iPad Pro 2018 vs Surface Pro 6 - Which One to Get?
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One of these 2 devices has COMPLETELY replaced my 12" MacBook & my 2017 10.5" iPad Pro! 😁
ZONEofTECH For the pen, I prefer surface pen with physical changeable battery ~
I've got the 2017 10.5" ipad Dan, love it, especially since the last update, can't justify upgrading until next September, iphone deffinitly, not sure re ipad, maybe, will see what next year's is capable of, I'll be watching your space! 😉 from UK 🇬🇧
You are comparing 2 tablets by talking about the laptop side of them
What's the battery life in surface pro 6.
ZONEofTECH I love your chAnnel !! You are the best !!
Dude. Surface pen's battery can last up to a year so why bother charging the battery built inside? And also there is no need to worry about the decline of battery life overtime. So yes. Replaceable battery in 2018 is still better.
Joe Z this is Microsoft answer why they use regular battery, it's a valid reason tho and for me it's better use regular battery than chargeable battery ""With rechargeable batteries, you're assuming you are going to have time to charge it before you use it. For us, we believe creativity will strike at any moment and you'll want to know your pen is going to work without having to plug it in to charge it first""
I just upgraded my SP4 to the SP6. I paired my SP4 pen with the 6 and I am still using the original battery.
Oh wow... so true
I agree. An iPad’s pen always needs to recharge while I’ve never have to deal with that on my surface pro.
Look at my comment on this video... I came up with a solution...
ipad if you already got a laptop, surface if you need a laptop :)
Exactly.
In my perspective, Surface is just a laptop. Touch screen feels like crap, and it’s damn heavy to hold it in one hand.
@@xmark1440 don't really know since i don't have one but still. Don't get an ipad if you think it can replace a laptop.
Sayid Abyan Not really. I’m still keeping my old laptop for media, gaming, and downloading things from the internet. And that’s literally the things that iPad lacks. PC exclusive things. But this laptop is driving me a bit crazy. Constant bugs in windows and that messy file system (my fault for not organizing it, but now it’s beyond my capabilities)
It’s just when I leave my house, I’ll be carrying an iPad Pro instead of the heavier laptop. Most things would be done on the iPad, and the laptop would come in handy in case something can’t be done on iPad. And now I’m able to actually draw stuff, so easily with the iPad. For my case and my case only, iPad actually gets more stuff done compared to my laptop.
Thanks for your advice though. It’s just that I won’t simply throw away the old laptop. I’ll keep regardless which new device I get.
@@xmark1440 my point exactly :). Don't get me wrong, this ipad is an extremely good product and yea sometimes you can do stuff faster from ipad than a laptop but it's not a proper laptop replacement, not yet anyway.
Watched this video... and went out to Costco and got the surface pro 6 i5 processor with 8gb ram and a 128 ssd with keyboard and pen included for $799.00! Plus they give you a 2 year warranty! Unbelievable
LOL! That was quick :))
What!!! I kept mentioning the Costco worker about the warranty and they said that they didn’t offer that and that I had to pay additionally. I got mine on Friday
I just purchased mine at Costco website because using your Discover card will get 5% cash back. So I'm getting $40+. They don't accept Discover cards in the stores anymore. However, if you have the Citi Costco card, you can get 4% cash back if you an an executive member, but that cost $120 per year.
omg! thank you for this! This is such a good deal. :D Trying to cop one now.
It's on their web site... and if you put it on the Costco credit cad Citi you get another two years on top of the two that Costco gives you!
I wanted a Surface for so long and last year I replaced my 2012 MacBook Pro for the Surface pro 5. I could not be any happier with my purchase. Microsoft just keeps getting better and better with hardware.
IMaLILtPOT isn’t the hardware better on the iPad Pro?
Edit: jk I think you meant software
f96 no I meant hardware. They are getting better each iteration. iPad Pro hardware is great too, but costs a fortune in comparison. And iOS limits the hardwares capability. And yes windows is getting better and better.
awesome! I think I'm getting a Pro 5 do you like yours still?
Atlas09 C. I love it. Had it a year.
You Never had a MacBook Pro 😉
It's just like apple created worlds fastest car and put a speed cap of 35 miles an hour
actually not, the a12x is arm based chip and thats why they use them on ios devices, i can assure it cant even handle macos let alone comparing it a i5 running windows or macos
NonyaBusiness! Clearly an average consumer like you who only would use an iPad for browsing the internet and watching youtube would not get the iPad Pro, but the baseline iPad. It’s obvious why you don’t understand the higher price point.
@NonyaBusiness! Exactly saying that ipad renders 4k videos ......... thats just a stupid way to promote a ipad as a laptop replacement. Almost all the people who will buy it will never use it for 4k video render
NonyaBusiness! Your background doesn’t change your status as an average consumer that would only use an iPad for simple daily activities. A device that is capable of having 1TB of storage along with a processor that is made to make it compatible with heavy professional applications is not a device that is for “media consumption” or average users (again, like you). The price is very well justified: 1TB of storage, 6GB of RAM, FaceID (which now works in all orientations to facilitate unlocking for people who use the iPad landscape style with the smart keyboard), an all new design (squared edges to make it easier to magnetically connect the Apple Pencil to the iPad, all-around shrinked bezels on the front, 5.9mm thickness, etc.), A12X processor w/ a new integrated gpu, Liquid Retina technology in the display for curved edges and increased sharpness, and more. It’s easy to call something overpriced when all of the features that are added to the device is something that you won’t use personally.
Jayant Saini The people who won’t use it for 4k video rendering and other heavy tasks will just get the cheaper iPads. Your point? It’s advertised as a PRO device, not a device to check your daily mail on.
the ipad keyboard is just depressing compared to microsoft's lol
Not to mention the price
@@CHI1KO Just because he's a Apple fan doesn't mean he has to be a biased sheep. The iPad keyboard is trash.
Or the 3rd party apple keyboards
The best u could do is connect a Bluetooth keyboard
The attachable bluetooth keyboard I had for my iPad 2 in 2009 was better than what that iPad keyboard looks like
thank you for making me realize that I don’t need an iPad Pro. was planning to buy one.... not anymore
Don’t buy it, I want to get rid of mine after 2 months from buying it. It is a complete useless tablet. Keyboard is really poor performance type of performance.
Microsoft Surface Pro 6 can run Solidworks, MATLAB and Simulink
IPad I can watch RUclips
Thats what im looking for
Finally someone with a similar use case. OneNote, Inventor, Matlab & Simulink.
Engineering mah dude?
Can you code with it?
I've been suffering from these questions for weeks!!!
Thank you so much for such a fabulous analysis!!!
Microsoft is selling the Surface Pro 6 128GB for $640 right now, the iPad Pro is 800 for the 64GB. Performance should be similar, but Windows is so much more capable than iOS, and it does have to capable tablet apps in its own right. The iPad is hard buy at that price.
@NonyaBusiness!
Depending on which variation you get, you can get a surface for $399. My configuration cost $799 which was originally $1049. But I did see an option for $649 at the best buy I purchased mine.
@NonyaBusiness! It was on the Microsoft Store.
Not when you are a creative. The pencil is a superior device for illustration. Using it with Clip and Affinity. Because of the performance of the pencil v the surface pen, it’s a no brainer.
Pishi A ipad os
This has been very helpful for making a decision on my next purchase. Thank you.
Thank you so much for the nice and clear comparison review!! Really helped me!
Well 3 months ago I got Surface Pro 5 because I want a tablet that can work like a laptop, and I'm really satisfied!!
I’m getting the surface pro 6 ..thanks for the eye opener
Thanks for the video mate. Really appreciate that. U really doing great buddy . Now I know which one to buy bcz of u . Tqsm
I have been a long MAC/iPad user (since first generation) and I agree with you. I have replaced my iPad and MacBook with the surface pro (2017). It does what both do and you don't have to worry about IOS limitations. It's been a year and I can't say I regret it. Very satisfied with the product
As a blind user, I have been using iPads as my only computer for a few years now. ,I find the combination of portability and mobile connectivity essential for what I need a computer for. For me, it's changed my life.
How did you type this if you're blind? Jmmm... And will you get to read this?
@@DanielGrijal No he won't...
Another excellent video!!!
Conclusion: The iPad Pro is an iPhone with a big screen and can't replace your computer and the Surface Pro is a real computer with full Windows OS 10 that looks like an iPad. 😁👍
And above all it is compatible with all Windows applications and any USB devices such as printers and scanner or external hard drive etc, which is far from the case of the Ipad pro. And it's a real complete bone and not a lite version.
Et surtout il est compatible avec touteles applications Windows et n'importe quel périphériques Usb tels que les imprimantes et scanner ou bien disque dur externe etc, ce qui est loin d'être le cas de l'Ipad pro. Et c'est un vrai os complet et non une version allégée.
Plus, you could run full Adobe programs on the Surface. That makes it a lot better
It’s a fully working laptop
Surface isnt a laptop replacement. It's a laptop.
It even has a pc processor.
To me the surface is a laptop and the iPad is a tablet. A device that can fulfil both with good optimisation is near impossible because a simplified touch interface compared to a feature packed desktop one are so vastly different. Both of these products are much better than the phone tablet combo designs coming out though.
Another excellent video! 👊 I love our new iPad Pro, just wish we he support for external hard drives and of course FCX.
Eyy! Thanks a lot Max! Yup - that + proper external monitor support would make it the perfect device!
Curious to see how Apple solves the Thunderbolt 3 issue (as it's an Intel licensed technology which is not supported on non-intel chipsets).
Still u love iPad... lol thats insane
You need to watch some videos here on RUclips on how to add external hard drives to your iPad using wireless technology.
Max Yuryev ;9
does but they are optimised for the ipad
This video was actually helpful.. thank you
Thank you for this review!!
Best reviewer. I already own a laptop so iPad would work for me. Great video.
I think I’m going to get the Microsoft
Good choice.
No the ipad
eliott A I have the Surface Pro 2017 but will be picking up the iPad pro 11 as the 12.9 price is steep to only come with 64GB of storage.
I have the Surface Pro. Never purchased a better laptop. Also a great tablet.
Good choice
Damn Daniel! I asked, you delivered. Thanks bro. Keep up the great videos 🙏🏾❤️☀️📼
... spot-on assessment, AGAIN, Daniel. Thank you!
Addition to the comparison: The Apple pencil has insanely low latency. It's almost as if writing in real life.
Note: Not an apple/MS fanboi. I tried the Surface Stylus with the MS-built apps on the Surface Studio 2 and Surface Pro 6, and the Apple Pencil on the Apple Notes(?) app on iPad Pro 2018. Surface products still lag behind by quite a bit in that regard.
Apple just cut it down even lower to 9ms instead of 20
They are a tiny bit laggier, yes but you can still create great artwork (I am an art student), in my opinion, if you are going to university the Surface Pro 6 is just way better, amazing for lectures and great for chilling, playing all your favorite games. Plus the USB port is a godsend and the extra SD slot.
You should do an updated review since Apple updated the iPad pro’s software; most of those issues were fixed
thank you like so much, this saved me so much money and now i can do anything i could do on a tablet (and more) tysm
Great video! 👍🏻 👍🏻👍🏻 thank you for giving an honest review ... that too from an Apple fanboy! 😎
It's simple, iPad Pro for entertainment and Surface pro for real work. iPad can do some work, but Surface is more capable for real work due to Windows.
How about for note taking??
@@tahmeenanazarwal10 Not sure, got ipad for reading some pdf files, didn't use it for writing.
Tahmeena Nazarwal iPad wins on that one.
@@sneekibreeki4952 @Mileta Thank you
@@tahmeenanazarwal10 Notetaking is better with the Surface Pro 6. For one, you got the whole office suite of apps- and, full-fledged at that. Onenote and etc may not be as optimized, but they also do auto-sync and accept a lot more inputs. For notetaking, I assume you are in a school setting of some sort- Easy switching from laptop to tablet; overall better for the price.
You should redo this but with iPad os vs windows
How’s the writing experience on the Surface? Good for taking notes as a student? 🤔
Also, can you make an updated version of this video? (iPadOS, new Surface etc...)
Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for this video. Even though it's nearly a year old, it's still quite relevant.
The surface pen is no longer based off wacom tech and hasn't been since surface pro 2. Microsoft purchased Ntrig technology and since then the surface 3 and up are based on Ntrig technology, hence the battery.
Is there anything like PaperLike for the Surface Pro? Or does it not need one?
Surface pen tips give it enough resistence
Very good video! Can you also include your view on actual work being done in both. Só office and others, some heavy excel files, maybe a bit on advanced formulas. If possible it would be cool!
I feel relieved, since I decided to watch this AFTER purchasing the surface pro 6 🤦🏽♀️👍🏽
If the iPad was full mac os it be awesome. I needed a new computer for school, and it needed full photoshop, illustrator, etc so I went with the surface pro 6
You could be Johnny Rapid's brother. Nice review, btw.
I have a Surface Pro 4 and I love it. The Surface replaced my heavy notebook back then and it does an excellent job for that purpose. It has an excellent display, very good keyboard and one of the best Windows touchpads. For reading it's nice to detach the keyboard and I enjoy marking text and adding notes with the Surface pen. In comparison, the iPad Pro fails as being marketed as a Surface competitor. The iPad is the best tablet but it could never replace my laptop.
Great information!!
A USB type C port ..and....and nothing 😅😅😂😂😂😂
I use the Mac book pro and it only has USBC and I have not had a problem with it in the last year using it as my only device for college
@@lukehartung8494 How do you do research papers? GSU only accepts WORD docs.
Jenessa Wright yeah my school doesn’t work with pages either but when you export the document you can choose word. Also, I get free Microsoft word as a student but I still choose pages.
Jenessa Wright All apple products support full office 365, most schools let you download it for free.
Research papers with word or pages? Pathetic... (LaTeX snob :P)
It's so funny Apple advertises iPad as laptop replacement when they are holding their iPad down with ios. It would be way better if they make dual boot and let us choose btw ios and mac os when booting it up.
It would be nice if microsoft let us use android store too.
Microsoft is so behind on their store that I doubt they will ever catch up.
@@hryank33 surface has full windows 10, literally the most applications you could install on any OS.
EragoEntertainment thats not the point. Windows 10 is not nearly as good for tablet apps as ios
The surface really is as good as a completely normal laptop but they just beed to improve the tablet part of it
@@hryank33 well, i think some android simulator such as Nox will work
Long Phạm Hải I used Nox before and many apps are available, but if Microsoft was completely on board and cooperate with google, the tablet experience on the surface would be greatly improved.
Great review. Thanks!
Depends on your personal needs. I use the iPad Pro for almost all my computing needs, and do not run into any problems. However, for some I could totally understand that they need more power for their computing needs.
Would you rather have a tablet with computer functions or a computer with tablet functions
@bryce hunter multitasking? The windows have that feature first before ipad did. And a computer which can pass as a tablet is way better than an actual tablet.
Rocking a windows desktop + iPad Pro. Love the combo.
I love your videos! And your hair looks great!
Wow... seems you saw my comment(request) on the last video😍😍 nice stuffs✌
Paperlike is a godsend. Just really, really good. I actually prefer it as a screen protector so that those who don't need it, can use the display in its full glory and the rest of us has the better drawing experience.
Christoph Riess How does it feel when you touch it with your hands compared to having no screen protection though?
Doesn't it wear the pencil tip off quicker?
I would also like to know this please!
Slightly textured. I like the feel. It dampens the colors slightly (as it usually happens with non gloss displays). And I'm still on the first tip (10.5 2017 iPad). So I don't feel wear and tear. I do have to mention that I changed my pressure sensitivity to rather high. So I get maximum pressure with relatively low actual pressure.
Christoph Riess thanks for the info
Hey I saw a video the other day by Jonathan Morrison where he connected the iPad up with a Mac mini and was running it like a computer. Could you do a video on that please? Would really like to see something like this
Jessica Doody why? It’s useless. He used the $800+ as a monitor and input device. It has so little uses and the setup cost $1600 with the lowest spec of equipment.
@@robertp457 cuz an ipad running mac is what people want. Its not the solution to the problems with ios, but seeing an ipad run mac os is interesting.
@(@@Mark-xw5yt) That wouldn't be running MacOS, it would be displaying MacOS.
Bought them both and surprisingly wife and I returned the surface. The iPad Pro does a great job being a tablet first, but also a more limited computer BUT it’s a great as serving as your phone while on it. You can call, text, FaceTime, etc...basically it boiled down to the smooth continuity between iPhone, Mac, & iPad Pro. Zero buyers remorse.
Beautiful comparison liked
iPad Pro is a fun toy, Surface Pro is for getting work done
Um I wwouldn't say fun toy as some college students use it to record notes and work on it... It's also good for artists but ok..
A iPad pro is not a toy
@@dsangel4135 You can do that on surface pro as well.
Maybe not too much of artist part though, but still good till semi-pro level I'd think.
@@kanishk2643 I'll check it out
@@dsangel4135 Lmao, I really hope college students aren't buying iPad Pro's just to take notes because that's about all the college work they'll be able to do on those things.
I’m a huge apple fan because apple ecosystem is so good!!! But this guy almost convinced me that Surface is better than iPad. And i agree!!! But when it comes to being a tablet iPad is great, which he also mentioned in the video.
I truly loved this video and the authenticity. Great work 👍
Wait, did you just say apple products are good?
@@caedanlowry8756 It's the best
Love this comparison!! Completely objective!!!!!
Absolutely excellent review.
Sooooo
You tryna do an update to this or...?🙃🙃🙃
I have a Surface Pro 6 and it’s amazing
I use a surface pro 4 for autoCAD, fusion360, marlin,solidworks, cura, as an engineering student
wow your guide is detail, you earn my sub!
I can't justify getting the newest iPad pro as I just bought the 12.9" last fall. I love it. But I was wondering if there's a Logitech Slim Combo yet for the newest iPad. The one I have on my 2017 iPad pro is excellent, much better than the Apple keyboard. Backlit keys and an extra row of keys.
Not out yet i hope they will bring one out for the newest iPad Pro 12.9 2018 model
Logitech supposedly has keyboard cases for the new iPad Pros coming soon, and I'd be surprised if Zagg and Belkin aren't far behind.
I hope ios 13 will bring some more desktop class features to the ipad.
And bring the ipad closer to a laptop replacement.
You predict the future really well.
It's happening. Not perfect but happening.
Love the surface pro! I have the 2017 model but would love the quad core of the sp6 model.
Great video!
thanks for the review Andrew Garfield!
You should do new comparison in light of Ipad Os and if now ipad pro is better overall?
Great comparison, completely agree. The iPad is great but for productivity the Surface is much better. I've tried using the iPad (not pro) for work but I was having to find workarounds too often (eg being restricted to mobile apps).
Did you know that if you tap the the refresh button for 3 seconds it will give you an option for the desktop site in safari.
I pad is a pad on which you can start cooking ideas. You need surface for actually work on it.
Akshay Gatkal u spy on people or something
not anymore
Thanks, I'm going to get my wife one of these for Christmas. This helps my decision a bit better
Picked up the Surface pro 6 last night. It’s awesome!
Are you still liking your Pro, I can't decide. OMG 😚
I love you mate you make great content
The surface is using a desktop version of Windows right? So it won't be surprising that it's more flexible than iOS.
All windows are desktop. There is no exclusive tablet version or Mobile they got rid of it. Windows 10 has a tablet mode so you get a desktop platform that's touch friendly or is it. Doesn't matter having full desktop software on such a device is still better!
Windows 10 S?
@@lily-vt8ic Windows 10 S mode is only on the Surface Go.
@@cmitchellfly Not to mention that it is an easy upgrade. On an iPad, you're stuck with what you got, rip.
The display of the new iPad pro is really great but the glass is really really thin and actually it doesn't feel so good ..i prefer surface Pro using it for days.. and i don't regret it...
I have a Surface pro I got it 6 months ago and I’m using it right now it’s my First electronic I’m really happy with it . 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
What about Blender? After Effects? Pro Tools? Illustrator? Davinci Resolve?
Bro you forgot the Windows Hello.. and I've been using my Surface Pen for over a year now and I've not changed the battery.
Why when You can have FaceID?
Insentery The Surface Pro 6's Windows Hello has both Face ID and Touch ID
i hate when people do reviews for these pads qith pens and speak about the art aspect of it when i use this function in business writning notes which is what sells me on the surface pro everytime as a contractor vs jogging on diffrent pieces of paper
Great info!
Had SP3, now have SBPB. Agree with what Dan said about the kickstand. MS was talking about kickstand and how it was cool, when they were lounching their first Surface devices. I thought it was gimmick. But now having SurfaceBook I realize how useful that kickstand was. Having a mechanism that can support upright the device and that is build in is a gamechanger.
I already knew which device you were going to pick before I watched the video because I have owned both devices and I also would choose the surface pro over the iPad any day. I guess great minds think alike. The iPad has great hardware but it can never replace a laptop until they fix the software which I don't see them doing anytime soon.
I just bought the Surface Pro yesterday. Loving it :D
what about now?
I bought my surface pro 4 two years ago, and I never have felt better with a purchase. 100% happy with this bought.
How many if you went from "another boring techie video...just skip it! " to "oh twist in the plot, I LIKE IT!!! " on this exact moment 0:27 .
Love my Surface Pro... The best way to describe these two. iPad you buy to play. Surface Pro is for business.
Dustin Adam and spend laptop money for a toy.
Im planning to buy the surface pro as a laptop. is anyone here an artist that has been using surface pro for drawing? because, I will be traveling alot but since im an artist and a video editor, i will need a laptop that works with both. I heard that the surface pro has a jitter problem. is it still going?
victoria chelsea bro I use iPad Pro 2017 in drawing and graphic design and it works so good for me no matter how much time you are using it but surface crush sometimes I have a friends who use surfaces but they crushed
@@iraguhaclement2843 Uhh, what? Crashing? It's 2019. Windows isn't as bad as you think. You've never tried the Surface Pro 6, have you? Don't speak without experience, please.
Ali Rahman I will try it but for sure I can buy surface pro, sometimes they have touch screen cable problems, and as an artist for iPad Pro 12.9 works some good the pen is so amazing, and I don’t need to cool it down as surfaces. Surface pro a computer but not good one if you want to compare surface pro compare it with Wacom cintiqs.
Excellent video!!!,!
Thank you... Wanted a laptop which is also a tab... Your video does a great job..!!!! I just wish there was a bit more about the display comparison...!!!
I already have a laptop so I got the IPad Pro. This is my first apple product I’ve had in a long time and I hope support further develops this device. People are worried about bending it by sitting.. a person with common sense would place it on a table after they’re done. Not a chair.
Apps vs programs. Apps vs programs. Apps vs programs. That's a really hard decision.
(Obviously, programs are the thing you want.)
Thank dude ! For cutting off my confusion 😊😊😊
I enjoyed this video while watching on my iPad Pro 11inch. I have a couple of questions. 1) How is the portability comparison of the two devices? 2) Does Paperlike change the touch experience in the iPad? For example I'm physically typing/gliding text using G Board on my iPad. Will Paperlike hinder the smooth experience of that?
The iPad has that cool new folding technology in it now as well
Lol. Savage
@@Blackxury someone who accidentally left in on a couch in their living room and forgot that it was there and sits their Fatass on it
Parker's Brick Box facts
Imao
@@parkerwilliams617 you don't even have to sit on it to break it. Some of them come bent in the box before you even open it up.
can me work on the ipad pro autokad?
no
you have saved me!!!!! know I know what I need to get thx you very much
Awesome comparison. Cheers