I gotta agree. It's so refreshing seeing people do really good analysis. I don't want to hear people making up bullshit. Arguments or predicting what will happen with somebody's record. I just want to learn about the team and you're doing a great job of it.
Solid video man. From the visual and audio to the insight and analysis. Subbed for sure. CLE Will be awesome to see Hall go against Zinter. The rivalry will carry on
The media are all paid off to shit on the Browns no matter how much worse other teams are. The only true souls are the people from this town like Joey.
I’m exciting about this year’s draft, based on what I’ve seen and heard here! I love underdogs and good work ethic. That has been the basis of every good Browns team. I’ve began watching the Browns, since Jim Brown’s rookie season, when I was two. lol I remember him pushing Wooten and Hickerson into blocks, like a hot rod e re acre shifting gears. I remember Warfield catching and running with panache. I remember Frank Ryan and Gary Collins beating the Baltimore Colts, while the “sorry” D blanked the premier QB/WR duo.
Man it's surreal to see Lions playing at a very very high level..plus nice draft..you have the perfect coach for that team.i love when he said.I want players just like me.But with talent..this year if he takes the points put in front of him.instead of some crazy moves..the Lions will really Roar
I swear your assessment on this year's draft is identical to what I think. People are crazy saying we didn't have a great draft with what we had to work with. We have three pics that are going to push for starting position their first year and if they don't start their play when they do get time is going to force the coaching staff to put them on the field more in my opinion. Hall , Watson, and thrash are all steels of this draft. I love watching that linebacker! I think he's going to end up starting by first five or six games. He played in the toughest conference in the country and filled up the stat sheets. He's big and physical and moves well for somebody his size. I'm a big Notre Dame fan and that kid thrash impressed the hell out of me. Steve Smith had a lot of great things to say about him as well. And we got a future starter on the offensive line as well. How can you go wrong?
Love your vids we need some browns parlays this szn. All this knowledge on the team can go a long way especially when their undervalued by the world lol
This was such an excellent video. The video quality, your takes and how well spoken you are led to me subscribing. This was my 1st video for u btw, but I know that I'll watch many more. Great job!
just popped up on my feed. 21 minutes is a little long, but i noticed all the edited parts and thought what the hell. very concise on what you where putting across. could have a little more explanation on the video, but i don´t know the copyright laws. I will subscribe. Thanks.
You have a good pulse on the browns and their picks. Hall not being a 3 down DT and his ability to disappear in some of OSU's games is, in my opinion, what kept him out of the first round. Hall's twitch and pass rush is perfect for Jim Schwartz's defense in a rotation-based system and he adds youth to an aging interior. Zinter's injury and his negatives caused him to slip to the 3rd round, but he's first round ability ceiling. Zinter also was a captain on the team and a lifeblood of their O line. Thrash fits the new Deshaun/Dorsey spread/west coast/RPO offense and Thrash's YAC was very attractive to Berry. I hope Thrash out plays Tillman and Bell early and earns some early reps. Thrash's intelligence gives him a big edge over Tillman and Thrash's route running abilities should push him past bell. If any of the other guys even earn backup or special teams rolls it's a win. Berry goes big school, big talent ceiling in early picks and the later round picks is where he gets into smaller school players and special team with an upside to earn roles, type of players.
appreciate that, and I agree. Tillman will have to take a pretty significant leap to stave off Thrash, either way, it's a tide that will raise all ships
Considering what they had to work with I thought at the time that they couldn't have done better than they did and gave them an A-. Drafting a DT and OL was something that probably should have been done last year but these are two really good choices for the reasons you mentioned. I was particularly encouraged by taking Thrash who will add a needed speed element in stretching the field hopefully. The Browns roster doesn't have any real holes in it but each of these picks has the potential to make the team. I don't think I've ever seen that before. Because this lineup is LOADED. And if they're able to improve upon that then you have to consider this draf a MAJOR success if even half of these guy makes the team or practice squad.
I give this video an A+. The media dumps on the browns no matter what. Just wait who jumps on the band wagon when they realize the Browns are for real. Remember, this is the same media that glorifies "swifties" and all that girlie man drama. BROWNS '24!!!! Thanks Joe!
This is one of the better drafts I think we've had in a long time. We got quality depth with players that are going to see significant playing time in their first year. They also have the ability to be future starters for a very long time. How can you go wrong with that?
As a student currently attending USD and does sports media and watched Myles Harden play every snap last year he will be an absolute amazing pickup for the Browns as he never gets beat by the offense he just knows the game and how to play the way he plays!!!! P.S. this is coming from a Cowboys fan that isn’t interested in the browns 😂
20:00 People also forget that we lost Chubb too… losing your starting QB AND the second best back in the league at a time where you could not find a meaningful upgrade is devastating to an offense Even if Chubb doesn’t come back (which he will at some point this year). Adding a quality back like Donta Foreman is huge… Jerome Ford having an offseason to prepare for the bulk of carries is huge Also this team is far more prepared at QB in the event Watson gets hurt… Jameis and Huntley are far better and more experienced than DTR
As a steeler fan this browns draft has scary potential esp with the lack of picks think they nailed the ones they had. As far as national media the only person more ridiculous then cowherd is nick Wright
To the Steelers fan..Thank you..and to my Chagrin you all stole Fields..I don't like Fields just because he was a buckeye..I like him because he's going to be very good.hes a class act also
i’m gonna catch some heat for saying this from the haters, but Hall reminds me an awful lot like another undersized DT that was drafted out of pittsburgh some years ago
We drafted zero year one starters. Two guys that maybe, hopefully, can start at some point in the next few years. If that is crushing it then what is not crushing it? Gotta stay grounded my man.
Michael Hall Jr will get as many reps as any other tackle who was drafted this year, Jamari Thrash will be WR3 - the Browns didn’t need vast improvements, they needed to draft to stay relevant for years to come
@@optimisticfanclubThen I ask again, what would not be crushing it? Edit. The is the first video I've seen from you. I just want to get a feel for how realistic you are. Most browns content is in outer space right now. Found the video entertaining. The Thrash take is pretty wild. Lol. If it comes to pass I'll be glued to the channel.
I was also thinking we would draft a TE2...Michael Hall was a good pick I was hoping we would also pick up Cade Stover, but a good guard is never a bad thing.
I think Michael Hall Jr is going to come in and contribute right away. you are right the sports media has dumped on the Browns for years and it's their yearly ritual to do it but they're going to eat crow this year
Stop! You’re not a loaded roster. I really wish Browns fans stop overhyping their team. You got dogwalked by a young Texans team. Where was all that loaded roster???
@@ManofSteel216OCthey absolutely do have a loaded roster dummy Flacco lost them that game, plain and simple they were also missing over 39% of their payroll to injury if flacco doesn’t throw back to back p6s that game ends a bit differently
watson played much better than most give him credit for plus, have to remember he had only played 6 games prior to this season he was always gonna need at least half a season to get back into form that’s about where he was when they played tennessee and from that game on, he was really good those last 3 games before going down with that injury, he had a rating of around 104 which woulda been good for 3rd best in the nfl had he kept that pace and didn’t get hurt
Deshaun Watson is coming to play. Just ask the Ravens they know what to say. Deshaun beat them with one arm and foot. The media and haters were afraid to look. Deshaun is back, and ya'll will see the G.O.A.T will make HISTORY.
That was a very bad Titans team, Henry will be a lot more productive behind a good oline with a great dual threat QB when he can't be keyed in on every play
Best move of all was Vrabel. Only if Shitstainski takes some advice. Because if he doesn't, and they're not a successful team this season, Vrabel could snatch that HC job. Imagine making adjustments during the Game. 👀
I disagree with someone saying none of them are first year starters..Hall is the Bruiser from up north is.Watson is.Thrash omg..and that undrafted bowling ball at running back..i see first year starters .and one hell of special teams
I gotta imagine if you're short on picks the reason why you were short on picks is going to have an impact on how others perceive your draft. These drafts were always going to have the Watson stink on them.
While Im not as high on Thrash as you (woulda preferred Isaiah Williams or Ryan Flournoy), i do think his YAC ability does fit a need for the team. So cant hate on it
Trash would be a nice story but hard to say he will even get playing time this year. Jeudy is the clear #1 they want. Depends if they reach a new deal with Cooper (probably short extension) He's competing with Bell for a roster spot. Jury still out on Tillman. He's looked good in camp and I think he could have himself a nice role this year. Idk what to make of Moore. The way they use him, his role is easily replaceable. Trash could take his role. Either way I expect the Browns to draft another wr early next year to fill a potential void of losing Moore and Cooper. I actually liked this draft alot because they took solid football players. Hall being an upside gamble (either be a top DT or a pass rush specialist only) The final 3 picks were all solid football players that play hard. I think they all find a way to make the 53. The DT from Cinnci seems like he was overlooked in this class and Browns will need big powerful guys up front. I wouldnt be shocked if Hurst didnt make the roster to keep him because I doubt he clears waivers.
I'd say from the standpoint of knowing where he needs to be and executing when his name has been called, he has done very well. I think the issue with Bell purely comes to the physical - his frame is a lot smaller than most people realized, and this limits how much playing time he gets because of the Browns approach to the run game. Overall, Bell is a very good backup/WR4 and that's valuable in its own right The jury isn't out on him, but I do think Thrash is the perfect balance between route running, mental ability, and size. He's more of a Diggs/Antonio Brown body type which he'll be able to fill out eventually. Don't forget his huge TD vs Jacksonville!! Thanks for watching
@@ManofSteel216OC Clownshow lol. Bengals 2010-last place, 2011 #3, 2016-#3, 2017-#3, 2018-last place, 2019-last place, 2020-last place, 2023-last place...not sure I'd gloat that record too much there chief. You had 2 good years. And your trophy case is still empty.
We invented football in northeast ohio. The browns were sold as super bowl contender with bellicheck and Ozzie the browns wouldve been dynasty. The jags and panthers got good so fast the owners were pissed therefore when the browns returned in 99 the owners screwed them cuz the protected all the goid players unlike the jags and titans the nfl made sure they srt the browns 30 years back.
Maybe it`s just my ancient eyes coach, but I could use a woe up on the reins with your in depth film study lol... I wouldn`t sweat the NYC espy girls table gossip, they`ve their girls to pasify in Tejas so let`m go do their qvc thing, I`d rather get the Madden 70s Raider treatment and they were always hanging around at the end beat`n on the lil lady teams until they took their dolls and went home...I`ve been spying the other camps and they got some serious holes to fill and rooks get a lot of stares like the freshman girls did by us seniors in HS, but we always new it was the usual suspects that were the Raquel Welch..keep on rockin Joey and giddyup
I'm drawing a comparison to their skillsets, size, and their pre-draft evaluations, I'm not implying that he'll wind up becoming like Aaron Donald. Donald is one of the greatest defensive players of all time, however, his pre-draft evaluations had him as an average starter.
The medias Cleveland hate is real. Always has been. This team won 11 games with all the injuries they had. Our defense is ELITE. This draft was far from D- quality. The Browns are better then Pittsburgh. They're trotting out Russel Wilson and)or Justin Fields at QB. Joe Burrow struggles against Cleveland. No last place finish for this team. We'll have the last laugh
That a high grade I think still I gave them a B- to C+ I really like all the picks tho I thought it was a great draft and your better at this job then those bozo clowns
lazy cleveland narrative has always been a thing. back when the cavs beat the warriors.. it was about how the warriors lost more than about cleveland winning. then of course.. the warriors signed durant and everybody forgot the cavs even won.
I hatedSteve Smith when we played him..but that man does not just say nice things about many receivers..to me what he says.is the truth..Baldinger also .man gave his all he knows talent..Berry did very well..these younguns will push others.f-- Nick wright all of Espn.i love when they say we will be last..im very serious if Somehow they could just get Will to stay on his man..4 will ball.he has to have Will play better..Thrash is the real deal.i love Hall.and that road grater from up north will look good next to conklin or our monster from Ohio State..with Hall putting up pressure in middle..quarterbacks will be running right into our outstanding Ends..its ok Watson isnt that fadt in middle..he just needs to hold runner up .or re route him to joker
Dude you're reaching here 😂.. people counting out the Browns cause so far it looks like Watson happy to take the money and run. if He plays football again they are legit but thats a giant "IF"
🤨 Why wouldn’t he play football again?? He literally BROKE HIS SHOULDER. You think he’s getting injured on purpose and is purposely avoiding playing??? Such a RIDICULOUS take…
I’m a browns fan and even I think they had one of the worst draft in the last few years, not all management fault we just didn’t have a lot of picks and we had lots of small holes to fill.
Thank you for the love I get so sick of the hate and negativity we get from media.
That's what we're doin all the time! thanks for watching and hope you stick around!
I like it when the media is harsh on Cleveland. They perform above expectations every time. When they are hyped it’s the opposite.
How lol. They always choke.
That’s true
Easy to perform above expectations, when you're the laughing stock of sports and no one expects anything of you.
@@URRidikalus That laughing stock of sports title belongs to both Pittsburgh and Carolina at this point. So what are you even talking about
@6r3ys0n Pittsburgh has 6 super bowls and carolina has at least been to a few so what are you even talking about?
I gotta say your production value is pretty awesome, and I like your outlook and optimism!
thanks my dude, always trying to raise the bar, much more to come!
Would love to see you and Quincy Carrier do a few episodes together.
You have some solid insights JR.
That would be fun for sure! Maybe it will happen sometime down the line - much appreciated my man!
@@optimisticfanclubseriously I think it would really help you become more well known! I love your vids and Q has a ton of subscribers!
I gotta agree. It's so refreshing seeing people do really good analysis. I don't want to hear people making up bullshit. Arguments or predicting what will happen with somebody's record. I just want to learn about the team and you're doing a great job of it.
Solid video man. From the visual and audio to the insight and analysis. Subbed for sure. CLE
Will be awesome to see Hall go against Zinter. The rivalry will carry on
appreciate that!! thanks for watching and much more to come!
17-0 is on the board.
yes sir! thanks for watching!
Best analysis I've seen on the Brown's draft so far. Well done sir. Looking forward to more content from you
Thanks so much for watching, much more to come!
The media are all paid off to shit on the Browns no matter how much worse other teams are. The only true souls are the people from this town like Joey.
True; its the only reason Watsons contract is still brought up nationally, when he's not even the highest guarantee anymore
JUST LOOK AT THAT CAVS CELTICS SERIES I MEAN THEY HATE CLEVELAND
GO BROWNS, thanks for watching my man
Just wait until they start winning, the media will jump right on the nutsack. Look at the Lions.
That’s because the Browns always prove the haters right lol.
I’m exciting about this year’s draft, based on what I’ve seen and heard here! I love underdogs and good work ethic. That has been the basis of every good Browns team. I’ve began watching the Browns, since Jim Brown’s rookie season, when I was two. lol I remember him pushing Wooten and Hickerson into blocks, like a hot rod e re acre shifting gears. I remember Warfield catching and running with panache. I remember Frank Ryan and Gary Collins beating the Baltimore Colts, while the “sorry” D blanked the premier QB/WR duo.
First video I watched of yours. Well done. Subscribed
appreciate that dude! thanks for watching!
Love the analysis!
thanks so much!
You got a lot of potential dude keep grinding dont take short cuts it will pay off.
appreciate that my man, thank you for watching!
First time watcher. Excellent video. Will be coming back.
appreciate that!! New video dropped a few days ago about the Browns record prediction, check it out!
Coming from a lions fan. I hope the browns are good this year. 2 franchises where the fans have been starving for a winner for a extremely long time.
it's a new world! thanks for watching!
Thanks Terry! We love the Lions too!
Man it's surreal to see Lions playing at a very very high level..plus nice draft..you have the perfect coach for that team.i love when he said.I want players just like me.But with talent..this year if he takes the points put in front of him.instead of some crazy moves..the Lions will really Roar
I swear your assessment on this year's draft is identical to what I think. People are crazy saying we didn't have a great draft with what we had to work with. We have three pics that are going to push for starting position their first year and if they don't start their play when they do get time is going to force the coaching staff to put them on the field more in my opinion. Hall , Watson, and thrash are all steels of this draft. I love watching that linebacker! I think he's going to end up starting by first five or six games. He played in the toughest conference in the country and filled up the stat sheets. He's big and physical and moves well for somebody his size. I'm a big Notre Dame fan and that kid thrash impressed the hell out of me. Steve Smith had a lot of great things to say about him as well. And we got a future starter on the offensive line as well. How can you go wrong?
Love your vids we need some browns parlays this szn. All this knowledge on the team can go a long way especially when their undervalued by the world lol
appreciate that man, definitely will be throwing those in in game previews this year!!
This was such an excellent video. The video quality, your takes and how well spoken you are led to me subscribing. This was my 1st video for u btw, but I know that I'll watch many more. Great job!
really appreciate the kind words, much more to come!
just popped up on my feed. 21 minutes is a little long, but i noticed all the edited parts and thought what the hell. very concise on what you where putting across. could have a little more explanation on the video, but i don´t know the copyright laws. I will subscribe. Thanks.
appreciate the feedback thanks for watching!
3:25 Hall has actually been in the news quite a bit lately
Oh really???
@@optimisticfanclub
Yes. Really
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I love the narrative Joey, Ohio vs Everybody. Can’t wait for 2024
I love the show. I agree with the Browns draft picks I am incredibly excited like I am every year!
Thanks so much! and for sure, a lot to be excited about!
This is a great & informative show! Keep up the great work 👏🏿👏🏿
Thank you for watching!
Love your Browns coverage! Thanks for the Knowledge and insites! If the Browns stay healthy no telling how far we can go!! GO BROWNS!
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thanks for watching!!
Solid vid! 🔥 Go Browns!
Thanks bro!
Aidian Robbins may well become the feature back.
He very well could be future back..my gosh if Chubb is even 75 percent..we have some Bruisers toting that rock
I love this class. AB is the man. He has done a tremendous job with the lack of picks. Next year is gonna be a blast! lol can’t wait.
Love the vids man, keep up the amazing work you do and the positivity you bring when talking Browns ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
yes sir! much more to come, thanks for all the support!
Absolutely loved your analysis. One of the best Ive heard. Seriously 👍
Very well done and insightful! Thx!
thank you for watching!
I enjoyed your analysis. Go Browns!
appreciate it thanks for watching!
You have a good pulse on the browns and their picks. Hall not being a 3 down DT and his ability to disappear in some of OSU's games is, in my opinion, what kept him out of the first round. Hall's twitch and pass rush is perfect for Jim Schwartz's defense in a rotation-based system and he adds youth to an aging interior. Zinter's injury and his negatives caused him to slip to the 3rd round, but he's first round ability ceiling. Zinter also was a captain on the team and a lifeblood of their O line. Thrash fits the new Deshaun/Dorsey spread/west coast/RPO offense and Thrash's YAC was very attractive to Berry. I hope Thrash out plays Tillman and Bell early and earns some early reps. Thrash's intelligence gives him a big edge over Tillman and Thrash's route running abilities should push him past bell. If any of the other guys even earn backup or special teams rolls it's a win. Berry goes big school, big talent ceiling in early picks and the later round picks is where he gets into smaller school players and special team with an upside to earn roles, type of players.
appreciate that, and I agree. Tillman will have to take a pretty significant leap to stave off Thrash, either way, it's a tide that will raise all ships
Considering what they had to work with I thought at the time that they couldn't have done better than they did and gave them an A-. Drafting a DT and OL was something that probably should have been done last year but these are two really good choices for the reasons you mentioned. I was particularly encouraged by taking Thrash who will add a needed speed element in stretching the field hopefully. The Browns roster doesn't have any real holes in it but each of these picks has the potential to make the team. I don't think I've ever seen that before. Because this lineup is LOADED. And if they're able to improve upon that then you have to consider this draf a MAJOR success if even half of these guy makes the team or practice squad.
Nice video. For months, I've said Thornhill blew the SEA game! Thank goodness somebody finally brought it up!
Great analysis
appreciate it man!
I heard alot of excitement on radio when Thrash was getting the ball this last preseason game. Very interesting indeed.
I give this video an A+.
The media dumps on the browns no matter what. Just wait who jumps on the band wagon when they realize the Browns are for real. Remember, this is the same media that glorifies "swifties" and all that girlie man drama.
BROWNS '24!!!!
Thanks Joe!
Appreciate the support as always my man!
@@optimisticfanclub Of course. We need positivity more than ever these days.
Yes him and Quincy would be fire
I love this dude.Quincy is the man .this dude my no 2
You hit the nail on the head about you D Watson take!
yes sir, thanks for watching!
Great job. Wholeheartedly agree. 💯
This is one of the better drafts I think we've had in a long time. We got quality depth with players that are going to see significant playing time in their first year. They also have the ability to be future starters for a very long time. How can you go wrong with that?
As a student currently attending USD and does sports media and watched Myles Harden play every snap last year he will be an absolute amazing pickup for the Browns as he never gets beat by the offense he just knows the game and how to play the way he plays!!!!
P.S. this is coming from a Cowboys fan that isn’t interested in the browns 😂
Nice video. 😎 Let's Go Browns!
Thanks so much for watching!
Hope to see more browns videos!
They'll be back weekly! stay tuned
The way you explain it I believe if given a chance all of them will make the browns even better.
Hall not having off field issues like Winfrey aged super poorly
As a Seahawks fan I agree
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People also forget that we lost Chubb too… losing your starting QB AND the second best back in the league at a time where you could not find a meaningful upgrade is devastating to an offense
Even if Chubb doesn’t come back (which he will at some point this year).
Adding a quality back like Donta Foreman is huge… Jerome Ford having an offseason to prepare for the bulk of carries is huge
Also this team is far more prepared at QB in the event Watson gets hurt… Jameis and Huntley are far better and more experienced than DTR
Your take on Thrash is delusional. I respect that.
We here for it. Go browns
go Brownies, thanks for watching!
As a steeler fan this browns draft has scary potential esp with the lack of picks think they nailed the ones they had. As far as national media the only person more ridiculous then cowherd is nick Wright
To the Steelers fan..Thank you..and to my Chagrin you all stole Fields..I don't like Fields just because he was a buckeye..I like him because he's going to be very good.hes a class act also
i’m gonna catch some heat for saying this from the haters, but Hall reminds me an awful lot like another undersized DT that was drafted out of pittsburgh some years ago
Watson has a lot of pressure this season.
without a doubt!
We drafted zero year one starters. Two guys that maybe, hopefully, can start at some point in the next few years.
If that is crushing it then what is not crushing it? Gotta stay grounded my man.
Michael Hall Jr will get as many reps as any other tackle who was drafted this year, Jamari Thrash will be WR3 - the Browns didn’t need vast improvements, they needed to draft to stay relevant for years to come
@@optimisticfanclubThen I ask again, what would not be crushing it?
Edit. The is the first video I've seen from you. I just want to get a feel for how realistic you are. Most browns content is in outer space right now.
Found the video entertaining. The Thrash take is pretty wild. Lol. If it comes to pass I'll be glued to the channel.
The fact that the Browns didn't draft any year-one starters says more about the strength of the roster they already have than anything else.
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Agreed. 2024 was a depth draft. 4 from this class will be starters in 26
I was also thinking we would draft a TE2...Michael Hall was a good pick I was hoping we would also pick up Cade Stover, but a good guard is never a bad thing.
Louisville fan here. Thrash is the real deal.
stamp of approval! thanks for watching!
I think its important to note Michael Hall Jr. is another local Cleveland kid like Hunt and Ward
I think Michael Hall Jr is going to come in and contribute right away. you are right the sports media has dumped on the Browns for years and it's their yearly ritual to do it but they're going to eat crow this year
I believe that! thanks for watching!
@@optimisticfanclub you're welcome and thank you for such a well-produced video
If Watson plays like the 20th best QB in the NFL, the Browns are super bow contenders. That’s how loaded the rest of the roster is
Stop! You’re not a loaded roster. I really wish Browns fans stop overhyping their team. You got dogwalked by a young Texans team. Where was all that loaded roster???
@@ManofSteel216OCthey absolutely do have a loaded roster dummy Flacco lost them that game, plain and simple they were also missing over 39% of their payroll to injury if flacco doesn’t throw back to back p6s that game ends a bit differently
watson played much better than most give him credit for plus, have to remember he had only played 6 games prior to this season he was always gonna need at least half a season to get back into form that’s about where he was when they played tennessee and from that game on, he was really good those last 3 games before going down with that injury, he had a rating of around 104 which woulda been good for 3rd best in the nfl had he kept that pace and didn’t get hurt
@@madisenkline2351you were losing that game without the pick 6s. Texans toyed with you.
Deshaun Watson is coming to play. Just ask the Ravens they know what to say. Deshaun beat them with one arm and foot. The media and haters were afraid to look. Deshaun is back, and ya'll will see the G.O.A.T will make HISTORY.
In fairness some of the media were grading on total haul…….how was the Browns first round pick?
They will be in playoffs again
it worried about Henry in baltimore Browns owned Henry last yr held him to what, 12 yards?
That was a very bad Titans team, Henry will be a lot more productive behind a good oline with a great dual threat QB when he can't be keyed in on every play
The media was right. Browns need to string together two winning seasons before they're taken seriously.
Best move of all was Vrabel. Only if Shitstainski takes some advice. Because if he doesn't, and they're not a successful team this season, Vrabel could snatch that HC job.
Imagine making adjustments during the Game. 👀
I disagree with someone saying none of them are first year starters..Hall is the Bruiser from up north is.Watson is.Thrash omg..and that undrafted bowling ball at running back..i see first year starters .and one hell of special teams
I gotta imagine if you're short on picks the reason why you were short on picks is going to have an impact on how others perceive your draft. These drafts were always going to have the Watson stink on them.
While Im not as high on Thrash as you (woulda preferred Isaiah Williams or Ryan Flournoy), i do think his YAC ability does fit a need for the team. So cant hate on it
He spoke the gospel I caught the holy ghost
Luv the new studio. New hair isn’t so bad either :$ 😈👄
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$200 that Micheal hall jr is the next Aaron Donald
if only we knew... lol
Trash would be a nice story but hard to say he will even get playing time this year. Jeudy is the clear #1 they want. Depends if they reach a new deal with Cooper (probably short extension) He's competing with Bell for a roster spot. Jury still out on Tillman. He's looked good in camp and I think he could have himself a nice role this year. Idk what to make of Moore. The way they use him, his role is easily replaceable. Trash could take his role. Either way I expect the Browns to draft another wr early next year to fill a potential void of losing Moore and Cooper.
I actually liked this draft alot because they took solid football players. Hall being an upside gamble (either be a top DT or a pass rush specialist only) The final 3 picks were all solid football players that play hard. I think they all find a way to make the 53. The DT from Cinnci seems like he was overlooked in this class and Browns will need big powerful guys up front. I wouldnt be shocked if Hurst didnt make the roster to keep him because I doubt he clears waivers.
Weird draft, could be great players at their positions
We’ll see in January
Still never understand why we kept David Bell over Watkins Watkins, and DTR literally tore up preseason last year, and we let him walk!
Because it's preseason... it literally means nothing
Apparently the media has been "wrong" about the Browns every year 😂
3 out of 20 years yes
ESPN has just become unwatchable at this point…
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Sounds accurate to me we are not going to be good until we get rid of Cosby.
Did you just predict off field issues? Winfrey had none pre-draft but once these kids get money it can alter their mindset.
Wasn’t Bell supposed to be a more polished player? He hasn’t seemed to do much.
I'd say from the standpoint of knowing where he needs to be and executing when his name has been called, he has done very well.
I think the issue with Bell purely comes to the physical - his frame is a lot smaller than most people realized, and this limits how much playing time he gets because of the Browns approach to the run game.
Overall, Bell is a very good backup/WR4 and that's valuable in its own right
The jury isn't out on him, but I do think Thrash is the perfect balance between route running, mental ability, and size. He's more of a Diggs/Antonio Brown body type which he'll be able to fill out eventually.
Don't forget his huge TD vs Jacksonville!!
Thanks for watching
I think Bell is gone
Where are u from? can't place your accent but doesnt sound like cleveland lol
You'd never be able to guess!
Remember when they said we would be last place last year and then we put Cincinnati and Pittsburgh where they belong?
That was one season you’ve been in last place how many years in a row. Burrow was out so I wouldn’t gloat about that.
@@ManofSteel216OC Clownshow lol. Bengals 2010-last place, 2011 #3, 2016-#3, 2017-#3, 2018-last place, 2019-last place, 2020-last place, 2023-last place...not sure I'd gloat that record too much there chief. You had 2 good years. And your trophy case is still empty.
@@ManofSteel216OC Burrow played 10 games. Watson played 5. Cinci also wasn't missing their best three OTs.
We invented football in northeast ohio. The browns were sold as super bowl contender with bellicheck and Ozzie the browns wouldve been dynasty. The jags and panthers got good so fast the owners were pissed therefore when the browns returned in 99 the owners screwed them cuz the protected all the goid players unlike the jags and titans the nfl made sure they srt the browns 30 years back.
More Brandon Jacobs than Derrick Henry
IDK if thrash even makes the team. I'm not saying he's not good even if he makes the team he's not gonna see the field much
Maybe it`s just my ancient eyes coach, but I could use a woe up on the reins with your in depth film study lol... I wouldn`t sweat the NYC espy girls table gossip, they`ve their girls to pasify in Tejas so let`m go do their qvc thing, I`d rather get the Madden 70s Raider treatment and they were always hanging around at the end beat`n on the lil lady teams until they took their dolls and went home...I`ve been spying the other camps and they got some serious holes to fill and rooks get a lot of stares like the freshman girls did by us seniors in HS, but we always new it was the usual suspects that were the Raquel Welch..keep on rockin Joey and giddyup
These idiots are only concerned with 1st round choices.
Comparing Michael Hall, Jr to Aaron Donald. So, he'll manhandle triple teams?
I'm drawing a comparison to their skillsets, size, and their pre-draft evaluations, I'm not implying that he'll wind up becoming like Aaron Donald. Donald is one of the greatest defensive players of all time, however, his pre-draft evaluations had him as an average starter.
Cowherd always shitting on us! So old! Guy is suspect.
The medias Cleveland hate is real. Always has been. This team won 11 games with all the injuries they had. Our defense is ELITE. This draft was far from D- quality. The Browns are better then Pittsburgh. They're trotting out Russel Wilson and)or Justin Fields at QB. Joe Burrow struggles against Cleveland. No last place finish for this team. We'll have the last laugh
That a high grade I think still I gave them a B- to C+ I really like all the picks tho I thought it was a great draft and your better at this job then those bozo clowns
lazy cleveland narrative has always been a thing. back when the cavs beat the warriors.. it was about how the warriors lost more than about cleveland winning. then of course.. the warriors signed durant and everybody forgot the cavs even won.
Collin cow herd is just a cleveland hater
I hatedSteve Smith when we played him..but that man does not just say nice things about many receivers..to me what he says.is the truth..Baldinger also .man gave his all he knows talent..Berry did very well..these younguns will push others.f-- Nick wright all of Espn.i love when they say we will be last..im very serious if Somehow they could just get Will to stay on his man..4 will ball.he has to have Will play better..Thrash is the real deal.i love Hall.and that road grater from up north will look good next to conklin or our monster from Ohio State..with Hall putting up pressure in middle..quarterbacks will be running right into our outstanding Ends..its ok Watson isnt that fadt in middle..he just needs to hold runner up .or re route him to joker
Colin cowherd thinking the browns can’t compete definitely means they will do great. His takes are always terribly wrong
Colon Cowturd is always great
Good god u r handsome.
u r
Dude you're reaching here 😂.. people counting out the Browns cause so far it looks like Watson happy to take the money and run. if He plays football again they are legit but thats a giant "IF"
🤨 Why wouldn’t he play football again?? He literally BROKE HIS SHOULDER. You think he’s getting injured on purpose and is purposely avoiding playing??? Such a RIDICULOUS take…
"Considering that they didn't have a high pick" 😂. THEY are the reason THEY didn't have a high pick the last THREE years!
No shit captain obvious
Well scratch mike hall of that list.....
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I’m a browns fan and even I think they had one of the worst draft in the last few years, not all management fault we just didn’t have a lot of picks and we had lots of small holes to fill.