You also probably needed to test this with electronic or efc shutter, (or OIS off on tripod) because before firmware update the corner sharpness was affected by shutter shock in resolution with mechanical + higher shutter speeds.
My two cents: I agree with everything you say in the video. People (including myself) want perfection when pixel peeping, but when looking at images and videos “globally” I love this lens! It’s amazing how big of a difference 16 is vs 18. I love your videos. Have a great 2024.
I've watched tons of reviews on this lens, right here on RUclips. This is hands-down the best one. Factual, concise, clear, narrated very well. Add 1 to your subscriber count and keep up the good work. Thank you.
Dustin do you find these reviews fun? They're so thorough that they seem like hard work! We do really appreciate it though - the best camera equipment reviewer on RUclips!
I have the 16-80 along with the 18-55 and the 16-55 for use on my X-T4. The 16-80 is a great lens for photography. Not so much for video though. Problem is loss of focus when zooming in and out. The lens hunts when zooming. It is very noticeable in video mode. I use the 18-55 for video as its linear focus motor is less prone to hunt when zooming in and out. I use the 16-55 for times when I want the very best image quality. The other two lenses are really good....the 16-55 is exceptional. The 16-80 is on my X-T4 about 50% of the time for photography. I use my prime lenses occasionally. The 16-55 is on when I am concerned about carrying around several prime lenses or do not want to change lenses for whatever reason. The 18-55 is the one I use for video. It is a great video lens.
I always enjoy your factual reviews combined with your pleasant voice. I'm from Germany so it's just funny to see a 10 Mark Schein on your resolution test chart 😊
Great review. Thank you. I got this lens last month and I am very happy with the results and flexibility it provides. It might not be perfect but it is a very good option for traveling unburdened by a bagful of lenses.
I agree totally :) even I don't like the distortion at 16mm and it has the same blur/zoom problems during video like this 16-80 F4. I did a video about it and it's a common Fuji lenses problem, sadly.
@@drs-Rigo-Reus According to you. The extra range, does not make it better than the 18 to 55mm (OIS) f 2.8, which is not a 'KIT' lens, but sold bundled according to Fuji. The XH 1 is not superior to the X T3, in any way even with OIS! The specs tell you that. If you never shot with an X T3, especially video, you're missing something special.
Hi Dustin, I immediatelly noticed that 10 DM Bill you have used for Testing Image Quality ... that is the "old" German Currency until the Euro came out in 2002. I belive its the prettiest Bill out of the old Deutsche Mark Currency. It shows the "Gorch Fock" which is the Sailing Vessel for training German Marine. It is curently under rebuilding and will train young Sailors in the Future again. Its a Beauty! Oh, and nice Video, as always! Regards, Marc
Thanks Dustin, i have some Fuji lenses but your serious review just convinced me: this 16-80mm f4 will soon complete the excellent/light 70-300mm when travelling. I keep my 16-55/50-140 and luminous primes (50mm f1.0, 23mm f1.4, 16mm f1.4) for specific purposes/photography outings. Already a subscriber (content & form).
Dustin, I've been watching a ton of your videos and reading a lot of your reviews as well, everything from the Canon 24-105mm F/4, Sony 18-105mm F4, Nikon 24-120 F4, Tamron 17-70 F/2.8 and the Fuji 18-120 F/4. All of these lenses are 'general' purpose and OFTEN come up as great travel lenses. There is ONE lens that you nor anyone other reputable camera guy has reviewed; the Olympus 12-100mm F/4 IS Pro... its a 24-200mm F/4 Full Frame equivalent with apparently razor sharp images. Only the Fuji 18-120 comes somewhat close, but is still 3mm less wide and 20mm shorter. Do you have any experience or thoughts on the Olympus? Trying to debate what camera and lens to get that gives low noise at high ISO in a small package with a do-it-all lens.
At the end of the day, what kind of sense does a zoom with 80 mm at the telephoto end make when the quality degrades to the extent that it's not better than an enlarged crop from an image shot at 50 mm? That said, I have 4 copies of the 18-55 f2.8-4 and they good only at shorter distances, but terrible when focused towards infinity. With extreme sample variation. 2 out of my 4 copies are absolutely inacceptable for landscapes on the 26 MP sensor.
i really enjoy watching your reviews, both entertaining and educational. you definitely surpassed the 10,000 hours rule, expert in front and behind camera.
I don’t get the obsession with corner to corner sharpness. There are so many other things that are more important in making a photo that is appealing. Even Leica doesn’t make perfectly sharp lenses
Hi Dustin, great review! Due to this (and others) I have bought this lens, only mine is making a sort of whirring sound, is that something you've experienced as well? If I put it on the table, it does not stop, I'd expect it to be the IOS that should stop when placed on a tripod (or table).
I would be interested in seeing a comparison between this lens and a 24-105, full frame equivalent. Fujifilm advertises that this lens is more compact and lighter than a full frame equivalent lens. But I'm wondering if it's similar in image quality and such.
Doing such a comparison is a little tough for the simple reason that you bring sensor variations into the equation. That being said, it would depend which 24-105 you are comparing to. It's as good as some, not as good as others.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for replying. Yes, different systems, but that also makes it interesting to see what the differences are, if you want this type of lens, when you're deciding between a FF system or this APS-C system from Fuji. I'm a FF shooter and have the Canon 24-105 original lens. The Fuji system is appealing to me due to its size and weight. But I'm not exactly sure what I can expect if I want to buy the 16-80 and an X-T camera with their best sensor.
Thanks! I have been watching your reviews for a while now and has subscribed. You are nicely detailed without overbearing! One question I have. How was you able to get the lens to fade the backgrounds on several of your shots? It might sound like a beginners question and I am not a pro but I purchased this lens as a kit and tried to blur backgrounds on several photos and cannot.
Shoot at the longer end of the focal range and think of this ratio: the closer you are to your subject, and the further the background is away, the more blurred out the background will be.
Just wanted to say thank you for this review! It's worth a lot since it puts things into context. As you may know, DPReview and Christopher Frost also reviewed the lens and their findings - at their core - are pretty close to your findings. But their reviews sounded very different to your's. They didn't put things into context and focused on the flaws of the lens. It's like "the lens is not sharp at this point" and "there is a lot of vignetting there" and so on... it sounded very negativ... When I watched these review I thought to my self that these things have to be expected from a lens like this. Back in the day my Canon 24-105 F4 had the same issues and all I know about the Sony 24-105 and the Nikon 24-120 they do to. And I figured that a 16-80 lens is probably harder to design than a 24-105. Yet, all these negative sounding reviews filled me with doubt and I'm thank full to you for putting these "flaws" into context.
Interesting feedback. I do think it is important to evaluate a lens relative its realistic place in the market. A lens like this is not going to compete with the sharpest prime lenses, but represents the ability to do a lot of things well enough to make it worthwhile as a general purpose lens for a lot of photographers.
Dustin Abbott Thank you for your reply. I actually have wish: I finished my second trip with the 16-80 and I am very pleased. My primary lenses on both trips were the 35 F1.4 and the 18mm F2. The 16-80 is basically my do all the Rest lens. When I went through my pictures I noticed that more than 90 percent of all pictures taken with the 16-80 are F5.6, F8 or higher. Now I wonder if the constant F4 aperture is really worth it for travel. I use the 16-55 and the 50-140 for work. Because of this I wanted to ask you if you could review the 18-135 and compare it to the 16-80. Since I basically never use the F4 aperture I‘m thinking about trading it for the extra reach of the 18-135. Thank you in advance!
I'm a beginer to photography and I'm planning to get a Fuji XS-10 (has IBIS) for general travel photography. I do want to take good portraits as well. So for this do you suggest the 18-55 or 18-80? Also on a side note, if I were to get a non stabilized lens (like a 16-55) would the IBIS compensate for it?
I have an XT4, which has IBIS. Therefore, does the OIS of the 16-80mm matter? Will it give extra stops? Or can I expect the same performance if I were to use the 16-55?
Hey Dustin. Great review. I am looking at adding a zoom of this range to my collection. I have the 10-24 f4, and the 35mm f1.4 on a xt4. My question, this of the 16-55? How much am I really losing between 55-80 range? I do like a nice bokeh in my travel street photos, but sometimes a bit of reach is a life saver.
How does it compare to the 18-135 in terms of image quality? There’s a significant (and understandable) drop in IQ from the 16-55 to the 18-135. Is there less of a drop in IQ with this lens? A little less? A lot less?
I haven't yet reviewed the 18-135, but I suspect this lens is almost certainly sharper. That's been my experience with every such comparison between lenses with these focal ranges and attributes thus far.
Thanks for the review! I am strongly considering getting the new Fuji X-S10 camera, however I’m new to the camera world so I don’t know what lense to get with it. Also, I will shoot video mostly, so quality in film is my priority. My two options are the 18-55 F2.8-4 and the 16-80 F4. I have read that the 16-80mm has a wobble focus issue when zooming, which of the two lenses would you recommend getting (specifically for video shooting)? I’m really analyzing it because its only a $100 difference between both lenses!
Hi Alfonso, I review mostly with photography in mind, so I can't comment on the "wobble" issue while zooming and shooting video. I would still lean towards the 16-80 for the increase versatility.
of all the intel that i have gotten over the last week or so on the subject, the 16-80 is much better between the two kit lenses offered. fyi - used 18-55 kit is selling for about $320ish in excellent condition and in average condition around $270. if it's beat up you may get less than 200 for it
Helpful. Thank you. I am finally going to add this lens to my mix. I do not own a zoom lens. I do have the 80mm/f2.8. It is wonderful but big, heavy and not a lens getting much use. Regards....Wayne
Hi Ed, I'm not sure the relevance of a Zeiss issue. This lens is far from a good Zeiss lens optically. All that matters, though, is that you like the lens. Just enjoy it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI You missed my point! I did not say it's a Zeiss lens but stated that is your opinion, not fact! I own Zeiss too and ALL lenses have issues, not one is perfect.
Hi Dustin, I'm undecided between Tamron 17-70mm / Fuji 16-80mm to use with the X-T4. I usually take photos ( Portrait / Landscape / Food ) for hobby purposes . I don't shoot any videos. I wanted to get your opinion. Thank you .
Great content. What fuji would you say it’s closer to the Canon 24-70? I am looking for a Fuji for event/portrait like the Canon. Any suggestions. Thank you
Thanks for the review - a question if you had to choose between this lens Fuji 16-80 and the canon RF 24-240 - which where I live are about the same price - which one would you choose? I have both a canon and Fuji camera body and am looking at where best to add a lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWI That's great, thanks, that is exactly what I did - I figured if nothing else it would help me decide which focal length of fuji 1.4 prime to purchase. When I eventually purchase canon I think I will buy the 24-105 or 70-200 .
Hi Dustin...Great review on this lens. I was wondering which long focal length zoom would you recommend for wildlife photography keeping in mind portability. I'm getting the Fuji X-S10. I' m open to 3rd party lenses as well. Thanks for your video.
So I can take away from your video that if I go on vacation to shoot lens acuity charts that this lens is not the first choice for me. Which one should I take? Also, If perhaps I take the actual varity of subjects that one usually does on vacation wouldn't the 16-80 actually be a good choice? I wonder what all the chart photos have to do with the real image making esperience.
Hi Peter, I think you are ignoring the fact that I not only show many real world images, but that my comments are based upon them as well. I do think this is a good vacation lens; I think the 16-55mm F2.8, to me, is better. Better image quality, better acuity, and I personally value the F2.8 aperture over the extra 25mm. That may not be true for you.
hi dustin, very good detailed video . This year i purchased a fuji XH-1 . i shoot portraits, lifestyle and landscape sometimes. Between 16-55 f2.8 and 16-80 f4 which would you advice me to go with? i m confused on performance on my xh1 ,as it has IBIS should i combine with 16-55 or should i opt for 16-80's OIS?
Hello Dustin, thanks for your review. You mentioned that the lens is not ideal for portraits compared to some fuji (primes). Not to be blunt but I think that it goes without saying that the 56 1.2 (for example) is better at portraiture. That said though I do think the resolution and details rendered by this lens is quite remarkable, even excellent for a zoom lens!
Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree. I didn't find the rendering of facial details to be very good at F4, which is a very small aperture compared to many portrait lenses.
The 18 to 55mm f 2.8 is not a KIT lens according to FUJI because it is sold in a bundle and It came very close to receiving a RED tag! With the recent 3.20 firmware update, maybe it should.
if it were sharp at 16mm and good for landscapes I might have purchased this as my part-time "landscape lens" that doubles as a versatile zoom lens. However I've heard it's not so good at 16mm... that true?
Well, you can see pretty exactly how good it is in this review. But no, I don't think it is a top tier lens optically. The 16-55mm F2.8 is definitely better.
is it on at least par with 18-55 within the 18-55 zoom range? The point is I wanted to have a WR standard zoom for travel (rain, tropical forest etc), 16-55 is too heavy (if it had OIS I would consider it - have xe3 and xt3) and the 18-55 is ok but not WR...
Hello friends ... I want to ask you wihch lens should buy for fuji xt-30 Fujinon XF 18-135mm or Fujifilm Fujinon XF 16-80mm f/4 R OIS WR regardless the cost . I need the sharper . thanx
Hi, How to get in Shutter priority (auto Aperture) on fuji X-T3 while using XC lens? Since they don't have aperture ring on lens and f" is controlled over by command dial. Unlike Sony/ Nikon Fujifilm doesn't have PSAM mode selection. Or is it that, XC lenses (e.g. 35mm f.2) can not be used in shutter priority?
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you. The lenses without aperture ring can be controlled by command dial. However to control the camera in Shutter priority the solution is : to set the aperture control as AUTO or AUTO+Manual. Then turn the command dial to extreme aperture (say 22). It will take the aperture set to auto. One can then use the S" priority. after a few exchange of chats with Stephen Lee on Channel Theoria Apophasis. thank to him and to you for replying
@@DustinAbbottTWI That doesn't answer my question. The X-T4 has IBIS. Why would the 2 kit lenses offered with this camera also have OIS. Optical Image Stabilization. I assume you can't use lens OIS and IBIS at the same time
@@bh9262 I'm pretty sure you can in fact use both. Lens stabilisation is usually much better - but the IBIS is especially useful for all the older lenses.
I'll evaluate that new firmware, but in past firmware updates I feel like Fuji has slightly oversold the AF (particularly eye AF) improvements. I'm hoping they've figured it out better this time.
Great review, thank you. I’m going to pre order the new X-S10 which has IBIS. Seriously in doubt between the 16-80 and the 16-55. For a general purpose walk around and travel lens, which one would you recommend?
@@DustinAbbottTWI gave this some more thought. The main reason for choosing the x-s10 over the x-t4 is its weight and that it is more compact camera that is easy to grab and bring along. The 16-55 2.8 is clearly the superior lens but the size and weight go less well in combination with the x-s10 and kind of defeats the purpose of what I was going for. So, I have decided to go with one of the kit lenses instead and with the money saved get 2 primes. Question is should I ho for the 18-55 or the 16-80. Size and weight are quite comparable and there is only €100 price difference when you get them in a kit with the camera. I know you reviewed both. Which one do you prefer and would you recommend?
@@patrick-resendiz In the meantime I have got the X-S10 with the 16-80 F4. I am quite happy with the camera. Haven’t used to zoom all that much, have mainly shot with the two primes I got. The few times that I have used the 16-80 I have been pleased with the results. Balance is nice with the X-S10.
i don't wonderland fuji corporation, propose 16/55 2,8 quality and bigger comparatively the body and 16/80 4 so so. they don't think about 16/55 F4 smaller and quality ????
Thanks for this video, it provided all the information I was looking for and more. Looks like a great all round lens, I think the falloff in sharpness towards the edges is to be expected really, if I wanted ultimate image quality I’d pick up a set of primes but this looks like it would be a great addition to my newly acquired X-T1. I’m trying to weigh up if this lens is worth the extra over a 18-55, both would be used lenses and I’m swaying towards to 16-80, looks like it’s still pretty strong around the 50mm mark where the 18-55 seems to start getting soft, the bit of extra at either end would be useful too.
im having such a hard time deciding if i even want either of the kit lenses when i get my XT4. ( im coming from sony a6400 world not from an xt3.) the fuji 16-55 2.8 is obviously a very nice choice, and i may want to get THAT instead of either kit offering. However, the 16-80 "all around lens" is discounted a good bit if i get it with the dang camera. Just not sure it's my vibe. hard to decide. definitely getting the fuji 16mm 1.4 and maybe the viltrox 85mm 1.8. I need a good zoom to start my new camera adventure with the XT4. the sony kit lenses aren't that good. I understand Fuji's kits to be much better, but i ended up not using the sony Kit's after i got other lenses..
My choise: - 16-55 yes!!!! - 16-80 not perfect but pretty good - 18-55 at f2.8, where is my trashcan? Explanation on the 18-55: At f2.8 on the short end 18mm it produces unusable pics in terms on sharpness. Therefore I always have this lens set at a minimum aperture of f5.6 to get some reasonable pics.
I use the 16-55 for my professional work here at home and I bought the 16-80 for traveling. Most of the time I shoot with the 18mm F2 and the 35mm F1.4 anyways but it's nice to have a weather sealed zoom with a little more reach as a backup. About the 18-55mm: I used it for a four week long US road trip last year and I was all but happy. I own the lens since 2017 and so far a had used it for nothing but documentary work and photo journalism and t's good enough for that but as soon as you try to shoot landscapes (even on a low level) it's problems become pretty obvious pretty fast.
@@Audimann I don't even think it's a pure sharpness issue. With all the urban scenery I shot I still am pretty content. But the lens renders noisy subjects like grass or leaves in a terrible fashion.
@@andreasschroder7880I think it is a combination of problems. Contrast could be better also. The 18-55 can produce decent pictures but maybe I am spoiled with the 16-55 and my other Fuji glass😁
did they fix the problems with focus and brightness shifting, while you are zooming in video ? Thats the problem here with exposure (brightness) , even in manual mode ... ruclips.net/video/rsSjZ9yYlOA/видео.html&feature=emb_title
My lens was totally unusable and could only be used for the trash can. It was pretty much the worst lens Fujifilm has ever produced. Test your version before buying!
@@DustinAbbottTWI i was watching a high quality version on a 30inch comp monitor. Look, it's a well made video, and a fine shirt. Heck, maybe its just me, but I found the strobe effect, probably from the youtube compression, very distracting. I'm just trying to give you a heads up with some constructive critique so the next video can be even bettererer :)
Wow, not a single banging image taken. Photography to me should be about emotion and impact first, not once have I seen any of this in this review. I’ve seen better on an iPhone 6 🤣
This video states that Fuji uses their Linear Motors (LM), but it appears that they have used a stepping motor instead.
You also probably needed to test this with electronic or efc shutter, (or OIS off on tripod) because before firmware update the corner sharpness was affected by shutter shock in resolution with mechanical + higher shutter speeds.
My two cents: I agree with everything you say in the video. People (including myself) want perfection when pixel peeping, but when looking at images and videos “globally” I love this lens! It’s amazing how big of a difference 16 is vs 18. I love your videos. Have a great 2024.
There's no question that 16mm vs 18mm makes a pretty radical difference.
I've watched tons of reviews on this lens, right here on RUclips. This is hands-down the best one. Factual, concise, clear, narrated very well. Add 1 to your subscriber count and keep up the good work. Thank you.
That's great feedback. Thanks!
Dustin do you find these reviews fun? They're so thorough that they seem like hard work! We do really appreciate it though - the best camera equipment reviewer on RUclips!
There are parts of it that I enjoy more than others, but overall I enjoy the process. I have a genuine interest in lens design and performance.
@@DustinAbbottTWI In Dustin we trust!
I have the 16-80 along with the 18-55 and the 16-55 for use on my X-T4. The 16-80 is a great lens for photography. Not so much for video though. Problem is loss of focus when zooming in and out. The lens hunts when zooming. It is very noticeable in video mode. I use the 18-55 for video as its linear focus motor is less prone to hunt when zooming in and out. I use the 16-55 for times when I want the very best image quality. The other two lenses are really good....the 16-55 is exceptional. The 16-80 is on my X-T4 about 50% of the time for photography. I use my prime lenses occasionally. The 16-55 is on when I am concerned about carrying around several prime lenses or do not want to change lenses for whatever reason. The 18-55 is the one I use for video. It is a great video lens.
That continues to be the weak point for Fuji's video, as footage and features are otherwise great.
Thank you for all your fuji and canon content ❤️
You're welcome.
I always enjoy your factual reviews combined with your pleasant voice. I'm from Germany so it's just funny to see a 10 Mark Schein on your resolution test chart 😊
Thank you for the nice feedback.
Great review. Thank you.
I got this lens last month and I am very happy with the results and flexibility it provides. It might not be perfect but it is a very good option for traveling unburdened by a bagful of lenses.
That's true.
Exactly, my go to out and about lense.
Danke, für den sehr guten, ausführlichen Testbericht des Fujinon XF16-80mm F4.0, Thank you!!!
You’re welcome
An excellent review for a 40 Year pro Shooter. Bravo Dustin, well done.
Thank you, Eric.
I have the X-H1 with IBIS, so it was an easy choice for me, the 16-55 is superior.
I agree totally :) even I don't like the distortion at 16mm and it has the same blur/zoom problems during video like this 16-80 F4. I did a video about it and it's a common Fuji lenses problem, sadly.
I would agree on that point. The 16-55 is a very good lens, though not flawless.
absolutely. If we are to believe these reviews, 16-55 is surely, absolutely is the best lens ever made.........
@@drs-Rigo-Reus According to you. The extra range, does not make it better than the 18 to 55mm (OIS) f 2.8, which is not a 'KIT' lens, but sold bundled according to Fuji. The XH 1 is not superior to the X T3, in any way even with OIS! The specs tell you that. If you never shot with an X T3, especially video, you're missing something special.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Can I use the Canon 24-70 L II instead and have better results? also save me spending the extra money?
Your reviews are really ... sharp! Great job
Thank you!
Hi Dustin,
I immediatelly noticed that 10 DM Bill you have used for Testing Image Quality ... that is the "old" German Currency until the Euro came out in 2002.
I belive its the prettiest Bill out of the old Deutsche Mark Currency.
It shows the "Gorch Fock" which is the Sailing Vessel for training German Marine.
It is curently under rebuilding and will train young Sailors in the Future again.
Its a Beauty!
Oh, and nice Video, as always!
Regards, Marc
Thanks. It is a lovely bill.
Thanks Dustin, i have some Fuji lenses but your serious review just convinced me: this 16-80mm f4 will soon complete the excellent/light 70-300mm when travelling. I keep my 16-55/50-140 and luminous primes (50mm f1.0, 23mm f1.4, 16mm f1.4) for specific purposes/photography outings. Already a subscriber (content & form).
Glad I could help!
You said that it is good for video. Let me add: if you do not zoom, because it is not parfocal, i.e., it loses focus while zooming.
I've yet to see a Fuji lens that zooms well. There's typically warping plus obvious refocusing.
Dustin, I've been watching a ton of your videos and reading a lot of your reviews as well, everything from the Canon 24-105mm F/4, Sony 18-105mm F4, Nikon 24-120 F4, Tamron 17-70 F/2.8 and the Fuji 18-120 F/4. All of these lenses are 'general' purpose and OFTEN come up as great travel lenses. There is ONE lens that you nor anyone other reputable camera guy has reviewed; the Olympus 12-100mm F/4 IS Pro... its a 24-200mm F/4 Full Frame equivalent with apparently razor sharp images. Only the Fuji 18-120 comes somewhat close, but is still 3mm less wide and 20mm shorter. Do you have any experience or thoughts on the Olympus? Trying to debate what camera and lens to get that gives low noise at high ISO in a small package with a do-it-all lens.
Unfortunately I have zero experience with Olympus and can’t give an informed opinion.
At the end of the day, what kind of sense does a zoom with 80 mm at the telephoto end make when the quality degrades to the extent that it's not better than an enlarged crop from an image shot at 50 mm?
That said, I have 4 copies of the 18-55 f2.8-4 and they good only at shorter distances, but terrible when focused towards infinity. With extreme sample variation. 2 out of my 4 copies are absolutely inacceptable for landscapes on the 26 MP sensor.
I'm hoping their new 16-50mm zoom will be better.
i really enjoy watching your reviews, both entertaining and educational. you definitely surpassed the 10,000 hours rule, expert in front and behind camera.
Thanks, Neil. There are some things that are getting a little easier :)
Thanks for a very thorough revieW! Very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
I don’t get the obsession with corner to corner sharpness. There are so many other things that are more important in making a photo that is appealing. Even Leica doesn’t make perfectly sharp lenses
That's fine, though your preference is not a universal one.
Hi Dustin, great review! Due to this (and others) I have bought this lens, only mine is making a sort of whirring sound, is that something you've experienced as well? If I put it on the table, it does not stop, I'd expect it to be the IOS that should stop when placed on a tripod (or table).
I have the Fujifilm XF 50-140 Very Sharp Lens.
Glad you enjoy it.
I would be interested in seeing a comparison between this lens and a 24-105, full frame equivalent. Fujifilm advertises that this lens is more compact and lighter than a full frame equivalent lens. But I'm wondering if it's similar in image quality and such.
Doing such a comparison is a little tough for the simple reason that you bring sensor variations into the equation. That being said, it would depend which 24-105 you are comparing to. It's as good as some, not as good as others.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for replying. Yes, different systems, but that also makes it interesting to see what the differences are, if you want this type of lens, when you're deciding between a FF system or this APS-C system from Fuji. I'm a FF shooter and have the Canon 24-105 original lens. The Fuji system is appealing to me due to its size and weight. But I'm not exactly sure what I can expect if I want to buy the 16-80 and an X-T camera with their best sensor.
@@RonaldBuskens i don't think you can see a difference with canon FF 24/105, but for shur the kilogram is different
I bought it for my next travel to Greece in August - always carrying the 16-55 + 50-140 can get a pain. Arriving Monday. Curious on impression.
I hope you are happy with it.
Have firmware upgrades made any of this issues you bring up better? I have one on order. Thanks for the insightful review.
Unfortunately I test loaners, so I don't usually have a chance to test long term improvements via firmware.
Thanks! I have been watching your reviews for a while now and has subscribed. You are nicely detailed without overbearing! One question I have. How was you able to get the lens to fade the backgrounds on several of your shots? It might sound like a beginners question and I am not a pro but I purchased this lens as a kit and tried to blur backgrounds on several photos and cannot.
Shoot at the longer end of the focal range and think of this ratio: the closer you are to your subject, and the further the background is away, the more blurred out the background will be.
Just wanted to say thank you for this review! It's worth a lot since it puts things into context. As you may know, DPReview and Christopher Frost also reviewed the lens and their findings - at their core - are pretty close to your findings. But their reviews sounded very different to your's. They didn't put things into context and focused on the flaws of the lens. It's like "the lens is not sharp at this point" and "there is a lot of vignetting there" and so on... it sounded very negativ... When I watched these review I thought to my self that these things have to be expected from a lens like this. Back in the day my Canon 24-105 F4 had the same issues and all I know about the Sony 24-105 and the Nikon 24-120 they do to. And I figured that a 16-80 lens is probably harder to design than a 24-105. Yet, all these negative sounding reviews filled me with doubt and I'm thank full to you for putting these "flaws" into context.
Interesting feedback. I do think it is important to evaluate a lens relative its realistic place in the market. A lens like this is not going to compete with the sharpest prime lenses, but represents the ability to do a lot of things well enough to make it worthwhile as a general purpose lens for a lot of photographers.
Dustin Abbott Thank you for your reply. I actually have wish: I finished my second trip with the 16-80 and I am very pleased. My primary lenses on both trips were the 35 F1.4 and the 18mm F2. The 16-80 is basically my do all the Rest lens. When I went through my pictures I noticed that more than 90 percent of all pictures taken with the 16-80 are F5.6, F8 or higher. Now I wonder if the constant F4 aperture is really worth it for travel. I use the 16-55 and the 50-140 for work. Because of this I wanted to ask you if you could review the 18-135 and compare it to the 16-80. Since I basically never use the F4 aperture I‘m thinking about trading it for the extra reach of the 18-135. Thank you in advance!
I'm a beginer to photography and I'm planning to get a Fuji XS-10 (has IBIS) for general travel photography. I do want to take good portraits as well. So for this do you suggest the 18-55 or 18-80? Also on a side note, if I were to get a non stabilized lens (like a 16-55) would the IBIS compensate for it?
I would go for the 16-55. The IBIS covers for stabilization, the 16-55 is the superior lens in every other way.
I have an XT4, which has IBIS. Therefore, does the OIS of the 16-80mm matter? Will it give extra stops? Or can I expect the same performance if I were to use the 16-55?
Hey Dustin. Great review. I am looking at adding a zoom of this range to my collection. I have the 10-24 f4, and the 35mm f1.4 on a xt4. My question, this of the 16-55? How much am I really losing between 55-80 range? I do like a nice bokeh in my travel street photos, but sometimes a bit of reach is a life saver.
I personally like the 16-55 a lot better...particularly on an X-T4 where you are getting IBIS.
Thanks Dustin
How does it compare to the 18-135 in terms of image quality? There’s a significant (and understandable) drop in IQ from the 16-55 to the 18-135. Is there less of a drop in IQ with this lens? A little less? A lot less?
I haven't yet reviewed the 18-135, but I suspect this lens is almost certainly sharper. That's been my experience with every such comparison between lenses with these focal ranges and attributes thus far.
@@DustinAbbottTWI no 18/135 was not sharper
Thanks for the review! I am strongly considering getting the new Fuji X-S10 camera, however I’m new to the camera world so I don’t know what lense to get with it. Also, I will shoot video mostly, so quality in film is my priority. My two options are the 18-55 F2.8-4 and the 16-80 F4. I have read that the 16-80mm has a wobble focus issue when zooming, which of the two lenses would you recommend getting (specifically for video shooting)?
I’m really analyzing it because its only a $100 difference between both lenses!
Hi Alfonso, I review mostly with photography in mind, so I can't comment on the "wobble" issue while zooming and shooting video. I would still lean towards the 16-80 for the increase versatility.
Would you recommend to sell the 18-55 kit lens and buy this instead? worth it? Thanks
To me - yes. I don't particularly like the 18-55.
of all the intel that i have gotten over the last week or so on the subject, the 16-80 is much better between the two kit lenses offered. fyi - used 18-55 kit is selling for about $320ish in excellent condition and in average condition around $270. if it's beat up you may get less than 200 for it
Helpful. Thank you. I am finally going to add this lens to my mix. I do not own a zoom lens. I do have the 80mm/f2.8. It is wonderful but big, heavy and not a lens getting much use. Regards....Wayne
You'll enjoy that flexibility.
Sir, I give this lens a 10 out of 10. Even a 10 grand Zeiss lens has some issues. Thanks for your opinion.
Hi Ed, I'm not sure the relevance of a Zeiss issue. This lens is far from a good Zeiss lens optically. All that matters, though, is that you like the lens. Just enjoy it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI You missed my point! I did not say it's a Zeiss lens but stated that is your opinion, not fact! I own Zeiss too and ALL lenses have issues, not one is perfect.
Hi Dustin, I'm undecided between Tamron 17-70mm / Fuji 16-80mm to use with the X-T4. I usually take photos ( Portrait / Landscape / Food ) for hobby purposes . I don't shoot any videos. I wanted to get your opinion. Thank you .
I think the Tamron is the better lens, myself.
Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
Great content. What fuji would you say it’s closer to the Canon 24-70? I am looking for a Fuji for event/portrait like the Canon. Any suggestions. Thank you
The 16-55 is the best optical alternative.
Would you prefer 16.55 2.8 lense or this one for video purpose. Do not count OIS as an advantage. Especially in terms of autofocus what do you think?
I like the 16-55 better in general. It has much nicer rendering and image quality.
Thanks for the review - a question if you had to choose between this lens Fuji 16-80 and the canon RF 24-240 - which where I live are about the same price - which one would you choose? I have both a canon and Fuji camera body and am looking at where best to add a lens.
Hmmm, that's tough, but I would probably go with the Fuji. I didn't love the Canon lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWI That's great, thanks, that is exactly what I did - I figured if nothing else it would help me decide which focal length of fuji 1.4 prime to purchase. When I eventually purchase canon I think I will buy the 24-105 or 70-200 .
Hi, Dustin. How do you think, does the Fuji 16-80 perform better than Sony 24-105? Thanks
I do not.
I been waiting for this since the day the lens got release. Thank you Mr. Abbott
I'm glad it's finally here for you, then!
Hi Dustin...Great review on this lens. I was wondering which long focal length zoom would you recommend for wildlife photography keeping in mind portability. I'm getting the Fuji X-S10. I' m open to 3rd party lenses as well. Thanks for your video.
A lens like the 70-300mm is probably a good bet.
So I can take away from your video that if I go on vacation to shoot lens acuity charts that this lens is not the first choice for me. Which one should I take? Also, If perhaps I take the actual varity of subjects that one usually does on vacation wouldn't the 16-80 actually be a good choice? I wonder what all the chart photos have to do with the real image making esperience.
Hi Peter, I think you are ignoring the fact that I not only show many real world images, but that my comments are based upon them as well. I do think this is a good vacation lens; I think the 16-55mm F2.8, to me, is better. Better image quality, better acuity, and I personally value the F2.8 aperture over the extra 25mm. That may not be true for you.
hi dustin, very good detailed video . This year i purchased a fuji XH-1 . i shoot portraits, lifestyle and landscape sometimes. Between 16-55 f2.8 and 16-80 f4 which would you advice me to go with? i m confused on performance on my xh1 ,as it has IBIS should i combine with 16-55 or should i opt for 16-80's OIS?
I would definitely go with the 16-55 if you have a body with IBIS.
Hello Dustin, thanks for your review. You mentioned that the lens is not ideal for portraits compared to some fuji (primes). Not to be blunt but I think that it goes without saying that the 56 1.2 (for example) is better at portraiture. That said though I do think the resolution and details rendered by this lens is quite remarkable, even excellent for a zoom lens!
Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree. I didn't find the rendering of facial details to be very good at F4, which is a very small aperture compared to many portrait lenses.
@@DustinAbbottTWI That is okay, perhaps your expectations are higher
After seeing this review my question is... How did 100 drachmas end up on your test chart?!
I've been adding a number of old bills to my test chart from around the world to give it something unique.
would this be good for wedding photo use?
Okay. It's not amazingly sharp, and I typically like at least F2.8 for indoor event work, but you could make it work, I guess.
The 18 to 55mm f 2.8 is not a KIT lens according to FUJI because it is sold in a bundle and It came very close to receiving a RED tag! With the recent 3.20 firmware update, maybe it should.
That's disingenuous. Any lens that is commonly packaged with cameras is a "kit lens". Being a kit lens is not a pejorative.
if it were sharp at 16mm and good for landscapes I might have purchased this as my part-time "landscape lens" that doubles as a versatile zoom lens. However I've heard it's not so good at 16mm... that true?
Well, you can see pretty exactly how good it is in this review. But no, I don't think it is a top tier lens optically. The 16-55mm F2.8 is definitely better.
Will this be great in street photography ?
It would work fine.
is it on at least par with 18-55 within the 18-55 zoom range? The point is I wanted to have a WR standard zoom for travel (rain, tropical forest etc), 16-55 is too heavy (if it had OIS I would consider it - have xe3 and xt3) and the 18-55 is ok but not WR...
I think it is, yes.
Hello friends ... I want to ask you wihch lens should buy for fuji xt-30 Fujinon XF 18-135mm or
Fujifilm Fujinon XF 16-80mm f/4 R OIS WR regardless the cost . I need the sharper . thanx
I haven't tested the 18-135mm, though conventional wisdom says the smaller zoom range will deliver the better optics.
How is this at 70-75mm? Is there much improvement vs 80mm?
I didn't see a major difference.
Hi, How to get in Shutter priority (auto Aperture) on fuji X-T3 while using XC lens? Since they don't have aperture ring on lens and f" is controlled over by command dial. Unlike Sony/ Nikon Fujifilm doesn't have PSAM mode selection. Or is it that, XC lenses (e.g. 35mm f.2) can not be used in shutter priority?
The channel to ask is "the Fuji Guys". They were more seriously invested in Fuji than most of us.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you. The lenses without aperture ring can be controlled by command dial. However to control the camera in Shutter priority the solution is : to set the aperture control as AUTO or AUTO+Manual. Then turn the command dial to extreme aperture (say 22). It will take the aperture set to auto. One can then use the S" priority.
after a few exchange of chats with Stephen Lee on Channel Theoria Apophasis.
thank to him and to you for replying
Interesting Fujifilm packaged OIS lenses with the X-T4. What is the thought process there?
Because having IBIS has become the mirrorless standard. You have to do this to remain competitive.
@@DustinAbbottTWI That doesn't answer my question. The X-T4 has IBIS. Why would the 2 kit lenses offered with this camera also have OIS. Optical Image Stabilization. I assume you can't use lens OIS and IBIS at the same time
@@bh9262 I'm pretty sure you can in fact use both. Lens stabilisation is usually much better - but the IBIS is especially useful for all the older lenses.
Probably with the new firmware in XT3 and of cours in XT4 the lens will be better.
I'll evaluate that new firmware, but in past firmware updates I feel like Fuji has slightly oversold the AF (particularly eye AF) improvements. I'm hoping they've figured it out better this time.
Great review, thank you. I’m going to pre order the new X-S10 which has IBIS. Seriously in doubt between the 16-80 and the 16-55. For a general purpose walk around and travel lens, which one would you recommend?
That depends on your priorities. I personally liked the 16-55 better, and the fact that you are buying a camera with IBIS makes that doubly true.
@@DustinAbbottTWI gave this some more thought. The main reason for choosing the x-s10 over the x-t4 is its weight and that it is more compact camera that is easy to grab and bring along. The 16-55 2.8 is clearly the superior lens but the size and weight go less well in combination with the x-s10 and kind of defeats the purpose of what I was going for. So, I have decided to go with one of the kit lenses instead and with the money saved get 2 primes. Question is should I ho for the 18-55 or the 16-80. Size and weight are quite comparable and there is only €100 price difference when you get them in a kit with the camera. I know you reviewed both. Which one do you prefer and would you recommend?
@@jberenden would also like to know. I think he said in another comment he prefers the 16-80 over the 18-55.
@@patrick-resendiz In the meantime I have got the X-S10 with the 16-80 F4. I am quite happy with the camera. Haven’t used to zoom all that much, have mainly shot with the two primes I got. The few times that I have used the 16-80 I have been pleased with the results. Balance is nice with the X-S10.
@@jberenden awesome. Which primes did you get. I was leaning towards either the combo of Fuji 23/50 f2 or the Viltrox 23/56 f1.4.
Would you recommend this lense or 16-55 f2.8 for all round purposes?
I like the 16-55 better myself, and doubly so if you have the X-T4 with IBIS.
@@DustinAbbottTWI yeah im a long time nikon user but now seriously thinking to purchase xt4...still undecided about the lense tho...
i don't wonderland fuji corporation, propose 16/55 2,8 quality and bigger comparatively the body and 16/80 4 so so. they don't think about 16/55 F4 smaller and quality ????
It's probably unlikely that they would deliver a fourth lens covering essentially the same focal length.
Thanks for this video, it provided all the information I was looking for and more.
Looks like a great all round lens, I think the falloff in sharpness towards the edges is to be expected really, if I wanted ultimate image quality I’d pick up a set of primes but this looks like it would be a great addition to my newly acquired X-T1.
I’m trying to weigh up if this lens is worth the extra over a 18-55, both would be used lenses and I’m swaying towards to 16-80, looks like it’s still pretty strong around the 50mm mark where the 18-55 seems to start getting soft, the bit of extra at either end would be useful too.
I personally would go with this lens over the 18-55. You get a wider FOV on the wide end and more telephoto reach with little loss of quality.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for your reply and valuble insight, hope you had a lovely Christmas.
Hmm I wonder how the details of these images would be if they were converted using Capture One.
I've done a few comparisons in the past, and frankly, I didn't see much of a difference. I do own Capture One.
im having such a hard time deciding if i even want either of the kit lenses when i get my XT4. ( im coming from sony a6400 world not from an xt3.) the fuji 16-55 2.8 is obviously a very nice choice, and i may want to get THAT instead of either kit offering. However, the 16-80 "all around lens" is discounted a good bit if i get it with the dang camera. Just not sure it's my vibe. hard to decide. definitely getting the fuji 16mm 1.4 and maybe the viltrox 85mm 1.8. I need a good zoom to start my new camera adventure with the XT4. the sony kit lenses aren't that good. I understand Fuji's kits to be much better, but i ended up not using the sony Kit's after i got other lenses..
This is a good choice, though the 16-55 is a better one with the X-T4 coming with IBIS.
thanks help a lot
Glad it helped
FYI lens is F4 throughout the zoom range -- not F2.8 at 16mm
I think you may have mistook a reference to the 16-55mm.
My choise:
- 16-55 yes!!!!
- 16-80 not perfect but pretty good
- 18-55 at f2.8, where is my trashcan?
Explanation on the 18-55: At f2.8 on the short end 18mm it produces unusable pics in terms on sharpness. Therefore I always have this lens set at a minimum aperture of f5.6 to get some reasonable pics.
That would be my order as well.
I use the 16-55 for my professional work here at home and I bought the 16-80 for traveling. Most of the time I shoot with the 18mm F2 and the 35mm F1.4 anyways but it's nice to have a weather sealed zoom with a little more reach as a backup. About the 18-55mm: I used it for a four week long US road trip last year and I was all but happy. I own the lens since 2017 and so far a had used it for nothing but documentary work and photo journalism and t's good enough for that but as soon as you try to shoot landscapes (even on a low level) it's problems become pretty obvious pretty fast.
@@andreasschroder7880 Indeed. Most of the problems occur at landscapes with the 18-55.
@@Audimann I don't even think it's a pure sharpness issue. With all the urban scenery I shot I still am pretty content. But the lens renders noisy subjects like grass or leaves in a terrible fashion.
@@andreasschroder7880I think it is a combination of problems. Contrast could be better also. The 18-55 can produce decent pictures but maybe I am spoiled with the 16-55 and my other Fuji glass😁
16 to 55m bad in the corners....not good, not godglas.
It does soften up some in the corners...like this lens.
did they fix the problems with focus and brightness shifting, while you are zooming in video ?
Thats the problem here with exposure (brightness) , even in manual mode ... ruclips.net/video/rsSjZ9yYlOA/видео.html&feature=emb_title
I didn't notice that problem, but I'm not exactly sure if I replicated that circumstance.
Performance at 80 mm is weak. What a shame.
It's unfortunate - but I've yet to be thoroughly impressed with any of Fuji's zooms.
casually ignores 18-135 in the intro
I haven't tested it, so I can't really give strong feedback on a lens that I'm not familiar with.
My lens was totally unusable and could only be used for the trash can. It was pretty much the worst lens Fujifilm has ever produced. Test your version before buying!
Wow - that doesn't sound good!
13:20 Less experience than myself. More like zero experience.
Eye AF should eliminate the need for a lot of experience, however. It should naturally detect and focus on the eye.
thats a great video, but that shirt. it strobes like crazy on my screen
It can exaggerated sometimes by the amount of compression (from 4K source) to your screen size and resolution.
@@DustinAbbottTWI i was watching a high quality version on a 30inch comp monitor. Look, it's a well made video, and a fine shirt. Heck, maybe its just me, but I found the strobe effect, probably from the youtube compression, very distracting. I'm just trying to give you a heads up with some constructive critique so the next video can be even bettererer :)
From 14:38 looks like a child drew the lines. Horrible result. Therefore I don’t get this lens.
I'm not sure I connect the dots...
Wow, not a single banging image taken. Photography to me should be about emotion and impact first, not once have I seen any of this in this review. I’ve seen better on an iPhone 6 🤣
Ummm, this is a review of gear, not really a highlight of my photography.
Hi, Dustin. How do you think, does the Fuji 16-80 perform better than Sony 16-70 f4 ? Thanks
I don't think I've tested the Sony 16-70, so I can't answer that.