the full quote is : a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one. I always see content creators only use the 1st part as a negative side, but the full quote is actually a compliment.
As always I need to say it, CUTE KIDS! 💕 And this lens seems to be perfect for travels and for those hobbyists that just need one lens. This and the 18-135mm seem to be the most versatile.
I love your reviews so much, Andrew. Really a big fan of your style, the way you talk and present information. Thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate it!
Been using this lens for over a month on my day hikes and am very happy to have it. I especially plan to use it on long backpacking trips. It’s been an excellent compromise for my need, despite its shortcomings.
Glad to find your channel. I've always shot Canon but just started using an Xt-4 as well. Excited to see all your insights on the Fuji's and their lenses.
Nice, thanks man. I've been watching your videos for quite some time (helped me decide to get X-E3) and I've been checking your channel frequently to see if you've posted a review of the 16-80mm f/4! I trust your opinion and endorsement as I tend to agree with your views 99.99% of the time... so this is great to hear that you've settled on this as your travel lens (as I've been investigating heavily to find which one to get in advance of an upcoming trip)!! Cheers and keep on shooting! :)
Great review and not the least an efficient, entertaining and just pleasant presentation. As always 🙂 If every family's vacation photographs looked like this 😄
Thanks. The info about zooming in video was enlightening for me. It’s something I noticed especially on my 55-200 and thought it was a defect of my copy.
This was a very good real world review Andrew. Keep up the great work. I would like to give m y 2 cents on the zooming and focusing issue you mentioned. As a background, most traditional broadcast cameramen in the '70s and '80s avoided zooming. That's because the British Broadcast Corp (which is their model) consider zooming "unprofessional" and to be used only "as needed". This is also why you will NOT find a lot of zooming in movies, feature films and documentaries. The "preferred" way to shoot video (or film) is to frame a scene, focus and shoot; cut, repeat the same in varying alternate field of views, then edited for flow. In your style of shooting, a vari-focal lens will work in a manual "pre-focused" mode as long as there is sufficient depth of field and not a lot of shifting from the subjects. This problem you mentioned, while it might not be a "par-focal' issue, will happen with lenses designed primarily for photos. The other thing that needs to be understood is you are shooting with a "large sensor" camera. So, the processing it takes to down-scale a large image to video and maintaining focus at the same time is asking a lot from the processor. I mean c'mon, the people that shoot Red, Arriflex, Canon and Sony Cinema cameras don't expect their systems to do this much less do any zooming at all (only for effect), why are we so spoiled to think our measly full-frame and crop sensor cameras will perform better than theirs? If I wanted to capture video scenes with my kids, my iPhone 11 Pro Max will be more consistent focus wise. This not a criticism. I'm just pointing something out that I think needs to be considered. Again, no offense. Peace!
Thank you. I’m looking to pick up a used xt3 combo and to compliment my Sony, because of the heavier codec and 4K 60p. I bought a used 18-105 for my A6000. Again, not the sharpest but ois, unfortunately a power zoom but internally zoomed and no focus wobble...for video..Basically never comes off during the day..very useful.
Optical when it comes to print there is very little difference unless your obsessed with lager apertures and do lots of low light stuff , use both and the same aperture and it’s hard to see a difference in real word usage although I like this lens I prefer the 18-55 and the 18-135 ( all horses for courses )
I was considering buying the 10-24mm as I have the 18-55mm but while watching reviews on Tube of You, I came to the realisation that this lens would serve me better. So I pulled the trigger after finding a used bargain on eBay, will go great with my X-T3, and play well with my X-E3, which I still love.
Thank you for the review! Would love to see side by side comparison photos between the 18-55 and the 16-80. Would make a fantastic "part 2" video. I've seen a bunch of negative comments on the 16-80, but as far as I can tell it's more than good enough for travel and doing reasonably sized prints. I haven't seen anyone show off print quality when using the two lenses at their extremes.
I'm hesitant to do so because of the shape of our 18-55. It's been through a lot over the past few years and I'm pretty sure it's not 100% any more. And I don't really want to invest in a new one for a test.
@@AndrewGoodCamera I think the 18-55 and the 16-80 are quite similar in terms of image quality from what I've seen on youtube. What I'm interested in is how this lens compares to a full frame lens with similar focal lengths like a 24-105. Fujifilm advertises that the 16-80 is more compact and lighter than an equivalent lens for a 35mm format system. Which I really like and therefore (for the most part) I'm interested in changing systems (from Canon to Fuji). I found it's very difficult to find lens comparisons between Canon and Fuji. I understand it's not easy to do so, but perhaps you're interested in making a comparison between the 16-80 and a 24-105 and see what the differences are and what the pros and cons are when changing from full frame to Fuji. Right now I don't really know what to expect. Thanks!
I fully agree with your review. Even if I don’t shoot video, so the wobbling is no issue for me. The conclusion in my own review is the same: Best Fuji lens for travel so far because of its versatility, size and IQ. By the way: I also like it for portraits, if my 56 1.2 is not around. 😉 Keep up your great work! Always a pleasure.
Have had it over a month, I think it's the ultimate getter of shots. Zoom range, close-up, low light, portraits, bokeh, inclement weather, video. I'm honestly thinking about selling all my other lens and keeping this plus the Samyang 12mm f2 and maybe the 50-230.
@@silentvlognatureandphotogr2257 think you could really benefit from the flexibility of the 16-80, 90mm is really too long especially if you want to shoot indoor. That being said 16-80 is also not great indoors because of the slow F4. Can I recommend you have a look instead at the Tamron 17-70 f2.8? Seems to review great.
Hi Andrew, you mentioned about ND filter somewhere in the video. Just thinking, would you be interested to have a dedicated video talking about lens filters? Would love to know more. Thanks! Love your channel.
Defo need this, coming from Canon where I used to own the 15-85. Just beautifully versatile and provides sufficient wide angle. Not digging Fuji's 18-55 that I bought used, unfortunately.
Had mine for 2 months now . Absolutely love it . Sold my 18-55mm as I couldn’t see me using it anymore . I found they were similar IQ and with the xtra reach the 16-80 was the one for me .
@@dalewhitehead7527 Nice, I actually see one for $400 on CL Vancouver right now... but chances are pretty high I'll be going for the 16-80 anyway lol :)
There are finally loads of these available second hand in the $400 range. My 16-55 2.8 soup can stays home too often, I'm hoping this more compact OIS lens gets more use.
I recently picked up the 18-135 (new, since I heard quality control was poor in some of the old copies) for around $615 AUD after Fuji cashback (~$430 USD). It's also weather resistant with good OIS, but has an unmarked aperture ring. Weighs 50g more than the 16-80, but looks to be a similar size. At 80mm the min aperture is around f/5.3 (worse), but at the wide end f/3.5 (slightly better). Yet to really go travelling with it so hope it works out well... Great video as usual, keep it up :)
I use the xf 18-135mm and I find the performance of it quite predictable, which is not a bad thing, I'll explain. All the wide range zoom lenses I've ever used were the same. Always perfectly sharp in the middle of the picture, regardless of the aperture and focal lenght. It's the corners that these zoom lenses, especial super zoom lenses (I consider the 18-135mm range to be super zoom) have issues with because at the very extremes, for instance 18mm a lot of in camera corections are pressent to fight the barrel distortion of the glass and on the very telephoto end at for instance 135mm the issue goes the other way around (pincushion distortion). It's the camera straightening the image that causes the corner softness in these two very extremes of a lens such as 18-135mm. That being said stopping the lens down mitigates a lot of these optical issues. My copy of the xf 18-135mm is the happiest at f/8 to f/10, even at the very wide and/or telephoto end. Slower aperture is where the OIS comes into play, by the way and this lens has amazing OIS. Anything between 35mm and 100mm then is nice regardless of the aperture.
Firmware update 1.05 and still the focus issue with video zoom is present. ( September 2021) Using a Fuji X-T4 and all recent firmware updates for camera and lens. I use manual focus for video....but if you want or need auto focus: Better to get a linear motor lens that is made for video. The 16-80 is good if you do not zoom in or out using autofocus. If you want a great video lens, then the 16-55, 18-135 or the 55-200 is probably a better bet . Look for the LM designation. The 16-80 is an excellent still photography lens. Video zoom using auto focus....not so much.
Hi Andrew, it is interesting to see how the 16-80 works on the X-T5 which I have had for a while. I have both the 16-80 & the 16-55 at the moment. The 16-80 seems to work well with the 40mp sensor and appears sharper than on the X-T4. The 16-55 looks the same on both cameras. After testing in various circumstances I am keeping the 16-80. It was great on the earlier XT bodies but is super on the T5. The 16-55 seems a great deal heavier, not just because of the physical weight but it doesn’t balance well on the XT even with the battery grip which makes things feel even heavier. So now just using 10-24, 16-80 and fabulous 75-30O which is stunning on the T5. Keep well.
I had the 16-55 and 50-140 (I bought both used) thinking that this would cover all of the scenarios I would encounter as a prosumer photographer. I found I almost never used the 50-140. In fact I really only used it when I felt guilty about spending a lot of money on it and felt I had to do something to justify having it. It's a long story, but I wound up buying the 10-24 and fell in love with it. That's when I discovered the 16-80. With the X-T5's 40 megapixel sensor, I can shoot at 80mm and crop in pretty tightly. Having the 50-140 just isn't needed. For me the combined range of 10-80 is much more usable than 16-140. The weight and size loss is much more camera bag friendly.
One point I feel is important for people like myself (who haven't shot on anything but smartphones), is that, I don't know which focal lengths I prefer. I'm saving up to buy into the fuji system, and fully intend on getting the 16, 56, and 90 mm lenses, but in which order is beyond me. So something like this sounds wonderful to be able to discover what my preferences are, and buy accordingly.
I think Lightroom has an calculator which can tell you which focal length you had used the most for any given shoot, if you had used a zoom lens. If you don't use it, you can do it yourself with a little help of algebra :-) And in regards of prime lenses you had mentioned, I have and use all of them, 16mm the most, but for portraits you gotta have at least one of other two...
I would probably suggest 16 or 56. 16 is the widest and 90 would give you the greatest zoom. Most likely, you’ll be shooting in a mid range, somewhere between 20-30ish. A zoom lens like this or the 18-55 would be great at covering most of the focal lengths you would need. If you do want to shoot more landscape (wider) shots, then a lens that goes down to 16 or lower would be more beneficial. On the other hand, if you want to do more closeups of things like wildlife, you may need something like 90+.
Do you prefer the 16 - 80 over the 18-135? You can always set your f to 4 on any lens and adjust exposure with other settings. Especially with IBIS in the XT4?
Been watching your videos lately. Having utilized your Fuji lens calculator, 16-80mm came out for the kit lens. And for the prime it's 50mm f2. Now I'm planning to get both lenses together with the xt4 body. Is it redundant to have both lenses as a beginner photographer? If, then what's the best prime lens will you suggest having that kit lens already. Thanks. And btw, you have a lovely family. Love the way you document your travel together. I can resonate in this video as far as family bonding and just having a great adventure together. Cheers!
I’m interested in this lens, but how does it balance and feel on the Fuji xe3? I could use the broader reach in a one-lens solution but don’t want to buy a new camera. Maybe adding a grip would help? It’s difficult to test these options when the nearest camera store is two hours away and they have to special order anything Fuji. Thanks😀
Thanks for a good review with lots of examples. I have been looking at the 18-135mm lens for a travel lens but I might have to take a closer look at this one. Isn't it great when all the kids get potty trained and big enough to take a long trip? Your children are all beautiful and good sports around the camera.
I’d be curious to know how the 18-60mm balances with X-Pro 3 (I assume it was 3, not 2 you were using)? And did you use the extra hand grip with it? Asking because I am going to get X-Pro 3 and found it to balance surprisingly well with some of the heavier Fuji primes. However, I am still on edge when it comes to also selling my G9 and Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 in favor of not having to use two different camera systems and getting a bit more range, although the 12-40mm f2.8 is pretty magical when it comes to optical performance.
I have always been a oly guy but have been thinking about Fuji and now even more that the xt4 is out. But wanted to initially get only one lens to see how it performs against my em1 mkii and pro lenses. It seems this might be the one or else to with a really good ingle prime lens like the 35 or 23 f2 lenses? Thoughts? Or other recommendations? For example how about the 16-55 f2.8
Salut!, Thank ya for your some-isue--thang. :) I search for the same - stand now between 18-135 or 16-80 or 10-24 + 55-200. The focus is just on video, not for photography. So do you think on other bodies like the X-T200 will be the same problem while zooming? So can you recommend objectives, where this zoom-work will work? thank ya.
You think 16-80mm has focussing problems? Try to put 18-135mm on any given Fuji camera and then try either shoot burst while zooming in or out all the way while using continuous auto focus OR try the same while shooting video. Each time any combo I've been using lost focus completely; sometimes I even needed to restart the camera. Those issues on the other hand never appeared while using my 16-55mm f2,8...
How's the autofocus compared to the 18-55mm kit lens? I heard LM lenses are better for video autofocus. I'm currently using Canon but want to switch over to Fuji and I'm not sure which kit lens to get.
On travels I want a wide lens for sunsets, long exposure, I brink samyang 12 f2, for everyday shots 23 or 35 f2.... and some portraits 56, or 90f2 for landscape or portraits. I would take the 18-135 if quality is not a issure.
"Zooming in and out" issues. There's a Monterey Bay channel on youtube, which has lots of very deep sealife videos, and the optics on these underwater vessel's cameras are simply, uncompromised. But what killed me was a fast zoom on some cephalopod. Boom! And the sharpness never wavered. I could only guess what they were using...the best.
As you said in your comments Fuji does have and make Lens especially for video so that’s not the problem. You can shoot video with a Len Designed primarily for still photography which is capable of Shooting video but it’s not the same as a len pacifically design for video. If Fuji 16-80mm Len is good as a video camera Len then users would be complaining about the cost. But I am enjoying your video.
Love the reach of this lens but hate the size - I even find the 18-55 too big since I don't shoot much on the longer end anyway. I wish Fuji made a solid compact zoom like the RX100 or LX100 so I could keep my kit light with a dedicated prime XT shooter and a second small camera for travel/stabilised video in the Fuji ecosystem.
The XC 15-45, it has OIS. I have that lens in a kit for my X-T30 along with the XF 27 and XF 18. These are 3 of Fujifilm's 4 physically smallest lenses. I carry that kit in a padded fanny pack. The other lens in that size class is the new XC 35 f2.
Great presentation, easy to follow and to the point. Question: would you use this lense to shoot friends at a golf tournament? (not professional but need decent quality of group shots and a few swings for a newsletter). Thank you 🙏🏻
I am torn between this n the similar Tamron’s zoom with f2.8. I love the aperture ring on the Fuji n Tamron’s 2.8. I use it mainly to create cinematic video footage so the bigger aperture is better right? But how much better? Hope u can shed some lights. Thx
Lovely family photography. Kindness before cameras, it is said. I'm hanging on to my 16-55 f/2.8, sharp across the range, weather resistant, the total workhorse. Fits best on the slightly larger X-H1. Thanks!
@@ianplaysbass The 16-55 does not have any in-lens stabilization. I try to keep my shutter speed above 1/125 when hand held, and find it's quite sharp for any focal length on the lens.
Anyone using this lens on X-E3 ? I'm very used to the 23mm f/2 WR kit lens and unsure how much larger/heavier the 16-80mm will feel. Of course I can go to a shop and try it, but in advance of making the trip, curious to hear any anecdotes from users with my prospective config! I can actually fit the X-E3 + lens in my vehicle's armrest, it's so compact! Not sure that would be possible with the 16-80 lol
Thanks a lot for your review. Reviews on this lens are a bit of a mixed bag, but I think I will buy it and thus replace my 18-135 travelling lens and possibly also my 18-55. The 16 is more useful for me than the 135 reach. Also like the improved IBIS.
Very nice review as always Andrew. This lens hits the sweet spot for me. I used to own 1655 but found it to be too bulky for traveling and not suitable for handheld travel documentary video. Nevertheless my travel combo was 1655 and couple fast primes. With the 1655 i always had to focus on keeping the footages steady with the means I have. With this lens getting stable footage even at 80mm is so easy. My recommendation for people who are considering this lens. if you have couple primes to pair it with 1680 definitely go 1680 If don’t care about video and dont own any other fuji lens and want to have all in one best zoom for photo choose 1655 If you are a hybrid shooter No question 1680.
HoJoon Kim i have 35 f1.4, 56 f1.2, and an x100f. Deciding to get a good zoom lens was thinking of either 16-55 f2.8 or this 16-80. Which would u recommend
@@lloydcarig9292 Can you elaborate little bit more on your use case scenarios? For example using it for work? or personal Travel? Are you going to shoot video at all? What is your interchangeable lens Fuji body?
HoJoon Kim oh i end up getting a used 16-55. I use an xt2 and i mostly do portraits. I have the x100f as kinda my daily walk around and 35 1.4 for those times where i need something fo those night gatherings. I bought the 16-55 based purely on its reputation. I know that i was getting an excellent lens and when i was checking reviews for the 16-80 it was always a mixed bag so I passed on it
will the lens need to do anything else? How much do you want in focus vs blurred out background? Will it be in autofocus or manual focus? Do you want it wide or tight?
Cool video! I was wondering what body did you use most to shoot while here in Hawaii? I am looking to get a Fuji camera and not sure on the X pro3 and X-T3. Thanks!
90% on the x-t3, but that's because the-pro 3 isn't quite as good for hybrid photo and video. Still plenty capable though. The cameras are nearly identical inside. It's mostly usability and ergonomics that you're deciding between
Have you updated to the latest firmware? Supposedly it improves the focus “tracking” during zooms. I’ve seen one review where it seemed to be much better, albeit not fully eradicated. BTW, big kudos to you for correctly identifying the “wobble” root cause as varifocal design, with firmware and motors trying their best to mimic parfocal “by wire”. I think it is akin to barrel distortion and vignetting corrections in firmware. These are all compromises to allow optimization of other design aspects. I’ve watched just about every RUclips video on the 16-80, and I think you’re the first one to understand/explain it correctly. Also, happy new year to you and your family!
Great review. I have the 10-24 but hardly use it and considering a lens that would be an excellent travel lens, handle landscapes and be great for family shots when back out and about. I used to have the canon 28-105 stuck to my old crop dslr and kind of missing that type of range. I have mostly primes now but if you're on a break with the family I miss that flexibility in zoom and don't want my 55-200 all the time (missing out the wider shots). I was thinking this, the 18-55 or 18-135. Any thoughts on this vs those lenses?
I enjoyed this review more than most that I've watched because it was centered on actual use, not on pixel-peeping. One of the reviews I watched had this comment: If someone is complaining that your photos aren't sharp in the corners, there is probably something that isn't very good in the center. I think sharpness is overrated. If you're a professional photographer that makes a living on your photos, I can see that you would have requirements that include super-sharpness. For prosumers who are striving for interesting photos and lots of options for photo editing, my guess is that the 16-80 have be more than enough sharpness. I previously had the Red Badge 16-55 and replaced it with the 16-80. It sacrifices the f/2.8 for the benefit of longer zoom range and being perceptibly lighter and better balanced on my X-T5. I tried the 18-55 kit lens for a while and was really disappointed in it. The color that comes through the 16-80 is excellent vs. muddiness with the 18-55.
Great review, Andrew! Does the 16-55 keep focus better when zooming during video? I'm deciding between the 16-80 and the 16-55. My one concern with the 16-55 is the weight. You said the 16-80 wasn't much heavier than the 18-55, so that helps me decide. Looks like you had a great time in Hawaii.
16-55 keeps focus much better, yes. I really get frustrated with the 16-80 and it's focus sometimes. But I still prefer it, generally, because of the tighter zoom and it can focus closer, which I use a lot for b-roll. And, of course, the size.
Great review. I've been using the 18-135 as my "vacation" lens for when photography isn't the main focus, travel and family are. It's worked quite well for that purpose but I've been intrigued by the newer 16-80. I like the constant aperture, but wonder if I'll miss the extra reach at the telephoto end. Think I'll rent one for a weekend and give it a try.
@@barrymayes6712 I know! I'm surprised at how much I enjoy using the 18-135. I'll let you know after I try out the 16-80 how it goes. Or maybe I'll win the lottery and I can have both, hahahaha!!
@@barrymayes6712 I just got a used 18-135 as I’ve switched to Fuji and am in two minds atm. There have been some not so great reviews and I’m not sure if I have a not so good model (apparently it was a quality control issue so some were great, some not so much). I am trying to trial the one I got so if I’m not happy I can return quickly but not sure the best way to do this. Any ideas from anyone would be most appreciated. It does seem soft in the corners but I’m not sure if it’d still be a good lens for travel as I want some reach without having a huge lens to carry (Sold my 70-200 canon with my other stuff). I’m torn between keeping or looking at the 16-80 however it’s another price jump
@@traceybartlam7737 the Fuji 18-135mm is a stunning lens. Sharp, great colours and good bokeh that’s better than many other zooms by Canon and Nikon. The Bokeh is better than several of Fuji’s other zooms. Pixel peepers might say it’s not Fuji’s sharpest lens. But it’s a zoom lens. Its under rated. If it’s soft at the edges can you actually notice? Does it matter? I used mine at fully open aperture most of the time and loved it. I prefer slightly wider. That’s the only reason I sold it.
@@barrymayes6712 thanks, I’ll test a little more. I love the range but am just concerned because there appeared to be some that weren’t good so need to make sure I’ve got a good one! I’m also learning the Fuji camera so although principles are the same settings etc need to be mastered. So far I am loving the camera.
I just received this lens mostly for video work. But when turning on the camera on the lens makes a decent amount of noise which is quite loudly picked up by the microphone. Is this you experience as well? Turning off the iOS does not matter.
Pretty sure if Panasonic really wanted to implement phase detect on their FF sensors they could. These are cameras for videographers. Keep in mind having phase detect points do impact image quality (albeit to an incredibly small amount). From what I understand it's a decision, not a limitation. And as for my part, I usually manual focus with the S1H and so not usually an issue. This time I was lazy and didn't want to try to nail MF focus alone.
The faster f2.8, 18-55mm would be my first choice, especially for night shots. Having used the x100-f and s before hand, I've no idea why I'd need 80mm. Instead I always attempt to walk closer to my subject as the fixed lens system taught me. But I understand there will be reasons why this is not always possible. Nonetheless, the f2.8 takes some lovely portraits.
YAY! So much fun in Hawaii, eh 'bra? Sure wish you could have seen Maui...so incredibly different than Honolulu or O'ahu...anyway, wow surprised you still went for it with the focus quirk since video is as much as stills for you!...for now, I'm going to keep my 18-55f/2.8-4, it's a pretty darn good lens but find myself using my 16/1.4 and my 55-200 more often. By the way, I rented the 40-150 to see what I was missing...and no, the $1K more wasn't justified. Just the weight and size difference was a deal-breaker for me.
Unfortunate about the varifocal issues. I was really excited about this lens for hybrid shooting as I hated working with the 18-55 for video due to the aperture. Fuji had a chance to make a killer do-it-all video lens like the Canon 24-105, but it seems like they missed the mark. Still on the fence if I'll buy it.
Yeah I agree. It's a huge bummer. Having a constant aperture is very nice. But zooming on Fuji has never been great anyway due to the flicker, so I'm already trying to relearn not to do it at all. In which case, this lens is great.
@@AndrewGoodCamera It still seems like the best Fuji do-it-all, and for that I may still buy it, but I was annoyed with the aperture flicker and varifocal nature of the 18-55, so I was hoping that would've been solved with this lens. Solving both those issues would be a huge win for the X-H1 and X-T3 as true hybrids as there's not much else that fits the bill.
the full quote is : a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one. I always see content creators only use the 1st part as a negative side, but the full quote is actually a compliment.
As always I need to say it, CUTE KIDS! 💕
And this lens seems to be perfect for travels and for those hobbyists that just need one lens. This and the 18-135mm seem to be the most versatile.
I love your reviews so much, Andrew. Really a big fan of your style, the way you talk and present information. Thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate it!
Thank you for your kind words!
Looks like a very versatile lens - Good point about weather resistance- huge bonus for a travel lens
Great work. Love your calm yet thorough way of telling things
Spot on realistic real review about this lens . Happy 2020 all the best to you and family .
Well done review, Andrew. Nicely comprehensive. Looks like you guys had a great time in Hawaii. Glad you’re back safely.
Been using this lens for over a month on my day hikes and am very happy to have it. I especially plan to use it on long backpacking trips. It’s been an excellent compromise for my need, despite its shortcomings.
Glad to find your channel. I've always shot Canon but just started using an Xt-4 as well. Excited to see all your insights on the Fuji's and their lenses.
You just convinced me to add this to my collection! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the good info... and sharing a glimpse of your family vacation! Fun!!
Nice, thanks man. I've been watching your videos for quite some time (helped me decide to get X-E3) and I've been checking your channel frequently to see if you've posted a review of the 16-80mm f/4! I trust your opinion and endorsement as I tend to agree with your views 99.99% of the time... so this is great to hear that you've settled on this as your travel lens (as I've been investigating heavily to find which one to get in advance of an upcoming trip)!! Cheers and keep on shooting! :)
Got this lens a month ago and used it for a whole Haute Couture shoot and it was outstanding.
Great review and not the least an efficient, entertaining and just pleasant presentation. As always 🙂 If every family's vacation photographs looked like this 😄
Thanks. The info about zooming in video was enlightening for me. It’s something I noticed especially on my 55-200 and thought it was a defect of my copy.
Got it yesterday and it will be the only lens I will take with me for holidays
Wonderful review. Your comments were relevant and clear. But the footage of your family really was the icing on this lens review cake! Sweetness.
Thanks Kevin!
Very informative as always, and you guys have such a cute family all together!
Very useful, especially pointing out the video zoom issue, thank you!
Thank you for your review...fabulous!
Great photos and videos...precious family
This was a very good real world review Andrew. Keep up the great work. I would like to give m y 2 cents on the zooming and focusing issue you mentioned. As a background, most traditional broadcast cameramen in the '70s and '80s avoided zooming. That's because the British Broadcast Corp (which is their model) consider zooming "unprofessional" and to be used only "as needed". This is also why you will NOT find a lot of zooming in movies, feature films and documentaries. The "preferred" way to shoot video (or film) is to frame a scene, focus and shoot; cut, repeat the same in varying alternate field of views, then edited for flow. In your style of shooting, a vari-focal lens will work in a manual "pre-focused" mode as long as there is sufficient depth of field and not a lot of shifting from the subjects. This problem you mentioned, while it might not be a "par-focal' issue, will happen with lenses designed primarily for photos. The other thing that needs to be understood is you are shooting with a "large sensor" camera. So, the processing it takes to down-scale a large image to video and maintaining focus at the same time is asking a lot from the processor. I mean c'mon, the people that shoot Red, Arriflex, Canon and Sony Cinema cameras don't expect their systems to do this much less do any zooming at all (only for effect), why are we so spoiled to think our measly full-frame and crop sensor cameras will perform better than theirs? If I wanted to capture video scenes with my kids, my iPhone 11 Pro Max will be more consistent focus wise. This not a criticism. I'm just pointing something out that I think needs to be considered. Again, no offense. Peace!
You are correct.
Good read, thanks
Thanks for the comment! I thought the same.
Great video lens from what you showed us!. Nice work!
Excellent review - thank you!!
Thank you. I’m looking to pick up a used xt3 combo and to compliment my Sony, because of the heavier codec and 4K 60p. I bought a used 18-105 for my A6000. Again, not the sharpest but ois, unfortunately a power zoom but internally zoomed and no focus wobble...for video..Basically never comes off during the day..very useful.
I'd love to see a side by side with the Xf18-135mm
Let's try to up this comment 😉
Many people would love that too 😉
@@1po_ditutto seen it elsewhere and there is no contest: the 16-80 eats the 18-135 for breakfast
Optical when it comes to print there is very little difference unless your obsessed with lager apertures and do lots of low light stuff , use both and the same aperture and it’s hard to see a difference in real word usage although I like this lens I prefer the 18-55 and the 18-135 ( all horses for courses )
Im going to get this lens with my X-T4 especially with the weather resistance.
Great review of a great lens... much appreciated!
I was considering buying the 10-24mm as I have the 18-55mm but while watching reviews on Tube of You, I came to the realisation that this lens would serve me better. So I pulled the trigger after finding a used bargain on eBay, will go great with my X-T3, and play well with my X-E3, which I still love.
Thank you for the review! Would love to see side by side comparison photos between the 18-55 and the 16-80. Would make a fantastic "part 2" video. I've seen a bunch of negative comments on the 16-80, but as far as I can tell it's more than good enough for travel and doing reasonably sized prints. I haven't seen anyone show off print quality when using the two lenses at their extremes.
I'm hesitant to do so because of the shape of our 18-55. It's been through a lot over the past few years and I'm pretty sure it's not 100% any more. And I don't really want to invest in a new one for a test.
I have them both and the extended range on both ends make the 16-80 the winner when I need a lightweight single lens for travel or hiking.
@@AndrewGoodCamera I think the 18-55 and the 16-80 are quite similar in terms of image quality from what I've seen on youtube. What I'm interested in is how this lens compares to a full frame lens with similar focal lengths like a 24-105. Fujifilm advertises that the 16-80 is more compact and lighter than an equivalent lens for a 35mm format system. Which I really like and therefore (for the most part) I'm interested in changing systems (from Canon to Fuji). I found it's very difficult to find lens comparisons between Canon and Fuji. I understand it's not easy to do so, but perhaps you're interested in making a comparison between the 16-80 and a 24-105 and see what the differences are and what the pros and cons are when changing from full frame to Fuji. Right now I don't really know what to expect. Thanks!
I fully agree with your review. Even if I don’t shoot video, so the wobbling is no issue for me. The conclusion in my own review is the same: Best Fuji lens for travel so far because of its versatility, size and IQ. By the way: I also like it for portraits, if my 56 1.2 is not around. 😉
Keep up your great work! Always a pleasure.
Have had it over a month, I think it's the ultimate getter of shots. Zoom range, close-up, low light, portraits, bokeh, inclement weather, video. I'm honestly thinking about selling all my other lens and keeping this plus the Samyang 12mm f2 and maybe the 50-230.
Hi. What do you think of 90mm lens 2.0?
Should i buy to shoot photography of one year old kid. Or should i buy 16-80 pls reply
@@silentvlognatureandphotogr2257 think you could really benefit from the flexibility of the 16-80, 90mm is really too long especially if you want to shoot indoor. That being said 16-80 is also not great indoors because of the slow F4. Can I recommend you have a look instead at the Tamron 17-70 f2.8? Seems to review great.
@@gabrielrosu3977 thank you
Great and happy looking family, wish you all the best ❤️
I like the music at the end
Hi Andrew, you mentioned about ND filter somewhere in the video. Just thinking, would you be interested to have a dedicated video talking about lens filters? Would love to know more. Thanks! Love your channel.
Defo need this, coming from Canon where I used to own the 15-85. Just beautifully versatile and provides sufficient wide angle. Not digging Fuji's 18-55 that I bought used, unfortunately.
Hi Andrew, worm welcomes to Pattaya.Thailand🇹🇭
This lens look so nice for travel wish I could buy it with an xpro 3
Had mine for 2 months now . Absolutely love it . Sold my 18-55mm as I couldn’t see me using it anymore . I found they were similar IQ and with the xtra reach the 16-80 was the one for me .
@@OMGILOVEBANANAS I sold it on Craigslist in Vancouver . I got $425. Canadian for it . This seems to be the going rate for them used around here.
@@dalewhitehead7527 Nice, I actually see one for $400 on CL Vancouver right now... but chances are pretty high I'll be going for the 16-80 anyway lol :)
@@necro2607 After trying both of these lenses I would say if you don’t have either definitely go with the 16-80 .
@@dalewhitehead7527 Nice, yeah that's exactly the case (I only have the 23mm f2 currently). Thanks, I appreciate it!
Good honest review
Great review 👌I only have two lenses.16-80 and 35mm f2.Prime for streetphotos and zoom for everything else 👍
Slick setup. Covers a good range from the jump. I went the 23mmf2 with 56mmf12
I'm thinking to buy those 2 lenses for travel photography, are they still the best combo or do you have any better choices..?
Great video!
Thanx
There are finally loads of these available second hand in the $400 range. My 16-55 2.8 soup can stays home too often, I'm hoping this more compact OIS lens gets more use.
I recently picked up the 18-135 (new, since I heard quality control was poor in some of the old copies) for around $615 AUD after Fuji cashback (~$430 USD). It's also weather resistant with good OIS, but has an unmarked aperture ring. Weighs 50g more than the 16-80, but looks to be a similar size. At 80mm the min aperture is around f/5.3 (worse), but at the wide end f/3.5 (slightly better). Yet to really go travelling with it so hope it works out well...
Great video as usual, keep it up :)
I use the xf 18-135mm and I find the performance of it quite predictable, which is not a bad thing, I'll explain. All the wide range zoom lenses I've ever used were the same. Always perfectly sharp in the middle of the picture, regardless of the aperture and focal lenght. It's the corners that these zoom lenses, especial super zoom lenses (I consider the 18-135mm range to be super zoom) have issues with because at the very extremes, for instance 18mm a lot of in camera corections are pressent to fight the barrel distortion of the glass and on the very telephoto end at for instance 135mm the issue goes the other way around (pincushion distortion). It's the camera straightening the image that causes the corner softness in these two very extremes of a lens such as 18-135mm. That being said stopping the lens down mitigates a lot of these optical issues. My copy of the xf 18-135mm is the happiest at f/8 to f/10, even at the very wide and/or telephoto end. Slower aperture is where the OIS comes into play, by the way and this lens has amazing OIS. Anything between 35mm and 100mm then is nice regardless of the aperture.
So which one do you recommend for shooting videos ? 18-55 or 16-80 ? with Xt4 ?
Firmware update 1.05 and still the focus issue with video zoom is present. ( September 2021) Using a Fuji X-T4 and all recent firmware updates for camera and lens. I use manual focus for video....but if you want or need auto focus:
Better to get a linear motor lens that is made for video. The 16-80 is good if you do not zoom in or out using autofocus. If you want a great video lens, then the 16-55, 18-135 or the 55-200 is probably a better bet . Look for the LM designation.
The 16-80 is an excellent still photography lens. Video zoom using auto focus....not so much.
I'll test it from tomorrow on a five days holiday in Helsinki. I'm still deciding whether it will be on the X-Pro3 or the X-T3...
Great review, thank you. Can I ask, have they fixed the zoom focus/flicker issues yet?
Nice family, congratulations.
Ah, the Aulani Resort And Spa. 👍🏻
Really like the Song
Hi Andrew, it is interesting to see how the 16-80 works on the X-T5 which I have had for a while. I have both the 16-80 & the 16-55 at the moment. The 16-80 seems to work well with the 40mp sensor and appears sharper than on the X-T4. The 16-55 looks the same on both cameras. After testing in various circumstances I am keeping the 16-80. It was great on the earlier XT bodies but is super on the T5. The 16-55 seems a great deal heavier, not just because of the physical weight but it doesn’t balance well on the XT even with the battery grip which makes things feel even heavier. So now just using 10-24, 16-80 and fabulous 75-30O which is stunning on the T5. Keep well.
I had the 16-55 and 50-140 (I bought both used) thinking that this would cover all of the scenarios I would encounter as a prosumer photographer. I found I almost never used the 50-140. In fact I really only used it when I felt guilty about spending a lot of money on it and felt I had to do something to justify having it.
It's a long story, but I wound up buying the 10-24 and fell in love with it. That's when I discovered the 16-80. With the X-T5's 40 megapixel sensor, I can shoot at 80mm and crop in pretty tightly. Having the 50-140 just isn't needed. For me the combined range of 10-80 is much more usable than 16-140. The weight and size loss is much more camera bag friendly.
The OIS of this lens is bizar, so good!
hi, great review! i have a question since it loses focus when zooming, are u still able to do dolly zooms properly?
Thanks for the review! I'm planning to buy the XT3 and I'm debating with which lens to buy it- 16-80 VS 18-55? What do you recommend? 🙏😊
One point I feel is important for people like myself (who haven't shot on anything but smartphones), is that, I don't know which focal lengths I prefer. I'm saving up to buy into the fuji system, and fully intend on getting the 16, 56, and 90 mm lenses, but in which order is beyond me. So something like this sounds wonderful to be able to discover what my preferences are, and buy accordingly.
I think Lightroom has an calculator which can tell you which focal length you had used the most for any given shoot, if you had used a zoom lens. If you don't use it, you can do it yourself with a little help of algebra :-)
And in regards of prime lenses you had mentioned, I have and use all of them, 16mm the most, but for portraits you gotta have at least one of other two...
I would probably suggest 16 or 56. 16 is the widest and 90 would give you the greatest zoom. Most likely, you’ll be shooting in a mid range, somewhere between 20-30ish. A zoom lens like this or the 18-55 would be great at covering most of the focal lengths you would need. If you do want to shoot more landscape (wider) shots, then a lens that goes down to 16 or lower would be more beneficial. On the other hand, if you want to do more closeups of things like wildlife, you may need something like 90+.
that OIS sold me. I prefer optical image stabilisation than IBIS which tends to be wobbly most of the time
Do you prefer the 16 - 80 over the 18-135? You can always set your f to 4 on any lens and adjust exposure with other settings. Especially with IBIS in the XT4?
Been watching your videos lately. Having utilized your Fuji lens calculator, 16-80mm came out for the kit lens. And for the prime it's 50mm f2. Now I'm planning to get both lenses together with the xt4 body.
Is it redundant to have both lenses as a beginner photographer? If, then what's the best prime lens will you suggest having that kit lens already. Thanks. And btw, you have a lovely family. Love the way you document your travel together. I can resonate in this video as far as family bonding and just having a great adventure together. Cheers!
I’m interested in this lens, but how does it balance and feel on the Fuji xe3? I could use the broader reach in a one-lens solution but don’t want to buy a new camera. Maybe adding a grip would help? It’s difficult to test these options when the nearest camera store is two hours away and they have to special order anything Fuji. Thanks😀
Thanks for a good review with lots of examples. I have been looking at the 18-135mm lens for a travel lens but I might have to take a closer look at this one. Isn't it great when all the kids get potty trained and big enough to take a long trip? Your children are all beautiful and good sports around the camera.
Thank you! yes, they seem to be ok with cameras. We'll see if they still feel that way when they are teenagers. :)
I’d be curious to know how the 18-60mm balances with X-Pro 3 (I assume it was 3, not 2 you were using)? And did you use the extra hand grip with it? Asking because I am going to get X-Pro 3 and found it to balance surprisingly well with some of the heavier Fuji primes. However, I am still on edge when it comes to also selling my G9 and Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 in favor of not having to use two different camera systems and getting a bit more range, although the 12-40mm f2.8 is pretty magical when it comes to optical performance.
Thank you
I have always been a oly guy but have been thinking about Fuji and now even more that the xt4 is out. But wanted to initially get only one lens to see how it performs against my em1 mkii and pro lenses. It seems this might be the one or else to with a really good ingle prime lens like the 35 or 23 f2 lenses? Thoughts? Or other recommendations? For example how about the 16-55 f2.8
Salut!, Thank ya for your some-isue--thang. :)
I search for the same - stand now between 18-135 or 16-80 or 10-24 + 55-200.
The focus is just on video, not for photography.
So do you think on other bodies like the X-T200 will be the same problem while zooming?
So can you recommend objectives, where this zoom-work will work?
thank ya.
You think 16-80mm has focussing problems? Try to put 18-135mm on any given Fuji camera and then try either shoot burst while zooming in or out all the way while using continuous auto focus OR try the same while shooting video. Each time any combo I've been using lost focus completely; sometimes I even needed to restart the camera. Those issues on the other hand never appeared while using my 16-55mm f2,8...
24 to 120, pretty good range.
I'll keep my 16-55mm 2.8.
Great review Andrew. It looks like everybody had a blast in Hawaii ...
Thanks! We certainly did.
How's the autofocus compared to the 18-55mm kit lens? I heard LM lenses are better for video autofocus. I'm currently using Canon but want to switch over to Fuji and I'm not sure which kit lens to get.
Lovely family!
On travels I want a wide lens for sunsets, long exposure, I brink samyang 12 f2, for everyday shots 23 or 35 f2.... and some portraits 56, or 90f2 for landscape or portraits. I would take the 18-135 if quality is not a issure.
Hope to have your x-pro3 review soon
Yeah I need to. Sort of dreading it because the amount of haters. :)
@@AndrewGoodCamera Aw, I like it! You've got a friend in me, Mr Dura-Tec Black X-Pro3. x
"Zooming in and out" issues. There's a Monterey Bay channel on youtube, which has lots of very deep sealife videos, and the optics on these underwater vessel's cameras are simply, uncompromised. But what killed me was a fast zoom on some cephalopod. Boom! And the sharpness never wavered. I could only guess what they were using...the best.
As you said in your comments Fuji does have and make Lens especially for video so that’s not the problem. You can shoot video with a Len Designed primarily for still photography which is capable of Shooting video but it’s not the same as a len pacifically design for video. If Fuji 16-80mm Len is good as a video camera Len then users would be complaining about the cost. But I am enjoying your video.
Love the reach of this lens but hate the size - I even find the 18-55 too big since I don't shoot much on the longer end anyway. I wish Fuji made a solid compact zoom like the RX100 or LX100 so I could keep my kit light with a dedicated prime XT shooter and a second small camera for travel/stabilised video in the Fuji ecosystem.
The XC 15-45, it has OIS. I have that lens in a kit for my X-T30 along with the XF 27 and XF 18. These are 3 of Fujifilm's 4 physically smallest lenses. I carry that kit in a padded fanny pack. The other lens in that size class is the new XC 35 f2.
Great presentation, easy to follow and to the point. Question: would you use this lense to shoot friends at a golf tournament? (not professional but need decent quality of group shots and a few swings for a newsletter). Thank you 🙏🏻
Yes
I am torn between this n the similar Tamron’s zoom with f2.8. I love the aperture ring on the Fuji n Tamron’s 2.8. I use it mainly to create cinematic video footage so the bigger aperture is better right? But how much better? Hope u can shed some lights. Thx
Lovely family photography. Kindness before cameras, it is said. I'm hanging on to my 16-55 f/2.8, sharp across the range, weather resistant, the total workhorse. Fits best on the slightly larger X-H1. Thanks!
How is the 16-55 with handheld shooting at the 55mm side? Are you able to achieve sharp photos at a shutter speed of 120?
@@ianplaysbass The 16-55 does not have any in-lens stabilization. I try to keep my shutter speed above 1/125 when hand held, and find it's quite sharp for any focal length on the lens.
What about focusing while zooming in case of Olympus m4/3?
Anyone using this lens on X-E3 ? I'm very used to the 23mm f/2 WR kit lens and unsure how much larger/heavier the 16-80mm will feel. Of course I can go to a shop and try it, but in advance of making the trip, curious to hear any anecdotes from users with my prospective config! I can actually fit the X-E3 + lens in my vehicle's armrest, it's so compact! Not sure that would be possible with the 16-80 lol
Thanks a lot for your review. Reviews on this lens are a bit of a mixed bag, but I think I will buy it and thus replace my 18-135 travelling lens and possibly also my 18-55. The 16 is more useful for me than the 135 reach. Also like the improved IBIS.
OIS not IBIS
Very nice review as always Andrew. This lens hits the sweet spot for me. I used to own 1655 but found it to be too bulky for traveling and not suitable for handheld travel documentary video. Nevertheless my travel combo was 1655 and couple fast primes. With the 1655 i always had to focus on keeping the footages steady with the means I have. With this lens getting stable footage even at 80mm is so easy.
My recommendation for people who are considering this lens.
if you have couple primes to pair it with 1680 definitely go 1680
If don’t care about video and dont own any other fuji lens and want to have all in one best zoom for photo choose 1655
If you are a hybrid shooter
No question 1680.
HoJoon Kim i have 35 f1.4, 56 f1.2, and an x100f. Deciding to get a good zoom lens was thinking of either 16-55 f2.8 or this 16-80. Which would u recommend
@@lloydcarig9292 Can you elaborate little bit more on your use case scenarios? For example using it for work? or personal Travel? Are you going to shoot video at all? What is your interchangeable lens Fuji body?
HoJoon Kim oh i end up getting a used 16-55. I use an xt2 and i mostly do portraits. I have the x100f as kinda my daily walk around and 35 1.4 for those times where i need something fo those night gatherings. I bought the 16-55 based purely on its reputation. I know that i was getting an excellent lens and when i was checking reviews for the 16-80 it was always a mixed bag so I passed on it
HoJoon Kim oh and i dont do videos thats why i can live with no ois
@@lloydcarig9292 yea given your information I think you made the correct choice! 1655 is a beast enjoy!
love the AF hunting of the panasonic filming you. Good job Panasonic! :D
Hey there! What would you recommend for filming close up videos just like this one where you're sitting down & facing the camera on a Fujifilm X-T4
will the lens need to do anything else? How much do you want in focus vs blurred out background? Will it be in autofocus or manual focus? Do you want it wide or tight?
Cool video! I was wondering what body did you use most to shoot while here in Hawaii? I am looking to get a Fuji camera and not sure on the X pro3 and X-T3. Thanks!
90% on the x-t3, but that's because the-pro 3 isn't quite as good for hybrid photo and video. Still plenty capable though. The cameras are nearly identical inside. It's mostly usability and ergonomics that you're deciding between
Have you updated to the latest firmware? Supposedly it improves the focus “tracking” during zooms. I’ve seen one review where it seemed to be much better, albeit not fully eradicated. BTW, big kudos to you for correctly identifying the “wobble” root cause as varifocal design, with firmware and motors trying their best to mimic parfocal “by wire”. I think it is akin to barrel distortion and vignetting corrections in firmware. These are all compromises to allow optimization of other design aspects. I’ve watched just about every RUclips video on the 16-80, and I think you’re the first one to understand/explain it correctly. Also, happy new year to you and your family!
Thanks Karl. Yes, tested with firmware 1.02
Denae & Andrew Then from your video, it doesn’t look like firmware 1.02 helped that much. Too bad.
@@swagonman Yes. It makes me think that it's a construction issue and not fixable by firmware. :(
Great review. I have the 10-24 but hardly use it and considering a lens that would be an excellent travel lens, handle landscapes and be great for family shots when back out and about. I used to have the canon 28-105 stuck to my old crop dslr and kind of missing that type of range. I have mostly primes now but if you're on a break with the family I miss that flexibility in zoom and don't want my 55-200 all the time (missing out the wider shots).
I was thinking this, the 18-55 or 18-135. Any thoughts on this vs those lenses?
I enjoyed this review more than most that I've watched because it was centered on actual use, not on pixel-peeping. One of the reviews I watched had this comment: If someone is complaining that your photos aren't sharp in the corners, there is probably something that isn't very good in the center.
I think sharpness is overrated. If you're a professional photographer that makes a living on your photos, I can see that you would have requirements that include super-sharpness. For prosumers who are striving for interesting photos and lots of options for photo editing, my guess is that the 16-80 have be more than enough sharpness.
I previously had the Red Badge 16-55 and replaced it with the 16-80. It sacrifices the f/2.8 for the benefit of longer zoom range and being perceptibly lighter and better balanced on my X-T5. I tried the 18-55 kit lens for a while and was really disappointed in it. The color that comes through the 16-80 is excellent vs. muddiness with the 18-55.
Great review, Andrew! Does the 16-55 keep focus better when zooming during video? I'm deciding between the 16-80 and the 16-55. My one concern with the 16-55 is the weight. You said the 16-80 wasn't much heavier than the 18-55, so that helps me decide. Looks like you had a great time in Hawaii.
16-55 keeps focus much better, yes. I really get frustrated with the 16-80 and it's focus sometimes. But I still prefer it, generally, because of the tighter zoom and it can focus closer, which I use a lot for b-roll. And, of course, the size.
(Just realized I sent that from my other account) ^
Great review. I've been using the 18-135 as my "vacation" lens for when photography isn't the main focus, travel and family are. It's worked quite well for that purpose but I've been intrigued by the newer 16-80. I like the constant aperture, but wonder if I'll miss the extra reach at the telephoto end. Think I'll rent one for a weekend and give it a try.
Paula Simson let us know your views cos I love my 18-135
@@barrymayes6712 I know! I'm surprised at how much I enjoy using the 18-135. I'll let you know after I try out the 16-80 how it goes. Or maybe I'll win the lottery and I can have both, hahahaha!!
@@barrymayes6712 I just got a used 18-135 as I’ve switched to Fuji and am in two minds atm. There have been some not so great reviews and I’m not sure if I have a not so good model (apparently it was a quality control issue so some were great, some not so much). I am trying to trial the one I got so if I’m not happy I can return quickly but not sure the best way to do this. Any ideas from anyone would be most appreciated. It does seem soft in the corners but I’m not sure if it’d still be a good lens for travel as I want some reach without having a huge lens to carry (Sold my 70-200 canon with my other stuff). I’m torn between keeping or looking at the 16-80 however it’s another price jump
@@traceybartlam7737 the Fuji 18-135mm is a stunning lens. Sharp, great colours and good bokeh that’s better than many other zooms by Canon and Nikon. The Bokeh is better than several of Fuji’s other zooms. Pixel peepers might say it’s not Fuji’s sharpest lens. But it’s a zoom lens. Its under rated. If it’s soft at the edges can you actually notice? Does it matter? I used mine at fully open aperture most of the time and loved it. I prefer slightly wider. That’s the only reason I sold it.
@@barrymayes6712 thanks, I’ll test a little more. I love the range but am just concerned because there appeared to be some that weren’t good so need to make sure I’ve got a good one! I’m also learning the Fuji camera so although principles are the same settings etc need to be mastered. So far I am loving the camera.
If I have my Fuji xs10 in auto and use the focus ring of 16-80 lens , is any risk that I can damage it?
I just received this lens mostly for video work. But when turning on the camera on the lens makes a decent amount of noise which is quite loudly picked up by the microphone. Is this you experience as well? Turning off the iOS does not matter.
Great review as always... but the focus hunting in this video, ouch, made my eyes go funny lol... is that a "feature" of the s1h?
Duke Gledhill contrast focus sux. Not sure why panasonic doesn’t do phase detect
Pretty sure if Panasonic really wanted to implement phase detect on their FF sensors they could. These are cameras for videographers. Keep in mind having phase detect points do impact image quality (albeit to an incredibly small amount). From what I understand it's a decision, not a limitation. And as for my part, I usually manual focus with the S1H and so not usually an issue. This time I was lazy and didn't want to try to nail MF focus alone.
@@AndrewGoodCamera that makes sense. It was a little distracting though 😊 - keep up the great work 😁👍
Do you have a guide of what F stop you consider the sharpest point of the lenses you use?
5.6-8, 99% of the time.
The faster f2.8, 18-55mm would be my first choice, especially for night shots. Having used the x100-f and s before hand, I've no idea why I'd need 80mm. Instead I always attempt to walk closer to my subject as the fixed lens system taught me. But I understand there will be reasons why this is not always possible. Nonetheless, the f2.8 takes some lovely portraits.
The added stop of OIS from the 16-80 negates the 2.8 advantage of the 18-55, unless the subject is moving, of course.
@@AndrewGoodCamera when taking photos of friends and family in low light, the OIS won't help as much 2.8 would do.
Which prime lens you recommend to accompany this lens..?
YAY! So much fun in Hawaii, eh 'bra? Sure wish you could have seen Maui...so incredibly different than Honolulu or O'ahu...anyway, wow surprised you still went for it with the focus quirk since video is as much as stills for you!...for now, I'm going to keep my 18-55f/2.8-4, it's a pretty darn good lens but find myself using my 16/1.4 and my 55-200 more often. By the way, I rented the 40-150 to see what I was missing...and no, the $1K more wasn't justified. Just the weight and size difference was a deal-breaker for me.
Yeah. The draw for us was Aulani for the kids. I'm sure we'll go again on our own or when kids are older to other locations like Maui.
This is one of the kit lens that is bundled with the xs10 body. Giant shadow in any shots with the onboard flash :(
Does this error occurs even when push in and focus set to manual??
Unfortunate about the varifocal issues. I was really excited about this lens for hybrid shooting as I hated working with the 18-55 for video due to the aperture. Fuji had a chance to make a killer do-it-all video lens like the Canon 24-105, but it seems like they missed the mark. Still on the fence if I'll buy it.
Yeah I agree. It's a huge bummer. Having a constant aperture is very nice. But zooming on Fuji has never been great anyway due to the flicker, so I'm already trying to relearn not to do it at all. In which case, this lens is great.
@@AndrewGoodCamera It still seems like the best Fuji do-it-all, and for that I may still buy it, but I was annoyed with the aperture flicker and varifocal nature of the 18-55, so I was hoping that would've been solved with this lens. Solving both those issues would be a huge win for the X-H1 and X-T3 as true hybrids as there's not much else that fits the bill.