Yeah, I'd love to see a version of this deck that wasn't restricted to two colors. Both Ajani, the Greathearted and Kasmina, Enigma Sage seem like they'd be really sweet with Carth.
If you go into the description and open the article, Seth made a non-budget version of the deck! Edit: He typically makes ultra budget versions too but he couldn't for this one, apparently.
Or the game losing punt, by not moving the pro-black sword. "Maybe they should have gotten this other game-winning sword". No. They should have just not punted.
Carth seemed weirdly good against the burn deck, he came down and gummed up the board made it hard for the creatures to attack you or a planeswalker. and was nearly impossible to remove with burn. obviously if burn draws a fast hand it'll just go under it but if you can force burn into the mid game carth seems pretty good.
Props to the burn opponent for letting the Vraska emblem get the win. It certainly could have just been salt, but I choose to believe that they were impressed
Right? They had a bolt in hand, so they could've dragged the game on for a while by bolting Vraska. I'm guessing they did the math and figured they could topdeck another burn spell if they could survive one more turn, but the Binding killing their blocker nixed that idea. They could've scooped on the spot, but they let Vraska do her thing for the win.
And once again, nobody is ready for the budget deck strategies. Seth, you keep proving this to be my favorite of your series. Why you gotta keep me hooked like this?
I think one of the reasons this deck beat the burn deck was the lack of shock and fetches. Losing an extra 2-3 life to get one land would have been bad against burn. Would love to see a less of a budget version, Seth. Solid deck and it was fun watching you get excited beating crazy expensive decks.
This deck was fantastic! Really fun looking. I do think the deck could use 1-2 maindeck wraths though, given that this deck doesn't have many creatures.
In the decklist sidebar, Ashiok is shown as a green card in the sideboard, despite being hybrid UB. This might be a silly thing to point out, but I think that's an error.
Game 1 Match 1 that opponent DEFINITELY had multiple Prismatic Omen in their hand. They couldn't kill a Land creature or a high CMC planeswalker with those.
On the one hand, in glad that there's a downside to that card. On the other hand, I wish it didn't take something this specific to create that scenario.
44:44 (Against Phoenix) "Void Mirror, I don't think does anything." It stops Gut Shots from being cast as a free spell, also the Rebound of Faithless Salvaging. That's not a ton, but both are 4-ofs in the Phoenix deck, and pretty important for casting early Lichs and Phoenixes. Not to mention making Demilich harder to cast itself. I think that's probably enough to warrant siding it in.
2 months later gonna request a non budget version of this deck. It's so cool and maybe even add doubling season? I'm building my own just need to pick my PWs. Thanks again 👍
36:27, "I do like that we can, if there's a Blood Sun out, we can Field of Ruin the Lotus Field." This is incorrect. Presumably, the thought was that Blood Sun gets rid of the Hexproof ability on Lotus Field, but it *also* gets rid of Field of Ruin's ability to destroy lands, which means that you cannot destroy the Lotus Field with a Field of Ruin even if Blood Sun is on the battlefield.
Aaand approximately one minute later, we see exactly that scenario play out. This is why I should always finish watching the video before commenting, haha.
Sakura-Tribe Elder is better than Rampant Growth. I was thinking I was saving a few dollars on the budget, but in reality there isn't that much of a price difference.
Makes me sad to see Lilly in a budget deck… still remember paying $100 a piece for mine years ago :( But this was a ton of fun, love me some walker decks!
So how far along is the puppy cam? Are we getting "bear and friends tribal" for against the odds soon (puppies tribal)? Can we make sure bear had plenty of cables to chew on, I hear they are his favorite
I have a Carth EDH deck. Lots of fun and powerful in a non-cEDH way, but also a lot of solitaire, meeting track of what you've activated and what you haven't, and spending a lot of time sequencing your turn. "Ok, tick this one up, make a token. Tick this one down to draw cards, resolve Carth trigger, then draw the cards. Now everyone discard a card..." Lots of options and different lines. I'd only suggest it if you can usually take fast turns out if your playgroup is ok with that sort of thing.
Haven't watched yet, just saw the title while in the middle of Colbert and had to come say, in response to the title question, "I have no idea, but I would VERY much like to find out."
If you want to scoop then please either just do it and move on, or keep playing and don’t moan about it. I don’t personally care if you scoop when the situation looks dire or if you stick it out to the bitter end, but the “not scooping because people will yell at me” refrain is getting really tired and sets up a “creator vs. audience” vibe that just isn’t healthy.
This is a pretty bad selection of matches. A bunch of mana-screwed opponents that never did anything? I feel like most decks could have won these matches.
Opponent: does literally nothing all the way to turn 5 in which he hardcasts a Batterskull Seth: "Look at this 100 dollars deck! Look at what we're doing to the modern format!" also Seth: proceeds to lose this game.
The Snarls are always so bad, and you lose a lot of budget magic games because of them. I think sticking to man lands and pain lands is where you want to be.
$100 is not that low of a budget, and the deck is basically a control deck. Why is anyone surprised it's performing well? Control is inherently competitive by nature. Any deck that has as its primary focus to stop your opponent playing magic is going to be a pretty good deck. Carth has nothing to do with it. You run enough interaction to stop your opponent playing the game, you're gonna win more games, that's all there is to it. I would be a lot more impressed with this deck's wins if he wasn't running boring cards like Binding the Old Gods, Maelstrom Pulse, Bloodchief's Thirst, etc. If you're running those cards then the viability of your deck increases considerably. It baffles me that he's able to look at this deck after playing it and say "Wow Carth is amazing", even if Carth IS amazing -- it's the removal doing all the real dirty work. ANY card or combo or strategy will shine if you back it with control. It doesn't matter if it's Happily Ever After or Shrines or Carth or Mill or Coalition Victory or whatever the hell else you want to win with. If you're running control in the deck you made it more viable and consistent and took away the challenge of winning with it, no matter how janky it might appear to be at the surface when you introduce it. Disappointing. Not surprising, but very disappointing.
I literally don't get this reply. Every control deck (if this is really control) needs a wincon. This one happens to be plainwalkers more or less. Why is that unimpressive? How would you have like to seen this shell built? You say control is "always good" and the purpose of this series is go make good decks. Also $100 in a format that now averages probably $800-$1000 for a deck is dirt cheap. You can even buy a playset of some fastlands for $100 much less an entire deck.
I think one of the reasons this deck beat the burn deck was the lack of shock and fetches. Losing an extra 2-3 life to get one land would have been bad against burn. Would love to see a less of a budget version, Seth. Solid deck and it was fun watching you get excited beating crazy expensive decks.
I would love to see a non-budget version of this deck as well
Yeah, I'd love to see a version of this deck that wasn't restricted to two colors. Both Ajani, the Greathearted and Kasmina, Enigma Sage seem like they'd be really sweet with Carth.
Check the much abrew deck he called out at the end! It’s very cool.
If you go into the description and open the article, Seth made a non-budget version of the deck!
Edit: He typically makes ultra budget versions too but he couldn't for this one, apparently.
I hope he does a non-budget version or incrementally less-budgeted versions on stream :)
@@jamitaro-kun I forgot about that. I used to only read the articles when I first found mtggoldfish, and now I only watch the videos!
Seth: goldfishing against a land flooded opponent, hard ultimates a planeswalker
Also Seth: look what we're doing to the modern format, tearing it up!
Or the game losing punt, by not moving the pro-black sword.
"Maybe they should have gotten this other game-winning sword".
No. They should have just not punted.
I'm betting they had Prismatic Omens in hand. It can't kill high cmc planeswalkers or land creatures
3:14 Seth: "Opponent's hand is Grief and Solitude."
Same OP, Same.
😂 well spotted
I was feeling awful tonight, but seeing this video uploaded brightened my night.
Thanks Seth
Feel better!
Some day I hope to find a love as pure as Seth's love for winning with jank.
Nice one bro
Carth seemed weirdly good against the burn deck, he came down and gummed up the board made it hard for the creatures to attack you or a planeswalker. and was nearly impossible to remove with burn. obviously if burn draws a fast hand it'll just go under it but if you can force burn into the mid game carth seems pretty good.
That tends to be true for any deck against burn.
Welp you know what this means. Time to remake this deck again for Much Abrew
I'm down.
of course I’m gonna click on it. How can I not it’s literally planeswalkers *and* modern
Dude, what the heck, the deck is super sweet! Congrats on another impressive build!
Thanks!
39:25 I found the little Seth at the bottom right of every video distracting at first but it's great to see moments like this.
I absolutely love it, lol. Seth is so emotive xD
You are a joy to watch, Seth! You're my favorite MTG player by far
First opponent has played an off curve inquisition and batterskull by turn 6
Seth "look at us running over modern"
100% he had dead Prismatic Omens in hand that just couldn't kill a land creature or 5 drop walkers.
Props to the burn opponent for letting the Vraska emblem get the win. It certainly could have just been salt, but I choose to believe that they were impressed
Right? They had a bolt in hand, so they could've dragged the game on for a while by bolting Vraska. I'm guessing they did the math and figured they could topdeck another burn spell if they could survive one more turn, but the Binding killing their blocker nixed that idea. They could've scooped on the spot, but they let Vraska do her thing for the win.
I'm not in love with planewalkers but I have to admit this deck is sweet hope to see a more optimized version of it on the future.
And once again, nobody is ready for the budget deck strategies.
Seth, you keep proving this to be my favorite of your series. Why you gotta keep me hooked like this?
I think one of the reasons this deck beat the burn deck was the lack of shock and fetches. Losing an extra 2-3 life to get one land would have been bad against burn. Would love to see a less of a budget version, Seth. Solid deck and it was fun watching you get excited beating crazy expensive decks.
Been waiting for a video on Carth. Very excited to see how this goes.
I been subbed for at least +7 years. I am not sure if he has ever taken more then 5 days without an upload.
@@amazingwil True, but he does so many series and there are so many cards, its not guaranteed he'll build what I want to see.
@@rockandrolljew89 I responded to the wrong comment. Sorry my dude.
I’m a simple man. I see Carth in the title, I smash the like button. Please do a non-budget version of this deck!!!
This deck was fantastic! Really fun looking.
I do think the deck could use 1-2 maindeck wraths though, given that this deck doesn't have many creatures.
Snow lands + dead of winter?
In the decklist sidebar, Ashiok is shown as a green card in the sideboard, despite being hybrid UB. This might be a silly thing to point out, but I think that's an error.
Huh, that's really weird.
Do this again with non budget Planeswalkers! Ultimates are so rare
maybe splash into white for mox and kethis
@@ZackSavage mmm that would be cool
Stoneblade opponent clearly believed in the soul of the cards
Game 1 Match 1 that opponent DEFINITELY had multiple Prismatic Omen in their hand. They couldn't kill a Land creature or a high CMC planeswalker with those.
On the one hand, in glad that there's a downside to that card.
On the other hand, I wish it didn't take something this specific to create that scenario.
@@davidhansen5067 having a card over 4-5 cmc is specific????
Probably more likely to be prismatic ending I'd imagine.
@@edgypancreas1839 .... yeah that's what I meant
I loved the deck! Any possibilities of building a new brew for it ?
Would be interesting to see a couple games with the non budget version as well
Could be a fun stream deck.
I'm curious is this just a mana base upgrade? Or are there better PWs for the strat?
Seth,
a non budget version with 2 copies of Deploy the Gatewatch would be a blast ;)
Love from France bro, take care
The penny dreadful version is good fun glad you could try it out
I feel like spoiler week must cause so much extra work for Seth.
Spoiler week is super busy for sure, but I do love talking about new Magic cards, so I don't mind.
Great and entertaining brew! I've been loving Carth in EDH. Somehow I ultimate Ugin a lot with that deck which is fun :D
Now I gotta do a Carth Ponza Ramp deck with big fatty plainswalkers hhaha 😁 Thanks for getting my brain ideas-ing haha
44:44 (Against Phoenix) "Void Mirror, I don't think does anything."
It stops Gut Shots from being cast as a free spell, also the Rebound of Faithless Salvaging. That's not a ton, but both are 4-ofs in the Phoenix deck, and pretty important for casting early Lichs and Phoenixes. Not to mention making Demilich harder to cast itself. I think that's probably enough to warrant siding it in.
2 months later gonna request a non budget version of this deck. It's so cool and maybe even add doubling season? I'm building my own just need to pick my PWs. Thanks again 👍
This was a couple weeks ago, but this deck reminds me of nic fit in legacy. Just going over the top with big stuff. Kinda cool
36:27, "I do like that we can, if there's a Blood Sun out, we can Field of Ruin the Lotus Field."
This is incorrect. Presumably, the thought was that Blood Sun gets rid of the Hexproof ability on Lotus Field, but it *also* gets rid of Field of Ruin's ability to destroy lands, which means that you cannot destroy the Lotus Field with a Field of Ruin even if Blood Sun is on the battlefield.
Aaand approximately one minute later, we see exactly that scenario play out. This is why I should always finish watching the video before commenting, haha.
Yeah, I realized it eventually, after it was too late. Field of Ruin loses it's ability too, duh...
Huh... do we refer to ramp as "ramp" as in the phrase to "ramp it up to-" or is it in reference to RAMPant Growth?
The stone-blade opponent being an awful magic player.
Seth: Look what we are doing to modern.
I wonder if Oath of Nissa over the Farseek might be better.
Wooooooooo, Carth vid! Such a fun card
This is Awesome!
Now we want Teferi Tribal splash Carth!
Rampant growth to Sakura tribe elder? Idk if it’s legal but it seems like an upgrade if so
Carth would be sweet to see in Historic. Carth Brawl sounds like fun.
Nice Video! Which cards would you recommend To Switch if the Budget is 200$? Would Love to hear some tipps from the Community ❤
Carth seems like the epitome of "making them have it," just on a different axis than Dredge.
Are the GB Garruk Wolves bugged? On the screen @19:13, the loyalty doesn't increase...
They did, just that the overlay is in the way. When he untaps you can see it's on 3
Great deck, fun to watch. Costume changes between games was presumably unintentional but amusing. Perhaps a new gimmick...
Seth you did me dirty! 😉 One land one keep
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar has to the planes greatest strategist!
She can always make a new plan...
...t.
what about nissa oath in budget and non budget version? it works to get what we need at the moment
You have now idea how happy this makes me…
No how happy?
@@Robanhood99 What do you mean? We now have an idea.
@@aretwodeetoo1181 i could only guess thats why i was asking
Carth is literally the rock I play him in commander. He collects salty tears.
it's okay to take a break if you're tired of making magic content Seth :)
Wait, am I tired of making Magic content?
@@MTGGoldfish doesn't look like you do but you had more oopsies lately (don't take it in a bad way its usually small) so yeah
also people (usually) need small break to avoid actual burnout but hey up to you
37:40
Seth: I'm concerned about the amount of mana our opponent has.
opponent = 6 mana. Seth = 7 mana :p
We need the non-budget version!!!
Culling Ritual would be the perfect sideboard card for this deck.
Any reason not to run Sakura-Tribe Elder over Farseek?
Sakura-Tribe Elder is better than Rampant Growth. I was thinking I was saving a few dollars on the budget, but in reality there isn't that much of a price difference.
That first guy had to be a fan or something
Or he had some dead Prismatic Omens in hand...
Makes me sad to see Lilly in a budget deck… still remember paying $100 a piece for mine years ago :(
But this was a ton of fun, love me some walker decks!
Which Lili did you pay $100 for? That's not Lili-of the veil
im gonna go buy this to get back into modern
Where is my fifth match? I feel robbed!!
JK, the video was great.
Love this deck so much!
Ok phyrexia all will be one will make me want to create this deck for real
So how far along is the puppy cam? Are we getting "bear and friends tribal" for against the odds soon (puppies tribal)? Can we make sure bear had plenty of cables to chew on, I hear they are his favorite
What a fantastic deck
No Chain veil?
There was no reason for Mystic to be banned before MH2, now? Either Kaldra or Mystic has to go
5 drop Kaya is nuts. Just sayon
Eight and half tails Cleric Worship
4 Pious Kitsune
4 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
4 Mistveil Plains
4 Angel of Vitality
4 Apostle's Blessing
4 Speaker of the Heavens
4 Relic Vial
4 Revitalize
4 Cleric Class
4 Paladin Class
16 Plains
4 Voice of the Blessed
Kaya the inexorable, and Samut the tested.
carth is insane with Narset
I really like Carth with kiora
I still wanna make this for Commander.
I have a Carth EDH deck. Lots of fun and powerful in a non-cEDH way, but also a lot of solitaire, meeting track of what you've activated and what you haven't, and spending a lot of time sequencing your turn. "Ok, tick this one up, make a token. Tick this one down to draw cards, resolve Carth trigger, then draw the cards. Now everyone discard a card..." Lots of options and different lines. I'd only suggest it if you can usually take fast turns out if your playgroup is ok with that sort of thing.
i am now building this deck looks class
That Vraska win 🤣🤣🤣
Thematic consistency with LVD I see...
When are you guys gonna do Flesh and Blood content,?
Make a non budget Carth!!!!!!
Snarls are good seth
10% of the time they work ever time.
Haven't watched yet, just saw the title while in the middle of Colbert and had to come say, in response to the title question, "I have no idea, but I would VERY much like to find out."
No interplanar beacon for the lifegain
I considered it, ended up going with Field of Ruin in the colorless slot because of Tron, but the lifegain would be nice against burn and aggro.
@@MTGGoldfish I forgot about Urza’s saga and the tron lands 😂
Vraska golgari queen is a may….
Yeah it seemed odd. Maybe he thought he needed the life from it
I think he was trying to gain life in the burn match up.
Yeah, I was really worried about our life total because we were against burn.
I thought this would be a little more Grindy magic is too fast😮💨
If you want to scoop then please either just do it and move on, or keep playing and don’t moan about it. I don’t personally care if you scoop when the situation looks dire or if you stick it out to the bitter end, but the “not scooping because people will yell at me” refrain is getting really tired and sets up a “creator vs. audience” vibe that just isn’t healthy.
This is a pretty bad selection of matches. A bunch of mana-screwed opponents that never did anything? I feel like most decks could have won these matches.
Better lucky than good.
Non-Budget, please!!!!
You gotta stop playing the snarls Seth, most taplands with upside are better
But then what will I complain about?
Opponent: does literally nothing all the way to turn 5 in which he hardcasts a Batterskull
Seth: "Look at this 100 dollars deck! Look at what we're doing to the modern format!"
also Seth: proceeds to lose this game.
Carth Onassi > Carth the Lion
This deck is the Epitome of better to be lucky than good
The Snarls are always so bad, and you lose a lot of budget magic games because of them. I think sticking to man lands and pain lands is where you want to be.
$100 is not that low of a budget, and the deck is basically a control deck. Why is anyone surprised it's performing well? Control is inherently competitive by nature. Any deck that has as its primary focus to stop your opponent playing magic is going to be a pretty good deck. Carth has nothing to do with it. You run enough interaction to stop your opponent playing the game, you're gonna win more games, that's all there is to it.
I would be a lot more impressed with this deck's wins if he wasn't running boring cards like Binding the Old Gods, Maelstrom Pulse, Bloodchief's Thirst, etc. If you're running those cards then the viability of your deck increases considerably. It baffles me that he's able to look at this deck after playing it and say "Wow Carth is amazing", even if Carth IS amazing -- it's the removal doing all the real dirty work. ANY card or combo or strategy will shine if you back it with control. It doesn't matter if it's Happily Ever After or Shrines or Carth or Mill or Coalition Victory or whatever the hell else you want to win with. If you're running control in the deck you made it more viable and consistent and took away the challenge of winning with it, no matter how janky it might appear to be at the surface when you introduce it.
Disappointing. Not surprising, but very disappointing.
I literally don't get this reply.
Every control deck (if this is really control) needs a wincon. This one happens to be plainwalkers more or less. Why is that unimpressive? How would you have like to seen this shell built? You say control is "always good" and the purpose of this series is go make good decks.
Also $100 in a format that now averages probably $800-$1000 for a deck is dirt cheap. You can even buy a playset of some fastlands for $100 much less an entire deck.
Probably meant $100 for paper. It's $20 in tix
Join the Carth Superfriends Modern Discord! discord.gg/s52xwEef
wait what that’s a thing?
I think one of the reasons this deck beat the burn deck was the lack of shock and fetches. Losing an extra 2-3 life to get one land would have been bad against burn. Would love to see a less of a budget version, Seth. Solid deck and it was fun watching you get excited beating crazy expensive decks.
That's probably true. Budget mana for the win!