Actually from a Lore standpoint this is one of the most lore-accurate Decks! If I recall correctly, thebIce barrier main deck monsters we're "protectors" of the ice barrier. They are actively trying to KEEP the dragons bound within the barrier. Which reflects Well in the archetype because they suck so bad because have NO coherent ways to summon the Dragons, which in turn...keeps them locked up (This was not what Konami intended and it's one of the worst archetypes of the 5Ds era)
It makes sense that the Ice Barrier monsters would struggle in making their boss monsters. In-Lore, they want to _stop_ the dragons from being released. Great for the story, but bad for actual play.
They need at least 1 month to unseal Trishula and must working through many procedures. Sadly while they won against Fabled, Trishula also a double-edged weapon to them (hilariously it never have any backfired effect).
@@Deathmare235 from what I remember The dragons first released in different time First Brionac and then Gungnir. Out of desperation to defeat Fabled, they release Trishula but that action also backfired. Several years later, Noellia trying to unseal them again, however the dragons have already corrupted by Evilswarm. No idea what truly happened to the dragons after the war against Sophia, but their powers become used by several major characters like the Nekrozs, Kerykeion and even Shaddoll also absorbing their power.
You know, in hindsight, Ice Barrier could have been a really cool Kaiju synchro-style deck, where you synchro summon your big dragons to your opponents board and have to try and defeat the foe you unleashed with a variety of actually synergising effects designed to do that, shutting down your opponents plays by continually trading out their cards for your own ice barrier boss monsters
Logs, the video description is about Galaxy Eyes, released a couple of weeks ago. By the way, Ice Barriers are cool-looking monsters (mainly Trishula and its Warrior counterpart), but they are bricks.
I don't think Gungnir is bad just because it's the weakest of the Ice Barrier Synchro Monsters because I had a Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds DS game and I played against it and it gave me a lot of trouble.
@@monkey_blu there is “royal knight” a LIGHT Fairy and “Royal Knight of the ice barrier” which can be searched by this card. Prolly where the confusion originated
@@panblu Yep, Lancea and other main deck cards. They are REALLY good for both going first and second and lets you use old ice barrier floodgates that were impossible to use without Lancea. Sadly, those few new cards haven't hit TCG yet, so we only have some of the pieces.
@@lyg483 To further point this out, Ice Barriers have SUPER EASY access to a first turn +3 and even a +4 draw with just 1-3 cards. And if they were somehow disrupted by hand traps, they still have the other cards in their hand to do another combo. Although I do admit, if this deck bricks, they brick hard.
Ice Barriers have been so pathetic that they're weirdly adorable... to the extent that playing them with the new boss monster and extenders was a bit of an eye opener... like, there was a moment where the clouds parted mid-duel, and I went "Holy crap... this is a stun archetype!?" Like, obviously, they've always WANTED to be a stun archetype, but they were so bad at it they could never stun anyone... so seeing them do what they were always meant to do was a shock to the system. :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
I'm noticing a clear theme here: It's trying to be a control deck who focuses on blocking backro (A stun deck)... But is ridiculously vulnerable to any sort of spell removal like raigeki, while also not destroying way too often. Remember, the Synchros and regular Monsters are archenemies, so they're NOT supposed to synergize... But the regular monsters are AWFUL at stopping synchro plays considering they are mostly focused on stopping backro, and their few effects against those synchros come way too late to matter considering they don't negate their effects.
I noticed that too, and I think DuelLogs is wrong to call the archetype's effects "random". That said, some Ice Barrier monsters do have effects that have nothing to do with being a Control Deck e.g. Pilgrim of the Ice Barrier is just Obnoxious Celtic Guardian with slightly more ATK and worse DEF, so I can understand the confusion.
Honestly, I can See Royal Knight being used to Generate Advantage on a Niche Level. And that’s by Giving Yourself a Target to Attack beyond what Your Opponent Has!
I feel that the Cyber Girl archetype belongs here too. They have around 7 members and a trap card and have next to no synergy. There is a slight theme of direct attacks among them, but the rest of the cards (including Their ace, Cyber Blader) don't mesh well with them.
Ever since the new support got released, I've become an Ice Barrier main in my locals, and been getting consistent tops every week or so. Though I must admit, when my hand bricked... boy do they brick
Thanks to the Mirror Magic Master and Lancea in the new duel terminal support set in OCG, the ability to synchro summon has became so easy the deck can quite easily reach a board of Lancea, Gymir and Dragite with just one card. Lancea also makes it so cards like Raiho can finally see play and it basically validifies most of the floodgate effects of the main deck ice barriers
I think we got the wrong Description in the box there. Man I loved me my Ice Barriers back in the day. Yeah they were bad, and I didn't have Brionic until he had hit the ban list, but I loved them because...uh... ... You know...all my friends snatched up all the other archetypes!
0:48 Ideas to fix a bunch of these cards (that’s I’ll get to bit by bit as these videos keep dropping when I’m working): _Blizzed, Herald of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER) Level 1 Aqua/Tuner/Effect _Your opponent cannot target Face-Up “Ice Barrier” monsters you control for attacks or monster effects, except this card. If this card would be destroyed by battle or an opponent’s card effect, first draw 1 card. If this card would be banished by an opponent’s card effect, first shuffle 1 card from your GY into your deck. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while on the field._ ATK/300 DEF/500 Basically the angle I’m thinking of is giving the worse off IB monsters better versions of their current effects, then having them confer those effects onto the bigger “Ice Barrier” monsters they’re used as fodder for to summon. So if I used the Herald here to bring out Trishula, your opponent would have to deal with Trish having Heralds effects (and the floating effects are worded to assure that they go off even if said Trish would leave the field). 0:53 _Grand Cryomancer of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER) Level 2 Aqua/Effect _While you control another “Ice Barrier” monster, Your opponent’s level/Rank/Link 5 or higher monsters cannot declare an attack. If your opponent’s monster targets a monster you control for an attack or effect, you can discard 1 card: Special Summon 1 "Ice Barrier Token" (Aqua/WATER/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0), and if you do, change the target to that summoned Token. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while on the field._ ATK/1300 DEF/0 2:30 _Frostbitten Grub in the Ice Barrier_ (WATER) Level 4 Insect/Tuner/Effect _If this card is summoned, Target 1 unused main monster zone. While this card, or any “Ice Barrier” monster that was summoned using this card as tribute or material, is on the field, one of the following effects (Your Choice) is applied to that targeted monster zone:_ _⚪️That monster Zone cannot be used._ _⚪️Level 5 or higher monsters can be Normal Summoned/Set to this monster zone without tributing._ _⚪️If a card in this monster zone is destroyed or Banished, Excavate 1 card from the top of your deck, and if it’s an “Ice Barrier” card, add it to your hand, otherwise shuffle it into your deck._ ATK/1300 DEF/1800 3:34 _Warrior of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER) Level 6 Spellcaster/Tuner/Effect _If this card is summoned: Change the battle position of 1 monster on the field. “Ice Barrier” monsters you control can make an additional attack per battle phase. “Ice Barrier” cards you control cannot be destroyed by card effects. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while on the field._ ATK/1600 DEF/2200 3:46 _Spiritualist of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER) Level 7 Spellcaster/Tuner/Effect _While this card is on the field or in your hand or GY, If your opponent controls 4 or more cards than you: You can Special Summon 1 “Ice Barrier” monster from your hand or GY. Your opponent can only activate 1 Spell/Trap Card each turn. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this card’s effects while on the field._ ATK/2200 DEF/1600 3:56 _Hierophant of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER) Level 4 Warrior/Tuner/Effect _”Ice Barrier” monsters you control cannot be destroyed (by battle or card effect) by monsters with 1900 or more ATK. ”Ice Barrier” monsters you control cannot be Banished by the effects of monsters with 1900 or less ATK. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while in the field._ ATK/1500 DEF/1000
I think I remember trying to build Ice Barriers when we got the first 4 HA sets. Think I remember pulling a Trishula too as well from a pack of HA04. Good times...Now I have the structure deck core thanks to a friend & waiting for that new Ice Barrier support!
In fairness to Trishula zero If the special summon to the original was a synchro summon It will be blatantly overpowered with this version, you already banished 3 cards on your opponents field. On top of that, if your opponent doesn't have anything that bypass its destruction effect they risk getting their side banished. If this was its actual effect the card could possibly be banned since everyone will play it.
It turns out I use a slightly modified version of the structure deck in Duel Links. I added Defender of the Ice Barrier to enable lv 11 synchros to get at Trishula Zero. It's a pretty good going second deck; if you can put Trishula Zero out and resummon Revealer with Freezing Chains, it's pretty much a quick OTK.
I remember trying to run this deck earlier because it was so affordable and there was just so many ice barrier cards yet they hardly worked with each other
@@wong4u203 Dw the new cards have apparently been doing pretty well in the OCG on release. Once those new cards come to the TCG you'll enjoy playing with them and actually have an easier time too.
not sure about everyone else, but i have always seen Ice Barriers as a lockdown/floodgate deck, most of its monsters give your opponents some sort of restrictions
That's what they were, the idea was to special summon the high level generals with magic triangle and either use Grunard's double NS to bring more ice barrier and turn on their floodgate effects or Gantala and revive them after discarding with Strategist, while aided by generic water support. Of course it sucked at this, but so does TDL at research
@TheDuelLogs 1) The Ice Barrier is actually a playable deck in non-competitive enviroment since their structure deck were released. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be. 2) The video description is about Galaxy Eyes...
I loved using ice barriers as a super budget control/lockout deck using only the low lv ice barriers and the wetlands field spell. Master duel low rarity event was handed to me on a silver platter
Biggest problem was that this was a lore-based archetype. Instead of just making good cards, they made all of the Ice barrier cards weakling humans and gave the dragons and monsters that they’re meant to be sealing away the strong effects. And then gave the Ice Barriers stuff that was direct counters like Mirror of the Ice Barrier
and went out of their way to put restrictions on them to prevent summoning their archetypal synchros because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!
Still better than constantly making new cards better than the last and powercreeping tf out of the game imo. This adds flavour. Barely anyone plays Kash for instance for the lore. If you know people who do, great, I don't
alright this boy is throwing hands now. Ice barrier is great with the new support, and even back when the structure deck came out it was strong as hell and i loved it! my first deck
With the frog engine, i definitely found some good uses for ice barrier. However it is the most inconsistent archetype I've ever been a fan of. If it weren't for the trish dragons, this would've been worse than something like melodious or pure ghostrick
Back in the day I won more games than I expected with a ice barrier/frog wetlands deck with Level Limit, Gravity Bind and Messenger of Peace. Absolutely one trick, did surprisingly well if they don't have removal. Frogs and Ice Barrier do great together
ice barrier designed to limit and stun opponent play with the main deck by swarm the field with its member before swing for game with the synchros. a simple fact that most player slip by (most player would synchro too early before they can otk and waste blanket of stun/protection main deck ice barrier provide). however, despite the main deck monster have good and strong effect, there was no card that actually help them swarm the field and connect them together for years. as result, most of its member 'seek refuge' in other deck instead.
You could also add Ice Barrier (trap) as they can search it as if it is belong to them... despite of the trap meant to be Manga card and coincidence same name.
Dewdark was actually usable by his own with wetlands the field for lv2 and lv1 water monster get a huge boost alike having a 2400 atk for do a direct attack was something, adding that to the frog decks was pretty good
Ice barriers are some of the best Yugioh artwork imo. I opened Secret Guards of the Ice Barrier when I was younger and was struck by the design of the card that the archetype became my favorite on that alone and very quickly started collecting them whenever I could. When I played on Dueling network back in the day I actually played a Wetlands Ice Barrier deck that was fun to play and did decently well with it. But yeah the archetype was never good. Just, very pretty trash. lol Despite only casually following yugioh and not really playing the game anymore I did buy the structure deck back when it came out for nostalgias sake and I'll probably pick up the new cards when they come out for the same reason.
Part 1 : I don't know if calling Ice Barrier garbage is appropiate. Don't get me wrong, during their lauch most of the other synchro decks are way more consistent and the only decent strategy before the XYZ era was likley, overall, Wetlands beatdown (one of the lv2 tuner becomes a 2500 gravity binds on legs, while the other is a 2400 direct attacker) with some synchro tech options (I will mention below), but when you consider a lot of the cards synergies and plays, the deck, before the craziness of Pendulum era break my board type of game, the deck could pull plays enough to be considered a average 5-6/10 deck. A failed deck, yes, but not trash. Something that it is not being mentioned is that together with the Prior of Ice barrier, the XYZ era came together with lots of WATER and Aqua support (thanks Nasch) that improved their, somewhat consistency, even if slow, and could provide some extra decks plays as well okay protection. Cards like Salvage, Surface, Silent Angler, Tidal the WATER LV7 Dragon Ruler (only banned for good in the OCG in 2015), Sea lord Amulet, Morray of Greed are options. In slower days, Prior of the Ice Barrier seems restrictive at first due to preventing your syncro plays and seems to be just a decent Rank 2 engine. What some not realize is that he works as a monster reborn to any Ice Barrier monster that can be spamed through the use of Salvage and Surface. The former you could ressurect any LV4, or below, Ice Barrier monster from the GY as long you controlled another IB monster in the field and by abusing the Special Summon built in. You could abuse the latter spell to summon any IB from the GY, since the restriction only applies if you Special Summon Prior; if you don't, the restriction doesn't apply: normal Prior, ressurect any other IB, then use surface to bring it back and ressurect another, therefore allowing for synchro and some above above Rank 4 plays; Combo Prior with cards like Silent Angler, Strategist (set-up GY), Spellbreaker (Salvage Target besides Angler), it is possible to get Rank 4 plays (generic; Bahamut Shark; Abyss Dweller for both the floodgate effect and the ATK boost- making Gantala and Tidal over 3000 ATK) . The high level best targets are Raiho (Sea Lord Amulet protects from spells and traps, his discard effect can drain opponets resources or prevent plays mid - late game) and Gantala (slow in getting back your other mosnters, but has good synergy with a turner I will mention below; also it allows Rank 7 plays). Granted, getting the generals in the grave is trick besides using Stratgist (or Spellbrekaer), however, using Foolish or Tidal (at 1) could get them from the Deck to the GY (Tidal also helped with Rank 7 if you have both him and Gantala on the GY), also discard for cost Traps could help in this regard. Now let's talk about the tuner that allows unexpected synchro plays: the lv 3, Defender of the Ice Barrier: -Target for Salvage and Surface, preferably using the latter, to perform the synchro plays. -By normal summoning him plus and Angler, the generic LV7 Synchro line up becomes including the two Rose Dragons (also used for banish fodder to Tidal, since they asre Dragons). If a Surface is used, you could get a level 10; - Spellbrekaer and Strategist are his best Ice Barrier LV4 to combo with. Why? Because they are both Spellcaster, therefore allowing for summoning Arcanite Magician, pop up 2 cards them using it for another Extra Deck play. -Gantala combo was a okay safety net for battle protection, by reviving him in preparation for the opponent turn. Also, with prior plus surface, you can get a qucik Lv10 if waiting is not the game. With these resources , it is possilbe to to get 2 LV 7 on the field bu using Gantala (using Prior), Tidal (while legal) or using another Lv 7 synchro, even if requires a bit of set up and require playing a slower format. Allowing access to Dracossack, Big Eye and The Mermail Rank 7 (two Gantala or one plus Tidal). It is also possilbe to bring Trishula, and I am not talking about the awkward using the 4+3+2 mosnter, but a 3+3+3 combo: Summon Dracossack, use it's effect to suumon two lv3 token, then use Defender to tune into Trsihula. KEEP IN MIND, what I described is not super consitent to all of the above, especially with bans from Tidal; but it was possilbe, with differents degree of accesibility in the deck. The easier plays are doing Rank 2 or 4 builds with generic plus WATER support, with some lv 7 synchro tech by using Defender into Black or Moon Rose Dragons, Arcanite and maybe an LV10. And despite all that the deck being played in that past format would be average, but fun to use.
Part 2. In regards to the new support: Since the deck has 3 copies of Medallion (which Wayne can search, as well any other IB spell or trap, including Chains and the "Ice Barrier" trap) , as well as having multiple summon from the hands monsters and getting field presence, getting syncrhos on the field is not that hard, heck the new Trishula can summoned to the field with not that much problem, even only considering the first wave of support: Summon Revealer, special summon other water monster from yhour hand then summon Hexa Spirit and fix the level (or just do Xyz, either summon Bahamut Shark or go straight to Toad by using Prior and Hexa). If we consider the lastest ccards, conssitency becomes even more optimal and by putting Freezing Chains and Frozen Domain can be annoying or even troublesome to deal with it While Ash Blossom is still a pain, but at least you can stop from getting Nibiru'd if you stop at Trishula or straight for Toad (or Lancea considering the new support). Summon limit is a issue if we consider only the archtype cards (though, most decks struggle with it without adding outside cards to provide removal), but Gozen Match (?), I think you meant Rivarly of Warlords (since all are WATER, but they have different types). Then again, at least IB can still do plays even if Ash Blossomed (unlike certain decks taht are stoped on their tracks) if you have some in your hand that can SP themselves and/or special summon tokens. One last note: I think the video didn't give the newer Trishula synchro credit: first of all it gives non-targeting non dstruction removal of 3 cards on the filed, which is a good effect even by today standards, and that is the card plan A, the if destroyed effect is the card Plan B, and is likely there to compensate for Freezing Chains weakness, where you likley will not have the 3 IB monster in the field to protect it from Extra Deck monsters interruptions or destructions next turn, or to punish them if they try to prevent the 3 cards banishing. With Frozen Domain protection, now the effects ebcame way more effective. Finally, It is one of the few geenricLevel 11 synchro that actually worth playing, and is a tech choice for WATER decks (since nowadays those love to put restrictionson summoning only WATER for the rest of the turn) even if only for the 3 banish effect. Honestly I believe with all the support the deck is functional in regards to summoning their bosses as well the floodgate style of playing to some degree. Currently it is closer to 6-6,5 grade at least; and considering the "popularity" of the archtype, Konami will likley release more support in the future. While the deck will probably not become meta in itself (the banned the synchro for years, no way they will make it so easy for you to spawn those by playing their origin deck) but just like ssome Syncrhro were found usage as generic tech, their main deck cards likely will find palce in some other WATER deck.
Saying that Ice Barrier is still a "failed archetype" after this new support is absolutely ridiculous. The deck is fully functional and playable now. And it is pretty decent too. Saying all these archetypes are failed makes you look like a fool especially when the decks are getting new support or have won worlds before
As an ice barrier player, what the deck desperately needs is a link 2 that reads you can link summon this card with material from your hand including an ice barrier monster, because it dies to just losing your normal summoned monster. and give the link a decent effect on top of that. preferably a 1850 atk WATER Spellcaster.
One time I jokingly said “Here me out… Ice Barrier Tearlament” (when Tear was at full power, Ishizu cards just got banned, and we all knew more bans were coming). Got the groans I expected when anyone says ‘Ice Barrier’, but one person went “Hol’ up, let him cook.” Then everyone paused for a second with the ‘wait a moment…’ look in their eyes as they realized Ice Barrier was Water type and COULD be run with Tear… before they rightfully dismissed it with laughs.
In Duel Links back before the Skill:Balance got nerfed, ice barrier magic triangle was the coldest OTK at the time Not everyone had triple Dark World Dealings/Enter the Void- but if you did…. maaaan 😮💨
Ice Barrier is my hands down favorite arc-type ever released, and I spent so much time deck building with it ever since it's release to try and make it work and I could never do anything with it and ended up playing Blackwings up until the Qliporth release, when I stopped playing the game in general. I wish the Ice Barriers could've been good
Omg,Devloren and Gungnir were such overkill in Meremail-Abyss back in days.Devloren return Abyssmegalo,Abyss scale equip spell,Aquarium stage and Atlanteans to gain up to 4000 atk.Then discard againg for Abyssmegalo to clean the opponet board and go strait for otk/ftk.Gungnir,if you discard Atlantean marksman or heavy infantry can clean up to 4 cards just like that.He does target and destroy tho,but I usually didn't encounter problems with this strategy.
When you use this frame of reference, only %1 of decks in that era were good lol. The synchros were absolutely a problem that could have been easily fixed before the cards were shipped. Playing them only in an Ice Barrier deck felt pretty fair most of the time.
I love my ice barrier deck, I have blended a couple Atlantean monsters for extension and I play cause I just love the artwork of Trishula and I make it work.
Raiho is an okay addition to Umi, since you can summon it from the deck or GY with Citadel Whale. Its one-sided Skill Drain-like effect is really nasty, and it is easily protected with Sea Stealth!
Honestly not only ice barrier but all the early hidden arsenal based archetypes had one horrendous mindset taken into their creation. Effects related to the lore no matter how good or bad that may be! Now support has made things better for most of them but several hidden arsenal archetypes are still horrible even if their designs are sweet!
I actually built an ice barrier deck and managed to be a threat at times. Granted i did research the cards before they came out. I also splashed in other cards to help the deck to flow and run better.
Probably one of my 5 fav favorite archetypes even without knowing the lore. I liked the theme and the vibe it carried but god damn does Konomi know how to fuck up a wet dream. I still think Toons are the other prime example of going no where for decades
I still sustain that Ice Barrier has one of the best illustrations in the game, and that was why it painted me so much how besides the boss monster they were literally unplayable.
Noticing a theme with Hidden Arsenal archetypes being in the fail series. Is it just me or was there a problem with the Hidden Arsenal stuff in general?
I think why archetypes in the Hidden Arsenal Era were mostly bad it's how line there effects would of become if they were in the 5Ds Anime or that Yugioh back then was way more restricted
I played Ice Barriers with the new support on EdoPro and I’d say the practicing went decently. I never knew how annoying Kashtira/Tearlament were though so I was caught off guard
I love the concept of these videos would you consider doing one of these but I'm successful mechanics in duel links I've heard that duel links has seen some of archetype successes that haven't seen it in the real game
I just love ice barrier archtype even if it's a failure. The support with lancea, georgius, mirror magic master and frozen domain is like honey to the archtype but still I think it could be better.
Ah yes, the archetype that had so many powerful extra deck threats, but little to show for the main deck, which lead to the archetype's entire identity being those powerful extra deck monsters that would be used in meta decks. And that's how I came up with the term "Ice Barrier Syndrome".
shoutout to the ice barrier structure I bought in like 2021 thinking "if Konami made a structure deck out of it, it must be good"
I had the same thoughts when I bought them too 😅😂
Mistakes were made
Oof, sad times
I cheated and asked for a pack of 3 for my birthday. (I know the cards suck but their art is awesome)
how much was it?
Actually from a Lore standpoint this is one of the most lore-accurate Decks!
If I recall correctly, thebIce barrier main deck monsters we're "protectors" of the ice barrier. They are actively trying to KEEP the dragons bound within the barrier.
Which reflects Well in the archetype because they suck so bad because have NO coherent ways to summon the Dragons, which in turn...keeps them locked up
(This was not what Konami intended and it's one of the worst archetypes of the 5Ds era)
Hidden Arsenal 1 really did set the tone on what Ice Barriers would be: _Really_ bad main deck monsters and _really_ broken Synchro monsters.
It was lore accurate.
A bunch of weaklings who banded together to imprison a bunch of powerful synchro monsters.
@@hctaz Or they are held back by having to reign in the powerful dragons.
@@xCorvus7xweren’t they freeing the dragons though
@@Deathmare235 A splinter group among them thought this would be a good idea and got their will eventually, yes.
Meanwhile being in the same lore, mist valley has 10 cards total and got no love at all
It makes sense that the Ice Barrier monsters would struggle in making their boss monsters. In-Lore, they want to _stop_ the dragons from being released. Great for the story, but bad for actual play.
They need at least 1 month to unseal Trishula and must working through many procedures. Sadly while they won against Fabled, Trishula also a double-edged weapon to them (hilariously it never have any backfired effect).
Didn’t they also free them in lore to defeat the powerful monsters
@@Deathmare235 from what I remember
The dragons first released in different time
First Brionac and then Gungnir. Out of desperation to defeat Fabled, they release Trishula but that action also backfired.
Several years later, Noellia trying to unseal them again, however the dragons have already corrupted by Evilswarm.
No idea what truly happened to the dragons after the war against Sophia, but their powers become used by several major characters like the Nekrozs, Kerykeion and even Shaddoll also absorbing their power.
You know, in hindsight, Ice Barrier could have been a really cool Kaiju synchro-style deck, where you synchro summon your big dragons to your opponents board and have to try and defeat the foe you unleashed with a variety of actually synergising effects designed to do that, shutting down your opponents plays by continually trading out their cards for your own ice barrier boss monsters
@@laythena1Nekroz are wearing the bodies of the dragons so they are dead.
Logs, the video description is about Galaxy Eyes, released a couple of weeks ago.
By the way, Ice Barriers are cool-looking monsters (mainly Trishula and its Warrior counterpart), but they are bricks.
Hold up. Do Ice Barriers *not* count as Galaxy Eyes?
Because that would explain a lot about my deck's performance.
Also, Georgeus is wrong. Both level and type.
Ice Barrier's will always be one of my most favorite archetypes I don't care if it's a bad archetype.
I don't think Gungnir is bad just because it's the weakest of the Ice Barrier Synchro Monsters because I had a Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds DS game and I played against it and it gave me a lot of trouble.
@@leebulger7112That one water deck on the street. Annoying Gungnir guy
@@RenzerHMR There was a NPC version of Gungnir and half the time I gave up after Summoning himself or Absolute Zero.
Damn right
Same! Their so fun to use regardless
Didn't know this video was secretly about Galaxy-Eyes
You forgot the actual Ice Barrier. The fish getting frozen.
Came here to say this. That card is incredibly good WATER support.
Yo, this searches Royal Knight
Wdym?
@@Deathmare235 Wdym what do I mean? Don't you know the trap card literally called "Ice Barrier"? Really?
@@monkey_blu there is “royal knight” a LIGHT Fairy and “Royal Knight of the ice barrier” which can be searched by this card. Prolly where the confusion originated
Keep in mind that this Archetype is sneaking in the tops in the OCG for the past 5 months now. The most popular is the Runick + Ice Barrier variant.
Yup, because of the new cards right ?
@@panblu Yep, Lancea and other main deck cards. They are REALLY good for both going first and second and lets you use old ice barrier floodgates that were impossible to use without Lancea.
Sadly, those few new cards haven't hit TCG yet, so we only have some of the pieces.
@@lyg483 To further point this out, Ice Barriers have SUPER EASY access to a first turn +3 and even a +4 draw with just 1-3 cards. And if they were somehow disrupted by hand traps, they still have the other cards in their hand to do another combo.
Although I do admit, if this deck bricks, they brick hard.
@@MasakiHana do you have a link for the deck list?
@@lyg483Lancea is possibly one of the best legacy boss monsters ever printed
Ice Barriers have been so pathetic that they're weirdly adorable... to the extent that playing them with the new boss monster and extenders was a bit of an eye opener... like, there was a moment where the clouds parted mid-duel, and I went "Holy crap... this is a stun archetype!?"
Like, obviously, they've always WANTED to be a stun archetype, but they were so bad at it they could never stun anyone... so seeing them do what they were always meant to do was a shock to the system. :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
When the 2 boss monsters who carries your deck can carry themselves.
cant wait for terminal world or whatever its called. the new support turns this into a banger of a deck
I love the new support the deck got. The main deck floodgates are actually playable now ironically😂
I'm noticing a clear theme here: It's trying to be a control deck who focuses on blocking backro (A stun deck)... But is ridiculously vulnerable to any sort of spell removal like raigeki, while also not destroying way too often.
Remember, the Synchros and regular Monsters are archenemies, so they're NOT supposed to synergize... But the regular monsters are AWFUL at stopping synchro plays considering they are mostly focused on stopping backro, and their few effects against those synchros come way too late to matter considering they don't negate their effects.
I noticed that too, and I think DuelLogs is wrong to call the archetype's effects "random". That said, some Ice Barrier monsters do have effects that have nothing to do with being a Control Deck e.g. Pilgrim of the Ice Barrier is just Obnoxious Celtic Guardian with slightly more ATK and worse DEF, so I can understand the confusion.
See Also: Rata’s rant on Royal Knight Of The Ice Barrier.
I do like that whenever he talks about Ice Barriers, he has to bring up Royal Knight in some way
This is legit one of my favourite archetypes, I can beat some pretty strong decks with it and there is new support coming
We don't talk about royal knight since it got banned for making ice barriers teir 0
Honestly, I can See Royal Knight being used to Generate Advantage on a Niche Level. And that’s by Giving Yourself a Target to Attack beyond what Your Opponent Has!
No
I feel that the Cyber Girl archetype belongs here too. They have around 7 members and a trap card and have next to no synergy. There is a slight theme of direct attacks among them, but the rest of the cards (including Their ace, Cyber Blader) don't mesh well with them.
16:00 I think you meant to say Rivalry instead of Gozen since the deck has insane synergy with Gozen
How Duel Logs writes videos:
* Search with deck is getting legacy support
* Call the deck bad before the support
I would agree, if it weren't for the fact that ice barrier support was shown months ago or even a year ago.
He needed to hurry to make this video before the deck become decent
Yeah, between this, melodius and now gimmick puppets, that seems to be the current pattern.
Ever since the new support got released, I've become an Ice Barrier main in my locals, and been getting consistent tops every week or so. Though I must admit, when my hand bricked... boy do they brick
Still better than ally of justice
Ice barrier can at least summon it’s synchros
Ice barrier have somo sick lore and is baffling how they managed to not make this archetype good.
right? there lore is some of the best and yet the deck is lack luster, hopefully the new support will see them through
God bless those new cards breathing new life into my favorite deck. So much more you can do now!
This deck used to be a pain to go against in the early days of duel links.
I bought 3 structures last year cause i saw the support the ocg got. Its gonna prove itself to be at least decent. And i am all for it!
Thank you duellogs for always out doing yourself i really enjoy these failed archetype videos
Thanks to the Mirror Magic Master and Lancea in the new duel terminal support set in OCG, the ability to synchro summon has became so easy the deck can quite easily reach a board of Lancea, Gymir and Dragite with just one card.
Lancea also makes it so cards like Raiho can finally see play and it basically validifies most of the floodgate effects of the main deck ice barriers
I think we got the wrong Description in the box there.
Man I loved me my Ice Barriers back in the day. Yeah they were bad, and I didn't have Brionic until he had hit the ban list, but I loved them because...uh...
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You know...all my friends snatched up all the other archetypes!
Raiho control forever, your opponent will have NO CARDS
This archetype may suck, but Defender of the Ice Barrier be cute.
0:48 Ideas to fix a bunch of these cards (that’s I’ll get to bit by bit as these videos keep dropping when I’m working):
_Blizzed, Herald of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER)
Level 1
Aqua/Tuner/Effect
_Your opponent cannot target Face-Up “Ice Barrier” monsters you control for attacks or monster effects, except this card. If this card would be destroyed by battle or an opponent’s card effect, first draw 1 card. If this card would be banished by an opponent’s card effect, first shuffle 1 card from your GY into your deck. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while on the field._
ATK/300 DEF/500
Basically the angle I’m thinking of is giving the worse off IB monsters better versions of their current effects, then having them confer those effects onto the bigger “Ice Barrier” monsters they’re used as fodder for to summon. So if I used the Herald here to bring out Trishula, your opponent would have to deal with Trish having Heralds effects (and the floating effects are worded to assure that they go off even if said Trish would leave the field).
0:53
_Grand Cryomancer of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER)
Level 2
Aqua/Effect
_While you control another “Ice Barrier” monster, Your opponent’s level/Rank/Link 5 or higher monsters cannot declare an attack. If your opponent’s monster targets a monster you control for an attack or effect, you can discard 1 card: Special Summon 1 "Ice Barrier Token" (Aqua/WATER/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0), and if you do, change the target to that summoned Token. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while on the field._
ATK/1300 DEF/0
2:30
_Frostbitten Grub in the Ice Barrier_ (WATER)
Level 4
Insect/Tuner/Effect
_If this card is summoned, Target 1 unused main monster zone. While this card, or any “Ice Barrier” monster that was summoned using this card as tribute or material, is on the field, one of the following effects (Your Choice) is applied to that targeted monster zone:_
_⚪️That monster Zone cannot be used._
_⚪️Level 5 or higher monsters can be Normal Summoned/Set to this monster zone without tributing._
_⚪️If a card in this monster zone is destroyed or Banished, Excavate 1 card from the top of your deck, and if it’s an “Ice Barrier” card, add it to your hand, otherwise shuffle it into your deck._
ATK/1300 DEF/1800
3:34
_Warrior of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER)
Level 6
Spellcaster/Tuner/Effect
_If this card is summoned: Change the battle position of 1 monster on the field. “Ice Barrier” monsters you control can make an additional attack per battle phase. “Ice Barrier” cards you control cannot be destroyed by card effects. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while on the field._
ATK/1600 DEF/2200
3:46
_Spiritualist of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER)
Level 7
Spellcaster/Tuner/Effect
_While this card is on the field or in your hand or GY, If your opponent controls 4 or more cards than you: You can Special Summon 1 “Ice Barrier” monster from your hand or GY. Your opponent can only activate 1 Spell/Trap Card each turn. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this card’s effects while on the field._
ATK/2200 DEF/1600
3:56
_Hierophant of the Ice Barrier_ (WATER)
Level 4
Warrior/Tuner/Effect
_”Ice Barrier” monsters you control cannot be destroyed (by battle or card effect) by monsters with 1900 or more ATK. ”Ice Barrier” monsters you control cannot be Banished by the effects of monsters with 1900 or less ATK. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of an “Ice Barrier” monster, that summoned monster gains this cards effects while in the field._
ATK/1500 DEF/1000
lets go ice barrier's have hope!
From the months of testing I've done online. Ice Barrier will not only be good, but it could possibly even dethrone Snake-Eyes.
@@gabehasfurther4081Ice Barrier now is a sleeper deck in OCG. No doubt it would be at least rogue status when full supports are coming in TCG
I think I remember trying to build Ice Barriers when we got the first 4 HA sets. Think I remember pulling a Trishula too as well from a pack of HA04. Good times...Now I have the structure deck core thanks to a friend & waiting for that new Ice Barrier support!
In fairness to Trishula zero If the special summon to the original was a synchro summon It will be blatantly overpowered with this version, you already banished 3 cards on your opponents field. On top of that, if your opponent doesn't have anything that bypass its destruction effect they risk getting their side banished. If this was its actual effect the card could possibly be banned since everyone will play it.
Thanks logs, ive been wanting some trishula support for a while now
I vote for evilswarms for the next episode. A once dominant deck ruined by power creep and master rule changes.
It turns out I use a slightly modified version of the structure deck in Duel Links. I added Defender of the Ice Barrier to enable lv 11 synchros to get at Trishula Zero. It's a pretty good going second deck; if you can put Trishula Zero out and resummon Revealer with Freezing Chains, it's pretty much a quick OTK.
I remember trying to run this deck earlier because it was so affordable and there was just so many ice barrier cards yet they hardly worked with each other
Wait till the other new cards
@@Honest_Mids_Masher Aweeeee you're right, tbh I'm kinda glad, despite Konami's cold shoulder, Ice barriers have a warm place in my heart
@@wong4u203 Dw the new cards have apparently been doing pretty well in the OCG on release. Once those new cards come to the TCG you'll enjoy playing with them and actually have an easier time too.
not sure about everyone else, but i have always seen Ice Barriers as a lockdown/floodgate deck, most of its monsters give your opponents some sort of restrictions
That's what they were, the idea was to special summon the high level generals with magic triangle and either use Grunard's double NS to bring more ice barrier and turn on their floodgate effects or Gantala and revive them after discarding with Strategist, while aided by generic water support. Of course it sucked at this, but so does TDL at research
Thanks DuelLogs! With this video, Konami will make new Ice Barrier support and SURELY this time they will be meta!....right?
@TheDuelLogs
1) The Ice Barrier is actually a playable deck in non-competitive enviroment since their structure deck were released. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
2) The video description is about Galaxy Eyes...
anything is playable in a "non competitive environment" so thats sort of a meaningless distinction
I loved using ice barriers as a super budget control/lockout deck using only the low lv ice barriers and the wetlands field spell. Master duel low rarity event was handed to me on a silver platter
Ayyyy another wetlands IB supporter
you said magic triangle wrong its special summon from your hand not deck. If it was from your deck it would actually be pretty good
Biggest problem was that this was a lore-based archetype.
Instead of just making good cards, they made all of the Ice barrier cards weakling humans and gave the dragons and monsters that they’re meant to be sealing away the strong effects.
And then gave the Ice Barriers stuff that was direct counters like Mirror of the Ice Barrier
and went out of their way to put restrictions on them to prevent summoning their archetypal synchros because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!
Still better than constantly making new cards better than the last and powercreeping tf out of the game imo. This adds flavour. Barely anyone plays Kash for instance for the lore. If you know people who do, great, I don't
look at ice barrier now.
alright this boy is throwing hands now. Ice barrier is great with the new support, and even back when the structure deck came out it was strong as hell and i loved it! my first deck
With the frog engine, i definitely found some good uses for ice barrier. However it is the most inconsistent archetype I've ever been a fan of. If it weren't for the trish dragons, this would've been worse than something like melodious or pure ghostrick
Back in the day I won more games than I expected with a ice barrier/frog wetlands deck with Level Limit, Gravity Bind and Messenger of Peace. Absolutely one trick, did surprisingly well if they don't have removal. Frogs and Ice Barrier do great together
Mirror magic adds any ice barrier card not just monsters
Really scraping the top of the barrel with this one
Honestly recent support makes Ice Barriers a decent rogue deck
Well can't say I didn't see this coming
Magical Triangle of the Ice Barrier doesn't recruit from the deck, it only allows you to special summon an Ice Barrier monster from hand.
Nah, with new support, they are fire... I mean ice... Ice...
Oh, and Royal Knight doesnt exist, its just a mass hysteria case.
ice barrier designed to limit and stun opponent play with the main deck by swarm the field with its member before swing for game with the synchros. a simple fact that most player slip by (most player would synchro too early before they can otk and waste blanket of stun/protection main deck ice barrier provide). however, despite the main deck monster have good and strong effect, there was no card that actually help them swarm the field and connect them together for years. as result, most of its member 'seek refuge' in other deck instead.
It's actually impressive how much support Ice Barrier got that was almost all bad. The new stuff finally fixes it.
Bro didn't even mention the trap card "terror of trishula". One of the best cards the archetype has
Lol it's not 😅
@@elcaballerosenordonjose9577 it is
Also you can't search this trap
Finally, the poster child for all things failed within the yugimons
Duel links Ice barriers were a pita
I absolutely LOVE Winds Over the Ice Barrier. The ultra is so good looking!!
You could also add Ice Barrier (trap) as they can search it as if it is belong to them... despite of the trap meant to be Manga card and coincidence same name.
Konami card design for Duel Terminal: card effects = Lore. Case in point, Flamevell Magician supports Ally of Justice cards.
Dewdark was actually usable by his own with wetlands the field for lv2 and lv1 water monster get a huge boost alike having a 2400 atk for do a direct attack was something, adding that to the frog decks was pretty good
I miss your videos explaining/going through the latest ban lists. Even though these are also 100% appreciated
Ice barriers are some of the best Yugioh artwork imo. I opened Secret Guards of the Ice Barrier when I was younger and was struck by the design of the card that the archetype became my favorite on that alone and very quickly started collecting them whenever I could.
When I played on Dueling network back in the day I actually played a Wetlands Ice Barrier deck that was fun to play and did decently well with it. But yeah the archetype was never good. Just, very pretty trash. lol
Despite only casually following yugioh and not really playing the game anymore I did buy the structure deck back when it came out for nostalgias sake and I'll probably pick up the new cards when they come out for the same reason.
According to the lore, the main deck monsters were supposed to seal the Synchros away, which explains why they couldn't summon them easily
16:56
You meant Rivalry, right?
Because since they are all WATER monsters, Gozen doesn't seem like an issue
is thunder dragon a failed archetype or is it like that one archetype that was so good that it was just too good
Might as well call this series “the duel logs remakes archetype archive”
Part 1 :
I don't know if calling Ice Barrier garbage is appropiate. Don't get me wrong, during their lauch most of the other synchro decks are way more consistent and the only decent strategy before the XYZ era was likley, overall, Wetlands beatdown (one of the lv2 tuner becomes a 2500 gravity binds on legs, while the other is a 2400 direct attacker) with some synchro tech options (I will mention below), but when you consider a lot of the cards synergies and plays, the deck, before the craziness of Pendulum era break my board type of game, the deck could pull plays enough to be considered a average 5-6/10 deck. A failed deck, yes, but not trash.
Something that it is not being mentioned is that together with the Prior of Ice barrier, the XYZ era came together with lots of WATER and Aqua support (thanks Nasch) that improved their, somewhat consistency, even if slow, and could provide some extra decks plays as well okay protection. Cards like Salvage, Surface, Silent Angler, Tidal the WATER LV7 Dragon Ruler (only banned for good in the OCG in 2015), Sea lord Amulet, Morray of Greed are options. In slower days,
Prior of the Ice Barrier seems restrictive at first due to preventing your syncro plays and seems to be just a decent Rank 2 engine. What some not realize is that he works as a monster reborn to any Ice Barrier monster that can be spamed through the use of Salvage and Surface. The former you could ressurect any LV4, or below, Ice Barrier monster from the GY as long you controlled another IB monster in the field and by abusing the Special Summon built in. You could abuse the latter spell to summon any IB from the GY, since the restriction only applies if you Special Summon Prior; if you don't, the restriction doesn't apply: normal Prior, ressurect any other IB, then use surface to bring it back and ressurect another, therefore allowing for synchro and some above above Rank 4 plays;
Combo Prior with cards like Silent Angler, Strategist (set-up GY), Spellbreaker (Salvage Target besides Angler), it is possible to get Rank 4 plays (generic; Bahamut Shark; Abyss Dweller for both the floodgate effect and the ATK boost- making Gantala and Tidal over 3000 ATK) . The high level best targets are Raiho (Sea Lord Amulet protects from spells and traps, his discard effect can drain opponets resources or prevent plays mid - late game) and Gantala (slow in getting back your other mosnters, but has good synergy with a turner I will mention below; also it allows Rank 7 plays). Granted, getting the generals in the grave is trick besides using Stratgist (or Spellbrekaer), however, using Foolish or Tidal (at 1) could get them from the Deck to the GY (Tidal also helped with Rank 7 if you have both him and Gantala on the GY), also discard for cost Traps could help in this regard.
Now let's talk about the tuner that allows unexpected synchro plays: the lv 3, Defender of the Ice Barrier:
-Target for Salvage and Surface, preferably using the latter, to perform the synchro plays.
-By normal summoning him plus and Angler, the generic LV7 Synchro line up becomes including the two Rose Dragons (also used for banish fodder to Tidal, since they asre Dragons). If a Surface is used, you could get a level 10;
- Spellbrekaer and Strategist are his best Ice Barrier LV4 to combo with. Why? Because they are both Spellcaster, therefore allowing for summoning Arcanite Magician, pop up 2 cards them using it for another Extra Deck play.
-Gantala combo was a okay safety net for battle protection, by reviving him in preparation for the opponent turn. Also, with prior plus surface, you can get a qucik Lv10 if waiting is not the game.
With these resources , it is possilbe to to get 2 LV 7 on the field bu using Gantala (using Prior), Tidal (while legal) or using another Lv 7 synchro, even if requires a bit of set up and require playing a slower format. Allowing access to Dracossack, Big Eye and The Mermail Rank 7 (two Gantala or one plus Tidal).
It is also possilbe to bring Trishula, and I am not talking about the awkward using the 4+3+2 mosnter, but a 3+3+3 combo: Summon Dracossack, use it's effect to suumon two lv3 token, then use Defender to tune into Trsihula.
KEEP IN MIND, what I described is not super consitent to all of the above, especially with bans from Tidal; but it was possilbe, with differents degree of accesibility in the deck. The easier plays are doing Rank 2 or 4 builds with generic plus WATER support, with some lv 7 synchro tech by using Defender into Black or Moon Rose Dragons, Arcanite and maybe an LV10. And despite all that the deck being played in that past format would be average, but fun to use.
Part 2.
In regards to the new support: Since the deck has 3 copies of Medallion (which Wayne can search, as well any other IB spell or trap, including Chains and the "Ice Barrier" trap) , as well as having multiple summon from the hands monsters and getting field presence, getting syncrhos on the field is not that hard, heck the new Trishula can summoned to the field with not that much problem, even only considering the first wave of support: Summon Revealer, special summon other water monster from yhour hand then summon Hexa Spirit and fix the level (or just do Xyz, either summon Bahamut Shark or go straight to Toad by using Prior and Hexa). If we consider the lastest ccards, conssitency becomes even more optimal and by putting Freezing Chains and Frozen Domain can be annoying or even troublesome to deal with it
While Ash Blossom is still a pain, but at least you can stop from getting Nibiru'd if you stop at Trishula or straight for Toad (or Lancea considering the new support). Summon limit is a issue if we consider only the archtype cards (though, most decks struggle with it without adding outside cards to provide removal), but Gozen Match (?), I think you meant Rivarly of Warlords (since all are WATER, but they have different types). Then again, at least IB can still do plays even if Ash Blossomed (unlike certain decks taht are stoped on their tracks) if you have some in your hand that can SP themselves and/or special summon tokens.
One last note: I think the video didn't give the newer Trishula synchro credit: first of all it gives non-targeting non dstruction removal of 3 cards on the filed, which is a good effect even by today standards, and that is the card plan A, the if destroyed effect is the card Plan B, and is likely there to compensate for Freezing Chains weakness, where you likley will not have the 3 IB monster in the field to protect it from Extra Deck monsters interruptions or destructions next turn, or to punish them if they try to prevent the 3 cards banishing. With Frozen Domain protection, now the effects ebcame way more effective. Finally, It is one of the few geenricLevel 11 synchro that actually worth playing, and is a tech choice for WATER decks (since nowadays those love to put restrictionson summoning only WATER for the rest of the turn) even if only for the 3 banish effect.
Honestly I believe with all the support the deck is functional in regards to summoning their bosses as well the floodgate style of playing to some degree. Currently it is closer to 6-6,5 grade at least; and considering the "popularity" of the archtype, Konami will likley release more support in the future. While the deck will probably not become meta in itself (the banned the synchro for years, no way they will make it so easy for you to spawn those by playing their origin deck) but just like ssome Syncrhro were found usage as generic tech, their main deck cards likely will find palce in some other WATER deck.
Saying that Ice Barrier is still a "failed archetype" after this new support is absolutely ridiculous. The deck is fully functional and playable now. And it is pretty decent too.
Saying all these archetypes are failed makes you look like a fool especially when the decks are getting new support or have won worlds before
As an ice barrier player, what the deck desperately needs is a link 2 that reads you can link summon this card with material from your hand including an ice barrier monster, because it dies to just losing your normal summoned monster. and give the link a decent effect on top of that. preferably a 1850 atk WATER Spellcaster.
One time I jokingly said “Here me out… Ice Barrier Tearlament” (when Tear was at full power, Ishizu cards just got banned, and we all knew more bans were coming). Got the groans I expected when anyone says ‘Ice Barrier’, but one person went “Hol’ up, let him cook.” Then everyone paused for a second with the ‘wait a moment…’ look in their eyes as they realized Ice Barrier was Water type and COULD be run with Tear… before they rightfully dismissed it with laughs.
In Duel Links back before the Skill:Balance got nerfed, ice barrier magic triangle was the coldest OTK at the time
Not everyone had triple Dark World Dealings/Enter the Void- but if you did…. maaaan 😮💨
Ice Barrier still play in Shark skill
Ice Barrier is my hands down favorite arc-type ever released, and I spent so much time deck building with it ever since it's release to try and make it work and I could never do anything with it and ended up playing Blackwings up until the Qliporth release, when I stopped playing the game in general. I wish the Ice Barriers could've been good
Every time I see DT cards get modern support, I also got hope for Dragunity.
Specially ice barrier.
I remember the day buying packs of hidden arsenal with my brother and I pulled Brionac from one of them, such a good day.😊
Omg,Devloren and Gungnir were such overkill in Meremail-Abyss back in days.Devloren return Abyssmegalo,Abyss scale equip spell,Aquarium stage and Atlanteans to gain up to 4000 atk.Then discard againg for Abyssmegalo to clean the opponet board and go strait for otk/ftk.Gungnir,if you discard Atlantean marksman or heavy infantry can clean up to 4 cards just like that.He does target and destroy tho,but I usually didn't encounter problems with this strategy.
Can’t wait for the new support in Masterduel.
When you use this frame of reference, only %1 of decks in that era were good lol. The synchros were absolutely a problem that could have been easily fixed before the cards were shipped. Playing them only in an Ice Barrier deck felt pretty fair most of the time.
YESSS I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
I love my ice barrier deck, I have blended a couple Atlantean monsters for extension and I play cause I just love the artwork of Trishula and I make it work.
Ice Barrier extra deck is the main deck's older brother
the errata's for the dragon was unneccesary, even by today standard the card is balanced
Not its not lmao. old Brionac would be stupid today
Raiho is an okay addition to Umi, since you can summon it from the deck or GY with Citadel Whale. Its one-sided Skill Drain-like effect is really nasty, and it is easily protected with Sea Stealth!
2:58 Special summons 1 ice barrier from the hand not deck(just wanted to clarify)
Honestly not only ice barrier but all the early hidden arsenal based archetypes had one horrendous mindset taken into their creation. Effects related to the lore no matter how good or bad that may be! Now support has made things better for most of them but several hidden arsenal archetypes are still horrible even if their designs are sweet!
I actually built an ice barrier deck and managed to be a threat at times. Granted i did research the cards before they came out. I also splashed in other cards to help the deck to flow and run better.
You should do why no body plays amazoness/ F.A
Probably one of my 5 fav favorite archetypes even without knowing the lore. I liked the theme and the vibe it carried but god damn does Konomi know how to fuck up a wet dream.
I still think Toons are the other prime example of going no where for decades
Could you do a video about the FABLED archetype? Never knew why it failed against the Dark World archetype or any other archetype.
I still sustain that Ice Barrier has one of the best illustrations in the game, and that was why it painted me so much how besides the boss monster they were literally unplayable.
Finally it's here. I'm looking forward to playing the new support of this deck
I'm trying to suggest the Machina archetype. Only like 2 or 3 of the cards are actually useful, and even then, only in certain rogue decks.
Noticing a theme with Hidden Arsenal archetypes being in the fail series. Is it just me or was there a problem with the Hidden Arsenal stuff in general?
I think why archetypes in the Hidden Arsenal Era were mostly bad it's how line there effects would of become if they were in the 5Ds Anime or that Yugioh back then was way more restricted
Mans just straight up looking at Rank10YGO for ideas lol, make a naturia video!
I played Ice Barriers with the new support on EdoPro and I’d say the practicing went decently. I never knew how annoying Kashtira/Tearlament were though so I was caught off guard
I love the concept of these videos would you consider doing one of these but I'm successful mechanics in duel links I've heard that duel links has seen some of archetype successes that haven't seen it in the real game
I just love ice barrier archtype even if it's a failure. The support with lancea, georgius, mirror magic master and frozen domain is like honey to the archtype but still I think it could be better.
Ah yes, the archetype that had so many powerful extra deck threats, but little to show for the main deck, which lead to the archetype's entire identity being those powerful extra deck monsters that would be used in meta decks. And that's how I came up with the term "Ice Barrier Syndrome".
And here I was thinking Ice Barrier HAD to be good because of it's OP boss monster. Clearly, I was wrong
Gungnir was my first Syncro. I still use Raiho in my Umi Control deck to this day. I call him “the tax man”
How do you feel about the trap card "Ice Barrier"?