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The Iconic Patek Philippe Calatrava - A Perfect Gentleman's Dress Watch - Review Of Ref. 3919
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- Опубликовано: 10 янв 2017
- In today's watch review we take our first in a series of videos for 2017 looking at the legendary Swiss brand Patek Philippe. I thought the best place to start would be with their best selling flagship model, the Calatrava. This thin, minimalist iconic manual wind dress watch (ref. 3919) personifies many aspects of the haute horology watchmaker and has an equally interesting story of how it came to be. This understated luxury watch could very well be one of the most perfect dress watches for the modern gentlemen.
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Pure class that managed to resist the larger watch trends of the 1990's. Your review was spot on across the board. Couldn't agree more and if anything is going to maintain value it's a Patek.
I have been a watch collector for a number of years, I have bought (and sold) a number of more expensive pieces, however over recent years my enthusiasm dropped as the costs involved didn't make sense. After watching your videos my enthusiasm has totally been reignited!, whilst I still have a few more expensive pieces I have recently bought a SKX and a Junkers based on your comments. The be frank the quality and design of just these two watches really put the more expensive prices into question in some areas. You Sir, have opened my eyes and rekindled my love for collecting !. Thank you indeed !!!
Should have put it on a NATO just for the fun of it haha!
The practicality of a NATO would be far more than the Patek.
why not a timex
The worse idea, go for a Casio
@@Graphologic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'd rather have 1 Patek than 5 Rolex watches... Love it !
I just watched it live in shop today and is extraordinary watch. I couldn't believe it is so thin and elegant. I didn't realize how much I like it until I watched it live. Great review as always!
See, if you wore the Casio F91W while reviewing the Patek THAT would have been comedy gold...
LOL, if you watch very closely, I wore my "Flighty" during the hands on section ;-)
Thank you, great comment.
Best regards,
TGV
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Great video as always TGV! The 3919 is an absolute dream watch for me and as usual your review does it total justice!
I first saw Calatrava 3919 at Beyer's, Zurich, Bahnhofstrasse, in July, 1985. I lost my heart and my mind there and then ! Calatrava 3919 and it's successor 5119 are THE ultimate dress watches. Sheer beauty and understatement. No wonder that particlar watch is a synonym for Patek Philippe.
Nice review !
Hacking seconds will be available on the up-coming "deluxe" version...
this time was VERY important to remind about the sellotape on the caliper!! hahahaha definitely not my style, doesn't attract me at all. But it's impossible not to admire such an incredible craftmanship and detailed design!! Congrats for being able to put your hands on one of these!
My regards,
João
LOL, totally!!!! OMG my friend would kill me if I didn't say that.
Thank you Joao, I hope you are well.
Best regards,
TGV
The Urban Gentry haha.. Get some plastic ones for a few bucks
Actually I have thank you.
However they don't have the fancy display. The irony is, in my early videos when I used them people complained and said they look "cheap" LOL.
You can never win at this youtube lark!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
TGV, try searching amazon for 'carbon digital caliper' (should give the right thing on both UK and US amazon) and you'll find calipers made from carbon fibre (so they won't scratch anything) for under £10. They are probably slightly less precise than the steel ones, only reading to 0.1mm rather than 0.01, but that is more than accurate enough for measuring watches! Super lightweight too!
Keep up the great work,
John
TGV my caliper is has Carbon Fiber tips and the fancy display, as John suggested, so they don't scratch the watch and the display reading is way easier, specially in a video!
It's easy for anyone to make a video of themselves talking about a Patek Philippe. It's rare to see someone to actually get one in and review. Great Job :)
Very nice classical watch. Doesn't have the size and functions I go for, but because of the quality I still love it. Thanks for sharing. You never let me down.
Monetary value aside, the Patek Philippe Calatrava is a lovely watch in every way. Its beauty is understated.
Thank you, you could not of put it better,
Best regards,
TGV
The Urban Gentry *could not have* sorry to be pedantic but it bothers me.
Peter Shallis pipe down Peter
If I wore this watch my friends would assume I payed it 50 $
i personally never really into watches. as they just tell time. but your videos make me appreciate watches, their history, and its complicated mechanical engineering.
One simple word for the Calatrava. Masterpiece. A great video TGV, amazing to see a Patek on the channel!!
I like Patek for its history and technical achievement, but I rarely find myself attracted to how they look. Thanks for the video and it was nice to see the Calatrava up close.
I admire PP's history and successes and this model is very lovely. However, I'd probably go with a VC or AP or perhaps an independent such as FP Journe or even a simpler model from the Breguet line over this. I can see the appeal though - very elegant and discreet. Ciao, John
Thank you John, I totally agree, don't get me started on Breguet! OMG, what a heritage!
I mihgt have to cover them next, excellent comment as always my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
A lovely example of horological class.
Does not have hacking seconds, is running "almost" within COSC Parameters and costs about 10 000 $! Sounds like a great deal for me :D
hi TGV! I have a Patek Calatrava Ref No. 3425/5 from the early 1970s that I inherited from my grandfather, along with a 1957 Rolex Day Date, an Omega Constellation C, Omega Seamaster from the 50s and 1982 Rolex Oysterdate. but looking at your channel, I now lust after the Seiko's. Thanks for all the fun!
Hello TGV. Great view and indeed a significant watch. I believe this is the first Patek ever reviewed on this channel right? What a mile stone! Congrats.
Also, after serval research I've done. I learnt that Patek actually making their movement "unhackable" intentionally. The reason behind it is they want the second hand keep "tell the passing of the time" even when you are adjusting the minutes and hours.
Nice review as always TGV. I personally like the ref 5196r when it comes to Calatravas. I think it embodies the essence of this line. I also am a big sucker for the vintage Omega Constellation Pie Pan series in precious metals. Pure elegance and class in dress watches. Keep up the good work. Your videos are alway like a visit from and old friend.
is there any chance you could take the glove off when doing wrist shots? It kind of obscures the way the watch would normally look on wrist. not sure if others feel the same way.
thanks for the great videos!!
tynan nida,
Yes, I totally agree with this!
You cannot get a good idea of how the watch looks on the wrist while wearing the glove.
tynan nida no, keep the gloves, it's much better with gloves.
A new milestone in reviewing a PP Calatrava, well done. Enjoyed the history and background photos.
Couldn't agree more about everything mentioned.
top review as always tgv.
keep up the good work👌
Stunning simplicity absolute class this watch is beauty. Making do with my Sinn 104.
An OUTSTANDING piece, nonetheless - I have one ! Nuff' said !
A PP is the Mount Everest of aspirations for many horological folk but I must say that it is remarkable in how unremarkable it looks. Very understated. Unless I could wear it regularly I just couldn't justify it. Even if I was stonkingly wealthy.
I'm with you on your thoughts about it. As a younger man, despite liking the watch I can't see myself wearing it anytime soon. One suggestion; whenever you do wrist-shots you should take off the glove on that hand so we get a better idea of how it looks.
Cheers
I love how the "watchmakers IIII" brings symmetry to the dial with VIII and XII
It seems to me that most of the comments on this particular watch, come from Ford Focus car owners. Dream on, but don’t knock the price of quality.
I’m personally lucky enough to own a Patek Calatrava Amagnetic 1960, bought some years ago. It’s pure class, with its simple classic design and I would not swap it for anything else. I also own two other watches. The first being a 36mm steel/white gold Datejust, worn almost daily since 1980 (a classic now) and a recent purchase of an Omega 300 diver, new addition. A beautiful, dive watch, blue dial, with a blue rubber strap. I think Omega has produced a strong contender to challenge Rolex.
Two minutes into this video and I thought "this is network quality." Great show and production!
Thank you so much Tim, very flattered.
Best regards,
TGV
I don't see how so many people are saying this is an ugly or "simplistic" watch. This is a gentleman's dress watch, not a rapper's blinged-out sports watch.
Unfortunately most people feel they need a super robust watch they can take "desk diving" and for the occasional swim. Same people who think wine is for sissies because they only have taste in cheap beer.
Excellent review my friend. Your videos really are getting better and better (both content and the presentation)! It is an amazing watch.
Thank you!
WOW! things are getting pretty serious, eh?
Well deserved, my friend. Fantastic review for one of the most "pure class" watch out there! Hope you can still get your hands on the other models you mentioned!
Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Michele.
Thank you Michele,
But have no fear, I am still stalking Casio watches on eBay as we speak LOL ;-)
Much more to come!
Best regards,
TGV
Too rich for my blood, but always enjoy your reviews.
Thank you Anthony,
Best regards,
TGV
Love the shots of the Lauterbrunnen valley in the intro - my favourite place on earth.
Patel Philippe is beautifully designed .
Hi TGV - Thanks for presenting what is considered a grail watch for many of us. I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Best Regards, John
I'm in love. I very nearly pulled the trigger on a Patek last christmas. Damn it man, you're giving me ideas again
Haha, thank you Stephen. You certainly have great taste.
Best regards,
TGV
The Calatrava is very conservative rather than boring, it is the preferred choice of the wealthy who are always discrete about their wealth. Rich people like Rolex and the AP, the rice are alway proud to show their riches. A very grand introduction of the Calatrava in typical TGV style, good review with valid points.
Was In Genéve last week. Sadly the Patek Phillippe Museum was closed for maintenance. Hope I get another chance to visit it! Lovely city by the way, and, of course, trully the horology aficcionado dreamland.
Keep up with the excellent work TGV.
Best Regards,
-JA
Hey TGV, thanks for the review. The close-ups of the Calatrava didn't show the 'micro-scratches' that I often see on gold pieces. Does Patek use some special formula for their gold? I noticed that the bezel and the back of the watch both avoid a mirror finish that would make scratches more noticeable.
Thanks again for giving us a look at such an awesome watch.
When do you plan on doing another state of the collection? Can't wait to see how your plans went.
Very soon. In the next few weeks.
It's going to be quite a shock! ;-)
Thank you Luka,
Best regards,
TGV
This is the best intro I have seen in Internet videos so far. Great editing and music!
Thank you so much David :D
Very kind of you to say,
Best regards,
TGV
I own one and love it, the after sales service is fantastic and you get the Patek Philippe magazine several times a year. Probably the most expensive subscription to a magazine on the planet LOL.
How lovely, enjoy Ken. it goes without saying but I will say it anyway, you have impeccable taste.
Thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
Great video! Loved learning more about this brand. Look forward to future episodes. Have a great day
Thank you Brandon, hearing that makes it all worth it!
Best regards,
TGV
I think I'd like a Nomos or Stowa Antea and pocket the difference. Still a very classy watch if you have the coin.
Quite a watch you got there. I love it how subtle the grandeur is. That movement would be a pleasure to service, with the split bridge and all. Of course it takes some balls to touch that :-) Patek makes great watches, but they are clearly meant for people who have more money than they can spend. I once browsed a watch dealer page and noticed a great looking complicated watch and the price was just 590.something. Then I realized that the dot was not a decimal point but a thousand separator and the watch was a Patek :-) I think you got the age right. I'm 22 years older than you and I think that watch is aimed for men of my age. Not me, being a weird hippie, but the suit type.
I love watching you channel during free time at work!
Wow, amazing! Good to see a Patel on the channel.
A truly stunning elegant design. Hope you manage to get to the PP museum, don't go on a Monday as it's closed as I found out in 2015.
I fully agree. I think that glashutte moon phase would be a more fitting dress watch for you. I can't wait to see it on the channel if someone can send one in for review.
I know the rolex Cellini isn't quite as prestigious, but if I wanted a very formal dress watch, the Cellini would be my choice.
Love that thinness! For those who want a simelarly size modern watch, check out the Nomos Club no-date. Can be had new for around 1000.
Calatrava is probably my end goal for a dress watch.
TGV you don't see the justification to spend 10K on a Patex but wjhat about $65000 on a lange?
mario siaven really no comparison between a simple Patek with hours and minutes and a modern complicated Lange.
The Skippie there's no comparison When comparing equal dollar amounts to protect Philippe and a longer Patek Philippe will win every time
besides very few of us in the world being able to afford such luxuries, myself definitely included, money aside, this is one of those piece to admire and can appreciate as a watch aficionado, but not anything I believe most of us would actually want to own... would definitely not have enough occasions to justify wearing this enough.
plenty of nice other things to spend $10K-20K on.. a select number of fine watches and still have change to get a nice camera and lenses to make some photographic art with instead. but, maybe that's just me..
That being said, although maybe not on the same level as this Patek, I have an opportunity to experience a fine dress watch, none the less.
I have essentially inherited what I believe to be a very nice vintage Vacheron Constantin dress watch.. Probably doesn't cost nearly as much as this piece here, but I feel just as elegant, understated and classic. Definitely small and thin in design to house a nice mechanical movement. I can't seem to match the model # to anything I've searched for online, but it's some earlier model of the Patrimony design.. from the 60-70's. It's in great condition and been in a bank vault for a long time.. at least 20 years, maybe 30+?
IDK, great condition, I'd love to wind and see it work, but I've been warned that since it's been untouched for so long, I should probably have it looked over and serviced first before trying to wind and start up the mechanical movement.. there's a chance that solidified oil, grease or whatever lubricant(s) that is inside the watch may have dried and hardened and I might actually cause more damage.
I'm sure to get this thing serviced will not be a small bill, but I suppose it could be potentially far less expensive that repairing the watch if I do something to break it because it's not been used for so long.
Wow what a hallmark for the channel! Next stop Lange!!
lovely watch. It would look perfect on a burgundy lizard strap.
Long time lurker and subscriber. Love your content. Have a moderately large collection. Many by your review recommendations. But the updated version of this watch, the 5119, is my grail watch. I don’t love ostentatious dress watches, and my dailies are divers or tool watches. But this. In a suit. With a great pair of classic dress shoes. Is utter perfection.
Such a beautifuly understated Watch, the hight of luxury yet to the unapreciating eye it has a very humble aesthetic perfect for the modern day gentleman. A gorgeous movement aswell in something thinner than the likes of skagen watches, I'm in love with this watch! On the flipside to this dressy piece where is the best place in the UK to order national straps as my skx arrives tommorow inspired purchase by your channel! loving your work TGV as always and thanks in advance.
Thank you so much, excellent comment and congrats on the SKX.
I am sure you will adore it.
Best regards,
TGV
Nice review. I have one, I bought it new just after they brought it out. I have a big wrist, but this still looks gorgeous. I like the fact it is so understated. For very formal wear its perfect. One of my 'keep forever' watches.
Tommyturtle1961 which model do you have?
Here's an idea for a video - history's firsts in horology: when and by whom were the technical milestones of the industry made!
perfect length of video for a great review! excited for you to get sent a perpetual calendar!
A beautiful timeless watch no doubt, but I dare say that the A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia is more my cup of tea! Love all Patek Phillipe's to bits but if it were my money to spend I would get an A. Lange & Söhne instead (my grail is the langematik).
Great video as always and ofcoruse, a great watch. I will probably never own a Patek Philippe but the 5970 is for me, one of the best looking watches ever made. Hope to see that one on the channel some day.
Also I must say that the intro was fantastic.
Regards
GAW
Beautiful watch.
I really really like this and could possibly swing it later this year. Poll: a. This Patek. B. IWC 8 day moonphase with power reserve and date.
C. Vintage Patek for under $10k
D. Vintage Rolex
I have a vintage IWC cal 89 in yellow 18k that I love.
Thanx!
Amazing to see how this channel is growing!!! The first time I came across it i was immediately a fan, and it makes me happy to see his evolution. The content keeps getting better and better . Bravo Tristano, Keep Going
Thank you Rafael, it would be nothing with out the support of people like you, thank you my friend. Your support is always highly appreciated.
Best regards,
TGV
Beautiful watch. I don't generally like a gold watch but it works well in this case.
I wish you'd looked at the nautilus. I can't help but put that at #1 for me (i know this may be cliched but it just oozes class).
Wow, possibly a new grail watch for me.
Next dress watch for me will be Lange 1. It is also rather simple but has that unique design.
Your views on this watch were all spot on. It is an absolute classic watch,but at the same time I can't help feeling that to me anyway, it seems slightly outdated.
And your right for the money you can get a watch that packs more of a punch in looks and functionality....but that's how far the watch industry has come where we now have so much choice. It's fantastic.
Top comment!!!! Thank you James, you hit the nail on the head.
Best regards,
TGV
This video is pure class. I like the Calatrava but I personally would prefer to buy a Jaeger Le Coultre.:)
Ahh, the lovely Calatrava. One day. One day. Gotta get a Batman subby first, though!
Call it my taste, but that's as close to perfection as it gets in a dress watch. And trust me: my entire collection save my Seiko 5 snk 809 and my brand new (new to me) Tag Heuer 1500 is made up of dress watches.
If only I had the money...I seem to be saying that a lot these days!
Really nice review of this iconic watch.
Liked and subscribed your channel immediately after watching this.
Very well done, greetings from Germany and thanks for your videos. :-)
I have the rose gold with a custom made black dial and i love it.
Calatrava or saxonia thin? - would be going for the Lange myself, fantastic review by the way, really exciting to see a Patek on the channel at last :D
TGV! Good evening my friend.Wow, amazes me how so much can fit in such a thin piece. It looks like it would fit under a nice french cuff dress shirt very comfortably. I have to agree thou, plain and expensive. Who knew ballin could be so boring ! lol!
LOL Spot on SN as always.
Thank you :D
Best regards,
TGV
One of the few Patek watches within reach of mere mortals.
dial looks frightfully like a cartier design (not that this is bad!) I'd love to see a more genuine innovative patek dial design
Wow... why are there so much hate towards this watch?
I'm just baffled the amount of people are comparing this watch to Orient, Seikos, et cetera.
It's a completely different league, materials used, and history.
Did you know that in clocks with roman numerals they pretty much always write '4' as 'IIII' while officially it's supposed to be 'IV'.
This goes for almost very clock or watch!
Little appalachin was at la stella, a different restaurant. La scala was the bonnanos place.
The Rose-Gold NAUTILUS is just the most beautiful PATEK!!
Dear TGV
Thank you, very well planned and informative video.
I know this is Haute Horology,
It could just be me but I find this a little boring compared to the ruggedness and adventure of the dive watches you have reviewed, haha.
Greatvideo. Looking at next grail a perpetual and man the PPs in perp make this on look like a happy meal 🥘 ,pricewise.
I am not a dress watch guy either However that is a beautiful piece and great review. I think you are probably the only one brave enough to basically say a Patek Philippe is not for me.
Congratulations on the first Patek!!!
Thank you Andrew,
Best regards,
TGV
I prefer the perpetual calender for my own. I love the 5327J.
I think this will be my next watch, at least a variant of it. Might be a year before I can realize it because I don't want to part with my 1948 18k yellow gold cal 89 IWC. Or my other watches I'm not good at selling I get too attached. One thing is I need to do research. Because if you do a search of Patek Caletrava you find many variants of this watch that look exactly like it with the hobnail case. The one I get will look exactly like this maybe without display back but small seconds is a must. But u can find this exact look in a Patek starting from about $9k up to over $20k. Not sure if I can explain why I know I've seen it in different sizes down to 33mm up to 39mm but WTF? Definitely need to research before I buy. My wrist can pull off 33mm or even 40mm. (I used to wear a 47mm Panerai now it gets dust I like gold dress watches now.) But the look your watch depicts is exactly what I want to the T. I actually can't get this watch out of my head. I'll be trying to keep it under $13k, as I did see one on EBay for that price that looks great with a small seconds. I have a 14k gruen with a white dial and small seconds the dial resembles the Patek but 3,6,9,12 in Arabic numerals.
classy watch but as you said for that kind of money I would grab a panomatic lunar, vintage rolex date just and a pre-owned sub!!!
Hi TGV,
I have to say this Calatrava might be an icon but I would clearly prefer the more modern iteration like the 5227. And although I like the rose gold version most, I would probably pick white gold instead because it is more versatile to wear. But I'm afraid I won't get in the situation to decide in the near future... ;)
Best regards,
Claus
Claus-L. Müller I think his comments are gone.
Malte Sumpf I've reported the comment and RUclips deleted it.
I was just coming here from the FB Group to come and defend you ;), alas he's gone. I'll keep an eye out in the future to back you up in the future UGWC brother
Jonny Scott Thank you Sir! Good to know I could count on your help. :)
You have my sword, Sir. ;-)
Fine review - thanks TGV. Love the 5119 at 36mm, more wearable for me.
Love that one too, more so for the display back, enjoy your 5119, excellent choice.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Am I the only one who finds patek phillipe to be overrated and overpriced?
Trevor Phillips no
Trevor Phillips If I only had this watch to go by, i would definitely think the same way as you do, as this watch is boringly dull as hell!
Trevor Phillips Yes. Do your research, son.
Trevor Phillips Overpriced? Yes, but so is any luxury watch at the moment. Overrated? I wouldn't say so.
Patek is most certainly a cut above.
Did you build all the model planes? Nice review! Though I tend to prefer sport watches for durability and practicality, I love the pure elegance of this watch. I guess a water resistance rating is beside the point?
Thanks for another great video!!
The watch is so beautiful but very, very conservative. I think, this watch does only match with a taylored suit. Great review TGV!!
Best wishes from Germany
Ulrich
An absolute pleasure.
Very glad you enjoyed it and yes, spot on, the Calatrava with a suit is the absolute business!!!
Thank you Ulrich,
Best regards,
TGV