth explanations. Also, your sense of humor is enjoyable. Good job.
Steve Wilson Thank you, Steve. I really appreciate it.
Very well done Jay. I do enjoy your videos, your honesty and you sense of humor. Thanks for sharing this review!
Edu Broncano Thank you, Edu.
Clear and well-explained video. Am probably going to buy this lens.
Thanks Jay,
Great presentational style and some beautiful portrait shots here👏👏👏
I shoot mainly street and like you with the fast primes but would like to add a weather resistant zoom. I think your portrait shots have convinced me to go the 16-80 rather than 16-55 route.
Many thanks
Mike
Thx, Mike! Glad if it was helpful. Have fun with this lens…
Hi Jay, comprehensive review.....sure great lens as a standard zoom....like your style and pepper and salty addition you do sometimes. Go on
Miguel Thanks, I appreciate it!
Thanks for the review. This helped me decide. Planning to buy X-T3 + 18-80mm. She looks so beautiful in the Christmas photo. Amazing photo.
Thank you for your kind words. And thx for watching.
Those portraits are beautiful! Nice job
Thank you!
great review, I watched both parts, thank you, you touched all aspects that interested me. Subrscibred!
Thank you! Good to hear that and I appreciate your subscription... Stay tuned!
Great reviews. I purchased it for a travel lens. So nice to only bring one lens. WR is awesome. Blessings to you. Rita
Thank you for the kind feedback! Stay safe...
Good review sir.
I believe this should be a best video lens for Fujifilm.
Thank you sir.
Eheh... Good timing. I was just looking at updated 16-80 reviews :)
Quikee I knew it. Of course. 😉
18-55mm f/2.8-4
vs 16-80mm f/4
vs 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6
Great video thank you. I would love to know your opinion on the 56 mm 1.2 APD version
Thanks a lot!
I did not test the APD version myself, but read many reviews about it and talked to the experts at my local store: For me as an amateur, APD is not an advantage that justifies the price difference. It's about using a built-in filter to achieve more softness between the sharp part and the background. In short: even softer bokeh while losing effective aperture, because the 1.2 will work like a 1.7. So I finally decided against APD because of this and the price difference (in Germany it is currently €350). If I were a professional photographer, I might have made a different decision. But even without APD, I was completely enthusiastic about the lens and did not regret buying it. I hope this is helpful.
Great review and funny Fujifilm shooter Aloha
Thanks again!
Great review, I think I’m know convinced to add this lens when it goes on sale. Hey that ring light reflecting in your eyes is very distracting. Otherwise another great video!
Thanks, Joel. yes, my ring light is also the subject of several other complaints. 😉
But at the moment it is the best choice for me, because due to the lack of space I cannot use any other light continuously. if that changes anytime i'm glad to do something about it. Thanks again for your participation!
Danke Jochen für diesen sehr kompetenten Erfahrungsbericht! Ich hätte nie gedacht dass man mit einem kleineren Sensorformat solche wundervollen Porträts "out of the camera" bekommen kann!
Bei mir lautet die Frage erst mal: Soll ich mich von meinem Nikon Z- Vollformatsystem verabschieden und zu Fuji X wechseln? Werde ich mit der Bildqualität zufrieden sein?? Vollformat ist diesbezüglich toll, aber die meisten Objektive dazu sind schwer, gross, sperrig und teuer, wenn man das Bessere und Beste will. Mühsam auf Bergtouren und Reisen, aber auch zu auffällig für die diskrete Street- und Reportagefotografie.
Ein Universalzoom wie dieses 16-80er (entspricht meinem Nikkor 12-120 F4) würde zu meinem Allrounder werden, und dein Bericht gibt mir so viel Vertrauen dass ich den Schritt wohl machen werde. Gerade im Telebereich, aber nicht nur dort, erhoffe ich mir von einem Wechsel zu APS-C eine markante Einsparung von Gewicht und Volumen, bei immer noch akzeptabler bis sehr guter Bildqualität. Mein Schwerpunkt ist die Natur- und Landschaftsfotografie, aber ich mache auch Reportagen aller Art, Streetfotografie und Porträts.
Wahrscheinlich werde ich mir nächsten eine T-4 oder X-H2 mit dem 16-80er ausleihen, dann sehe ich schon ob das passt. Und vielleicht kannst du mir auch noch ein paar ermutigende Argumente liefern für dieses System. Die X-H2 käme z.B. in Frage, doch hier befürchte ich bei hohen ISO-Werten zu viel Rauschen das wieder auf Kosten der Feinauflösung geht. Aber ich hoffe ich täusche mich diesbezüglich.
Viele Grüsse aus dem Land der Helvetier.
Hello Jochen (or Jay), great video as always. I have other zooms and primes, but since getting the 16-80 it’s glued to my camera. I did notice that it is a little too sharp for my taste, I was taking a portraiture of my mother in law and it really brings out the wrinkles on her face, she looks like a prune with eyes, this lens is too good. LOL. keep making videos in English (or Spanish).
Okay, this is an aspect, I did not think about. Wrinkles and sharpness...
Have you thought about greasing it with vaseline? That should make it significantly softer... ; ) Thanks for watching, Enrique.
@@Jayshooter_photo Hahaha, I was thinking about the vaseline trick, it was something we did in photography school (many moons ago), we would smear a very thin layer of vaseline on a cheap UV filter.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Another great video/review. Could you tell me, what are your in-camera settings for acros, brightness, shadows, etc? And which color film simulation do you use? As for myself, I mainly work with RAW but want to explore film simulations more. Thanks)
For my Portraits I always use the Acros+G with Hi-Tone+1, Shadow Tone +2 and Sharpness +1. That's pretty much it. Afterwards I develop a color version from the RAW using Pro Negative High in Capture One. Thx for watching!
Definitelly bw photos. Love them and great models
Thx for your kind feedback!
Wonderful video. And I totally agree.
I have this lens and I did my first professional photo shoot with it this past week. My model was a two year old boy. He was a moving blur of hyperactivity. I never pulled out my 50mm Prime Portrait lens. It was zoom (at 1/350 or faster) or bust in this situation. The Prime and my manual Lensbaby Velvet 56 (my two favorite portrait lens) would have been totally impractical .
I was actually blown away with how great the shoot went. Great detail, color and bokeh.
Limitations, yes. But a really wonderful lens just the same.
Sorry Bryan, I somehow missed your comment. I totally agree with your experience. It's my first choice for events outdoors or if enough light is available. Thank you for watching!
Would you say this lens would be good for toy/product photography (for the bokeh) and casual bird photography?
@@Xeallous It's an extremely versatile lens. But, it only zooms to 80mm. So casual bird photography if the birds are close enough should be fine. I've had some really good success with both flying and stationary birds that were close enough to get the detail that I wanted.
I'm not great at product photography, but the little that I have done works well with this lens.
As the 80mm is 120mm in Full Frame, it’s okay for that. But of course it’s not a wildlife lens as others. Product Photography is great with it, bokeh depending on the possible focal length. It really has a very nice bokeh at 80mm…
I haven't owned a zoom lens in years but lately I started to think this lens might be fun for trips when we get to travel again. I do worry that I would forget to adjust shutter speed when using the zoom instead of moving my feet.
You have the (really exceptional) OIS on board for that. ;)
Thx for watching...
👍🏼
Gutes Video, sehr interessant!!
Bist Du beim 56mm mit der Autofocusgeschwindigkeit zufrieden??
Ich mache viel Kinderfotographie und habe oft das Problem unscharfer Bilder...
Ist der Autofocus vom 16-80 besser??
Danke und Grüße!!
Hey Sepp. Danke! Bei Kindern würde ich ja immer als erstes vermuten, dass die Verschlusszeiten zu lang sind, wenn die Bilder unscharf sind. OIS ist dann natürlich hilfreich. Grundsätzlich ist mein Eindruck aber tatsächlich, dass der AF vom 16-80 etwas flotter ist, als der des 56mm. Wenn das Bokeh nicht ganz so wichtig ist: Probier es doch mal aus... Grüße zurück!
a good quality 24-120 (in 35mm) constant aperture zoom will ALWAYS be a versatile lens for portraiture, and i'm glad you pointed out why. of course it will never be accepted by the prime only shooters :-)
why you restrict your creative ability for portraiture by only shooting in available light is a mystery to me, and you just stated a good example of why.....but that's another subject that could and will be debated forever :-)
nice video review !
Thank you for your opinion. About the „available light“ theme: it's about focusing on the people, I want to create a portrait of. I don't like to take care of more equipment like light or flash. It just doesn't fit my way of working, it is not a rule set that I gave myself as a creative limitation. Thanks again for your comment, I appreciate it.
Hi Jay,
I enjoyed the Portraits and the music you added along with it . Would you please let me know the music album or where you to find this music.
Thank you,
Wiedersehen
All the music I use is from epidemicsound.com
In this case it's "Green Hills (Instrumental Version)" by Ten Towers. Thank you for watching!
btw do you have 50mm f/2 wr? if so, is it good for portraits and what's the longest exposure you was able to handheld with that lens on x-t3 without blur?
John Smith I used to own it, but sold it for the 56mm 1.2. I think it’s a great little lens, also for portraits. I love all the lenses of the f2 series for the better AF, smaller size, WR and their price. But the bokeh of the 56 is unbeatable. Regarding motion blur: I always use the standard rule 1/focal length = shutter speed, but I always use the FF equivalent to calculate it. So with the 50mm a shutter speed 1/75s should be fine, so I go with 1/125s. I can’t remember to have different values with this lens. Hope this helps. Thx for watching!
Hallo Jochen,
ich überlege stark, mir das 16-80 zu kaufen.
In den Foren wird häufig erwähnt, dass man besser eines mit einer hohen Seriennummer, also ein kürzlich produziertes, nehmen soll, weil Fuji da bereits einige Kinderkrankheiten ausgemerzt haben soll....
Nun meine Frage, wie „lese“ ich bei Fuji die Seriennummern? Also woran erkenne ich, ob das Objektiv „alt oder neu“ auf dem Markt ist??
Dank Dir!
Schönes Wochenende!!
Seb
Hey Seb. Davon habe ich persönlich noch überhaupt nix gehört. Ich habe das Objektiv relativ früh gekauft und einige Kinderkrankheiten wurden seitdem per Firmware ausgemerzt und die neuen Versionen haben diese natürlich schon aufgespielt. Ansonsten kann ich nichts, aber auch gar nichts negatives über meine frühe Version berichten. Angeblich kann man das Jahr auf einem Barcode-Sticker auf der Box ablesen. Auf meinem 16mm 2.8 beginnt die Zahl unter dem Barcode mit einer "9" was angeblich bedeutet, dass es 2019 gebaut wurde. Ich kann das aber nicht verifizieren. Viel Erfolg!
Thanks for the review! I'm planning to buy the XT3 and I'm debating with which lens to buy it- 16-80 VS 18-55? What do you recommend? 🙏😊
The 18-55 is for sure a great lens and also really compact and cheap to get, especially used. But if that is not important for you, I would recommend the 16-80. Have a look at the other videos about it here. Thx for watching!
@@Jayshooter_photo thank you!
Hey Jay graet video. Thanks
I just got my first Fujifilm gear. X-T3 with 16-80mm F4 kit. And I'm must ask you something. Did you notice a static noise coming from the 16-80mm lens when the camera is on stills or video
? Even when the OIS is turn off and Manual focus. It's a noise that sounds well when the room is completely quiet and even the camera's internal microphone absorbs it. And when you put the lens on your ear it sounds like fan noise.
Hey Dekel. I have to put the lens on my ear, but yes, it’s there. Never realized it before. Read a little about it and the assumption is, that the OIS is the source and it makes sense to me. But strange, that it’s there with OIS turned off. Mmmmhm. We should keep an eye on it. Thanks for the note!
Hey Jay, Thank you for quick responding and for verifying to me that the problem is not just with my lens. Do you happen to have access to other Fuji lenses? To find out if this is happening in other lenses.
@@dekelgabai I have an X-T4 and the noise seems to be coming from the camera. You can try it with the lens removed.
thank you for your review. just wondering how this lens performs closer to 16 mm for landscapes. thank you.
I am not doing landscapes at all, but I did some test shots also in wide angle in the first part of my review. Did you have a look? Thanks for watching...
Eddie Campbell check out the Flickr groups on this lens.Ive posted a bunch of images over the past 4 months. landscapes too. on flickr jmorrell69
@@johnmorrell Thanks very much for your advice and your excellent videos!
The focal lengths on the portraits, were they the crop equivalent or the actual lens focal length?
The APS-C focal length! Thx for watching...
Hmmm........ when you say the 56mm prime is you're favorite for portraits because you can be in close contact with you're model, why not put the 16-80mm on 56mm ?
I would also like to see comparison shots of these two lenses, both on f/4 on 56mm.
edward Hey Edward. Thanks for your comment. My argument was pro 56mm, because there are other Focal lengths like the 90mm (135mm FF) f2 prime, where the distance for me is too far. It was no argument against the 16-80. I should have made this clear...
I thought about comparison shots, but it didn’t feel right during the shootings. Ny focus was on the models, not on the review. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Those photos were great, i'm struggling a little with this lens, mainly as i do street and i use primes, so weird to use the zoom, did you shoot those portraits on manual or AF? - I'd like to improve this side of my photography.
Thanks, Paul. I used the AF, as I do 90% of the time when shooting portraits. I also tried this lens for street and really got some great results. But as you said, it’s strange when you’re used to primes... Thx for watching!
Sigma makes an excellent 56 mm for Fuji and Sony E. It's cheaper.
Agreed. It wasn’t available at the time the video was released.
He sounded like he was told what to say after he showed the photos xD
But „he“ wasn’t. Because nobody is paying him for his opinion. 😉 Thx for watching anyway.
For me, this lens is a disappointment, maybe I had too high expectations, For portraits and handheld it gives me blurry images. For video its ok but by 30 fps 60 shutter it gives ghosting when the subject moves his head a bit faster, so unexpectable for shooting video clips. Comparing with 16mm f1,4 it is a disappointing product. I am thinking about selling it and getting some other sharper zoom for hybrid shooting, what would you recommend?
Maybe you should let Fuji have a look at your lens, I never have blurry images with it, the 6 stops OIS works great. And I don't use it for video a lot...
@@Jayshooter_photo It also makes high pitched sound, is it normal?
It’s the OIS maybe.