I drive a 535i N55 pwg and run MHD Stage 2+ with Stage 3 xHP and it runs beautifully. MHD recently came out with an update that fixes a boost problem with early F-series 535i’s using xHP. It’s very easy to install but it’s worth it. Mods: Burger Motorsports Intake VRSF Upper Chargepipe Evolution Racewerks Lower Chargepipe Racing Dynamics Boost pipe VRSF Larger Intercooler OE (Eldor) Ignition Coils OEM Spark Plugs I hope this helps 🙂 Note: you can keep the OEM boost pipe, however I changed it because for some reason the OEM one would NOT click into place with the upgraded VRSF Intercooler. If you’re gonna go down this route, remove the radiator fan during install because it’s a TIGHT fit.
BM3 stage 1 only zero other mods. B58-340i .....only things that ticks me about BM3 is the stupid lugging around in 8th gear around town partial throttle in comfort. It’s like the trans just can’t wait to slide into 8th gear even at 45mph. Yeah I know xhp can apparently fix or just go into sport mode.....it’s just weird 45mph and 1050rpms! Didnt really do that stock. I think at stock it would stay in 7th. But BM3 makes crazy smooth power. I hit 1/8 mile at 7.9 without LC! I’m probably 12.3 1/4 without LC all with stage 1 no their mods. whatsoever. Whoever said mhd is like the amateurs and BM3 is the pros is right.
from what i have read, bootmod3 vs mhd for n55 and n54 are a little diffent (ots maps) also depends if you have PWG or EWG. Most people with n55 go BM3 especially with EWG most people with n54 go MHD with pwg. with the 2014 f30 models bmw made a lot of improvements for the motors so they can handle the higher boost stage 2 from BM3 pushes out
Spend a little more and get the 440i. The B58 fixes all the short comings of the N55 (cracking intakes, waterpump, valvecover leaks, improved vanos, etc) and unlike the N55, the stock intercooler and intake will support almost everything you're able to throw at it, using the stock turbo.
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, MHD is from Germany, BOOTMOD3 is from Canada. Most people agree that MHD has great maps, MHD is so much more practical to use, and it's got awesome maps as well...
My 2017 BMw 650's factory warranty ends next month, it already burns too much oil. I am wondering if I should stage 1 it.... I am probably gonna trade it in next year, but want still want to buy a tune for it. Would stage 1 on my 650 greatly increase risk of engine damage?
One thing you guys did not talk about is the gear box tune. I hear BM3 does change the way your transmission shift. With MHD, you might want to buy XHP. I hear great feedback about XHP it will be more expensive if you have to buy both than the BM3. I have a F10 with N55 PWG and I can't decide which way to go. I'm still waiting for someone to post a video of BM3 +XHP.
@@eppa8873 I went BM3 and I can't tell the Transmission tune make a difference. Some guys time it with draggy and I think they shave .1 second on a 0-60 pull. I'm more interested into the XHP now but I need to calm down with spending money on the car for a bit.
Everything you said in the entire vid was in the favor of MHD over BM3, and then at the end you choose BM3????? You lost all cred in this vid. Everything you mentioned you can do with BM3, you can also do with MHD. AND, MHD has custom tunes. Which is a million times better than ANY OTS tune. So there's that... MHD definitely gets the win for versatility and half the price.
@@f32matt28 Then put it to the test. contact David Shoup tuning, get a custom MHD tune done for you car, and check out how much better it runs. Put it to the test instead of guessing...
It's just his opinion, relax dude. BM3 has custom tunes aswell, and like Matt says, BM3 is better for F30 (EWG). Edit: As far as I know, MHD doesn't offer a transmission tune, you have to pay extra for that
@@eppa8873 First, what makes you think I was anything but relaxed when I commented? Second, the point is, just because Matt says it, doesn't make it true. In fact, it's not true at all. As YOU pointed out, it's just his opinion. Actual empirical data shows the MHD custom tunes being much better. So use what you want, but don't spew opinions as if they are facts. Some people reading these are still yet to decide. And that leads them in the wrong direction.
@@techtician2726 The wall of text im looking at right now, the 20 something exclamation marks in each sentence and the "UR WRONG, IM RIGHT" mentality that you obviously suffer from tells me you are not exactly relaxed in a random comment section
Hi I’m pushing stage 1 e30 w/ bootmod3 and I was thinking of going to stage 2 with catless downpipes no resenators and hopefully a Valvetronic f chassis axle back. I was wondering if this will be reliable if I have the aggressive settings on stage 1 to max and if I was to be 2 steps below aggressive for stage 2.
Reliability definitely becomes a factor when you turn the boost up no matter what, I think under circumstances it can be reliable as long as you have your maintenance done and keep up with it!
Great informational video. I'm a new F30 owner. My first had the N20 Estoril Blue Msport was unfortunately totaled within a month of purchase. I now own an N55 thats not the B45 blue nor an Msport package unfortunately. However it does have the m sport suspension so that's a start lol. It's Melbourne-rot red with red Interior. Will spend the extra dough on BM3. I wouldn't mind doing doing a full in the future. New subscriber.
Bm3 license can be sold. So after you ever sell it, calculating you get 50% back, its nearly the equal price. You get a free transmission tune with it on some engines 🙂.
Hi there, i am all the way from Recife in Brazil South America, and I really liked your video, very informative and all, thank you for sharing it with us, still think MHD is from German and they are the best.::
You know after creating this video I started to realize how much it boils down to preference, cause tbh they are relatively similar to the untrained eye if your just going for an off the shelf map imo.
@@f32matt28 I had mhd stage 2+ on my 435i a few years ago and I ended up going with mhd again for my 340. I like the ability to flash with my phone and the easy data logging. The resalability of bm3 meant little as realistically, there isn't much of a market. Mhd is good value. The output and driveability edge if any offered by Bm3 over MHD is a bit of a price premium and in the real world for me, didn't justify the price. If one is looking at chasing hp, perfect power and torque curves unicorns, perhaps Bm3 would be better.
Hey man. I’m sorry but, BM3 gives you more power. I’m on MHD Stage2+ and my car is slow af. Ig driven my cousins 435, and he’s tuned on bm3 stage 2. His car spins so much just stage 2 and faster turbo spool. MHD sucks.
That is exactly why you are supporting the wrong mod. Because you have NO experience with them. MHD gives you way more options for less money. It's not rocket science.
@@mactruccsmacktruck1176 nah i been running stage 2+ on my f82 for 2 years no issue an my crank hub not done.....if you want to run e85 then you will definitely need the crank hub done or you will spin it that what i was told by a bmw shop that work only on bmw mostly performance.....so if crank hub not done don't go any higher than stage 2+
You didn’t mention JB4, good. It was messing with my DME, causing faults with my accelerator and brake pedals. Sold it for 75% off. Ran it for a month and had enough bs drivetrain malfunctions Heard jb4 blows engines I’m going for MHD right now Never heard good about BM3 tbh I’m not in it for burbles and pops etc I’m in it for the speed 😬
@@DrGrinsp00n why you say that? I heard a tuning shop had a sign up warning people doing BootMod3...ots funny because I am hearing fear mongering on both sides. Idk wtf to do! Any advise for a 2018 230i B46 + VRSF Downpipe + FTP Charge Pipe + BMS Billet Intake + Custom Axel Back Exhuast. This is a daily with occasional agressive driving. I wanted to go Stage 2, but I am concern for the engine reliability long term. Any advise? I don't have experiences with logs monitoring nor tuning.
@@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth how so? And why not stage 2? Does MHD have the function to turn off the CEL for the check engine light because of the catless downpipe?
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MHD for me I'm stage 2 running high 11sec in the 1/4 with the b58
Just Awesome :: mannnn I’m jealous of you 😂 I want to try out to b58 platform very badly
Great video by the way👍
Same here
0 complains on mhd
@@JustAwesome2020 Seen you feedback on other B58's videos💯
@@f32matt28 just get a N54
I drive a 535i N55 pwg and run MHD Stage 2+ with Stage 3 xHP and it runs beautifully. MHD recently came out with an update that fixes a boost problem with early F-series 535i’s using xHP. It’s very easy to install but it’s worth it.
Mods:
Burger Motorsports Intake
VRSF Upper Chargepipe
Evolution Racewerks Lower Chargepipe
Racing Dynamics Boost pipe
VRSF Larger Intercooler
OE (Eldor) Ignition Coils
OEM Spark Plugs
I hope this helps 🙂
Note: you can keep the OEM boost pipe, however I changed it because for some reason the OEM one would NOT click into place with the upgraded VRSF Intercooler. If you’re gonna go down this route, remove the radiator fan during install because it’s a TIGHT fit.
BM3 stage 1 only zero other mods. B58-340i .....only things that ticks me about BM3 is the stupid lugging around in 8th gear around town partial throttle in comfort. It’s like the trans just can’t wait to slide into 8th gear even at 45mph. Yeah I know xhp can apparently fix or just go into sport mode.....it’s just weird 45mph and 1050rpms! Didnt really do that stock. I think at stock it would stay in 7th. But BM3 makes crazy smooth power. I hit 1/8 mile at 7.9 without LC! I’m probably 12.3 1/4 without LC all with stage 1 no their mods. whatsoever. Whoever said mhd is like the amateurs and BM3 is the pros is right.
from what i have read, bootmod3 vs mhd for n55 and n54 are a little diffent (ots maps) also depends if you have PWG or EWG. Most people with n55 go BM3 especially with EWG most people with n54 go MHD with pwg. with the 2014 f30 models bmw made a lot of improvements for the motors so they can handle the higher boost stage 2 from BM3 pushes out
Yeah thats exactly what Im thinking also, I think mhd works best with pwg as well
I'm getting close to 500hp with FBO stage 2 bm3 EWG
Whats pwg
@@LlLnig pneumatic waste gate
@@mattp9733 mines an 08 i dont know which one i h ave
I’ll have to disagree, I think MHD is better then BM3 in every way , at the end of the day it’s all about power.
Its like MHD is the amateur one and the BM3 the proffesional one that is how u need to see it.
They do a lot of beta map testing (mhd) which is a little interesting considering they let whoever test it for them, its like guinea pig testing lol
MHD stage 1 gaps bm3 stage 1. Both are good tunes. But MHD is more aggressive for sure.
So MHD is bad because its too powerful😹
If ur daily driving u dont want to build a lot of boost
Bootmod3 is from Canadá what’s ? Plus the first one that was out there was MHD then bootmod3 came..Been using MHD and no problems so far…
Looking to switch over from Audi to an f32 435i soon. These videos are very helpful good shit bro
hell yeah! dude you will love it, and thank you!!!!
go 440 won’t regret it went from s5 3.0t to 440 b58 best decision ever made !
Spend a little more and get the 440i. The B58 fixes all the short comings of the N55 (cracking intakes, waterpump, valvecover leaks, improved vanos, etc) and unlike the N55, the stock intercooler and intake will support almost everything you're able to throw at it, using the stock turbo.
@@alfrede.neuman8611 I have an e90 m3 now lol had to stay na on em
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, MHD is from Germany, BOOTMOD3 is from Canada. Most people agree that MHD has great maps, MHD is so much more practical to use, and it's got awesome maps as well...
That's such a moronic ideology. So because the company is from Germany they know all about German Cars? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My 2017 BMw 650's factory warranty ends next month, it already burns too much oil. I am wondering if I should stage 1 it.... I am probably gonna trade it in next year, but want still want to buy a tune for it. Would stage 1 on my 650 greatly increase risk of engine damage?
Get the oil burning issue fixed 1st under warranty.
@@quix99 they just put a thinner oil in it because it was summer. I traded my BMW for a Jeep SRT, anyways.
@@NinjaWarriorDude416 thats some shit out of the 70’s. Makes ZERO sense.
One thing you guys did not talk about is the gear box tune. I hear BM3 does change the way your transmission shift. With MHD, you might want to buy XHP. I hear great feedback about XHP it will be more expensive if you have to buy both than the BM3. I have a F10 with N55 PWG and I can't decide which way to go. I'm still waiting for someone to post a video of BM3 +XHP.
Oh yeah! Great point I’m sure that would spark the interest of many, I may make a video on that
The bm3 transmission tune really makes a difference, I love it
@@eppa8873 I went BM3 and I can't tell the Transmission tune make a difference. Some guys time it with draggy and I think they shave .1 second on a 0-60 pull. I'm more interested into the XHP now but I need to calm down with spending money on the car for a bit.
I have an F33 running BM3 with XHP....
@@eppa8873 please explain. Have you tried MHD +XHP?
Everything you said in the entire vid was in the favor of MHD over BM3, and then at the end you choose BM3????? You lost all cred in this vid. Everything you mentioned you can do with BM3, you can also do with MHD. AND, MHD has custom tunes. Which is a million times better than ANY OTS tune. So there's that... MHD definitely gets the win for versatility and half the price.
Theres pros and cons of each, but I personally do think BM3 suits the F chassis a lot better!
@@f32matt28 Then put it to the test. contact David Shoup tuning, get a custom MHD tune done for you car, and check out how much better it runs. Put it to the test instead of guessing...
It's just his opinion, relax dude. BM3 has custom tunes aswell, and like Matt says, BM3 is better for F30 (EWG). Edit: As far as I know, MHD doesn't offer a transmission tune, you have to pay extra for that
@@eppa8873 First, what makes you think I was anything but relaxed when I commented? Second, the point is, just because Matt says it, doesn't make it true. In fact, it's not true at all. As YOU pointed out, it's just his opinion. Actual empirical data shows the MHD custom tunes being much better. So use what you want, but don't spew opinions as if they are facts. Some people reading these are still yet to decide. And that leads them in the wrong direction.
@@techtician2726 The wall of text im looking at right now, the 20 something exclamation marks in each sentence and the "UR WRONG, IM RIGHT" mentality that you obviously suffer from tells me you are not exactly relaxed in a random comment section
Great video! Any chance you could make a video or explain how to code the rolls Royce chime in your car?
Yes absolutely, I’ll do that today actually
U can use Bimmercode and select the tone.
I went MHD for simplicity
Hi I’m pushing stage 1 e30 w/ bootmod3 and I was thinking of going to stage 2 with catless downpipes no resenators and hopefully a Valvetronic f chassis axle back. I was wondering if this will be reliable if I have the aggressive settings on stage 1 to max and if I was to be 2 steps below aggressive for stage 2.
Reliability definitely becomes a factor when you turn the boost up no matter what, I think under circumstances it can be reliable as long as you have your maintenance done and keep up with it!
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Great informational video. I'm a new F30 owner. My first had the N20 Estoril Blue Msport was unfortunately totaled within a month of purchase. I now own an N55 thats not the B45 blue nor an Msport package unfortunately. However it does have the m sport suspension so that's a start lol. It's Melbourne-rot red with red Interior. Will spend the extra dough on BM3. I wouldn't mind doing doing a full in the future. New subscriber.
Hell yeah dude! Welcome to the channel! And honestly BM3 is an amazing application and its very user friendly so you’ll have a good experience with it
Great comparison video. How about MG versus MHD I only ask since I dont want to drop $600 on BM3. Plus MG is only $212 for licensing.
MG is normally $250, $212 is their black friday pricing I believe.
@@trippkelly5856 oh whoa💯😬 thanks
So any possible answer??
Bm3 license can be sold. So after you ever sell it, calculating you get 50% back, its nearly the equal price. You get a free transmission tune with it on some engines 🙂.
MG Flasher is good, easy to use, my car is powerfull and run fine.
i heard that bootmod3 ots map gives more power is it true?
Yes
Anybody know if I use an MHD unlocker on my m340i can I still tune it with bm3
Good question!!!
If it newer than 06/20, it will have to be Femto unlocked🥲its a little expensive but after that you can start flashing the car.
My friends 440I just got misfire on the track using BM3
Bm3>
And you have a intercooler?
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, If the car is German, I would go with MHD, Bootmod 3 is Canadian…
with the list of "maps" on these apps, how do i know how much boost etc they are pushing? rough numbers?
It tells you on mhd’s website but for boost you’ll need to find a source for that cause they don’t list that for some reason
that or buy the moniter module pack to have live feed of boost and make logs
Hi there, i am all the way from Recife in Brazil South America, and I really liked your video, very informative and all, thank you for sharing it with us, still think MHD is from German and they are the best.::
Informative and straight to the point. Well done.
If your going custom tune... MHD is superior... known fact... have a great day!
EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And why wouldn't you go custom???
Bm3 has great custom tunes aswell
@@eppa8873 Not in the same league as MHD.
@@techtician2726 I'm pretty sure my OTS stage 2 F30 N55 EWG with transmission tune (included in bm3) would give your MHD custom tuned car a close race
Who You got For MHD Customs That Us BM3 users Don’t Actually Have Access Too?🤷🗣
sorry i watched this video and still dont know why you would do BM3 instead......confusing.
You know after creating this video I started to realize how much it boils down to preference, cause tbh they are relatively similar to the untrained eye if your just going for an off the shelf map imo.
@@f32matt28 But MHD allows better maps, more power and their CUSTOM TUNES ARE UNBEATABLE. So why would anyone pay double for BM3????
@@AquaStevae Oh yeah for sure the custom tune capabilities MHD has is insane, but also why is it that MHD is so much cheaper?
@@f32matt28 I had mhd stage 2+ on my 435i a few years ago and I ended up going with mhd again for my 340. I like the ability to flash with my phone and the easy data logging. The resalability of bm3 meant little as realistically, there isn't much of a market. Mhd is good value. The output and driveability edge if any offered by Bm3 over MHD is a bit of a price premium and in the real world for me, didn't justify the price. If one is looking at chasing hp, perfect power and torque curves unicorns, perhaps Bm3 would be better.
@@AquaStevae there’s no stronger OTS F3x N55 map than the current BM3 stage 2+
Hey man. I’m sorry but, BM3 gives you more power. I’m on MHD Stage2+ and my car is slow af. Ig driven my cousins 435, and he’s tuned on bm3 stage 2. His car spins so much just stage 2 and faster turbo spool. MHD sucks.
I mean, you do have a 535i and not a 435i so considering that his car weighs so much less it's obvious that it'll be faster
@@armin9426 I don’t know why your replying to a comment so long ago. And no, I don’t have the 535 anymore.
@@Maleks_B8.5 becoming poor?
that was a waste of time but I think I go MHD
Bootmod3 all day and I don’t even have my car tuned yet 😂
Colby Phillips Fr 😂 I think bm3 is a lot more diverse
That is exactly why you are supporting the wrong mod. Because you have NO experience with them. MHD gives you way more options for less money. It's not rocket science.
So in otherwords... Stage2+ if you got the crankhub fixed lol
Crank hub only effects the S55 engine!
@@f32matt28 forgot that was an f32 my bad. I own the f82 and just been looking stuff up
@@mactruccsmacktruck1176 nah i been running stage 2+ on my f82 for 2 years no issue an my crank hub not done.....if you want to run e85 then you will definitely need the crank hub done or you will spin it that what i was told by a bmw shop that work only on bmw mostly performance.....so if crank hub not done don't go any higher than stage 2+
@@janoi30 ended up upgrading the crankhub cause my turbos failed, so bought full-race turbos (so obviously needed the fix with more power lol).
You didn’t mention JB4, good.
It was messing with my DME, causing faults with my accelerator and brake pedals.
Sold it for 75% off.
Ran it for a month and had enough bs drivetrain malfunctions
Heard jb4 blows engines
I’m going for MHD right now
Never heard good about BM3 tbh
I’m not in it for burbles and pops etc
I’m in it for the speed 😬
Same lol got rid of my jb4 along time ago n went 2 mhd stage 2+
Bootmod3 all day everyday!
Yes!!!!
Yeah, if you want to get beat by allllllllllllllllllllllllllll the MHD cars...
@@AquaStevae AGREED....(MHD) ALL DAY
Mhd gang
I love it
Broke Gang.
You don’t have a down pipe ?
Catless 4” dp
Stop shaking the camera man.
BM3 blew my motor.
Went from 0 issues to a blown motor and lost transfer case.
Sounds like you work for MHD guy
Stage 2? Have Boltons? Which? Which engine? Details please
@@DrGrinsp00n why you say that? I heard a tuning shop had a sign up warning people doing BootMod3...ots funny because I am hearing fear mongering on both sides. Idk wtf to do!
Any advise for a 2018 230i B46 + VRSF Downpipe + FTP Charge Pipe + BMS Billet Intake + Custom Axel Back Exhuast.
This is a daily with occasional agressive driving. I wanted to go Stage 2, but I am concern for the engine reliability long term. Any advise? I don't have experiences with logs monitoring nor tuning.
@@MrVuittonDon go MHD stage 1. Bootmod3 is trash
@@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth how so? And why not stage 2? Does MHD have the function to turn off the CEL for the check engine light because of the catless downpipe?