The Rise And Fall Of The Enclave

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2024
  • In this video, we cover the lore of the Enclave from the pre-war, through the events of Fallout 2, Fallout 3, and it's DLC Broken Steel.
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Комментарии • 227

  • @theneocypher
    @theneocypher  12 дней назад +1

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    • @meatworkshop4740
      @meatworkshop4740 7 дней назад

      bro i just realized youre the guy from the imperium radio mod in nv i love that mod it made me do a whole legion playthrough

  • @CyberController-
    @CyberController- 4 месяца назад +327

    Screw Biden vs Trump, let's talk Ward vs Whitehall

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +26

      😂

    • @user-sz2yi6hj2l
      @user-sz2yi6hj2l 4 месяца назад +33

      I would vote for any american president who would agree to say "God bless enclave... and nobody else" and sent me the video of them saying it.

    • @rahovartiv3464
      @rahovartiv3464 4 месяца назад +22

      Realistically whitehill is definitely the more moral option but I picture some very dangerous long term problems with siding with her. #1 high command will more than likely find a way to go behind whitehills back to get their original plan going again and or cause a qu of some kind to get rid of whitehill all together. Frankly with siding with whitehill keeping dr kain alive is to dangerous imo because of this. I don't picture high command attacking the whitehills division just because of how weakened they already are but I wouldn't trust high command at all to not try something.

    • @Grimpy970
      @Grimpy970 4 месяца назад +3

      Oh god, this comment is like a breath of fresh air

    • @thebluemidget4909
      @thebluemidget4909 3 месяца назад

      True

  • @Jkrocsko
    @Jkrocsko 4 месяца назад +131

    America Rising 2 is actually my CANNON continuation of the Enclave. AND WE HIT BACK BABY LETS GOOO

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +18

      Me too! Its so well written and fits into the setting if Fallout 4 so well!!

    • @Bludgeta9001
      @Bludgeta9001 2 месяца назад +4

      I side with Whitehall. She actually makes the faction not completely evil ( possibly an Anti hero faction).

    • @alexthedemon2203
      @alexthedemon2203 2 месяца назад

      @@theneocypher There is actually a mod in a game called hearts of iron 4 where you play as the enclave and recover after being defeated at Navarro from the New California republic and the brother hood and you can choose a reformist path in which you can restore prewar America by invading the waste and restore order and democracy to the lands if you have the game or have heard of it you should try it

    • @HairryTurttleneck
      @HairryTurttleneck Месяц назад

      Dude I have to play that now 😂

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Месяц назад

      Canon

  • @Mr_Gman19
    @Mr_Gman19 4 месяца назад +217

    I've always viewed the Enclave as the sins of the old world coming to haunt the new one

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +26

      Same

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 4 месяца назад +17

      That's a great way to phrase it.

    • @walterfijn3586
      @walterfijn3586 4 месяца назад +12

      God Bless the Enclave! 🇺🇸

    • @Neutral_man
      @Neutral_man Месяц назад +4

      I love you california, youre the greatest state of all

    • @joshuasurdu5029
      @joshuasurdu5029 Месяц назад +5

      I’m with you on that I agree completely the proof of all the very bad things the Enclave has done in every fallout game especially in Fallout new California and Fallout 3 paints a clear picture of how their goals never really died with the old world they only changed.

  • @KillZoneHart1
    @KillZoneHart1 Месяц назад +72

    I'd love to see a Fallout game start you out as an Enclave member and it be a redemption story.

    • @matthewlayne5151
      @matthewlayne5151 Месяц назад

      Sounds like a fantastic idea

    • @FaustianDaydreams
      @FaustianDaydreams Месяц назад +6

      What did they do wrong?

    • @KillZoneHart1
      @KillZoneHart1 Месяц назад +9

      @@FaustianDaydreams they need to atone for big pepperoni nipples by getting gyatt enlargement serum for the wasteland survival guide

    • @matthewlayne5151
      @matthewlayne5151 29 дней назад +3

      @@FaustianDaydreams exactly

    • @deadshot4245
      @deadshot4245 29 дней назад

      ​@@KillZoneHart1Moiras on page 66

  • @evalpenguin8797
    @evalpenguin8797 Месяц назад +24

    sometimes, in the dead of night, i can still hear his sreams... asking... where is my power armour

  • @UnhingedJessie
    @UnhingedJessie 4 месяца назад +128

    Theres only so much you can take as a based enclave enjoyer before you have to go full legion.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +33

      🗿

    • @UNSCMarathon777
      @UNSCMarathon777 4 месяца назад +28

      True patriots never back down to support such low down ideals, forever shall the stars and stripes wave!

    • @tagekoolander
      @tagekoolander 4 месяца назад

      Shut up defeatist!
      Never surrender!

    • @Blackifunny
      @Blackifunny 3 месяца назад +2

      @@UNSCMarathon777🇺🇸🗿

  • @warlordsam
    @warlordsam 4 месяца назад +47

    “Honey it’s time for the Brotherhood to beat the Enclave again because good guy main character plot armor Liberty Prime gunship weapon” -Tom, probably

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +8

      It just works

    • @Free_Palestine_419
      @Free_Palestine_419 4 месяца назад +9

      Bugthesda and Todd Howard's writing at its best LMAO. Fallout New Vegas is still better than all of Bugthesda's games combined.

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Месяц назад +1

      Emil*

  • @ikeduno7973
    @ikeduno7973 4 месяца назад +29

    13 minutes in I subbed. This is written in a very late 90s post apocalyptic style. Legit af. Awesome.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +4

      Thank you so much! Welcome aboard 💪🏻

  • @Mrniceguy-xv7ib
    @Mrniceguy-xv7ib 4 месяца назад +54

    I am still sad your not allowed to join the enclave in Fallout 3. You coming from a vault makes you more suited for joining them than the average wastelandder, It's just one big messed up plot hole.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +34

      Seriously though. The Enclave in Fallout 3 is written in a way where it would be logical for you to join them. I wonder if the devs had it as an option during development.

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz 4 месяца назад +3

      Well the enclave murdered your character dad so not happening.

    • @gatorking4953
      @gatorking4953 4 месяца назад +10

      @@Alex-pj8nzhe killed himself

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz 4 месяца назад +3

      @@gatorking4953 Because he wants to deny the enclave the project

    • @gatorking4953
      @gatorking4953 4 месяца назад +8

      @@Alex-pj8nz autumn was gona do the same thing the brotherhood did. He may not of know that that’s fair. But the enclave did not directly kill him

  • @davidponder1654
    @davidponder1654 Месяц назад +11

    Could you imagine being the enclave officer getting football nuked by your factions old playtoy. Thats mad disrespectful

  • @AGS363
    @AGS363 4 месяца назад +77

    The Enclave is like the future of the NCR; only with far less Cringe and far more Tech.

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 4 месяца назад

      Basically all it takes is for them to get an evil President elected and ghey will either crumble from a civil war or just eb Enclave 2.0

    • @eugeniaamariei8626
      @eugeniaamariei8626 4 месяца назад +3

      The cycle of America.

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr Месяц назад

      Enclave is way more cringe than the NCR. Just killing people just because and hating those that werent in their group despite being from America.

  • @jonf4287
    @jonf4287 2 месяца назад +7

    I know other people get tired of them, but I always love Enclave content. I dont care how many times we have to beat them, keep bringing'm back!

  • @_SemperFidelis_
    @_SemperFidelis_ 4 месяца назад +58

    I feel like the Enclave is going to make an appearance in that Fallout TV Show which I'm not looking foward to it.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +17

      Lets hope not

    • @UnhingedJessie
      @UnhingedJessie 4 месяца назад +8

      It'll be the frontier all over again.

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 4 месяца назад +5

      Depending on the time period I'd be fine with it.
      But tbh I'm hoping they do something new.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 4 месяца назад +6

      According to interviews with Vanity Fair the show is set a decade after Fallout 4, so they shouldn't be in the NCR since they were defeated 50 years prior.

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 4 месяца назад +5

      @@kingofhearts3185
      Ah. That makes sense. Curious about the brotherhood then. East coast chapter maybe? Perhaps even... the Midwest chapter?

  • @dantewilliams2757
    @dantewilliams2757 4 месяца назад +13

    Hey man just wanna say your now one of my favorite fallout RUclipsrs. You’ve got a great career ahead of you keep even half this quality

  • @FrankHorrigan203
    @FrankHorrigan203 4 месяца назад +4

    videos like these about fallout are freaking awesome man keep it up i've seen so many channels this one is one of my favs.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much! More to come!

  • @oleksandrkojemiakyn
    @oleksandrkojemiakyn Месяц назад +2

    Your usage of the Delay effect is absolutely hilarious 😂

  • @crusader2112
    @crusader2112 4 месяца назад +10

    Another great video. 😎👍
    Have you played the Old World Blues Mod for Hearts of Iron 4? It’s a fun mod and there’s an Enclave sub-mod and one of the options is reform. It’s great.
    Hail to the Chief, President Douglas Granite!

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! And I have not yet. Its on the list!

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 4 месяца назад

      @@theneocypher 👍

  • @ClydeC
    @ClydeC 4 месяца назад +3

    I love the way you deliver the lore.. you just gained a sub

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much! Welcome aboard!

  • @DK_0455
    @DK_0455 4 месяца назад +8

    The Enclave will always live on! God bless America and God bless the Enclave!🇺🇸
    Fallout did the Enclave dirty in a real battle the Enclave would have beaten Lyons Pride and Fallout should’ve let the Lone Wanderer join the Enclave🥲😔

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +3

      100 percent agree

    • @anirecapped.
      @anirecapped. Месяц назад +1

      In a pitched battle?? Absolutely!! But in a protracted war of attrition?? Enclave would have absolutely zero chance. The Brotherhood will grind the Enclave into dust through attrition.

  • @derbirider6646
    @derbirider6646 18 дней назад

    Great video! Loved it!!!!

  • @knightpaulman4686
    @knightpaulman4686 Месяц назад +6

    Negative, citizen. The Enclave is not dead yet. As long as we draw breath the Enclave will live, and through the Enclave, America.

  • @cyberman179
    @cyberman179 4 месяца назад +8

    Another NeoCypher banger!

  • @jordanmagpiebullet7978
    @jordanmagpiebullet7978 4 месяца назад +1

    Amazing job centurion NeoCypher hopefully you are doing good and keep them coming

  • @xray0302
    @xray0302 4 месяца назад +2

    Gotta love seeing a new upload

  • @ericaking5214
    @ericaking5214 2 месяца назад +1

    Just found this channel and I love it.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  2 месяца назад

      Thanks so much! Welcome aboard!

  • @Just_Kylo
    @Just_Kylo 4 месяца назад +1

    I've been hoping you'd do a video on this

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад

      Me too. I have been wanting to make a video on the Enclave since I started the channel!

  • @mcpossum
    @mcpossum 4 месяца назад +1

    Another amazeballs video! Editing skills are *chef's kiss*

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      You're the best! Thank you!

    • @mcpossum
      @mcpossum 4 месяца назад

      @@theneocypher Anytime anywhere

  • @echo5226
    @echo5226 14 дней назад

    Very entertaining narrative.

  • @kreevisful
    @kreevisful 4 месяца назад +2

    I am 19:51 in, and I am a new *SUBSCRIBER* and *BELL* notification member
    #GangGang

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад

      Thank you so much! Welcome aboard!!

  • @brothers_of_nod
    @brothers_of_nod 4 месяца назад +4

    Fighting hard for something that was gone long ago

  • @sydryi3086
    @sydryi3086 Месяц назад +1

    the Whitesprings still stands, so the heart of America still Beats with Modus.

  • @HawkMcbride
    @HawkMcbride 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video! Would love to see the Enclave make an appearance in Fallout 5.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      I wonder what Bethesda would do with them

    • @John-rn1nm
      @John-rn1nm 4 месяца назад +3

      Given what happened to Starfield. If it's ever made, they would be only cartoon ishly evil and somehow very politically correct.

  • @VaccaVanni
    @VaccaVanni Месяц назад

    Man sounds like Ulysses. Gotta love it

  • @georgemurdock7670
    @georgemurdock7670 4 месяца назад +5

    Bro where did you get those scenes? They look cool af

  • @jaretbradley9869
    @jaretbradley9869 29 дней назад

    Your voice is like watching a Fallout History Channel. Good shit

  • @basedchicana1776
    @basedchicana1776 4 месяца назад +7

    I always enjoy a nice video about the good guys

  • @Furrnox
    @Furrnox 10 дней назад

    With it now being canon that they show up in the Commonwealth (and the show), it's really starting to feel like, and "somehow" the Enclave returned.

  • @iceteasergi5744
    @iceteasergi5744 4 часа назад +1

    but in fallout 4 the enclave is still alive, there are quests to destroy them though.

  • @poownsnipes
    @poownsnipes Месяц назад

    What's the song at 7 minute marker? Please and thank you

  • @mcpossum
    @mcpossum 4 месяца назад +3

    Ave, true to Neo ❤

  • @DR.ExE7
    @DR.ExE7 3 месяца назад +1

    Now all we need is a ranks video plz brother hook us up.

  • @universome511
    @universome511 4 месяца назад +6

    The GOAT of Factions

  • @enclaveofficer2305
    @enclaveofficer2305 Месяц назад +2

    Acording to the new show, the enclave is still around

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  Месяц назад +1

      If only they elaborated on them more in the show. I feel like they were used as a convenience and then wasted. Hoping for more Enclave in season 2

  • @villings
    @villings 4 месяца назад +1

    whoa what a video!
    youtube recommends the good stuff sometimes..

  • @aaronwagner4017
    @aaronwagner4017 4 месяца назад +3

    I’m down for a resurgence of the enclave

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +2

      One Enclave, One America 🇺🇸

    • @greywolf9783
      @greywolf9783 27 дней назад

      ​@@theneocypherhell yea

  • @Smoochmygoober117
    @Smoochmygoober117 Месяц назад +7

    Enclave armor with the 44 mag goes unbelievably hard

  • @armandduarte4193
    @armandduarte4193 10 дней назад

    This background music… where is it from ?

  • @Sleepy_DOOD1701
    @Sleepy_DOOD1701 Месяц назад

    Bro threw in clips of the hulk 😂

  • @banze4542
    @banze4542 Час назад

    didnt know kratos had a lore channel

  • @B00tyWarrior
    @B00tyWarrior Месяц назад +1

    I actually think the new show makes vault tec the real big bad, it's likely that although they worked together to get the project done, vault tec viewed the enclave as opposition as vault tec wants to be the only faction.

  • @johnnynnyL
    @johnnynnyL 4 месяца назад +1

    F3 Soundtrack goated

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      🔥

    • @johnnynnyL
      @johnnynnyL 4 месяца назад

      ​@theneocypher I'm trippin how I barely found you channel

  • @tim_5183
    @tim_5183 16 дней назад

    song at 9:30?

  • @TheRealQuackisBlack
    @TheRealQuackisBlack Месяц назад +1

    Eden was a fanatics of the enclave. Autumn was reformer enclave where he knew the old ways are dead and had to accept reality. Same as the BOS did in broken steel. Water was how to bring people in. The east coast BOS accepted wastelander in their faction that’s how they kept their numbers. West coast disown the east coast because of that. If it wasn’t for elder Lyons policy. East coast BoS would have died off and the reformers would have won uncontested.

    • @anirecapped.
      @anirecapped. Месяц назад

      And then Bethesda just killed off the entire line of Lyons off screen.

    • @greywolf9783
      @greywolf9783 27 дней назад

      I wish Eden was still waiting... I'm just waiting for someone to find it. Believe it and bring America back together.

  • @tyronethurling1976
    @tyronethurling1976 Месяц назад

    Dude sounds like Ulysses and three dog some times

  • @Bludgeta9001
    @Bludgeta9001 2 месяца назад +2

    I wish they'd remake Fallout 1 and 2 with 4's engine.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  2 месяца назад

      God same 😩

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Месяц назад +1

      Then they would be totally different games and lose everything that made them special

  • @FirstLast-gk6lg
    @FirstLast-gk6lg Месяц назад

    God damn I want a 4x grand strategy game SO badly, where I a can control one of the many factions across the wasteland and work to control the whole continent

  • @lawrencefish791
    @lawrencefish791 4 месяца назад +1

    Alright a great day when we get a new video

  • @matthewlayne5151
    @matthewlayne5151 Месяц назад +1

    Fall? Bro you act like me and the homies don’t have shooters out in the wasteland

  • @dalesanteford7432
    @dalesanteford7432 Месяц назад

    Fallout 4 America rise mod feel like it made sense with your character with The Enclave more than any other fashion in the game what's your male character being a former US Army soldier you would be sitting there with the enclave you're trying to learn what everything is going on in this change in different world from what do you remember

  • @matthewlo55
    @matthewlo55 22 дня назад

    Enclave doesn’t have enough credit

  • @naszirboyd9950
    @naszirboyd9950 Месяц назад

    Enclave have most aesthetically pleasing looking piece of power armor while being powerful and durable for users. That is second to none ! In this wasteland besides the T-65 I guess.. with fallout 76 😅

  • @Tuxedo512
    @Tuxedo512 23 дня назад

    somehow the enclave has returened

  • @HiRhyssGaming
    @HiRhyssGaming Месяц назад +1

    In my fallout universe the enclave never fell

  • @ghostsstarwars1929
    @ghostsstarwars1929 3 месяца назад

    I wouldn’t say, gone, or extinct they are still around like Chicago Hawaii and Anchorage or in a underground secret bunker in new York including some navy fleets at sea so i wouldn’t say gone or extinct they just pulled back

  • @PinEthan
    @PinEthan 4 месяца назад +4

    enclave.

  • @obengrupperfuhrerheinrichv7230
    @obengrupperfuhrerheinrichv7230 Месяц назад

    The next fallout game needs the enclave as a joinable choice and the big bad.

  • @lilmoris1
    @lilmoris1 3 месяца назад +2

    Anyone with logic, would support the Enclave.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  3 месяца назад +1

      🇺🇸

    • @lilmoris1
      @lilmoris1 3 месяца назад +1

      @@theneocypher I am from Mexico, but the Enclave was always right

  • @Davedsmith9585
    @Davedsmith9585 3 месяца назад

    10:05 HMM?

  • @TheCabalPit
    @TheCabalPit Месяц назад

    I saw that "Why the Fuck does my pee pee not work" comment lol

  • @johnnynnyL
    @johnnynnyL 4 месяца назад +1

    Of time , time ,time ,time 💀

  • @mattyice2099
    @mattyice2099 Месяц назад +1

    FALL of the enclave?? Who said they were gone?

  • @colemine1560
    @colemine1560 Месяц назад

    Honestly I’d love to see the enclave return and some BS reason for Horrigan to return, idc it would be sick

  • @sepd1110
    @sepd1110 29 дней назад

    Enclave here

  • @beastyjaygaming5188
    @beastyjaygaming5188 19 дней назад

    Just the fallout 3 enclave depiction you’ve shown just proves fallout 3 is underrated when it comes to 4 and nv. Definitely better than 4 people are wack

  • @Geo-Global-oz5kl
    @Geo-Global-oz5kl 2 месяца назад +1

    The Enclave and the Legion might be larpers, but they do have. What the NCR and the Brotherhood don't, is the mighty *DRIP* and not being a cringe Technocracy and Democracy.

  • @eugeniaamariei8626
    @eugeniaamariei8626 4 месяца назад

    4:57 AI image?

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +1

      It might be? I pulled it off google. I know for sure the picture is of agent smith from the matrix.

  • @Canadianbricks1914
    @Canadianbricks1914 4 месяца назад +1

    Did you get paid the bos to make this video?

  • @weebslayer3411
    @weebslayer3411 Месяц назад

    Seems Bethesda is bringing them back

  • @CuckoldRat
    @CuckoldRat Месяц назад

    God bless America. God Bless The Enclave

  • @seanboyize
    @seanboyize Месяц назад

    WHY WON’T TODD LET US JOIN THE ENCLAVE

  • @loyalty.is.its.own.reward
    @loyalty.is.its.own.reward 4 месяца назад +1

    The Enclave shall rise again! 🇺🇸

  • @lochmana1176
    @lochmana1176 4 месяца назад +1

    Autumn did nothing wrong

  • @stickmandrawing1140
    @stickmandrawing1140 Месяц назад +1

    The thing ive never understood is why the brotherhood is apparently the good guys when overall they are no better than the enclave and you see it in fallout 4 when they became the thing they tried to destroy in their own way. And the brotherhood imh should have died out by now. And god they just force the brotherhood down your throat like... Sausage... Gets forced down mia khalifahs throat. And its annoying they even just SHOW UP in fallout 76 for no reason other than the brotherhood is bethesdas favorite faction.

    • @anirecapped.
      @anirecapped. Месяц назад

      Because Brotherhood of Fallout 3 is a world apart from the Brotherhood of New Vegas and Fallout 4!! You have to play the games to know the difference.

    • @stickmandrawing1140
      @stickmandrawing1140 Месяц назад

      @@anirecapped. I have played the games and yes they are alot different but in fallout 3 they are at least semi good guys but there is a DRASTIC change between three and four within such a short time span and the brotherhood in there are technicaly shunned by the west coast chapter until they revert back because they abandoned their mission. Fallout 3 is the only time the brotherhood are redeemable because in every other game they have their own interests in mind completely no matter what and the same can be said for the enclave. If you think about it both arent too different just one is made to be cartoonish evil and the other is made to be more discreet about what they do aka the brotherhood

    • @anirecapped.
      @anirecapped. Месяц назад

      @@stickmandrawing1140 Ok and your point being?? And no, if I really think about it, the Brotherhood under Elder Lyon was the polar opposite of the Enclave or their West Coast keens!! And no, they were not semi-good, they were undeniably good and kind, to the point where they were hurting themselves in order to safeguard the capital wasteland!!
      Countless knights and even paladins were lost to rid the wasteland of the super mutants and the likes and for what?? What they had to gain for themselves in doing so?? The answer is nothing.
      Now, if that does not count as good in your book, then you and I have very different definitions of that word.

    • @stickmandrawing1140
      @stickmandrawing1140 Месяц назад

      @@anirecapped. I meant the ones in fallout 3 were but the actions in one place and this applies to the enclave as well because ultimately in fallout there is no one "good faction" but the actions of the brotherhood in F3 were good what i meant though was overall it doesnt amount to much when they also left without leaving much for people to hold onto. And yeah they did a lot for the capitol wasteland but they left to go to boston after they made the airships out of adams air force base and that led to less caravans being able to suply that water to inland towns like megaton. Ultimately the region was established which is a common theme between most factions including things like the ncr. The brotherhood arent at fault necessarily but after command structure changes after the death of the lyons it went right back to its west coast counterpart.

    • @anirecapped.
      @anirecapped. Месяц назад

      @@stickmandrawing1140
      *_because ultimately in fallout there is no one "good faction"_*
      - And that's where we differ. In Fallout 3, there is clearly a good faction and that's the Brotherhood under Lyons, there are no grey areas in there.
      *_but they left to go to boston after they made the airships out of adams air force base and that led to less caravans being able to suply that water to inland towns like megaton._*
      - That has got nothing to do with Fallout 3 though, because that's Fallout 4 territorry.
      *_The brotherhood arent at fault necessarily but after command structure changes after the death of the lyons it went right back to its west coast counterpart._*
      - Yeah but it's got nothing to do with Fallout 3 and that's my point.
      You have to make this distinction when comparing them to the Enclave because by the time Fallout 4 happens, the Enclave is all but gone and the Brotherhood takes their place as the gang of xenophobic mustache twirling cartoonishly evil zealots.

  • @jeremiahwright4450
    @jeremiahwright4450 Месяц назад

    The rise: old world government returns to claim a now ruined world by wiping clean anything tainted by the radiation and dirty FEV shot into the atmosphere when the bombs dropped.
    The fall: Bethesda's purchase of the franchise

  • @THEGREATKING95
    @THEGREATKING95 2 месяца назад

    F .E .V

  • @FaustianDaydreams
    @FaustianDaydreams Месяц назад

    Bethesda needs to quit recycling ideas

  • @MegaAnonymoussupport
    @MegaAnonymoussupport 22 дня назад

    23:56 I’m pretty sure that’s the exact symbol on the bomb in megaton

  • @r32guy85
    @r32guy85 2 месяца назад

    the intro to fallout 2 isn't canon and didn't happen.

  • @YEGETAone
    @YEGETAone 3 месяца назад

    wrong, the enclave never fell.

  • @spiffygonzales5160
    @spiffygonzales5160 4 месяца назад +6

    I seriously hope that the "enclave is a shadow government" nonesense gets retconned. Its dumb. It's just edgy to be edgy. Let them just be the American government.

    • @theneocypher
      @theneocypher  4 месяца назад +7

      I had thought that the Enclave (in lore) was just the pre-war government until I made this video. It would have been way better had it stayed that way 😂

    • @person9313
      @person9313 4 месяца назад

      they literally were the pre war government in a way, pulling the strings from behind washington D.C and rigging elections

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 4 месяца назад +1

      I mean same shit

  • @WiseOwl_1408
    @WiseOwl_1408 Месяц назад

    Holy 14yr old genius made this. How lame

  • @helpme2883
    @helpme2883 Месяц назад

    The enclave wasn't enclave anymore, just a tyrannical company
    The real enclave would never