In sixth grade, I binge-watched these videos for fun and scoffed at the high schoolers in the comments who had AP history tests in, like, two days. Anyways, guess what I have in two days.
Someone once said that the Americans are okay with the War of 1812 because they think they won, they Canadians are okay with it because they KNOW they won and the British are okay with it because they've forgotten all about it.
Actually it was British soldiers who burnt down the Whitehouse these soldiers, were fresh out of Europe British forces where sent into a offensive taking countless land.
@@neelmehta9069 The US did lose. Americans invaded Canada first with the purpose of annexing it. And they failed. But since we're talking about victories, let's not forget the burning of Washington. If a foreign army occupies your capital and burns down your palace, you've lost lol.
that's a myth, the U.S.A never lost one engagement in Vietnam including the TED offensive, we got everything we wanted and left, natural resources, sadly thats how it works.
The peace terms that ended the war were those of status quo ante bellum, “the state of things as they were before the war.” So, while the War of 1812 was legally a tie-a wash-in terms of territorial acquisitions, historians now look at its long term effects to judge who won. The Americans declared war (for the first time in their nation’s history) to stop British impressment, reopen the trade lanes with France, remove British support from Native American tribes, and to secure their territorial honor and integrity in the face of their old rulers. All four of these goals were achieved by the time peace broke out, although some British measures were scheduled to be repealed before the war had even begun. By establishing a respected footing with Britain and Canada, the United States also experienced a commercial boom in the years after the war. The overall result of the war was probably positive for the nation as a whole. The British gained little to nothing from the war, save for an honorable friendship with the United States. Valuable resources were diverted from the battlefields of Europe for the War of 1812, which brought no land or treasure to the crown. The British also lost their Native American lodgment against United States expansion, further unleashing the growth of a major global trade competitor. However, the British did ultimately defeat France in their long war while avoiding a fiasco in North America, which is a considerable victory in the context of the global conflict they waged.
@@mega00760 The US never lost a battle in Vietnam, but they never won the war because it wasn't a territorial war. Just like US never gained any land in the war of 1812, but again they didnt lose the war because it again wasnt a territorial war.
Kartkid024 We did the lose the war just because we never lost a battle doesn’t change that, our goal from the beginning was to preserve South Vietnam as a separate entity from North Vietnam and we failed to do so
I think you can count the War of 1812 as a win for The British Empire. If the america tried to invade a british dominion and the british stopped them I would count that as a victory.
...and we made them our pants, and got Laura Secord chocolate out of it :D Also, Robert Ross, the guy who ordered the burning of the White House, is buried at the Old Burial Ground in Halifax Nova Scotia, and the last time I visited there, his grave was covered in hash pipes; tributes left by smug and passive-aggressive Canadian patriots.
York isn't the White House. Was at York often when my brother reserved there. ( the reserve base). But yea, a surrender and white house went down. This is what I've read, I'm astonished how you remember ( teasing). But c'mon, you'd steam roll us now, but we got ya then. And ... hockey. Bat flip. lol. Just having fun, cheers!
It's not an issue, it's more just a tease up in Canada. Nobody talks about it. Everyones aware you'd blow us up now. Just let us have some fun with 1812. Not such a fun topic for native history on a serious note. But ya, you beat the brits, we beat u, now... well now is interesting... I'll leave it there lol.
One thing often left out is that DC was burned in retaliation for Americans burning York (modern Toronto) earlier in the war. Additionally the battle of Plattsburgh was also hugely important as it forced Prevost with his battle hardened troops to return to Canada
In 2012, the actual canadian government made a huge deal of the War of 1812 (which is NOT thaught in Québec's history class) and we celebrated the 200th anniversary of the war with museums expositions and our usual Royal Canadian Mint (we have special coins pretty much every year, sometimes more than once per year). It is also the last war that took place on Canadian land.
I'm no expert, but, didn't the Americans technically lose? Their goal was to take Canada and drive out the British, but that didn't go down too well, right? Britain, however, accomplished their goal of keeping the Americans out and losing no territory, so shouldn't they have won for ending the war on that note? (no youtube war of 2014 please, not trying to be rude)
I know right. Americans think they won/drew even though they failed to annex Canada fallowed by a blockade of their country. The British then destroyed Denver, Maryland, Captured New York and destroyed Detroit and burned their capital city to the ground. The failed their primary objectives even though Britain was focusing their armies on a more significant war. That is definitely not a draw.
Well the US succeeded in destroying Britain's Indian allies and toward the end of the war the US forces managed to blunt a couple of major British offensives (such as the attack on New York). The treaty that was signed reinforced the Status quo ante bellum - which sort of means that nobody won. But if you consider the British achievements in contrast to the US war aims - then yes. The British repulsed the US attack on Canada and managed to capture several important US cities. They also succeeded in shutting down the US coast and they prevented the US from supplying raw resources to continental Europe (a major driver for war). So I'd say Britain won, but it is equally valid to say that nobody won.
smalltime0 I wouldn't say it's equally valid to say it was a draw because their goals were different. The British goals were met whereas the Americans failed.
Ebeneezer stark That's right at the start of the war. But the British assaults on Washington and New York went beyond simply defending Canadian territory.
smalltime0 The American invasion of Canada went far beyond just trying to address trade & sailing rights. Sorry but how was Washington anything but a response to American actions in Canada? It was of no tactical value And the troop moment toward New York was incredibly half hearted amounting to nothing but one minor "fleet" battle on a lake. Might just as well call it a tempest in a tea cup.
GamesLegitament Yeah, Yeah, .... more or less. Depends from the point of view. This war was only possible in the context of the Napoleonic wars, both the for immediate causes of the war and the possibility of engaging Britain. On the other hand, it had nothing to do with the politics of the Napoleonic wars. It was a war fought to help Napoleon nor to weaken Britain. It was mostly a war caused by domestic causes and with domestic aims in mind, not with international or European war aims. Therefore, technically, it is not part of the Napoleonic wars, although it happened in the context of the Napoleonic wars.
+Ed Richardson Damn, speaking for an entire nation. Glad you are so enlightened to American beliefs. Please go back to your failed government systems and lack of ability to win your own wars.
Britain won the war, and the Canadians were the biggest winners of all. Canadian/British war aims were to defend the territorial integrity of the colonies, defend their homes and farms and way of life, and that's exactly what they did. I think it's silly to call it a draw. The US failed to accomplish most of it's objectives, while the other side accomplished all of theirs.
According to your logic, the British beat the Germans in the Battle of Britain because Britain merely survived while Germany failed to conquer Great Britain. Although Britain did an excellent job in thwarting Hitler's attempts to remove the last Allied power in Western Europe, it's hard to say that they won considering their citizens lived in fear all of that year of being bombed. One cannot simply declare winners in losers in wars based upon who accomplished their goals, especially petty ones such as preserving one's way of life. The official effects of the war are both concluded in the treaties that end them and in the policies and mental attitudes that prevail thereafter. That is why the War of 1812 was a draw in North America: the status quo was maintained, and this led to a disarmament of the American/Canadian border years later.
Alex Titus Saying that you cant declare winners or losers in war based upon the acomplished goals is honestly rediculous to say and I refuse to continue this conversation with you if you honestly think that way. Do you think wars are won and lost based on who killed more of who? shake your fucking head. If the D-day assault failed, I can 100% tell you for a fact the allies would have stood no chance and would have lost the war. Because we couldn't preserve our way of life. Something you all "petty". Don't worry, you clearly are submissive and I'll feel bad for you when you turn around and pull down your pants an say "here you go!!" when an enemy country knocks on your doorstep. You are foolish, sir.
+Vincente l This guy has fallen victim to the historic mistake of revisionism, where the actions of the past are judged by the morals and knowledge of the present. It is a fatal mistake to make. Judge actions by the knowledge and morality of the time I think most of these decisions were made by (then) good motivations, therefore we should celebrate the actions while acknowledging the unfortunate results.
+Adam Rafique-Clash of Clans "I hope corporations just stop taking over the US" I'll agree, though declaring the US to be a fascist regime is a bit misguided.
+Vincente l Though I think, in contrast to the histories of other empires and nations throughout the world, American history is pretty damn good. Every nation has dark aspects to its history that it's not proud of. There are most likely things we are doing today in our country that future Americans will look back on and condemn us for. The perspective of hundreds of years makes a lot of difference.
"Americans were confident that Canadians would join the US. When marching from Detroit, General William Hull informed the Canadians: 'You will be emancipated from tyranny and oppression and restored to the dignified station of free men' and the Canadians were like 'Yeah, we're okay actually.'" BRILLIANT! I love Americans, but their pomposity made the British look modest and self-effacing by comparison!
Yet in spite of the fact the American invading armies proclaimed they intended to liberate Canada the US historians continue to insist that it wasn't a goal. That way they don't have to admit they failed. You will be emancipated from tyranny and oppression, and restored to the dignified station of freemen. July 12, 1812, General Hull
jared pailing LOL that is unfair to China. China did free themselves from European control where as Americans are Europeans who stole Native lands and act as if by betraying their European ancestry they can delude themselves in to the idea they are "True" North Americans. Their self image is twisted out of necessity as its not a very pretty truth to start with.
Aha I kid I kid. Exactly though I suppose the top 1% of americans who benifited from breaking from Britain had to fool the lower class into believing they did the right thing somehow.
Ed Richardson Canadians also invaded native American land. What is so good about Canada, anyway? The US is way more powerful. And yeah, some of the things taught in classrooms is inaccurate, but the US is a country of, freedom, liberty, and yes, defiance. The only thing we can thank Canada for is Justin Beiber and maple syrup. "Sorry", did I offend you? Isn't that something you say up there? "Sorry"?
I remember reading somewhere: The Americans love the War of 1812 because they think they won, the Canadians love the War of 1812 because they think they won, and the British love the War of 1812 because they know they won.
“an episode in history that makes everybody happy, because everybody interprets it differently...the English are happiest of all, because they don’t even know it happened.”
We lost 1812, and it wasn't even close. British crushed us almost everywhere. The thing about 1812 was that we didn't buckle as a nation, and I think that's the lesson there, is that we took our asswhipping like men, didn't cry to go back to Britain, nor did we give an inch in negotiations.
Don't be so hard on yourselves ... At least America's Got Talent. Lots of talented basketball players. Especially Lebron James. He use to dunk sometimes. Then America's got Dunkin Donuts that's got lots of fried dough balls with holes, and don't forget the biggest hole of them all, the Grand Canyon. You can hire Mexicans to measure it if you'd like because America borders Mexico and the Mexicans there are immeasurably reproductive at finding the hole. There's a whole lot of them that do, but America is a country with a whole lot of talent at least that is why America's Got Talent such as golfers, they specialize at finding the hole, because that's where they hit their golf balls in attempts at hitting a hole in one. Then there is firing in the hole, something which Americans are also talented at as once an American president named Andrew Jackson led some Americans who fired into a whole lot of British soldiers in New Orleans, then the British soldiers either ran for their lives or fell down and died in a hole. A song was written about it by a talented American named Johnny Horton called the Battle of New Orleans. Johnny Horton loved donuts, probably because who wouldn't, besides the British since Americans fired holes into the British army at New Orleans like they were donuts being devoured by Americans.
@@matthewblairrains6032 "but they where not trying to invade" Oh my god, I can confirm that most people didn't even watch the video. The British were planning on establishing a Native American state in the Midwest, as well as annexing part of Northern Maine.
@Kenny Ben The British request for land came AFTER the war. Since the British won, and the Americans were weakened, they thought they could gain territory from the negotiations. The war did not start because of British aggression and desire to expand territory.
I have watched and loved crash course for a while, but now that I'm taking AP US History I appreciate these videos even more! Really, they help me understand and go deeper into the events way more than my textbook.
Side note: in the US history course I took, the teacher referred to Henry Clay (mentioned at 2:18), John C Calhoun, and Daniel Webster as the politicians that never died. That is to say, they pop up countless times in 19th century US history
America: Hey Canada I want resources I'm going to invade you now. Canada: Can you not? America: No ( Commences Invasion ) Canada: Where going to deny you after we beat Napoleon ( Defeats Napolean ) Completely denies invasion and burns the white house down. America: Yea We Won! U.S.A! Canada: k
+John Doe Since people in British North America (which was Canada before we asked nicely to be independent) were still referred to as British at the time and not Canadian yet, it is reasonable to say that Canadians, at least in part, could have been the ones to set it the white house aflame.
+John Doe Canada wasn't a country we were part of the British Empire, and a lot of Canadian born volunteers were placed in units from places parents or grandparents were from.
+John Doe Canada didn't become a nation until 1867. The difference between the British and British colonists that lived in what later would become Canada is practically irrelevant. Maybe consider political systems, citizenship and dates while you are reading those books.
It should be noted that there was no such thing as "Canada" in 1812. We weren't officially a country until 1867. What the US was invading were "the Canadas": the colonies of Upper Canada and Lower Canada, part of British North America at that time.
BS Semantics. Canada existed on maps since the 1500's. I don't know why people keep getting hung up on independent nation status. The USA history starts when they declared independence rejecting their British heritage. That is their choice, & does not apply to anyone else. Canada started with its French colonial founding as such is Older then the USA.
Roland Goodfellow Actually the Statue of Westminster (1931) gave Canada an independent Parliament that could make decisions without the approval of the Brits. I consider this as the beginning of Canada as a country independent of Britain.
oilersman95 So long as Canada keeps the Monarchy I'm not sure what the differences, is. Regardless of how autonomous the political system may be, culturally its the same people. HELL if the UK breaks up during the Scottish referendum the monarchy can just relocate to Canada.
Since I was a child I always liked to envision the US and Canada as half-brothers; the US being bred from their mother England and father Spain, while Canada born of England and father France. Canada is the "good" son who has kept in touch with it's mother and never created waves in the community. US is the young upstart, who *rebelled* in it's youth to be it's "own person" (so to speak), and continues to try maintain it's reputation as someone you shouldn't fuck with. The US is the older, tougher brother, where Canada, although bigger in size, is more the kinder, gentler young brother. They've had their differences, and even come to blows when they were growing up, with Canada showing at a early age that he won't be bullied, but they've resolved their major differences. Aside from occasionally picking on and name calling, they know that they can trust one another to have each other's back and rely on the brotherhood they share. In the future they may have a "falling-out", but for now, despite their current money problems, they remain Great North American Brothers. Oh, and Mexico is the US's other brother, whom he keeps trying to disassociate with, trying to put up *walls* in their relationship to keep it *out* of it's life, because the US thinks Mexico is *stealing* money from him. This was fun...
I wonder what things would be like had Tecumseh not been killed. I think it would be neat if there were a separate country inside the US, with native american culture preserved. and no, Indian reservations aren't the same thing.
+Flintstoned I wonder if they would have later expanded allowed them to have greater control. The USA is a big place but is many empty so them losing land wouldn't really make much of a difference to them
William Henry Harrison said that he could have easily built an empire like the Aztecs encompassing that area of North America, had it not been for the USA being right there.
+Mailna Harrison was running for President when he said that & is is customary to puff up their accomplishments when doing so. "Look at this big bad enemy I personally defeated." The biggest factor in the tribes uniting behind Tecumseh had far more to do with the threat posed by American expansion then Tecumseh's actual ability to inspire. At this point the tribes would have followed anyone who was fighting back.
+Flintstoned Probably not. With the invention of the railroad and mechanization in general, manifest destiny became a steamroller that no one could stop. It would only be postponing the inevitable.
there is actually u see the us signed a deal with the native so they could have ther own country but 2 decades later the usa forgot and pushed them of ther land
Rest of the World: You lost America: No we didnt! Rest of the World: You lost more battles, more men, had more taken prisoner, had more wounded, had your capital sacked and white house burned... America: New Orleans!! Rest of the World: k
+Colonel Sanders America: You lost Vietnam Vietnam: No we didn't! America: You lost more battles, more men, had more taken prisoner, had more wounded, had your capital bombed to shit, etc. Vietnam: Tet, which was technically still an American victory, but you eventually left. America: Whatevs No side won in 1812.
@Jonathan Radparvarno chance British victory all the way you came to conquer got pushed back, routed and had your white house burned down. That sounds like a resounding victory not a pyrrhic victory.
@@mrlondoner91 we got everything we wanted to accomplish, accomplished. Stop the impressment, stop the natives. We gained a lot from the war and it can be looked at various ways. Be happy about your stalemate when the USA declared independence from your tyrannical rule ✌
@@mrlondoner91 I dont think you can say we won. I agree with Jonathan, both sides achieved millitary objectives and had their own victories. But at the end of the day out ancestors chose peace in this war over annihilating the other opponent. At that time Britain could have poured everything into america and achieved a victory, there is a reason there was peace instead, because that's what people wanted. And for the love of god it's what people want now, rather than people bickering over who won, when they didnt even fight and die to have a say In it.
George Cockburn is my ancestor! I'm so excited you mentioned him in the video! I gotta tell you though it's pronounced Coh-burn. The spelling is just bad luck.
Britain, you can't just stop shipping. (150 years later) Cuba you can't do that, quick block off all shipping. Do what we tell you to do Cuba, DO WHAT WE TELL YOU TO DO!
+Felix Hammer not the same thing we were blocking trade from America to Cuba. Plenty of other Western countries were free to trade with them. Britain impressed Americans who tried to trade with France even though they had no jurisdiction on American trade so that's where the difference lies.
Loved the Canada Jokes!! Love Crash Course too, history was a really dry subject in school. This is way more interesting and fun. Even if this is like 4 years old video ^_^
Thank you :) I am an adult going back to finish a second degree and have to take History. Your videos are very helpful and entertaining. Even my school (CSU) Colorado State University uses them in our classes.
hey guys! Thanks again for such a lovely and well done video. Teaching history is sometimes tricky when it is not your primary passion and I know I can always count on your videos to help me to better understand!
With out debate over controversial events & how they are portrayed how do you know you watching history & not a white wash? You do know there is a difference don't you?
Ed Richardson To be fair, there's a difference between comments debating controversy and comments that shout "CANADA SUCKS" and "CANADA BITCHES !!!! Oh canada !! But fuck the queen!!"
Fun facts: The bald eagle doesn't make that sound you think it does, that sound comes from the red-tailed hawk. The majority of the bald eagles' nesting grounds are in Canada, making them mostly native Canadians. And many of the Founding Fathers of the USA wanted the wild turkey to be their national animal because the turkey was more noble in their minds. The bald eagle scavenges and steals its food rather than hunting it more often than not, which is cowardly, and clearly not cool by capitalist standards.
fortheallince Congrats on those birds, but, Colorado has a very small bird population compared to Canada and the rest of the states. Fun fact #2: Canada has more natural farming and less Monsanto, in comparison to America. Both countries have fake meat of all kinds though. I personally prefer the organic, Canadian made/butchered bacon; or as some of us might call it: meat-candy :D
No, Ben Franklin once wrote in a letter about adding the turkey as the national bird.. It was not officially stated and definitely not wide spread. Also, any bald eagle that lives in Canada is simply just visiting, this way they get a real appreciation for true freedom of the US by viewing an oppressed communist country that is Canada. (because this is the internet, I want to mention that is 100% satire)
@@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121 What? Canada was Britain until we separated and made it our own country. Meaning 1812 Canadians are the same thing as British people. Great Britain won the war of 1812, not Canada. Which is how it goes when getting taught history in Canada. Stupid yank.
No one caught the Bioshock Infinite reference at 7:30? Excellent work there thoughtbubble. And I'm pretty sure this video came out around the same time the game released.
"In 1814 we took a little trip, along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip. We took a little bacon and we took a little beans, and we fought the bloody British in the town of New Orleans."
Amarianee -There once was a man named Madison, he's the president you know, he thought he'd tell the British, right where they could go, he said "we'll invade Canada", he thought he was so tough, instead we went to washingtoooooonnnn.... and burned down all his stuff! And the Whitehouse burned burned burned, and we're the ones that did it, it burned burned burned, and the president ran and cried
Adversary DOT-Communist It doesn't matter if was strategic or not. It was the capitol of the United States. It was sacked and razed. That is an overwhelming victory for the British. As to New Orleans. Yes that battle was a victory for the US, however the British just sailed down the coast and captured another area. Then they got word that the War was over and they went home. The Invasion of Upper Canada was the failed start of an attempt to capture BNA. This was said that it would only be a matter of marching and then they where to march on Halifax in 1813. However the stiff resolve of defence of the Local Red Coats, Canadians, Natives, and American Immigrants proved the US wrong. The United States had hoped for a quick victory in the war, and it turned out to be a very very costly war that brought the US Economy to its knees.
All I'll say to the Murican Revisionists who claim the burning of Washtub DC 'did not matter' is this... Bladensburg, the battle where Jimmy 'the Warmonger' Madison and his sordid crew ran from a numerically inferior force with their tails between their legs like whipped dogs... War is expensive, a nation with no domestic taxes whose income depends entirely on trade tariffs in it's blockaded ports, that has NO way to pay it's war debt, gets it's capital burnt to the ground by enemy forces, and responds by sending diplomats to Europe, uninvited, to negotiate a peace, in a treaty that specifically forbade said nation from claiming Canadian soil... That's not a win, that's "our bankers have cut off our overdraft, time to surrender gracefully and hope we don't get too screwed..."
+Thanato "It doesn't matter if was strategic or not. It was the capitol of the United States. It was sacked and razed. That is an overwhelming victory for the British. " Capit*A*l of the US. Capitol is one of the seven hills of rome and a type of government building (in the case of the United States federal government the one the Congress with its two houses/chambers resides in) named after the imperial roman palace built on it. Capital is the word for a "head city" (the literal meaning of capital) including all other kinds of buildings besides capitols. And burning a parliamentary building or the "Executive mansion" isn't winning a war just like burning down Moscow didn't let Napoleon "win" _his_ russian campaign. As long as you don't get a hold of the government and can turn that into a negotiation position it is unimportant who holds the house it usually sits in. As long as the administration can and does work, you haven't won anything but a thinly veiled symbolic strike.
Traditionally, achievement of war aims names the victor in war. The US wished to annex the Canadas (North and South) which it failed to do. Great Britain wished to repel an American invasion into it's crown territories, which it was able to achieve, but it did not wish to take control of America again as it would have been economically unviable due to the debts it amassed during the Napoleonic Wars. So to this end, Britain did win the War of 1812, however neither side (aside from the Indians of course) actually suffered any serious repercussions and the war itself did not have have a significant direct impact, although it did indirectly bring many benefits to the US. It's like someone trying to take your pencil and you stopping them. Sure you stopped them, but the point of it has been lost somewhere.
It's a country, not a woman. I mean, come on, man. Just listen to some of the stuff our forefathers signed on to. How do you take pride in this crap? Because it just happened to benefit you?
Kaiser Louis-Philip V Sure its nation but isn't a critical historical examination more honest then mythologizing it? Pride is more about ego then sincere affection. My people were largely stone age tech when the Europeans showed up, not a whole lot to boast about compared to putting a man on the moon but we are good people. Fought bravely for the causes we believed in. We had our heroes & villains. Triumphs & Failures. (America coming in to being was not of any particular benefit to my people really.) What do you want to compare your Nation to? Rome? British Empire at its peak? So its not as good as you hoped, is it as bad as it could have been ether? Our feelings about the past shouldn't be too nostalgic, after all the reason we study the past to better understand where we are going.
In Chatham, Ontario there is a park in our Downtown area called "Tecumseh Park" which has a Canon near the Thames River which is actually the historic site of the war of 1812 during the Battle of the Thames. The canon is pretty much a landmark here in Chatham-Kent and they have signs along the path towards it that shows some history from the war.
Okay, kids. Britain won, we get it. It was important to the US as England stopped seizing US ships, we stood up to a great power and survived which made other countries respect us a lot more. It also helped us in production advances.
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you tried to invade Canada but then ended up with a burned down white house and a shitty peace treaty. and by a smaller british force might i add. and no, the usa lost a lot of respect after the war, due to the fact that the british army only had about 4000 regular troops there. most of the fighting was done by canadian farmers. you should of had it in the bag, but instead ended up with nothing. american war goals: annex canada and push the british out of america. british war goals: defend canada form US attack then counter attack until peace treaty is signed
Anime Uploader uhhh it was us awesome Canadians who burned your White House lol also when you USA residents tried to steal Germany hill in WW1 you failed Canada stepped in we won now in Germany the German bunker hill is part of a museum
The Colonies under British rule were run as business ventures with little interference from parliament unless asked for by those businesses. The Hudson Bay Company ran Most of what is modern day Canada. It was Businesses in Quebec & Ontario (Upper Canada) that lobbied for Canadian independence. It was all about money. Fact is independence made little difference for the vast majority of people regardless American Canadian or any where else in the Empire. A lot of very rich people gained & lost in the changes though.
We had not just one but two failed wannabe American Revolutions and then we just asked nicely. By that time Canada was seen by the British as not worth the effort to keep under control and let us have a semi-independent Dominion (because Americans were squeamish about having a Kingdom border them). So basically the Canadians were pretty much one of the only nations to gain independence by asking nicely. That sounds quintessentially Canadian to me. And I'm Canadian!
Deathshead1923 They were NOT "Wanna be American" Revolutions both happened because of outrage at local corruption not British Tyranny which is how the Americans fancy theirs to be. In short there wasn't enough British oversight. Which historicaly has actually more often the cause of problems in British colonies.
John Green: "And no matter how you feel about America's international interventions, you need to remember it didn't begin in Afghanistan or even Europe. It started with freakin' Canada". Canadians: "Sorry."
What did Canada win? We fought Britain, not Canada. It wasn't even a country, it was the name of the colony under the British Empire. They also had two failed wanna-be Wars of Independence, called the Upper and Lower Canadian Rebellions, where they actually asked for American assistance. Lel.
Thank you for putting the "This Machine Kills Fascists" sticker on your laptop and always making it visible in these videos. You do sometimes bend over backwards a little bit to have a balanced framing in some of these but this makes it clear you're doing that for appeal to a wider audience and beneath the centrist persona, you know what's up.
In sixth grade, I binge-watched these videos for fun and scoffed at the high schoolers in the comments who had AP history tests in, like, two days. Anyways, guess what I have in two days.
Someone once said that the Americans are okay with the War of 1812 because they think they won, they Canadians are okay with it because they KNOW they won and the British are okay with it because they've forgotten all about it.
Here in Britain War of 1812 is more likely to mean Napoleon vs. Russia than this.
Sgt. Justice The Roman's didn't record losses either.
Actually it was British soldiers who burnt down the Whitehouse these soldiers, were fresh out of Europe British forces where sent into a offensive taking countless land.
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Zane Smith Tell us about your personal experience with our Healthcare system. Not anecdotal or hearsay. Your actual experience.
The war of 1812 is like the straight to dvd sequel that most people didn’t watch and those who did forgot about it
I’m pretty sure that the moral of the story is that nobody won, but the natives lost.
The natives started losing as soon as Virginia was 'discovered".
Whenever Americans lose they claim that "nobody won" LOL
@@davecabansay8965 lmao so true
@@davecabansay8965 The US didn't lose, in fact the last battle of the war ended in a Big American Victory.
@@neelmehta9069 The US did lose. Americans invaded Canada first with the purpose of annexing it. And they failed.
But since we're talking about victories, let's not forget the burning of Washington. If a foreign army occupies your capital and burns down your palace, you've lost lol.
*America: I wAnt lAnd!*
*Canada: I AIn't gIvIng yOU mY lAnd!*
*Britain: **_fIIIIIIIIIIIght!_*
This channel has been a life saver for the audio/visual learners while schools are closed, thank you
The U.S lose one fight against Canada
they don't talk about it
As it was
Excuse me if I question the education quality in the third world
dont worry. Now trump will be president. I m so ready for the fall of USA
Campaign failed, troops kicked out, more casualites, ports blockade, capital burned to the ground.
Only an ignorant could call that a draw.
***** He gave up anyways
Sometimes I just miss John Green and just binge his old stuff.
"It's hard out there for a cockburn"
Your videos are a godsend for college students. This has really helped me study for a test. Thank you to everyone who help make your videos!
Who else had online school bring em here
Dragon Creates Yep, good luck
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Americans “the Vietnam war was the first war America lost”
Canadians “gonna stop you right there kiddo”
that's a myth, the U.S.A never lost one engagement in Vietnam including the TED offensive, we got everything we wanted and left, natural resources, sadly thats how it works.
The peace terms that ended the war were those of status quo ante bellum, “the state of things as they were before the war.” So, while the War of 1812 was legally a tie-a wash-in terms of territorial acquisitions, historians now look at its long term effects to judge who won.
The Americans declared war (for the first time in their nation’s history) to stop British impressment, reopen the trade lanes with France, remove British support from Native American tribes, and to secure their territorial honor and integrity in the face of their old rulers. All four of these goals were achieved by the time peace broke out, although some British measures were scheduled to be repealed before the war had even begun. By establishing a respected footing with Britain and Canada, the United States also experienced a commercial boom in the years after the war. The overall result of the war was probably positive for the nation as a whole.
The British gained little to nothing from the war, save for an honorable friendship with the United States. Valuable resources were diverted from the battlefields of Europe for the War of 1812, which brought no land or treasure to the crown. The British also lost their Native American lodgment against United States expansion, further unleashing the growth of a major global trade competitor. However, the British did ultimately defeat France in their long war while avoiding a fiasco in North America, which is a considerable victory in the context of the global conflict they waged.
@@mega00760 The US never lost a battle in Vietnam, but they never won the war because it wasn't a territorial war. Just like US never gained any land in the war of 1812, but again they didnt lose the war because it again wasnt a territorial war.
Kartkid024 We did the lose the war just because we never lost a battle doesn’t change that, our goal from the beginning was to preserve South Vietnam as a separate entity from North Vietnam and we failed to do so
@@auspiciouspotato3515 that's pretty much exactly what I just said, but yes you're correct.
The moral of this story: No one wants Detroit lol
As a person living 30 minutes from Detroit, I can 100% back that statement up.
@@nash1806 bro sameeeeeeeee
NIGGAS HAVE DETROIT
CANT NOT HAVE DETROIT IN DETROIT
I think you can count the War of 1812 as a win for The British Empire.
If the america tried to invade a british dominion and the british stopped them I would count that as a victory.
The war of 1812. AKA...
American Revolution:
THE REMATCH
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Sounds like a bad spin-off movie
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Yep.
*ALL Child MoLesters, NEVER use a REAL NAME!!!*
Or as it's known in the UK, The War of 1812. AKA...
Napoleonic Wars: Side Stories
America: #1812 first win. Canada:Umm no I remember a White House being burned.
I remember York getting burned down, too. Hm
BRITISH troops burnt D.C, and if Canada lost its capital, so too did the U.S so you can just bugger off. Why is this still an issue
...and we made them our pants, and got Laura Secord chocolate out of it :D
Also, Robert Ross, the guy who ordered the burning of the White House, is buried at the Old Burial Ground in Halifax Nova Scotia, and the last time I visited there, his grave was covered in hash pipes; tributes left by smug and passive-aggressive Canadian patriots.
York isn't the White House. Was at York often when my brother reserved there. ( the reserve base). But yea, a surrender and white house went down. This is what I've read, I'm astonished how you remember ( teasing). But c'mon, you'd steam roll us now, but we got ya then. And ... hockey. Bat flip. lol. Just having fun, cheers!
It's not an issue, it's more just a tease up in Canada. Nobody talks about it. Everyones aware you'd blow us up now. Just let us have some fun with 1812. Not such a fun topic for native history on a serious note. But ya, you beat the brits, we beat u, now... well now is interesting... I'll leave it there lol.
One thing often left out is that DC was burned in retaliation for Americans burning York (modern Toronto) earlier in the war. Additionally the battle of Plattsburgh was also hugely important as it forced Prevost with his battle hardened troops to return to Canada
In 2012, the actual canadian government made a huge deal of the War of 1812 (which is NOT thaught in Québec's history class) and we celebrated the 200th anniversary of the war with museums expositions and our usual Royal Canadian Mint (we have special coins pretty much every year, sometimes more than once per year). It is also the last war that took place on Canadian land.
"we would forever be Canada's pants" I laughed my ass off.
You would think after watching this nearly 13 min video that I would know more about the War of 1812.
“When your entire civilization gets John C Calhouned” That one made me laugh
that fault in our stars reference was amazing
I'm no expert, but, didn't the Americans technically lose? Their goal was to take Canada and drive out the British, but that didn't go down too well, right? Britain, however, accomplished their goal of keeping the Americans out and losing no territory, so shouldn't they have won for ending the war on that note?
(no youtube war of 2014 please, not trying to be rude)
I know right. Americans think they won/drew even though they failed to annex Canada fallowed by a blockade of their country. The British then destroyed Denver, Maryland, Captured New York and destroyed Detroit and burned their capital city to the ground. The failed their primary objectives even though Britain was focusing their armies on a more significant war. That is definitely not a draw.
Well the US succeeded in destroying Britain's Indian allies and toward the end of the war the US forces managed to blunt a couple of major British offensives (such as the attack on New York). The treaty that was signed reinforced the Status quo ante bellum - which sort of means that nobody won.
But if you consider the British achievements in contrast to the US war aims - then yes. The British repulsed the US attack on Canada and managed to capture several important US cities. They also succeeded in shutting down the US coast and they prevented the US from supplying raw resources to continental Europe (a major driver for war). So I'd say Britain won, but it is equally valid to say that nobody won.
smalltime0 I wouldn't say it's equally valid to say it was a draw because their goals were different. The British goals were met whereas the Americans failed.
Ebeneezer stark
That's right at the start of the war. But the British assaults on Washington and New York went beyond simply defending Canadian territory.
smalltime0 The American invasion of Canada went far beyond just trying to address trade & sailing rights.
Sorry but how was Washington anything but a response to American actions in Canada? It was of no tactical value And the troop moment toward New York was incredibly half hearted amounting to nothing but one minor "fleet" battle on a lake. Might just as well call it a tempest in a tea cup.
Technically, this war was just a part of the Napoleonic wars.
GamesLegitament Americans don't like to see it that way. It reflects badly on them.
I'm an American and i dont care, sure it was part of the napoleonic wars. No skin of my back.
GamesLegitament Yeah, Yeah, .... more or less. Depends from the point of view. This war was only possible in the context of the Napoleonic wars, both the for immediate causes of the war and the possibility of engaging Britain. On the other hand, it had nothing to do with the politics of the Napoleonic wars. It was a war fought to help Napoleon nor to weaken Britain. It was mostly a war caused by domestic causes and with domestic aims in mind, not with international or European war aims. Therefore, technically, it is not part of the Napoleonic wars, although it happened in the context of the Napoleonic wars.
+Jared Dixon Yeah I comment about stuff I don't actually care about all the time...
+Ed Richardson Damn, speaking for an entire nation. Glad you are so enlightened to American beliefs. Please go back to your failed government systems and lack of ability to win your own wars.
Fun fact: It was during the British/ Canadian shelling of Baltimore that the U.S anthem was written
Yes! Everyone forgets that. Our national anthem was made in Maryland.
Britain won the war, and the Canadians were the biggest winners of all. Canadian/British war aims were to defend the territorial integrity of the colonies, defend their homes and farms and way of life, and that's exactly what they did. I think it's silly to call it a draw. The US failed to accomplish most of it's objectives, while the other side accomplished all of theirs.
its called a draw because America doesnt wana be the loser and Canada is too nice to make them feel bad about it.
According to your logic, the British beat the Germans in the Battle of Britain because Britain merely survived while Germany failed to conquer Great Britain. Although Britain did an excellent job in thwarting Hitler's attempts to remove the last Allied power in Western Europe, it's hard to say that they won considering their citizens lived in fear all of that year of being bombed. One cannot simply declare winners in losers in wars based upon who accomplished their goals, especially petty ones such as preserving one's way of life. The official effects of the war are both concluded in the treaties that end them and in the policies and mental attitudes that prevail thereafter. That is why the War of 1812 was a draw in North America: the status quo was maintained, and this led to a disarmament of the American/Canadian border years later.
Uhm. Yes. Britiain did win the battle of britain because they surived while germany failed to conquer them.... are you daft?
Alex Titus by YOUR logic, the British didnt win the battle of Britain because the citizens were scared at the time. Hmm. what makes more sense?
Alex Titus Saying that you cant declare winners or losers in war based upon the acomplished goals is honestly rediculous to say and I refuse to continue this conversation with you if you honestly think that way. Do you think wars are won and lost based on who killed more of who? shake your fucking head. If the D-day assault failed, I can 100% tell you for a fact the allies would have stood no chance and would have lost the war. Because we couldn't preserve our way of life. Something you all "petty". Don't worry, you clearly are submissive and I'll feel bad for you when you turn around and pull down your pants an say "here you go!!" when an enemy country knocks on your doorstep. You are foolish, sir.
"Why aren't you more celebratory of American history?"
"Why isn't there more to celebrate?"
+Adam Rafique-Clash of Clans I don't think you have the slightest comprehension of what that term means.
+Vincente l This guy has fallen victim to the historic mistake of revisionism, where the actions of the past are judged by the morals and knowledge of the present. It is a fatal mistake to make. Judge actions by the knowledge and morality of the time I think most of these decisions were made by (then) good motivations, therefore we should celebrate the actions while acknowledging the unfortunate results.
+CoachEgg I like this guy.
+Adam Rafique-Clash of Clans "I hope corporations just stop taking over the US" I'll agree, though declaring the US to be a fascist regime is a bit misguided.
+Vincente l Though I think, in contrast to the histories of other empires and nations throughout the world, American history is pretty damn good. Every nation has dark aspects to its history that it's not proud of. There are most likely things we are doing today in our country that future Americans will look back on and condemn us for. The perspective of hundreds of years makes a lot of difference.
"Americans were confident that Canadians would join the US. When marching from Detroit, General William Hull informed the Canadians: 'You will be emancipated from tyranny and oppression and restored to the dignified station of free men' and the Canadians were like 'Yeah, we're okay actually.'"
BRILLIANT!
I love Americans, but their pomposity made the British look modest and self-effacing by comparison!
John: Long speeches? Fatal!
Me: Finally! Someone else gets it!
I loved the claim they were "liberating" Canada from "tyrany", same excuse back then as they use now to go to war.
Yet in spite of the fact the American invading armies proclaimed they intended to liberate Canada the US historians continue to insist that it wasn't a goal. That way they don't have to admit they failed.
You will be emancipated from tyranny and oppression, and restored to the dignified station of freemen. July 12, 1812, General Hull
American education and Chinese educationare similar in the fact they portray their nation as liberators and freedom fighters. Propaganda machines!
jared pailing LOL that is unfair to China. China did free themselves from European control where as Americans are Europeans who stole Native lands and act as if by betraying their European ancestry they can delude themselves in to the idea they are "True" North Americans. Their self image is twisted out of necessity as its not a very pretty truth to start with.
Aha I kid I kid. Exactly though I suppose the top 1% of americans who benifited from breaking from Britain had to fool the lower class into believing they did the right thing somehow.
Ed Richardson Canadians also invaded native American land. What is so good about Canada, anyway? The US is way more powerful. And yeah, some of the things taught in classrooms is inaccurate, but the US is a country of, freedom, liberty, and yes, defiance. The only thing we can thank Canada for is Justin Beiber and maple syrup. "Sorry", did I offend you? Isn't that something you say up there? "Sorry"?
I remember reading somewhere:
The Americans love the War of 1812 because they think they won, the Canadians love the War of 1812 because they think they won, and the British love the War of 1812 because they know they won.
Canada was a British colony at the time they became a country in 1867
“The events of the War of 1812 have not been forgotten in England for they have never been known there.”
“an episode in history that makes everybody happy, because everybody interprets it differently...the English are happiest of all, because they don’t even know it happened.”
Yeah thats why we are a UK bitch!!!!
Jack Spratt Technically Canada was Britain, so we won because we where British and Britain won.
We lost 1812, and it wasn't even close. British crushed us almost everywhere. The thing about 1812 was that we didn't buckle as a nation, and I think that's the lesson there, is that we took our asswhipping like men, didn't cry to go back to Britain, nor did we give an inch in negotiations.
Don't be so hard on yourselves ... At least America's Got Talent. Lots of talented basketball players. Especially Lebron James. He use to dunk sometimes. Then America's got Dunkin Donuts that's got lots of fried dough balls with holes, and don't forget the biggest hole of them all, the Grand Canyon. You can hire Mexicans to measure it if you'd like because America borders Mexico and the Mexicans there are immeasurably reproductive at finding the hole. There's a whole lot of them that do, but America is a country with a whole lot of talent at least that is why America's Got Talent such as golfers, they specialize at finding the hole, because that's where they hit their golf balls in attempts at hitting a hole in one. Then there is firing in the hole, something which Americans are also talented at as once an American president named Andrew Jackson led some Americans who fired into a whole lot of British soldiers in New Orleans, then the British soldiers either ran for their lives or fell down and died in a hole. A song was written about it by a talented American named Johnny Horton called the Battle of New Orleans. Johnny Horton loved donuts, probably because who wouldn't, besides the British since Americans fired holes into the British army at New Orleans like they were donuts being devoured by Americans.
Antifreeze Corruptions No, netiher side won. Canada may have noot been not apart of the US, but the US kept its sovereignty.
Kenny Ben but they where not trying to invade
@@matthewblairrains6032 "but they where not trying to invade"
Oh my god, I can confirm that most people didn't even watch the video. The British were planning on establishing a Native American state in the Midwest, as well as annexing part of Northern Maine.
@Kenny Ben The British request for land came AFTER the war. Since the British won, and the Americans were weakened, they thought they could gain territory from the negotiations. The war did not start because of British aggression and desire to expand territory.
8:40 "It's hard out there for a Cockburn"
*Scratch* *Scratch*
I have watched and loved crash course for a while, but now that I'm taking AP US History I appreciate these videos even more! Really, they help me understand and go deeper into the events way more than my textbook.
Side note: in the US history course I took, the teacher referred to Henry Clay (mentioned at 2:18), John C Calhoun, and Daniel Webster as the politicians that never died. That is to say, they pop up countless times in 19th century US history
America: Hey Canada I want resources I'm going to invade you now.
Canada: Can you not?
America: No ( Commences Invasion )
Canada: Where going to deny you after we beat Napoleon ( Defeats Napolean ) Completely denies invasion and burns the white house down.
America: Yea We Won! U.S.A!
Canada: k
+jukebox_alex it definetly was the British, only reason we attacked and expecially when the British were sitting in forts on American land
+John Doe Since people in British North America (which was Canada before we asked nicely to be independent) were still referred to as British at the time and not Canadian yet, it is reasonable to say that Canadians, at least in part, could have been the ones to set it the white house aflame.
+John Doe Canada wasn't a country we were part of the British Empire, and a lot of Canadian born volunteers were placed in units from places parents or grandparents were from.
+John Doe Canada didn't become a nation until 1867. The difference between the British and British colonists that lived in what later would become Canada is practically irrelevant. Maybe consider political systems, citizenship and dates while you are reading those books.
Why do you guys even take pride in a victory over the US from so l9ng ago trying to fill the gap between a inferiority complex?
You have been my teacher for middle school and high school. I'm in college now. Thank you.
My ancestor was friends with Tecumseh, he was General Sir Isaac Brock.
That's the one
That is awesome
i made an essay on your ancestor in grade 6
Damn.... That's really, really cool.
I was Isaac's boss.
It should be noted that there was no such thing as "Canada" in 1812. We weren't officially a country until 1867. What the US was invading were "the Canadas": the colonies of Upper Canada and Lower Canada, part of British North America at that time.
BS Semantics. Canada existed on maps since the 1500's. I don't know why people keep getting hung up on independent nation status.
The USA history starts when they declared independence rejecting their British heritage. That is their choice, & does not apply to anyone else.
Canada started with its French colonial founding as such is Older then the USA.
and the canadas were all apart of the british territory of canada, and the people of canada were not colonists, rather they were canadians
1982 Actually***
Roland Goodfellow Actually the Statue of Westminster (1931) gave Canada an independent Parliament that could make decisions without the approval of the Brits. I consider this as the beginning of Canada as a country independent of Britain.
oilersman95 So long as Canada keeps the Monarchy I'm not sure what the differences, is. Regardless of how autonomous the political system may be, culturally its the same people. HELL if the UK breaks up during the Scottish referendum the monarchy can just relocate to Canada.
Since I was a child I always liked to envision the US and Canada as half-brothers; the US being bred from their mother England and father Spain, while Canada born of England and father France.
Canada is the "good" son who has kept in touch with it's mother and never created waves in the community.
US is the young upstart, who *rebelled* in it's youth to be it's "own person" (so to speak), and continues to try maintain it's reputation as someone you shouldn't fuck with.
The US is the older, tougher brother, where Canada, although bigger in size, is more the kinder, gentler young brother.
They've had their differences, and even come to blows when they were growing up, with Canada showing at a early age that he won't be bullied, but they've resolved their major differences.
Aside from occasionally picking on and name calling, they know that they can trust one another to have each other's back and rely on the brotherhood they share.
In the future they may have a "falling-out", but for now, despite their current money problems, they remain Great North American Brothers.
Oh, and Mexico is the US's other brother, whom he keeps trying to disassociate with, trying to put up *walls* in their relationship to keep it *out* of it's life, because the US thinks Mexico is *stealing* money from him.
This was fun...
Haha. Even when Canadians are trying to brag about winning they're so nice about it.
I am sorry that it seems like we are bragging. We are just replicating the US in other comments but...
GG ez win boi.
Cinestar Productions because Americans are sensitive.
They really shouldn't be bragging, Canada wasn't even a nation yet.
Clan Killer 15t Ez win?😂 You think you can compete with us?
The U.S. burned Toronto in the war. Even though it was named York at the time
I wonder what things would be like had Tecumseh not been killed. I think it would be neat if there were a separate country inside the US, with native american culture preserved.
and no, Indian reservations aren't the same thing.
+Flintstoned I wonder if they would have later expanded allowed them to have greater control. The USA is a big place but is many empty so them losing land wouldn't really make much of a difference to them
William Henry Harrison said that he could have easily built an empire like the Aztecs encompassing that area of North America, had it not been for the USA being right there.
+Mailna Harrison was running for President when he said that & is is customary to puff up their accomplishments when doing so. "Look at this big bad enemy I personally defeated."
The biggest factor in the tribes uniting behind Tecumseh had far more to do with the threat posed by American expansion then Tecumseh's actual ability to inspire. At this point the tribes would have followed anyone who was fighting back.
+Flintstoned Probably not. With the invention of the railroad and mechanization in general, manifest destiny became a steamroller that no one could stop. It would only be postponing the inevitable.
there is actually u see the us signed a deal with the native so they could have ther own country but 2 decades later the usa forgot and pushed them of ther land
Britain: the brexit was the most stupid thing any country could ever do
USA: hold my drink
*dumbest
Samuel Cameron France :Bet I could do better
Ayy I'm Spooky Now! Even though the pound fell?
Ayy I'm Spooky Now! It's hasn't recovered the Pound is still worth 1.18 USD from 1.87USD
Ayy I'm Spooky Now! GG
Rest of the World: You lost
America: No we didnt!
Rest of the World: You lost more battles, more men, had more taken prisoner, had more wounded, had your capital sacked and white house burned...
America: New Orleans!!
Rest of the World: k
+Colonel Sanders Wow your name made me laugh my ass off after I read your comment.
Well, we stood up to a great power and survived...
+Anime Uploader As they said in the video, they didn't want to take any land because of their policy at the end of the Napoleonic wars
Thanks, this is why I disliked the video.
+Colonel Sanders
America: You lost Vietnam
Vietnam: No we didn't!
America: You lost more battles, more men, had more taken prisoner, had more wounded, had your capital bombed to shit, etc.
Vietnam: Tet, which was technically still an American victory, but you eventually left.
America: Whatevs
No side won in 1812.
Great stuff.
The British Invasion that started with the Beatles, happened in 1964, not 1961.
my history teacher played this video in class and we learned a lot.
Thanks
Crash course should make a compilation vid of John getting shocked
oh my gosh yes!! XD
AND WE BURNED IT TO THE GROUND. That frikin song is stuck in my head
same bud
Same!
Canadians, such as myself, see the war of 1812 as a victory because we succesfully defended ourselves against the United States
@Jonathan Radparvarno chance British victory all the way you came to conquer got pushed back, routed and had your white house burned down. That sounds like a resounding victory not a pyrrhic victory.
@Jonathan Radparvar negative we won🇬🇧
@@mrlondoner91 we got everything we wanted to accomplish, accomplished. Stop the impressment, stop the natives. We gained a lot from the war and it can be looked at various ways. Be happy about your stalemate when the USA declared independence from your tyrannical rule ✌
@@mrlondoner91 I dont think you can say we won. I agree with Jonathan, both sides achieved millitary objectives and had their own victories. But at the end of the day out ancestors chose peace in this war over annihilating the other opponent. At that time Britain could have poured everything into america and achieved a victory, there is a reason there was peace instead, because that's what people wanted. And for the love of god it's what people want now, rather than people bickering over who won, when they didnt even fight and die to have a say In it.
I saw that little reference to the fault in our stars John, sneaky ^~^
George Cockburn is my ancestor! I'm so excited you mentioned him in the video! I gotta tell you though it's pronounced Coh-burn. The spelling is just bad luck.
"we would forever be canada's pants" -- john green 2013
oh hai mark
No.
Canada would forever be America's hat
Hey, Britain? Could you come burn down DC again? You would be doing us a GREAT service.
Sincerely,
The US.
Dear US
will talk to dad
Signed
Canada
lol
Dear Canada
do you need us to come burn down toronto again?
Sincerely,
The U.S
Why was there no mention of General Sir Isaac Brock and the military genius that saved British Canada in 1812?
He starts the video by saying he doesnt intend to focus on the actual fighting part of the war and he sticjs to that
@@leaffinite2001
Well he fu%ked up.
That guy needs mention.
1joshjosh1 no
"Crazy conspiratorial Anglophobia" Mel Gibson was alive in 1812?
Britain, you can't just stop shipping.
(150 years later)
Cuba you can't do that, quick block off all shipping. Do what we tell you to do Cuba, DO WHAT WE TELL YOU TO DO!
I'm only joking you know we love you really America.
At least we are normalizing our relations with Cuba again, it's about time anyway.
We Americans love you guys too... Except for Brexit... Jk :).
+Felix Hammer not the same thing we were blocking trade from America to Cuba. Plenty of other Western countries were free to trade with them. Britain impressed Americans who tried to trade with France even though they had no jurisdiction on American trade so that's where the difference lies.
Yeah well, America learned from the best.
Loved the Canada Jokes!! Love Crash Course too, history was a really dry subject in school. This is way more interesting and fun. Even if this is like 4 years old video ^_^
Thank you :) I am an adult going back to finish a second degree and have to take History. Your videos are very helpful and entertaining. Even my school (CSU) Colorado State University uses them in our classes.
APUSH exam 2019 tomorrow..
elthe same lmao
elthe good luck on urs
@@llGuydll good luck to you too!
good luck comrades
Trying to cram 39 episodes in one night for tomorrow 😭
8:11 THE FAULT IN OUR STARS!!
I live near Detroit, I bet if Canada was still in control of it, it would be a hell of a lot better.
I'm not even in APUSH anymore, I just love US History
hey guys!
Thanks again for such a lovely and well done video. Teaching history is sometimes tricky when it is not your primary passion and I know I can always count on your videos to help me to better understand!
This comment section is the perfect example on why I hate watching history on the internet.
With out debate over controversial events & how they are portrayed how do you know you watching history & not a white wash? You do know there is a difference don't you?
Ed Richardson To be fair, there's a difference between comments debating controversy and comments that shout "CANADA SUCKS" and "CANADA BITCHES !!!! Oh canada !! But fuck the queen!!"
Smithy0013 They are still somewhat butt hurt about it.
I'm Canadian and i say WE WON
You're Welcome for the true part of history ppl who liked
Of course you would say that. Silly Canadians
Matthew Brunette What Would you call the burning of the white house silly Americans
TheNormalKitty Hoovy burning of the white house
TheNormalKitty Hoovy
What do you call the burning of your capital (Toronto)? By the way, Britain burned the White House.
Lost me at “excellent Canadian health care”. As a Canadian I promise it only works on paper.
Fun facts:
The bald eagle doesn't make that sound you think it does, that sound comes from the red-tailed hawk. The majority of the bald eagles' nesting grounds are in Canada, making them mostly native Canadians. And many of the Founding Fathers of the USA wanted the wild turkey to be their national animal because the turkey was more noble in their minds. The bald eagle scavenges and steals its food rather than hunting it more often than not, which is cowardly, and clearly not cool by capitalist standards.
Well guess what, Colorado has eagles and red-tailed hawks. So, hah, go back to your fake bacon Canadians. (and we have wild turkeys too)
fortheallince
Congrats on those birds, but, Colorado has a very small bird population compared to Canada and the rest of the states. Fun fact #2: Canada has more natural farming and less Monsanto, in comparison to America. Both countries have fake meat of all kinds though. I personally prefer the organic, Canadian made/butchered bacon; or as some of us might call it: meat-candy :D
No, Ben Franklin once wrote in a letter about adding the turkey as the national bird.. It was not officially stated and definitely not wide spread.
Also, any bald eagle that lives in Canada is simply just visiting, this way they get a real appreciation for true freedom of the US by viewing an oppressed communist country that is Canada. (because this is the internet, I want to mention that is 100% satire)
TheGirlWhoWroteASong Dude... Seriously just said its satire.
many of them? I thought it was just Franklin.
I find myself here yet again on another long and painful history assignment...
Love how you didn't say that 1812 was the only war America ever got defeated. AND IT WAS CANADIANS damn we'er awesome
I love your videos. History and humor.
people saying the Brits that burned the white house weren't Canadian...
Canadians were Brits back then.
Jake R Exactly our point though. You proved it. The British did it, not the Canadians. You literally destroyed your point.
@@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121 What? Canada was Britain until we separated and made it our own country. Meaning 1812 Canadians are the same thing as British people. Great Britain won the war of 1812, not Canada. Which is how it goes when getting taught history in Canada. Stupid yank.
Jake R people say that the Germans destroyed London during WWII
EWE! Canadians were British
And before that Canadian only refered to citizens of New France before the brits stole that name.
Love how there is a cannon in the back. Is that a reference to the 1812 overture?
Canada: Just happy to be mentioned.
the fault in our stars reference im screeching
No one caught the Bioshock Infinite reference at 7:30? Excellent work there thoughtbubble. And I'm pretty sure this video came out around the same time the game released.
"In 1814 we took a little trip, along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip. We took a little bacon and we took a little beans, and we fought the bloody British in the town of New Orleans."
Yep, then the British sailed down the coast and captured American territory.
Amarianee -There once was a man named Madison, he's the president you know, he thought he'd tell the British, right where they could go, he said "we'll invade Canada", he thought he was so tough, instead we went to washingtoooooonnnn.... and burned down all his stuff! And the Whitehouse burned burned burned, and we're the ones that did it, it burned burned burned, and the president ran and cried
Adversary DOT-Communist It doesn't matter if was strategic or not. It was the capitol of the United States. It was sacked and razed. That is an overwhelming victory for the British.
As to New Orleans. Yes that battle was a victory for the US, however the British just sailed down the coast and captured another area. Then they got word that the War was over and they went home.
The Invasion of Upper Canada was the failed start of an attempt to capture BNA. This was said that it would only be a matter of marching and then they where to march on Halifax in 1813. However the stiff resolve of defence of the Local Red Coats, Canadians, Natives, and American Immigrants proved the US wrong.
The United States had hoped for a quick victory in the war, and it turned out to be a very very costly war that brought the US Economy to its knees.
All I'll say to the Murican Revisionists who claim the burning of Washtub DC 'did not matter' is this...
Bladensburg, the battle where Jimmy 'the Warmonger' Madison and his sordid crew ran from a numerically inferior force with their tails between their legs like whipped dogs...
War is expensive, a nation with no domestic taxes whose income depends entirely on trade tariffs in it's blockaded ports, that has NO way to pay it's war debt, gets it's capital burnt to the ground by enemy forces, and responds by sending diplomats to Europe, uninvited, to negotiate a peace, in a treaty that specifically forbade said nation from claiming Canadian soil...
That's not a win, that's "our bankers have cut off our overdraft, time to surrender gracefully and hope we don't get too screwed..."
+Thanato
"It doesn't matter if was strategic or not. It was the capitol of the United States. It was sacked and razed. That is an overwhelming victory for the British. "
Capit*A*l of the US. Capitol is one of the seven hills of rome and a type of government building (in the case of the United States federal government the one the Congress with its two houses/chambers resides in) named after the imperial roman palace built on it. Capital is the word for a "head city" (the literal meaning of capital) including all other kinds of buildings besides capitols.
And burning a parliamentary building or the "Executive mansion" isn't winning a war just like burning down Moscow didn't let Napoleon "win" _his_ russian campaign. As long as you don't get a hold of the government and can turn that into a negotiation position it is unimportant who holds the house it usually sits in. As long as the administration can and does work, you haven't won anything but a thinly veiled symbolic strike.
Traditionally, achievement of war aims names the victor in war. The US wished to annex the Canadas (North and South) which it failed to do. Great Britain wished to repel an American invasion into it's crown territories, which it was able to achieve, but it did not wish to take control of America again as it would have been economically unviable due to the debts it amassed during the Napoleonic Wars.
So to this end, Britain did win the War of 1812, however neither side (aside from the Indians of course) actually suffered any serious repercussions and the war itself did not have have a significant direct impact, although it did indirectly bring many benefits to the US.
It's like someone trying to take your pencil and you stopping them. Sure you stopped them, but the point of it has been lost somewhere.
Thank you Canada for sticking with us brits 👍🇨🇦🇬🇧
Daniel Ethell wait the brits WERE the Canadians...
Daniel Ethell Canadian people in those days were basically British and French. So Yh we were loyal to crown
Daniel Ethell Canada did it for their own pride. they don’t give a about Brits. If anything Canada would choose USA any day !
I watched this series expecting to rediscover reasons to love America.
Damn was that a mistake.
If you can't love it for what it truly is then is it truly love?
It's a country, not a woman. I mean, come on, man. Just listen to some of the stuff our forefathers signed on to. How do you take pride in this crap? Because it just happened to benefit you?
Kaiser Louis-Philip V Sure its nation but isn't a critical historical examination more honest then mythologizing it? Pride is more about ego then sincere affection. My people were largely stone age tech when the Europeans showed up, not a whole lot to boast about compared to putting a man on the moon but we are good people. Fought bravely for the causes we believed in. We had our heroes & villains. Triumphs & Failures. (America coming in to being was not of any particular benefit to my people really.)
What do you want to compare your Nation to? Rome? British Empire at its peak? So its not as good as you hoped, is it as bad as it could have been ether?
Our feelings about the past shouldn't be too nostalgic, after all the reason we study the past to better understand where we are going.
Well maybe neither the US or Britain won the war...but the goal of Canadians was to not be invaded, so they certainly won.
People in the comments be arguing, meanwhile, I can't help but smile at the Bioshock Infinite reference at 7:26
*****
One of my favorite games, how could I not
7:30 I see you Bioshock Infinite reference
I was wondering if anyone picked up on that.
In Chatham, Ontario there is a park in our Downtown area called "Tecumseh Park" which has a Canon near the Thames River which is actually the historic site of the war of 1812 during the Battle of the Thames. The canon is pretty much a landmark here in Chatham-Kent and they have signs along the path towards it that shows some history from the war.
This war you’re talking about, when was it?
Okay, kids. Britain won, we get it. It was important to the US as England stopped seizing US ships, we stood up to a great power and survived which made other countries respect us a lot more. It also helped us in production advances.
you tried to invade Canada but then ended up with a burned down white house and a shitty peace treaty. and by a smaller british force might i add. and no, the usa lost a lot of respect after the war, due to the fact that the british army only had about 4000 regular troops there. most of the fighting was done by canadian farmers. you should of had it in the bag, but instead ended up with nothing.
american war goals: annex canada and push the british out of america.
british war goals: defend canada form US attack then counter attack until peace treaty is signed
Anime Uploader uhhh it was us awesome Canadians who burned your White House lol also when you USA residents tried to steal Germany hill in WW1 you failed Canada stepped in we won now in Germany the German bunker hill is part of a museum
Anime Uploader No, nobody won. It was a stalemate. Britain wasn’t able to stunt our growth.
marcus Hayneiz So? The Brits should’ve won at New Orleans.
Correction Tape No. Impressment was wrong though.
That was possibly the greatest opening to a youtube video ive ever seen
im watching all 47 videos. this means i will have to stay up until 4 am. this also means that i will get no fucking sleep
but you'll be getting smarter
better than reading from the books in class
Doubtful. You can't learn anything in a 30 second sound bite.
How did Canada ever get it's independence anyways? Did Britain just stop caring and go "yeah, whatever"?
You know, you're not that far off...
Yeah, pretty much XD
The Colonies under British rule were run as business ventures with little interference from parliament unless asked for by those businesses. The Hudson Bay Company ran Most of what is modern day Canada. It was Businesses in Quebec & Ontario (Upper Canada) that lobbied for Canadian independence. It was all about money. Fact is independence made little difference for the vast majority of people regardless American Canadian or any where else in the Empire. A lot of very rich people gained & lost in the changes though.
We had not just one but two failed wannabe American Revolutions and then we just asked nicely. By that time Canada was seen by the British as not worth the effort to keep under control and let us have a semi-independent Dominion (because Americans were squeamish about having a Kingdom border them). So basically the Canadians were pretty much one of the only nations to gain independence by asking nicely. That sounds quintessentially Canadian to me. And I'm Canadian!
Deathshead1923 They were NOT "Wanna be American" Revolutions both happened because of outrage at local corruption not British Tyranny which is how the Americans fancy theirs to be. In short there wasn't enough British oversight. Which historicaly has actually more often the cause of problems in British colonies.
8:51 Watch his hand XD
I love listening to someone who doesn't like America rant on about how bad we were/are
I like how he talks about how things didn't go well for the U.S in canada while showing a sketch of a u.s victory in canada on the screen
John Green: "And no matter how you feel about America's international interventions, you need to remember it didn't begin in Afghanistan or even Europe. It started with freakin' Canada".
Canadians: "Sorry."
Nice Bioshock: Infinite reference lol. 7:27
You win this time canada
***** Hahaha, oh Canada
we win all the time ;)
***** except when it came to the American Revolution.
***** wait northern Montana is a country? Lol.
What did Canada win? We fought Britain, not Canada. It wasn't even a country, it was the name of the colony under the British Empire. They also had two failed wanna-be Wars of Independence, called the Upper and Lower Canadian Rebellions, where they actually asked for American assistance. Lel.
Who else watched this right before a test
Basically everyone 😂
Test tomorrow lmao
I know right!!!
Same m8ty
Bruh, you got me
LOL "we would always be Canada's pants"
The fact that RUclips has recommended this to me says a lot...
We're not Canada's pants! Canada is America's hat!
I'm Canadian and found this more funny than anybody probably should've
Herv3 Dude get her number man~
+Herv3 Canada's diaper.
That's California
Except canada is older than the US by a land slide.
Listening to this while I cram for my APUSH test on Khan Academy. Man, the Internet is great, huh?
There are so many salty Americans and British and even CANADIANS its like I am floating on the dead sea
American revolution part 2: electric boogaloo
Thank you for putting the "This Machine Kills Fascists" sticker on your laptop and always making it visible in these videos.
You do sometimes bend over backwards a little bit to have a balanced framing in some of these but this makes it clear you're doing that for appeal to a wider audience and beneath the centrist persona, you know what's up.