Dell just DESTROYED the Surface Pro! - Dell XPS 13 2-in-1

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @Sankray
    @Sankray 2 года назад +992

    Checking price in europe: starts at 1800€
    Welp that's another one crossed out

    • @jeremyphillips3087
      @jeremyphillips3087 2 года назад +19

      Lol europe

    • @HansenLaMoose
      @HansenLaMoose 2 года назад +188

      @@jeremyphillips3087 probably one of the better places in the world, tbh.

    • @jeremyphillips3087
      @jeremyphillips3087 2 года назад +18

      @@HansenLaMoose Yeah, I hear things are great in Ukraine right now. 🤣

    • @HansenLaMoose
      @HansenLaMoose 2 года назад +128

      @@jeremyphillips3087 honestly i’d rather be in ukraine than america tbh.

    • @vqlcano1698
      @vqlcano1698 2 года назад +237

      @@jeremyphillips3087 Yeah, I'm sure Ukraine is the entirety of Europe in the same way that Florida is the entirety of the United States.

  • @redmenaceT6
    @redmenaceT6 Год назад +35

    My work actually just got me this as a desktop/portable replacement. I’m a wine and beverage manager for a large country club. I have a dock for my desk, but am able to use it also as a portable POS station, and work wirelessly from the wine cellars and control our inventory and beverage lists on the fly during service from the restaurant. I’ve only had it three weeks or so but I love it already.

  • @ouilsen2
    @ouilsen2 2 года назад +702

    As a Surface Pro user I have one observation. The kickstand is not attached to the tablet. So you have to attach the keyboard when you want to put your tablet up somewhere. Also for note taking the surface can be leaned a bit with the attached kickstand. I make a lot of use of that attached kickstand. It's a great solution by Microsoft. I wish other manufactures could just use that design.

    • @geese5170
      @geese5170 2 года назад +25

      It might seem great, but moving parts that are thin and flimsy create a lot of issues. It’s great until one day it becomes loose and doesn’t hold place, or eventually breaks. Although I agree the option would be nice, it makes sense why Dell decided against it

    • @hectorvivis3651
      @hectorvivis3651 2 года назад +175

      @@geese5170 As someone that used a Surface Pro 4 for 5 or 6 years, the kickstand is still as stiff as the beginning.

    • @isaiahandersen9269
      @isaiahandersen9269 2 года назад +63

      @@geese5170 I use the surface pro 7 and haven't had any trouble with the kickstand. I have put this laptop through a lot of traveling, and moving around and would say that I change positions on the kickstand at least 10 times a day and have never experienced any issues with stiffness or broken parts.

    • @DoctorNemmo
      @DoctorNemmo 2 года назад +5

      @@isaiahandersen9269 It's a great design ! I wish they invented something like it for the iPad.

    • @nasiridrishi7298
      @nasiridrishi7298 2 года назад +34

      @geese5170 wrong, been using surface pro 4 since 3 years, it’s hinge still feel like the way I first time used it. You must experience before dropping your criticism

  • @mahfah7911
    @mahfah7911 2 года назад +171

    And the only thing they didn’t compare side by side is the very same Surface

    • @kaths_rockxbye5601
      @kaths_rockxbye5601 2 года назад +4

      prolly will be a whole video

    • @lilboo07
      @lilboo07 Год назад +7

      Yup and I was waiting for why it's better than the surface.

    • @chs9627
      @chs9627 Год назад +4

      @@lilboo07 It's not, different tools for different applications.

  • @ViXoZuDo
    @ViXoZuDo 2 года назад +627

    I would 100% prefer the headphone jack over that camera...

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict Год назад +16

      Cute laughing in Bluetooth

    • @therealstupidwaffle
      @therealstupidwaffle Год назад +78

      @@qjtvaddict maniacal laughing in actually having a headphone jack

    • @Carnyzzle
      @Carnyzzle Год назад +94

      ​@@qjtvaddictit's a fucking laptop, not a phone, there's no excuse for it to not have a headphone jack

    • @gamerxvc3055
      @gamerxvc3055 Год назад +18

      People that are stuck on 3.5jack is stupid. All the better consumer headsets are Bluetooth now. No one really want to have that stupid jack.

    • @ViXoZuDo
      @ViXoZuDo Год назад +51

      @@gamerxvc3055 lol... you can't have the same audio quality of my sennheiser HD800 with bluetooth... and I have some top tier bluetooth headphones and no one is even close.

  • @Respectable_Username
    @Respectable_Username 2 года назад +119

    As somebody who used to main a Surface Pro 4, I immediately see two (Edit: four) major downsides that would prevent me moving to this if I were in the market for a new 2-in-1 (which I'm not right now):
    1) While there are several magnets on the back to hold the case, it simply cannot have the range of the Surface Pro's kickstand in that form factor. Also, couldn't hook the not-a-kickstand over my knees while lying on a couch, something I used to do frequently with the Surface!
    2) Flat keyboard my beloathed. The thing that made the Surface Pro keyboard not awful was the fact it clipped up to have a decent angle and therefore actual comfortable typing experience. That extra cm off the table really helps it feel like a normal keyboard!
    Edit: 3) You could actually use the Surface Pro on your lap 😛 Well, I could at least, and did. Most of the time I used it!
    Edit 2: 4) The movement to open this 2-in-1 and have it set up for typing seems a lot more involved than on the Surface. For the Surface, you open the keyboard lid (as with every laptop) and then just have to flick the kickstand back with the back of your middle fingernail in the little grooves on either side, then you're ready to go. Actually having to stop and adjust the back of the case, both pushing it into the right shape down the bottom and then adjusting the height up the top, is significantly more involved.
    I'm sure if you swapped between the two as a daily driver for a week or so, these little design decisions would add up. I'm sure the XPS computer part is great, but I do want to give a massive shoutout to the UX team who designed the Surface Pro for so many simple QOL decisions that you don't appreciate until they're suddenly not there! In fact, trying to use my old Surface as Just A Tablet now I have a new laptop, and it's interesting seeing how difficult it is because of _software_ design decisions that seem to have been made with far less care than the hardware.
    So no, I don't think the XPS has "DESTROYED" the Surface Pro, but it's good to see another serious competitor and I can't wait to see the learnings on a version 2. Little tip Dell: Great designers steal!

    • @alley8780
      @alley8780 Год назад +3

      Do u reckon the surface pro is good for programming?

    • @Respectable_Username
      @Respectable_Username Год назад +9

      @@alley8780 It's fine. Depends on your use case.
      If you're at Uni/college, it's handy to have the extreme portability plus the pen for those maths courses/anything that requires diagraming. But beware that the heat dissipation is limited and if you're doing anything particularly intense, you can run into problems, though I only encountered this once or twice (mainly in my AI course).
      Also, Windows ain't the greatest programming OS, and the linux compat isn't amazing. But on the other hand, WSL 2 is getting better all the time. So if you're happy programming within Windows in general, you'll do fine.
      Overall, I had very few problems using it as my only computer during my CS degree. Moving to full time work, I had a separate work laptop for that, so can't say how it'd perform on a truly meaty codebase. If you like the form factor, there's nothing that I'd particularly say "no avoid this because xyz". The main thing is just those thermals aren't so great if you're pushing it very hard (though maybe they've improved since the 4) and there's no way to open the chassis to dust the fans. Also, if you crack the screen, you need a full replacement computer (ask me how I know, I started with a SP3). And though I might be sounding quite negative here, I've really loved that little laptop and if I could have my time again, I would definitely choose it again. Just wanna be very clear of the tradeoffs that do exist so you can make the decision that's right for you 😊
      Oh, also, the pen functionality for being able to sign documents without owning a printer? Makes adulting so much easier!

    • @Dmitrii-q6p
      @Dmitrii-q6p Год назад +4

      destroyed by price. you can have logitech mx mini and type whatever you want on good keyboard.
      40% of price is huge.
      tabletop - is the issue,but if you accurate it will be possible to use legs as table.
      anyway, it's just more affordable for massmarket.

  • @yokayoksven
    @yokayoksven 2 года назад +44

    This time the clickbait title actually disappointing, because I really hoped they did something cool with the surface form factor, but this is not actually better then Surface Pro. Just the Surface's hinge alone makes it better then any folio case combo. And Surface 8 has good improvements over previous generations (and still has a headphone jack). (Surface 9 though ditches the jack and just adds 5g and that's it)

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor 2 года назад +1

      The 9 doesn't really have 5G though does it? It's got their own special processor which I'm sure isn't great, and 5G. You don't seem to be able to get 5G and the intel chip for some unknown reason (unless they've done the dirty on the UK which is a possibility I suppose). Plus you did miss the price. The whole price of the Surface 9 package is vastly higher than this. So it might be a better choice for people with less spare cash.

    • @yokayoksven
      @yokayoksven 2 года назад +1

      @@jonevansauthor I understand the price argument, but "Sufrace but cheaper" wasn't what I was expecting based on the clickbaity title. Also, you don't have to re-buy the pen and the keyboard between Surface generations (most of the time). As for 5G, I actually did know something. Surface 9 comes in 2 versions, Intel (without 5g) and SQ3 (with 5g). SQ3 is a Qualcomm Arm-based chip which has 5g and some AI cores for AI voice isolation and stuff, but it's also Windows on Arm with all downsides that come with it. Most programs do run on it, but everything that has to go through a translation layer runs like crap.

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor 2 года назад

      @@yokayoksven yes that's the weird bit about the the 5G. I really don't get why you wouldn't want it as an option on the Intel one too. It seems the wrong way around, given that everyone is excited about Windows on ARM being good one day but I've yet to hear anyone rave about it now.
      Sorry that you were disappointed that this isn't the same price, but much more powerful somehow. I can see how that would be more exciting for some people.
      Personally, I've just been hoping for something that's powerful enough for office productivity, has the correct detachable form factor so it can be my tablet as well as my laptop and potentially even serve as my work (not gaming) PC. But... without the enormous price tag.
      I'm very much looking forward to an LTT Lab future where I can easily compare such things. I know Lenovo and Huawei have a version (or three) atm but it's such a pain trying to work out what''s current and where the flaws are.

  • @fracorbas
    @fracorbas Год назад +1

    a good video. But as always in those video, people still dont get the interest of getting a thunderbolt 4. using a mouse that uses like ~10ko/s on a 40Gbs port is useless. The interest is :
    1 -> use an external GPU that will use most of that speed
    2 -> use a dongle to get what you need. In 1 port, I have 2 HDMI, 6 USB-A, 2 USB-C, 1 DP, 1 ethernet and it can charge my laptop. So with the XPS 13 plus, the other thunderbolt 4 is almost useless (you can use it if the first one stop working : )).
    So please stop considering that removing ports is bad. Because it allows Dell to get more space inside while being able to still use the same number of ports with a dongle. Well, you have to buy one after...

  • @Comisionado
    @Comisionado 2 года назад +646

    I'll still go with the Surface Pro because the Kickstand is built into the body. This enables you to easily angle the Surface in Tablet mode.

    • @explodingevo
      @explodingevo 2 года назад +10

      surface pro is still better

    • @MarcosParreira525
      @MarcosParreira525 2 года назад +10

      I'll still go with the Samsung Tab S7...

    • @incognitobandito244
      @incognitobandito244 2 года назад +15

      @Marcos Parreira I'm using my s7 plus from 2 years ago. Don't know why they didn't just do what samsung did and just had the folio magnetised to the back of the tablet.

    • @dethtour
      @dethtour 2 года назад +3

      I've had my surface pro for a few years and still going strong. But I ended up getting a z13. The performance is insane for a tablet. It has a separate cpu and gpu so it does an excellent job at gaming and productivity

    • @wyw201
      @wyw201 2 года назад +2

      @@MarcosParreira525 Does Dex support Windows desktop applications and does Dex’s version of Office support Powerquery?

  • @kindlad6087
    @kindlad6087 2 года назад +29

    as a work laptop sometimes sound with teams is screwey and i need emergency headphone jack access. this would be a no go. Oh well, my other dell has been very good for work. onedrive works for storage. idk why someone would use a 13 incher as their personal laptop. upgraded to 15 inches for work because excel on 13 inches is pure suffering

    • @Fabio53443
      @Fabio53443 2 года назад +3

      i went from a 13in to a 16in and it's soo much better.... for everything, even just writing word docs or a spreadsheet - or like using a browser while doing either of those things.

    • @bipbop3121
      @bipbop3121 2 года назад +1

      They spend more time carrying it around, traveling and or in meetings than heavy use (when they do really use it they dock with monitor(s).).

    • @bar1721
      @bar1721 2 года назад +2

      @@Fabio53443 same as going from 22 inch 1080p to 27 inch 4k. Working with many or big documents is always better up to about 27 inches.

    • @kindlad6087
      @kindlad6087 2 года назад +1

      @@bipbop3121 I travel and walk around a lot with my laptop, 15 inches is not a serious difference for me when it comes to weight and whatnot (for a work, non gamer laptop). Easily mobile. I do dock it at desks. Cheers to usb c it has changed the docking game in a great way. Also-every laptop sleeve space I’ve encountered handles 15 inches. The designers are enlightened too. Down with 13 inchers

    • @carltonbanks5470
      @carltonbanks5470 Год назад

      It has a dongle adapter that has DAC that comes with it.

  • @tiago98bastos
    @tiago98bastos 2 года назад +509

    It was strange not to have a conversion to kg when you were weighing the notebook, I always thought it was very good that you guys did the conversion for us

    • @KayvonJavid
      @KayvonJavid 2 года назад +97

      It would be nice if us in the US would switch to metric. I hate using imperial here in the US.

    • @tiago98bastos
      @tiago98bastos 2 года назад +16

      Yeah... I think you're not very lucky at this point, but it would be good for the whole world if they changed, it makes more sense.

    • @Sharp_Stone
      @Sharp_Stone 2 года назад +42

      If you bring out international video's you should be using scientific units. Like Milimeter, Centimeter, Meter, Grams, & Kilograms. It's outrageous.

    • @LeandroTravaglia
      @LeandroTravaglia 2 года назад +12

      Yeah. I guess they just forgot this time. Usually they always shows both units.

    • @khaledm.1476
      @khaledm.1476 2 года назад

      @@KayvonJavid The US have already dug their graves, as an engineering major so much engineering formulas are built with imperial so they would have to rewrite so much

  • @ghettoboi27
    @ghettoboi27 2 года назад +13

    Why are you not using metric measurements (for weights)?
    If you're gonna use one. Use the one that's widely accepted.
    Or show both. How hard is it?

    • @jkr9594
      @jkr9594 2 года назад +1

      YES.

    • @xqcLoL.
      @xqcLoL. 10 месяцев назад +2

      just as hard as you just searching it up on Google 🤣

  • @barnaka1
    @barnaka1 2 года назад +52

    I'd love to see comparing them to Thinkpads. The 10th gen Carbon is lighter, more upgradable, with more IO and even cheaper on sale...

    • @drishalballaney
      @drishalballaney 2 года назад +1

      hopefully 11th gen has better cooling

    • @rafalxyz
      @rafalxyz 2 года назад +1

      X1 carbon feels miles better than the xpses

    • @jmhm17
      @jmhm17 Год назад +2

      @@rafalxyz disagree by a long shot. the keyboard, trackpad, display and frame build of the XPS blows the X1 away all day long. XPS feels way more premium, and a level up in that regard over the X1

    • @Captain_Cinnamon
      @Captain_Cinnamon Год назад +1

      I eyeballed the carbon, if its for you - thats great but im personally not a man for that connection system. My sister had hers broke off

  • @asifhossain6280
    @asifhossain6280 6 месяцев назад +9

    You think this thing destroyed the Surface Pro? okay.

    • @overkillgaming1424
      @overkillgaming1424 18 дней назад +2

      I own a surface pro and by far nothing no device beats the battery power to performance that it provides

  • @yeetisnomore
    @yeetisnomore 2 года назад +5

    6:05 metric measurements too, shortcircuit! metric measurements too!
    XPS 13: 1.169 kg
    XPS 13 Plus: 1.266 kg
    XPS 13 2-in-1: 1.315 kg

  • @gsr_9978
    @gsr_9978 2 года назад +15

    Have an 9510 and looked at the dell website while looking at this video. their prices exploded here in germany. the 9520 is five hundred euros more then my 9510. im shocked i have to say.

    • @kuby4365
      @kuby4365 Месяц назад

      Lohnt sich so ein Laptop/Tablet bitte ehrlich sein :)

  • @JCUDOS
    @JCUDOS 2 года назад +56

    I recently learned Colton is head of ShortCircuit so thanks for deciding to add the pricing part Colton!
    Hope you don't get fired!
    Oh and thanks for greenlighting the Linus body pillow, that shit was hilarious!

    • @JCUDOS
      @JCUDOS 2 года назад +7

      Not sure where I heard Colton was head of ShortCircuit, I think I misheard a part of Jeff's Extreme Tech Upgrade.
      Anyway, thanks to whoever decided to add the pricing segment!

    • @ChaoticAuthority
      @ChaoticAuthority 2 года назад

      Previously it was jono, he went to mkbhd
      Guess it's Colton now

    • @samdussia
      @samdussia 2 года назад

      @@ChaoticAuthority Oh really?! Where did you hear that?

  • @1chiTheKiller
    @1chiTheKiller 2 года назад +257

    I just got the Asus ROG Flow Z13. Absolute beast for the size, has better specs than a similarly specced Surface Pro, has an Nvidia GPU, costs less than both the Surface Pro and the MacBook, oh and it has a headphone jack and USB-A port. You can also expand the storage with a micro SD card, and the hard drive is user upgradable. It's a bit thicker and heavier than the other 2 in 1 devices, but it's WAY more versatile. I'm glad I went with that one.

    • @scotthayes5386
      @scotthayes5386 2 года назад +12

      I love my flow too! It’s such a better deal than the xps or mac, and has such better performance and fearure

    • @tams805
      @tams805 2 года назад +27

      Yeah, but the battery life is dire.

    • @kimyang5422
      @kimyang5422 2 года назад

      I got My Rog flow x13 with egpu 3080,the best for My 3AAA gaming with 3dwork

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 2 года назад

      @@kimyang5422 김金 양養

    • @日暮卯白
      @日暮卯白 2 года назад +7

      "and it has a headphone jack"

  • @jippalippa
    @jippalippa 2 года назад +22

    The omission of a headphone jack would be bearable if wireless headphones worked decently on windows...
    Despite having windows 11 and 2 bluetooth 5.3 perhipherals (both the laptop and the headphones), I cannot get rid of audio delay...
    Extremely annoying.

    • @mihailoaleksic3330
      @mihailoaleksic3330 2 года назад

      My dad has used wireless headphones on his Windows 7 PC and the delay was so big that he got new wired ones

    • @amunak_
      @amunak_ 2 года назад +8

      It's still inexcusable. Like ... why? There's plenty of space, it costs nothing. And I'm pissed about the lack of USB-A, too.

    • @gqqggq7127
      @gqqggq7127 2 года назад

      The io is just straight up shit

    • @BlindMango
      @BlindMango 2 года назад

      Perhaps it’s time for USB-C headphones to become more prevalent

    • @StellarJay77
      @StellarJay77 2 года назад

      @@BlindMango This is the real answer as the DAC would move into the headphones so could be properly tuned for whatever driver setup and acoustic profile fits for that particular headset provided the manufacturer actually knows what they are doing.

  • @delbroox
    @delbroox Год назад +1

    Dell will never destroy anything. Have a Surface Pro 3 that is 9 years old and while a bit slow it never had a single problem. Spent £2400 on an XPS15 for heavy work, and had soooo many issues here and there, overall really annoying ownership experience. Not buying dell ever again. Microsoft asks quite a lot for surface devices, but it's worth the price in my opinion.

  • @SpookySkeletonGang
    @SpookySkeletonGang 2 года назад +26

    On a phone removing the headphone jack to save space isn't great but I can live with it. But on a laptop, it's a deal breaker. Windows/Macos handle wireless headphones A LOT worse then phones do, and on top of that when I'm using a full computer there's a very good chance I'll want to use my studio headphones, maybe I just want an audio out to some speakers, any number of things.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 2 года назад +1

      Not to mention that Bluetooth headphones don't switch over very nicely between Windows and Android (or Windows and anything for that matter)

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 2 года назад

      @@passive101 They work fine with Bluetooth *in isolation*, the problem is the instant you want 2 devices to both talk to a set of headphones, because for some reason proper multi target pairing support is still tricky to find in Bluetooth headphones.

    • @StellarJay77
      @StellarJay77 2 года назад

      USB C to 3.5mm is still included and having the DAC external like that and you can litterally use whichever one you want which is typically miles better than any internal DAC included with the audio chip in a laptop.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 2 года назад

      @@StellarJay77 That tiny dongle makes me think that either the DAC is still internal and they just don't have a separate jack (there's a USB C extension that lets it carry analogue audio signals) in which case the signal routing through the laptop would leave it more prone to interference than a dedicated jack, or that it's going to be worse than a modern integrated DAC, since it's way too small to have the same kind of hardware as a high end dedicated DAC.

  • @alphacompton
    @alphacompton 2 года назад +108

    The built in mic on the 2-1 is exceptional and the camera is excellent from your video sample. Look like a better buy especially if it's cheaper than the Surface pro.

    • @wandpapir
      @wandpapir 2 года назад +5

      Way more expensive

    • @sapper_12_z16
      @sapper_12_z16 2 года назад +14

      Surface Pro is much more powerful. Paired with a docking station it rivals many desktops. Really no comparison especially considering Dell's horrible customer service and shady business practices. I tend to steer as far away from Dell as possible.

    • @Way2go926
      @Way2go926 9 месяцев назад

      @@sapper_12_z16but I’ve seen many companies using dell laptops for their office workers lol

  • @anonymoususerinterface
    @anonymoususerinterface 2 года назад +17

    Personally as someone that uses there 2 in 1, HP Envy x360, I prefer the build of an actual 2 in 1, where I can use it as an actual Laptop, and when I am at school, I can use it as my tablet that i write on. The fact that mine has 2 USB-C, 2 USB-A, a Headphone jack and SD card reader, both i have never used, as well as the HDMI, that i also use occasionally, all just for £780 pounds, so i found this an amazing deal, also, the radeon processor, is also pretty good for some light gaming, such as fortnite at middle to low but nice settings!

    • @4n0nmann5
      @4n0nmann5 2 года назад +2

      same, but the one mistake (maybe?) I made was buying an 15'6 display. This thing really can't be used as a tablet to take notes, it just doesn't fit in my tiny hands.

    • @sillypig212
      @sillypig212 2 года назад +1

      I do this as well, I bought the previous year's model so I got mine for around £650. I use the headphone jack to listen to music when studying between classes (cheap wired as a student has got to save when they can! 😂)

    • @BakrAli10
      @BakrAli10 2 года назад

      Bookmark comment later

  • @ecomputersltd
    @ecomputersltd 2 года назад +1

    check the prices on ebay, we have the latest XPS models at massively reduced prices

    • @ecomputersltd
      @ecomputersltd 2 года назад

      www.youtube.com/@ecomputersltd/about

  • @pyroslev
    @pyroslev 2 года назад +12

    I can always trust Alex to properly rip ANY laptop apart verbally as much as Steve at GN rips into any Prefab desktop.

  • @DerSolinski
    @DerSolinski 2 года назад +30

    The screen ratio of the 2-1 isn't actually that weird.
    It's pretty close to the ratio of the Din A format.
    So this was probably chosen to display documents more true to nature.
    This will help a lot with the pen input.

    • @LloydDunamis
      @LloydDunamis 2 года назад +3

      Agreed 3:2 is not that uncommon; though Alex speaks about the resolution (2880x1920).

  • @CricketEngland
    @CricketEngland Год назад +4

    I have the XPS 13 Plus (9320) with a core i7, 1TB ssd and 32gb memory and it’s a very good compact machine and does all I need very well and much better than my old 17” HP Spectre x360
    Love the fact it automatically starts up when you pull the screen up

  • @Ryanstuff
    @Ryanstuff 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why do people make a huge deal out of a 3.5 mm headphone jack missing if you are given a dongle? Just attach the dongle to the set of headphones you always use and it's a non-issue. Only time I can see it being a minor problem is if you are always changing different style headphones and forget the dongle but I imagine most people like to use either Bluetooth in which case the dongle doesn't matter or if they use over the ear they just have the dongle attached to that over the ear set. Am I missing something here?

  • @Pro720HyperMaster720
    @Pro720HyperMaster720 2 года назад +7

    14:38 I can see right there that they could easily, easily used M.2 2230 as other devices like the Steam Deck the latest Surface/s etc.

  • @bondjovi4595
    @bondjovi4595 Месяц назад +1

    Surface should have seen it coming a longtime ago. Especially with the popularity of the Dell Venue 11.

  • @stephenroberts2526
    @stephenroberts2526 Год назад +5

    With only two I/O/Power ports and no post purchase upgrade options for storage and RAM, these are a really tough sells at any price point for me. Bluetooth can take care of headphones, but being capped on storage and RAM from the day it is built, is just really close to a deal breaker.

  • @mangosmakemesmilee5164
    @mangosmakemesmilee5164 11 месяцев назад +1

    One thing I’m curious about the 2in1, or surface pro is, can they install programs off of internet browsers like a normal computer running windows?
    Or does it require special applications from app stores like iOS or google play?
    Want a tablet that can run blender since none of the good design apps I’ve come across on iOS are free or one time purchases. There’s some free options available but they all have certain key features missing.
    Also for the potential to be used as a laptop like what was tried around 8:05, dell could pretty simply design a different keyboard that supports the screen.

  • @krishnaSagar69
    @krishnaSagar69 2 года назад +4

    Every new laptop destroys old laptop.

  • @rcx0dus825
    @rcx0dus825 2 года назад +5

    I recently bought an ASUS zenbook pro 14 duo OLED for 1840 euros. Every single laptop showcase on shortcircuit of laptops from the same price category have made me feel really good about my purchasing decision.
    It honestly baffles me how little you get for such exorbitant amounts of money.

  • @mr.cookedfish9978
    @mr.cookedfish9978 2 года назад +14

    I thought you switched to metric? 🤔

  • @JaySee5
    @JaySee5 2 года назад +11

    Previous 2in1 was objectively better. More screen angles, better processor, better ports and placements.

  • @Devestatix
    @Devestatix 2 года назад +8

    No conversions from lbs to grams? I thought you were better than this

  • @HughRussell06
    @HughRussell06 Год назад +1

    Just bought a sky XPS 13 with the core i7, 16gb ram and 512gb of storage (with the non touch display) and it’s great so far. I bought it on sale at JB HI FI here in Australia where it was $480 off, but I managed to negotiate $30 off for a $510 discount off of full price (RRP $2399 aud, I paid $1890 aud) which is a huge saving

  • @markcabico
    @markcabico 2 года назад +22

    My surface 8 has a audio jack and integrated kickstand. I feel that the surface 8 is a better deal overall.

  •  Год назад

    As a Surface Pro 7 user I have a few takes, and some might be hot.
    - Having the kickstand built in is way better, and can also cover wider range of angles
    - Surface Pros might not come with the pen and keyboard, but they have pretty good cross compatibility. So these are more of a one time expense for multiple devices.
    - The newer Pros have upgradable SSDs
    - Mine has a headphone jack and a USB-C port, and I basically always use a dongle. The donle makes the in line remotes work, which is somehow still not a thing for built in headphone jacks.
    - The Surface competitors might be competitively priced in the States with their constant discounts, but this is not the case for the rest of the world, so there they're usually more expensive.
    - The Surface has a magnetic charger

  • @eric----
    @eric---- 2 года назад +39

    Great video Alex. Dell is definitely off my list of options if they keep choosing to keep this lack of io port path.

  • @CKnight88
    @CKnight88 2 года назад

    @1:21 you didn't blur the shipping label. I think earlier you did though. Just a heads up if you didn't know.

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 2 года назад +8

    It is so annoying that less gadgets have headphone jacks now I can kind of understand on a phone but not large tablets or laptops

    • @amunak_
      @amunak_ 2 года назад +4

      Clearly there isn't enough space and it can't be waterproofed! /s
      I'm actually pissed it doesn't have USB-A ports either. Like, there's no reason to not have those (and the jack and maybe an SD card reader). I'd otherwise be probably buying it.

  • @PampersNorway
    @PampersNorway Год назад +1

    Was looking to replace my older HP Envy, but no 3,5mm is a dealbreaker, AND in adition to that there is just not enough ports. Like, if you are charging you got like one port before you end up in dongle hell. I am far enough into dongle hell as it is.
    If only there was an higher speced variant similar to the Envy that have a 16;10 screen.

  • @Lumilicious
    @Lumilicious 2 года назад +4

    15:20 you could still compare it to the M1 Air with 16GB RAM which is in that price range and is still an exceptional laptop, the M1 is also still a bit faster than the i5 1230U (at least according to the benchmarks I found). The only issue is the dated design of the M1 Air.

    • @BH4x0r
      @BH4x0r 2 года назад

      well the design isn't the only issue, Mac is another one of 'em, especially when you're not in the Apple ecosystem either way and most programs you use often don't exist on Mac and you've always used Windows or Linux it makes very little sense to buy something with Mac.

    • @mkteku
      @mkteku Год назад

      A great design is a timeless design. So how is that an "issue"?!

    • @mkteku
      @mkteku Год назад

      @@BH4x0r I got a Mac after using only Windows. Most apps are available on the Mac too, I found, and for those that are not, there's great alternatives. (And I have and Android phone, so no ecosystem for me.) Also have a Surface Pro. I cobble together my own ecosystem and I love it.

    • @Lumilicious
      @Lumilicious Год назад

      @@mkteku The ginormous bezels on the old Macbooks are extremely dated by todays standards and by no means timeless... this is even more apparent when you have both a new MBA/Pro and the old one and see them side by side.
      It's kinda like putting the 2018 MBA besides the 2016 MBA... you know, the 2016 which had the humongous white bezels.

    • @BH4x0r
      @BH4x0r Год назад

      @@mkteku Mac is nowhere near as broken/locked as iOS is, you can actually easily transfer stuff between Mac and Android, but iOS and Windows or Linux is a living nightmare, i'm pretty sure thats almost intentional to get people to buy everything Apple after they paid way too much on their iPhone and iPad
      i still don't like Mac personally but it's decent enough, especially compared to the mobile counterparts
      I don't like cloud based file transfer, so i would need to install iTunes to move files, and if you'll ever want your contacts to move to Android for example you'll have to log in on iCloud and download them manually via the website, ánd with Android devices you can generally just connect one to another via usb to transfer all apps, photo's, contacts and stuff
      much easier

  • @UrbenLegend
    @UrbenLegend Год назад +3

    How's the thermal throttling on the 2-in-1? One of my biggest complaints about the Surface line was that it throttled heavily which tanked performance.

  • @astro143_
    @astro143_ Год назад +6

    I have the XPS 13 2 in 1 from 2019 when it was a dual core with passive cooling. I absolutely love the form factor and function of the 360 hinge, this new tablet style just looks cheap in comparison.
    Now I barely use that laptop because I never got to travel with it due to the pandemic and a dual core machine struggles to update windows or launch Chrome, but it's such a pretty device.

  • @JerziTBoss
    @JerziTBoss 2 года назад +1

    No headphone jack on a Laptop? WTF even Apple includes audio jack on Macbooks. Damn it Dell.
    Also I don't like stand as part of the case not as part of the tables... It doesn't look that stable even on table and it straight out fails on the lap. I don't find it that usable.
    Soldered RAM and SSD are just pure dealbreaker for me...

  • @xnutzii
    @xnutzii 2 года назад +6

    You guys forgot to censor the address with the XPS 13 at the beginning (0:17)

    • @pieceofshitzu2
      @pieceofshitzu2 2 года назад

      Linus personally moons every trespasser on LTT HQ.
      I believe the tally of deaths is over 100.

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson 2 года назад +1

    I really don't understand the hate for no headphone jack, when you have headsets like the Anker Soundcore Q35--with *excellent* noise cancellation, by the way--that can hit $99 on sale. Why tether yourself with something that is going to drain your laptop's battery?

  • @Baggytrousers27
    @Baggytrousers27 2 года назад +3

    Presumably the dual usb c arrangement on the 2 in 1 is for the macbook air style dongle hubs? Also how strange does the phrase dongle hub sound?

    • @Zantrop64
      @Zantrop64 2 года назад +1

      "dongle hub" sounds like just acceptance that the free market can't bring nice things to the table 😭

    • @Baggytrousers27
      @Baggytrousers27 2 года назад +1

      Sounds about right. Would rather have something included, and not need it, than need it, and not have it.

  • @thenubianspeaks4329
    @thenubianspeaks4329 29 дней назад +1

    This guy gets over 2 million views, unbeleivable.

  • @bastost
    @bastost 2 года назад +5

    I wish LTT also made reviews with developers in mind, every developer I know is always thinking about buying a new laptop :D

  • @zachypoo89
    @zachypoo89 2 года назад +1

    I have a surface pro and I’ll just say that at least it still has a headphone Jack and the charger doesn’t take up one of the precious two C ports

  • @iemozzomei
    @iemozzomei 2 года назад +4

    I'm dying to see Alex try the Yoga7 gen7. Especially with an eGPU

  • @ApplesOfEpicness
    @ApplesOfEpicness Год назад +1

    I refuse to call this type of design a 2-in-1. It’s a tablet with a folio keyboard. It feels absolutely terrible as a laptop, and having dealt with a bunch of issues with similar products in the past, I’ll never use one again. Please bring back the old 2-in-1 design Dell.

  • @NonsensicalSpudz
    @NonsensicalSpudz 2 года назад +5

    they removed the headphone jack on a laptop???

  • @slawomirkulinski
    @slawomirkulinski Год назад

    Real downside of XPS 13 is it's mic is not directional. If you stand behind MBP and say something mic will probably not pic it up at all. XPS captures everything because it's mic is on the top edge of the screen (see 5:00). Occasional visit to the busy office turns you day into muting mic exercise.

  • @javanmonroe6064
    @javanmonroe6064 2 года назад +10

    I’ve always loved these laptop reviews just to stay up to date with tech, but I’m finally finding my life has gotten to the point that I NEED a laptop. Thanks for these!!!

    • @AntonioNoack
      @AntonioNoack 2 года назад

      Yeah, but please check out the HP x360 with over this one... my R7 4700U, 16+512GB, has more IO, a headphone jack, non-soldered storage, is cheaper and otherwise functionally identical... also a 2-in-1, 13" in size

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Год назад

      I have the XPS 13 Plus (9320) with a core i7, 1TB ssd and 32gb memory and it’s a very good compact machine and does all I need very well and much better than my old 17” HP Spectre x360
      Love the fact it automatically starts up when you pull the screen up

    • @javanmonroe6064
      @javanmonroe6064 Год назад

      @@CricketEngland oh I’m not looking at anything like this, I just like their laptop content and have always watched it even when I thought laptops were dumb.

  • @panasonikkuho
    @panasonikkuho Год назад +1

    legit stopped the video after the reveal of both models needing a 3.5 dongle, massive fail for professional usage. (I do conference AV + mobile DJ for example)

  • @mithos56
    @mithos56 2 года назад +8

    When you guys preview a 2 in 1 other other laptops with a pen, I'd love to get some artists impressions on the quality of the pen!

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin Год назад

      Tho 50 days of charge is actually not good at all. My Chinese crowdfunded tablet uses XP Pen pens that use regular AA Batteries and one lasts me over a year with drawing 2 days a week and the ones using Wacom technology don't need to be charged. Pens that need their own power source have been hit and miss larely. The HP Pen technology has been really bad but the iPad pro pen is really good. You can't really show it on youtube, you have to go to some kind of Best Buy and try it yourself.

  • @ren3081
    @ren3081 11 месяцев назад +1

    Does it have a SIM card slot?

  • @HydrarDraconis
    @HydrarDraconis 2 года назад +3

    Would love to see your take on the Thinkpad T14/16 compared to the XPS, apparently they made their keyboards worse to make it thinner again.

  • @Thomas-VA
    @Thomas-VA 2 года назад

    As a dell business customer of a decade plus, there is always the wait and see how the machine degrades as the warranty end nears, did you get what you ordered when you ordered or did they switch out anything, were you even able to order without them mysteriously not having the part anymore to complete your order so it's canceled and dude, you're getting a Dell . . so.

  • @corktail7900
    @corktail7900 2 года назад +6

    should have rolled credits as soon as alex revealed the headphone jack dongle

  • @Scinner14
    @Scinner14 2 года назад

    I'm using an Asus Zenbook flip 13 OLED for about half a year, and it don't have headphone jack as well. But for the last 2 years i'm using wireless headsets and headphones on the go. But when i'm at home, I have a thunderbolt dock with ethernet and jack, so it's not that bat of a situation.

  • @james8606
    @james8606 Год назад +5

    It's great to see more 3rd party's doing a kind of Surface of device but with their own engineering to them. I still think the surface kickstand is one to beat but Lonovo, Dell and HP all have some nice alternatives on the market.

  • @SirNoahBob
    @SirNoahBob Год назад

    14:10
    I have a 2018 XPS 13 9370 and it plays Minecraft fine at low settings. Being able to play Minecraft is a valid perk but it can be down with older higher end notebooks.

  • @m4ster_root
    @m4ster_root 2 года назад +5

    I must have seen another video because I fail to see where it "destroys" the Surface Pro...
    Just like with the Surface Pro 9, it doesn't have any headphone jack... I'd stick with the Surface Pro 8!
    The kickstand of a Surface Pro is amazing! I use it a lot without the keyboard attached. The angle is not only wider but also more smooth. And I've simply never liked magnetic stands.
    I own four Asus portable monitors and although three of them supports the fancy kickstand (and other compatible mounts) I only have one of those and the magnetic stands are just horrible.
    The Surface Pro 9 even have a better CPU 1255U vs 1250U for the i7 versions and 1235U vs 1230U for the i5 versions.
    They both have a 3:2 screen @ 2880 X 1920 but the Surface Pro 9 is 120 Hz while the XPS 2-in-1 is 60 Hz...
    If price is a concern and you can get the XPS cheaper, then do that. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
    I had to dislike this video because I'm tired of clickbait. I really though Dell had made something impressive, but it's nothing but a Surface clone. It's fine, but not really destroying anything!

  • @beckinbinderin
    @beckinbinderin Год назад

    We bought 5x Dell 5290 tablet 2 in 1s. All five, every single one, eventually had a screen issue to the lower section of the device. No touch. We decided to keep with the Surface range from that point forward. The quality from the Dell 'copies' simply wasn't there. Sure, the new device(s) might have improved, but I doubt it. Dell destroying the Surface line? Nah. They'd never commit to spending that type of cash.

  • @szalaigabor1714
    @szalaigabor1714 2 года назад +7

    WTF is this port selection?!
    My flippin' tablet has more IO than both computers combined! (I have a Dell Latitude 5175 from 7 years ago.)
    I have USB-C, USB-A, 3.5mm jack, SD slot, SIM slot (LTE baby), and a reaplaceable NVMe 2280 inside while the tablet is opening from the back!
    I was about to find my new tablet for the last 2 years. Basic expectations: USB-A, Jack, replaceable storage and back entry. Every time a new tablet gets introduced I get more and more attached to my Skylake-4GB latitude.
    Disappointing.
    Edit: Yeah, 10.1" 10h battery (when new) and extended battery (double the runtime) in one of the 2 keyboard options.

    • @kyhlnuar
      @kyhlnuar Год назад +1

      Same opinion here.

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII Год назад +1

      You safe production money and make more profit you Facebook /Fortnite generation sheep.

    • @szalaigabor1714
      @szalaigabor1714 Год назад

      @@IIISentorIII Considering it's a business class device (Latitude) profit should never be the number one consideration. Make it more expensive I don't care. Just make it good.

  • @FlyboyHelosim
    @FlyboyHelosim 2 года назад

    From a lot of these comments, one thing is very clear... people don't understand that not all laptops are the same and target very specific sectors of the market. Some people seem to want a painfully thin 13" laptop to be some sort of engineering or gaming workhorse with every port imaginable and every major component upgradeable. This is obviously not the case and there are laptops for those purposes. Dell, for example, have five major laptop lines and even more including sub-series. There's a reason for that. Think about it.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 2 года назад +5

    The second I saw that it was a Dell XPS in my notifications, I knew Alex would be the one covering it.

  • @marienvincent9390
    @marienvincent9390 2 года назад

    I have a latitude 5290 2 in 1 i bought 500€ as used, this thing is really good. i7 8650u, 16gb of ram, 512gb m.2 ssd, 1920*1200 screen, 1 usb a 3.0, 2 type c thunderbolt, a jack (!!!) and even a sim slot for 4G. the kickstand is on the tablet itself and has a big angle of oppening, and the stylus is good too(2 AAA battery). I think it was only a laptop buyable by companies for their workers, so it is a bit hard to find. I take my class with, and it is just perfect, i can play some game with it too. Dell made a good job here.

  • @GeFlixes
    @GeFlixes 2 года назад +3

    Anything where the kickstand is not part of the tablet isn't a full Surface Pro contender for me. A major use case for me is only tablet with pen, and using the tablet at a very high angle. Feels like you're on an angled writing desk, and is the most comfy thing ever in meetings and lectures to write on.

  • @SuperDesignguy
    @SuperDesignguy 2 года назад

    In the USA, I paid $1099 + $220 for SP9 i5 16/256 and Signature keyboard with pen by purchasing it at Costco and having Bestbuy Price match amazon for the keyboard/pen. So far I love this thing. And the price wasn't too bad. Plus Costco includes an additional year of warranty.

  • @tams805
    @tams805 2 года назад +3

    No 3.5mm socket (get f-ed Dell). Not Wacom EMR. That stand is not going to be fun, but will do (I use a Samsung with a similar way to prop it up - it's okay at best).

  • @nelsonmcnamara
    @nelsonmcnamara 2 года назад

    is there a teardown of the 2-in-1? last time the 2-in-1 was fanless, but I can see the fan at least in the laptop.

  • @dip1697
    @dip1697 2 года назад +4

    I am literally just looking at one on their website for $1449 with i7-1250U, 16gb ram, and folio + pen 😭😭
    Perfect timing
    Might be my next laptop cuz I really want a good 2-in-1 but Surface sucks (overpriced and underspecced) and any other use either ARM or the latest level cpu possible

    • @lonelyone69
      @lonelyone69 2 года назад

      I got the huawei matebook e i5 for £600 maybe look at that

    • @dip1697
      @dip1697 2 года назад

      @@lonelyone69 I live in the US :(

    • @lonelyone69
      @lonelyone69 2 года назад

      @@dip1697 f

    • @Vegatablez
      @Vegatablez 2 года назад

      Maybe look at the rog flow or wait until the new lenovo yoga with ryzen 6000 comes to the US

    • @dip1697
      @dip1697 2 года назад

      @@Vegatablez the Yoga's aren't 2-in-1 tho right? Already have a 360 hinge laptop

  • @justindavis7791
    @justindavis7791 9 месяцев назад

    I bought the Dell 13" 2 in 1. The speaker was blown, and the back of the screen got so hot you could fry an egg on it. The protruding camera on the back makes it wobble when trying to draw on it as well. I had to send it back, and I am now rethinking my choice.

  • @jorismak
    @jorismak 2 года назад +354

    Hearing this, besides the 6 hour battery 😉, ik so happy with my asus flow z13. Actually usable as laptop , more power than the 13+.. and a headphone jack (but not much more ). Also , that type Cover from Asus is somehow the keyboard i beat my monkey type record with ...

    • @vivekvs1992
      @vivekvs1992 2 года назад +50

      Kinda weird the asus flow series is just ignored in most comparisons... Its possibly one of the best ways for someone who wants to work and game but don't want to keep 2 separate systems for it..

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak 2 года назад +21

      @@vivekvs1992 far from a perfect device... But by far the perfect device for me :). And the pricing is a bit steep , but the boss paid . This 13" laptop/tablet replaced my Ryzen 2700x/gtx1060 desktop machine , since it beats it just in performance (without dlss ). And i can do photo work on it, and i can use it for work... I just need a battery bank when i have to sit 6 hours in a train for a conference

    • @mcslender2965
      @mcslender2965 2 года назад +1

      @@jorismak Are you considering the ROG external graphics dock? I imagine it would boost your gaming experience even harder

    • @vivekvs1992
      @vivekvs1992 2 года назад +2

      @@jorismak I was telling my brother to get that when he went to college and give me his ancient alienware(gtx980mobile)... Unfortunately it was out of stock and we ended up with an Asus tuf series.. Still pretty good..he can take them for presentations without anyone raising an eyebrow.. And I can push for 1-2 more years on the alienware as a desktop replacement..

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 2 года назад

      Also 500 dollars more.

  • @pr3zidentcarter
    @pr3zidentcarter Год назад

    1:05 it was the end of 2022 by the time this video was made. Can we please stop getting upset with no headphone jack being included. They included the dingle if you really need it but man I haven’t needed to use my 3.5mm headphones in so long because there are so many great Bluetooth options especially when using a laptop or tablet. I personally use those devices on the go and not being plugged into anything is great. Am I alone in this or am I making sense?

  • @electricmiragemedia
    @electricmiragemedia 2 года назад +3

    I just want a headphone jack.

  • @drangertornado
    @drangertornado Год назад

    I wonder how durable the XPS hinges are? I have seen the hinge mounts break away from the backcover.

  • @Gogsom
    @Gogsom 2 года назад +4

    Also the 2-in-1 is the perfect quiet option since it's fanless! Perfect choice for auto booths! 😎

  • @cgott42
    @cgott42 Год назад

    Does the 2 in 1 allow you to put the tablet in portrait mode and magnetically stick to the keyboard dock to allow for tilting it back?

  • @LaidBackDeveloper
    @LaidBackDeveloper 2 года назад +7

    The stylus looks pretty similar to samsung's s-pen

    • @scio7838
      @scio7838 2 года назад +4

      Not really, the s-pen is a lot thinner and it also uses much better tech for the tracking

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin Год назад

      @@scio7838 Depends on the generation. The old ISD pens were interchangable with slates, usb monitors and the old Surface. They also didn't need to be charged.

  • @MegaLPTV
    @MegaLPTV 2 года назад

    Yo when did you start using freedom units for weighing without the metric conversions

  • @NahidHasanSupto
    @NahidHasanSupto 2 года назад +47

    Too much unnecessary talks rather than reviewing the product.

    • @Pikm4n
      @Pikm4n 3 месяца назад

      Agreed

  • @SherpaForTech
    @SherpaForTech Год назад +1

    That keyboard looks just like my macbook pros...

  • @udvarhelyibalint
    @udvarhelyibalint Год назад

    what do you need back camera on a Windows tablet for other than to make it wobble when you try to use it flat on a desk

  • @georgescircle
    @georgescircle 2 месяца назад

    Is there a reason you are compelled to continually look to your left?

  • @SC-mf1gc
    @SC-mf1gc Год назад

    Does this exist yet, kr is it already gone? Cant find it on Newegg, Bestbuy, Canada computers. It isnt even listed as out of stock

  • @arcadiosincero
    @arcadiosincero Год назад

    Why would you want the i5 over the i7? Battery consumption? Fan noise? Trying to figure out what I want and my default stance has always been "go big or go home".

  • @hakz07
    @hakz07 Год назад

    after a couple of years the hinge on both mine and my brothers xps 15 broke on one side. So it would push open the bottom plate when i opened or closed the lid, also dislodging the power slot

  • @dennisgoogle7840
    @dennisgoogle7840 Год назад

    What is that supercool transparant laptop the editor guy sitting next to the camera has? superinterested what it is.

  • @StellarJay77
    @StellarJay77 2 года назад

    Alex you really have to get with modern times. In new laptop/portable PC setups a 3.5mm headphone jack with accompanying internal DAC is much more complicated now in such small form factors to isolate from internal power interference and actually sound good. USB C to 3.5mm can be generations better in quality and realistically people are moving more and more towards wireless solutions or full external studio DAC's if using laptops for high end audio work. So fewer and fewer people are actually using a 3.5mm headphone output now anyway.

  • @AlTheEngineer
    @AlTheEngineer 2 года назад

    What about the back camera on the 2 in 1? Did you try it?

  • @lingth
    @lingth Год назад

    do they still make headphones with 3.5mm jack these days??

  • @reptilez13
    @reptilez13 2 года назад +1

    I just could never spend that much money on a laptop I can't upgrade at all and only has 2 ports. That DAC is worthless if I have to have a Thunderbolt Dock/Dongle/Whatever. The 2in1 is understandable for specific workloads tho I suppose.