Surface Pro 6 v. Pro 5 - Throttling Characteristics Compared.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- I'll warn you guys up front. This is a long video, but I found the comparison really fun. If you are a fan of my videos I think you'll enjoy it too. BUT; If you don't want to watch the whole thing; skip to ~25 minute mark where I give a wrap up.
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Even all these years later, this video is still super great for those in the used marked.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!
This is EXACTLY what I wanted. Finally, a RUclipsr that provides a serious technical comparison of the i7 SP models.
As a SP 2017 (SP5) owner I am particularly interested with the performance gains I could expect from upgrading to the SP6...despite the weaker 620 graphics of the SP6.
thank you for being real and humble and not artificial like many others , this what will make you thrive and unique all due respect to u
Nice Video, i was waiting for that since the Surface Pro 6 was announced!
Best channel for surface products info cause its more detailed than the other channels!
I own a surface pro 4 and I am a fan of surface products.. thanks for uploading your videos! 😊
40 frames per second = playable
25 frames per second = not playable
yea only for 20 min..gaming...
90s gamers disagree.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Most surface pro 5 vs 6 comparison videos seem to match up the base pro 5 m3 processor vs the base pro 6 i5 which is unfair from the very start. This i7 vs i7 match up is perfect for understanding the differences between models. Thank you so much
The accuall vid starts at 3:03
Thx
actually you can skip to 3:57
When people talk about workload on Surface Pro, I literally want it to be an on-bed gaming machine :DD
finally the video i was looking for! thanks!
finally a review on i7! Thanks for sharing!
My Pro 5 throttling all the way nowadays since it recovers itself from not charging symptom. The back plate like super warm and performance stutter sometimes even for an easy task like opening folder in explorer. 8 months unit.
I own surface 5 i5 with 4gb and it works just great with 0 problems and also been my best productive tool in my past year at college
You have 2 Surface pros in your hands. Why do you look sad?
because happiness is not in the gadgets and money, if it were then no millionaries would have commited suicide think!
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Amazing comparison, thank you! 😄👍 Thoughts on screen quality/color accuracy between the two? I'm hoping to invest in an AIO mobile retouching & editing machine. Thanks!
This is great! Loved to see more tests between the i7s
Nice comparison, thanks :) ….Sometimes I`m also thinking about compare things because sometimes I just don`t find infos I need.... same reason why you made this video
USB C? I don´t use it yet so I don´t need it. I would rathe
r prefer another usb 3.0 port
I’m not so sure would be worth the upgrade and besides gaming on the tablet especially PC gaming is really almost like a no-no as it may be slightly passable it may not be enjoyable little most likely in most cases not. And long term use on a daily basis and depending on the temperature of the room your room and many other variables I could see how this test for sure would be of interest I do appreciate this don’t get me wrong. I don’t own one of these devices but I like technology myself and I always look at the heat limits of a device the limitations technologically of the device on what devices bring to the table.
Did you take into consideration that with your side-to-side comparison setup one surface is blowing how air to another... probably 5 is heating up 6
The only thing I could tell you in regards to keeping it by now you would’ve figured that out and it’s the return policy would’ve expired is basically this does it bring enough value in terms of performance features the liability and so on compared to your previous generation device to justify the price of purchase. OK there is a personal decision and I hope you make the best of yourself
You should try cooling it from the front. The graphite heat spreaders are attached to the front of the device, not the back this time.
I've done a bunch of gaming tests with the i5.. going to pick up an 8gb i7 and test a few games and most likely return
I'd love to see some of your comparisons! Thanks.
Hi Cameron, Panos specifically said they have improved the cooling in the pro 6. Also, the iris graphics is no longer made available by intel at this TDP, probably to squeeze in a quad core. So they moved iris to the high wattage chips... Therefore MS had no choice with the i7....Anyway it's always interesting to look at your surface videos!
I would really like if you could measure fan noise on the 2 i7. SP5 had very low noise but throttled quite a bit. I wonder how the SP6 compares in terms of noise...
The SP6 fan was definitely quieter and cooled more effectively in my test. I don't have a decibel meter. But if you were to compare, the SP6 is just slightly quieter.
cbutters Tech Thanks a lot for the info Cameron. The fan on the sp5 was already quiter than on the sp4, let alone. the. SP3... So glad to see that MS is improving every year not only the performance but also the noise emissions... I am very sensitive to noise. I sold my SP3 i5 and went with a HP elite X2 core M7... I’ll wait for the SP7 and USB C to upgrade, but I do want 16GB RAM so the i7 is the only option. Unless they make a surface yoga and if they do I may rather go with that instead...
Good review
I like your in-depth review, but I come to a different conclusion. The pro 5 is not only better performing, but also more efficient as it need less wattage to do the same exercises. The pro 6 seems like it allows a higher temperature which is worse for the components but better for heat transfer (which is kind of cheating in this comparison).
It would be interesting what happens in cpu intensive test.
thank you bro i was also looking for this video
I'am happy it still has USB A and not USB C. That way I don't need a dongle.
if i wanna use one fore drawing which should i pick and what specs, looking for the cheapest but useful option and good batterylife
Surface Pros are a "laptop first" tablet. Most Windows tablet are like that. You'd do better with an Android tablet.
Can you please tell me how do games such as Rocket League,,GTA V... preform on the Pro 6.
bad. it's not a gaming device.
Thanks for the review
In your review did you try to write with a pen on the screen? which one is better for note-taking?
Good video
I had a maxed out surface pro 2017 (5). I sold it because I did not use all of the power and got a pro 5 lte.
I'm just curious as to what the power settings were set to. Were they both set to best performance?
What about virtualization apps? Does anyone let me virtualization of 2 machines . ?
can xtu increase temp limit? maybe pro5 would stop throttling at 59c?
My surface pro 1st gen does not throttle but refuses to charge battery while games are running.
so is a asus Zephyrus s gaming laptop amazon version a better value then say a surface pro 6 for gaming?
So would you recommend a sp6 or something cheaper like a hp 15z laptop
how about battery life comparison?
For fucks sake, WHO CARES if there is no USB-C! Out of several dozen non-computer USB equipped devices I currently own and use everyday, only TWO are equipped with USB-C ports - My Google Pixel 2XL, and my ASUS Zenpad tablet. So the USB-C ports on my Acer Spin 15 Chromebook? NEVER been used. The USB-C port on my Surface Go? NEVER been used. If Microsoft made any mistakes with the Surface Pro 6 it's that they only put a single USB 3 port - I would have preferred at least 2 USB 3.1 type-A ports, instead of always needing to keep my Surface Pro 6 tied to it's Surface Dock.
The guy seems to be fixated on proving pro 5 is bettter
It's not, at all. The main issue with the Pro 6 and Surface Go is that both come from Microsoft intentionally tuned to maximize battery life at all costs, even when the computer is running on A/C mains power. You have to make some adjustments to Windows power settings to really get the max performance from the Pro 6.
Time stamps are necessary.
the real question is , does the pro 6 have a fan inside it ?
Encrypted Gaming yes if it has the i7
I do not understand why you are comparing this for gaming? First and foremost you touched briefly on the crappy SSDs that Microsoft puts in the Pro2017, especially the 256Gb. The speeds are around SATA II which is close to 300MBps for write speeds. Read speeds are, because of the caching mechanism in Windows 10 skewed and should be taken with this caching option off. I would love to see what the SP6 does with regards to the write speeds.
" I would love to see what the SP6 does with regards to the write speeds." - I've got a pair of external 500GB SSD's, (Samsung T5's), and one 1TB external SSD plugged into my Surface Pro 6 via the Surface Dock and regularly hit ~450 - 500MBps write speeds.
Thank you man for the review!
Should I get the SP6 i5, 8gb, 256gb SSD or Surface Pro 5 i7, 16gb, 1TB SSD ???
Go for the Pro 6. The improvements in the CPU alone make it worth the extra $$$...
pro 6, the entry level gives you better battery life
Thanks for this great video.
so my question is : should i buy i.5 SP 2017 or i.5 SP 6 ?
i need a device for university .
Go for the Pro 6 i5 because it has a quad core processor which makes big difference
i think I'm gonna wait till the Black Friday and I'll see . thanks guys 👍👍
i finally bought a Surface Book 2 😂❤️
@TotheK I N G D O M bro, how is it? any issues or overheating? I want to get it for uni too
30:18 its like the same device... its just black now... FOR 150 EXTRA FREAKING EUROS over the silver one with the same fing specks. wtf
not in the ms store, probably street prices.
Think you could do a giveaway for the surface pro 6? Thanks!🙂
The Surface Pro is not making für Gaming. Nobody buy this pc for gaming.
Not entirely accurate... While the Pro 6 won't handle modern games with all the "eye candy" turned on, it still does perfectly fine with plenty of games.
@@looneyburgmusic it's not designed for gaming at all, the only reason you can play light games on it, is because intel's CPU has an integrated GPU
@@jeneralgod So.... It can play games then?
Just not all games. It's sort of like saying, "The Xbox 360 sucks because it can't play Xbox One games. No one buy an Xbox 360."
So pro 6 is a no go for gaming?
Not necessarily... I'm showing the SP6's 620 can beat the SP5's 640 in certain cases: ruclips.net/video/PC0gl4_Ttfs/видео.html
no surface product (except the surface book 2 high end) out there is for gaming.
Depends what you want to play. Modern triple AAA games. No.
Older games and indie titles. Sure.
Can you run Overwatch on both plz?????? Would love to see how they compare with that game
I will do so. Stay tuned.
@@cbutters maximum appreciation good sir :)
Surprise results here... some overwatch testing: ruclips.net/video/PC0gl4_Ttfs/видео.html
This campare is useless. It is not designed for gaming. Pro6 has better CPU power and longer battery life. It is much better for work and study than pro5
but old i7 have a LOT BETTER graphics module than SP6
whats the importance of better TDP on 6 if it perform WAY worse compared to lower TDP of the pro 5? ...its pointless. the point should be that pro 6 performs way worse than pro 5 with same circumstances.
For GPU functions this is definitely true... If you switch to computational tasks; the Pro 6 will cream the Pro 5. It depends what you want to do on the device. If you want GPU performance; use Pro 5, CPU Performance, use Pro 6. Still sucks we have to take a step backwards in that department on a newer device.
@@cbutters well with newer generations of CPUs you can only expect better performance on the CPU side...maybe they cut down on GPU diode to increase CPU? if that is the case thats just lazy intel.
Did you watch the video? The GPU performance is nearly the same, within 10%, but the CPU of the 6 crushes the 5. What video did you watch?
@@pellegew 43 FPS (average) from pro5 VS 25 FPS (average) from pro6....that's not nearly the same GPU performance! that's what i ask you what video did you what