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Trey Lance must be insanely grateful for Zach Wilson because he took all the attention away from Lance being arguably one of the biggest busts of all time. Update: 5 interceptions in one preseason game, 3 first round picks burned in the incinerator 😟
Trey is definitely a bust but it really hasn't affected the Niners all that much. They're still one of the best teams in the league and will be for many years in the future. Zach Wilson being the next Ryan Leaf/JaMarcus Russell is the main reason why a Jets team with a Super Bowl caliber defense hasn't even sniffed the playoffs in 3 years.
I don't know about grateful, dude got paid $30M to deal with a broken finger and a broken ankle, now gets to happily ride the bench to earn some cash without being in harms way, if he can get past the broken ego he'll be just fine. The question is whether the Cowboys keep him around, he's going to cost them 5.3M to be a backup? Ouch.
I was on the AR train if his combine wasnt ridiculous, but I also underestimated the readiness of the roster. I thought this year would be the one, not last year. Campbell/Holmes are a special duo and as a Packers fan, I hate that they stuck with him after the 1-8 or whatever it was start
@@TheDieseI Thanks. This team is special and it is really cool to see how energized my area is with Lions hype. As long as I've been alive the Lions have been a punching bag, but now people are openly wearing Lions paraphernalia, we've had billboards stating pro-Lions quotes and the entire atmosphere has changed. It really feels like the team has exorcised some of its demons and resolved the defeatist attitude of the fan base. Old Lions absolutely would have fired Campbell that quickly. It just feels like something new and competent is in the air. I'm not sure if we'll win it all, but the fact that we are in a legitimate position to do that is a fantastic feeling. The Cowboys fans may be mocked, but "This is our year!" Is a much healthier fan attitude than "We are doomed and going to blow it".
@@AlexRosner-v8tonly at the college level. He was out of his element in the NFL. Outside stuff does have an impact on coaching because you have a responsibility to make sure the young players are staying disciplined in their life choices and activities. Their phone will blow up if one player gets in trouble. And Meyers’s off field choice to stay in Cincinnati instead of flying back to Jacksonville on the team’s chartered plane is a sign he wasn’t committed.
@@AlexRosner-v8t Lol Lawrence looked like a bust in 2021 because of Urban. Pederson shows up and immediately Lawrence looks more like the QB he was expected to be.
Honestly, Trey Lance was underwhelming but still, it doesn't even feel like he got that much of a shot. he got like one or two chances the he got hurt & Purdy happened & they just automatically gave up on him 🤷🏾♂️
@@JackCallSportsagain you make good points but still though you can't really know exactly what someone is going to be about if you don't give them a real chance plus not every quarterback is just going to come firing out of the gate immediately some people develop longer than others
@@IbelikemjSometimes prospects can just be better. Herbert was hyped up after his freshman year, Burrow dominated his final year, and Tua became big after the title game. Lawerence and to a less of an extent Fields were the only 2 that were hyped up on their actual college careers and not just picked high on speculative traits like Lance.
Saying Fields is a social media qb absolutely nailed it. His fans would salivate over his highlights, but outside of those couple plays per game he looked so lost in Chicago.
It was more bad games and good games with Fields. When he was on, he was great. When he wasn't, it showed. Defense giving up 30 a game didn't help the offense much either. The Bears were honestly just a horrible team all around for 2 and a half out of his 3 seasons.
I remember seeing a highlight reel before a Sunday Night game that was all Justin Fields highlights. Three dazzling plays against the 49ers. It was days later before I found out the Bears lost by multiple scores.
@@voiceofreason2674God, that's a depressing list. Trubisky's highs still top Justin. Better numbers, helped Chicago to 12 wins, once. Also had some highlight plays, even some good games. I'm a Justin Fields stan, but unless he is allowed to sit and develop along with the rest of Pittsburgh's young players, he isn't going to progress.
2020 vs 2021 is so juxtaposed. 2020 will go down as one of the greatest QB drafts of all time Burrow - resigned by Cincy, Super Bowl appearance, Pro Bowl Tua Tagovailoa - resigned by Miami, Pro Bowl, Passing Yards Leader Justin Herbert - resigned by LAC, Pro Bowl Jordan Love - resigned by Green Bay, won a playoff game in his starting year Jalen Hurts - resigned by Philadelphia, made a Super Bowl appearance, Pro Bowl And then 2021 Trevor Lawrence - resigned by Jacksonville, won a playoff game, Pro Bowl Zach Wilson - traded to Denver Trey Lance - traded to Dallas Justin Fields - traded to Pittsburgh Mac Jones - Pro Bowl, traded to Jacksonville (his rookie year will forever allude us)
@@mythrapi73 With the QB's mentioned... there's not really a bad period here. Jordan Love managed to pull some weight, as did Tua. On the topic of being overrated, I think it's too early to tell. We'll see on the incoming Sundays.
2022: Kenny Pickett - traded to Pittsburgh Desmond Ridder - traded to Arizona Malik Willis - backup QB Matt Corral - traded to New England, then Birmingham (UFL) (Edit: emergency QB in Minnesota due to JJ missing his rookie season to knee injury) Bailey Zappe - backup QB Sam Howell - traded to Seattle Chris Oladokun - traded to Kansas City, played zero games Skylar Thompson - backup QB Brock Purdy - who else but Purdy?
They have 1 superbowl and 2 nfc championships the past 25 years while having 2 top five QBs ever while they were in their primes. They’re massively overrated sadly
@@itsmezach8307Not defending Zach Wilson at all. He hasn’t panned out and certainly has held the team back. Just saying 1996 is under mentioned here when we talk about bad qb drafts
I feel like the class of 2021 is a pretty big indicator that coaching really DOES matter to a QBs development. Urban Meyer nearly permanently ruined Trevor Lawrence’s career and Bill Belicheck DID ruin Mac Jones’s career. Although, Wilson and Lance would have prob stayed trash even with good coaching.
BB ruined Jones?? STFU plz with that horseshit.... BB gave the guy a top 5 defense and run game that avg over 125 ypg his rookie year and he couldn't even progress. Wanna blame coach pencil? Bcuz he's a DC right? Wrong. He was Brady's OC (assistant) in the first SB run and Zappe didn't have issues winning games with the DC as OC. Sounds like you were one of the brain dead fans who wanted Jones and didn't like what you got in return bcuz he's JAG. Learn football....
Thanks for actually covering Lance's story properly. I get annoyed when people call him a bust because the fact is he was never given a chance. 4 games that was all, and they weren't really fully games. Shanahan also didn't want him originally and didn't like him. The GM wanted Lance, not him. So once Purdy came around and fit Shanahan system, how he wanted better and was cheap enough to make up for the draft capital loss. Lance was out the door. Any other player would of gotten more time to develop and actually prove their worth. Lance didn't get that and was never given an opportunity to really prove it. He's not a bust. Also, wtf was San Fran thinking when they drafted him on a team that was built to win now. Should of just traded for a starting QB with that capital.
Agree every other qb from the 2021 draft class gets excuses despite playing way more games than lance and still showing nothing but Trey after 4 games played is somehow the biggest bust out of them all
@kirtpunchesthings Well they did have the 3rd pick in 2017 an chose…. Soloman Thomas!! Not like there was some generational talent at QB or anything Dallas fan who is enjoying watching 9ers lose to KC twice in SBs
they would of won a superbowl with Lance if they had kept him especially his rookie season when the Niners almost won it all with how awful jimmy g played in the regular season and postseason
Trey Lance getting the best return from his trade is *hilarious.* It's good proof that it's "better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
I don't think we'll ever see the QB class of '07 "topped". It's not just the fact that *none* of the 11 QBs drafted developed into even mid-term starters, it's also the amount of talent that was available at other positions in that draft. Four Hall of Famers already from that first round.
@@Harv72bHow does 07 compare to 1996 in your book? Since you’re a Ravens fan, you may have saw the best quarterback in that class: Tony Banks. Other than him, only three other players threw as many as ten passes in an NFL game at all.
Hot Take: I'm a New England Patriots fan and Mac Jones didn't fail in New England because of the Switch to Matt Patricia and Joe Judge as offensive coordinator in 2022. Mac Jones confidence actually died in a game the Patriots won, On December 6th 2021 the PATS beat the Bills 14-10 in a game where Mac Jones threw only 3 times. That was dud to wind gusts of 55 miles per hour happening in Buffalo during that game. Mac lost his confidence when the media made jokes about the Patriots not needing a quarterback. On December 6th 2021 after that win, The Patriots were the Number 1 seed in the AFC. They finished the season going 1-4 and Mac Jones having a 79 Passer rating. That's where he lost his confidence. Then in 2022 and 2023 it was exposed that he had little arm strength and athleticism. Bill and The Patriots did things to hamper Mac Jones, However his lack of arm strength, weak mentality and lack of athleticism is the reason why he became a bust. The Patriots also didn't account for the fact that Mac Jones looked so great at Alabama because he had elite talent around him, Mac Jones struggled when faced with any adversity. The Patriots drafted him at 15 after Patriots guaranteed $163 million in unrestricted free agency in 2021. Belichick put him in a decent situation on day 1. Much better than what Drake Maye is doing currently. I believe Maye will succeed over Mac Jones because he has the Arm strength and athleticism needed to become an elite QB in 2020s NFL.
Worst part is idk how his confidence got destroyed so bad I get he had a dc as an oc but they won 8 games and 4 of the losses were by 1 score or less then he gets an actual oc and falls apart
That comment about Fields being the true social media QB was spot on 😂. Dude has a few highlight plays every week but his performance as a whole is subpar. I hope the Steelers can help him right the ship he still has a ton of potential.
Honestly this entire draft class is a prime example of the problem with this "Teams live & die by the quarterback" mentality fans and teams alike have now
Aye. Brock Purdy is a pretty good example of this, honestly: He’s not an exceptional talent, though hardly unskilled either. Moderate floor, fairly low ceiling all told… but the 49ers surrounded him with amazing players at basically every position. He didn’t suffer injury after injury, he was well coached (…setting aside questionable tactical decisions in the Super Bowl), he wasn’t getting sacked ten times a game. He had the support needed to develop. I really do wonder what Lance might’ve turned into if he’d not been injured in his first non-Monsoon game as a starter…
This is a philosophy that Teams really need to unlearn. These bottom of the basement teams think drafting a first round QB fixes everything. It doesn't and the fact that everyone hasn't looked at the Browns and learned that is astounding to me.
@@AlonsoRules Yes the QB is a main focal point but one of the problem is just the over-reliance like for example when a team does good who gets most of the credit? The QB & when a team screws up who gets most of the blame? the QB even if it wasn't their faults I'm just saying everyone should get their credit and accountability instead of it all just mostly going to one person
As a Wyoming fan, it gives me immense pleasure to see BYU's latest golden boy QB falter in the pros. We may be so pathetic that they don't even see it as a rivalry in any sport at this point, but that just makes it all the more important to revel in the small victories.
@@kooperuranus1503 What a small world! I lived in Laramie for a few years myself. And personally, I'm just hoping we can have a winning season now that Bohl's retired. The Pokes don't have a good track record of replacing a good coach with another good one lol. I'd also hope the Cougars are good this year, it wouldn't be any fun if we managed to give BYU a scare if they aren't any good.
If they ever win a Super Bowl, they should build a statue of him & Lovie Smith like what the Eagles did with Foles & Pedersen. That game may have saved their franchise
Bucs fan here, the Trask pick was not a bad one for us, it was a developmental pick, and it turns out he is a backup QB which is not a bust, we also didn't spend any real draft capital on him by comparison. We never really expected him to become a franchise QB, we were excited to see if he was capable after learning under Brady, but most of us knew he was going to be a QB2 at best, which is why we were speculating about other franchise QB options so much the year before Brady retired.
The only problem was that it was a 2nd round pick that could have been used to shore up the defense. Hindsight is 20/20 cause we didn't know Devin White was gonna suck after that super bowl run. If Trask was still available after the 5th round then it would have made sense.
All true, but we didn't know or plan that we would get Baker, and that Baker would actually turn out alright.. Keep Trask as a capable backup, at least for a while.
@@markdouglas9182 We had no clue who our next QB1 was going to be, there was speculation all over the place from Deshawn Watson (shudder), Jimmy Garoppolo, and even Aaron Rodgers.
and the Niners gave up three first rounders for him? wtf were they thinking and how many heads if any rolled as a result of it. More ironically is how lucky they were with Mr Irrelevence..the nfl draft,,,,so unpredictable
I was listening to espn radio today. They were talking about Drake Maye and said he only had 2 years of playing in college and didn't start playing football until his senior year of HS. This is not a knock on Maye. I just think it's wild that these guys show anything for 1 or 2 years and everyone starts telling them their the savior. Make it make sense
I think this goes to show while talent is definitely a factor in the success or failure of a QB class, it's also heavily dependent on the situations they walk into (coaching + team around them + support from GMs)
Even now, pundits are still discrediting Purdy... the scouts and front offices seem to have a series of measureables that the ideal QB must have, and if he doesn't have them, then he can't be The Guy. Front offices are going to continue to look for tall guys with cannon arms no matter what
2013 was pretty bad for most positions; it says a lot that the first overall pick was an offensive tackle. EJ Manuel is such a throwback, I remember whooping the Bills' ass with the All-25 team in Madden that year. Pretty sure the score was 73-24 or something like that
It's hard to get truly mad at San Fran for the Trey Lance deal. No one could have predicted Purdy was the real answer, and if Purdy didn't pan out to being the franchise guy after his own playoff injury Lance would probably still have a starting job. The lost draft picks hurt but at the time it was seen as the highest upside option. You just can't predict injury and bad luck, unfortunately.
Nonsense. They traded a fortune for someone who had only been a starter for a single fucking year, instead of someone with proven experience like, Mac jones.
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Of course the fortune traded sucks, there's really no denying that. Trey was just seen as the easiest person for Shanahan to mold into his ideal QB at the time. Maybe the whole narrative changes if Trey makes good, productive starts in Dallas after a Dak injury or holdout. Maybe this does become the major black eye on the Niners legacy if they fail to win in the next two seasons and have to do a tear-down due to cap constraints. Either way, we still have time for this to change.
@@anxiousorcus5489 No, no matter what happens, the Lance pick was fucking awful. The 49ers traded a metric shitload of draft capital to get: ~Someone who was only rarely a starter and wasn't great as one ~a single 4th round pick. Even if Malik Mustapha (said fourth round pick) turns out to be really good for you, you legitimately cannot call that anything but a bust. That is absolutely fucking horrible draft value.
I think the NFL has a value problem. At some point quarterbacks will become so highly rated that depth and quality play will be sacrificed for raw potential from a qb. As a result, many MANY teams are desperately sacrificing top spot selections for 2nd round-3rd round qb prospects. Money is also a factor.
*At some point quarterbacks will become so highly rated that depth and quality play will be sacrificed for raw potential from a qb* Considering the scenario exposed by Tree, I would say it's already happening. Or at least is ingrained in the minds of many. I'll quote a Lions fan from another comment, they said for them to pick a QB to replace Goff, thye picked Penei Sewell and it's paying off well I would say. Goff is not the second coming, but he is average or slightly above and the rest of the team is doing really well
@@otaviofrnazarioYes this is exactly what I see too. You don’t need a superstar quarterback to win. It helps, any NFL team would gladly take one, but if the rest of the team are balanced and well trained, the quarterback position isn’t the be all end all.
@@otaviofrnazario My dad always believed that Jared Goff just needed to get out of LA and start fresh with another team. Detroit has given him that opportunity, and my dad was proven right. Same deal with Baker Mayfield after he was screwed over by Cleveland, Tampa Bay gave Baker the chance he needed.
@@TheFranchiseCARyan Fitzpatrick had probably the best season of his career with the Jets in 2015. After that they were like "We don't need you," and tried replacing him by drafting Christian Hackenberg, Sam Darnold, and Zach Wilson. Jets gonna Jet.
@@dfp_01 His best season in several statistical categories, including touchdowns, yards, and wins. It's totally reasonable to argue that's his best season, and if it's not, it's close. Then the Jets QB curse caught up for 2016.
Hey Tree, Good video as usual. But you did make a minor error. Mac Jones’ OC at Alabama was Steve Sarkisian. Bill O’Brien became OC after Sarkisian left for Texas. Jones also went to the NFL the same year. Good video still. Keep it up.
I will never understand how you give an unproven qb 250 mil. The last 6 sb winners were pat mahomes, Matt stafford, and Tom Brady. And they aren’t even in the top 10 highest paid
One thing that has to really sting for those teams that took a QB that year is just how damn good the 2021 draft class was. Penei Sewell, Micah Parsons, Jamarr Chase, Jaylen Waddle, Pat Surtain, Rashawn Slater. And the list doesn't end there. Gonna go down as one of the best draft classes in history, but bogged down by the QBs
In fairness to Kyle Trask, man's only started for two full seasons in his life, and his senior year as a Gator was solid, despite Dan Mullens. And Baker had a solid year last season, arguably better than Tom Brady's last season. I understand why people have given up on him already, but I haven't. Brock Purdy was meant to be a disposable third stringer. Now look at him.
In a week 3 update from the 24-25 season, Justin Fields is starting in lieu of an injured Russell Wilson, and he looks good! He’s not perfect at all, but he’s showing his talent as a rushing QB with a more talented o-line.
Out of every QB in this class, Trevor Lawrence is obviously tiers above everyone else (and just think about if he was on a competent team...) but I do believe that Fields is going to bounce back and improve now that he is with the Steelers. As a Ravens fan, I am much more worried about Fields than Russ, and if Fields does improve, he is only 25 years old, so he could be a thorn in the Ravens side for a very long time.
Adding to the hilarity is the fact that Jacksonville not only drafted Lawrence from that class, but they also got Jones from the same class on their team now. Amazing how life turns out sometimes lol. And yes, I use Upside, it's not bad getting some money as cashback at places!
Kyle and Lynch probably bow down to Purdy everytime he walks in the locker room. Any other GM and/or coach executes the Trey Lance trade and have it played out the way it did would be ex-communicated from the league for years. It's a miracle how Mr. Irrelevant potentially saved an entire franchise from getting blown up
Assuming the 49ers were comfortable rolling the dice like they did, they had to be comfortable knowing they could roll double 1s. Still like the process, even if the result sucked.
Man, as a Bears fan I always felt bad for Fields. That guy was a really dedicated player and an extremely good athlete who had an amazing ceiling. But the Bears, being the Bears, instituted a system where his weaknesses were exaggerated and his strengths mostly hidden. Nagy and Getsy had no idea what to do with him. And you could see in his last few games with Chicago he did step up and had great flashes, but a first round pick QB is a hard thing to pass up and Fields just couldn’t make the cut.
I'm going to drop this reddit post i saw years ago here... "Prediction time before the season begins: The 2021 QB rookie class will be the greatest of all time. Here are my ballpark estimates for the careers of the top five QBs. Trevor Lawrence: 1-2 MVPs, will accumulate really good numbers, but I don't know about him getting to a Super Bowl. Think of an Andrew Luck career if Luck never got injured. Zach Wilson: Really solid franchise quarterback for years to come. He'll keep the Jets relevant. I'll say 1 MVP and 1 Super Bowl appearance if Saleh can keep them going in the right direction. Comparable career to Matt Ryan. Trey Lance: Will have the best career of the top 5 QBs. At least 2-3 MVPs, and I'll say 3+ Super Bowl appearances with 2 rings. Comparable to 2001-2010 Tom Brady. Justin Fields: Will be the Bears first true franchise QB. 1-2 MVPs, and I think he'll win the Bears a Super Bowl. Similar career to Aaron Rodgers. Mac Jones: If Belichick stays for the long run, which I think he will, I think he takes OROY, 1 MVP and 2 Super Bowl wins. Won't have the best stats but Belichick will build him up with his exceptional schemes. Similar career to Troy Aikman. At least three of these guys will be in Canton one day. Now go ahead and laugh at me and we'll all check back here in 20 years." WOW, JUST WOW 😂
Ryan Leaf 🤝JaMarcus Russell🤝Zach Wilson There's plenty of high drafted QBs that don't meet expectations but these are the guys where I wonder "How did you ever end up on an NFL field in the first place?" All had notoriously bad attitudes and maturity issues on top of it.
John Lynch should count his lucky stars his late round draft picks panned out (See Kittle, Warner, and Purdy). Between Lance and Solomon Thomas any other GM woulda got fired for those swing and a miss first round selections.
Have you seen his attitude? He’s fine with remaining at the level he is. He has enough talent to be good, but he puts the minimum amount of effort to maintain being a middle of the pack qb. He will never be in the mvp discussion.
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Trey Lance must be insanely grateful for Zach Wilson because he took all the attention away from Lance being arguably one of the biggest busts of all time.
Update: 5 interceptions in one preseason game, 3 first round picks burned in the incinerator 😟
Trey is definitely a bust but it really hasn't affected the Niners all that much. They're still one of the best teams in the league and will be for many years in the future. Zach Wilson being the next Ryan Leaf/JaMarcus Russell is the main reason why a Jets team with a Super Bowl caliber defense hasn't even sniffed the playoffs in 3 years.
@@philly_sports1558 that’s what I’m saying, could you imagine how much worse it would be if brock purdy didn’t exist? might’ve been a fire sale
If the Niners knew they would get Purdy, what do they do that year in the first round?
Lance wasn't bad at all he just couldn't stay healthy he never had a chance to prove himself
I don't know about grateful, dude got paid $30M to deal with a broken finger and a broken ankle, now gets to happily ride the bench to earn some cash without being in harms way, if he can get past the broken ego he'll be just fine. The question is whether the Cowboys keep him around, he's going to cost them 5.3M to be a backup? Ouch.
0:01 Tree? You been working out!? You look so much thinner. Nice goin bro! 💪🏻
Freaky
@@Narleeboywhat if instead of Urinatingtree he was called Urinatingfreak? 😈
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He can’t eat good food til the Steelers get a good QB
He talked about not drinking to lose weight in a previous video so he’s definitely reaping the rewards 🗿
The fact that davis mills is a top 3 qb from this class speaks volumes
And that was with the Texans being a shitshow themselves
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza as a texans fan i have a soft spot for mills. I hope hes strouds backup for a long time
@@YOSSARIAN313 hope you guys break out
@@YOSSARIAN313 they are trying to trade mills right now unfortunately
@@rodricksherrod :(
"Draft a QB" they told the Lions in 2021. We took Penei Sewell and stuck with Jared Goff.
Things worked out great.
In Brad Holmes we trust.
Ngl, that pick sold me that Holmes & Campbell actually knew what they're doing. I'm glad they've brought success back to Detroit
I was on the AR train if his combine wasnt ridiculous, but I also underestimated the readiness of the roster. I thought this year would be the one, not last year. Campbell/Holmes are a special duo and as a Packers fan, I hate that they stuck with him after the 1-8 or whatever it was start
@@TheDieseI Thanks.
This team is special and it is really cool to see how energized my area is with Lions hype. As long as I've been alive the Lions have been a punching bag, but now people are openly wearing Lions paraphernalia, we've had billboards stating pro-Lions quotes and the entire atmosphere has changed. It really feels like the team has exorcised some of its demons and resolved the defeatist attitude of the fan base.
Old Lions absolutely would have fired Campbell that quickly. It just feels like something new and competent is in the air. I'm not sure if we'll win it all, but the fact that we are in a legitimate position to do that is a fantastic feeling. The Cowboys fans may be mocked, but "This is our year!" Is a much healthier fan attitude than "We are doomed and going to blow it".
it was more ridiculous when in 2022 multiple analysts had the Lions selecting Malik Willis with the second overall pick
Brock Purdy single-handedly saved the entire 9ers front office and coaching staff. Mistakes like that reset franchises for years
Facts
Urban Meyer's coaching tenure should be considered a war crime.
Yes because being at a bar with a girl makes you a bad coach doofus
Urban Meyer is an excellent coach off field stuff has zero impact on coaching
@@AlexRosner-v8the was a terrible pro coach
@@AlexRosner-v8tonly at the college level. He was out of his element in the NFL. Outside stuff does have an impact on coaching because you have a responsibility to make sure the young players are staying disciplined in their life choices and activities. Their phone will blow up if one player gets in trouble. And Meyers’s off field choice to stay in Cincinnati instead of flying back to Jacksonville on the team’s chartered plane is a sign he wasn’t committed.
@@AlexRosner-v8t Lol Lawrence looked like a bust in 2021 because of Urban. Pederson shows up and immediately Lawrence looks more like the QB he was expected to be.
The fact that Trey Lance is a bigger bust than Zach Wilson shows how bad this QB class was
Honestly, Trey Lance was underwhelming but still, it doesn't even feel like he got that much of a shot. he got like one or two chances the he got hurt & Purdy happened & they just automatically gave up on him 🤷🏾♂️
@@MazeDaGr8still he didn’t really show anything
Wilson at least RARELY showed that he had potential the chiefs game for example
When did Lance ever?
@@MazeDaGr8It’s weird that they wanted such an obviously long-term project when they had short term goals.
@@JackCallSportsagain you make good points but still though you can't really know exactly what someone is going to be about if you don't give them a real chance plus not every quarterback is just going to come firing out of the gate immediately some people develop longer than others
That’s not a fact
The difference 2020 qb draft class vs the 2021 qb draft class will have to be studied
Covid inflated everybody’s draft stock. That’s why.
The difference between 2020 and 2021/2022 is crazy
Even compared to 2018 and 2019
Covid year development is my guess
@@IbelikemjSometimes prospects can just be better. Herbert was hyped up after his freshman year, Burrow dominated his final year, and Tua became big after the title game. Lawerence and to a less of an extent Fields were the only 2 that were hyped up on their actual college careers and not just picked high on speculative traits like Lance.
Saying Fields is a social media qb absolutely nailed it. His fans would salivate over his highlights, but outside of those couple plays per game he looked so lost in Chicago.
It was more bad games and good games with Fields. When he was on, he was great. When he wasn't, it showed. Defense giving up 30 a game didn't help the offense much either. The Bears were honestly just a horrible team all around for 2 and a half out of his 3 seasons.
Hes still a borderline top 5 bears qb all time
1. Jay cutler
2. Jim mcmahom
3. Bobby douglass
4. Rex Grossman
5. Trubisky / Fields take ur pick
I remember seeing a highlight reel before a Sunday Night game that was all Justin Fields highlights. Three dazzling plays against the 49ers. It was days later before I found out the Bears lost by multiple scores.
@@voiceofreason2674I’d say sixth.
Sid Luckman is better I’d say.
@@voiceofreason2674God, that's a depressing list.
Trubisky's highs still top Justin. Better numbers, helped Chicago to 12 wins, once. Also had some highlight plays, even some good games.
I'm a Justin Fields stan, but unless he is allowed to sit and develop along with the rest of Pittsburgh's young players, he isn't going to progress.
Tree, my dude, you're looking like you've lost some weight since last I saw you. Good for you, fam. Keep that shit up.
I was gonna say the same thing, my man is looking slimmer
My cookie and donut diet will put that lost weight right back on.
2020 vs 2021 is so juxtaposed. 2020 will go down as one of the greatest QB drafts of all time
Burrow - resigned by Cincy, Super Bowl appearance, Pro Bowl
Tua Tagovailoa - resigned by Miami, Pro Bowl, Passing Yards Leader
Justin Herbert - resigned by LAC, Pro Bowl
Jordan Love - resigned by Green Bay, won a playoff game in his starting year
Jalen Hurts - resigned by Philadelphia, made a Super Bowl appearance, Pro Bowl
And then 2021
Trevor Lawrence - resigned by Jacksonville, won a playoff game, Pro Bowl
Zach Wilson - traded to Denver
Trey Lance - traded to Dallas
Justin Fields - traded to Pittsburgh
Mac Jones - Pro Bowl, traded to Jacksonville (his rookie year will forever allude us)
I have to say this... re-signed. It's re-signed. Resigned means something more akin to, "GB fired Jordan Love."
i feel like Tua and Love are way over rated and def over paid now. Seen so many gifted athletes just crash and burn after signing huge contracts
@@mythrapi73 With the QB's mentioned... there's not really a bad period here. Jordan Love managed to pull some weight, as did Tua. On the topic of being overrated, I think it's too early to tell. We'll see on the incoming Sundays.
2022:
Kenny Pickett - traded to Pittsburgh
Desmond Ridder - traded to Arizona
Malik Willis - backup QB
Matt Corral - traded to New England, then Birmingham (UFL) (Edit: emergency QB in Minnesota due to JJ missing his rookie season to knee injury)
Bailey Zappe - backup QB
Sam Howell - traded to Seattle
Chris Oladokun - traded to Kansas City, played zero games
Skylar Thompson - backup QB
Brock Purdy - who else but Purdy?
@@delanofranklin5505Matt Corral just signed with the Vikings. 🤣
Zach "if she's 40 or older then I'm coming over" Wilson
Real life Finch
Hey, at least he's not a predator.
Zach "Cougar Hunter" Wilson
"God has to be a Packers fan" If that ain't the truest thing I've ever heard
Can't tell you how many pastors I've seen give sermons in a Packers jersey
Saying that in South Louisiana will get you a free exorcism
Given the amount of divine intervention they have to have to beat the bears it makes sense
@@MustacheDLuffydude the bears are just bad wdym
They have 1 superbowl and 2 nfc championships the past 25 years while having 2 top five QBs ever while they were in their primes. They’re massively overrated sadly
_Zach Wilson_ already has more career passing yards than *any* of the QBs drafted in 2007.
Also, 1996’s draft deserves mention, only four players threw a touchdown pass in an NFL game
@@fortynights1513bro if the jets didn’t win that game, That team would be playoff contenders with tlaw
@@itsmezach8307Not defending Zach Wilson at all. He hasn’t panned out and certainly has held the team back.
Just saying 1996 is under mentioned here when we talk about bad qb drafts
I feel like the class of 2021 is a pretty big indicator that coaching really DOES matter to a QBs development. Urban Meyer nearly permanently ruined Trevor Lawrence’s career and Bill Belicheck DID ruin Mac Jones’s career. Although, Wilson and Lance would have prob stayed trash even with good coaching.
BB ruined Jones?? STFU plz with that horseshit.... BB gave the guy a top 5 defense and run game that avg over 125 ypg his rookie year and he couldn't even progress. Wanna blame coach pencil? Bcuz he's a DC right? Wrong. He was Brady's OC (assistant) in the first SB run and Zappe didn't have issues winning games with the DC as OC. Sounds like you were one of the brain dead fans who wanted Jones and didn't like what you got in return bcuz he's JAG. Learn football....
Thanks for actually covering Lance's story properly. I get annoyed when people call him a bust because the fact is he was never given a chance. 4 games that was all, and they weren't really fully games. Shanahan also didn't want him originally and didn't like him. The GM wanted Lance, not him. So once Purdy came around and fit Shanahan system, how he wanted better and was cheap enough to make up for the draft capital loss. Lance was out the door. Any other player would of gotten more time to develop and actually prove their worth. Lance didn't get that and was never given an opportunity to really prove it. He's not a bust.
Also, wtf was San Fran thinking when they drafted him on a team that was built to win now. Should of just traded for a starting QB with that capital.
Agree every other qb from the 2021 draft class gets excuses despite playing way more games than lance and still showing nothing but Trey after 4 games played is somehow the biggest bust out of them all
And then Lance throws 5 ints
Trey Lance is currently behind Cooper Rush on the Dallas depth chart....
....a fitting spot for the greatest of all time?????
So honored for my team to be a part of this glorious QB class...I'm dying inside
Damn, Tree’s getting closer and closer to being TJ Watt’s double
Right he went from Big Ben's double to now TJ's double
@@Chuck_EL From Leader of Men to Leader of Sacks (in a single season)
The fact that SF traded 3 firsts to get Lance and are still a SB contender without him is pretty crazy
It’s really scary to think. Had they stayed put and drafted someone like Devonta Smith or Micah Parsons I think they would have another ring.
because the SF Defense is Nasty if only they actually had a QB they would have won at least 3 Rings in the last 5 years sigh
its better if you think about it like they traded 3 firsts for purdy and drafted lance in the 7th round
@kirtpunchesthings
Well they did have the 3rd pick in 2017 an chose…. Soloman Thomas!!
Not like there was some generational talent at QB or anything
Dallas fan who is enjoying watching 9ers lose to KC twice in SBs
they would of won a superbowl with Lance if they had kept him especially his rookie season when the Niners almost won it all with how awful jimmy g played in the regular season and postseason
Trey Lance getting the best return from his trade is *hilarious.*
It's good proof that it's "better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
I don't think we'll ever see the QB class of '07 "topped". It's not just the fact that *none* of the 11 QBs drafted developed into even mid-term starters, it's also the amount of talent that was available at other positions in that draft. Four Hall of Famers already from that first round.
and with the prospect of more, AP and maybe Marshawn Lynch
@@otaviofrnazario The Ravens fan in me is pulling for Marshal Yanda, too!
@@Harv72b qb's spared, it was a strong class, even in the later rounds.
Jacoby Jones was of 2007 too, to quote a Raven
How bad was the QB class of '07? The most successful QB was undrafted career back-up Matt Moore.
@@Harv72bHow does 07 compare to 1996 in your book?
Since you’re a Ravens fan, you may have saw the best quarterback in that class: Tony Banks.
Other than him, only three other players threw as many as ten passes in an NFL game at all.
Hot Take: I'm a New England Patriots fan and Mac Jones didn't fail in New England because of the Switch to Matt Patricia and Joe Judge as offensive coordinator in 2022. Mac Jones confidence actually died in a game the Patriots won, On December 6th 2021 the PATS beat the Bills 14-10 in a game where Mac Jones threw only 3 times. That was dud to wind gusts of 55 miles per hour happening in Buffalo during that game. Mac lost his confidence when the media made jokes about the Patriots not needing a quarterback. On December 6th 2021 after that win, The Patriots were the Number 1 seed in the AFC. They finished the season going 1-4 and Mac Jones having a 79 Passer rating. That's where he lost his confidence. Then in 2022 and 2023 it was exposed that he had little arm strength and athleticism. Bill and The Patriots did things to hamper Mac Jones, However his lack of arm strength, weak mentality and lack of athleticism is the reason why he became a bust. The Patriots also didn't account for the fact that Mac Jones looked so great at Alabama because he had elite talent around him, Mac Jones struggled when faced with any adversity. The Patriots drafted him at 15 after Patriots guaranteed $163 million in unrestricted free agency in 2021. Belichick put him in a decent situation on day 1. Much better than what Drake Maye is doing currently. I believe Maye will succeed over Mac Jones because he has the Arm strength and athleticism needed to become an elite QB in 2020s NFL.
This draft class is a certified Kellen Mond moment.
Kyle trask moment
It's Ian Book hours in here
It’s crazy how Mac jones is considered the second best quarterback of this class. Just shows how bad this quarterback class really was.
Mac Jones is gonna be in the league a long time. Hes not good but man he can take a beating and thats what makes a great backup and good tv.
And even then, that’s largely on his first year only
As a Bama fan, I was rooting for Mac to do well. I've also been a long-time Patriots fan and even I knew Mac wouldn't be a fit.
@@voiceofreason2674Ya, he's not terrible for a backup.
Worst part is idk how his confidence got destroyed so bad I get he had a dc as an oc but they won 8 games and 4 of the losses were by 1 score or less then he gets an actual oc and falls apart
That comment about Fields being the true social media QB was spot on 😂. Dude has a few highlight plays every week but his performance as a whole is subpar. I hope the Steelers can help him right the ship he still has a ton of potential.
Honestly this entire draft class is a prime example of the problem with this "Teams live & die by the quarterback" mentality fans and teams alike have now
Aye. Brock Purdy is a pretty good example of this, honestly: He’s not an exceptional talent, though hardly unskilled either. Moderate floor, fairly low ceiling all told… but the 49ers surrounded him with amazing players at basically every position. He didn’t suffer injury after injury, he was well coached (…setting aside questionable tactical decisions in the Super Bowl), he wasn’t getting sacked ten times a game. He had the support needed to develop. I really do wonder what Lance might’ve turned into if he’d not been injured in his first non-Monsoon game as a starter…
This is a philosophy that Teams really need to unlearn. These bottom of the basement teams think drafting a first round QB fixes everything. It doesn't and the fact that everyone hasn't looked at the Browns and learned that is astounding to me.
The QB is absolutely everything
@@AlonsoRules Yes the QB is a main focal point but one of the problem is just the over-reliance like for example when a team does good who gets most of the credit? The QB & when a team screws up who gets most of the blame? the QB even if it wasn't their faults
I'm just saying everyone should get their credit and accountability instead of it all just mostly going to one person
@@Rayen015the problem is this qb is different, our team needs a qb
As a Wyoming fan, it gives me immense pleasure to see BYU's latest golden boy QB falter in the pros. We may be so pathetic that they don't even see it as a rivalry in any sport at this point, but that just makes it all the more important to revel in the small victories.
😂 as BYU fan that grew up in Laramie in the 90s. Fun to see this. Looking forward to this seasons game. Hope the Pokes win the MWC.
@@kooperuranus1503 What a small world! I lived in Laramie for a few years myself. And personally, I'm just hoping we can have a winning season now that Bohl's retired. The Pokes don't have a good track record of replacing a good coach with another good one lol.
I'd also hope the Cougars are good this year, it wouldn't be any fun if we managed to give BYU a scare if they aren't any good.
Davis Mills had the most impact out of all these players
He kept Houston out of the first overall pick
If they ever win a Super Bowl, they should build a statue of him & Lovie Smith like what the Eagles did with Foles & Pedersen. That game may have saved their franchise
Bucs fan here, the Trask pick was not a bad one for us, it was a developmental pick, and it turns out he is a backup QB which is not a bust, we also didn't spend any real draft capital on him by comparison. We never really expected him to become a franchise QB, we were excited to see if he was capable after learning under Brady, but most of us knew he was going to be a QB2 at best, which is why we were speculating about other franchise QB options so much the year before Brady retired.
The only problem was that it was a 2nd round pick that could have been used to shore up the defense. Hindsight is 20/20 cause we didn't know Devin White was gonna suck after that super bowl run. If Trask was still available after the 5th round then it would have made sense.
All true, but we didn't know or plan that we would get Baker, and that Baker would actually turn out alright.. Keep Trask as a capable backup, at least for a while.
@@markdouglas9182 We had no clue who our next QB1 was going to be, there was speculation all over the place from Deshawn Watson (shudder), Jimmy Garoppolo, and even Aaron Rodgers.
The 2020 draft class is what the 2021 draft class was supposed to be
I vividly recall the hype surrounding all these QBs. Trey Lance should have never went that high with only one "season" of tape.
and the Niners gave up three first rounders for him? wtf were they thinking and how many heads if any rolled as a result of it. More ironically is how lucky they were with Mr Irrelevence..the nfl draft,,,,so unpredictable
I was listening to espn radio today. They were talking about Drake Maye and said he only had 2 years of playing in college and didn't start playing football until his senior year of HS. This is not a knock on Maye. I just think it's wild that these guys show anything for 1 or 2 years and everyone starts telling them their the savior. Make it make sense
I think this goes to show while talent is definitely a factor in the success or failure of a QB class, it's also heavily dependent on the situations they walk into (coaching + team around them + support from GMs)
That’s rings the question. Are some of these guys busts because they suck or is it because they went to a shit team 🤷🏾♂️
Side note: Anyone else feel a wave of nostalgia with Tree using the Training Music from the OG Smash Bros in his ad?
That game has good music
After Purdy, smart teams will value football IQ over arm strength. You can train aim and power, but almost never instinct
lol yeah right...smart teams will....but most will just keep doing what they're doing and so it goes
Even now, pundits are still discrediting Purdy... the scouts and front offices seem to have a series of measureables that the ideal QB must have, and if he doesn't have them, then he can't be The Guy. Front offices are going to continue to look for tall guys with cannon arms no matter what
2013 was pretty bad for most positions; it says a lot that the first overall pick was an offensive tackle. EJ Manuel is such a throwback, I remember whooping the Bills' ass with the All-25 team in Madden that year. Pretty sure the score was 73-24 or something like that
I’d say Geno’s regressed to the mean. One good year in Seattle, he’ll probably be gone after this season.
I like the Bears. 2000 and 2013 can be bad classes all they want but we get HOF Brian Urlacher and x3 pro bowler RG Kyle Long
It says even more that said offensive tackle wasn't even the best player taken by the team that drafted him
It's hard to get truly mad at San Fran for the Trey Lance deal. No one could have predicted Purdy was the real answer, and if Purdy didn't pan out to being the franchise guy after his own playoff injury Lance would probably still have a starting job. The lost draft picks hurt but at the time it was seen as the highest upside option. You just can't predict injury and bad luck, unfortunately.
Nonsense.
They traded a fortune for someone who had only been a starter for a single fucking year, instead of someone with proven experience like, Mac jones.
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Of course the fortune traded sucks, there's really no denying that. Trey was just seen as the easiest person for Shanahan to mold into his ideal QB at the time.
Maybe the whole narrative changes if Trey makes good, productive starts in Dallas after a Dak injury or holdout. Maybe this does become the major black eye on the Niners legacy if they fail to win in the next two seasons and have to do a tear-down due to cap constraints. Either way, we still have time for this to change.
@@anxiousorcus5489 No, no matter what happens, the Lance pick was fucking awful. The 49ers traded a metric shitload of draft capital to get:
~Someone who was only rarely a starter and wasn't great as one
~a single 4th round pick.
Even if Malik Mustapha (said fourth round pick) turns out to be really good for you, you legitimately cannot call that anything but a bust. That is absolutely fucking horrible draft value.
@@TheShinyFeraligatrTrey in 2019-2020 was 16-0 in his sophomore year with 28 tds and no interceptions but yeah sure he wasn’t a good starter lol
@@patek9789 The San Francisco 49ers went 16-0 with Trey Lance in 2019? First I've heard of it.
I think the NFL has a value problem. At some point quarterbacks will become so highly rated that depth and quality play will be sacrificed for raw potential from a qb. As a result, many MANY teams are desperately sacrificing top spot selections for 2nd round-3rd round qb prospects. Money is also a factor.
Quarterbacks are important obviously, but some of these teams could be setting some of their picks up to fail.
*At some point quarterbacks will become so highly rated that depth and quality play will be sacrificed for raw potential from a qb*
Considering the scenario exposed by Tree, I would say it's already happening. Or at least is ingrained in the minds of many. I'll quote a Lions fan from another comment, they said for them to pick a QB to replace Goff, thye picked Penei Sewell and it's paying off well I would say.
Goff is not the second coming, but he is average or slightly above and the rest of the team is doing really well
@@otaviofrnazarioYes this is exactly what I see too. You don’t need a superstar quarterback to win. It helps, any NFL team would gladly take one, but if the rest of the team are balanced and well trained, the quarterback position isn’t the be all end all.
@@otaviofrnazario My dad always believed that Jared Goff just needed to get out of LA and start fresh with another team. Detroit has given him that opportunity, and my dad was proven right. Same deal with Baker Mayfield after he was screwed over by Cleveland, Tampa Bay gave Baker the chance he needed.
In theory, the math says that the 32nd best quarterback deserves a starting job somewhere, and the 64th deserves a backup job.
You know it’s bad when the Jaguars made the best choice at the draft (Even if Trevor was seen as the default 1st overall pick)
I mean even we couldn’t screw that up (even though the Jags have tried their hardest ever since he got here smh)
Trever Lawrence is to Jaguars as Will Osprey is to AEW.
@@mychaeljones7526I would say MJF
This got to be the 2024 NBA draft class of NFL quarterback draft classes
Ridiculous comment when NBA class of 2024 could end up being like 2020 class that ppl said had no stars that end up producing Anthony Edwards.
@@truthbearer7891 yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I still doubt it
Soon as Zach Wilson went to the Jets, I knew he was done.
How far back do we need to go to find a quarterback who got better by going to the Jets?
@@TheFranchiseCARyan Fitzpatrick had probably the best season of his career with the Jets in 2015. After that they were like "We don't need you," and tried replacing him by drafting Christian Hackenberg, Sam Darnold, and Zach Wilson. Jets gonna Jet.
@@dfp_01 His best season in several statistical categories, including touchdowns, yards, and wins. It's totally reasonable to argue that's his best season, and if it's not, it's close. Then the Jets QB curse caught up for 2016.
I love how Tree always incorporates the old school game music with the videos. Excellent mix of my two favorite interests!
Tree's weight loss is crazy, good stuff man
Hey Tree,
Good video as usual. But you did make a minor error. Mac Jones’ OC at Alabama was Steve Sarkisian. Bill O’Brien became OC after Sarkisian left for Texas. Jones also went to the NFL the same year. Good video still. Keep it up.
Just commenting to say this was a great video! These are like Perna's "Balls Deep" videos but way more interesting / enjoyable to watch
Again...I LOVE ur content U talk like90% of what real sports fans feel but are afraid to say!!!! Never Stop!!!!!!!
Tree, you’re looking quite fit. Proud of you for being consistent in the gym 💪🏻
Edit: hoping Justin Fields plays really well in Pittsburgh
Us Bears fans love Trubisky! Even though it didn't work out, he played hard for us and was one double doink away from leading a deep playoff run.
I will never understand how you give an unproven qb 250 mil. The last 6 sb winners were pat mahomes, Matt stafford, and Tom Brady. And they aren’t even in the top 10 highest paid
Because a lot of these so called professionals are in all reality big time idiots.
Fields is doing pretty well at Pittsburgh. Great for you, Steel Tree
Tomlin is pushing him to be a pocket passer and I like it.
One thing that has to really sting for those teams that took a QB that year is just how damn good the 2021 draft class was. Penei Sewell, Micah Parsons, Jamarr Chase, Jaylen Waddle, Pat Surtain, Rashawn Slater. And the list doesn't end there. Gonna go down as one of the best draft classes in history, but bogged down by the QBs
In fairness to Kyle Trask, man's only started for two full seasons in his life, and his senior year as a Gator was solid, despite Dan Mullens. And Baker had a solid year last season, arguably better than Tom Brady's last season.
I understand why people have given up on him already, but I haven't. Brock Purdy was meant to be a disposable third stringer. Now look at him.
Facts.
In a week 3 update from the 24-25 season, Justin Fields is starting in lieu of an injured Russell Wilson, and he looks good! He’s not perfect at all, but he’s showing his talent as a rushing QB with a more talented o-line.
I'm glad this is getting a video now. I couldn't wait for the 2021 draft recap to hear about these failures from Tree's perspective
1:28 starting off with the Shining Force II track?? This channel gets better every single time.
Tree i havent really seen you much since last season but watching your latest videos you look great buddy keep up the great work
Out of every QB in this class, Trevor Lawrence is obviously tiers above everyone else (and just think about if he was on a competent team...) but I do believe that Fields is going to bounce back and improve now that he is with the Steelers.
As a Ravens fan, I am much more worried about Fields than Russ, and if Fields does improve, he is only 25 years old, so he could be a thorn in the Ravens side for a very long time.
One of my favorite jokes you had of Trea Lance was the Ba Sing Se reference
Lawrence falling off a cliff and Fields reviving his career just to fuck up this video
Trevor Lawrence not being terrible is basically the top of the class.
If you combine the 21 and 22 QB draft classes, you have like 1 high level QB, 1 slightly above average starter, and like 8 career backups.
So Brock is slightly above average starter. Alright, guess we watched different nfcc games
@@tellurius4951 I was referring to T-Law as the slightly above average starter and Purdy as the high level QB.
@@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 my bad dawg. And as a Niners fan I salute you
Adding to the hilarity is the fact that Jacksonville not only drafted Lawrence from that class, but they also got Jones from the same class on their team now. Amazing how life turns out sometimes lol.
And yes, I use Upside, it's not bad getting some money as cashback at places!
Mike Zimmer did Kellen Mond so dirty. Real Vikings fans know that Zim was insufferable by the end.
Tree out here living his best life. You love to see it.
Kyle and Lynch probably bow down to Purdy everytime he walks in the locker room. Any other GM and/or coach executes the Trey Lance trade and have it played out the way it did would be ex-communicated from the league for years. It's a miracle how Mr. Irrelevant potentially saved an entire franchise from getting blown up
Worst draft trade in NFL history
They're going to be paying Purdy in three digits millions! Of Kohls cash!
Having a tough time right now so it’s always brightens my day to watch a new video from Utree.
The fact that that teams won't develop QBs anymore will eventually lead to a diminished product
Totally
Looking sharp my man - good work 👍🙏
This class rivals 2013 and 2014 for how awful it was
I mean at least 2014 you had Derek carr and Jimmy Garropolo
@@jakebuchsbaum3348 mediocre af
@@broadstreetbullies849 Still quite a bit better than 2013 and this class in 2021.
@@yellercat500cat7 honestly probably true
@@broadstreetbullies849I wouldn’t necessarily classify a 4x Pro Bowler as mediocre.
I'm a Sarah MacLaughlan fan, and the "Paging Sarah MacLaughlan" line to the guy practically crying made me howl with laughter. Good one.
Assuming the 49ers were comfortable rolling the dice like they did, they had to be comfortable knowing they could roll double 1s. Still like the process, even if the result sucked.
Here after Lance threw 5 picks in a preseason game
Man, as a Bears fan I always felt bad for Fields.
That guy was a really dedicated player and an extremely good athlete who had an amazing ceiling.
But the Bears, being the Bears, instituted a system where his weaknesses were exaggerated and his strengths mostly hidden.
Nagy and Getsy had no idea what to do with him. And you could see in his last few games with Chicago he did step up and had great flashes, but a first round pick QB is a hard thing to pass up and Fields just couldn’t make the cut.
I'm going to drop this reddit post i saw years ago here...
"Prediction time before the season begins: The 2021 QB rookie class will be the greatest of all time.
Here are my ballpark estimates for the careers of the top five QBs.
Trevor Lawrence: 1-2 MVPs, will accumulate really good numbers, but I don't know about him getting to a Super Bowl. Think of an Andrew Luck career if Luck never got injured.
Zach Wilson: Really solid franchise quarterback for years to come. He'll keep the Jets relevant. I'll say 1 MVP and 1 Super Bowl appearance if Saleh can keep them going in the right direction. Comparable career to Matt Ryan.
Trey Lance: Will have the best career of the top 5 QBs. At least 2-3 MVPs, and I'll say 3+ Super Bowl appearances with 2 rings. Comparable to 2001-2010 Tom Brady.
Justin Fields: Will be the Bears first true franchise QB. 1-2 MVPs, and I think he'll win the Bears a Super Bowl. Similar career to Aaron Rodgers.
Mac Jones: If Belichick stays for the long run, which I think he will, I think he takes OROY, 1 MVP and 2 Super Bowl wins. Won't have the best stats but Belichick will build him up with his exceptional schemes. Similar career to Troy Aikman.
At least three of these guys will be in Canton one day.
Now go ahead and laugh at me and we'll all check back here in 20 years."
WOW, JUST WOW 😂
Bill O’Brien: the bane of every Alabama fan.
& Texans fans
Bill O'Brien: is a hack
Mac Jones should be a warning to any QB prospect about NE.
Ryan Leaf 🤝JaMarcus Russell🤝Zach Wilson
There's plenty of high drafted QBs that don't meet expectations but these are the guys where I wonder "How did you ever end up on an NFL field in the first place?" All had notoriously bad attitudes and maturity issues on top of it.
Then Sam Bradford Christian Ponder Jake Locker Blake Bortles
@@ademirsegura6307insanely enough Bortles came within an eyelash of playing in the Super Bowl
@@LordLowe yeah but after that year it all went to shit
@@ademirsegura6307you win
You've lost a lot of weight over the years! Congrats man!! 🎉
Holy fuck I would never expect Shining Force music in a football vid
Fields is a victim of the bears being qb hell, just look at how Caleb is struggling this year
How dare you discount General Mills. His actions on January 8th 2023 catapulted TWO franchises into promising positions
0:18 WeightLossTree = White Leo Messi
You never look like you go out to eat. Just like the regular Joe variant of TJ Watt.
I was originally pissed at Zimmer for his comment on Mond, but he was right. Dude was a third rounder and I still feel like he was a massive bust.
Before we begin i wanna thank UrinatingTree for pumping out consistently great content, you’re the best bro
Yo dude I can tell you’ve lost weight good job, I’m on a weight loss journey myself so I know how hard it is
Damn tree, you look fantastic. Congrats on the weight loss
John Lynch should count his lucky stars his late round draft picks panned out (See Kittle, Warner, and Purdy). Between Lance and Solomon Thomas any other GM woulda got fired for those swing and a miss first round selections.
kittle, not kelce
Tree looks like the person I expected when I heard his voice!!!
A manly voice indeed 😊
Always thought he’d be a great radio guy
I remember when someone on First Take said Justin Fields in Chicago is far better than Jalen Hurts.
Started watching since DOOS and you look good king, keep it up
The androgynous trevor lawrence got me lol
I found that pretty funny, too:)
I know we come here for the sports but i have to say UT has ****ing great video game music and sound effect taste.
I really wanna see Lawrence become an mvp level qb
Have you seen his attitude? He’s fine with remaining at the level he is. He has enough talent to be good, but he puts the minimum amount of effort to maintain being a middle of the pack qb. He will never be in the mvp discussion.
@@limitedbom2206 how do you know that, are you his friend or something lol
@@bingobongo8701 What has he improved at? Going into year 4 he is the exact same player as when he entered the league.
@@limitedbom2206 everything?
Good video UT very informative and entertaining 👍
16:40 Wait, is that a bit of Halo?
Yes.
Covenant dance baby!!
i love your work keep it up
Davis Mills might be the second best QB from this draft 😭 says alot
From the source leaks in New England Bill Belichick wanted Davis Mills not Mac Jones but Kraft said no
You looking good Tree. Keep it up bro 💪🏽