For reference, the cheapest deck an opponent played in these five matches was burn at ~$400 to $600 in paper. The most expensive, Jund, is around $2000 in paper. Two of the decks of these five played at least one card where a single copy is more expensive than this budget deck [Liliana of the Veil at ~$90 in paper] and two of the other decks played at least one card that costs more than half as much as this deck for a single copy [Polluted Delta is ~$50 in paper, Stoneforge Mystic is ~$65]. Burn, the cheapest opposing deck, has two cards [Sunbaked Canyon and Arid Mesa] where a playset costs more than this budget deck.
@@papanurgle1169 yeah but that's europe prices. Fewer people play in Europe, although I would very much like to play there. Additionally, all online clients(Arena/MTGO) operate off of US prices. So yeah, generally speaking, for the majority of the playerbase, Jund is 2 grand and burn is 500$.
double goblin grenade has to be the funniest play in magic, the opponent is thinking lines, how to survive/ deal with the board. but they dont know they're already dead
I can just imagine in the lore there’s a planeswalker scheming in like a tower with spells and other planeswalkers only two have two exploding goblins flung into the window to kill everyone
@@winssports4830 Match 5 I saw a plains and was like "hammer time". Turned out it was orzhov reanimator with stoneblade. Ain't that good either, specially since I have like what, 5-6 years of magic under my belt, I'm practically a teen
@@Haurent yeah same I've been playing about the same amount of time. Less time in terms of competitiveness but I look at top decklists a lot and get sad every time I see them because it's always the same decks 😂. Whenever one different deck breaks through I'm always like ooooooooo.
@@winssports4830 eh, metagames are like that. There's a lot of people who wanna play competitive and tons of them don't wanna think and netdeck, that's why some odd brews get to shine, many just aren't prepared for it
@@kvetchenfinks7044 already 4 bolts in the main i think the 3 to the face is going to be more important in chalice matchups becuase the optional 3 to a creature isn't that relevant against them. with affinity being everywhere smash is also just better against that deck
Was going to make this same suggestion and definitely agree with Seth that 2 copies would be a good add. I've been using it a bunch with Standard Goblins on Arena (where Battle-Cry is also the MVP) and it's great for bouncing back from board wipes and flood protection.
@@Micheal_Porter what do you recommend instead of the 4 battle cry goblins? I’ve been experimenting with this and I’m struggling to find the final 4 cards. Also what do you think about 2x Goblin Bombardment
@@mund.8529 4 Burning Tree Emissary Is kind of key to giving the deck its nuttiest/scariest draws. Other considerations; I was always more of a fan of Ramunap Ruins than Castle Embereth, but whatever works for you. I've also tuned the deck for differing metas quite a bit. I eventually cut the Mogg War Marshalls in my own list, often replacing them with 2x of another 1 drop(Everything from Fanatical firebrand, to bomat courier), and then 2x "Card advantage cards." In my Mono red lists, these cards were light up the stage or flame of keld. In my RG lists, I used winding way, with an additional 2-4x card advantage cards in the sideboard. The reason being that 8whack lives or dies by its hand/board presence, and midrange decks will 100% 1-for-1 you out of the game, but the ability to topdeck a refill and turbo one or two more turns out will often kill the Opp. You can also consider trimming a land if you lower the curve this way. *Finally, a powerful sideboard card that's missing is Kari Zev's Expertise. Good luck, and happy whacking!
@@mund.8529 Furthermore, I've actually done a ton of tinkering and testing with the list. I've run lists that trim all the fat and run all 1 drops and whackers; I've run lists that run an additional 4 "goblin grenade" in Heartfire. I've run lists with 10x card advantage cards(4 lead the stampede, 4 winding way, 2 flame of keld). I've done a lot of pulling and pushing and twisting and refining of the exact numbers of deck
It says a lot about me that my first thought at the end of match 3 was that you could send a bm goblin grenade at your opponent’s goblin guide before casting the second grenade for lethal. Exert goblin superiority!
Seth, when an opposing Goblin Guide draws you a land you have no reason to complain because it's not a dead draw - had it not been a land, you wouldn't have drawn a card there.
@@MrDamojak A term these disgusting corporations use to describe people they trick into spending copious amounts of money. It's most common in gacha games, which is what arena is sadly.
Been playing variants of 8 whack for 6 years now. My fav ways to change this deck (if you want to) is to cut the mogg fanatics for 4 burning tree emissary. And the mogg war Marshalls for 4 mana morphose. (Example route) Turn 1: Cast foundry street or guide. Turn 2: Cast burning tree emissary, use mana from etb trigger to surge into a reckless bushwhacker (2 foundry triggers, 1+0 from bushwhacker) = possible 10 damage on turn 2 plus likely they have fetched or will fetch. Manamorphose: can be used to cycle , cast surge on bushwhacker, make two red mana for og bushwhack kicker. BTE will make you more resistant to fury and chalice game 2. Manamorphose will make you more resistant to chalice game 2 by helping you cycle to your other two drops and surge bushwhackers off without having to cast a one drop. Also you will get those lucky moments on turn 2 where you can manamorphose into a BTE into reckless bushwhacker, BTE into a BTE into reckless bushwhacker, manamorphose into a manamorphose (make 2 red mana) to cycle and cast either whacker or whatever creature you want suck as a guide, loyalist or goblin battle master. Having a couple stomping ground, BTE, and manamorphose give you the option to side destructive revelry, atarka's command. Downsides: BTE makes grenade and battle master pump ability a little more finicky.
I played this last fnm entirely unrelated to this video and it took a bunch of people by surprise! Everyone kept having to see my cards because they'd never heard of foundry Street denizen before somehow. I also got to double goblin grenade some too! Feels just as good to do in paper as it does on modo!
Cavern of souls + conspicuous snoop would be great adition against control. A black splash and munitions expert would be very good too. Den of the Bugbear can be an option too
Just wanted to say went out and bought the deck at my LGS (didn't even get the full side) and with a bit of luck placed that night in my locals modern event, Den of the bug bear is definitely needed but for sure the best budget option for modern and a blast for goblin fans.
What about Goblin Wardriver? It's two red for a 2/2 goblin warrior with Battle Cry (Whenever this creature attacks, each other attacking creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.)
I'm happy to see it, still good. I don't know if Battle Cry is worth, a lot of mana, maybe devastating summons is better. Manamorphose, Sunbaked and BTE also very good
This is meant to be budget. Sunbake is expensive and devastating summons doesn't produce goblins, its good when you ood but if you don't flood you need your lands. Burning tree is the same thing as its not a goblin for goblin grenade.
Thank you for this! I've been looking for something to play on MTGO without busting my wallet as I'm also trying to build up my first paper modern. This just fits the bill and looks like so much fun!
The only deck I kept when I sold out of Modern is my kuldotha whack deck with blue splash for sea gate stormcaller to double rebirth and grenade. Seeing 12 whack brings me joy
@@bobusan8741 time, mostly. No point in me maintaining a competitive $1500 deck if I can only really play once a month, IMO. So with all the new releases every, what, 2 weeks? I was burnt out keeping up. Sucks cause I liked my deck and the format a lot
@@bobusan8741 exactly. If I’m going to fnm and playing to win, I want to have a deck that isn’t out of date, or poorly adjusted to meta shifts. If I’m not playing to win, which is fine, then why have $1500 invested? Partially makes me wish I had invested in MTGO right when the pandemic started, then I could play at home and “maintain” to my hearts content, but I don’t like paying money for digital cards (I still play arena for free, mostly to draft)
@@Cornelius135 haha, we seem to share a mindset there. Exactly my thoughts on mtgo. Kinda to late for me to join. Also, this has happened to my izzet Blitz deck after strix haven and mh2. But I guess I will now play the “classic” version
Bout to start playing again if I can scope out a good FNM scene I’m thinking this deck -3 Mogg Fanatic, -1 Mountain. +2 Fanatical Firebrand +1 Piledriver +1 Ramunap Ruins Subtotal:$105.74 Over time I suppose I could upgrade with fetch lands and Sunbaked Canyons. Or just spend half a paycheck for a fully competitive Affinity deck with Urza’s Saga’s and call it an investment. I don’t see that card being banned anytime soon?? Idk how frequently Bans work in MTG anymore.
Super spicy. If I was going to start playing modern I'd rather play that hollow one list because it's so wacky, but this seems like it can take games like nothing.
Would one or two Den of the Bugbear be a nice replacement for mountains or castles? it would help the flooding and work as emergency goblin for granade (tho 5 lands to be able to attack or granade is a lot so maybe it's too out of range, got not that much modern knowledge to know if it's a good call)
I wonder if a land creature package of a couple of mutavaults, faithless havens and den of the bugbear would be good in this.... obviously wouldn't want too many but it might shift the math in a couple close games.
"As Serra's Emissary enters the battlefield, choose a card type. You and creatures you control have protection from the chosen card type." The creatures do no damage to opponent until Emissary dies, so it would only be 8 damage (grenade and bolt to face). You can't even mogg fanatic their face cuz of the protection from creatures. If you kill Emissary with the bolt + grenade, activate embereth, still only 7 damage and he dies on the clap back.
Do you think running Mogg War Marshall is better than BTE? I’ve always liked BTE more for surge and bushwhacker, but with battle cry goblin I can understand why you would play mogg instead.
Excelent content! Im building this deck for a mini open tourment that I will assist this weekend, one question, isnt good to have the goblin wardriver in this deck? (im building the not budget edition) I think the wardriver will let me be more agresive, what do you guys think about it?
I think it's mostly because you need a lot of Goblins and the most popular Goblin deck in Modern is more of a combo deck that doesn't really care about throwing five damage to the face (if it wins it's going to deal infinite damage, so burn isn't that relevant), so it uses other things for removal.
Those goblin guides vs the burn deck gave you so many lands 😂… almost like you were playing against me! (It wasn’t me) My goblin guides LOVE giving my opponents lands 😩 Edit: how do you feel about Blood Moon or Magus of the Moon(budget)? They ain’t goblins, but most of your opponents lands seemed to be non-basic
Might as well play Goblin Chieftain over BCG though? Perma +1/+1 and haste for the boys. 3 mana over the (essentially) 4cmc BCG. Doesn't make a token, but you could probably fit in 1-2 Warboss over like, 1 Loyalist & 1 Fanatic. Or just run 2 BCG instead of 1 Loyalist and 1 Fanatic.
So I am curious. I don’t play much modern, and don’t play on MTGO. I have been watching your videos for quite a while and have heard you say several times, “X deck doesn’t normally play this certain card”. So I am wondering, how often do you play against “official” decklists? Like the exact build of common and popular decks. What are usually referred to as net decks. I am wondering if there is a certain percentage playing against those types of decks and home brew decks, ones that aren’t normally considered the “meta”.
Piledriver as a 1 of in the main makes sense, but I think having 2-3 in the SB is a fantastic idea. For games where the opponent has few to no blockers, it is just an extremely high-value creature, especially better than something like mogg war marshal (which excels in matches where the opponent has a board presence)
Is conspicuous snoop too slow? Too many two drops? Seeing battlecry on top and being able to "whack" seems deece. Also seeing mogg fanatic and being able to sac your entire board to finish oppt off also seems deece. Idk.
Suddenly existentialism at 6:26 "The only question is can we live long enough to do everything we want."
Take my like. You know that’s why I like Aggro decks. No time to be anxious of the Other.
For reference, the cheapest deck an opponent played in these five matches was burn at ~$400 to $600 in paper. The most expensive, Jund, is around $2000 in paper. Two of the decks of these five played at least one card where a single copy is more expensive than this budget deck [Liliana of the Veil at ~$90 in paper] and two of the other decks played at least one card that costs more than half as much as this deck for a single copy [Polluted Delta is ~$50 in paper, Stoneforge Mystic is ~$65]. Burn, the cheapest opposing deck, has two cards [Sunbaked Canyon and Arid Mesa] where a playset costs more than this budget deck.
Wait, how much does sunbaked canyon cost!?
This is why I don't play modern haha
@@jameshanus3813 $20.
@@The_BlvckSun modern its not expensive like he said... burn in europe its 250€(295us$)
And jund is 800/1000€(1200us&) not 2000..
@@papanurgle1169 yeah but that's europe prices. Fewer people play in Europe, although I would very much like to play there.
Additionally, all online clients(Arena/MTGO) operate off of US prices.
So yeah, generally speaking, for the majority of the playerbase, Jund is 2 grand and burn is 500$.
Other players: Oh I'm popping off!
Me: Oh I'm wackering off!
Everyone else at the LGS: 😳
Just wackin’ this bush, nothing to see here 🤣
No no, wackering is a thing you do while getting lost in downtown chicago!
@@briankuczynski6884 as a local southside resident I approve this comment.
Your LGS is in San Diego?
double goblin grenade has to be the funniest play in magic, the opponent is thinking lines, how to survive/ deal with the board. but they dont know they're already dead
I can just imagine in the lore there’s a planeswalker scheming in like a tower with spells and other planeswalkers only two have two exploding goblins flung into the window to kill everyone
@@jameshanus3813 It's basically the MTG version of the last season of Game of Thrones. All that planning and buildup for nothing!
NEVER underestimate the aerodynamic qualities of the common goblin...
It's still crazy to me that you can tell what deck someone is playing in Modern because they played a basic Island on turn 1.
Lots and lots of games lol. I've gotten pretty good at it myself but I'm not that good.
@@winssports4830 Match 5 I saw a plains and was like "hammer time". Turned out it was orzhov reanimator with stoneblade. Ain't that good either, specially since I have like what, 5-6 years of magic under my belt, I'm practically a teen
@@Haurent yeah same I've been playing about the same amount of time. Less time in terms of competitiveness but I look at top decklists a lot and get sad every time I see them because it's always the same decks 😂. Whenever one different deck breaks through I'm always like ooooooooo.
@@winssports4830 eh, metagames are like that. There's a lot of people who wanna play competitive and tons of them don't wanna think and netdeck, that's why some odd brews get to shine, many just aren't prepared for it
@@Haurent brewing is the best imo
That bolt top deck to win vs The Rock was easily the highlight of the year for Seth's budget magic series. One time, the magic gods saved us for good
smash to smithereens should be a 4x sideboard of all decks like this and burn as Chalice is everywhere. also hits a cheeky batterskull
Hammer time too
I think abrade is just better all around more versatile. The burn damage is nice tho
@@kvetchenfinks7044 already 4 bolts in the main i think the 3 to the face is going to be more important in chalice matchups becuase the optional 3 to a creature isn't that relevant against them. with affinity being everywhere smash is also just better against that deck
One of the most nail-biting games you've posted. So many close games
What do you think about adding den of the bugbear for some more reach against flooding out?
I think a copy or two could be worthwhile.
Was going to make this same suggestion and definitely agree with Seth that 2 copies would be a good add. I've been using it a bunch with Standard Goblins on Arena (where Battle-Cry is also the MVP) and it's great for bouncing back from board wipes and flood protection.
I was literally about to comment this lol.
wow the best budget deck gets more cards
im excited for this
The deck is still sweet :)
Will say, having played a hell of a lot of 8whack, that I think 12 whack isn't necessarily the way go.
Still fucking sweet though
@@Micheal_Porter what do you recommend instead of the 4 battle cry goblins? I’ve been experimenting with this and I’m struggling to find the final 4 cards. Also what do you think about 2x Goblin Bombardment
@@mund.8529 4 Burning Tree Emissary Is kind of key to giving the deck its nuttiest/scariest draws.
Other considerations; I was always more of a fan of Ramunap Ruins than Castle Embereth, but whatever works for you.
I've also tuned the deck for differing metas quite a bit. I eventually cut the Mogg War Marshalls in my own list, often replacing them with 2x of another 1 drop(Everything from Fanatical firebrand, to bomat courier), and then 2x "Card advantage cards." In my Mono red lists, these cards were light up the stage or flame of keld. In my RG lists, I used winding way, with an additional 2-4x card advantage cards in the sideboard. The reason being that 8whack lives or dies by its hand/board presence, and midrange decks will 100% 1-for-1 you out of the game, but the ability to topdeck a refill and turbo one or two more turns out will often kill the Opp.
You can also consider trimming a land if you lower the curve this way.
*Finally, a powerful sideboard card that's missing is Kari Zev's Expertise.
Good luck, and happy whacking!
@@mund.8529 Furthermore, I've actually done a ton of tinkering and testing with the list. I've run lists that trim all the fat and run all 1 drops and whackers; I've run lists that run an additional 4 "goblin grenade" in Heartfire. I've run lists with 10x card advantage cards(4 lead the stampede, 4 winding way, 2 flame of keld). I've done a lot of pulling and pushing and twisting and refining of the exact numbers of deck
It says a lot about me that my first thought at the end of match 3 was that you could send a bm goblin grenade at your opponent’s goblin guide before casting the second grenade for lethal. Exert goblin superiority!
Love it!
Ever since the editor did "Seth, probably known as _Seeeeetttthhhh",_ I still hear it in my head every time Seth says his intro
Seth, when an opposing Goblin Guide draws you a land you have no reason to complain because it's not a dead draw - had it not been a land, you wouldn't have drawn a card there.
In fact, not only NOT COMPLAIN, but you should always BE GRATEFUL of the free card drawn and zero information given
@@DinoMarcoccia Exactly
I see budget magic, I see not-historic, I click.
Arena is trash designed for whales.
I avoid Historic content like the plague
@@x600NitroXpress whales?
@@MrDamojak A term these disgusting corporations use to describe people they trick into spending copious amounts of money. It's most common in gacha games, which is what arena is sadly.
19:34 I love that you casually have a second Goblin grenade for 5 additional damage.
"We're just helping you grow your Deaths Shadows, opponent".. I literally laughed out loud at that
Been playing variants of 8 whack for 6 years now. My fav ways to change this deck (if you want to) is to cut the mogg fanatics for 4 burning tree emissary. And the mogg war Marshalls for 4 mana morphose. (Example route) Turn 1: Cast foundry street or guide. Turn 2: Cast burning tree emissary, use mana from etb trigger to surge into a reckless bushwhacker (2 foundry triggers, 1+0 from bushwhacker) = possible 10 damage on turn 2 plus likely they have fetched or will fetch. Manamorphose: can be used to cycle , cast surge on bushwhacker, make two red mana for og bushwhack kicker. BTE will make you more resistant to fury and chalice game 2. Manamorphose will make you more resistant to chalice game 2 by helping you cycle to your other two drops and surge bushwhackers off without having to cast a one drop. Also you will get those lucky moments on turn 2 where you can manamorphose into a BTE into reckless bushwhacker, BTE into a BTE into reckless bushwhacker, manamorphose into a manamorphose (make 2 red mana) to cycle and cast either whacker or whatever creature you want suck as a guide, loyalist or goblin battle master. Having a couple stomping ground, BTE, and manamorphose give you the option to side destructive revelry, atarka's command. Downsides: BTE makes grenade and battle master pump ability a little more finicky.
I wonder what Hannibal thinks of the deck
Hannibal: Wack.
This is pop culture crossover I didn’t know I needed in my life.
Frigging goblin grenades giving me middleschool flash backs
Bolt Hound is crying in the corner of the room.
If only it was a Goblin!
I played this last fnm entirely unrelated to this video and it took a bunch of people by surprise! Everyone kept having to see my cards because they'd never heard of foundry Street denizen before somehow. I also got to double goblin grenade some too! Feels just as good to do in paper as it does on modo!
Opponent: ok so I've established a board presence, pretty stable at 10 life
Seth with two grenades in hand: OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU
Lol Saffron Olive pulling out the Spirit of Bruce Lee with that battle Whack 7:10
when he said sad whack, i felt that
I was half expecting to see Tivadar's Crusade make an appearance in match 4.
Children: Walk into a Gingerbread House
Old woman who lives in the house: 31:57
7:13 best reaction ever lol i love seth saffron olive.
YES!
The two newest Whack cards are both uncommon, so I'm curious what a rare and mythic whack goblin would look like
Probably a 1 drop pump +1+1
That double Goblin Grenade Beat down from game two was savage! I like it!!!
Cavern of souls + conspicuous snoop would be great adition against control. A black splash and munitions expert would be very good too. Den of the Bugbear can be an option too
goblin guides, in a budget deck. How the mighty hath fallen
The double goblin grenades are ridiculous lmao. I love it.
27:30 : Shouldn't you have attacked Liliana and killed it using reality hemorrage? This liliana just sinked so much damage after that...
Just wanted to say went out and bought the deck at my LGS (didn't even get the full side) and with a bit of luck placed that night in my locals modern event, Den of the bug bear is definitely needed but for sure the best budget option for modern and a blast for goblin fans.
What about Goblin Wardriver? It's two red for a 2/2 goblin warrior with Battle Cry (Whenever this creature attacks, each other attacking creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.)
"feeling frisky. Not that frisky." dead
“Getting frisky, getting frisky, not that frisky” 😂😂
the 12 whack goblin was my nickname in high school
Ouch
That's the goblins off in whose camper they were whacking!
How awesome would this deck be with Mogg Fanatic if damage still used the stack? The answer is only slightly more awesome I think.
I'm happy to see it, still good. I don't know if Battle Cry is worth, a lot of mana, maybe devastating summons is better. Manamorphose, Sunbaked and BTE also very good
This is meant to be budget. Sunbake is expensive and devastating summons doesn't produce goblins, its good when you ood but if you don't flood you need your lands. Burning tree is the same thing as its not a goblin for goblin grenade.
@@beelor5777 devastating wins a lot of games, also bte is playable even if is not a goblin
Thank you for this! I've been looking for something to play on MTGO without busting my wallet as I'm also trying to build up my first paper modern. This just fits the bill and looks like so much fun!
Trellon also has an ultra budget U Tron deck that’s insane!!! It’s no more than I think like 50tix and it’s gotta be at least tier 2.
@@daradascoli3385 thank you Dara, I'll check it out for sure!
Seth... awesome deck. Drop 2 mountains add 2 embercleave
Man I ALMOST felt sorry for that Jund DS player, you know he was calling you EVERY rude name under the sun after 2 games of double Grenades.
Such a boss win though
@@kristiandahl1310 Yes it was
The only deck I kept when I sold out of Modern is my kuldotha whack deck with blue splash for sea gate stormcaller to double rebirth and grenade. Seeing 12 whack brings me joy
Why did you buy out of modern?
@@bobusan8741 time, mostly. No point in me maintaining a competitive $1500 deck if I can only really play once a month, IMO. So with all the new releases every, what, 2 weeks? I was burnt out keeping up. Sucks cause I liked my deck and the format a lot
@@Cornelius135 thanks for the explanation. By maintain you mean buy new additions to keep the deck in the meta?
@@bobusan8741 exactly. If I’m going to fnm and playing to win, I want to have a deck that isn’t out of date, or poorly adjusted to meta shifts. If I’m not playing to win, which is fine, then why have $1500 invested? Partially makes me wish I had invested in MTGO right when the pandemic started, then I could play at home and “maintain” to my hearts content, but I don’t like paying money for digital cards (I still play arena for free, mostly to draft)
@@Cornelius135 haha, we seem to share a mindset there. Exactly my thoughts on mtgo. Kinda to late for me to join.
Also, this has happened to my izzet Blitz deck after strix haven and mh2. But I guess I will now play the “classic” version
Aight, we've done 16 whack, now can we see 16 rack, with the new additions? Urzas saga, dauthi voidwalker and mishra's factory (maybe tourach)?
MTG Player in me: Love to see more Goblin Content :D
Still my favourite tribe!!! (next to humans :3)
Token fanatic in me: Not enough tokens!!!🔥🔥🔥
Goblins just keeping Whacking off...Lol
*Thanks* *For* *The* *Content* !
23:33
Seth: I’m one point short
Mogg fanatic: Am I a joke to you😑
Are you sure? Seth is known to sometimes not read his cards🤣
Bout to start playing again if I can scope out a good FNM scene I’m thinking this deck -3 Mogg Fanatic, -1 Mountain.
+2 Fanatical Firebrand
+1 Piledriver
+1 Ramunap Ruins
Subtotal:$105.74
Over time I suppose I could upgrade with fetch lands and Sunbaked Canyons.
Or just spend half a paycheck for a fully competitive Affinity deck with Urza’s Saga’s and call it an investment. I don’t see that card being banned anytime soon?? Idk how frequently Bans work in MTG anymore.
Holly shut this is exactly the deck I needed
Sweats and tryhards at my LGS will get so mad
Battle cry goblin IF you have 4 lands. You should biff him One time before attack and One under attack... Then you buff the token to.
A Pioneer variant of this would also be great. Then you could bring back Goblin Rabblemaster and tokens.
But then you'd have to play pioneer :barf:
You'd want to play awful 3 drops that die to about everything why? Like you can but it doesn't make the deck better.
Go Boros for Honored Crop-Captain
A non budget deck with fetches and horizon lands would be so good.
33:50
Can anyone explain to me why he surrendered with lethal damage in hand when opponent had his creatures tapped out?
Super spicy. If I was going to start playing modern I'd rather play that hollow one list because it's so wacky, but this seems like it can take games like nothing.
Glad you're playing Battle Cry Goblin! Now you can have some Whack Pack Tac Attacks
Dude I absolutely love your brews 😂 good job
Thanks!
Yeah battlecry goblin def flew under the radar, quite the boss creature itself if unchecked
Honestly, I think against control this deck could use more Piledrivers in sideboard.
Game 2 is why I run 4 of piledriver. Got a lot of 5-0 fnms when my local meta was just Thing in the Ice Phoenix decks & Hogaak dredge
Never had so much fun whachking it. Oh wait....
Those Goblin Grenade kills are so fun reminds me of my Shrapnel Blast kills with Affinity haha
Glad to see the intro back
I was just playing an 8-whack goblin grenade list on Friday. I look forward to the upgrade!
Great intro
Would one or two Den of the Bugbear be a nice replacement for mountains or castles? it would help the flooding and work as emergency goblin for granade (tho 5 lands to be able to attack or granade is a lot so maybe it's too out of range, got not that much modern knowledge to know if it's a good call)
kozileks return is a nice devoid card also. would saved you there against burn with the creature draw since it deals 2 to every creature
In that second game against orzhov reanimator why not play the mountain and pump with castle for an extra point of damage?
7:13 the sound of Goblin Grenade card
.....$35 Budget Infect?
Did you forget it, Seth?
Does it need a rework??
Goblin Wardriver. Lets go for 16
Signal Pest for 20 whack, although it ain't a goblin
I'm waiting for 60 whack deck
Couple Ramunap Ruins?
best intro ever
I wonder if a land creature package of a couple of mutavaults, faithless havens and den of the bugbear would be good in this.... obviously wouldn't want too many but it might shift the math in a couple close games.
His Mill? WHACK. His Jund? WHACK. His Burn? WHACK. His Rock? WHACK. His Stoneblade? WHACK. Me? I'm tight as fuck.
33:50 I'm confused wasn't that 13-14 damage?
"As Serra's Emissary enters the battlefield, choose a card type. You and creatures you control have protection from the chosen card type."
The creatures do no damage to opponent until Emissary dies, so it would only be 8 damage (grenade and bolt to face). You can't even mogg fanatic their face cuz of the protection from creatures.
If you kill Emissary with the bolt + grenade, activate embereth, still only 7 damage and he dies on the clap back.
@@shadowjamm thanks
Why no den of the bugbear? Seems good for those flood games, and it's an untapped land early when you need it to be.
Do you think running Mogg War Marshall is better than BTE? I’ve always liked BTE more for surge and bushwhacker, but with battle cry goblin I can understand why you would play mogg instead.
Excelent content! Im building this deck for a mini open tourment that I will assist this weekend, one question, isnt good to have the goblin wardriver in this deck? (im building the not budget edition) I think the wardriver will let me be more agresive, what do you guys think about it?
I always wondered why no one played Goblin Grenade
I think it's mostly because you need a lot of Goblins and the most popular Goblin deck in Modern is more of a combo deck that doesn't really care about throwing five damage to the face (if it wins it's going to deal infinite damage, so burn isn't that relevant), so it uses other things for removal.
The cards to upgrade my 8 wack deck are already in my cart. Lol
... Curious to see what a Kuldotha 12-Whack would look like.
Wouldn't pyrite spellbomb be just better than reality hemorrhage? You have no spell synergies and being 1 mana could help with surge.
Those goblin guides vs the burn deck gave you so many lands 😂… almost like you were playing against me! (It wasn’t me)
My goblin guides LOVE giving my opponents lands 😩
Edit: how do you feel about Blood Moon or Magus of the Moon(budget)? They ain’t goblins, but most of your opponents lands seemed to be non-basic
Shenanigans would have made up those last couple life points. Have that in a goblin sac deck
Thank you for the video Seth, I've been watching your modern content for years and I might actually have to put this together in paper.
Might as well play Goblin Chieftain over BCG though? Perma +1/+1 and haste for the boys. 3 mana over the (essentially) 4cmc BCG. Doesn't make a token, but you could probably fit in 1-2 Warboss over like, 1 Loyalist & 1 Fanatic. Or just run 2 BCG instead of 1 Loyalist and 1 Fanatic.
The token and the ability to double pump is important
So I am curious. I don’t play much modern, and don’t play on MTGO. I have been watching your videos for quite a while and have heard you say several times, “X deck doesn’t normally play this certain card”. So I am wondering, how often do you play against “official” decklists? Like the exact build of common and popular decks. What are usually referred to as net decks. I am wondering if there is a certain percentage playing against those types of decks and home brew decks, ones that aren’t normally considered the “meta”.
Piledriver as a 1 of in the main makes sense, but I think having 2-3 in the SB is a fantastic idea. For games where the opponent has few to no blockers, it is just an extremely high-value creature, especially better than something like mogg war marshal (which excels in matches where the opponent has a board presence)
I highly recommend setting 31:52 at 2x
XD *EPIC SETH INTRO* is very entertaining
did anyone else notice he could've used castle embreth to pump, swing, and grenade ftw on match 5?
if you think about it castle embrath is 4 more whacks.
Goblins don't need sideboards! Maybe it was before my time but I don't remember Goblin Guide being over 75.
I think he meant a playset was once more than this whole deck. It was over $20 for a long time.
Battlecry goblin performed perfectly
Is conspicuous snoop too slow? Too many two drops? Seeing battlecry on top and being able to "whack" seems deece. Also seeing mogg fanatic and being able to sac your entire board to finish oppt off also seems deece. Idk.
I think it's too slow for the deck. It could be worth it in the sideboard for grindy matchups though.
That was a omg its lightning helix moment
A set of Ramunap Ruins would be a cheap and easy upgrade, the life will hardly ever matter and blood moon just turns it back to a mountain.
This was secretly a goblin grenade burn deck the whole time lol