Why Chrollo Lucilfer is One of the Best Antagonists EVER

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @Kuro4
    @Kuro4  2 года назад +334

    Hey everyone, thank you SO much for the love this video's gotten recently! I've been trying to upload more analysis, but some copyright issues have prevented me from doing so until today. That being said, please check out my channel for a brand new video about Hisoka and Gon's fight during the Heavens Arena arc - it's the newest video so should be at the top of the page :)

    • @gomi4306
      @gomi4306 2 года назад +4

      This video was really good

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      @succumbtosorrow 2 года назад +2

      How dare you disrespect bleach but good vid I subbed

    • @aceno485
      @aceno485 2 года назад +2

      p

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    • @SuperGhostrider3
      @SuperGhostrider3 Месяц назад

      Have you created an updated version with the new chapters of the Phantom troupe childhood?

  • @ZANKSENGUMI
    @ZANKSENGUMI 2 года назад +1307

    Chrollo is the epitome of what genuine understanding of nen looks like. He’s also a philanthropist which cannot be overlooked. People help who they desire. Gon asking chrollo about his reasons sheds light on this part of his personality.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +91

      Yeah I think he’s one of the smartest Nen users around - wish he had more fight scenes

    • @e6em
      @e6em 2 года назад +8

      Philanthropist ? Chrollo?? He’s pure evil. Could u please explain your point

    • @ZANKSENGUMI
      @ZANKSENGUMI 2 года назад +100

      @@e6em Simply put, Chrollo is a character that Togashi created purely to showcase the expertise of nen. His motives are clouded in mystery and they don’t seem to follow any real logic. Even though he’s incredibly intelligent, plenty of what Chrollo does, (or at least the way it’s portrayed) is arbitrary to some degree. You can’t project your perception of evil on to someone else because you don’t understand what led them to become who they are. Their circumstances I mean. Meteor City is depicted as a place that is desolate and run down. In the HxH realm everyone has a clear role to play but it’s obvious that when it’s comes to Chrollo, Togashi is fond of using him to display the absurdities of the nen power system. He enjoys the freedom that comes with a character who possesses traits like Chrollo’s. It’s less about what he’s done, more about what he’s capable of in the story. Chrollo once said “Making the ability yours while exploring the darkness within the soul of the original owner. That’s the true benefit of Skill Hunter” which is really just some insight into how Togashi thinks as a person. It’s interesting

    • @andreotchere6456
      @andreotchere6456 2 года назад +11

      @@ZANKSENGUMI you're not wrong in saying you can't call what you don't understand evil but there are moral codes that determine who you are if you break them. Does evil need reason to be justified?

    • @ZANKSENGUMI
      @ZANKSENGUMI 2 года назад +23

      @@andreotchere6456 This is why circumstances are important. Meteor City is basically its own world. You think the morals of others matter to them when the humans there were basically discarded? You don’t need to justify evil, nor do you need to justify good. Your experiences will shape you. That’s about all that matters in my opinion.

  • @jaycroix5149
    @jaycroix5149 2 года назад +2103

    Because he is so unptedictable like Hisoka. And the thing that makes him more menacing than Hisoka is his lack of emotion. Hisoka on the other hand just wants to fight someone strong but Lucilfers true goal is still unknown.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +153

      Agreed - that unpredictable factor makes them both so interesting. Really wanna make a video exclusively about Hisoka in the future!

    • @FM-dm8xj
      @FM-dm8xj 2 года назад +49

      lucifer has emotion for his crew

    • @jaycroix5149
      @jaycroix5149 2 года назад +81

      @@FM-dm8xj It doesnt mean that he has no emotion, "Lack" means not having enough. He has emotions for his crew sure but their code as spiders separates those emotions like a professional. He cares for them deeply but to avoid showing weakness he hides those emotions.

    • @FM-dm8xj
      @FM-dm8xj 2 года назад +27

      @@jaycroix5149 he doesnt hide it. his the head of the crew, he leads them and everyone respects him.

    • @JeromeProductions
      @JeromeProductions 2 года назад +2

      yep

  • @mugi2617
    @mugi2617 2 года назад +697

    Here is my complete analysis of Chrollo Lucilfer as a character:
    I see Chrollo as the absence of character, and by "the absence of character" here I mean the lack of personality. When asked about his motivations he doesn't really know what to respond. He is always stoic. It seems to me that Chrollo is a person without much desire, motivation and emotions. He doesn't really seem alive most of the time (in contrast to the troupe members, who are very vehement). Chrollo's greatest (maybe only) wish seems to be what he is not, a person with a strong personality, with a fascinating story. He tried to achieve this goal through many ways.
    He created a group of people with very strong personalities to counteract his own absence of personality. He is said to only steal objects that have a certain history and/or significance, "stealing their history" (He literally stole other people's eyes, metaphorically taking their vision of the world for himself). He also reads a lot, and reading books is a form of escapism, a way to see life through another's lenses. We saw how easy it was for him to become someone else (when he interacted with Neon), taking a role. His Hatsu (which is said to be a reflection of the user's personality) is all about stealing other Hatsus, even stating that what he really likes about "Skill Hunter" is understanding and mimicking the mind that created the Hatsu he is currently using.
    Although it is important to keep in mind that; despite his overall internal emptiness and unenthusiasm, he still cares for his fellow companions in the Phantom Troupe, even considering them as "friends" in his conversation with Neon. He cries when hearing about Uvogin's death and proceeds to mourn his passing by organizing the well-known "requiem". He is also seen to be extremely disturbed and angry after the death of Shalnark and Kortopi.
    This close relationship with the members of the troupe can serve as a reflection of the supposedly strong, deep and unbreakable bond that ties the citizens of Meteor City; or maybe it represents his desperate and unique attempt at building and constructing a concrete personality and identity; and finding meaning in life via the troupe, possibly all of the above.
    In short, Chrollo Lucilfer IS the Phantom Troupe; and the Phantom Troupe IS him.
    However, this particular emotional attachement is exclusive only to the Phantom Troupe. His indifference to other people's lives can be proven by his statement in the fight with Hisoka when he says that he fails to see a difference between a puppet and a human being, denoting his extreme nihilism. Nonetheless, he still holds some interest towards the human behaviors in general, which can be supported by his comments: "Humans are truly so very fascinating." -- "Humans are such a strange, mysterious thing...".
    What is fascinating - and frightening - by Chrollo is that he has become really good at becoming someone else for a moment. As someone who is no one he really has the potential to be everyone he wishes to be.
    In conclusion, I think that Chrollo is by far the most interesting character in HxH and easily one the best antagonists in all anime/manga.
    By the way, I really enjoy watching your videos. Hope you get the recognition you deserve. Keep up the good work! 👊🏾💯🔥

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +80

      Wow - incredible analysis! Definitely agree with all of your points, and you even took into account little details like him reading often or slightly shifting his personality at times. Absolutely love all the analysis that can come from this character

    • @mugi2617
      @mugi2617 2 года назад +21

      For sure! He definitely has a lot of depth to him, which makes him such a compelling and intriguing character. When asked about his favourite Phantom Troupe member in a previous interview, even Togashi admitted that it was indeed Danchō. You can look up for the whole interview in the wiki in case you didn't know about it.

    • @Jescek
      @Jescek 2 года назад +8

      Analyze some bitches bro

    • @jugrajkang4532
      @jugrajkang4532 2 года назад +2

      @@Jescek 💀💀💀

    • @remigal899
      @remigal899 2 года назад

      @@Jescek lmaooo

  • @luhyeat1
    @luhyeat1 2 года назад +588

    One thing I think is totally badass that is generally overlooked is his fight against silva and zeno. Everyone knows that he wasn't really fighting, but what people fail to mention is that he was using a nen ability that he had probably never even tried using before for the whole battle. He literally yolo'd against two elite assassins with owl's ability and still put up a decent fight

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +59

      LMAOOO best moment fr

    • @MrLukhut1
      @MrLukhut1 2 года назад +36

      I mean with how smart he is, it wasnt much of a yolo. He knew the ability well enough to use it in battle as its quite simple, and played a good role in the fight as well. He made a calculated decision, especially since his goal was to make it out alive, not to win.

    • @hydrox7x546
      @hydrox7x546 2 года назад

      @@MrLukhut1 he can defeat both of them in a 1v1

    • @MrLukhut1
      @MrLukhut1 2 года назад +10

      @@hydrox7x546 probably. Though they also train in combination attacks so risking a 2v1 would be dumb on his part, hence how he fought

    • @hydrox7x546
      @hydrox7x546 2 года назад

      @@MrLukhut1 if he’s serious he might defeat them in a 2v1 toor

  • @Mostbee
    @Mostbee 2 года назад +770

    "a group that he leads and which is essentially an extension of himself and his will"
    That sentence just made the phantom troupe's spider metaphor a whole lot meaningful

    • @Zavier21
      @Zavier21 2 года назад +6

      Ohhhhh shittttttt

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +20

      100%! Definitely a huge reason why they didn’t want to give him up

    • @jns6320
      @jns6320 2 года назад +12

      i mean the troupe constantly says chrollo is the head and they are the legs lol

    • @joaorebochooaw6321
      @joaorebochooaw6321 6 месяцев назад

      That's true for pretty much every single leader. Ever.

  • @ohyessiree
    @ohyessiree 2 года назад +363

    I’m many aspects he’s similar to gon: only caring what pertains to him and his friends. It’s interesting how this is approached indifferent ways in the show. It’s also cool how it really backs up the thesis of hxh of hunters are truly selfish creatures only caring about things that they want

    • @aryaraj1152
      @aryaraj1152 2 года назад +44

      oh wow. i actually think hisoka and gon are similar in many ways too. now that you mention chrollo, it just gets so interesting how the protagonist is in many ways a puzzle laid out by the antagonists

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +35

      HxH is amazing because all the main themes are reflected in so many different characters - absolutely love this series

    • @jaidenirving4738
      @jaidenirving4738 2 года назад +4

      They really are so similar but the show leads you to think of them in such different ways. If you take an objective and unbiased view, they're both villains.

    • @nagorepalaciosdelafuente
      @nagorepalaciosdelafuente 2 года назад

      @@aryaraj1152 I agree with that Gon surprisingly enough has traits of Chrollo and Hisoka.

    • @nasteay7497
      @nasteay7497 2 года назад +3

      I don't agree with gon, though gon cared very much Abt his friends. But gon is also compassionate to other even if he doesn't know them. We've seen this many times.

  • @blacksage81
    @blacksage81 2 года назад +68

    I was never a huge HXH fan but the second I saw Chrollo on screen among the spiders, I knew he was the real deal. We don't get villians like him often, so its best savor their villiany while you can

  • @louayker4249
    @louayker4249 2 года назад +274

    Togashi is one of the best writers ever especially when it comes to Antagonists.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +41

      Agreed - he really knows how to create intriguing characters regardless of their allegiances or morality.

    • @yasamujaddid6383
      @yasamujaddid6383 2 года назад

      what about bomber?

    • @PrasoonDwivedi08
      @PrasoonDwivedi08 2 года назад +7

      @@yasamujaddid6383 forgetting the great Tonpa ?

    • @louayker4249
      @louayker4249 2 года назад +3

      @@yasamujaddid6383
      His design was meh but he was a pretty solid villain for an arc about a deadly real life video game. He served well the plot.

    • @BballNintendo3
      @BballNintendo3 2 года назад +3

      Yeah Toguro and Sensui and Meruem are S tier villains. Hisoka and Chrollo are A tier in my opinion.

  • @iamyourdaddythereisnodenyi2669
    @iamyourdaddythereisnodenyi2669 2 года назад +486

    I’m surprised by the editing skills and the amazing commentary for such a small channel you deserve much more

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +14

      Thank you so much! Trying to get better with every video

    • @arz563
      @arz563 2 года назад +4

      @@Kuro4 keep it up

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +3

      @@arz563 you got it!

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      @Eli-akad 2 года назад +2

      Smaller channels usually have to passively compete with bigger channels in the same niche. So I notice a lot of time smaller channels are usually more likely to have quality content

  • @Casey_Truman
    @Casey_Truman 2 года назад +124

    11:38 You hit on something here that a lot of people miss, but is so crucial! Chrollo is the Spider. It's not just his ideology, but his identity, his purpose, his reason, his existence, his life now and beyond death. Chrollo sees his mortal life as just another part of the Spider, but his essence (soul) is the Spider itself. So if the Spider lives on, then Chrollo's soul lives on, even without his physical presence.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +12

      Yeah for sure! It’s interesting how his followers seem to care about him more than the whole Spider though - really shows how inspiring of a leader he is

  • @avocado1054
    @avocado1054 2 года назад +157

    This might sound weird, or even stupid but what if the spiders are like his 12 different personality traits, and he thinks of them as one person? For example, when shalnark dies in the manga, chrollo is seen way more sadder than he originally would be, and while that may be because his companion died, it also might mean he lost his somewhat cheerful personality trait, because in my opinion shalnark was probably the least depressed in the phantom troupe. Also kind of explains his eyes when illumi joined the phantom troupe. Idk tho just a thought. 🤷‍♀️

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +37

      Really interesting idea! Hopefully in the new chapters we see a bit more of the Troupe and what each individual means to Chrollo

    • @Skywalkaa
      @Skywalkaa Год назад +1

      U on it!!

    • @justsomeguywithnaturallywa3466
      @justsomeguywithnaturallywa3466 11 месяцев назад +8

      So would Uvogin’s death mean he lost his strength?

  • @BlankestKnight
    @BlankestKnight 2 года назад +147

    Chrollo seems to suffer from low self worth. He seems to mostly gain a sense of purpose through the Spiders. This is clear when he was kidnapped and was convinced that the Spiders wouldn't try to save him because his life had no meaning. Logically this shouldn't make any sense since he's the leader, and the head should be more important than the legs. Yet he thinks the opposite, that he's the one whose most disposable. This only makes sense once you realize that he believes himself to be valueless and expendable, and thus believes that his life can't have value to others. This is a more common line of thinking for people who suffer from low self esteem and self worth.

    • @nagorepalaciosdelafuente
      @nagorepalaciosdelafuente 2 года назад +13

      For sure also the fact that when the Troupe was created he didn't named himself leader, it was the other founding members who chose him, he then put the conditions that were mentioned in the anime

    • @andygarcia4497
      @andygarcia4497 2 года назад +3

      i dont believe he has low self worth, he wouldnt have goals or feel worthy of being the leader of the gang if that was the case.
      He is just more observational and objective, impersonal, he is a cloud with eyes.
      Objectively his life is worthless, subjectively not. He understands others well cuz he understands himself well. He dont feel his emotions but he rather observes them and yes he do feels them and manifest them, not always.
      also feeling or having a tought without purpose is another reason he is "introverted", not introverted but less expressfull, feelings and toughts are not yours always they just pass by thats why attending them is irrelevant cuz they serve no purpose, thats why its intresting to understand people and their tought patterns and the reason why they probably have those tought patterns.
      He is indifferent to death, cuz death will come either way.
      I share his toughts by always thinking, what do i want, why do i want what i want, so what if i get it. its got not to do with self worth its just observing reality. what if i marry the love of my life, what if not, i will live and die either way, im ok with it.
      i think he gains purpose through spider cuz if not that what else, money/fame/legacy? those are consumables, they are temporary. What he enjoys is experience, experiences lasts with u. its more purposeful and entertaining to be a part of something and understand and feel like a lot of people than just yourself and also to read. also what is more entertaining than being curious and understand humans around yourself.

    • @BballNintendo3
      @BballNintendo3 Год назад +4

      I thought it was made pretty clear he’s a nihilist

    • @happilyevernever4289
      @happilyevernever4289 Год назад +9

      ​@@andygarcia4497I don't think he understands himself at all. Why would he be searching for his own identity as an individual then? Also people can have low self worth and still have goals that are needed for survival. The important part to see here is how easily he is to cast his life away and truthfully saying it is not worth much. Also he never said he feels worthy of being a leader. Infact, he was shown he didn't wanna be until others made him.

  • @johnlindsay7301
    @johnlindsay7301 Год назад +16

    If Chrollo is your favorite than you must have loved these last few chapters of Hunter X Hunter. Chapters 395-397. Chrollo’s flashback. Wow were they great chapters. And Chrollo has moved up my favorite characters list. I dont even see him as an antagonist anymore. He’s almost a protagonist. Crazy but true.

  • @PrasoonDwivedi08
    @PrasoonDwivedi08 2 года назад +102

    It's mind boggling to me that this your first video. Such great presentation and editing.
    Plus about Chrollo he too is my fav HxH character. There is so little info given about him and with him being involved in the succession war I am super excited too se how his character will conclude.
    To me it feels like that Chrollo Lucifer's as a character has just only begun and we have seen only the tip of the iceberg. He may be one of the deepest character but we just haven't got to completely know him.
    Hopefully this hiatus will end soon and we'll get to see his character arc conclude.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +7

      Thanks so much! And yeah I'd love to see more about him - we know enough that he's super interesting, but not enough that I feel like we can fully understand him right now

  • @AHAHAHHAHA
    @AHAHAHHAHA 2 года назад +39

    Chrollo is one of those characters that you yourself can decide whenever they’re deep or not.Togashi obviously made him and his troupe different from regular criminals but people tend to overlook that.Chrollo is pretty closed off and mysterious so we don’t know what to think of him.It’s understandable that some fans overlook the deeper aspects of his character because yes from the little we know it takes hella lot of interpretation,analysis and just thought to try and understand him

    • @andygarcia4497
      @andygarcia4497 2 года назад

      the thing is, he is just experiencing life. sometimes his actions have meaning and somtimes not, unpredictable like human emotion and understandable cuz oof his use of logic.
      he is mysterious only cuz u wanna understand him. and being deep and not being it at all is human nature.
      what i just wrote could be deep or not, itss human nature, being confused, being not sure at 100%, embracing the chaos, sometimes in a calm way, sometimes there is no chaos.
      the only problem with being confused, is people using their ability to be confused as a way to portray wisdom by typing half assed phrases, or better yet tyipng wothout u yourself being 100% sure of what u tyied cuz of the writers desire for human attention, that problem is called not being righteous with yourself and lacking ability to embrace your inner chaos, by asking yourself questiions like "who am i and what do i want, why do i want what i want, what if i get it?"
      wisdom is only created by going to war with yourself by questioning yourself, in my opinion, by understanding your suffering u will understnd others, why they do what they do
      would u accept yourself if u hated yourself? if u became something u feel ashamed of, would u be ok with yourself then?? if yes. if yes what? i dont know, im just typing witought thinking right now aactually.

  • @Bella-rs4el
    @Bella-rs4el 2 года назад +63

    he's definitely one of my favourite characters in the series. I wouldn't say he's the best villain--just a personal opinion, but his nen ability and personality always keep me interested and yet there's never enough given to us. I'm always wishing for more screen time of him and a backstory, so I was really glad he's in the next arc.
    I feel like maybe I'm just in love with the potential he has as a villain. He isn't fleshed out enough yet, but it seems that his character arc will be understanding who he is, why he does what he does, and hopefully gains some conscious sense of morality. At least, this is what it seems his character arc will be considering all his comments in his fight with Hisoka and then his monologue in the york new arc.

    • @jana5686
      @jana5686 11 месяцев назад

      me too, part of me has hope that Chrollo has the potential to be moral. Even though he's villain, I still feel for him, it's quite strange

  • @irfbey9557
    @irfbey9557 2 года назад +9

    Absolutely, Chrollo has to be the most overlooked character ever

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +2

      Glad you appreciate him as well!

    • @irfbey9557
      @irfbey9557 2 года назад +1

      @@Kuro4 i’m his greatest fan of course i did

  • @vannakinder352
    @vannakinder352 Год назад +13

    With these recent chapters, if Togashi is setting up what I think he is setting up the setting of Kurapika vs Phantom Troupe may become muddier with more information. It can be a very important commentary on how disenfranchised groups are pitted against each other. One group being residents of one of the poorest vulnerable places at one point against the last member of a dying out persecuted minority. I think it can emotionally impact me even more than the last act of the chimera ant arc did.

    • @GuyKage
      @GuyKage Год назад

      Sorry as you may be busy, but I'm happy today I started an anime channeI if could take a look. Appreciate all the support.

  • @jiniseeh
    @jiniseeh 2 года назад +18

    Incredible explanation! Excited for what coming next :)

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! Been busy but hopefully putting out something in a few days :)

  • @ilovecody7514
    @ilovecody7514 Год назад +4

    And he's only been elevated to a higher level with the new batch. You love to see it when a video ages finer a year later.

  • @wormegranate
    @wormegranate 2 года назад +20

    this is an absolutely fantastic video!!
    i just recently finished hunter x hunter and chrollo is a character that really, really resonated with me. i adore him for so many reasons and its nice to be getting recommended videos loving on him >:]
    i saw on twitter that youre reading stone ocean- i have no idea how far in you are but pucci reminds me a shit ton of chrollo for a ton of reasons so i really hope you enjoy him as a villain as well! they’ve both stuck with me very deeply

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +5

      Wow thank you so much! Chrollo’s my favourite character - I just think he’s so interesting.
      Also I’m really surprised anyone’s seen my Twitter LOL, I’m only about 20 chapters into Stone Ocean but I absolutely love it so far. Pretty much every Jojo villain is goated

  • @ehudezra4610
    @ehudezra4610 2 года назад +32

    Chrollo is a very compelling antagonist(for different reasons then Hisoka)...not evil (I'd say he's more of a bad guy rather then evil for the sake of being evil (like Togashi presented Gyro) but he's very charismatic smart pretty complex about his ideals(about life and death) and has Nen ability that fits his actions of a thief...he has no real identity outside being the head of the spider while he considers the legs to be more important
    i do make distinctions between bad and evil(examples for bad are Aizen Kaido Meruem Chrollo Madara Pain Obito Furuta Zeref(those with a decent end goal but evil actions in the way of reaching this goal)...evil are characters like All For One Imu Dio Lucifero Otsutsuki clan )
    He is 1 of those rare villains

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +10

      Yeah I’d say Chrollo doesn’t necessarily have a big end goal that justifies his actions, but he isn’t presented as evil really. He has a very abnormal moral compass which facilitates him being the way he is

    • @joseole1117
      @joseole1117 2 года назад +3

      He was perfectly fine with genocide and cutting out dead peoples eyes to sell them for quick cash. He is 100 percent evil and only cares about his own gang, which who knows why he even cares about them, perhaps because he views them as his little puppets rather than actual people.
      Yes chrollo can experience deep emotion but it's not true empathy rather just grief over losing his valuable puppets. HE views people as property nothing more nothing less. now he still is an intriguing figure and is very cold and calculated which makes him fun to watch despite being evil.

    • @dzlightbringer1891
      @dzlightbringer1891 2 года назад +2

      It’s hard to say if chrollo is pure evil or just bad even him don’t know and try to find an answer to explain his actions

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +5

      @@joseole1117 I think your point of view is understandable, but I also believe you're selling Chrollo short as a character. There are plenty of characters who view their followers as "puppets" (One Piece has a couple good examples of this archetype, the Godhand from Berserk, Light from Death Note), and I've never seen one of those characters show the type of remorse and grief Chrollo has in regards to the Phantom Troupe. I believe Chrollo cares about the members of the Troupe, but he also views the Troupe as something that provides him with purpose and meaning in life. Both things can be true at once.
      Does this make him a good person? Of course not - but I don't believe he represents the type of pure evil that can be found in some other antagonists.

    • @fideletamo4292
      @fideletamo4292 2 года назад +1

      @@joseole1117 thanks, the Guy is a sick bastard..and he did all this for no reason, or understandable motive he's evil, i don't Care about his empathy for his dead criminal Friends..i Care about his victims..he's a monster just like Griffith or meruem..

  • @jaydenm5228
    @jaydenm5228 2 года назад +25

    Agreed he’s up there with Meruem

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +5

      Both amazing in their own ways for sure!

    • @fideletamo4292
      @fideletamo4292 2 года назад

      Meruem is just a baby Monster who want to turn humans into slaves unless they have some incredible talent..he's the opposite of humanity

    • @Kxncv
      @Kxncv 2 года назад +3

      @@fideletamo4292 …

    • @fideletamo4292
      @fideletamo4292 2 года назад

      @@Kxncv am i wrong?

    • @abdulbutt2850
      @abdulbutt2850 2 года назад

      @@fideletamo4292 not really

  • @ohyessiree
    @ohyessiree 2 года назад +3

    Gosh this makes me want to make a video on why Ging is a great dad! Perfect video my man!

  • @puffyclouds1485
    @puffyclouds1485 2 года назад +10

    Great video. Hisoka vs Chrolla is still the most confusing fight I’ve ever read

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      Yeahhh it was kinda mind bending the first time I read it

  • @DarthMolen
    @DarthMolen 2 года назад +5

    so underrated my jaw dropp when i saw how little views there were

  • @grantzu
    @grantzu 3 месяца назад +1

    his backstory might be my favorite of all time it's so good man i love chrollo

  • @aso375
    @aso375 Год назад +21

    For me the most terrifying thing about Chrollo is not his power, intellect or cruelty, it is his appearance.
    Other characters Uvogin, Feitan and Phinks have the faces of murderous thugs and therefore anyone with common can see they are monsters.
    Chrollo on the other hand has the appearance of a common civilian, his voice is soft and he is able to come off as a kind and harmless person.
    It reminds me of monsters in real life like Himmler or Beria that at first glance seem insignificant and can pass as normal people but they are completely hideous and twisted people.

    • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
      @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 10 месяцев назад

      Himmler and Beria fought bravely for their people's. And so has Chrollo fought for his friends (the troupe) and his people in his city

  • @emilyberryhill5401
    @emilyberryhill5401 4 месяца назад +1

    Chrolo is so intriguing because as he said he has his own philosophy and values, he is unpredictable and so unique , no one is like him. You are so interested in what is his goal or purpose plus he is so cool and pretty

  • @pumpkinarthur
    @pumpkinarthur 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for your analysis, it was enlightening and constructive

  • @djefardeur7958
    @djefardeur7958 2 года назад +5

    he is definitely the most mysterious, interesting and charismatic character

  • @gnikem
    @gnikem 2 года назад +4

    How is this only 30k views, Imma share this vid with my friends, good job man, keep it up

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Thank you!

  • @ThaIesH225
    @ThaIesH225 2 года назад +3

    Best antagonist of all time
    Frieza: And I took that personally

  • @giffica
    @giffica 2 года назад +11

    It’s mostly just the way togashi expressed emotions on a level no other mangaka bar maybe inoue can match.

  • @Drogan-f9p
    @Drogan-f9p 2 года назад +6

    keep making videos like these, i would love more manga antagonist videos

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +2

      Yeah I'm planning on making more vids on the best antagonists/protagonists - any suggestions for the next one?

    • @Drogan-f9p
      @Drogan-f9p 2 года назад

      @@Kuro4 honestly you do whichever you like, but 2 very underrated antagonists/protagonists IMO are The Major (Montana Max) and Alucard from Hellsing and Shishio Makoto and Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin, i love both these series each antag and protag.

  • @kiyudp1608
    @kiyudp1608 2 года назад +31

    nice video! very interesting, i can tell you put alot of thought into it and im looking forward to watching more of your videos~ [and also for the manga to continue... someday :')]

  • @jxy3
    @jxy3 2 года назад +7

    great video! i love anything around the phantom troupe. this video was nicely put together, cant wait to see what other media you talk about. :)

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Thanks so much! HxH is at its best when the Phantom Troupe is on screen imo

  • @forrnx.
    @forrnx. 2 года назад +8

    wonderful video, wonderful script, wonderful concept, wonderful villain choice, wonderful pronunciation of his last name (there is an extra L he isn't straight up the devil. i mean he isn't NOT the devil but you get my point). good video man. earned my sub 😁❤️

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Haha I'm glad you enjoyed! Had to take extra care to pronounce his name properly

  • @MikouKayu
    @MikouKayu Год назад +11

    When I was watching HxH last year, Chrollo reminded me about Johan Liebert in some ways. They both have similar inner energy, I think (I cannot explain that simply - their personalities are really deep and complicated). In my opinion, they are one of the best antagonist of all times

  • @Josh-jr5oi
    @Josh-jr5oi Год назад +3

    The recent answer provided in the manga adds another layer to Crollo

    • @Eazymas971
      @Eazymas971 Год назад +1

      I was going to say the same but this video what made long time ago. It mostly about revenge for there friend which was brutally killed. I don’t think Crollo is best antagonist but HxH as an manga, anime or even story telling totally change expectations of readers or viewers. Like when Gon was training to defeat Hisoka you would expect Gon to beat him or at least make it competitive but that did not happen or in Crimera Ant arc Gon was not the main character . Sadly HxH all these arcs was just introduction for the Dark Continent build up.

  • @Human_traain
    @Human_traain 2 года назад +1

    This content, editing and story telling is unrivalled💪😤

  • @rome-tk5vd
    @rome-tk5vd 2 года назад +11

    tbh imo he’s mysterious, which makes him cool. he looks cool. and bandits secret and how he gets his powers means he has to be suave and cunning which is cool. and he fights strong opponents by being cunning.. so he’s basically cool.

    • @rome-tk5vd
      @rome-tk5vd 2 года назад

      but i mean this guy said a lot of what i just said. i just don’t think chrollo is that interesting past being cool. i’d need a backstory or more insight into his perspective to really feel depth in his character.

  • @lizzog4553
    @lizzog4553 Месяц назад +1

    Very underrated channel

  • @pluto9837
    @pluto9837 2 года назад +7

    The manga is coming back... So i hope we'll get to see more of him before another potential Hiatus.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Yeah I’m so excited!! Even if we don’t see Chrollo at least we’ll definitely see Kurapika a lot

    • @vikhdez9306
      @vikhdez9306 2 года назад +1

      My God this aged well

  • @vampswagg
    @vampswagg 2 года назад +3

    this is such a W video bruh,continue grinding bro.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Thanks! :)

  • @_rubyrose10_
    @_rubyrose10_ Год назад +1

    relly agree i find his character really interesting and intriguing and not like your typical villains and hes also rlly handsome to me :)

  • @wolfbrigade8042
    @wolfbrigade8042 2 года назад +5

    Maybe it's kind of an Eren Jäger situation again where Chrollo does what he does because it's in his nature to do so. In any case, the mystery revolving him really is one of the biggest reasons he is so intruiging.

  • @monkey39128
    @monkey39128 Год назад +5

    Chrollo always gave me Lovecraftian vibes in the sense that it's what we don't know that makes him scary. He and Hisoka unnerved me far more than Meruem ever did (Not that Meruem isn't a fantastic character).

  • @xUM94x
    @xUM94x Год назад +2

    I watched HXH a couple years back and tbh I didn’t even remember the guy. Can’t be that iconic

  • @anime-ye1qs
    @anime-ye1qs 2 года назад +5

    Chrollo falls somewhere between Hisoka and Illumi --- he's not as extreme as either of them
    But, then again, he has both Hisoka and Illumi's weird/mysterious personality traits which make him all the more mysterious
    While in visuals and in many conversations, Chrollo seems like a person who can suit as a protagonist or as a caring antagonist who has reasons for the path he chooses, Chrollo doesn't know himself (as stated here)
    Probably as Chrollo is still shrouded with mystery and has mysterious elements from antagonists from other series all mixed in his character, i never paid him as much attention as Hisoka or Illumi
    But, Chrollo being a mystery in all aspects (starting from all the nen powers in that book or the conditions to satisfy to steal a power, to the purpose of his existence and reasons for his actions --- nothing is known) is a unique trait and that veil of mystery around him just makes it more worth for people to explore deep into the character

    • @jeemu3141
      @jeemu3141 2 года назад +1

      I like to point out that mystery alone is not what makes a character good, sure it sparks interest and intrigue but that's just the surface level. If you're gonna make a character the mysterious type, you have to make sure the character isn't just enigmatic for the sake of being enigmatic, they should have substance to them and actually be possible to decipher.
      Chrollo isn't just a great character cus he's mysterious, he's great cus his mysterious nature can be deciphered if you're observant enough and when you unravel who he is, he's revealed to be a very complex and interesting character so the question of "who this person is?" Actually has a satisfying answer.
      Most hxh fans forget this sadly and just like his character cus he looks "cool and mysterious", never actually understanding his character even this video didn't feel like it did Chrollo justice, most of the time he just talked about how cool and mysterious Chrollo looks, pretty surface level stuff.

    • @anime-ye1qs
      @anime-ye1qs 2 года назад +1

      @@jeemu3141 right
      His character is deep
      Mystery is indeed one of the elements which makes him interesting but the fact that you can't put him into any standards while analysing his moves, makes him all the more worth exploring

  • @khunagueroagnis2558
    @khunagueroagnis2558 2 года назад +2

    Your crazy underated dude, great video!

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Thanks so much!

  • @eternality3891
    @eternality3891 2 года назад +15

    chrollo is definitely my favorite character in hxh, idk why people hate on him.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +11

      People hate on him?? He’s so goated

    • @_SMOKEDOJA
      @_SMOKEDOJA 2 года назад +1

      @@Kuro4 how do u feel about zeno

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +2

      @@_SMOKEDOJA would love to see more of him, all the Zoldycks are really interesting!

    • @avoryeda7606
      @avoryeda7606 2 года назад +3

      I love Chrollo in the 1999 show, but in 2011 a lot of his scenes are done very poorly, with him moving far less impressively/emotionally at the requiem, his confrontation with Kurapika in the car having inappropriate voice acting and music that don't seem to understand the scene and its tone and do a really bad job character building, as well as pretty bad editing which loses the tension and sense of claustrophobia, plus not containing the best parts that were included in the 1999 version like the beat-down, and the moment Kurapika starts with the beatdown makes almost no sense in 2011 while in 1999 Chrollo reveals his taunting and manipulation and control of the situation to goad him.
      2011 tries to make Chrollo larger than life, while 1999 keeps him very human
      When I finished watching 2011's York-New for the first time I gave it a 2/10 and thought it was the worst arc of the show, when I watched the 1999 version a few months later I gave it a 9.5/10 and thought it was the best part of HxH.
      Rewatching parts of both shows for comparison only strengthened that belief

    • @remigal899
      @remigal899 2 года назад

      No one hates on him

  • @fei_tan3873
    @fei_tan3873 2 года назад +2

    Amazing video man, you deserve wayyyy more attention, this is so well made!

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Thanks so much! Trying to get better with every vid

  • @franko8502
    @franko8502 2 года назад +2

    this is high quality mate, you need more visibility!

  • @sysyemshaha
    @sysyemshaha 2 года назад +2

    This made me appreciate chrollos character a lot more a lot of these points I definitely missed out on while watching especially around 11:20 when he said even if I die the spider can still live on or something of that sort overall great video

  • @GroudonsGame
    @GroudonsGame 2 года назад

    As a small content creator I appreciate the work you've put out

  • @morenafromthevineyard
    @morenafromthevineyard 2 года назад +3

    Togashi is one of the GOATS when it comes to characters. Especially with antagonists.

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      He puts so much thought into his characters, absolutely fantastic writer!

  • @Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried
    @Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried 3 месяца назад

    “Is that the key to understanding myself” is basically the entire point of the whole show in my opinion. It’s a beautiful notion, that an antagonist so embroiled in evil acts has the slightest amount of remorse while also having so much conviction. He’s almost more layered than kurapika and that’s saying a lot.

  • @marga9003
    @marga9003 2 года назад

    i love this so much. thank you for sharing this, i'm glad i'm not the only person who understand chrollo in an extent lmao

  • @philshumble6954
    @philshumble6954 2 года назад +3

    good video , nice edits and good approach

  • @nagorepalaciosdelafuente
    @nagorepalaciosdelafuente 2 года назад +1

    He is by far my favorite character in HxH, no one can take that place in my heart 🕷️😍❤️

  • @avreyh5264
    @avreyh5264 2 года назад +1

    This is such a good video it's videos like these that make me wish hxh is still going

  • @Kakashilookinguy
    @Kakashilookinguy 11 месяцев назад +1

    One important thing you missed
    Bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum

  • @kinghassan3122
    @kinghassan3122 2 года назад +5

    Chrollo is my no.1 anime character of all time

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      SAME

  • @skyzdalimit2495
    @skyzdalimit2495 2 года назад +6

    Chrollo is by far one of my favorite charters in anime ever. everything about him is just so sick, i wish he had more screen time, the only other person i wish had more screen time is feitan. his fight with the one is was by far one of the best fights in hxh in my opinion. hes such a sick character, we can only hope the creator of hunterxhunter continues and we see more of both.

  • @zinryl
    @zinryl 10 месяцев назад

    Wow! I've never considered that detail before (Chrollo asking Gon)! That makes Chrollo so much more human tbh

  • @cache_jpeg
    @cache_jpeg 2 года назад +5

    He is too calm. POUF IS DA BEST IMO like i literally laugh with him or laugh at him haha

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +3

      Haha I really enjoy Pouf as well, although Pitou was always the Ant that stood out to me tbh

  • @XohjaiSbarkeater
    @XohjaiSbarkeater Год назад +1

    When you explained cholo's philosophy I grew to respect your opinion. For now I agree. Edit: sorry for your loss man.

  • @kurapikakurta8260
    @kurapikakurta8260 2 года назад +2

    and in the chrollo manga it is given a better development that is to say that chrollo is even better

  • @tjm11015
    @tjm11015 Год назад

    To truly understand what it is like, you have to lead a group of the forgotten and discarded into battle. Put your lives in front of theirs and know absolutely that will do the same for you. That is the bond of people who grew up in true hell.

  • @alejandrohidalgo834
    @alejandrohidalgo834 Год назад +1

    Chrollo is a poet, he travel to York as Lorca traveled to York. And so on and so on

    • @GuyKage
      @GuyKage Год назад

      Sorry as you may be busy, but I'm happy today I started an anime channeI if could take a look. Appreciate all the support.

  • @katsumoto9143
    @katsumoto9143 2 года назад +3

    1:59 I like your take on Chrollo but Genthru is a great villain too, I think he's one of the most evil encounter in HxH, the dude is so mean.

  • @rengarthehunter8641
    @rengarthehunter8641 2 года назад +3

    Askeladd from vinland saga, is my favorite antagonist.

  • @Dardasha_Studios
    @Dardasha_Studios 11 месяцев назад

    I knew he was very interesting when I was a child watching the 1990's version on T.V. and fought the Zoldicks. BAM!!
    Great character!!

  • @hteteaindraykyaw996
    @hteteaindraykyaw996 Год назад +2

    Especially with addition of recent chapter event.

  • @deimos0094
    @deimos0094 11 месяцев назад +2

    His diss on Bleach 😂
    Soo true tho.

  • @Gigga9
    @Gigga9 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video, was really great.

  • @tomyc662
    @tomyc662 10 месяцев назад +1

    now i think about it i never really figured out what his true motive was lol bro jus disappeared after 15 episodes

  • @chrispolo25
    @chrispolo25 2 года назад +4

    Nice analysis I really enjoyed it.
    Can you do Ganishka from Berserk?, I found him underrated but nonetheless a well written villain.

    • @killua1293
      @killua1293 2 года назад

      Yes i love the emperor of Kushan

  • @javiergomez9464
    @javiergomez9464 2 года назад

    This vid is really well made man, I just subbed, keep up the good work 👍

  • @meir2161
    @meir2161 Год назад

    I remember when it was revealed that Chrollo was on the boat. probably my favourite panel in the manga

  • @Digga_216
    @Digga_216 2 года назад

    Personally Chrollo is my fav as well bro. We need more of him on screen. Great vid 💯

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      Thanks :) Would love to see Chrollo vs Hisoka animated!

    • @Digga_216
      @Digga_216 2 года назад

      @@Kuro4 Yea they need to animate that Asap. The moment Chrollo says "Break Hisoka" still is one of those lines I get chills hearing

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      @@Digga_216 for sure! Was re-reading that chapter yesterday and it’s so hype

  • @Alfazri57
    @Alfazri57 2 года назад

    Now, give this man more sub.
    Thanks for your breakdown, you've got new subs here, cheers mate.

  • @sinenhlanhladlamini8544
    @sinenhlanhladlamini8544 2 года назад +3

    chrollo reminds me of the quite kid

  • @gulayse9065
    @gulayse9065 2 года назад +1

    my friends used to keep making fun of me cus chrollo was my fav character (after meruem probably)
    I’m sending this video as proof

  • @ibukunokunoye4795
    @ibukunokunoye4795 2 года назад

    Your commentary is great!

  • @kingwahib1145
    @kingwahib1145 2 года назад +3

    Sheeesh such a good video

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Nobodysurvivesevenonebit
    @Nobodysurvivesevenonebit 2 года назад +1

    One of the best antagonists

  • @cesaruy247
    @cesaruy247 2 года назад

    He is also my number 1 character of all time. Hands down, the best

  • @josueorgoaway
    @josueorgoaway Год назад

    What I love about Chrollo (and hxh) is that he is practically the other main character.

  • @kaceycat3661
    @kaceycat3661 2 года назад

    Yes the moment I saw him in hxh I always love and admire him.

  • @4nothyy
    @4nothyy 2 года назад +6

    So glad the algorithm blessed me with this, everything in it is explained really well, and the editing is on point. I'll make sure to check out some of your other videos, keep it up.

  • @ramkumarm8957
    @ramkumarm8957 2 года назад

    Waitthis is your first video!? Bruh it's amazing

  • @lemun3520
    @lemun3520 2 года назад +1

    Great video bro, many people say that hxh gets better at chimera but not many acknowledge yorknew city arc and chrollo, they just say that meruem is the best villian well he is goated but doesn't even understand chrollo, many of my friends say that chrollo was really bland and not interesting but when I ask them they don't even know about chrollo's character properly, chrollo is so underrated. For me chrollo > meruem.

  • @_zombie_queen_
    @_zombie_queen_ Год назад

    He makes me understand why people have life-sized anime pillows. Im crushing on a man who isn't real. This is just like ff9. Freaking zidane started this. Plus, he's such a complex character, with such an amazing abality...stacking abalities like ofa.

  • @Quanny_
    @Quanny_ 2 года назад

    After these recent HxH Chapts this vid resonates even more now🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @joshuawright4254
    @joshuawright4254 2 года назад

    Yes I can see him being one of my favorites.

  • @frenchbread8083
    @frenchbread8083 2 года назад +3

    Great video!

    • @Kuro4
      @Kuro4  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! Appreciate it

  • @bfuryy
    @bfuryy 2 года назад +2

    He aight bro