I sure hope all of us together can think of ways to get this channel to 10k subscribers. This young man deserves it. I am in my seventies now but you sure remind me of myself. Enjoying every minute. Thank you so much.
Frank that means so much to me!! Thank you !!! Your comment really just brightened my day!! I appreciate it so much, again thank you for your wonderful kind words!!
Get a proper manual and go for it. It looks like a great rebuild project. A set of gaskets and some clean up and bearings and I think it is a doable project...
@@MyChannel-d2e Definitely towards the exhaust. When you align the rings on the piston, the meeting ends are never aligned on the arrow side, otherwise you would get blow-by. There is some really good youtube/google info about this you can research. A manual for the engine would be best but if you follow industry standard practices you will prolly be ok.
Yes I need to find a manual somewhere!! I know on two strokes it is VERY important to not have the rings line up with the arrow at the exhaust or intake but it probably doesn’t matter as much with a four stroke cause it doesn’t have the ports in the cyl like a two stroke but I’m still gonna do it like u said for good practice unless the manual states otherwise. Thank u so much for your great advise!!
I wouldn't leave the rings uninspected. Time for a good shop manual and careful inspection. Might want to be sure those aren't aluminum cylinders before going hog wild on honing them? On many they use a silicone hardening process on the aluminum and it is only a few thousands thick. Once you go through it it is toast as the rings will eat up the unhardened aluminum in a heartbeat.
@Wes Harris I never found it to be cost effective and most did not design enough meat in the walls to allow boring out enough for sleeves. Plus where I am you add the cost of shipping (most shops doing this are set up for it as it isn't designed for it. Issues of heat transfer, etc.) and it didn't make sense. Some makes and models lend themselves to it but it isn't cheap.
Hallo , I send you Greethings from Luxemburg ( europe ) Im verry impressed from your videos 👍👍👍 You're doing a good Work my friend !!! I look forward to your next projects !!! Have a good day !!!
I have Bush hog Th440 mfg September 2006 Thanks for your videos I have leak in rear axle transmission area Can you tell me location of fill plug etc thanks Randy
You prob have leaking axle seals they are easy to replace and you can buy them and other parts from messicks, you have to fill it from the plug on the trans and look in the sight glass for the level
@@MyChannel-d2e Thanks for your help just curious do you still have yours in how’s it doing I’ve had mine since about 2008 trying to find a squeaking it also for years now I thought it was grease fittings but not
@@MyChannel-d2e looks like it is leaking around one of the boots I found the round fill plug on top of the transmission what type of fluid goes in it and how do you get the cap off does it on screw or a pull out don’t want to break it Thanks for your help
arrows point to the front of the engine on a lot of engines but get a manual, cause you gonna need it to check tolerances as you go deeper into it. honda's are more expensive to work on but are good engines and you will be ahead to stay with stock installation unless you find the bottom end trashed. frankenstein predator will add delay to the project unless honda parts can't be found locally. manual first, then u can make an informed decision.
Well in my eyes its already apart so i would continue to strip it down and hone the cylinders out ect what have u got to loose its either going to save it or its gonna be junk but its worth cracking on while its already apart and who knowes u may save yourself some money if u get a good result.
I decided to put new pistons and sleeves in at the last minute so rite now I’m waiting on parts to arrive sorry it’s taking so long I ran into a lot of other things that slowed down progress like cracked radiator..ect thanks for your interest in it!!
I think you have a good motor. But i would get a manual so you can actually see what you want to do. Then you could figure out what you want to do. Fix it or replace it your call
Bought a 2009 Mod 4430 at auction and it was apparently abused beyond description. Do you know of any source of buying used engine parts like a cover plate for the CVT filter housing? That's today's challenge. I've spent all my time this past year just finding parts;
Awesome man!! Go on google and u can find parts through messicks there were a dealer for them, however parts are really expensive, does yours have the same Honda engine as mine? If so u can find parts for it on eBay. A lot of the parts like bearings you can look on the numbers on the bearing or seal and find ones that fit that way. Keep in Touch ID love to see some pictures or videos of it
Is buying and fixing things your income? or just a hobby. Do you sell stuff after fixing it or keep it all for your own use? You are talented being able to fix so many things. Good luck with your heart issues. My dad and grand dad had heart problems that ended them.
My income was my home improvement buisness but I haven’t been able to work as much because of my heart issues, so now I kinda fix stuff as a you tube hobby, sometimes I sell stuff it just all depends
id tear it down the rest of the way and if it’s junk buy a new predator if it’s fixable hopefully you won’t have to put 800 into it. myself id rebuild it
I think you should get a manual for the side by side. See if the previous owner has one. If not try on-line or the manufacturer. They might not be in business. Also get a manual for the engine. I think if you want to get this in running and driving shape those are top priority before you start buying parts. Good Luck
@@MyChannel-d2e when I start it in N. It will go into L, H, or R. But In order for me to change gears again, I literally have to shut the engine off put it in Neutral and do it again
@@MyChannel-d2e it was gifted from my girlfriends dad and it was like this when I got it. I called bush hog and the guy acted like it was the neutral safety no doubt.
It would be interesting to price all the components for the Honda vs. the Predator’s outright price. Some controls on the Predator would have to be changed/modified for this ATV, fortunately they are a knockoff of Honda engines to begin with…
New to your channel an I was sitting here trying to figure out who you look like an I know lol you look like an older Michael Cera lol played in Juno an other good movie love the videos
When ya'll started working on this machine it seemed that every bolt was either cross threaded or an American nut was screwed on a metric bolt. Seems like every one. As ya'll move along it seems to go from bad to worse. The character who worked on this machine was a total idiot. Be nice to find out who he is in your local area so as to try to straighten out more "fixes" than just this machine. Seems like a young guy without any preparation into the adult world. Probably someone who doesn't have older brothers or a father even. My older brothers taught me a lot and by 9 or ten I could show my father how to fix stuff. He seemed to be an adequate carpenter but as for mechanics, well.
I sure hope all of us together can think of ways to get this channel to 10k subscribers. This young man deserves it.
I am in my seventies now but you sure remind me of myself. Enjoying every minute. Thank you so much.
Frank that means so much to me!! Thank you !!! Your comment really just brightened my day!! I appreciate it so much, again thank you for your wonderful kind words!!
Get a proper manual and go for it. It looks like a great rebuild project. A set of gaskets and some clean up and bearings and I think it is a doable project...
please check out part 2 and 3 I think u will really enjoy it
Looks like a well built SXS 👍 good project you got there, looking forward to seeing it driving around your place soon!
Thanks for posting.
Thank you very much for watching mike! Me and my wife can’t wait to have it running! It’s a beast!
Some people can fix anything, what a talent!
thanks man
I agree. You should do a proper rebuild and save that engine. Honda's are very good and will last if taken care of.
I agree… any thoughts on the piston arrows?
@@MyChannel-d2e Definitely towards the exhaust. When you align the rings on the piston, the meeting ends are never aligned on the arrow side, otherwise you would get blow-by. There is some really good youtube/google info about this you can research. A manual for the engine would be best but if you follow industry standard practices you will prolly be ok.
Yes I need to find a manual somewhere!! I know on two strokes it is VERY important to not have the rings line up with the arrow at the exhaust or intake but it probably doesn’t matter as much with a four stroke cause it doesn’t have the ports in the cyl like a two stroke but I’m still gonna do it like u said for good practice unless the manual states otherwise. Thank u so much for your great advise!!
Just put a 670 predator engine ...
Tear it down,gives you a clue if yu can even save the motor. Arrow is always to exshaust side do to ring land pin,prevents a ring from catching.
Yea I was thinking the same thing!
Of course it’s solid, its a BushHog! Looks like a good machine.
it’s def solid and has lots of pulling power
I wouldn't leave the rings uninspected. Time for a good shop manual and careful inspection. Might want to be sure those aren't aluminum cylinders before going hog wild on honing them? On many they use a silicone hardening process on the aluminum and it is only a few thousands thick. Once you go through it it is toast as the rings will eat up the unhardened aluminum in a heartbeat.
Great point! I didn’t think about that hopefully there ok 🤞
Doug - could you get the cylinders re sleeved with steel or would that be ridiculous $$$$?
@Wes Harris I never found it to be cost effective and most did not design enough meat in the walls to allow boring out enough for sleeves. Plus where I am you add the cost of shipping (most shops doing this are set up for it as it isn't designed for it. Issues of heat transfer, etc.) and it didn't make sense. Some makes and models lend themselves to it but it isn't cheap.
Hallo , I send you Greethings from Luxemburg ( europe ) Im verry impressed from your videos 👍👍👍
You're doing a good Work my friend !!!
I look forward to your next projects !!!
Have a good day !!!
thank you my friend!!
Thank you for sharing, another great project, always a pleasure follow your project 👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much!
I have Bush hog Th440 mfg September 2006 Thanks for your videos I have leak in rear axle transmission area Can you tell me location of fill plug etc thanks Randy
You prob have leaking axle seals they are easy to replace and you can buy them and other parts from messicks, you have to fill it from the plug on the trans and look in the sight glass for the level
@@MyChannel-d2e Thanks for your help just curious do you still have yours in how’s it doing I’ve had mine since about 2008 trying to find a squeaking it also for years now I thought it was grease fittings but not
@@MyChannel-d2e looks like it is leaking around one of the boots I found the round fill plug on top of the transmission what type of fluid goes in it and how do you get the cap off does it on screw or a pull out don’t want to break it Thanks for your help
arrows point to the front of the engine on a lot of engines but get a manual, cause you gonna need it to check tolerances as you go deeper into it. honda's are more expensive to work on but are good engines and you will be ahead to stay with stock installation unless you find the bottom end trashed. frankenstein predator will add delay to the project unless honda parts can't be found locally. manual first, then u can make an informed decision.
Thanks for the tips! I bought a manual and took it apart, the engine was nastyyy!!!!! look out for part 2!!
That is SELMA, Alabama. You may have heard the name in high school History.
Bush Hog has a long history of Ag equipment manufacture.
Yea that’s what I ment I have a dog named Salem so I got em mixed up, it’s sometime hard to think when on camera
Rebuild it properly. Honda engines are bullet proof when done right and it will be a lot cheaper than $800!
Got that rite!! Thanks!
What did you do for the brake pads? I have a trail hand 4400 and it needs pads they are expensive. A video on that would be great!!!
I just got some brass flat stock from McMaster carr and epoxied and riveted it onto my old pad plates
Well in my eyes its already apart so i would continue to strip it down and hone the cylinders out ect what have u got to loose its either going to save it or its gonna be junk but its worth cracking on while its already apart and who knowes u may save yourself some money if u get a good result.
check out my other videos on it if u haven’t already🙂 I rebuild it
Sweet u got the link for it m8
@@Falconurbex there’s a couple vids click on the videos on my channel I mite have even put them in the description
Good morning when are u going to finish the tractor
I decided to put new pistons and sleeves in at the last minute so rite now I’m waiting on parts to arrive sorry it’s taking so long I ran into a lot of other things that slowed down progress like cracked radiator..ect thanks for your interest in it!!
@@MyChannel-d2e Projects like that take time. Don't apologize, just keep making more videos. Really enjoy watching your content.
Thank u so much!!! That means ALOT to me!!
Man ur subscribers rate is going up fast, glad to see that i hope it continues to grow big and wide!
It’s def been a lot faster than before, and I have to thank you and everyone else for that! I appreciate you all very much!
Darrell I don't know how I managed to miss this video a year ago.
Must of drank too much stump water on the day you released it😅
Allan in Columbia, SC
Hahah thank you Allan 🙂
What's your updated thoughts on this? I'm looking at buying an identical one. 980 hours on it.
Good video, I enjoyed it!👍🏼👍🏼
Thank u very much
I think you have a good motor. But i would get a manual so you can actually see what you want to do. Then you could figure out what you want to do. Fix it or replace it your call
thanks!! I actually bought a manual and I took it apart and motor looks good but it was nasty!!!! look out for part2
Bought a 2009 Mod 4430 at auction and it was apparently abused beyond description. Do you know of any source of buying used engine parts like a cover plate for the CVT filter housing? That's today's challenge. I've spent all my time this past year just finding parts;
Awesome man!! Go on google and u can find parts through messicks there were a dealer for them, however parts are really expensive, does yours have the same Honda engine as mine? If so u can find parts for it on eBay. A lot of the parts like bearings you can look on the numbers on the bearing or seal and find ones that fit that way. Keep in Touch ID love to see some pictures or videos of it
Is buying and fixing things your income? or just a hobby. Do you sell stuff after fixing it or keep it all for your own use? You are talented being able to fix so many things.
Good luck with your heart issues. My dad and grand dad had heart problems that ended them.
My income was my home improvement buisness but I haven’t been able to work as much because of my heart issues, so now I kinda fix stuff as a you tube hobby, sometimes I sell stuff it just all depends
id tear it down the rest of the way and if it’s junk buy a new predator if it’s fixable hopefully you won’t have to put 800 into it. myself id rebuild it
Thank you very much I plans on doing that… hopefully it works 🤞
I think you should get a manual for the side by side. See if the previous owner has one. If not try on-line or the manufacturer. They might not be in business. Also get a manual for the engine. I think if you want to get this in running and driving shape those are top priority before you start buying parts. Good Luck
I’d did get a manual check out part 2 and 3 🙂
pull that apart first you have gone this far then you have an idea steves place down under is a good watch here in aus
Almost first! heh, take it apart imo. spare parts are cheaper then a brand new engine, i think u can save it. Looking forward to part2.
Thanks ants I agree with u! Hope all is well! Thanks
I got the same th440 and it won’t shift while it’s running. I’ve heard neautral safety switch? I adjusted the idle with no luck.
What is it doing exactly I know a good bit about this machine, does it slam into gear and cut off? Or what?
@@MyChannel-d2e when I start it in N. It will go into L, H, or R. But In order for me to change gears again, I literally have to shut the engine off put it in Neutral and do it again
Any help is greatly appreciated, as I have been struggling with this for a few months now
It sounds like the idle is to high, but I know you adjusted that already, when did it start doing this?
@@MyChannel-d2e it was gifted from my girlfriends dad and it was like this when I got it. I called bush hog and the guy acted like it was the neutral safety no doubt.
I think a quick hone and that engine will be ok.But it still wouldn't stop me from looking at the prices of other engines just to see.
new engines are expensive!!
It would be interesting to price all the components for the Honda vs. the Predator’s outright price. Some controls on the Predator would have to be changed/modified for this ATV, fortunately they are a knockoff of Honda engines to begin with…
I would have a re done Honda over a preditor motor all day
yes sir!
New to your channel an I was sitting here trying to figure out who you look like an I know lol you look like an older Michael Cera lol played in Juno an other good movie love the videos
lol thank you my friend!! 😊
AS IS ?
Yea I bought it as is
If the block is good
Run run far away! Lol. Rebuild it. But look for OEM pistons.
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Arrow poimts to front of engine
You seem a lot like myself. A sucker for punishment lol
Hahahah thanks for watching my friend!
Absolutely
Throw it back together and run it till it breaks 🙂
haha I probably will lol
i did thank your show was good but mayb i was rong
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Get the preditor by the time you buy the parts from honda you could have a complete engine installed
Check out my other vids on this
I'm not as good a mechanic as you so i would buy an engine
lol well that would work to
Can't hide money
What money lol
@@MyChannel-d2edon't even!😎
Looks can be deceiving
Fix the honda
check out my other videos on this machine where I fix it up
i guess im am not allowed to say something so will stop thanks
you can say whatever u want
When ya'll started working on this machine it seemed that every bolt was either cross threaded or an American nut was screwed on a metric bolt. Seems like every one. As ya'll move along it seems to go from bad to worse. The character who worked on this machine was a total idiot. Be nice to find out who he is in your local area so as to try to straighten out more "fixes" than just this machine. Seems like a young guy without any preparation into the adult world. Probably someone who doesn't have older brothers or a father even. My older brothers taught me a lot and by 9 or ten I could show my father how to fix stuff. He seemed to be an adequate carpenter but as for mechanics, well.
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