Meanwhile I came down here to say that you missed the math on cranial at 14:50 . If you cast the plating and equip on an ornithopter you hit for 9 putting them to 7. You still have four blockers and 5 life. They had 5 creatures that could attack with the weakest being 1 power. They would have to draw a kill spell for your thopter or a way to buff their lieutenant by 3 or they lose on the swingback. Their board was already so tall, there was no card in your deck that could effectively block or remove more than one champion. Your only chance at winning was to try and be faster and you had a card that put them on a 2 swing clock, but you chose to give them an extra turn. There was also a point in the death shadow match at the start where you chose to discard plating over thought monitor. I *know* card draw is drilled into your head as always better, but card draw value is dependent on what you want/need to draw and the odds of drawing it. You're playing a very aggressive deck and you just discarded your most agro card... What could you have drawn that would have been worth more than the eleven power on board the plating represented? I do know this was a moot point because they had the second discard effect and you lost the monitor too, but it still hurt my soul a bit to see you undervalue the plating that much.
Seth i wanna see 2 things very very soon pretty please brother!!! Both involve upheaval upheaval with some kind of faceless butcher interaction payoff problem is im unsure what to butcher prior to upheaval....i haven't dug deep enough to figure it out yet....but once you cast upheaval whatever is under the faceless butcher ends up in play on an empty board so I'm thinking 2 diff ways possibly the same list tho....either scarab god or glory bringer scarab god can just pump out the things youve discarded and glory bringer has haste And then of course weve gotta see a historic version of upheaval infestation from odessey bloc constructed!!!!
I really appreciate the little popups of a card when Seth mentions it as a theoretical. It looked a little BM when he said "If they play ghostly prison we scoop it up" and then the exact printing that later gets played popped up, but that was just funny.
Honestly, this is probably the deck I'm most excited is coming back from the dead. It always bothered me that the old Arcbound Ravager deck was called Affinity despite playing zero cards with Affinity. This on the other hand, THIS is Affinity. :)
15:00 Plating + Equipd + attack with orni = 9 Damage Opp turn: Block with 4 creatures Own turn: play thought monitor + orni + Attack with equipded orni = 7 damage = win
Both scoops were too early. Stony silence is not game over for affinity, only the lands and playing have activated abilities. Still worth seeing if they had an answer to frogmits and monitors
@@marshall4439 can't make blue mana, no springleaf drums either, so no thought monitors no thoughtcast, just gotta hope to draw enough froggy boys, sojourners and enforcers.
16:30 if you're casting two frogmites in the same turn, and the second one won't be free, make blinkmoth a creature using its own mana. Could frogmite for 1, then for 0, then thoughtcast off of drum instead of just double frog
My brother and I were having a debate during MH2 spoilers whether Modern Affinity was dead without Mox Opal. Nice to see it bouncing back with new tech.
The scary thing is this deck isnt running urza's saga. Urza saga is legitimately one of the scariest cards in modern now. Double karnstruct on a land is scary powerful with potential to pick up a lot of hate pieces that mess with a lot of archtypes or protects your aggro pieces.
Well there is not much « new tech ». This Classic Affinity build uses some of the new cards, but the plays are obvious. I just do not know if it is fast enough against the other aggro decks. This is not 2004 folks. Magic has evolved 10-folds since then.
I've been playing the blasts version of affinity for a couple years and I would say running 4x Galvanic blast instead of welding jar, or running Galvanic blasts in the board would do this deck a lot of good. That humans match could've used some burn.
OMG, I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish watching this video... round 1, and you are already undervaluing the pressure Cranial Plating puts on opponents. As an OG Standard Affinity player, it's wrecking my soul to see you prioritize Thoughtcast over getting the plating equipped and finishing your opponent.
Yeah, affinity is an aggro deck that kills the oppomemt on turn3 with some luck. If you have an option that deals damage to face, its probably the right one.
you can use summoning sick creatures with springleaf drum! i think i noticed a couple of times where you could have played something with a drum but didn't, particularly in match 5. at 32:34 you could have played the cranial plating out and a couple of turns before that you could have played another thoughtcast.
also after animating the nexus he could have left the nexus there and use the enforcer + nexus creature to instant speed the plating onto the monitor that was not blocked using both drums.
Affinity being good again and being *actual* affinity makes me happy. To be clear, I've never played with it, but I love that it's back and seems like a sign of format health. Plus, I play white and run stony silence.
There were a couple of games where I would prioritize cast + equip plating then playing the thought-spells next turn instead, also you can beat ghostly with plating or nettlecyst, but man Stony or Karn TGC is instant scoop most of the time.
He's played so many combo or control decks that "card draw is always better" is etched into his DNA at this point. In this agro deck, what is he trying to draw INTO? either removal for a blocker or a threat. But he already has evasive creatures, so the plating is the *best* threat he could draw if he just did the math to check how much power it was adding each time.
@@TheChibidono he vastly underestimated cranial plating in nearly every matchup. If he'd slowed down enough to do the math it was sitting at +6 to +10 power and constantly representing a 2 swing clock. With how many cheap creatures he could dump out that would have let him be a turn or two faster and go "under" the other agro decks like humans.
Agree. Seth had the win on the board. He tends to play « automatically » sometimes without really thinking about *all* his options. Enchantress can no nothing against a cranial-plated flyer.
Ahaha! Then read my top comment on side-boarding. With Urza’s Saga (the card) in Modern, you should expect a *lot* of hate versus artifact builds. I am running four Root Maze (main deck). Cheers & happy gaming.
Cute! Keep in mind that white runs Stony Silence and green runs Root Maze main deck. If you want to bring Classic Affinity to a Modern tournament, I recommend having access to Islands or rare untapped lands that produce blue for Annul (four sideboard). Otherwise, expect major disappointments. (Times have changed a lot since 2004 when the Affinity Mechanic was made: the creature decks are much better and they can kill pretty much as fast or faster than Affinity.) Cheers & happy gaming! :-)
Yeah, Stony is Brutal. You could get there with attacking, but that plan needs your opponent to not have ghostly prison or any other kind of interaction.
that player posted their deck somewhere here. they were on 4 sterling grove, 3 solitary confinement and one stony silence mainboard. in addition to 12 enchantress effects. there was nearly no way seth kills them through a ghostly prison before they assemble some combination of cards that completely shuts seth down. and while seth didn't know that exact list, he knew they were on enchantress. so he knew that they would start drawing lots of cards very soon and would likely pack various silver bullets in the main because sterling grove. like yeah it was an early scoop. but unless the opponent just completely stopped playing the game the chances of winning were still mostly nonexistent
Jim Davis did a version of this. I liked his inclusion of vault skirg over enforcer for more evasion and a little lifegain. He also used paradise mantle over bauble which I think is correct. You already have 4 thoughtcast and you have to sac bauble which reduces affinity which seems......bad? I also like one shadowspear with saga as a 1 of as a tutor target.
I was pretty amazed with this deck man, it just works so well! Here in Europe prices are much lower so I can pick this nice pile of cards for less than 30€ or so, so definetly trying this one out.
Having played affinity in pauper for a bit, I will say finding room for galvanic blast is definitely worthwhile. It gives you a lot of reach.. esp in this build where you have more card draw. You could pretty reliably threaten lethal when you're opponent is at 8 and 12 wouldn't be hard. At the least you could consider replacing vapor snag in the board and bring it in against stony silence or heavy removal decks (eg when the plating plan doesn't look so hot). Modern does have creatures with more than 4 toughness that need to be dealt with so I understand why you'd go for vapor snag but imagine the humans match up.. permanent removal is much better than giving them another etb. And galvanic blast practically beats death's shadow single handedly
35:30 « your opponent plays Stony Silence on Turn-2, you kind of lose the game. » If it *resolves* , then yes you do. Also if your opponent plays a Root Maze on Turn-1, you kind of lose the game. I recommend that you ditch the Wielding Jars: They do not help you win, and there are too many good permanents now (2021) that bypasses jars but are still very painful for Affinity to « fight through ». Cheers & Happy Gaming!
A non budget version could include Urza's Saga and Inkmoths over Blinkmoths. Concerning sideboard, how about Galvanic Blast over Vapor Snag? Also, I'm thinking about some cool "main finisher", like Broodstar (which is suboptimal, but I love it so much ahahah)
I dont think this deck cares for urza's saga. Its not an artifact, I don't want to spend 3 mana to make a body and searching for a 1 drop on turn 3 just feels suboptimal
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 why 3? You’re right, it’s not an artifact, but it allows you to put onto the battlefield two big/big constructs, each costing 2 mana. Also, on the third turn it allows you to search for a welding jar or a thopter, based on your needs, which is a juicy bonus!
I’m almost 100% sure you could’ve won that first game against humans. If you would’ve cast the plating instead of the thought monitor and equipped to an ornithopter you could attack for 9 in the air. Then the opponent would’ve either had to find an answer or kill you. But I guess you’d have to worry about path on the ornithopter.
With what? he can't use his mana, cranial stuck in hand forever, no access to colors, best he can hope for is drawing 0 mana creatures to eventually cast his 4 power non evasive stuff, by then he is beyond dead
There were a lot of missed opportunities to play spells, either with Springleaf Drum or just paying a generic mana to get an affinity snowball started. It speaks to the power of the deck, really, although Seth also benefits from his opponents not knowing what decks he's playing
There was a dimir and a grixis version of tgis deck back in the day and both would routinely win turn 2 with arcbound ravager and disciple of the vault it was wprse than eldrazi
I think it's time for an Update on this list! It's been 3 years and I need a list for the next 3 months. My LGS is having an RCQ each month and I want to take a Budget Affinity list to them!
Modern is looking pretty good now! Lots of diversity and most of the decks I see Seth play against aren't degenerate combos! I'm curious about inkmoth nexus and/or ravager. I'm assuming they don't fit in the budget, but I wonder if ravager is better in the Nettlecyst slot? It's cheaper to cast and serves a similar purpose. Inkmoth might be good as an alternative win-con, and a way around things like ghostly prison because one attack by a pumped inkmoth will often end the game.
idk about scooping that first game against Humans. he had to block 4 creatures, which would bring him down to 7 artifacts equipping Plating onto a flier is 9 damage, since they cannot block it currently the Thought Monitor in hand is the tenth damage, draw for turn and the two off the etb would require literally only a single castable/playable artifact, and let's just say, odds were good for that, and he would have had the 11 damage in the air...
34:15 "What have we learned this week about REAL Affinity?" Watching Seth play it will give Affinity players aneurysms. But, seriously, I appreciate the content! Thought Monitor and new (read: not yet banned) artifact lands were a great pickup from MH2 for an archetype that's been dead for so long.
21:30 Oh no! You didn't play Frogmite and then Thoughtcast. You'd even still have a mana to cast Thought Monitor in the event Thoughtcast drew you two 0 mana creatures, which would give you Myr Enforcer.
I’ve been trying to find a comprehensive thought monitor affinity list and glad to see this today. I think I’m gonna put some glimmervoids in and maybe get some ravagers. Not sure what other improvements (apart from the to-be-banned urza’s saga) I’d need
Was 21:38 a punt? You had 3 artifacts so you could have played frogmite for 1 and Thoughtcast but instead you did nothing and passed the turn. I guess you might have been trying to wait to be explosive and not let them kill or bounce frogmite with reflector mage before your big turn but it feels like it would have been correct mana efficiency wise
I think that this deck should have access to Ensoul Artifact (At least in the sideboard). Having the option to produce 5/5 indestructible creatures might be clutch in a few match-ups.
There are a lot of cards he could add to improve the consistency or power of the deck. Inkmoth nexus is another that would often turn cranial into a 1-hit ko even against heavy lifegain decks
Ghostly prison isn't bad enough to scoop!!! It's only 2 mana to attack through and with plating you have massive damage turns. Between spring leaf and your land base there's plenty of mana to pay the toll. Just my opinion
We should have cast the Frogmite ;)
Hillarious, scroll down to comments so I can yell at Seth for punting, see this pinned as top comment X-D
Meanwhile I came down here to say that you missed the math on cranial at 14:50 . If you cast the plating and equip on an ornithopter you hit for 9 putting them to 7. You still have four blockers and 5 life. They had 5 creatures that could attack with the weakest being 1 power. They would have to draw a kill spell for your thopter or a way to buff their lieutenant by 3 or they lose on the swingback. Their board was already so tall, there was no card in your deck that could effectively block or remove more than one champion. Your only chance at winning was to try and be faster and you had a card that put them on a 2 swing clock, but you chose to give them an extra turn.
There was also a point in the death shadow match at the start where you chose to discard plating over thought monitor. I *know* card draw is drilled into your head as always better, but card draw value is dependent on what you want/need to draw and the odds of drawing it. You're playing a very aggressive deck and you just discarded your most agro card... What could you have drawn that would have been worth more than the eleven power on board the plating represented? I do know this was a moot point because they had the second discard effect and you lost the monitor too, but it still hurt my soul a bit to see you undervalue the plating that much.
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Seth i wanna see 2 things very very soon pretty please brother!!! Both involve upheaval
upheaval with some kind of faceless butcher interaction payoff problem is im unsure what to butcher prior to upheaval....i haven't dug deep enough to figure it out yet....but once you cast upheaval whatever is under the faceless butcher ends up in play on an empty board so I'm thinking 2 diff ways possibly the same list tho....either scarab god or glory bringer scarab god can just pump out the things youve discarded and glory bringer has haste
And then of course weve gotta see a historic version of upheaval infestation from odessey bloc constructed!!!!
This is a budget deck?is there any upgrades you would suggest?
obviously, opponent was playing a 20 Champion of the parish, 20 lieutenant, 20 lands deck
Lol, it felt like it.
and 1 aethervial
@@alexmaragh7766 2 aethervial
Champion of the Parish Hat Trick.
I was your enchantress opponent! Freaked out when it was you for a second haha
Lucky you!
Nice! Sweet deck!
you absolutely destroyed him ahah
Lucky
do you have a deck list for your enchantress?
I really appreciate the little popups of a card when Seth mentions it as a theoretical. It looked a little BM when he said "If they play ghostly prison we scoop it up" and then the exact printing that later gets played popped up, but that was just funny.
Finally an affinity deck with affinity on it lol
Yeah, it's pretty funny that a lot of recent "affinity" decks don't play any affinity cards.
@@MTGGoldfish what are you talking about, mox opal ha- *oh*
Against the Odds: Champion of the Parish
Against the odds: salamanders crossing bridge
Me: "I built this deck yesterday and I'll be darned if the price jumps before I order it!" Later, "Phew, got there"
Honestly, this is probably the deck I'm most excited is coming back from the dead. It always bothered me that the old Arcbound Ravager deck was called Affinity despite playing zero cards with Affinity. This on the other hand, THIS is Affinity. :)
15:00
Plating + Equipd + attack with orni = 9 Damage
Opp turn: Block with 4 creatures
Own turn: play thought monitor + orni + Attack with equipded orni = 7 damage = win
That Humans hand was GOD TIER
Yet, there was still a path to victory
21:40 could have still played the frogmite. Affinity reduced the cost by 3, and you had two mana open to pay the remaining cost.
Yeah, that was a brain fart. I was so focused on tracking how many artifacts on the battlefield I forgot that lands tap for mana, lol.
Still crushed that game though!
@@MTGGoldfish When you are so high-level that you forget that lands tap for mana.
25:00 You're playing a deck with 4 cranial plating... you can pay for 1 attacker with 10 power pretty realistically.
Thank you I was thinking the same thing
Both scoops were too early. Stony silence is not game over for affinity, only the lands and playing have activated abilities. Still worth seeing if they had an answer to frogmits and monitors
@@marshall4439 can't make blue mana, no springleaf drums either, so no thought monitors no thoughtcast, just gotta hope to draw enough froggy boys, sojourners and enforcers.
This, and also stony silence is why you run at least one or two basics.
The stony silence concede was probably fine, lands tend to be a lot better when they can produce mana
I too remember Mirrodin standard and 2.0. The memories of midrange aggro with greater consistency and speed than burn decks never leaves.
after getting destroyed by affinity a episode or 2 ago seth comes back with affinity, if only he did this every time he lost to tron
16:30 if you're casting two frogmites in the same turn, and the second one won't be free, make blinkmoth a creature using its own mana.
Could frogmite for 1, then for 0, then thoughtcast off of drum instead of just double frog
My brother and I were having a debate during MH2 spoilers whether Modern Affinity was dead without Mox Opal. Nice to see it bouncing back with new tech.
The scary thing is this deck isnt running urza's saga. Urza saga is legitimately one of the scariest cards in modern now.
Double karnstruct on a land is scary powerful with potential to pick up a lot of hate pieces that mess with a lot of archtypes or protects your aggro pieces.
@@zarathos888 Urza’s Saga (the card) will get banned.
Well there is not much « new tech ». This Classic Affinity build uses some of the new cards, but the plays are obvious. I just do not know if it is fast enough against the other aggro decks. This is not 2004 folks. Magic has evolved 10-folds since then.
I've been playing the blasts version of affinity for a couple years and I would say running 4x Galvanic blast instead of welding jar, or running Galvanic blasts in the board would do this deck a lot of good. That humans match could've used some burn.
Agree. Galvanic Blast is nuts!
OMG, I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish watching this video... round 1, and you are already undervaluing the pressure Cranial Plating puts on opponents. As an OG Standard Affinity player, it's wrecking my soul to see you prioritize Thoughtcast over getting the plating equipped and finishing your opponent.
Yeah, affinity is an aggro deck that kills the oppomemt on turn3 with some luck.
If you have an option that deals damage to face, its probably the right one.
you can use summoning sick creatures with springleaf drum! i think i noticed a couple of times where you could have played something with a drum but didn't, particularly in match 5. at 32:34 you could have played the cranial plating out and a couple of turns before that you could have played another thoughtcast.
also after animating the nexus he could have left the nexus there and use the enforcer + nexus creature to instant speed the plating onto the monitor that was not blocked using both drums.
this is practically pauper affinity
True.
Affinity being good again and being *actual* affinity makes me happy. To be clear, I've never played with it, but I love that it's back and seems like a sign of format health. Plus, I play white and run stony silence.
Everyone else watching this video: Affinity is back
Me watching this video: Enchantress is here
I really wish to see atog fling in modern. With those lands it seems playable. You could almost play pauper deck in modern now
You can using Arcbound Ravager.
You can play Ravenous Intruder. It's basically Atog as a Gremlin.
Atog is in modern
15:23 That dude got the Royal Flush of Humans lol
There were a couple of games where I would prioritize cast + equip plating then playing the thought-spells next turn instead, also you can beat ghostly with plating or nettlecyst, but man Stony or Karn TGC is instant scoop most of the time.
He's played so many combo or control decks that "card draw is always better" is etched into his DNA at this point. In this agro deck, what is he trying to draw INTO? either removal for a blocker or a threat. But he already has evasive creatures, so the plating is the *best* threat he could draw if he just did the math to check how much power it was adding each time.
That enchantress match was really something lol. as good as it is to see the deck do well, it's also good to see it destroyed once.
Infamous early scooping vs that ghostly prison, could have just waited to draw into cranial or the new living weapon and won with one hit or two
It was probably still hard to win from that point but I agree that Seth really makes some premature scoops sometimes.
That was a very silly thing to do.
@@TheChibidono he vastly underestimated cranial plating in nearly every matchup. If he'd slowed down enough to do the math it was sitting at +6 to +10 power and constantly representing a 2 swing clock. With how many cheap creatures he could dump out that would have let him be a turn or two faster and go "under" the other agro decks like humans.
Agree. Seth had the win on the board. He tends to play « automatically » sometimes without really thinking about *all* his options. Enchantress can no nothing against a cranial-plated flyer.
this guy always plays bad, clicked on the video by accident, blocked the channel now. : ]
I love your budget decks, Definitely going to be trying this out!
Thanks!
Ahaha! Then read my top comment on side-boarding. With Urza’s Saga (the card) in Modern, you should expect a *lot* of hate versus artifact builds. I am running four Root Maze (main deck). Cheers & happy gaming.
Cute! Keep in mind that white runs Stony Silence and green runs Root Maze main deck. If you want to bring Classic Affinity to a Modern tournament, I recommend having access to Islands or rare untapped lands that produce blue for Annul (four sideboard). Otherwise, expect major disappointments. (Times have changed a lot since 2004 when the Affinity Mechanic was made: the creature decks are much better and they can kill pretty much as fast or faster than Affinity.) Cheers & happy gaming! :-)
I am so happy right now. I left the game right after Kamigawa. It was heartbreaking to discover last year Affinity was only a Pauper thing.
24:42 THIS. this is everything I thought was missing. Thank you for showing the card.
in match 3 you go multiple turns without playing cranial plating, despite having killed meddling mage well beforehand
It is better to keep as a surprise the turn he can actually use it, then leave it on the battlefield with the opponent knowing about it.
I feel kind of nostalgic with this deck...
I don’t understand why you scoop to ghostly. You can cranial plating eventually and just pay for the one attacker can’t you?
Seth is an infamous early scooper
Yeah, I regret not playing that one out a little bit further. I think it's super unlikely that we could win, but it was technically possible.
I had the same thought. I understand scooping to Stony Silence though. that's brutal.
Yeah, Stony is Brutal. You could get there with attacking, but that plan needs your opponent to not have ghostly prison or any other kind of interaction.
that player posted their deck somewhere here. they were on 4 sterling grove, 3 solitary confinement and one stony silence mainboard. in addition to 12 enchantress effects. there was nearly no way seth kills them through a ghostly prison before they assemble some combination of cards that completely shuts seth down.
and while seth didn't know that exact list, he knew they were on enchantress. so he knew that they would start drawing lots of cards very soon and would likely pack various silver bullets in the main because sterling grove. like yeah it was an early scoop. but unless the opponent just completely stopped playing the game the chances of winning were still mostly nonexistent
This deck got me to try Magic again. Seems super fast and fun for a very cheap price! Thank you Saff!!
You should activate blinkmoth to increase your affinity count more often
Love seeing the card you reference come on screen. So good for new players!
Jim Davis did a version of this. I liked his inclusion of vault skirg over enforcer for more evasion and a little lifegain. He also used paradise mantle over bauble which I think is correct. You already have 4 thoughtcast and you have to sac bauble which reduces affinity which seems......bad? I also like one shadowspear with saga as a 1 of as a tutor target.
Now we need a Tezzeret deck for modern
Man, the fella playing enchantress must've been like "Well that was easy"
he's the comment below you lmao
As an Affinity turned Bots players since 2015, I miss Opal, and still approve.
Between modern infect, pauper affinity, and a few random pack pulls... I think I have most of this deck... neat!
I love watching your modern games. Learning a lot as I'm new to modern.
8 copies of "U: draw 2" is pretty gucci, yeah.
Seth never realizing he can cast frogmites for 1 or 2 instead of 0 was kinda painful, not gonna lie.
If it's not free what's the point? Seriously though, I did forget that lands tap for mana once or twice ;)
@@MTGGoldfish tapping lands for mana is for tryhards anyway.
there was a lot of "should/could have cast xyz card" moments in this one lol
So happy to see this deck. I can finally improve my mirrodin/darksteel affinity for artifacts deck
I was pretty amazed with this deck man, it just works so well! Here in Europe prices are much lower so I can pick this nice pile of cards for less than 30€ or so, so definetly trying this one out.
looking forward to trying to brew an affinity deck that can run galvanic and thought monitor
Having played affinity in pauper for a bit, I will say finding room for galvanic blast is definitely worthwhile. It gives you a lot of reach.. esp in this build where you have more card draw. You could pretty reliably threaten lethal when you're opponent is at 8 and 12 wouldn't be hard. At the least you could consider replacing vapor snag in the board and bring it in against stony silence or heavy removal decks (eg when the plating plan doesn't look so hot). Modern does have creatures with more than 4 toughness that need to be dealt with so I understand why you'd go for vapor snag but imagine the humans match up.. permanent removal is much better than giving them another etb. And galvanic blast practically beats death's shadow single handedly
35:30 « your opponent plays Stony Silence on Turn-2, you kind of lose the game. » If it *resolves* , then yes you do. Also if your opponent plays a Root Maze on Turn-1, you kind of lose the game. I recommend that you ditch the Wielding Jars: They do not help you win, and there are too many good permanents now (2021) that bypasses jars but are still very painful for Affinity to « fight through ». Cheers & Happy Gaming!
Bro your voice remains me so much the voice of that ps2 game "crazy taxi "
Love you're videos !
A non budget version could include Urza's Saga and Inkmoths over Blinkmoths. Concerning sideboard, how about Galvanic Blast over Vapor Snag?
Also, I'm thinking about some cool "main finisher", like Broodstar (which is suboptimal, but I love it so much ahahah)
My first ever FNM win was with Broodstar affinity when Mirrodin came out. There's definitely a special place in my heart for that card.
@@waynetrout4921 glad I’m not the only one ❤️
I dont think this deck cares for urza's saga. Its not an artifact, I don't want to spend 3 mana to make a body and searching for a 1 drop on turn 3 just feels suboptimal
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 why 3? You’re right, it’s not an artifact, but it allows you to put onto the battlefield two big/big constructs, each costing 2 mana. Also, on the third turn it allows you to search for a welding jar or a thopter, based on your needs, which is a juicy bonus!
@@MaskeJ I'm counting it as 3, since you have to tap the land itself plus two other sources.
Affinity is back yay!
I love the card pop ups that were added on this one
Mishra bauble just breaks the 100$ budget almost twice over
I remember my brother use to play a affinity cowardice deck in standard Mirrodin
sideboard could use some metallic rebuke, might help with tough matchups
I need a soundboard with all of seth’s onamonopias, and reactions. “Shooo”, “bahugah”, “oh. Mygod”,”yuuuuup yup yup yup”
I’m almost 100% sure you could’ve won that first game against humans. If you would’ve cast the plating instead of the thought monitor and equipped to an ornithopter you could attack for 9 in the air. Then the opponent would’ve either had to find an answer or kill you. But I guess you’d have to worry about path on the ornithopter.
humans dont play path
Even better. But after watching the full match I guess it doesn’t really matter. I haven’t played against humans in a long time so I forgot the list
That champion of the perish makes me think of seeing epser control pushing five times in four turns against d&t.
Loved the video! Stony Silence is more brutal than ever against this deck!
You can still attack trough stony silence.
With what? he can't use his mana, cranial stuck in hand forever, no access to colors, best he can hope for is drawing 0 mana creatures to eventually cast his 4 power non evasive stuff, by then he is beyond dead
26:53 Should have used springleaf drum to tap for blue and cast Thoughtcast while Opponent was tapped out.
There were a lot of missed opportunities to play spells, either with Springleaf Drum or just paying a generic mana to get an affinity snowball started. It speaks to the power of the deck, really, although Seth also benefits from his opponents not knowing what decks he's playing
There was a dimir and a grixis version of tgis deck back in the day and both would routinely win turn 2 with arcbound ravager and disciple of the vault it was wprse than eldrazi
I think it's time for an Update on this list! It's been 3 years and I need a list for the next 3 months. My LGS is having an RCQ each month and I want to take a Budget Affinity list to them!
Trying this for my first affinity deck core, thanks a ton! Got most of the deck for $35 lol. Pestmites gonna replace bauble for a while
Modern is looking pretty good now! Lots of diversity and most of the decks I see Seth play against aren't degenerate combos!
I'm curious about inkmoth nexus and/or ravager. I'm assuming they don't fit in the budget, but I wonder if ravager is better in the Nettlecyst slot? It's cheaper to cast and serves a similar purpose. Inkmoth might be good as an alternative win-con, and a way around things like ghostly prison because one attack by a pumped inkmoth will often end the game.
This is a good way to see if the deck will still be viable when Urzas Saga gets banned
Boarding in etched champion against a stomp deck is an interesting choice
idk about scooping that first game against Humans. he had to block 4 creatures, which would bring him down to 7 artifacts
equipping Plating onto a flier is 9 damage, since they cannot block it currently
the Thought Monitor in hand is the tenth damage, draw for turn and the two off the etb would require literally only a single castable/playable artifact, and let's just say, odds were good for that, and he would have had the 11 damage in the air...
Ahh yessssss!!! I wonder if we can still put in some Inkmoth Nexuses and Arcbound ravagers
Curious about the inclusion of Galvanic blast?? Has that been tested?
Affinity, there is only so much fun you can have in magic, so we must make sure opponent doesn't have any
Much like 80’s fashion, all good things come back in style.
Seth seems so happy with that shame scoop.
Would you consider ravager and steel overseer for this?
Yes! Also Power Depot works with ravager because it is a Modular land.
14:55 That Cranial Plating draw WAS enough, you just prioritized card draw over raw power. This video is killing me, lol.
Sweet video Seth. I wonder if boom bust or some land destruction could be do able with all the indestructible lands.
34:15 "What have we learned this week about REAL Affinity?"
Watching Seth play it will give Affinity players aneurysms.
But, seriously, I appreciate the content! Thought Monitor and new (read: not yet banned) artifact lands were a great pickup from MH2 for an archetype that's been dead for so long.
I think this could use ginger brute and maybe Bomat Courier for even more cards and evasion.
What do you take out?
might make a modern artifacts deck because of this
21:30 Oh no! You didn't play Frogmite and then Thoughtcast. You'd even still have a mana to cast Thought Monitor in the event Thoughtcast drew you two 0 mana creatures, which would give you Myr Enforcer.
Ah now I remember a new errata: "A deck may contain any number of Champion of the Parish"
I’ve been trying to find a comprehensive thought monitor affinity list and glad to see this today. I think I’m gonna put some glimmervoids in and maybe get some ravagers. Not sure what other improvements (apart from the to-be-banned urza’s saga) I’d need
Inkmoth nexus in addition/instead of blinkmoth. this gives you an even faster clock with cranial
Why scoop at @24:54 though, they are dead to two swings with a cranial plating and you are gonna see 3 cards next turn and have the flyer already.
Urza's saga from MH2 makes affinity way stronger also treasure vault from AFR is a great add .. IF you are not worried about the budget
I haven’t watched the videos yet, but I’ve never been too keen on modern affinity. Even a free Frogmite, a 2/2 for nothing seems bad
surprised Seth didn't pull out the hypergeometric calculator on that humans start. It was, roughly, a 1 in 2,500 chance
Was 21:38 a punt? You had 3 artifacts so you could have played frogmite for 1 and Thoughtcast but instead you did nothing and passed the turn. I guess you might have been trying to wait to be explosive and not let them kill or bounce frogmite with reflector mage before your big turn but it feels like it would have been correct mana efficiency wise
I think that this deck should have access to Ensoul Artifact (At least in the sideboard). Having the option to produce 5/5 indestructible creatures might be clutch in a few match-ups.
The springleaf can tap cards that have summoning sickness
In 2024 this is very playable. I love to see an upgrade
Ah, the beautiful nightmare of playing Magic outside of our school in 2004.
i think this deck needs overseer
It also needs pestermite too
@@thetallestguy You mean signal pest
There are a lot of cards he could add to improve the consistency or power of the deck. Inkmoth nexus is another that would often turn cranial into a 1-hit ko even against heavy lifegain decks
This deck is so sweet, love your content!!
Insta Scooping to Ghostly Prison - WITH TWO MANA AVAILABLE - was such a scrub move.
I was kinda hoping Seth to see a land destruction deck and see them be real sad about mono indestructible lands
Ghostly prison isn't bad enough to scoop!!! It's only 2 mana to attack through and with plating you have massive damage turns. Between spring leaf and your land base there's plenty of mana to pay the toll. Just my opinion
i lover affinity so much 1 mana draw 2s are the best.