Enclave Research Outposts - What Were They Doing? - Fallout 3 Lore
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Enclave: you know why I pulled you over?
Wastelander: I’m just trying to take a rad bath, leave me alone.
Enclave on radio: suspect is refusing to comply, deadly force authorized.
That about sums it up
Sounds like chicago.
@@madscientistshusta that's LAPD
The reason why the Enclave acts that they’re seeing the creatures for the 1st time is because most of their previous data in the west was most likely destroyed either from the NCR & BoS who wanted the data, or from the nuking of the Oil Rig (most likely both), forcing them to start from scratch. And yes, the 9 stars on the terminal is probably just a limitation issue.
except the enclave took their research from navarro and went to raven rock before colonal autumn was even born. it's possible a lot was lost when the oil rig went boom, but they've had plenty of time to get the simple stuff back.
Hello fellow wastelander
I'm thinking that the original Enclave members from the Oil Rig and Navarro took information from their time there to Raven Rock, only this information was either lost or got corrupted somehow, possibly when inputting the info into a different terminal or Eden deleted the info not knowingwhat the outside world was like.? Anyway this would have been taken by people such as Colonel Autumn's father, but as the original members died off, this information that was corrupted or deleted would have been spread down through word of mouth, and then slowly got mixed and matched over time to the point that the new Enclave scientists and soldiers would have no clue about what these creatures were.
I mean regional changes could also mean regional diseases and what not. Best to check either way.
Pretty sure that's Junk FINGER. Very different from Junk Flinger. I imagine it's a wasteland parody on Gold Finger.
Zansi he’s the man, the man with the detritus touch! I’ll show myself out now....
Enclave, “We do what we must because we can for the good of all of us. (Except the ones who are dead)”
For the people who are Still Alive. Nice reference. :)
But there’s no sense crying over every mistake
Whats the reference?
@@lazymansload520 you just keep on trying till you run out of cake
Ian Mecklenburg
And the science gets done, and you make a neat gun
anyone else notice that the mini nuke was floating next to Oxhorn when he was reloading the Fatman
BugTHESDA Graphics for ya.. =D
He invested in Int so much he learned telekinesis!
Now I'm not saying anything however, after using the command /tcl (noclip) bullets float for a few minutes just sayin
As soon as I read this it happend XD
Brother?
Next episode: is it moral to kill raiders with mini nuke?
Yes.....yes, it is also a pleasure
Depends.
Is it a mirv or regular!?
😆
@The Nova renaissance its worth 1000 caps to me
Hell, I find it moral to kill them with a ripper when they run away. I’d sneak attack them with an armor piercing rifle with explosive ammunition if I could. Honestly, using a mini-nuke just feels too humane. Even with the MIRV.
@The Nova renaissance i find it better to sell the eucles c finder to children.
An interesting side note is that each Enclave outpost is located at the center point of each Enclave Eyebot patrol area meaning that the Eyebots weren't sent out to just broadcast propaganda but to locate and patrol points of interest.
Genus: "habuh??" This. This is why we watch you ox. You've got personality.
Absolutely loved that part
I thought it was common knowledge about the Ants and there Frenzy with the antenna
Yeah I do that to them all the time. Though I can't seem to find anymore 😔. It's weird that the guy who does nothing but fallout videos for years haven't known about that 😕
It is.. I don't know how he didn't know this by now.
I didn't know until well after the game came out that you can hold the button to continuously drink from water sources.
@@DarkDragonDave well that's understandable cause usually you don't know anything about a game till you start playing it. Which is why it's so weird oxhorn doesn't know about the ants
CryptoSeb Yeah, maybe he didn’t remember or something. You get that info when you do the Those! quest in Greyditch.
24:56 the crater here has alien power cells; those may be the “samples” they were sent to retrieve.
I still want to know what the fuck that crater is.. it has weird cone like indents on two sides, the PRIMA guide seems to suggest originally an alien corpse was to be present at Fort Bannister, I'm guessing the Crater was the result of some alien event, possibly a UFO crash that was moved and or recovered from the base sometime before the Lone Wanderer showed up, either by the Pre War US Government shortly before the war or Maybe Mothership Zeta with it's tractor beam.
last time I played Fallout 3 I was using a mod that let me have my own faction and bring soldiers from that faction with me. I took them to all of the enclave outposts in the wasteland and made dure to leave behind just as many of my soldiers as there had been enclave soldiers making sure the area was safe from future enclave troops by turning their own outposts against them. For the Rho outpost, I just left a person to replace each of the turrets.
The White Springs Enclave were never able to make contact with Raven Rock. IIRC, White Springs thought the hard line connecting the two bunkers had been cut. Its possible Raven Rock was isolated, and lacking any information about the surface, they didn't open their doors until survivors from the west coast contacted them. That would explain why the Enclave scientists don't know much about the surface
Nah, the comms systems were down at White Springs or something. They couldn't contact the Oil Rig, Navarro, or RR.
raven rock was in contact with navarro and the oil rig, though. that's how john henry eden became president. most people from navarro had traveled to raven rock before colonal autumn was even born. there is 0 reason for the enclave to not have any knowledge on the capital wasteland already. it wasn't like the enclave was shut in raven rock this entire time.
Oxhorn: "So what did we learn"
I dunno, the fact that Bethesda is so buggy, that one body couldn't decide what to do after a mini nuke explosion? XD
Flying Body: "Bye have a great day!"
I wouldn’t say this is the first time the Enclave saw these creatures, but I’m willing to bet the specific Enclave members who wrote those entries probably never saw them up close before.
God bless America. God bless the Enclave.
KKK fan ?
@@thestrange6561 no just patriot.
@@Enclave_Engineer then explain why you created the Scorchbeasts and the Scorched Plague. APPALACHIA IS DEAD BECAUSE OF YOU!
@@firstoffproductions1462 this was not main Enclave chapter. Oil rig lost contact with ground all stations.
You are the the exact OPPOSITE of what the American Government once was! You bastards killed several innocent wastelanders, who were just trying to survive, and who you claim to be ''inpure'' completely oblivious to the fact that simply walking outside, your soldiers are exposed and compromised. Not to mention that your ''Mission'' was to exterminate all mutants, but you use DEATHCLAWS to slaughter your enemies! Care to try and justify that? You all have ruined the honor and pride of America. You all deserve what happened to you at Navarro, and the Oil Rig.
Order: huu
Family:whaa
Genus:hubua
You got me whit those sentences
Oh yeah, the mole rat thing. If I remember correctly they were a US military program. They were supposed to be dropped on China to upend infrastructure. They also had a kill switch built in to them, which Moira accidentally reproduced to cause the head exploding effect.
There is a terminal that talks about it somewhere in the game. But for the life of me I cannot remember which, maybe one of the terminals inside the outcast base?
Possible explanation for Enclave seeing these creatures for the first time could be that after the war some sectors remained underground and lost contact with the Enclave faction above them. The reason they are not at war with each other is because they are bonded by a strict moral and fraternal code, similar to the modern military or the Free and Accepted Masons of our time. I will assume that in our time, if stricken by chaos, both factions will not turn on each other after they are able recognize their code of arms or insignia.
If what I stated is true, it would also explain the terminals are inconsistent.
When you kill a superior it’s called getting fragged
Actually, the "Scylla Serrata Horrendus" name comes from the Lone Wanderer after passing an Intelligence check, after you complete the part of the Wasteland Survival Guide quest that has you investigate Mirelurks! Which (ideally) happens before the Enclave come into the Capital Wasteland. So coincidence or the Enclave officer has read the Wasteland Survival Guide and... plagiarised!
yeah. if you raise INT to 7.
Nice attention to detail, I remember that.
Wolves (canis lupus) and dogs (canis familiaris) are technically the same species: canis lupus. This is because they can interbreed and produce fertile young.
agreed. same key sequences in DNA code.
Technically, and technically not. Dogs are genetically considered to be a subspecies of Wolf, since they are similar enough to breed, but different enough to not be the exact same. There are big differences in how they behave and tolerate humans, you can't train a wolf to be a police wolf or drug wolf or anything because their wild instincts make them almost untrainable and very unreliable.
Zes Good point. But a subspecies is not exactly the same as a different species. It’s still understandable how Bethesda would report a dog as canis lupus.
Fallout 2 Enclave Explainations from Mikey Boy: Different sections of the enclave are represented by different symbols (at time flags with different stars) R&D for weapons = 15 stars studying irradiated materials = 9 (field research) etc think its Gruthar that has the dialogue option if you praise the enclave and he goes into a myron rant
Black facilities = no symbols such as live experimentation etc
I SERIOUSLY want in fallout 5 the ability to side with Enclave. It could be like you have to do SERIOUSLY horrible things that the Enclave tells you to do, but in the end you DO end up Rebuilding part of America the way it was before the war, leaving you and your moral compass to decide if it was justified.
I dont mean to be "that guy" but I highly doubt that in FO2 the Enclave gatling gunners were like "meh" when they were wiping out an entire vault worth of people.
: ) just saying
Spiffy Gonzales me too man, me too
So we just gonna forget you can technically join the Enclave in Fallout 76?
@@firstoffproductions1462
What we are going to do is acknowledge that fallout 76 never existed.
If I remember there's a big Enclave Base in Chicago..that's where Fallout 5 should take place
@@spiffygonzales5899 yeah, that's fair
I'd be interested to know if Autumn was planning on continuing the persecution of "genetic noncompliant" populations, or if that was something Eden was keen on.
I maintain that Autumn's plan- to use the water purifier as a bargaining chip to establish the Enclave as a local authority figure- wouldn't really work if the Enclave just killed all the wastelanders afterwards. Autumn's Enclave wants to build an empire, and you can't build an empire without citizens.
(Also, I'm not sure "hypocrite" is accurate re: them using Deathclaws as weapons. "Cleansing the America of mutants" and "using mutants to kill other mutants" aren't mutually exclusive, after all. Additionally, Deathclaws were ORIGINALLY a pre-war genetic engineering experiment that the Enclave experimented with extensively in the past, so they might get a partial pass as, I dunno, "reclaimed ordnance" or some such.)
The kid in Grayditch tells you that you should shoot them in the antennae. It indeed frenzies them.
And the V.A.T.S tutorial messages at the beginning of the game suggests it
13:25 It could be a reference to the movie "Them!" where the scientist tells the police to target the antennae. I'm sure you're already aware that the mission "Those!" in Grayditch is an obvious reference to "Them!".
Do you guys ever wonder if the brotherhood will have a civil war between chapters, that would be an interesting storyline
J Man not as long as Elder Maxson leads them To ViCtOrY.
Prydwen rocks up to the Chicago chapter: "Hey guys, finally found you! Welcome back to the fold! Now let's start off with some personnel changes. . ."
Civil war ensues.
I mean in new vegas a group of rougue brotherhood knights attempt to kill courier and veronica who are both brotherhood.
@@anthonytokar3961 I mean, what if the East coast brotherhood decided that the west coast brotherhood wasn't "pure" enough and tried to purge them
@@jman5675 that would be dope. Or they fought inside themselves split between two fellas who wanted the title of elder. One wants the brotherhood to be more goodie 2 shoes.. the other wants more power and technology. So they split and attack eatch other
I saw Genus Pandinus in concert once, they were pretty good
That Hwuuh that Ox did just made me laugh so much
Hey, Oxhorn, speaking of the Enclave, if you do another Mod Muster for Fallout 4, you should try the America Rises mod, it’s an incredible mod that even complies with the XO-3 and XO-2 mods for the Xbox/Nexus, which yes, the mods came first. And believe me, I’ve played through the quests 3 times and the Enclave faction made in Fallout 4 made me feel so good to take on new dungeons and restore the Enclave with new faces and General Ward, Corporal Fitzpatrick, Dr. Kane, and Sergeant Peterson, Who actually plays a prominent role within the game and becomes a companion. (Btw, if you thaw them out and don’t do the quests, they’re not considered Essential so you can also just kill them and take General Ward’s outfit and a couple others. If you do, enjoy the mod like I did.)
I think he should wait with it until 2.0 because the mod is not content-completed
I still love the mod no matter which version is. It allows me to experiment with different outcomes, and I have ideas constantly. >:3
I always loved raiding those Enclave outposts.
yeah thank you for the info but why doesn't the Brotherhood or the Outcasts wipe out the remaining enclave outpost you know for the tech.
east side brotherhood is scared of high tech
Lack of available resources likely
@@My_name_is_A2 yeah but the Outcasts has the power to take out atleast some outpost because you know they keep the technology for themselfs
@@barisbilen7401 I figure they have enough Enclave tech from Raven Rock and the missile base or whatever. They had to have gotten all those vertibirds in Fallout 4 from somewhere. That and the tech to build the Prydwin, all probably leftovers from their battle with the Enclave. I don't think they're scared of tech Lyons had just deprioritised it a bit.
I think in lore they eventually did just that. I know I’m Broken Steel there’s a post- main quest random encounter where some Enclave troops frag their CO and hope the outcasts will show them mercy. They do not.
8 stomachs!? Damn imagine how complex the cheese you could make with renin from calves with 8 flippin stomachs!
"Sure, the world was bombed to hell but the cheeses are AMAZING."
*ChEeZe*
You should do a mini series covering different unmarked locations that have little environmental stories, like the Grayditch sewers or the wasteland gypsy village.
Oxhorn reading «???» is the funniest thing I heard today. 14:45
You know what, it must be extremely hot and humid in the Fallout universe, since those were the same conditions the world was in when giant insects existed before...
I wish you could join the enclave in fallout 3 would have made a great edition
Addition cha
There is a type of fly that "shoots" its eggs at spiders, if I'm remembering correctly. Not sure what species.
Boatflys I guess
I love Enclave lore and never saw this one in your list till now, even though I've followed you for some time now. Interesting lore for sure! Yah I didn't understand the Deathclaw thing either but neat to see they were able to control a few of them. Wish 76 did more with the Enclave. Maybe in the future.
Enclave: Use everything to our own advantage, no matter how ironic or immoral the way is.
Also Enclave: Blast first, ask never.
I think the Enclave could help the wasteland a lot if they would work with the BoS and other factions to help humanity flourish in the wasteland
There was a ditch that held the bodies of the wastelanders, Junk Finger was a raider and Spookia was a ghoul. The bodies however may not appear due to glitch or time passing.
I would also like to add that the truck near Old Onley was supposed to contain a dead feral and 2 other wastelanders
Yep good to see you doing Fallout 3 lore Oxhorn Keep it up my friend you’re doing great 👍
Enclave Trooper 101 ATTACK PATTERN GAMMA!
Robert Smalls roger that . 10-4
POSITIVE ID ON TARGET!
Enclave out here aren't as friendly as those veterans telling their war stories.
The Courier Yes thank you for the advice it’s a mean cold world out there but I think being positive and happy and showing some kindness can go a long way in life even if people are jerks in this world you kill them with kindness anyway you have yourself a good day
There's one on the bridge adjacent to that scrap town on the Highway thingy. It doesn't have much, but there is a terminal, which I remember reading then immediately forgetting what it said.
Unfounded theory time: the 9 stars are the 9 primary Enclave hubs. 1, Oil Rig. 2, Raven Rock. 3, Whitespring. 4, Vault Control (Cheyenne Mountain Vault 0?). 5-9, ??? (I would think these would not include fall-back outposts or small tactical or logistical hubs).
Matthew Neuendorf I bet another one is Navarro
1:11 doing push ups in power armor is about as effective physically as "running" a marathon on a motorcycle 😂
Hey in a world of chaos and radiation and deadly mutants raiders and alot of untrusty people i would thinks its kind of okay that the enclave is doing some cleaning around the wasteland
The Enclave will give the people of the wasteland a brighter future over the horizon through the sights of a plasma rifle.
Agreed
This is interesting to note the amount of scientific correctness of Biological Classification done by Enclave Research Outpost. In today's world, all of the species noted exist and the evolutionary mutations showed are quite realistic. I would love to make a video on the evolutionary correctness in Fallout series.
Can Bethesda please make a fallout game where you can choose to join and help the enclave? One where they’ve learned from their past failures and have changed? I’m not saying I want them to be generic good guys maybe some good and some bad. I just got want them to be generic bad guys
Yeah more fallout 3 and thank you for doing more videos on the enclave. Great video
So the Rho chip is basically the RFID of the Fallout universe.
which is odd because those already existed pre-war, so i don't know why they would need to test it.
Hey Oxhorn I got a question:
Ya got plans do an episode on Dogmeat, one of the most reoccurring characters in Fallout?
Be a weird one from a lore perspective. Technically, they are several different dogs with the same name and some similarities.
Unless you believe the theory that the Mysterious Stranger was affected by an artifact from that ancient/alien civilization (like the dude in the Asylum) and Dogmeat was the Mysterious Stranger's dog and also affected, so now he is an immortal, super-intelligent canine who controls the destiny of the world by helping important people.
Sen Howler woah dude never thought of that
@@paulpaulington3907 He was finished helping you and wanted to move on to the next hero in need so he faked his death.
Sen Howler Ah, I can see that happening.
@@senhowler IIRC Dogmeat (Fallout 1)'s canonical death is from being sliced in half by one of the laser fields in the master's base, so... Dang he must be a good actor. :B
I've encountered a member of the Enclave on the very first day in the Wasteland. I went to Super-Duper Mart for Moira and decided to head to Springvale. Lo and behold, I got shot by one of them where the outpost should be.
Its supposed to be a bug introduced by broken steel I think. Ive encountered them too
There is a terminal in a grayditch house that relates to this. Check it out sometime Ox.
Nobody:
The Enclave: *It's free real estate*
Get in the liberty prime, Sentinel!
I didn't see you find it. It's a little hard to find but you can find all the body's in a ditch off the road kinda hidden by bushes that were listed. When I found them it was sad and sickening.
Ox: sees cockroach
instantly blows them up with a mini nuclear warhead.
14:43 hubuah?
made my day
Mole Rats were actually mutated before the war. They are one of the many FEV projects that have escaped into the wastes. Amazing video Oxhorn. I love the Enclave in spite of their flaws, I feel with the right leadership they could do great things for the wasteland.
Entomology nerd here 🤓 . In the mirelurk entry- the 2nd "c" in chelicerata is pronounced like an "s", and "chitinous (developer typo [they spelled it 'chitnous'" as in chiton, is pronounced like titan. Great work, loved this video!
I hope if there's a next fallout the enclave appear from space with newer tech and maybe we see more of the zetan aliens
Moon base!
if they had a moon base, why wouldn't the president be there? there is no way they would be listening to a robot in raven rock if they had a moon base.
Although unconfirmed. Even as a kid. I always assumed that this Enclave chapter had come from a Vault of some sort. Maybe near a facility or under a facility that was remote. With a lot of the equipment they would need to “rebuild” America. I had expected it to be in The Commonwealth. That’s kind of one of the reasons it disappointed me that they had basically no relevance in Fallout 4.
I wonder if there wasn't an Enclave bunker (or vault that's not a Vault) in upstate New York for the elites in NYC to flee to.
Three stages of amnesia as explained by our lord Oxhorn
14:40 😮
14:42😯
14:44 🤯🤯🤪
"But where did they find so many soldiers?". Well fallout 2 took place over 30 years ago, and we know that they do recruit wastelanders so long as they aren't mutants, plus Raven Rock and the several additional installations that the enclave occupy would give them plenty of room for population growth.
So they are a mix of west coast veterans, possibly any remaining branches or outposts (vertibird refueling sites or bunkers like we see in whitesprings, raven rock may have even had it's own garrison), descendants of enclave personnel (they had some 30 years to replenish their ranks), and wastelander recruitment(They had a small basis of support among the wastelanders, so they likely recruited those who were pure humans.)
The Enclave is always missing important parts of the story. I'd argue that the wild mongrel is a result of coywolf breeding. Look up coywolfs if you don't know what they are. Basically wolves crossed with dog/coyote mixes. Making a new canis species. It is insane what these animals can do.
14:40. Ox voicing “????” Gold
Oxhorn: talks in a low clear voice easy to understand
Also Oxhorn: [clip where he fires of the minigun with great intensity. Waking up every neighbours I have in miles around me]
As a palaeontologist who does a bunch of work on taxonomy, the pronunciation of those scientific names made me wince quite a few times haha
In my gameplay in the last Outpost covered the soldiers were still alive and that one that was dead in front of the container was burning some bodies. The radscorpion took care of those guys in this video
have you ever done a video about just vaultec itself? like whatever happened to them? after still somehow kinda monitoring the results of the experiments they did?
Something that I don't think was ever addressed was how do the giant bugs/flies breathe? Either the air is really oxygen rich or they've developed some kind of lungs because that's the real life limiter on invertebrate size, if an ant was the size of a pony then it wouldn't be able to absorb enough oxygen to supply it's brain and muscles.
26:45 Dear Lord, Ox! You headshot that guy with a Mini Nuke! I love it, do it again.
Hey Ox remember me from Friday you cheered me up when i had a bad day i just want to say thank you.
Whats the shader that Oxhorn uses for his Fallout 3?
I thought it this was a Fallout 4 video until I saw the title.
You're spot on with the Mole rats. Naked Mole rats are common pets for some reason
Did anyone else realize that an Enclave Hellfire trooper yelled "My leg!" When Dogmeat bit him? Even though he's wearing _Power Armor?_
Hearing him convey the "???" entries in the mirelurk section was hilarious
I like to imagine that the guy writing the entries on the Wasteland Creatures is just an Enclave Steve Irwin
Every 15th footnote does *not* require an ominous voice tone.
Trade mark ? Sure ✔
Necessary ? Nope 🚫
Annoying ? You bet ! ✔
9:15 that table must have done something bad to get imprisoned
I’ve always liked the over-the-top nature of the Fallout series, so watching you do things like using a mini-nuke on a single raider who hasn’t even gotten out of bed is just... yumm
I’ve been playing fallout 3 recently so when I saw this I was really surprised
Also more enclave is more gear
i do think theses outposts are for both securing land in the name of the enclave and scientific research or both its just my thought on this
I love your use of mini nukes I always collect them and never seem to use them 🤦🏻♂️
a note on the mongrels evolving from wolves, you have to take into account the fact that alot of dog breeds requirea huge ammount of care and some breed cant pyshically (gross!) reproduce with the other due to hight issues, most dog breeds will have died out by this point with only german shepards and there relatives survivng into the future its possible also that wolves dogs and purebreeds have cross mingled to the point of evolutionary change
Again great video, good work. I think there are research outposts because when raven rock is destroyed the ones on these outposts don’t know about that and they continue to do their work OR they are retreated enclave who trains itself for the end of the war
Oxhorn the Fallout God didn't know giant ants can be frenzied?! That's actually crazy considering the antennae are the closest part of the ant to the player.
Loving these follow up videos Oxhorn, providing more of your unique insight and analysis of the game lore!
I think the enclave could help the wasteland a lot if they would work with other factions like the Brotherhood of Steel to destroy Super Mutants and Ghouls and just in general use their resources and knowledge to help humanity in the post war USA
But that was never the goal of the Enclave.
I love your videos on Fallout 3. It's my favourite game of all time.
Pretty sure the flags are supposed to be the 49-50 whatever it is and the 13 star ones, limited by ascii
AAAAAAHHHHH He's got a board with a nail in it.
Maybe the difference between flags is code for research type: 9 stars means Fauna research; 15 stars mean Tech experimentation/ site investigation and no flags is a checkpoint... or it just means lack of coordination
It’s a shame Bethesda didn’t go more the route fallout new Vegas goes and allow you to actually join the enclave like with the legion. It would have been so cool to explore raven rock and these outposts as a non hostile and get to talk to them and hear their opinions and their side of what’s going on. For all we know they could be like a lot of NCR troopers and don’t agree with these orders or tactics but are just falling in line because they have to.
You don’t really join them though, you just convince them to fight for a faction, or kill them
Maaan... if fire ants go from tiny with a painful bite to huge with flame throwers... imagine what would have happened if it was Bullet Ants that they descended from...
I feel like the 8 stomachs of the Brahmin might be a misunderstanding on the entry makers part.
It may be that they have 2 stomachs, with a cows stomach normally having 4 chambers.
I think.
Might be wrong.
The stars on the flag are arranged in a skull pattern at the outpost that talks about Brahmin and flies
That missile glitch is hilarious 😂
Glad to see someone else is here 2021 lol