How The 2021 & 2022 QB Drafts Completely Failed

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @elijahwilliams7791
    @elijahwilliams7791 8 месяцев назад +1983

    Can't wait for the "what happened to the 223 players drafted before Brock Purdy" video

    • @ryancarroll1697
      @ryancarroll1697 8 месяцев назад +117

      261? I thought he went 262nd

    • @johnmack8904
      @johnmack8904 8 месяцев назад +86

      261 purdy was 262

    • @dnaharis7037
      @dnaharis7037 8 месяцев назад +40

      The video will be “what ever happened to brock purdy?”

    • @MrJackfro5t
      @MrJackfro5t 8 месяцев назад +91

      @@dnaharis7037 So we still living in the fantasy land after 2 seasons?

    • @DSW246
      @DSW246 8 месяцев назад +13

      Purdy is fine now, but when you pay him 60m a year the 49ers will be trash

  • @justinflores1069
    @justinflores1069 8 месяцев назад +187

    Davis Mills is the best one. Because he single handily brought 3 franchises a possible franchise qb. That hail Mary last year led to the Bears, Texans, and Colts getting a franchise qb. Give that man a staute

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther 7 месяцев назад

      How so?

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@jimwerther - Without pass Texans draft first and take Young instead of Stroud. Panthers do better with Richardson who becomes their franchise QB. Young flames out with the Texans like he probably is with the Panthers. Bears don't get first pick because Panthers do better with Richardson. Arguable but that is the reasoning. Not sure who the #2 pick was on Panthers draft board. They could have taken Stroud instead so Richardson ends up with the Colts anyway. Colts probably get a franchise QB either way with Stroud or Richardson.

    • @dorothymao432
      @dorothymao432 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@exhaustguythe panthers might not have even traded up to only have the 2nd overall pick. colts would’ve WON that hail mary game and been the 7th pick instead of the fourth and probably not been able to get richardson.

    • @LZ21-
      @LZ21- 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@exhaustguy bobby slowik would of still done the same for bryce as he did with CJ and if cj was in carolina he would of maybe done better then bryce there but he would of still been in the worse situation

    • @LZ21-
      @LZ21- 7 месяцев назад

      @@dorothymao432 i wish AR15 didnt go to indi tbh such a boring team imo like Steichen is cool but he would of been so nice somewhere else that gets more media attention

  • @derekrau8236
    @derekrau8236 8 месяцев назад +198

    There were 17 QB picked between Trevor Lawrence and Brock Purdy. That’s almost a 1 out of 10 QB hit rate.

    • @LUCKIPUP
      @LUCKIPUP 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@randombutrelevantpretty real, everyone with two braincells knew the 21/22 draft was pretty qb barren

    • @jakedunnegan
      @jakedunnegan 7 месяцев назад +1

      That's what scares me for my current local team (Washington) - they're picking #2, and I just feel like there's no way any of the QBs they could take there will actually be the franchise QB they need (and haven't gotten for over 20 years).

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy 7 месяцев назад +6

      What truly puzzles me is why Mac Jones is a mid 1st round pick and Purdy is a late 7th round pick. Looking at their college stats, I am not seeing it. They have similar styles and Jones was passing to much better talent than Purdy (arguably a bit better competition to but the Big 12 isn't the FCS either).

    • @spidamitchell8311
      @spidamitchell8311 7 месяцев назад

      And Trevor wasn’t a hit

    • @skinnex3236
      @skinnex3236 Месяц назад

      ​@@jakedunnegan i stunbeld on this , how you feeling about JD ?

  • @UponThisAltar
    @UponThisAltar 8 месяцев назад +687

    "Most busty QB drafts"
    Didn't realize we graded QB's on breast size...

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 8 месяцев назад +46

      Gardener Minshew clears them all!

    • @javelin4641
      @javelin4641 8 месяцев назад +14

      underrated comment. lol.

    • @TheForbidden_1ne
      @TheForbidden_1ne 8 месяцев назад +15

      We always did it unofficially...

    • @Joescotterpuss
      @Joescotterpuss 8 месяцев назад

      We're already judging players by the size of their ass, so this is a natural progression.

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@sexgod57ableits the only way

  • @ancapgrandscribe9546
    @ancapgrandscribe9546 8 месяцев назад +270

    Macorkle was bound to fail with Keemstar as his coordinator.

    • @Freddie7191
      @Freddie7191 8 месяцев назад +10

      He was better with Matt Patricia than he was this year.

    • @ancapgrandscribe9546
      @ancapgrandscribe9546 8 месяцев назад +27

      @@Freddie7191 Hardly, and it ain’t really about the stats with Keemstar, it’s about the curse he brings to all teams who hire him

    • @thankyoubasedgod4543
      @thankyoubasedgod4543 8 месяцев назад +19

      keemstar😭😭💀💀

    • @NLSNcs
      @NLSNcs 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@ancapgrandscribe9546 bro keemstar killed me omg

    • @Taronj04
      @Taronj04 8 месяцев назад +4

      😂😂😂

  • @cattibingo
    @cattibingo 8 месяцев назад +219

    Brock Purdy is like "nah not me. Im no bust" and walks away from the thumbnail.

    • @shawnheidingsfelder8179
      @shawnheidingsfelder8179 8 месяцев назад +3

      He is if he never wins a SB with the NIners. They have higher standards there than teams like Cleveland or Chicago do.

    • @alanleal30
      @alanleal30 8 месяцев назад +50

      @@shawnheidingsfelder8179that wouldn’t be a bust. You can’t be a bust as the last player drafted and as a playoff QB

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 8 месяцев назад +28

      @@shawnheidingsfelder8179Dan Marino, well known bust

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly 8 месяцев назад +24

      ​@@shawnheidingsfelder8179last QB in the whole draft literally can't be a bust lol

    • @johnbull1568
      @johnbull1568 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@SolaceMcfly Don't tell him that. I want to hear him explain how the last pick could possibly be a bust. . .

  • @CheeseWheelEnthusiast
    @CheeseWheelEnthusiast 8 месяцев назад +133

    Perna is an enigma... That's it I have nothing else to say.

    • @FAFO.K7NG
      @FAFO.K7NG 8 месяцев назад +28

      Pernigma

  • @MFBloosh
    @MFBloosh 8 месяцев назад +100

    Besides Purdy obviously, Trevor who's still a starter, and Justin who will get a chance to start again eventually, I can't see anyone else from either draft becoming a long term starter for any team unless they pull off some Geno Smith level turnaround in a few years.

    • @picklenik9658
      @picklenik9658 8 месяцев назад +29

      Ironic you mention Geno, cause the guy with the best chance is probably Sam Howell who’s currently backing up Geno

    • @clintpreslar452
      @clintpreslar452 8 месяцев назад +10

      Sam Howell

    • @fate8718
      @fate8718 8 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah Sam Howell has a better chance than Justin
      He has shown ability just needs to sit behind a vet
      Now the division he is in does him no favors now but Sam has a better shot than Feilds

    • @scruffd0g193
      @scruffd0g193 8 месяцев назад +2

      ⁠@@picklenik9658yeah Howell is more talented than geno.

    • @MFBloosh
      @MFBloosh 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@picklenik9658 True I forgot Howell. He looked really good the first half of the season. Not so much the 2nd half of the season though. Who knows, maybe he'll take Geno's spot lol.

  • @michaelshan22
    @michaelshan22 8 месяцев назад +43

    2021’s QB draft class is probably the worst relative to expectations and where the guys were drafted. What makes it even worse is that it was an incredible draft for other positions which means these teams missed out on them.

  • @rjjohnson2
    @rjjohnson2 7 месяцев назад +24

    I can’t believe as Jets fan I’ve never caught on to the fact that Zach “Milf hunter” Wilson played for the “Cougars” 😂😂😂

  • @redkritter1225
    @redkritter1225 8 месяцев назад +207

    NFL owners not letting their QBs develop is baffling.

    • @bradbaxter3343
      @bradbaxter3343 8 месяцев назад +31

      Too expensive after the rookie contract

    • @PxNxWxGxW
      @PxNxWxGxW 8 месяцев назад +15

      Cos it's the win now mentality. Only one team gets the ring every year. It's like NBA mentality. Smh.

    • @weregretohio7728
      @weregretohio7728 8 месяцев назад +28

      The NFL has somehow gotten worse with rushing talent despite the ever-increasing body of experience to work with...

    • @TheForeverRanger
      @TheForeverRanger 8 месяцев назад +30

      The problem is too many coaches feel pressured to start their first round picks. I have long argued that no rookie QB should start unless they blow you away in camp.

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 8 месяцев назад +14

      Best NFL fans want to have a QB’s head if he hasn’t dragged their sorry ass team into the Super Bowl by year 2. Unless it’s Brock Purdy, then people just hate him for absolutely no reason

  • @thomasmeier4399
    @thomasmeier4399 7 месяцев назад +10

    Matt Corral was more sad than anything. He struggled with mental health and alcohol in college but was cleaning up and had his best season. Gets injured in preseason whenever he had an actual chance of playing which causes him to slip into a depression, then makes a comeback only for the team to (stupidly) trade up and draft a QB at number 1 then cut him. He starts in the UFL now and seems to be a lot happier

  • @JamesSavik
    @JamesSavik 7 месяцев назад +21

    Historically, franchise QBs don't really "get it" until their third year. This emphasis on WIN NOW rookies is utter stupidity. It's only worked once.

    • @archmage7813
      @archmage7813 7 месяцев назад +11

      It's never worked. Patrick Mahomes actually sat for a year and learned the game from Alex Smith. All rookies need to learn.

    • @floridaman6281
      @floridaman6281 2 месяца назад +2

      @@archmage7813he means Stroud. But yes, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow (injury), and many more didn’t get good until after their first year.

    • @lucyfir2166
      @lucyfir2166 2 месяца назад

      ​@@archmage7813no one was talking about mahomes

    • @archmage7813
      @archmage7813 2 месяца назад

      @@lucyfir2166 you might want to watch that video again

  • @natevart4156
    @natevart4156 8 месяцев назад +61

    If teams just let there QBs have a few years I guarantee you would find that a few of the so called “busts” aren’t actually as bad as they seem. Usually QBs look bad when they have zero oline and a horrible play caller. Which high round draft pick teams usually have. Teams dispose their QBs damn near right away. It’s a total waste

    • @luminen4051
      @luminen4051 8 месяцев назад +17

      As a packers fan, duh

    • @natevart4156
      @natevart4156 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@luminen4051 as a bears fan, it’s the one thing that I can respect the packers for understanding. They understand that more than anyone. That being said the bears are the worst at this but hopefully this year is different, the bears have made things as good as they can possibly be for who ever they draft

    • @JohnFKennedy313
      @JohnFKennedy313 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@natevart4156Not a bears or packers fan but at least Caleb will be going into a more ideal situation that most QBs picked number 1. Bears at least understand finally that drafting a QB with no weapons and a horrible team in general is not gonna lead them to success.

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@JohnFKennedy313sadly we’ll still be starting Williams with a terrible play caller on day one so we’ll all be back here in 3 years talking about what QB the Bears are going to ruin next

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@sexgod57able not exactly a high bar to beat

  • @scruffd0g193
    @scruffd0g193 8 месяцев назад +20

    That 2021 QB Class really shows you how hard it is to develop a QB, Chiefs and Pat just made it look easier.

  • @FootballLoreOfficial
    @FootballLoreOfficial 8 месяцев назад +38

    I will play QB for only 250k a year, I am a great bargain

    • @isgreen3
      @isgreen3 8 месяцев назад +18

      Welcome to the Broncos

    • @ForsakenWar
      @ForsakenWar 7 месяцев назад +3

      I'll be your back up and carry the clipboard for $100,000👍

  • @JHVZ23
    @JHVZ23 8 месяцев назад +134

    I'm so happy that Perna actually respects Brock Purdy. If no one else believes in him, at least I have that.

    • @Bootyeater999
      @Bootyeater999 7 месяцев назад +6

      Not the most naturally talented but still a good qb

    • @dad2986
      @dad2986 7 месяцев назад

      Bum purdy

    • @THFC8
      @THFC8 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@Bootyeater999system qb Purdy has a top 5 rb top 5 te two top 20 WRs top 10 oline and top 10 defense

    • @Bootyeater999
      @Bootyeater999 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@THFC8you lose all credibility saying system QB.😂Every QB is a system QB

    • @THFC8
      @THFC8 7 месяцев назад

      @@Bootyeater999 every qb don’t have a top 5 TE top 5 rb two top 20 WRs top 10 oline top 10 defense either 🤡😂

  • @alexkates5327
    @alexkates5327 8 месяцев назад +26

    America’s favorite pass-time… over hyping teenagers

  • @Zexx4
    @Zexx4 8 месяцев назад +98

    It's almost like throwing your fresh out of college QB to the wolves isn't a very good strategy
    Edit: also some of these guys have only had terrible O-lines that did them no favors either

    • @clintpreslar452
      @clintpreslar452 8 месяцев назад +11

      Yeah I kinda wanna see Howell if he takes any snaps for Seattle this season. I feel like he did reasonably well considering how shitty his team was and draft position.

    • @khooterlooter9255
      @khooterlooter9255 8 месяцев назад +5

      Looking at YOU Deshone Kizer 👀

    • @ralph8677
      @ralph8677 8 месяцев назад +8

      I've felt this problem started thanks to the Steelers reaching the AFC Championship Game with a rookie Big Ben. He was an immediate contributor, so teams started believing every rookie QB should be that way, completely forgetting that those Steelers were already Super Bowl contenders, & Big Ben was the missing piece. Same situation with Mahomes in KC.

    • @JDBass36
      @JDBass36 8 месяцев назад +6

      QB is the most mysterious position in football
      It just all depends on the teams they got drafted by the players around him and the coaches
      Some players needed a certain coach to unlock there potential
      Mahomes on the Bears roster would probably be a different Mahomes from today
      Some QBs thrive year 1 similar to Stroud and others need to sit on the bench first Brady, Rodgers etc..

    • @TheForeverRanger
      @TheForeverRanger 8 месяцев назад +6

      You would think in a copycat league like the NFL they would take the Chiefs or GB approach and have their rookie QB sit behind an established veteran like Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. Mahomes is the outlier to end all outliers because the Chiefs built a team before taking Mahomes but I digress.

  • @thomastempleman2029
    @thomastempleman2029 8 месяцев назад +35

    I was recently reminded of Ian Book’s existence recently in Madden Franchise mode, when I played against him on the saints. This wasn’t the original Ian Book either, this was an AI create-a-character that was also named Ian book with the same jersey number(#16).

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings 8 месяцев назад

      He probably would have made a better bookend....than a NFL QB.

  • @jakedunnegan
    @jakedunnegan 8 месяцев назад +106

    You literally said at the end what I quoted to one of the local broadcasters on his RUclips page (1 out of 10 QBs taken in the first round will actually be a franchise QB) - and he said my numbers were off.
    Yeah, not so much.

    • @sweetdaddydee1314
      @sweetdaddydee1314 7 месяцев назад +8

      Never, ever pay attention to any mock draft. They are literaly pointless.

    • @FRANKSNAKE71
      @FRANKSNAKE71 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@sweetdaddydee1314So true! Like “ power rankings” just opinions so meaningless in the grand scheme of things🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Dawthinhtay-hn3pb
      @Dawthinhtay-hn3pb 7 месяцев назад

      Ft ft no😢😢😢😢 by n.
      ​@@FRANKSNAKE71m . 10:01 10:01 😮 10:01

    • @robertcampbell8070
      @robertcampbell8070 7 месяцев назад

      Depends on what you consider a franchise QB. Like do you just mean a guy good enough to get a second contract? Or does he have to be a "franchise player," literally a franchise changing QB. If it's the latter, then it's even less than 1 in 10. There's maybe 3 of those guys in the NFL right now. If you just mean a decent starter, it's probably closer to 1 in 2.

    • @jakedunnegan
      @jakedunnegan 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@robertcampbell8070 I just mean a QB good enough that you don't have to go looking for another one. Ideally, it's a QB that a team feels they can either go deep in the playoffs or to the Superbowl with. But, to answer your question, no not really one that needs a "franchise" tag.

  • @Robjay1795
    @Robjay1795 8 месяцев назад +13

    Its more like a "dontgototheseorganisations", for example the Jets are like a cemetary of talented QBs.

  • @DirtyDLions685
    @DirtyDLions685 7 месяцев назад +2

    11:37 the hand gesture you made while saying “busty” is why we all love you Perna

  • @Deathstroke4200
    @Deathstroke4200 7 месяцев назад +5

    I still remember watching Purdy his freshman year at Iowa State. He was pretty good obviously he had his ups and downs, but you could see the talent and competitiveness he had. Honestly I was surprised he was "Mr. Irrelevant", which he isn't anymore lol

    • @blueredlover1060
      @blueredlover1060 Месяц назад

      The way I remember that draft playing out is that Purdy was a first round projected QB at the beginning of the season. He was rather mid that year, good but not great and fell because of it.

  • @zacknelson8918
    @zacknelson8918 8 месяцев назад +23

    This video proves my point, the scouts dont know crap about players, they say this guy will go #1 and he flames out, while a late pick or in this case purdy shows the world, scouts dont know what they evaluate

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 8 месяцев назад +5

      Let’s give Purdy some credit here. I’m a huge ISU fan, even I was shocked to see Purdy play like this. He’s a smart QB that doesn’t crumble under pressure and it’s so much harder to scout for that than it is to scout a guy with a strong arm

    • @runriot-ke3cv
      @runriot-ke3cv 7 месяцев назад

      Virtually all starters, save a couple, are 1st round draft picks if not top 10 picks. I would say the scouts do OK.

    • @northenlightsss
      @northenlightsss 7 месяцев назад

      Never trusted them 😂

    • @Mr___f
      @Mr___f 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@lunarumbreon7699 He also plays on the best offense (not counting the QB position) in the NFL. No way he does anywhere close to as well on the Panthers or Jags. Lot of talented QBs end up just never getting the chance because the play for poverty teams.

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Mr___f the QB position is literally about distributing the ball to better athletes. It’s not Brock Purdy’s fault that he has a good team. Mahomes isn’t taking the Panthers to the Super Bowl. It’s so dumb to say he’s a bad QB just because he’s smart with the football

  • @caseyfaceirwin
    @caseyfaceirwin 8 месяцев назад +12

    Brandon please. My lunch break is only so long. Stop making so much good content

  • @tedmich
    @tedmich 8 месяцев назад +23

    12:15 so Trevor loses his fumbles 64% of the time? Thats > 2x the average of the other 5 worst QBs (27%) ? Thats crazy!

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy 7 месяцев назад +3

      He carries the ball like a loaf of bread. HC should make him carry a football everywhere in training camp and have every other player try to punch it out.,

    • @jimbo0386
      @jimbo0386 7 месяцев назад

      Honestly that's fair. Some of these fumbles were just him dropping thr ball for no reason like against the eagles in that rainy game. if he could just not.. do that.. and throw a few lass interceptions and convert on 3rd down A little more often he'd Honestly be a top 10 qb, like his stats are actually pretty good other than that, and he has a little something, he can definitely be a winner just not fumbling 4x a game

  • @thequixoticangler3364
    @thequixoticangler3364 7 месяцев назад +19

    Trey Lance was basically proof the league doesn't understand qbs as it pertains to scouting.
    Played half a season really. He rarely played past halftime. Had no real tape. Didn't do the All Star games.
    He played one game in '20. Against UCA. Didnt play well.
    Then he had a monster combine. I mean "He must be Him." Type performance. A combine baby.
    It happens way too often. A guy has one excellent day in shorts throwing to wide open guys. Then, he's "high ceiling" or "raw potential".
    Its an obvious flaw they refuse to deal with.

    • @MikeHarvey-ol7xr
      @MikeHarvey-ol7xr 7 месяцев назад +5

      And having NO INT's for a season is a red flag. No tight window throws. No throws under duress. No resemblance to the NFL game.

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 7 месяцев назад

      @@MikeHarvey-ol7xr it's even crazier than that. You're a fellow tape rat, I'm assuming. You mentioned some things only a rat would notice.
      1. Beyond the 0 int, he had less than 10 contested passes all year. That's not just a red flag, that drops you off the board if the scouts understand football. He played in a ridiculously basic scheme.
      2. That scheme was because of him. He's not a high IQ player. He never, ever called an audible and check downs were slim to none.
      Again, a good scout understands that means one of three things:
      1. The coaches are ignorant and don't know how to scheme. Not likely considering that HC took over at KSU and has revolutionized that offense.
      2. They don't trust him. If you're not giving him options, that's because he can't be trusted to understand when and why.
      3. He's an airhead. His interviews confirmed this. Shanahan didn't want him, but McDaniel and the owner were sold. The brass forced the pick. Shanny knew it was a waste from go.
      In this case it's 2 and 3. He just didn't have it, but because of Wentz and the spotlight on that program (NDSU during the 5 year period from Wentz to Lance lost 0.3 games a year, and, they had more players drafted in that time than the rest of fcs combined) and him going off in Indy, he got the "Needle" treatment. As in they thought they'd found the needle in the haystack.
      The Lawrence draft had 4 "Needles". Only Trevor remains. Teams feel forced to draft a QB in the first. It's killing the league.

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@MikeHarvey-ol7xr one more thing: Nobody develops QBs anymore. They just assume they're ready and will grow into it.
      Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, Cousins and Brees all sat a year or more.
      The NFL did this to itself because of one player: Andrew Luck. He broke the mold and the game as a whole. Everyone is looking for the next Luck.
      The best "new" QB this year was Love. What did he get to do that the others didn't? Sit and learn. Levis is next.....

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 7 месяцев назад +1

      Shanahan's biggest failure was drafting Trey Lance.
      That whole draft pick and what it cost was an epic fail by Kyle and the 49ers

    • @kaphizmey6229
      @kaphizmey6229 7 месяцев назад +1

      with all due respect to every trey lance hater gathered here, HE HAS NOT HAD ENOUGH PLAYING TIME TO JUDGE WHETHER HE IS A BUST OR NOT. i still think after dallas’ terrible “all in” free agency, they should start him over dak prescott and see if he’s the guy.
      depending on his performance, you either cut dak and build around trey or pay dak and tank for a top 5 pick next year. then again, jerry jones is an idiot who won’t do those things because he doesn’t want his team to be better

  • @alanpeel1981
    @alanpeel1981 8 месяцев назад +11

    Brandon makes a great point about how teams will do crazy things when they are desperate to get a quarterback. Chiefs weren’t completely desperate when they drafted Patrick Mahomes since they already had Alex Smith, a solid QB. The Broncos were desperate and traded for (and extended) Russell Wilson.

    • @ryanjones875
      @ryanjones875 7 месяцев назад

      Alex Smith was never a solid QB. Reid had to take out half the playbook to make him look viable. Great guy and though.

    • @ForsakenWar
      @ForsakenWar 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@ryanjones875Alex Smith WAS a solid QB... he was just never a great QB who was gonna take the Chiefs deep into the playoffs.

    • @ryanjones875
      @ryanjones875 7 месяцев назад

      @@ForsakenWar Sorry, I watched all his games. He was anything but solid. Possibly the most overrated QB of all time. Nice guy, though.

    • @ryanjones875
      @ryanjones875 7 месяцев назад

      @@ForsakenWar Go back and watch the film. Somehow people forget how he actually played. Set the 49ers back for almost a decade.

    • @ForsakenWar
      @ForsakenWar 7 месяцев назад

      @@ryanjones875 Never watched him as a 9er. In Reids system he played really solid... his last season with the Chiefs he threw for over 4,000 yds with 26 TDs and 5 ints. He just didn't have 'it' to do anything in the playoffs. Of course he was older and nearing the end of his career with the Chiefs. Even Mahomes had credited him with his mentorship and professionalism.

  • @jrm78
    @jrm78 8 месяцев назад +8

    Fields is a victim of bad timing since he was drafted by a coach and GM who were both on the hot seat trying to save their jobs. This was mostly because Ryan Pace's roster construction sucked as he constantly traded picks to move up in the draft and only did the bare minimum to improve the o-line and skill positions. And when Pace finally did draft a tackle, he needed back surgery and missed half his rookie season - which has been a recurring theme since the last super bowl appearance for them. Nagy on the other hand failed Justin by putting him in as a starter far too soon against an opportunistic Browns defense led by Myles Garrett while implementing a game plan that envisioned using Andy Dalton passing from the pocket. He got sacked like 10 times in his first game and the sacks never stopped coming. Big Dick Nick Foles who was second on the depth chart should have gotten the start against the Browns and let Justin start against an easier opponent. Nagy continued to not tailor the game plans to Justin's strengths the rest of the season and both he and Pace were gone at the end.
    Poles has been very diplomatic in his wait-and-see approach to Justin's development, but ultimately his slow development and inconsistent play have led Poles to move in a different direction.
    I wish Justin all the best in his second chance with the Steelers because he's a good dude with very obvious talent that needs to be harnessed and have the wrinkles in his game ironed out. And I look forward to the dawning of the Caleb Williams era in Chicago and hope that maybe, just maybe fortune smiles upon the Bears at the quarterback position. Even the Cubs eventually won a World Series, no?

  • @Mia_Waiting
    @Mia_Waiting 8 месяцев назад +73

    Trey Lance could still get a chance if a needy team takes a shot on him.

    • @benisrood
      @benisrood 8 месяцев назад +10

      The guy shouldn't have been drafted before the 4th round. He HAD to have known that he was in no way ready for the NFL. He could have stayed another year in North Dakota, he saw that there was a chance to steal a bunch of money and took it. If not, he actually believed the hype about himself and that's arguably even worse.
      He has a chance to show out in Dallas, let's see what he shows us in the pre-season.

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 8 месяцев назад +2

      😅

    • @TheForbidden_1ne
      @TheForbidden_1ne 8 месяцев назад +1

      The Commies are the only team I could see being that desperate

    • @MistaTofMaine
      @MistaTofMaine 8 месяцев назад +2

      Problem with Lance was he was supposed to be the guy, but within a year became apparent he was the third best QB in his team.

    • @Insulationwezard
      @Insulationwezard 8 месяцев назад +3

      As a 49ers fan who has seen him play I wouldn’t say so the guy reads the field like braille and decision making is as good as Kanye’s he’s like a downgraded justin feilds

  • @jrod9560
    @jrod9560 7 месяцев назад +2

    Perna much love for making me laugh on a bad day! You rock. I always knew you would get big when Ryan told me many years ago!

  • @michaelhession2105
    @michaelhession2105 7 месяцев назад +3

    Let me put it this way. 2021 was a very hard year to judge the QB class just because a lot of them played a shortened 2020 season because of COVID-19. I don't blame the scouts for putting guys like Zach Wilson and Trey Lance that high because those guys played more games in 2020 than most of the QBs in that class. The same went for 2022. Although a bunch of highly touted QBs had down years in 2021 which is why they slid in the draft. The 2023 QB class needs time as well, but there's also the feeling that like most times when a QB is considered a bust, it has little to do with him but with how inept those organizations are when it comes to surrounding the QB with a talented Offensive Line. Whats the point of a top QB if he doesn't have a freaking line long term.

  • @smusgrav
    @smusgrav 8 месяцев назад +11

    Zach Wilson went into a horrible situation. The O-line was awful. Most highly drafted QB’s are going to horrible teams which kills them. While lower 1st round teams don’t need QB’s. That’s why I like the Green Bay model of developing a QB behind another QB. That’s why I wish the Broncos kept R. Wilson and then draft a QB to sit behind him for a year.

    • @runriot-ke3cv
      @runriot-ke3cv 7 месяцев назад +1

      So Zach would have done better if he had been drafted by, say, the 49ers...like Trey L... eh, never mind.

    • @colbygordon6936
      @colbygordon6936 7 месяцев назад +4

      Zach's attitude didn't help though. Bro has the vibe of a middle school bully, and his only notable accomplishment is his cougar hunt.

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy 7 месяцев назад

      @@runriot-ke3cv - Trey Lance had one year at a FCS school and he absolutely needed to hit the ground running with that team. He didn't. I don't think he could process Shanahan's offfense. That was why Shanahan was having him run a QB keeper into the line (the play he got injured on).

    • @SoloDoloToker
      @SoloDoloToker 7 месяцев назад

      ​​@@runriot-ke3cvThe 49ers have a terrible pass blocking line soooo

    • @SoloDoloToker
      @SoloDoloToker 7 месяцев назад

      All I hear are excuses Brock Purdy literally has a bottom 8 pass blocking line yet didnt get sacked much

  • @josephseulean1377
    @josephseulean1377 7 месяцев назад +3

    I was at a Broncos v Jets game that Zach Wilson started, we beat Wilson 26-0. Teddy two gloves

  • @BrandonKClark86
    @BrandonKClark86 8 месяцев назад +10

    It's gunna happen again this year, there will be 5 qbs drafted in the first round and MAYBE 2 will good, but probably only 1

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings 8 месяцев назад

      Looking at the 1st round QBs since 2010...only 1 out of 5 look to become 10 year starters.

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 7 месяцев назад +3

      The QB's this year are good, but some may fail because they are going to crap teams with no weapons and no O-line
      Their confidence will get shot and they will fail

  • @thecore9805
    @thecore9805 8 месяцев назад +7

    2:48, they showed a picture of Jake Ehlinhger instead of Sam

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 7 месяцев назад +2

    Another great video Perna. The scariest thing about the Niners is they've made 3 straight NFC championships AFTER fucking up that massive trade for Lance. If they got literally anything out of those 3 first round picks, they should reasonably have a ring or two.

  • @EmmaBonn96
    @EmmaBonn96 7 месяцев назад +1

    You make a good point about needing about 4 or 5 years to judge a qb
    I feel like I have a much better grasp on the 2018 qb class than the 2019 qb class

    • @jeremyherberich2087
      @jeremyherberich2087 7 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately ballooning qb contracts now make it damn near impossible to resign a qb by that point if they surround him with a good team smfh

  • @codybaker1150
    @codybaker1150 7 месяцев назад +2

    I never expected in my life to hear "Texas State" from on That's Good Sports

  • @danielhamilton1130
    @danielhamilton1130 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow!! What a good deep dive on wilson. That is real reporting!!!

  • @skipperking1152
    @skipperking1152 7 месяцев назад +3

    Mann this was a great video a lot of good points

  • @bradshaw2244
    @bradshaw2244 7 месяцев назад +1

    What went wrong is too many nfl scouts, and talking heads of the media boosted these dudes up so much for not proving anything. So many came from dominant programs where they really didn’t have to be a smart qb, they just had to deliver the rock- and now they realize that you gotta break down blitzes zone coverages etc…maybe scouts will learn

  • @Duuuval23
    @Duuuval23 8 месяцев назад +8

    Trevor was having a good season before the injuries started piling up. High ankle sprain, knee sprain, sprained shoulder and a concussion. They were 8-3 and he had something like a 17-7 TD to interception ratio. He had absolutely zero running game and a number 1 receiver (Ridley) that didn’t know the playbook and was constantly running the wrong routes. He also dropped numerous wide open touchdowns. The o-line was statistically the worst in football in pass pro and run blocking.
    That said, Trevor does need to stop fucking fumbling!!!!😂

    • @jimbo0386
      @jimbo0386 7 месяцев назад +1

      Perfect take, I think it's a little bit of hero ball syndrome, needs to protect the ball, not cut inside and try to dive over people like he's cmc or something. It could also be adjusting to the ball, maybe hand size and grip?? Like he didn't do this in college, its like he couldn't fumble and if he did he always got back on it, then he gets in the nfl and takes off to run and just drops it, if I were him I'd honestly just start cradling the ball like a power rb any time he tries to run it. Just to be sure

    • @Duuuval23
      @Duuuval23 7 месяцев назад

      @@jimbo0386 i truly think he’s just trying to overcompensate for how bad the o-line is. He’s trying to do too much. 2022 showed what he can do if he just has a little time to throw.

    • @123shoshan
      @123shoshan 7 месяцев назад

      Stop career 85 rating

    • @123shoshan
      @123shoshan 7 месяцев назад

      @@Duuuval23stop joe burrow made super bowl with much worse oline

    • @Duuuval23
      @Duuuval23 7 месяцев назад

      @@123shoshan ok? What does that have to do with Trevor? That doesn’t discredit my statement. Burrow also had a much better supporting cast around him in Chase, Higgins and Mixon. He had receivers that could get open early and often when Joe needed them to.
      Also, I stated that Trevor was playing well and had that team at 8-3 in spite of the bad o-line play. It was when he started getting hurt that he couldn’t mask how bad the line actually was any longer.

  • @aaronsondag8347
    @aaronsondag8347 8 месяцев назад +2

    Me with a smug grin on my face telling people I told you so/called it with these QBs. And that even goes for Purdy being successful in the NFL! As a Cyclone fan it was easy to call it on him with me watching him in college. And I am smart enough to know why.
    And no one on here is going to believe me either.

  • @rodriguezclark5913
    @rodriguezclark5913 7 месяцев назад +1

    That was a good episode brother..Mile High Salute from Louisiana

  • @cecilroberts1971
    @cecilroberts1971 8 месяцев назад +15

    Blame the fans and owners. Everyone has lost perspective and patience. They think you have to be a playoff or Superbowl team the year you're drafted if you're a quarterback. If you struggle, then you're s bust. Not realizing what entails playing the position. They look at CJ Stroud and think he has to replicate that type of season while not realizing that that's a rarity.

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 8 месяцев назад +4

      It's not fans and owners. It's the market..after Rookie deals, QBs are expensive. The most expensive contracts with most guaranteed money. Market and cap space pretty much forces teams to make hard decisions after a few seasons.

    • @Nick1994H
      @Nick1994H 8 месяцев назад +4

      The days of developing a quarterback are no more. Even the steelers are moving on from that style. Lost Art.

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Nick1994H steelers cant develop a QB to save thier lives. they failed kenny and mason...fields is next

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 7 месяцев назад

      QB's who are drafted shouldn't start at least for the first 8 games, they need time to settle in and learn the plays and the players

  • @Jj2kallday
    @Jj2kallday 8 месяцев назад +2

    11:02 best description of Zach Wilson I’ve ever heard

  • @Jhosen461
    @Jhosen461 8 месяцев назад +20

    No discussion on Davis "The Neck" Mills who started a whole season? Smh perna

  • @that_chem_guy
    @that_chem_guy 7 месяцев назад +1

    6:27 shows you just how insane JF1 is. Dude literally only needed a team. I genuinely hope he does amazing in Pitt.

  • @erichhanning2039
    @erichhanning2039 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think it's worth pointing out that all QB's drafted in the 1st round from the 2020 draft are all starting in this coming season. This could be more exception to the rule though but worth noting. Some teams just suck at drafting too.

  • @liamstraub3394
    @liamstraub3394 8 месяцев назад +2

    feeling good about any QB going to MN, I think KOC understands the toxicity of the position and will be looking to truly develop whatever QB we get.

  • @charlesgallagher1376
    @charlesgallagher1376 8 месяцев назад +2

    Bills went through 26 QB’s in 20 years between Kelly and Allen. Been loving the drama from the outside.

  • @pursang6792
    @pursang6792 8 месяцев назад +2

    Mac Jones regressed with Matt Patricia as OC and Pickett had Matt Canada. Let's see if either come back once they get to play with a competent OC.

  • @veldrensavoth7119
    @veldrensavoth7119 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’m glad somebody finally brought it up

  • @musoehcr
    @musoehcr 8 месяцев назад +5

    It’s because qb contracts got out of control. Can’t win when one player cripples your cap. Unless you have mahomes.

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings 8 месяцев назад +2

      There should be a top player cap of not more than 10% of the team CAP.
      The QBs are robbing the other players.

    • @musoehcr
      @musoehcr 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@pigdroppings seriously. The massive gap of pay is downright criminal. All these new rules and how the league panders to qbs doesn’t help either. If the league pushed for more rushes and defense you’d see a a more spread out cap.

  • @metalcrip89
    @metalcrip89 8 месяцев назад +1

    Matt Corral looks to get a shot to start Saturday afternoon for the Birmingham Stallions or at least platoon with Jmar smith for starting snaps. I'll be interested to see what he can do!

  • @Blank-jt3nj
    @Blank-jt3nj 7 месяцев назад +9

    Sam Howell deserved better

    • @K1forMVP
      @K1forMVP 7 месяцев назад

      Howell sucks

    • @riseofthesugars5312
      @riseofthesugars5312 7 месяцев назад

      He’ll get a chance in Seattle.

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john 6 месяцев назад

      Sam turns the ball over way too much. He’s nothing more than a decent backup.

    • @K1forMVP
      @K1forMVP 6 месяцев назад

      @@kc1john SEA Fans are convinced he’s the spawn of Joe Montana, Montana 2.0

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john 6 месяцев назад

      @@K1forMVP Geno is better than him and turns the ball over a lot less. That tells you all you need to know about Sam Howell.

  • @nickseckler
    @nickseckler 8 месяцев назад +1

    Tripped me out seeing Roger Goodell say 2021 in Brandon Perna's voice

  • @SpankinYaBoy
    @SpankinYaBoy 8 месяцев назад +9

    I still think Trevor Lawrence will be a top 5 qb... I just don't think it will be with the Jags.
    I mean, there are some teams that always seem to have a good QB and some teams that have never had one... It's not a coincidence...
    Drafting is only half the battle; the other half is properly developing your young QB and building your scheme around his strengths.

  • @scottybbadd
    @scottybbadd 7 месяцев назад +1

    Some mocks had Malik Willis going 2nd overall. I said if they took him and not Aiden Hutchinson, it would be the most Detroit Lions move possible.

  • @clarkvaughan
    @clarkvaughan 7 месяцев назад +1

    Most rookie QBs need to sit. Mahomes sat. Rodgers sat. Jackson sat. The Manning brothers and Matt Stafford are the exception, not the rule.

  • @diegodelcid2235
    @diegodelcid2235 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ironically, the guys who've benefited the most are the mid-level/journeymen QBs (guys like Minshew, Brisett, maybe Flacco) since teams seem so trigger happy with moving on from the young ones when they're not working right from the start.

  • @mjgasiecki
    @mjgasiecki 2 месяца назад +2

    In my opinion, Trey Lance is the biggest draft bust in nfl history if you look at the whole situation. 3 first rounders sent to Miami to get him and he did absolutely nothing. I understand the draft picks the 49ers lost didn’t hurt them super bad but just think what they could have done with them.

  • @josephpearlman4010
    @josephpearlman4010 3 месяца назад +1

    I agree with Mac Jones on the coaching changes stifling his growth. Look what Alex Smith went through his first 5 seasons. They went through 3 head coaches and 5 offensive coordinators. It wasn't until Harbaugh came along that they found out he was actually very good. I always thought that Aaron Rodgers would have been destroyed by that instead of the star he became if he would have been drafted by the Niners.

  • @berkle
    @berkle 6 месяцев назад +1

    Watching this a month later makes this so much funnier

  • @keaganpalmer8058
    @keaganpalmer8058 7 месяцев назад +2

    The best two QBs were taken 522 picks apart from each other

  • @TravynYt
    @TravynYt 6 месяцев назад +2

    “If we see 5 qbs taken in the 2024 draft im scared ill be making the same video in 2 years” -fast forward to 6 qbs going in the top 12 with 2 outrageous reaches and qb where nobody knows why people really like him

  • @nsn5564
    @nsn5564 8 месяцев назад +10

    Trevor probably the biggest disappointment compared to the decades-long hype for him right from high school.

    • @TheForbidden_1ne
      @TheForbidden_1ne 8 месяцев назад +6

      Right. So far he's a "just ok" NFL QB. Certainly has not lived up to any of the hype

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 7 месяцев назад +1

      You have to take into account where he is and the weapons he has.
      If Trevor was on a good team with weapons and a decent O-line then he would be a top 5 QB

  • @alexfioretti3291
    @alexfioretti3291 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why do I love the way Perna says Kenny Pickett so much

  • @devenconnelly6865
    @devenconnelly6865 7 месяцев назад

    It was crazy my freshman year of HS playing against Carson Strong to him now medically retired

  • @rediknight9056
    @rediknight9056 8 месяцев назад +1

    I saw “Busty” and I was wondering if I was on the wrong dang app.

  • @YourUpperLip1
    @YourUpperLip1 7 месяцев назад

    I use that Space Jam reference all the time when I’m talking about someone reaching 😂

  • @mydogvlad
    @mydogvlad 7 месяцев назад

    Love the content, keep up the awesome work!

  • @johnwormwood2858
    @johnwormwood2858 8 месяцев назад +12

    As one those much hated Vikings fans i still love your content. What your saying here is exactly what ive been trying to tell people. Its my personal feeling that Denver may possibly end up looking like draft day kings down the road by ending up with the 5th or 6th QB. If you look at the last 20 years of drafts you have almost as many hits in rounds 2-5 as you do in the first. The highest draft position would probably be Josh Allen and he wasn't even taken in the top five. All this trade up and qb run talk feels like insanity. Maybe the nfl should rename this years draft to "your hitting yourself, quit hitting yourself, why are you still hitting yourself?"

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings 8 месяцев назад +1

      A NFL team drafting a college QB is like a crap shoot....
      ......with four sides of the dice showing...'snake eyes'.

  • @Ill06Taco
    @Ill06Taco 7 месяцев назад

    You say the worst thing for a QB is changing coaches/coordinators. Would be interested to see a video on all the coach turnover for Justin Herbert throughout college and NFL

  • @BWeManX
    @BWeManX 26 дней назад

    10:25 I think you really hit the nail on the head there. Teams always seem wowed by QBs "awesome college production" and stats...and it's like well yeah half of CFB games have videogame numbers. Can they play accordingly when the other team is much better than theirs? XD

  • @dfrnt_hues
    @dfrnt_hues 7 месяцев назад

    People forget how many guys don’t work out. If there’s 5 QB’s drafted in the 1st chances are only 1 is Great, 1 is good enough, other will be hated by their fans or traded by 2026

  • @stephen84987
    @stephen84987 7 месяцев назад

    From what I’ve heard from people in Oxford, Matt Corral has had some real struggles with his mental health. Took a year to find himself. It seems like he’s back on the come up and I really hope he can succeed in the UFL and maybe move into a backup NFL role. He’s a good dude who I hope can find success.

  • @chrissimmons9743
    @chrissimmons9743 8 месяцев назад +1

    9:34
    What a helicopter move by Zach Wilson

  • @ethanhoard7738
    @ethanhoard7738 8 месяцев назад +2

    3:42 that’s not his draft evaluation, it’s his 1:1 artistic representation of Trey Lance’s hair.

  • @SnuggieMaple
    @SnuggieMaple 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s kinda funny to think that if the Panthers weren’t terrible that Justin Fields might still be in Chicago

  • @aidanhendricksen4832
    @aidanhendricksen4832 8 месяцев назад

    I saw a Zack Wilson jersey here on the slopes of keystone when this came out

  • @EsotericSyncretism
    @EsotericSyncretism 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember everyone saying Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be the best prospect in generations. He has definitely not lived up to the hype.

  • @carl7667
    @carl7667 8 месяцев назад +1

    Crazy I really thought at least 3 of qbs from the 21 draft would've been superstars by now

  • @larrymcardle
    @larrymcardle 8 месяцев назад +1

    Do you remember when you were pissed that the Broncos picked Patrick Surtain over Justin Fields? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

  • @Zay-y6m
    @Zay-y6m 8 месяцев назад +1

    Broncos might honestly be smart to trade up for a qb. Next year there’s a high chance Shedur goes number 1 overall, but also a high chance he pulls an Eli if they draft him

    • @tim6454
      @tim6454 8 месяцев назад

      I feel like Denver should sit back and get a QB they like when they get a chance. We are in rebuild mode and it's going to take a few seasons to get out from under that cap so we need to be hoarding all future picks at this point. Besides Denver obviously can't pick QBs so we'd probably wiff anyway, better to take a chance later where just as many star QBs have been found as the first round.

    • @Zay-y6m
      @Zay-y6m 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@tim6454 there aren’t “just as many star qbs” in later rounds though. There’s only a handful of current starter qbs that were taken in later rounds atm. The broncos are honestly more screwed then any atm

  • @notsomadscientist9602
    @notsomadscientist9602 8 месяцев назад +1

    This draft is gonna be wild!

  • @seanz6274
    @seanz6274 7 месяцев назад +1

    11:26 If you can't beat em, join em Perna!

  • @ryanc.51
    @ryanc.51 8 месяцев назад

    The spread offense and the prevalence of athletic running QBs has made the rookie contract QB a worthwhile investment.
    Additionally, a bad pick doesn't set a team back for 5 years anymore.

  • @garrettodion1972
    @garrettodion1972 3 месяца назад +1

    We actually did beat Zach Wilson in 2021. 26-0 game was in Denver and Teddy B was qb

  • @brobsty1856
    @brobsty1856 7 месяцев назад

    Only thing more usless than a mock draft?? A preseason mock draft!

  • @tonyng1600
    @tonyng1600 6 месяцев назад

    one expert said it before the best way to be draft proof is just to trade down and get as many picks as possible. because most people always get them wrong, thats just how math works. so having more picks will shield you from misses. and rookie wage is so cheap, hitting 1 or 2 is save you like 10-15m a year vs veteran pros.

  • @jonldavis
    @jonldavis 8 месяцев назад +1

    This message should go out to the Raiders.
    Don't sell the farm for your QB.

  • @cqholt
    @cqholt 8 месяцев назад

    As a North Alabama alum, I am happy to hear their name on your channel.

  • @DA-yl8js
    @DA-yl8js 8 месяцев назад

    I'm tired of hearing people tear into BYU's schedule that year. They were at least playing DI teams, unlike North Dakota State. The problem was that the Jets saw his pro day and drafted him purely on arm talent, he should never have been taken that high unless the Jets had someone to have him sit behind for a year

  • @BuckFieri
    @BuckFieri 8 месяцев назад +1

    Perna out here trying to convince teams that draft before the Broncos to not draft a QB

  • @paullittle9187
    @paullittle9187 7 месяцев назад

    Wow! I had absolutely no idea Wilson built his college reputation on that weak of a schedule. I don’t even recall that being a reason for caution in the run-up to the draft.

  • @UrbanRally
    @UrbanRally 8 месяцев назад +1

    ball thrower is too nice, these dudes do nothing but chuck arm punts

  • @richardvillafana8111
    @richardvillafana8111 7 месяцев назад

    Great video. Subscribed.