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@@Tranman64 for a topic that has been questioned, studied and scrutinized so deeply for over a century,, with hundreds of internet articles and experts weighing in on the incredible complexity of building such a wonder with no electricity or modern tools , I wouldn't say " nothing interesting about it." I found AN article, but not THE article where it mentions Israel as I believe it was a you tube documentary. Nonetheless there it is, with thousands of visitors every year.
@@USMC98 I didn't say there was nothing interesting about the staircase. I just meant that it was a bit disappointing that it just turned out to be birch
😮I'm a retired carpenter of 50 years, for 35 years I built staircases, the wood used in the Loretto staircase is amazing in itself, although genetically not matched that is not an indicator. What I noticed upon inspection of the staircase is the size of the wood used and the fact that it has been bent into that spiral, that is a complex and unforgiving task, believe my,,,I used to us a system called cryoplasti,you use liquid oxygen or nitrogen, after freezing you use a heat gun to make the board bend into the shape of the form you built for the radius/compound radius,,,I have bent 2x4 up to 2x8 but only no more than a 90° compound bend, but no where near as tight as the Loretto staircase, and the wood i used was pine,,, to make those bends you have to be very precise and the form you build is going to take up room,,,the wood in the Loretto chapel staircase are heavy cuts, all bold cuts and made to be solid, there are wood working techniques at play here that are unknown, the seams and joinery are near invisible, the finishes are perfectly identical as is the seminary of every matching piece of construction, the individual pieces are within 1thousanths .001 of an inch, that is crazy,,, I have built winding staircase of oak, hickory, pecan,,,even maple,,,the winding compound parts are very expensive so there is almost no room for mistakes,,,where the seams and joints fit it is important to the flow of the grain and end grain matching is imperative for that "clean" and flowing look,,, The Loretto staircase is put together without nails, screws or even glue(although i don't know what kind of glue you could use, hot animal glue would have been appropriate for the time period),,,I have an idea of how to build a 33 step free standing self supporting staircase, but those bends, curves and compounds are far beyond what I know, if it weren't standing there I'd have to say it is impossible, yet there it stands,,,I'd love to go back in time and space to be there and witness this miraculous build,,,❤❤❤❤❤🖖🤏 👍
I just visited the chapel today. Even though the place has been turned into a museum and deconsecrated by the Catholic church (I'm pretty sure God sees what is in the hearts of believers & not what pervs in funny hats tell others what to believe), I believe God exists within this facility. It is small and humble, with beautiful stained glass and step-by-step of the crucifixion to the sepulchre. The mystery of the staircase is the cream topping. Such an amazing hand crafted piece of work!
I was 45yrs old today when I heard of this story. I had noooo clue that such a beautiful piece of carpentry even existed! I’m blown away at the story behind how this was even built. Why I got even emotional while hearing the story? Idk…..it just does.
Right!! The "mystery" of the scourcing of the wood, the tonal qualities/values of spruce as an instrumental wood piqued my interest when that guy on the TV documentary said the staircase had a "vibration" to it. I felt a warm, loving, sensation when I entered.
I visited this church maybe 10 years ago and although I was extremely impressed with your narration and building facts I believe someone mentioned the stairs were without banisters for many years. I'm glad you cleared this up. Thanks for sharing. Loved, SUBSCRIBED, & DING!!!
That center pole didn't used to be there. Looks tacky. I get it if it's needed for extra support but lighting it like that draws the eye towards it and away from the stairs
No there's no walking on it. Would be cool but this is a very popular spot and I don't know if the miraculous powers could have supported millions of people over the years!
That church is amazing for sure. I (Steve) have been there a couple of times. And took my wife there. The staircase is definitely something to see. Thanks for showing this.
I used to drive a Chevy, but now I drive a Ford. I used to have a girlfriend, but now I'm just plain bored because I lost my little lady, down around Santa Fe, oh I just got to find a woman to take this lonesome feeling away.
The actual builder of the staircase, Francois-Jean Rochas, as this video states, was murdered & then afterwards the story of "The Miracle Staircase" was propagated. Its amazing craftmanship for sure, but a regular man built them & deserves the credit for doing so. Btw, there was a railroad that ran right through Santa Fe, & in the late19th-early 20th century lumber (particularly spruce) was probably top export.
I know people suspect that it might have been St Joseph himself who built the staircase. But he rode in on a donkey supposedly. There's another carpenter who was known for riding in on a donkey, if I recall. He was not particularly famous or anything, I think his name was like Yeshua or something. Anybody ever hear of that guy? Maybe He was the one who built the staircase. 33 steps. : ))
Well, not so much. Let's look at an engineering point of view: a) the ladder is not balanced, in fact; b) If the ladder was built and it remains to stand, then it is possible to build it and rebuild it. c) The spiral stairs are generally self-supported, that is, they are supported by themselves. In this case, they need a central axis vertically. d) St. Joseph's staircase is not self-employed, a spiral, or a spring segment that needs support and support at both ends, otherwise, it would close with one's own weight or with a person's loading over it. This ladder is sustained at the top and base, like a spring. e) can be built on site, with provisional support; from top to bottom, or even on the floor. In any case, the supports can only be removed after the ends are fixed. Of course with a load of a person, the stairs, or the spring, it closes slightly, not static. If the wood is not from planet Earth, it is a mystery. But the laws of physics are the same, anywhere in the universe.
My kid and I paid an account shattering $8.00. I believe that is beyond reasonable considering what it takes to keep such a place maintained and presentable. Only God knows what the city of Santa Fe charges as far as taxes, permits, or whatever other "legal" fees involved.
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it is no wonder but yeah its about build not about looks .. practice in knowing the material .. its something that most ppl do thats true.. most ppl want fast not to fall get paid and be gone.. the fact remains its not as strong as our builds and this is what magic is knowing how to do with what u have .. its like the only question is: is the wood strong enough for the build thats all.. if they build one pyramid like that why not some stairs
Silly, people willingness to believe anything is the real miracle.Nothing but claims. About a “mystery wood” as for the guy that built it, nothing more than a talented craftsman. Their are articles that explains how it is posible to stand because of the shape and the floor beams😂😂😂
Sometimes I get angered when a man who clearly had an exceptional talent doesn't get his credit . They claim miracle I claim a master of his craft who didn't want recognition for his charity. Either way it's a beautiful piece of woodworking art.
@@Negotiatorsthe compagnon museum in Tours. We have been operating and teaching this practice since the year 800. Frenchy was a compagnon, we recognize our methods and teaching if it was performed in 1600 or reconstruction era USA
@Negotiators Plenty of crazy things have been built by humans that scientists can't explain and don't know who did it doesn't mean some diety made it just people who knew what they were doing they said no nails were used what if home boy just placed a tree that thick in a spot and carved away until it was a staircase like how people today carve stairs into mountains leading into thier homes. As for the wood don't know if he only came in on a donkey or maybe he had a wagon and other supplies he brought as well and didn't disclose to the church and left said items when he went to go speak the first time and just told them he had just come in from out of town on a donkey and that's all they took note of was his first impression.
You left out so much research and info, including the physicist opinions as well as the fact that that wood used, the type of pine doesn't exist there- closest place is Alaska and even so, the exact spieces it was found has not been identified anywhere on earth yet, to name some of the stuff left out of this presentation.
Beautiful stuff! I believe i heard the board under it all is a solid piece. I would love to see it in person! I am only uncertain of one thing. Why do the stories say he showed up with a hammer, yet no nail was used? Maybe the nails are hidden. He did donit in privacy, afterall. Regardless, beautiful story and work!!!
It just matters GOD sent him not who he was just like the 2 wittnesses GOD sends them lets not worry their names you will have forever in heaven to get to know them
Amen! However, I want to mention that there should not be any admission fees nor should be an increase for these admission fees. "Do not take any money for God's work". As well, The scriptures asked for simple life away from lavish spending. Not sure why churches are built fancy with marble and other expensive building materials. Thank you and may God bless you!
Thank you for showing the commercialism of the site as well as its Divine Blessings. I would rather keep the 19th Century image of the Chapel in my head, and I would want to avoid the disappointment of seeing it as a marketplace instead of a nonprofit place of worship.
If someone believes then it is true to them, and no one can take that away. And the same would apply to those that don't believe, agreeing to disagree. I heard this story from my great grandma that was born in Sante Fe around 1903 whose grandfather was full Apache raised by some rich Spanish family again in Santa Fe and he was a carpenter. He would build coffins for those coming across the trail that had passed among other things. Rumor, was he had helped build some staircase in New Mexico. not a big deal to me but kind of interesting, I now got the details of the staircase. The crazier story to me was this great great great grand dude full Apache spoke French cuz the Spanish family that raised him sent him to Mexico for schooling. A wagon train comes in and this 13-year-old French girl was crying because of an Indian raid that killed her parents, this girl followed my ggg grand dude around cuz he was the only one that spoke French in Sante Fe at that time and the town priest made them get married because of this. Crazy story. I mis my great grandma.
No the shame would be if you have the money to travel 100s or 1000s of miles to get there and not give some money to something so original from one of GODS angels or man that would be a shame to not pay Im sure what ever they do with the money is good and between them and GOD
Lol, lots of historic (especially Catholic) churches in Germany, Spain and some other countries charge to get in. Technically this isn’t an active church anymore anyway
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Bring me that stupid physicist, 😅😂
its important to note that the wood used hasnt been matched to any other spruce species on the planet not just in the southwest
Interesting, first time I have heard that. Thanks for watching!
Yes, true. It is spruce wood and it is native to Israel.
It was actually identified as birch wood. Not very interesting
@@Tranman64 for a topic that has been questioned, studied and scrutinized so deeply for over a century,, with hundreds of internet articles and experts weighing in on the incredible complexity of building such a wonder with no electricity or modern tools , I wouldn't say " nothing interesting about it."
I found AN article, but not THE article where it mentions Israel as I believe it was a you tube documentary. Nonetheless there it is, with thousands of visitors every year.
@@USMC98 I didn't say there was nothing interesting about the staircase. I just meant that it was a bit disappointing that it just turned out to be birch
😮I'm a retired carpenter of 50 years, for 35 years I built staircases, the wood used in the Loretto staircase is amazing in itself, although genetically not matched that is not an indicator. What I noticed upon inspection of the staircase is the size of the wood used and the fact that it has been bent into that spiral, that is a complex and unforgiving task, believe my,,,I used to us a system called cryoplasti,you use liquid oxygen or nitrogen, after freezing you use a heat gun to make the board bend into the shape of the form you built for the radius/compound radius,,,I have bent 2x4 up to 2x8 but only no more than a 90° compound bend, but no where near as tight as the Loretto staircase, and the wood i used was pine,,, to make those bends you have to be very precise and the form you build is going to take up room,,,the wood in the Loretto chapel staircase are heavy cuts, all bold cuts and made to be solid, there are wood working techniques at play here that are unknown, the seams and joinery are near invisible, the finishes are perfectly identical as is the seminary of every matching piece of construction, the individual pieces are within 1thousanths .001 of an inch, that is crazy,,,
I have built winding staircase of oak, hickory, pecan,,,even maple,,,the winding compound parts are very expensive so there is almost no room for mistakes,,,where the seams and joints fit it is important to the flow of the grain and end grain matching is imperative for that "clean" and flowing look,,,
The Loretto staircase is put together without nails, screws or even glue(although i don't know what kind of glue you could use, hot animal glue would have been appropriate for the time period),,,I have an idea of how to build a 33 step free standing self supporting staircase, but those bends, curves and compounds are far beyond what I know, if it weren't standing there I'd have to say it is impossible, yet there it stands,,,I'd love to go back in time and space to be there and witness this miraculous build,,,❤❤❤❤❤🖖🤏 👍
I just visited the chapel today. Even though the place has been turned into a museum and deconsecrated by the Catholic church (I'm pretty sure God sees what is in the hearts of believers & not what pervs in funny hats tell others what to believe), I believe God exists within this facility. It is small and humble, with beautiful stained glass and step-by-step of the crucifixion to the sepulchre. The mystery of the staircase is the cream topping. Such an amazing hand crafted piece of work!
It is indeed amazing, well said!
I was 45yrs old today when I heard of this story. I had noooo clue that such a beautiful piece of carpentry even existed! I’m blown away at the story behind how this was even built. Why I got even emotional while hearing the story? Idk…..it just does.
Right!! The "mystery" of the scourcing of the wood, the tonal qualities/values of spruce as an instrumental wood piqued my interest when that guy on the TV documentary said the staircase had a "vibration" to it. I felt a warm, loving, sensation when I entered.
A beautiful chapel. Thanks for the video!
Glad you enjoyed, thank you for watching!
I visited this church maybe 10 years ago and although I was extremely impressed with your narration and building facts I believe someone mentioned the stairs were without banisters for many years. I'm glad you cleared this up. Thanks for sharing. Loved, SUBSCRIBED, & DING!!!
Thanks Kevin!
Nothing g miraculous about this except the amount of money the church is making off of this tourist at
@@jackpease935 no one forces anyone to pay 310$ for Jordan's Bball shoes either ...
This is beautiful and if you get to see the movie its beautiful too ❤
That center pole didn't used to be there. Looks tacky. I get it if it's needed for extra support but lighting it like that draws the eye towards it and away from the stairs
I think the lighting was just there for Christmas time, didn't like it much either.
Is notbthere it was just decor i just went there today
I’m assuming they don’t allow anyone to walk up the staircase. Still have to wonder how he brought in all that spruce.
No there's no walking on it. Would be cool but this is a very popular spot and I don't know if the miraculous powers could have supported millions of people over the years!
That's bullshit
That church is amazing for sure. I (Steve) have been there a couple of times. And took my wife there. The staircase is definitely something to see. Thanks for showing this.
Yep, sure is impressive! Thanks for watching!
Wow may God give me money I also go with my family
I used to drive a Chevy, but now I drive a Ford. I used to have a girlfriend, but now I'm just plain bored because I lost my little lady, down around Santa Fe, oh I just got to find a woman to take this lonesome feeling away.
The actual builder of the staircase, Francois-Jean Rochas, as this video states, was murdered & then afterwards the story of "The Miracle Staircase" was propagated. Its amazing craftmanship for sure, but a regular man built them & deserves the credit for doing so. Btw, there was a railroad that ran right through Santa Fe, & in the late19th-early 20th century lumber (particularly spruce) was probably top export.
Amazing video! Godbless you, man!
Thanks, God bless!
I know people suspect that it might have been St Joseph himself who built the staircase. But he rode in on a donkey supposedly. There's another carpenter who was known for riding in on a donkey, if I recall. He was not particularly famous or anything, I think his name was like Yeshua or something. Anybody ever hear of that guy? Maybe He was the one who built the staircase. 33 steps. : ))
Them nuns were of Great faith
Mearaviljoso! St. Joseph, I love You! Please help me, I need You badly!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Was the builder Mexican 🤔
Rumor has it St. Joseph built it 🙂
French American his name is Francois “French” Rochas🙏❤️‼️
Well, not so much. Let's look at an engineering point of view: a) the ladder is not balanced, in fact; b) If the ladder was built and it remains to stand, then it is possible to build it and rebuild it. c) The spiral stairs are generally self-supported, that is, they are supported by themselves. In this case, they need a central axis vertically. d) St. Joseph's staircase is not self-employed, a spiral, or a spring segment that needs support and support at both ends, otherwise, it would close with one's own weight or with a person's loading over it. This ladder is sustained at the top and base, like a spring. e) can be built on site, with provisional support; from top to bottom, or even on the floor. In any case, the supports can only be removed after the ends are fixed. Of course with a load of a person, the stairs, or the spring, it closes slightly, not static. If the wood is not from planet Earth, it is a mystery. But the laws of physics are the same, anywhere in the universe.
Sr. San Jose, ig-ampo mo kami. VIVA!!!
hey hi can i upload this video on my youtube channel
How i drive to see
Not sure St.Joseph NOR GOD would be happy about all the money people are being charged in order to see his BEAUTIFUL MIRACLE
How about the upkeep
My kid and I paid an account shattering $8.00. I believe that is beyond reasonable considering what it takes to keep such a place maintained and presentable. Only God knows what the city of Santa Fe charges as far as taxes, permits, or whatever other "legal" fees involved.
❤️ The Staircase
STUBE SV. JOSIPA
Naravno da je te stepenice izgradio sâm sv. Josip - Stolar svih stolara ikad rođenih na zemlji.
Sveti Josipe, Poočime našeg Gospodina Isusa Krista, i zaručniče Bl. Djevice Marije, moli za nas!
The year Gorilla Glue was invented. Beautiful
it is no wonder but yeah its about build not about looks .. practice in knowing the material .. its something that most ppl do thats true.. most ppl want fast not to fall get paid and be gone.. the fact remains its not as strong as our builds and this is what magic is knowing how to do with what u have .. its like the only question is: is the wood strong enough for the build thats all.. if they build one pyramid like that why not some stairs
Can you go up the stairs?
Nope, unless you get married there apparently.
Jesus made it
Silly, people willingness to believe anything is the real miracle.Nothing but claims. About a “mystery wood” as for the guy that built it, nothing more than a talented craftsman. Their are articles that explains how it is posible to stand because of the shape and the floor beams😂😂😂
If you want to sound smart, at least try to research or find facts🤦♀️
I want to see the joinery
Sometimes I get angered when a man who clearly had an exceptional talent doesn't get his credit . They claim miracle I claim a master of his craft who didn't want recognition for his charity. Either way it's a beautiful piece of woodworking art.
Isn't it a miracle that such a man even exists? Life itself is a miracle.
And we’re his other staircases. It seems to be a one of kind. Even famous artist left their rough drafts
@@Negotiatorsthe compagnon museum in Tours. We have been operating and teaching this practice since the year 800. Frenchy was a compagnon, we recognize our methods and teaching if it was performed in 1600 or reconstruction era USA
@Negotiators Plenty of crazy things have been built by humans that scientists can't explain and don't know who did it doesn't mean some diety made it just people who knew what they were doing they said no nails were used what if home boy just placed a tree that thick in a spot and carved away until it was a staircase like how people today carve stairs into mountains leading into thier homes. As for the wood don't know if he only came in on a donkey or maybe he had a wagon and other supplies he brought as well and didn't disclose to the church and left said items when he went to go speak the first time and just told them he had just come in from out of town on a donkey and that's all they took note of was his first impression.
You left out so much research and info, including the physicist opinions as well as the fact that that wood used, the type of pine doesn't exist there- closest place is Alaska and even so, the exact spieces it was found has not been identified anywhere on earth yet, to name some of the stuff left out of this presentation.
Beautiful stuff! I believe i heard the board under it all is a solid piece. I would love to see it in person!
I am only uncertain of one thing. Why do the stories say he showed up with a hammer, yet no nail was used? Maybe the nails are hidden. He did donit in privacy, afterall.
Regardless, beautiful story and work!!!
Novina is really a strong prayer. A miracle will happen!
It just matters GOD sent him not who he was just like the 2 wittnesses GOD sends them lets not worry their names you will have forever in heaven to get to know them
Long time ago i saw this feature by national geographic i'm
Amen! However, I want to mention that there should not be any admission fees nor should be an increase for these admission fees. "Do not take any money for God's work". As well, The scriptures asked for simple life away from lavish spending. Not sure why churches are built fancy with marble and other expensive building materials. Thank you and may God bless you!
Thank you for showing the commercialism of the site as well as its Divine Blessings. I would rather keep the 19th Century image of the Chapel in my head, and I would want to avoid the disappointment of seeing it as a marketplace instead of a nonprofit place of worship.
If someone believes then it is true to them, and no one can take that away. And the same would apply to those that don't believe, agreeing to disagree. I heard this story from my great grandma that was born in Sante Fe around 1903 whose grandfather was full Apache raised by some rich Spanish family again in Santa Fe and he was a carpenter. He would build coffins for those coming across the trail that had passed among other things. Rumor, was he had helped build some staircase in New Mexico. not a big deal to me but kind of interesting, I now got the details of the staircase. The crazier story to me was this great great great grand dude full Apache spoke French cuz the Spanish family that raised him sent him to Mexico for schooling. A wagon train comes in and this 13-year-old French girl was crying because of an Indian raid that killed her parents, this girl followed my ggg grand dude around cuz he was the only one that spoke French in Sante Fe at that time and the town priest made them get married because of this. Crazy story. I mis my great grandma.
If you dont want to believe in GOD then dont go and see this stairway and its story - God Is VERY real
The stairs are comparative to the shroud of Turin. No way to explain how it was made because it's truly beyond our understanding.
What a shame the chapel exploits the miracle by charging to see the staircase .
No the shame would be if you have the money to travel 100s or 1000s of miles to get there and not give some money to something so original from one of GODS angels or man that would be a shame to not pay
Im sure what ever they do with the money is good and between them and GOD
Uh•see•see
This is obviously something that defys laws of physics and I literally see a authentic miracle . Its mind-blowing
You have to pay to go in there?
Thats so weird. Might as well turn a profit. That's what God would want
Lol, lots of historic (especially Catholic) churches in Germany, Spain and some other countries charge to get in. Technically this isn’t an active church anymore anyway