@@comparecars_org why would I keep a car past 50k miles? Anyway what did the motoring journalists all report about their Alfa press cars. That was it. They all had faults. It’s nothing personal just a reality. Take a few deep breaths and chill. As an Engineer I know all cars have faults just Alfa have more than others statistically relative to the volume sold. Before you blow another gasket, I’ve only ever owned one BMW which is my current M3 Comp which has been fine other than being hit from behind by an Alfa. (I suspect his brakes failed 😉)
@@aaronsmith7691 tbf most the issues with press cars where on early 2017 models when the car was first released. The later models have found all these glitches rectified by what was mostly software. They are generally a very reliable motor 👍
@@stephenlongfield8492 I don’t doubt you’re probably right. It doesn’t do them any favours giving members of the press, cars with issues. JLR is no better in this respect. I just enjoyed yanking the chain of somebody so biased that’s all. The G80 is very capable however many M car owners are reluctant to change due to looks, weight and cost. There are plenty of RUclips reviews showing just how capable it is against the Alfa and F80. I think the most compelling regarding the G80’s capability is Autocar’s review on track against the Alfa, a Honda Type R and AMG 45S. An unusual mix.
@Marc Corominas I actually recommended the Alfa to a friend a few days ago after a dealer told him both the M3Comp and Alfa were dreadful cars due to the requirement to have some driving skill when pushing hard. In my opinion both are great it purely depends on what you prefer. It’s about splitting hairs when differentiating between them.
What colour you gone for Joe? I have you down for someone who would maybe go for the Portimao blue with an Orange carbon bucket interior, maybe jet black wheels.
I recently test drive the g80 m3, really wasn’t impressed and couldn’t wait to get back into my Alfa QV. It’s so much better to drive, better steering, much better transmission, sounds better and more supple suspension. It just feels more special, interior quality is slightly better on the bmw but nowhere near as much as car critics bang on about. I’ve done a video showing all the poor plastics in the new m3. The m3 just feels less exotic, no carbon bonnet, fake rear diffuser, no active splitter etc. Styling is subjective but there’s not many folk who’ll tell you it’s as good looking as the sublime Alfa
I've just ordered a G81 M3 Competition XDrive Touring. You almost never notice the fact the car is AWD because it does not understeer, but the traction is truly next level. And I could not agree more about how well the car's tech looks after you because at low speed because it is so well mannered. In my opinion the M3 Comp really is a brilliant brilliant car.
I agree with you, the M3 is a lot more practical to own. Excellent video mate. We enjoyed part 1 and part 2. Excellent, your editing just keeps on getting better and better, one thing taking film, totally another editing it all together. Love how your channel continues to grow and grow. Take care.
I currently own a BMW 3-series and an Alfa Romeo Giulia.....I prefer my Alfa Romeo. While the M3 is a fine car, the new hideous grill and the very high price, make the Quadrifoglio a better buy.
This car reminds me of my new Samsung TV - great tech, performance and a quality picture, but I don't give it a second look after I turn it off, nor lay awake dreaming about turning it on again.
I'm a huge coupé fan but I think the design of the M3 has a lot more balls and is a lot less 'jelly'. Argument of practicality too. Could sell it to the misses if it was half the price... Cheers
I have seen enough reviews of these M3's /M4's to suggest the performance is very good. The interior is definitely a step up . But I can't get my head around the exterior design. If your paying that money you need to be able to look back at the car and feel good.
Thank you finally someone that has some sense, did you see all the reviews where euro reviewers keep saying the Giulia is better lol, hell no m3 is king for now
Great review as always Ped. To sum up my thoughts on the M3: Interior: beautiful Engine: sounds great Side view: lovely Rear view: very pretty Front view: Oh dear, oh dear.... it was all going so well! :-)
I love that green. Still hate the grill. My former boss has the last gen M4, and I absolutely cannot fit in the front seats due to lack of headroom. I didn't even think of trying to crawl into the rear seats.I would hope that the new M3 is an improvement on that.
Sorry Pete. I would still buy the Alfa Qv. BMW have taken 5 years to come up with an answer to it and in lots of ways they have copied it. But it is not as nice looking, and most people agree that the Alfa is still the better road car. It is more supple on the road and still more rewarding to drive with a better steering and a lighter and more agile feeling. This gives a better feeling of involvement that does not jar your teeth out over the bumps. I am sure the BMW would be the better track car but as most people drive on the road then what’s the point in that. The Alfa has everything you will need for road and with the same set of Michelin tyres it would be good in any weather. Most importantly you could save yourself nearly £20k on a new one or get a really good deal on a used one. Reliability would not bother me either as according to warranty company’s Alfa is now better than BMW. You seem to love and want every car you drive but seem to forget about your last favourite very easily!. I think you need to do a back to back comparison with the 2021QV on the road.
Agreed. All Alfa have to do, in the UK at least, is sort out the dealers. I've changed from Alfa to BMW because of the way I got treated by Alfa service departments. If only the dealers were as good as their cars
I agree with much of this. The M3 and M4 deal with the power far better. The diff is highly impressive and having driven all 3 with the same tyres and conditions would I think out perform to Alfa. I agree the Alfa steering has a better feel. BMW suspension is not jarring in Comfort. The Alfa’s price point is very appealing though 👍 Not every car is my favourite. I try very hard to be objective. Have you driven either of these cars ?
Price is about right if you think about it. Back in 2002 a e46 m3 was about £50k, chuck in a bit of inflation that’s about £75k today. But with dealer and manufacturers contributions the price will be a bit easier to swallow.
@@kamseihra his little statement had nothing to do with pricing and everything to do with he’s butt hurt over the grille. That and he can’t afford this stuff anyway.
Hello my friend, I have to say from the off, loving that you are giving the colour names of the cars now, really is useful going forward pal 👍👍👍👍👍. Those wheels are lush, however, with awesome rims, comes ‘bloody hard’ to reach angles etc to keep them real clean. Beautiful interior.
I think the latest versions of the QF let you have the noise in dynamic mode. Regardless, it’s a cheapish mod to get it on the older versions and you can always change the tyres. I’ve not driven the new M3/M4 but our current Giulia Veloce Ti is a much more engaging car to drive than my old M4. Good review and I wouldn’t say no to one, it’s just I’d be more likely to say yes to the QF.
@@PetrolPed I wonder what the QF would be like with more UK appropriate rubber? It’s a shame they won’t make an AWD version. The Stelvio QF we had for a few weeks was fantastic!
I’ve generally always preferred the coupe versions of most BMW’s but on these latest M models the M3 looks more dramatic and at my age I appreciate the extra comfort in suspension. Interestingly I seem to prefer the M440 to the M4 in terms of its looks 🤔
Hi Pete Love ya video mate. Iv alway fancied the M4 but after seeing this I think the M3 take it Great videography as well mate roll on Sunday looking forward to that one 👍👍👍👍👍
Interesting review, To bad you missed the fact ( people commented before to tell you ...) That the frontwheel skipping thing is because of the tires , fixed fitting michelins and the 2020 version has the option to open the exhaust in dynamic mode ...
@@PetrolPed I can't wait... Iomg carbon pack (but no buckets as it's a daily car and family) lights full leather (all black) 826 bicolour. Mperf sill guards breathers mats
If someone told me 10 years ago that an M3 would start at £70k I’d have fallen off my chair 😂 I think you’d have to be a little crazy to spend 8k on brakes but each to their own. Great video!
Well I’m not surprised with you liking the M3 more, it’s really the complete package (jealous Joe A)!! The colour spec is epic and right up my alley too mate👍🏻. BMW UK 🇬🇧 huge thanks and man they know how to spec wheels on their cars 👊🏻👏🏻🍻🇨🇦
I love that interior way more than Kamala Orange (as another RUclipsr called it haha). I think that color would quickly cause regret, while this color combo is just awesome and should age extremely well.
Great video as always Peter and what a car. Thankfully here in the UK we have to put a number plate on the front which splits up that bloody hideous front grille!!!!!
I like the last shot of the car going up the road (scenery, sound) 👍👌. BMW's done a good job on the interior, but I think I'd prefer darker materials, I'd be afraid to get the lighter trim dirty.
I agree, it has to be the M3 over the M4. I'm never keen on large, 2/3 door cars. The M3 looks more mature and better proportioned and, of course, it has to be in that exact colour too.
BMW has way better infotainment system, but as a friend of mine said "the Giulia IS the infotaiment". Moreover the fact that BMW puts as optional the carbon fiber in the front while in the Alfa it has been always on board is a bit put off. When I put my Giulia Quadrifoglio in race mode is like driving a kart, can almost feel you are steering directly the wheels with your hands, it's a unique sensation!
The interior looked superb but, as a passenger in the back with carbon fibre seat backs and that leg room that's going to be mighty uncomfortable. Apart from that and the price, epic car. Loved the review ped.
I hated that big grille, like they sampled Audis ugly way... But somehow it grows on me?! I read somewhere that someone said its a hommage to older bimmers, so i started to look at it from that perspective instead... Greatings from Sthlm Sweden.
How is the comfort suspension on this car vs the last M3? The last one was too stiff, and that's why I chose the amazing Alfa which sucks up potholes like a Mercedes.
@@PetrolPed I just drove one yesterday and it's very stiff on potholes and rough road compared to the Giulia. Too bad. I don't know why they don't realize most customers don't live on a track. Great review though. You do a good job.
I recently test drove the g80 m3, really wasn’t impressed and couldn’t wait to get back into my Alfa QV. It’s so much better to drive, better steering, much better transmission, sounds better and more supple suspension. It just feels more special, interior quality is slightly better on the bmw but nowhere near as much as car critics bang on about. I’ve done a video showing all the poor plastics in the new m3. The m3 just feels less exotic, no carbon bonnet, fake rear diffuser, no active splitter etc. The gearbox felt lethargic compared to the Alfa and the fake sound pumped into the cabin was so loud and awful it actually drowned out the exhaust even in loud mode. Obviously the tech in the bmw was far superior, but I don’t buy a car like this for that and I get in with the Alfa tech ok as it’s got all I need. The suspension felt fussy and overly firm for firms sake...It found bumps that my Alfa hides. Styling is subjective but there’s not many folk who’ll tell you it’s as good looking as the sublime Alfa. Overall the Alfa is the better experience as a road car, it also feels special and more exotic. Buy the Alfa, fit PS4S and the difference is phenomenal. The torque vectoring rear diff with decent tyres really works. Then have Celtic tuning code the exhaust to be fully loud in Dynamic and you are done. I actually had my engine and gearbox mapped too for 605bhp and even faster shifts, the chassis just loves the extra power and feels like it should have come from the factory like this. Both great cars ultimately and will certainly will entertain you. 👍
Nah, Alfa is a last generation product. Great steering feel, good exhaust sound, nice aluminum shift paddles ... dated interior and infotainment, worse handling, not as composed chassis. Alfa beats the old F80 M3, not the new G80. G80 corners nearly like a supercar. It’s incredible.
@@Usman-zp6ig I agree as I test drove one recently and it’s fantastic, much better than the rwd variant. It’s still slower than my mapped QV 100-200kmh but no doubt mapped would be similar performance there. They are doing 2.5 0-60mph with a remap and downpipes 😲 impressive that S58 engine
Hi Pete, lucky you to drive both cars. Like you I think the M3 was a much sportier looking car and would be my choice. Just need to find £85k to buy one!
Hi Ped, I agree the M3 is more balanced than the M4 and as a result looks far better - also cheaper and more practical than the M4. Don't like the disappearing Hoffmeister kink on the M4 but I do believe that you have been converted to a BMW - certainly a far better drive than any Tesla. It also seems a trend now not to include under bonnet insulation. BTW, the way to close a BMW bonnet is to drop it from a height of about 18" not to press down on the outside.
Definitely not my favorite looking m3 but it still is very nice 👍 if I had to chose I’d pick the m3. My favorite m3 is the v8 one it’s a dream of mine to own one of the bmw m3 with the v8. As always Sir Pete great little review series and great video!
I definitely love the m3 in that specific colour, but I doubt I could get my misses to love those seats lol, she complains about my hyundai N seats lol.
@@PetrolPed I literally had to buy her a cushion because we drive to Wales every so often, buy unless I win the lottery then this m3 is way out of my budget unless prices are good used when I change 🤣🤣 might have to settle on the m340i touring.
M3 four wheel drive figures have just been announced: 0-62 in 3.5 seconds which means real life figures of at least 3.3 seconds and the price increases by only £2000. The four wheel drive has to be a no brainer if you're in the U.K
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Still an Alfa lover for life. I have been staring at my car in parking lots cuz the looks from the outside is beautiful
@@comparecars_org it’s a difficult comparison as the Alfa is continuously undergoing warranty rectification sadly.
@@comparecars_org why would I keep a car past 50k miles? Anyway what did the motoring journalists all report about their Alfa press cars. That was it. They all had faults. It’s nothing personal just a reality. Take a few deep breaths and chill. As an Engineer I know all cars have faults just Alfa have more than others statistically relative to the volume sold. Before you blow another gasket, I’ve only ever owned one BMW which is my current M3 Comp which has been fine other than being hit from behind by an Alfa. (I suspect his brakes failed 😉)
@@aaronsmith7691 tbf most the issues with press cars where on early 2017 models when the car was first released.
The later models have found all these glitches rectified by what was mostly software.
They are generally a very reliable motor 👍
@@stephenlongfield8492 I don’t doubt you’re probably right. It doesn’t do them any favours giving members of the press, cars with issues. JLR is no better in this respect. I just enjoyed yanking the chain of somebody so biased that’s all. The G80 is very capable however many M car owners are reluctant to change due to looks, weight and cost. There are plenty of RUclips reviews showing just how capable it is against the Alfa and F80. I think the most compelling regarding the G80’s capability is Autocar’s review on track against the Alfa, a Honda Type R and AMG 45S. An unusual mix.
@Marc Corominas I actually recommended the Alfa to a friend a few days ago after a dealer told him both the M3Comp and Alfa were dreadful cars due to the requirement to have some driving skill when pushing hard. In my opinion both are great it purely depends on what you prefer. It’s about splitting hairs when differentiating between them.
Brilliant video mate, counting down the days 🙏
Cheers Bud. Well Jel 😂
What colour you gone for Joe? I have you down for someone who would maybe go for the Portimao blue with an Orange carbon bucket interior, maybe jet black wheels.
I recently test drive the g80 m3, really wasn’t impressed and couldn’t wait to get back into my Alfa QV.
It’s so much better to drive, better steering, much better transmission, sounds better and more supple suspension.
It just feels more special, interior quality is slightly better on the bmw but nowhere near as much as car critics bang on about. I’ve done a video showing all the poor plastics in the new m3.
The m3 just feels less exotic, no carbon bonnet, fake rear diffuser, no active splitter etc.
Styling is subjective but there’s not many folk who’ll tell you it’s as good looking as the sublime Alfa
@@stephenlongfield8492 just a good job you arent biased or anything lol
I've just ordered a G81 M3 Competition XDrive Touring. You almost never notice the fact the car is AWD because it does not understeer, but the traction is truly next level. And I could not agree more about how well the car's tech looks after you because at low speed because it is so well mannered. In my opinion the M3 Comp really is a brilliant brilliant car.
I agree with you, the M3 is a lot more practical to own. Excellent video mate. We enjoyed part 1 and part 2. Excellent, your editing just keeps on getting better and better, one thing taking film, totally another editing it all together. Love how your channel continues to grow and grow. Take care.
BMW brought out the E30 M3 in response to Mercedes 190 2.3-16 as the Cosworth came out 3 year's earlier.
I was in a 2014 M5 in Estoril Blue & I loved it very much.
I currently own a BMW 3-series and an Alfa Romeo Giulia.....I prefer my Alfa Romeo. While the M3 is a fine car, the new hideous grill and the very high price, make the Quadrifoglio a better buy.
Evening all, looking forward to another cracking watch Pete 👍
Thanks Mark 👍
Completely agree with your views on the M3 vs M4 styling. M3 every time for me.
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This car reminds me of my new Samsung TV - great tech, performance and a quality picture, but I don't give it a second look after I turn it off, nor lay awake dreaming about turning it on again.
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Green seems to be the IN colour at the moment Pete.
Quality review, happy to have found this channel
That’s great to hear. Welcome to the channel 👍
In that colour, and spec, it looks absolutely stunning. Great video 😀
Cheers 👍
Much nicer shape than the M4 Pete. Also, the colour is magic.
Yep 👍
I'm a huge coupé fan but I think the design of the M3 has a lot more balls and is a lot less 'jelly'. Argument of practicality too. Could sell it to the misses if it was half the price... Cheers
Yeah. I have that problem too 😂
Great video..am with you on preferred choice...the M3 for me to for looks and practicality..👌🏽
I have seen enough reviews of these M3's /M4's to suggest the performance is very good. The interior is definitely a step up . But I can't get my head around the exterior design. If your paying that money you need to be able to look back at the car and feel good.
I hated the front grill when I first saw it but it's really grown on me since, I love the look of the car now.
Thank you finally someone that has some sense, did you see all the reviews where euro reviewers keep saying the Giulia is better lol, hell no m3 is king for now
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. The M3 Is the one ☝️ l would choose as there are 4 doors
I love the grill, i love its performance, it probably the last generation pure petrol m3.
Great review as always Ped. To sum up my thoughts on the M3:
Interior: beautiful
Engine: sounds great
Side view: lovely
Rear view: very pretty
Front view: Oh dear, oh dear.... it was all going so well! :-)
Great review. Thanks 🙏
Nice review! Did you ever drive or review the M3 Comp xDrive? Because if you thought the regular comp was good...... :)
Not driven the M3 XDrive but have reviewed the M4 Cab XDrive 👍
Pheasant for tea 😳Great review 👍🧽🏁
Nearly 😂
Great video as usual bod this car is growing on me but it's bloody expensive and I do like the nose it only looks good in a darker colour
Very good review, thoroughly enjoyed it !! Owned 2 M3's last one a CSL have to say the 4 door is the one to get now looks mega !!
I hear you are pretty handy in a Formula 1 car too 😜👍
I love that green. Still hate the grill. My former boss has the last gen M4, and I absolutely cannot fit in the front seats due to lack of headroom. I didn't even think of trying to crawl into the rear seats.I would hope that the new M3 is an improvement on that.
Stunning looking car in that colour and another good honest review. 👌🏻
Cheers 👍
Why am I not surprised!! Beautiful car and fantastic video... I'd have one tomorrow if I had the money... Cheers
Thanks Dan. So would I 👍
Sorry Pete. I would still buy the Alfa Qv. BMW have taken 5 years to come up with an answer to it and in lots of ways they have copied it. But it is not as nice looking, and most people agree that the Alfa is still the better road car. It is more supple on the road and still more rewarding to drive with a better steering and a lighter and more agile feeling. This gives a better feeling of involvement that does not jar your teeth out over the bumps. I am sure the BMW would be the better track car but as most people drive on the road then what’s the point in that. The Alfa has everything you will need for road and with the same set of Michelin tyres it would be good in any weather. Most importantly you could save yourself nearly £20k on a new one or get a really good deal on a used one. Reliability would not bother me either as according to warranty company’s Alfa is now better than BMW. You seem to love and want every car you drive but seem to forget about your last favourite very easily!. I think you need to do a back to back comparison with the 2021QV on the road.
Agreed. All Alfa have to do, in the UK at least, is sort out the dealers. I've changed from Alfa to BMW because of the way I got treated by Alfa service departments. If only the dealers were as good as their cars
I agree with much of this. The M3 and M4 deal with the power far better. The diff is highly impressive and having driven all 3 with the same tyres and conditions would I think out perform to Alfa.
I agree the Alfa steering has a better feel. BMW suspension is not jarring in Comfort. The Alfa’s price point is very appealing though 👍
Not every car is my favourite. I try very hard to be objective. Have you driven either of these cars ?
Agree. M3C for me from what I have seen. More aggressive (and practical!).
Epic review of an epic car Ped. Awesome….
Thanks Paul 🙏🏻
The price is ridiculous for one of these. I'll take the Alfa every time
Price is about right if you think about it.
Back in 2002 a e46 m3 was about £50k, chuck in a bit of inflation that’s about £75k today. But with dealer and manufacturers contributions the price will be a bit easier to swallow.
@@kamseihra his little statement had nothing to do with pricing and everything to do with he’s butt hurt over the grille. That and he can’t afford this stuff anyway.
@@BrettL250 😂😂😂😂
Alfa who ??? ….. sales numbers??
Hello my friend, I have to say from the off, loving that you are giving the colour names of the cars now, really is useful going forward pal 👍👍👍👍👍. Those wheels are lush, however, with awesome rims, comes ‘bloody hard’ to reach angles etc to keep them real clean. Beautiful interior.
I’d hate to clean them 😂
Fantastic video as always PP. Amazing car, way out of my price range unfortunately. Love that colour!
Out of mine too 👍
I think the latest versions of the QF let you have the noise in dynamic mode. Regardless, it’s a cheapish mod to get it on the older versions and you can always change the tyres. I’ve not driven the new M3/M4 but our current Giulia Veloce Ti is a much more engaging car to drive than my old M4. Good review and I wouldn’t say no to one, it’s just I’d be more likely to say yes to the QF.
I still love the QV but these put the power to the tarmac far more competently. QV steering is still the best in the game far me 👍
@@PetrolPed I wonder what the QF would be like with more UK appropriate rubber? It’s a shame they won’t make an AWD version. The Stelvio QF we had for a few weeks was fantastic!
Amazing review 🤘🏻💯……respect 🫡
Thanks 🙏🏻
Evening all. I went round the IOM TT mountain course in an M3 and it was indeed epic. Nice colour Isle of man green 😍
Oh wow. Bet that was awesome 👏
What made you think of filming pup/pooch in drivers mirror? Such an excellent ‘TV director’ touch
I was filming and just spotted it. I’ve been working in TV now for early 2 years and these things run off on you. Glad someone noticed 👍
Oh yes I missed it (lesson to self don’t multi task) watched it back to see , great shot !
I really didn’t like that green originally. It reminded me of early 90’s bmw’s but the darker shades when sat on your drive.. yum
I’ve generally always preferred the coupe versions of most BMW’s but on these latest M models the M3 looks more dramatic and at my age I appreciate the extra comfort in suspension. Interestingly I seem to prefer the M440 to the M4 in terms of its looks 🤔
Nice video and congrats to Joe for his future car 😊😊❤👍
Indeed 👍
Beautiful car lovely colour and a great review!
Thanks Seve 👍
Hi Pete
Love ya video mate. Iv alway fancied the M4 but after seeing this I think the M3 take it Great videography as well mate roll on Sunday looking forward to that one 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Carl 👍
Great video sir... love the Isle of Man green colour.... but £86k ..ouch!
Thanks 👍
Interesting review,
To bad you missed the fact ( people commented before to tell you ...)
That the frontwheel skipping thing is because of the tires , fixed fitting michelins and the 2020 version has the option to open the exhaust in dynamic mode ...
It’s actually due to the suspension geometry but isn’t helped by the tyres 😜
@@PetrolPed
For me it helps a lot , no issues anymore , little less grip in sunny conditions but other tires are better in all other situations
Great video (agree the colour is fab) and we loved the M4 video too. Just need to win the lottery so Jason can decide which one he’d like 😊
Great seeing you guys yesterday 👍
@@PetrolPed You too was lovely to meet Mrs P & see the pups too 😊
18th May for mine in Iomg too. Great video!
You must be buzzing 👍
@@PetrolPed I can't wait... Iomg carbon pack (but no buckets as it's a daily car and family) lights full leather (all black) 826 bicolour. Mperf sill guards breathers mats
If you want the space M3 seems to be the best choice and you save a few quid great review as usual mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Great review Ped. One of these, as a wagon, job done. All the car you'll ever need.
That would be awesome and probably never make it to the states if they did it lol
OMG yes. The wagon is going to be amazing 👍
That will be the alpine. There is one out already , if you have the cash of course. Well in the UK.
@@MrSunnyBhoy Alpina, not Alpine. Specifically the B3: www.alpina-automobiles.co.uk/en/models/b3/highlights/
If someone told me 10 years ago that an M3 would start at £70k I’d have fallen off my chair 😂 I think you’d have to be a little crazy to spend 8k on brakes but each to their own. Great video!
All cars are so expensive these days. I remember when the RS6 was £60k and now they are best part of £100k 🤷♂️
@@PetrolPed To much money even a half decent family car is at least 30k PCP is to blame
Well I’m not surprised with you liking the M3 more, it’s really the complete package (jealous Joe A)!! The colour spec is epic and right up my alley too mate👍🏻. BMW UK 🇬🇧 huge thanks and man they know how to spec wheels on their cars 👊🏻👏🏻🍻🇨🇦
Cheers Mate 👍
I love that interior way more than Kamala Orange (as another RUclipsr called it haha). I think that color would quickly cause regret, while this color combo is just awesome and should age extremely well.
It will not age well , my buddy has it and he just can’t keep it clean 2022 m4, he puts white towels on seat to keep them clean 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, but a bit too heavy on the adverts, I think there were five.
Sorry Dude. I don’t place the ads. That is done by Google. Gotta earn a living somehow 😜👍
Great video as always Peter and what a car. Thankfully here in the UK we have to put a number plate on the front which splits up that bloody hideous front grille!!!!!
It will grow on you 😜😂😂
@@PetrolPed I dont think it will. I have never liked this style of huge front high and narrow grille. Not going to happen any time soon.
M3 > M4 for me too, and who doesn’t love a green car? 😁
Another cracking video Peter 👌
Cheers Bud. Your Touring is lovely by the way 👌
great video review of a great car.......i like the M3 also more that the coup. Just the way it looks
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The M3 is just that bit more practical although I’d say the M4 takes it on looks! Great video.
Agreed
Thanks Darren 👍
Looks are subjective. Personally I really don't like the current 4 series, doesn't gel for me at all
Great review Pete (for size in the back seat comparison - how tall are you?).
6’3” 👍
I love mine and the orange interior :)
Nice 👍
HAHAHA I have said before you are too tall!! I am 5'4" and pretty sure I would be fine in the front and back!!! Great review Pete!
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I like the last shot of the car going up the road (scenery, sound) 👍👌. BMW's done a good job on the interior, but I think I'd prefer darker materials, I'd be afraid to get the lighter trim dirty.
I was pleased with that one 👍
Nice review. How does comfort mode compare to the M340i?
It’s a while since I drove the M340. Not too different I think 🤔
I agree, it has to be the M3 over the M4. I'm never keen on large, 2/3 door cars. The M3 looks more mature and better proportioned and, of course, it has to be in that exact colour too.
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Cracking car Pete, just need to find £80000 from behind the sofa.
Yep. Me too 😜
BMW has way better infotainment system, but as a friend of mine said "the Giulia IS the infotaiment". Moreover the fact that BMW puts as optional the carbon fiber in the front while in the Alfa it has been always on board is a bit put off. When I put my Giulia Quadrifoglio in race mode is like driving a kart, can almost feel you are steering directly the wheels with your hands, it's a unique sensation!
that green color is copied from Alfa btw, like some other design cues in this car
The interior looked superb but, as a passenger in the back with carbon fibre seat backs and that leg room that's going to be mighty uncomfortable. Apart from that and the price, epic car. Loved the review ped.
You’d have to take the kids shoes off 😂
@@PetrolPed but my kid is 6"2! 🤣🤣
Great vid Ped as usual! Judy one niggle, MMI is Audi speak! 😬
Man Machine Interface is a general industry term 🤷♂️😜😂
Brilliant response 🤣🤣🤣
I hated that big grille, like they sampled Audis ugly way... But somehow it grows on me?! I read somewhere that someone said its a hommage to older bimmers, so i started to look at it from that perspective instead... Greatings from Sthlm Sweden.
Hi Sweden 🙋♂️ Yep, if you look back at early BMWs they had big grills like this 👍
How is the comfort suspension on this car vs the last M3? The last one was too stiff, and that's why I chose the amazing Alfa which sucks up potholes like a Mercedes.
I've not driven the previous gen M3 so can't comment, however comfort mode does ride well over a bumpy B Road.
@@PetrolPed I just drove one yesterday and it's very stiff on potholes and rough road compared to the Giulia. Too bad. I don't know why they don't realize most customers don't live on a track. Great review though. You do a good job.
There now a big difference in price between the QV and M3 Competition.
My buddy just traded his Giulia QV for m3 comp. Best decision ever made 🤷🏻♂️
I recently test drove the g80 m3, really wasn’t impressed and couldn’t wait to get back into my Alfa QV.
It’s so much better to drive, better steering, much better transmission, sounds better and more supple suspension.
It just feels more special, interior quality is slightly better on the bmw but nowhere near as much as car critics bang on about. I’ve done a video showing all the poor plastics in the new m3.
The m3 just feels less exotic, no carbon bonnet, fake rear diffuser, no active splitter etc.
The gearbox felt lethargic compared to the Alfa and the fake sound pumped into the cabin was so loud and awful it actually drowned out the exhaust even in loud mode.
Obviously the tech in the bmw was far superior, but I don’t buy a car like this for that and I get in with the Alfa tech ok as it’s got all I need.
The suspension felt fussy and overly firm for firms sake...It found bumps that my Alfa hides.
Styling is subjective but there’s not many folk who’ll tell you it’s as good looking as the sublime Alfa.
Overall the Alfa is the better experience as a road car, it also feels special and more exotic.
Buy the Alfa, fit PS4S and the difference is phenomenal.
The torque vectoring rear diff with decent tyres really works.
Then have Celtic tuning code the exhaust to be fully loud in Dynamic and you are done.
I actually had my engine and gearbox mapped too for 605bhp and even faster shifts, the chassis just loves the extra power and feels like it should have come from the factory like this.
Both great cars ultimately and will certainly will entertain you. 👍
Well said! Spot on! ☘️👍🏻
Nah, Alfa is a last generation product. Great steering feel, good exhaust sound, nice aluminum shift paddles ... dated interior and infotainment, worse handling, not as composed chassis. Alfa beats the old F80 M3, not the new G80. G80 corners nearly like a supercar. It’s incredible.
Xdrive changes all that. M3/m4 xdrive would smoke the alfa in everyday compartments
@@Usman-zp6ig I agree as I test drove one recently and it’s fantastic, much better than the rwd variant.
It’s still slower than my mapped QV 100-200kmh but no doubt mapped would be similar performance there.
They are doing 2.5 0-60mph with a remap and downpipes 😲 impressive that S58 engine
11:44, 'Pheasants are so stupid'! Petrol Ped 16th April 2021. 😁
Hi Pete, lucky you to drive both cars. Like you I think the M3 was a much sportier looking car and would be my choice. Just need to find £85k to buy one!
Me too 😂
I’m excited for the M3 Touring
Me too 👌
Hi Ped, I agree the M3 is more balanced than the M4 and as a result looks far better - also cheaper and more practical than the M4. Don't like the disappearing Hoffmeister kink on the M4 but I do believe that you have been converted to a BMW - certainly a far better drive than any Tesla. It also seems a trend now not to include under bonnet insulation. BTW, the way to close a BMW bonnet is to drop it from a height of about 18" not to press down on the outside.
Terrific video
Thanks 🙏🏻
Talking about the differences between the sedan (saloon) and the coupé made me wonder, are there any performance motor homes?
Nice verdict mate i also prefer m3 over m4 hopefully soon I will Get one in this color or one of bmw frozen color
Ooo yes 👍
Great colour Pete, both interesting videos
Thanks Peter 👍
Definitely not my favorite looking m3 but it still is very nice 👍 if I had to chose I’d pick the m3. My favorite m3 is the v8 one it’s a dream of mine to own one of the bmw m3 with the v8. As always Sir Pete great little review series and great video!
Thanks bud 👍
Speaking of BMW, I see the next gen Vogue will be using the all new V8 Beemer Petrol unit. Could be interesting.
Hadn’t seen that 😳
Hi Peds 👌
Hi 🙋♂️
Mr Ped: April 2021 "you don't need Xdrive!".
Me: December 2024 "Aaarrrgggghhh!" As I spin into infinity in a second hand M3🤣🤣.
Honestly you won’t 👍
Thanks for another great video Ped.
I agree.
But, the M2CS is better than them all :-))
Evening all. Definitely prefer the look of the M3 over the M4.
Not only has Joe A got one coming, Shmee150 has gone for the same spec too! They’re going to be common as ****! Sorry guys!
Are the 510 hp true??? Dyno test, please
It would also be an M3 for me just got to wonder how I could ever afford one now !
That is the big problem 😂
Nice
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What was the deference in engines between them?
These isn’t 👍
I definitely love the m3 in that specific colour, but I doubt I could get my misses to love those seats lol, she complains about my hyundai N seats lol.
Yep...she won’t dig them at all 😂
@@PetrolPed I literally had to buy her a cushion because we drive to Wales every so often, buy unless I win the lottery then this m3 is way out of my budget unless prices are good used when I change 🤣🤣 might have to settle on the m340i touring.
M3 four wheel drive figures have just been announced: 0-62 in 3.5 seconds which means real life figures of at least 3.3 seconds and the price increases by only £2000. The four wheel drive has to be a no brainer if you're in the U.K
What about the extra weight ? Remember it's not all about straight line performance ;-)
@@PetrolPed Believe the extra weight is only an extra 50kg; non issue.
A proper mean machine
Yep 👍
Great video! Surely you'd have steel brakes and you could pay the best valeter lots of times with the saving. The dust wouldn't be your problem.
Good point 👍
First! Evening all! Hope everyone has a nice weekend. 👍🏻
Hi Francois have a great weekend!
@@coltoncleveringa8004 Thank you so much, you too! 😌
Boom 💥
@@PetrolPed Yes! Have a great weekend Peter!
Do you ever comment on the content of the videos Pete goes to great lengths to make, or is it all about being first?
3:37 this hobbit can be dangerous.
I love the colour of that car and the carbon but not the price and the lack of theatre with the noise its not for me.
After market exhaust would be the first thing I changed 👍
M3 for me, every time.