Kerbal Space Program - The Magic Ladder (to Eve and back)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2023
  • A kerbal on a ladder has its mass and drag ignored by the parent craft, which is obviously very powerful for mass optimization. This craft can do an Eve return in under 4 tons. Mass without kerbal and without cargo is 3996 kg; mass with cargo but without pilot is 4061 kg.
    This is very similar to, but distinct from, the ladder kraken drive. The only force exerted on the lander is from propellers and engines (and air resistance). However the basic principle is similar - a kerbal cannot transfer force to a ladder, so in this mission the kerbal is effectively massless and dragless, while in a kraken drive it can push against another part and create an unbalanced force. This should be legal under the standard low mass rule set, although I wouldn't be surprised if the rules were changed afterward.
    Thanks to Ultimate Steve for discovering this and showing me.
    Music: Sung - Cosmic Road
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Комментарии • 55

  • @Borv413
    @Borv413 6 месяцев назад +115

    This is certainly some scraping off the optimization barrel

  • @casualology.
    @casualology. 6 месяцев назад +76

    madness as always, the flag entry shield was insane

  • @griffonatrix
    @griffonatrix 6 месяцев назад +27

    And here I was seeing the thumbnail and thinking "wow, a four-ton Eve ascent that's impressive!"

  • @Boomchacle
    @Boomchacle 6 месяцев назад +35

    Wow, this might make eve and back in 80 days a bit easier for people who actually want to do it

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 месяцев назад +13

      This craft uses DLC rotors and this technique may be difficult with stock propellers

    • @Boomchacle
      @Boomchacle 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@proxima_fish Yeah maybe

  • @Le_Petit_Lapin
    @Le_Petit_Lapin 5 месяцев назад +12

    Telekinetic wizard goes to Eve.

  • @oberonpanopticon
    @oberonpanopticon 6 месяцев назад +8

    Someday the quest for less weight is gonna circle back around to the pre-1950s concepts for saving weight on rockets when specific impulse was *really* low. Stuff like combustible fuselages and cellular staging. Probably not possible to to in stock KSP but eh, not my problem.

  • @Kerballistic
    @Kerballistic 6 месяцев назад +9

    This is incredible work! Flag heat shield was something I never even thought of!

  • @JYF921
    @JYF921 6 месяцев назад +13

    Hm I’ll assume one day rocket chair to Eve and back is possible

  • @jedoesstuff9086
    @jedoesstuff9086 6 месяцев назад +6

    the silliness is mounting, improvements are counting (idk)

  • @leonardobonanno5115
    @leonardobonanno5115 6 месяцев назад +4

    Very impressive, I am happy to see more KSP channels showing that the bondaries of rocket design can be pushed to the next freaking level.
    It was cool that you used orbital construction as it makes ship designs even more interesting.
    Also I didn't know that you could use flags as heat shields, I will surely keep that in mind for my next missions!

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov 6 месяцев назад +3

    Min/maxing the game to the most extreme degree. Incredibly impressive work.

  • @Monkiiengineer
    @Monkiiengineer 6 месяцев назад +4

    Anyways time to revolutionize the low mass grand tour again

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 месяцев назад +2

      With this trick (just on the Eve lander) and a couple ascent optimizations that are in this video but I didn't mention, the mass goes below 7 tons. And it'll get even lower if magic ladder is used on all the other landers as well.

  • @joshrocketlaunches
    @joshrocketlaunches 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is absolutely insane, incredible job

  • @frogross
    @frogross 25 дней назад +1

    Bro made a space scooter

  • @marchill4851
    @marchill4851 6 месяцев назад +2

    beautifully designed

  • @FinnBuildsThings
    @FinnBuildsThings 3 месяца назад +2

    Deserves more than 10k views

  • @justageekygamer
    @justageekygamer 6 месяцев назад +3

    this is insane!

  • @ivansysoev8298
    @ivansysoev8298 5 месяцев назад +2

    That's a stairway to heaven! :)

  • @birksimon1213
    @birksimon1213 6 месяцев назад +2

    Here before this video blows up

  • @albertnewton8296
    @albertnewton8296 27 дней назад +1

    How did I never realise before that you can change MechJeb settings while paused?

  • @logolorin
    @logolorin 2 месяца назад +1

    I love KSP but I don't understand anything of what you guys are doing in these crazy videos. How you do it is also a mystery to me. Still, very entertaining to watch.

  • @kerbalengineeringsystems7415
    @kerbalengineeringsystems7415 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing mission!

  • @Kurgutt
    @Kurgutt 6 месяцев назад +2

    Pushing the limits beyond the limits, beyond the li... ?
    GG ^^ very impressive ❤

  • @slavaukrainisfs8238
    @slavaukrainisfs8238 6 месяцев назад +2

    why dontcha have more views and subs? Ya totally deserve more :)

  • @zihanzhu1651
    @zihanzhu1651 6 месяцев назад +1

    Pure insanity but good job!

  • @TheLoganatorz
    @TheLoganatorz 4 месяца назад +1

    Incredible optimization😆

  • @heshamsobhi2197
    @heshamsobhi2197 18 дней назад +1

    The chuck Norris of Space 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Spooglecraft
    @Spooglecraft 6 месяцев назад +1

    ah yes, breaking ksp physics so hard it's basically magic or alien tech

  • @nerfjanetreal
    @nerfjanetreal 10 дней назад +1

    all you need to go to eve is a kal controller,fuel tank and 2 smallest engines but this bullshit is pretty damn close

  • @lapis7145
    @lapis7145 Месяц назад +1

    watched this while listening to Mozart 2x Speed Left Ear | Bible In Chinese Right Ear

  • @Sledgeskitty
    @Sledgeskitty 6 месяцев назад +2

    actually impressive, now what if you attempt to go to eve, moho, and eeloo using this new trick?
    its challenging but i have hope
    good luck my fren :D

  • @somedude4805
    @somedude4805 4 месяца назад +1

    Niiiiiiice!

  • @weirdmontagesfromgames5953
    @weirdmontagesfromgames5953 5 месяцев назад +1

    bro hold ladder for 14+ years

  • @El_Presidente_5337
    @El_Presidente_5337 Месяц назад +1

    Wow.
    NASA should hire you.

  • @gwagabogo
    @gwagabogo 24 дня назад +1

    Yowza

  • @peterwengert588
    @peterwengert588 6 месяцев назад +1

    Super cool! Does the kerbal occlude the part of the rocket beneath it and negate drag on the front face?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 месяцев назад +1

      There's no drag occlusion unfortunately

  • @Wise_Snowy
    @Wise_Snowy 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey what mod did you use to get that background of space in the actual game?Or is it some setting?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 месяцев назад +1

      It's a skybox replacer called Pood's Calm Nebula, you can get it off CKAN.

    • @Wise_Snowy
      @Wise_Snowy 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@proxima_fish Sick. Thanks!

  • @mathis_lgr_
    @mathis_lgr_ 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hello, what is the mod for the engine flames?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  5 месяцев назад +1

      Waterfall by Nertea and Stock Waterfall Effects by KnightofSaintJohn

  • @baactiba3039
    @baactiba3039 6 месяцев назад +1

    How does this compare to all previously known kraken drives?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 месяцев назад +4

      It's not a kraken drive. I'm not getting any impulse for free, simply getting more out of the rockets that I already have.

    • @baactiba3039
      @baactiba3039 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@proxima_fish oh that's crazy, I didn't realize

  • @minecraftminecraft3580
    @minecraftminecraft3580 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ok do 3 tons

  • @GuybrushKerman
    @GuybrushKerman 6 месяцев назад +1

    This game is broken in the best way possible

  • @KaifamGaming
    @KaifamGaming Месяц назад +1

    holy shit bro this is insane, go work at spacex please..

  • @davidsooley6548
    @davidsooley6548 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wack

  • @alpharocketry1831
    @alpharocketry1831 5 месяцев назад +1

    now do it in real life😂