THESE ARCHETYPAL YU-GI-OH CARDS WERE CRAZY! (just not in their archetype)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2023
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Pankratops: My main goal is to blow up...and then act like I don't know nobody!
I see a man of culture right here
@@lorenzolombardi3369extremely popular vine
My bussy winks for you
Grr
My main goal also to give freebody for my Kashtira friend for XYZ summon, especially go 2nd
Shoutout to Therion "King" Regulus for showing up in every sunavalon pile since its appearance. Bonus points for showing up in every earth machine deck as well
at least he is an earth machine, not a plant
Regulus is my favorite springans card
Also acting like a boss monster in Springans because they have like, 1 searcher that overlaps.
@@Killermudkip1you mean he is your favorite rikka card
@@Illya9999he’s my favorite super heavy samurai
Genuinely shocked that nobody mentioned True King of All Calamities. Then again, I'd probably want to forget about it, too.
That’s because his deck is meant to summon him but just doesn’t do it much because it’s inconsistent as hell.
Several people did. It's just not that interesting to talk about so it got left out of the youtube video.
Verte anaconda being a predaplant. Predaplants not being able to summon it by being locked into fusions for the turn
I said it but didn't make it to the video
They only have 2 cards that lock you into fusions. Its still insanely easy to make in Predaplants.
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex Obligatory "Branded Fusion is a Predaplant card". Preds have *3 cards* that lock them into fusions.
lol.
Did people know Archnemeses Protos is part of an archetype? Don't get me wrong, nemeses would play him, but then you'd be playing nemeses
don't forget nemeses corridor who's only purpose is as material for the link 1 thunder dragon colossus
The Nemeses cards are perfect for this list. Keystone was played in Adamancipator decks at one point and Corridor was super popular in the OCG to make an easy Colossus.
Almost every one of the 7 Nemeses cards is playable but they just never got a second wave of support that makes them a strategy on their own. It's laughable that this archetype that needs cards in the banish pile to do something has no way to get cards there.
@@NolenJacobson hard agree. I'm coping real bad that the generic rank 4 that searches any pyro that's coming out will make flag a valid link engine
Secretly Swordsoul card lol
I did, but it didn't look like they were meant to work together.
The Kaijus are the ultimate example of this. They are all playable due to occasional type or attribute relevance, but they suck as an actual deck.
Yep
Need generic removal or water-locked? Gamaciel!
Countering Bird Up? Gadarla!
Want to make a cohesive Kaiju deck? Good luck.
They're actually really powerful as an archetype, but they're pretty much just vanilla monsters with really good removal without the field spell or Interrupted Kaiju Slumber.
Like, they barely function as their own archetype without the field spell.
The reason why kaijus don’t work as deck is they have only card to make counters. That and you can only control one of them.
Ok but have you ever actually faced one? A kaiju oriented deck can be well and truly insane, their effects are ridiculous. Gamciel is a multi omni negate, dogaran is a raigeki, Radian prints tokens, thunder king is a hard blanket and a really hard hitting dude, kumongous is an insane floodgate, and jizukiru is a conditional negate and pop.
So, I think a good answer for this would have also been the Psy-Frame monsters. Psy-Frame as an archetype exists, but gamma was a splashable hand trap in a lot of decks, and what usually followed gamma was Omega, an absolute house of a generic level 8 synchro played in even more decks than gamma + driver
Omega is even used in decks that don't Gamma, such as Ritual Dogmatika using it as a way to return their ED monsters to send again later.
@LadyTsunade777 Oh, 112%, it got used in every deck that ran Dogmatika Punishment, or could bin monsters from the extra deck as extenders.
Even better in MR4, where it was one of the only cards that would take itself out of the EMZ, so you could make a second extra deck play without resorting to Link monsters
@Smudges00 that's so true, you're spitting raw facts right there.
The saddest part about that is that if your making a dedicated PSY-Frame Deck, the other Psyframes make Gamma WORSE because you won't see it when you need it but you'll see one of the other, much worse and less applicable PSY-Frames instead lol
This is one of my favorite aspect of Yu-gi-oh having no rotation. The ceiling for creativity feels really high. You have 20 years of card releases you can dig through to find the one card that has the perfect synergy in the deck you want to play, the card that will potentially give you an edge. And when you put it in application against an opponent who never even knew this card existed, that feeling is worth it.
Also gives them time to cook up some support for mid archetypes for fun/rogue tier decks... but if the busted support ever gets too generic, it will show up in this video or a sequel.
Mist Valley Apex Avian always shows up in every winged beast deck that isnt its own, and its always a bad time for the opponent when it does.
It also was a staple in pendulum good stuff pre PePe format, since it was a reusable Omni for them
I remember that as well...whenever apex appears bad things happen
In the era where verte was splashed into everything, I started wondering if predaplants would actually play it, as I had no idea what predaplant monsters even do. What kind of synergy could it have with the archetype, what kind of plays would you do with its effect. I was really curious about all of that. So I asked a friend who was known for playing plant decks in general. His response?
"Yeah, of course you play it! You can make Dragoon with it!"
What's even funnier is Verte is ass in predaplants since all their play starters fusion lock you.
It happened to Metalfoes twice. First with Metalfoes fusion being a free discard + draw one and next with Electrumite being the best Pen support.
Those cards aren’t bad in the deck though.
There were a lot of cards that were not bad in their decks but better in others
What they think about those generic card that they don't slap the archetype's requirement for summon
I can't believe the "town bicycle" Baronne de Fleur isn't in this
Fleur is an archetype, but there are not enough Fleur cards to make a dedicated deck.
@@Ragnarok540I feel like there’s a few archetypes like that though
Salamangreat Almiraj sees play in hundreds of decks due to it being one of the best generic Link-1 Monsters in the game...Salamangreat is not one of these decks due to it already having Balelynx, another Link-1 Monster with a way better effect.
The only reason you would want to run Almiraj in Salamangreat is if you opened with Ash/Veiler and Parallel Exceed.
Great example
I'm sure there are others, but to this day I don't use any generic Link-1s besides Link Spider and Almiraj.
@@ThermiteKittylinkuriboh and linguiriboh
Let's not forget Independent Nightingale, arguably the main reason why we can't have generic effect-copying
Yeah Lyralisc aren’t fusion summoning.
Any copy effect should not be easily accessible
@@TheGuyWhoIsSittingyou take that back, my good sir. There's no reason to not play her in lyrilusc. She's a very good target for instant fusion.
@@mokeymokey5666 Here's the thing...just make Millennium-Eyes Restrict instead
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 that's good for sure, but sometimes you just really need the winged beast typing for sapphire swallow and/or wing requital. Being a Lyrilusc for bird strike is nice too.
The funny part about Battlin Boxer Veil, the only reason it's limited to 3 is that Konami has REFUSED to nerf the skill Destiny Draw even slightly, even though it was one of the best skills in the game for a long while
its the thing yugi does in the anime, they can't nerf it.
IMO they should nerf it using the LP requirement… again
Make it require 1500 or less LP to use, maybe even 1000 or less
Konami just doesn't want stall to ever become relevant again, most likely because it's a terrible first time experience to go against. That's why every new, mostly irrelevant, card that could be used for stalling gets limited in some way.
@@matchanavitell that to the people who put the timelords in and their skill that makes them much better…. I’ve lost hours of my life playing agaisnt that deck.
@@matchanaviPlus they allow Lava Golem and most of the kaijus. I guess they love some toxicity in their city.
Trishula, dragon of the infernity barrier is perfect for its archetype. You summon it about 2 to 4 times a turn.
Me and the bois binning Kelbek off Diviner of the Herald in tear format
I genuinely forgot kelbek & his cronies werent part of the tear archetype.
Hell I'm doing it now in a runick build, fountain goes loud when it's live for a draw 3 off your first spell activation
Laundry Dragonmaid. No Dragonmaid deck wants the mills she provide but she can be splashed in other mill centric decks with Dragonmaid Tidying.
Shoutout to these adorable and slightly strange mangas of Laundry and Eldlich that (as I'd guess) spawned thanks to this synergy.
No joke saw Tear use her after Merrli was banned in MD
Magicians' Souls and/or Illusion of Chaos both belong to Dark Magician but are used in any Spellcaster deck or decks that want to mulligan away some spell/traps... So basically any Spellcaster deck.
Magicians souls is my favorite metalfoes card :)
I remember wanting another Selene for my Endymion deck and finding she costed one of my organs. Was pretty confused as she wasn't even amazing in that deck then I saw the Halq combo with her
Its one of those trivial optimal things too where the accesscode didn't even come up that often, but what else are you doing with your extra deck slots?
Selene is very good in Endymion tho
Selene is amazing in Endymion, if she wasn't you wouldn't have wanted more than 1
Fairy Tail Snow is what came to mind for me. Dump a whole bunch of cards with Grass and have a Book of Moon on legs.
Almiraj is also a good one. Used in everything that needs their Normal in the GY, yet completely useless on Salamangreat.
Genex Undine is such a stupidly strong normal summon in literally anything but Genex
One of the times u want a card for its cost rather than its effects
In fact, u had to run a garnet for the effect since YGO doesnt have "fail to search"
Genex is now a playable deck thanks to the new support and both Undine and it’s new retrain still aren’t good in it
Uh, Accesscode talker, I mean even till now, you still see people make room for it if they play any sort of link monsters.
So here's a very very very odd archetypal card that'd not a monster that sees fringe play in United Noble Knight. Sword of Sparkles, an X-saber equip card that cannot be equipped by anything in the deck, but has the function of being able to tribute a monster on field to put itself back on top of the deck. So what you do is you use Isolde, get Medraut and then use Sparkles to clear Isolde so you can use Medraut's effect to continue extending. It is... such a weird tech card but it's hilarious.
How would that work? Isoldes effect to not be able to normal or special the searched monster is for the rest of the turn and not while Isolde is on the field, so clearing her does not allow you to summon the searched Medraut, or am i getting something wrong?
@@Oearli You special Medraut off the Isolde effect, sending 4 equips. But Medraut's effect requires that he be the only monster on the field. A funny combo line is Medraut->Borz->Sacred King->Extender->Link to Isolde->Use Sacred King to bring back Medraut->Use Isolde to summon Black Laund->Use Black Laund to pop Isolde for an equip->Use Sparkles to pop Black Laund->Use Medraut again. It's very VERY Niche tech. But it is funny.
@@HavenKhaos that does sound pretty sick
Everyone always makes fun of Dire, but she pulls out some amazing ass edits. Props to you Dire 10/10
Only ironically
We all love
Gofu was like ok in blackwing, but in literally anything that link summoned it was cracked
Also some builds of monarch, you would summon gofu and the tokens, the tribute summon kuraz over gofu, then pop the tokens to draw 2
Vennominaga was what happened when they tried to make a boss monster for the Venom archetype, but the Venom archetype was so awful that people just built decks around her without using any of them.
Except Vennominaga isn't apart of the venom Archetype, it's related yes, but it's jpn Kanji does not contain the characters to count it among the God awful reptile archetype
@@SuperSayianWarrior it's still clearly a part of the archetype even if it's _mechanically_ outside of it, in the same vein that black-winged dragon is clearly a blackwing card for people who love bad synchros
Strange tech in good decks is my favorite reason for keeping the standard format we have. I love when a top list drops and we all get to scratch our heads looking at something like a Vendread in Drytrons lmao
Scorpio/cobra is a funny example because part of Predaplants to begin with is just “we like making fusions happen”
battlin boxer veil is on the list because it basically allows you to use most of the life point triggered skills for free.
Shout out to my best friends rusty bardiche, ancient cloak, and silent boots for giving every dark and/or warrior deck 2 fiendish chains
Plus an extender, I forgot that
Add to that extra xyz fodder and nontuners.
I felt so called out by melffy spright thing, because I actually did put more of them in my deck and called it that.
Batteryman Solar? I don't think it does a lot for Batteryman, but is the best normal summon in Thunder Dragon.
0:07 MBT's Office
6:28 THAT'S SO TRUE! It's actually lore accurate
Ko’Aki Meiru Drago is a great Edison example.
Horrible archetype, but it makes the dragon matchup extremely tricky for some of the best decks.
I remember when Pankratops came out I was snatching as many copies as I could at locals bc everyone just saw it was common so they gave it to me for free and I didn’t want anyone using them against me 😂
That’s pretty greasy NGL
Seto Kaiba moment
@@RanPG stonks
Elemental Hero Necroid Shaman, despite clearly being a Roid monster, saw way more play in Elemental Hero decks(I would presume)
Good point
Platinum gadget deserves a mention as technically a better Union Carrier for ABC because both can't be used as link material the turned they're summoned but Carrier having a special lock on the equipped monster stops it there and Plat Gadget also has better arrows. Ignoring that in an ideal world you'd make Plat Gadget, I:P, and Carrier and using Carrier to give ABC protection
I love how they words
Ash blossom is 6 years old, works in both contexts XD
Time for another TwiX thread
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Don’t make my fave candy worse!
That's actually a really funny thing to call it now
My favorite spyral card is Magician Souls
Duel Links made V Salamander KOG viable.
_Anyone who says Duel Links skills are dumb are objectively wrong._
Black Metal Dragon was splashed in a few D. Link decks.
still is
Adventurer Token was a tier 0 strategy, just not in any dedicated Adventurer Token deck. And then people just kinda... Stopped using it.
Huh, I didn't stop 🤣
Yeah, why did people move on from that?
@@LazurBeemz I think it's because the main reason it was played was as insurance against handtraps, that if it wasn't needed on your turn could make an extra negate on your opponent's turn.
When the handtraps that it was beating (Nib by putting up a negate in few summons before your real plays, Ash by trading 1 for 1 with it without sacrificing a play starter etc) fell out of relevance with decks like tear and kash forcing handtraps like D Shifter (can be shotgunned before the package is live, makes the bounce harder to put online) and Droll (going through the adventure line turns off your ability to search now) the package just didn't do a lot in the meta anymore- better to run targeted hate, like book or the aforementioned handtraps.
@@LazurBeemz it's simply power creep. Decks are already super resilient and consistent by themselves, if you implement the adventure engine you have to dedicate a lot of slots and you lose the effect of your normal, so you either lose consistency or hand traps to get resiliency and higher power. It's currently only used in synchron as a non-tuner engine (cause we don't have anything better lol), but for example if rise heart didn't lock you into XYZ we would play that instead
@@LazurBeemzturns out, 1 omni negate isn't enough nowadays
Absolute crime that magicians' souls wasnt posted
I'm surprised no one mentioned Gem-Knight Garnet. Everyone ran it for Brilliant Fusion.
GK has 6 Normal monsters and the only one that's used is Lapis becuase she's material for Lapis Lazuli
This is why I love Yu gi Oh, basically every jank card can become useful .... eventually
Remember back in the day when everybody and their mother ran Lightsworn Raiko as removal?
damn, even the thumbnail font changed, always expect the unexpected
Surprised Verte Anaconda didn't get mentioned once. Predaplant has cards which lock you into Fusion Monsters, a Link Monster does very little for the archetype. Verte Anaconda is not very good in Predaplant, yet in just about every other deck it was brokenly powerful allowing you to cheat out just about any fusion monster. The fact it's banned in the TCG and OCG, but not in Master Duel remains baffling.
Daigusto emeral, lavalval chain, and m-x Saber invoker come to mind for ED Duel Terminal archetypes as well
I don't know if it counts but Iris Swordsoul is a very playable card in any deck
Black Metal Dragon and REDM too good for their own archetype
dragoon + REF + anaconda as well
Vice King Requiem is insane in DDD though 😂 it does all the same stuff it does in unchained except it can also modulate to be a synchro material for an easy 8 or 10
quietly adds leonidas to my list of potential valmonica cards
FINALLY a "The Office" intro
(Also great vid ofc)
Hot RDA abyss. Most of the resonators are level 2 at least the good ones and you'd play a few resonator chain... but other more meta decks have an easier time making a 9* RDA monster. I actually just wish the non tuner was less generic, shouldve just said Red dragon archfiend like most of the other RDA synchros say.
You'd need the lvl6 (Red Warg) that gets summoned off a lvl3 Resonator.
I use the lvl 8 Hot RDA way more, and it is still has a useful effect. Hot RDA Bane is a good lvl 9. Abyss is comparable how??
When the Drytron deck goes for ZA WARUDO you know you're about to end up in the Yamcha pose with your dignity extracted.
Vendread drytron was one of the most fun decks I've ever played. It had no right being as good as it was
Dire with the 12am upload
AoJ Catastor is THE playground devastator.
The best out was always junk warrior or lightning vortex, but it still dominated so hard, es pecially with the least bit of protection.
My favorite deck is Fur Hires so the fact that they’re an engine in sprights makes me very happy
Many generic links definitely count in this field. Electrumite, Verte, Selene, Union Carrier, Jasmine, Genius, Moon, Plat Gadget, Donner, Dagda, Seal, DDL, Ahashima, Elf, Romulus, Anima, Almiraj, Artemis, Simorgh, Azalea,...
I might be stretching with some, but yeah.
the trishula bit was hilarious
I think a reasonable honorable mention could go to Denglong. Most of the decks that ran him didn't even want to run any of the other Yang Zing cards other than Nine Pillars for a free negate, and he gave basically any deck access to Crystal Wing through Tzolkin if the deck could afford to run any of the main deck True King monsters or most other Wyrms in general. The majority of decks that can make him certainly don't use Yang Zing cards as materials if they can get around it helping avoid running more garnets than necessary but for a potentially huge payoff nonetheless.
Ah, yes, Catastor and Trishula! Members of their own archetypes that I play in T.G., along with Hi-Speedroid Chanbara and, with the new Synchros coming out soon, Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss! Since they're, you know, the well known "other" T.G. cards! Although, who can forget the fake T.G., known as "T.G. Hyper Librarian"!
Might as well mention hyper librarian she was a staple in synchro spam for a decade.
But TG was even at their best mid overall
No one posted Verte Anaconda? It literally locks you out of SSing for the turn if you use it first and if you Fuse first via archetypal cards you're locked out of Linking into him.
I'd say I play pure predaplants fairly regularly, and I'm pretty sure I've used verte one single time ever. I don't even know if it's good in the version that plays branded stuff.
Let's not forget dragoon and enforcer while that's in the mix
Tons of people posted verte in the Twitter thread. It's just not very interesting to talk about, so MBT didn't feature it in the video.
@@ParallelSync Those are actually good in their decks.
The ball of cocaine bit almost Made me spit My coffee lol
Mobile watcher here. Just wanted to say that at the exact moment MBT was talking about Melefic Stardust and said "GK played a one-of Melefic Stardust Dragon, you wanna know why?" an ad start with the opening line "can a game that plays itself really be good?" 😂😂😂
Batteryman Solar is a fantastic example. Sure you could dump a batteryman for all the good that'll do you, but did you also open Hawk? Congratulations on your double colossus titan with follow up.
Dinowrestler Coelasilat is decent in Spright as a lv2 tuner ss from hand for Herald of Arc Light if you don't have melffy stuff
Shock Troops of the Ice Barrier. Nekroz format staple
I almost wish I had twitter, so that when this question comes up, I can talk about Koa'ki Meiru Supplier being whored out to Adamanicipater, but the deck it was SUPPOSED to be made for...can barely summon it. God how did Konami fuck this card up? Oh by giving it great effects, but conditions that make NO SENSE in its archetype even if you only play the rock ones (btw it also railroads the strategy)....thanks Konami...real fucking nice. I hate this card
Obelisk in D Ruler format was my last time in cardboard. Hell of a format.
Afaik Drytron only used Battlelord for the short period of time between Union Carrier being banned and Mu Beta Fafnir arriving, because Union Carrier for Dawn Knight served basically the same purpose Fafnir does now, except a little worse - and without either, Drytron needed *something* to bridge that gap.
... it wasn't great.
Considering this is MBT's thread I'm shocked abyss actor curtain raiser is not on here.
Surprised Verte and Halq weren't mentioned.
In Duel Links Kiteroid is an insane limit 2 card, and has bailed me out mainy a time, and in raging pendulum you can use it to cover the cost of Pendulum call, meaning you trade 1 of your 2 direct attack protections for keeping your cards already in your hand, making Pendulum call have more value then normal since you're already getting scales or a scale and Xyz material
Kitedrake is a better Red Rose Dragon and they do not hide this fact.
@@residentgrey proceeds to look up red rose dragon
@@residentgrey first off Kitedrake is a Speedroid monster and isn't on its Forbidden and limited list, second of did you mean black rose dragon because if that's your comparison yeah, also completely different eras but Black Rose is a generic level 7 while Kitedrake needs Machine Wind monsters. Yes I have played Speedroids irl
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan It is a matter of EFFECT... You should know what I mean...
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Plz do look up that deck. It affected the meta.
Surprised Verte didn't show up
MBT has watched the Boondocks is the only thing I got from this video
Magician Souls while its played in Dark Magician decks mainly found its home Spyral decks thanks to Master Plan.
So someone gonna say Magicians' Soul for being so good it ushered in a 2nd tier zero of a previous tier zero deck?
What, no mention of Lavalval Chain?
Spheres needs archetype lock yesterday
Look ma!
5:20
My comment made it to the stream and video! :]
I want to see a thead about budget substitutes.
I want people to know I use Dinowrestler Capapatera in my deck because I don't have Pot of Prosperity but I have multiple copies of Small World and want a better bridge.
1:25 for me I would use animadorned then if I had baby cerasaurous would destroy it then summon aeolo then go into halq
Almiraj is one I thought would appear on this thread.
"WHO IS 'WE'?? YOU SPEAKIN FRENCH?!"
All of the good Hidden Arsenal cards would be my best catch all answer
Emersld Tortoise was added not milled by Rainbow Bridge
Shout-Out to putting the Spellbook Engine into Speedroids to help unclog your hands.
1:48 "It's a Dragon"
.............Machine type
Gagaga cowboy? Normal in Gagaga and actual xyz archetype but used everywhere else for 800 for time or that final push for lethal 😂
Pankratops:
I run, and I explode!
I can testify that Melffys lead to a mid board in Sprights. Yesterday, I faced a Spright Player at locals with an end board of Catty, Melffy of the Forest, Gigantic, Sprind, and the Trap that turns my monster into xyz material. My turn ended with his field empty and me attacking for game with Baronne, Chixiao, and a light blocking Chaofeng.
Damn bro you're a really strong duelist
@@LazurBeemz Not really. I just had one of the best hands ever (Adhara, Ashuna, Vishuda, Taia, Eccelisia, and a drawn Ash Blossom to blank Catty).
Wightprincess isnt good trickstar cores are just so small they have trouble finding any other cards to put in there without bloating their decks with spell/traps. They just havent figured out DD crow is legal yet more than anything
Galaxy soldier in cyber dragons
So this is a recent one and probably not going to be meta relevant ever. but there's a line using Battlin' Boxer King Dempsey in Crystal Beast to turn any 2 level 4s into Golden Rule via searching and summoning Fire Flint Lady, making isolde, and sending golden rule for Infernoble Knight Renaud.
Bonus points: in MD you can do this by going crystal bond for ruby + crystal beast rainbow dragon to backrow, banish to search rainbow dragon + summon emerald tortoise, normal ruby and make MX Saber Invoker for Heroic Challenger Morningstar into Isolde.