Golgari Carth Superfriends | Modern MTG Gameplay & Deck Tech | Much Abrew

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @Joebob31100
    @Joebob31100 3 года назад +26

    One thing I always appreciate about your videos is even when you're losing to unfair decks, you still keep up that winning attitude. You seemed so bummed losing to Urza's Saga, but you ended the match with a 'We'll get 'em next time.' That's good sportsmanship, and one of my favorite parts of your janky brews

  • @Antimonium
    @Antimonium 3 года назад +129

    “Carth is pretty good” he said destroying one land per turn with a one card combo

    • @bobbyb4998
      @bobbyb4998 3 года назад +26

      Carth makes said combo more consistent, as well as providing a sort of semi-protection in the form of card advantage.

    • @Fish-vs6jf
      @Fish-vs6jf 3 года назад +10

      @@bobbyb4998 Also semi-protection in the form of extra loyalty counters!

    • @Fyrefrye
      @Fyrefrye 3 года назад +14

      Also in that same match in game 3, he grabs a damping sphere turn 2 when a coating would have locked his opponent out of the game immediately. Why not go for it then?

    • @Gyarodos
      @Gyarodos 3 года назад

      True. Playing a bad composition of cards can still win you the game when individual cards like Karn are that strong

    • @Gyarodos
      @Gyarodos 3 года назад +1

      Honestly seth's deckbuilding looks awful.
      How can you keep a Starting hand with three lands and four mana value >=4 cards ...

  • @ZerFayt
    @ZerFayt 3 года назад +70

    This deck was basically "Karn the great creator is a busted magic card"-deck

    • @benzpinto
      @benzpinto 3 года назад

      that should be the title of d deck

  • @siddharthajesus
    @siddharthajesus 3 года назад +37

    seth: eldrazi tron doesn't even get tron that often! they just occasionally drunkenly stumble into it!
    opponent: draws nat tron three games in a row

    • @TheChibidono
      @TheChibidono 3 года назад +2

      Maybe opponent was reeeally drunk?

  • @spiritthalia3898
    @spiritthalia3898 3 года назад +22

    Maybe Grief could work, instead of goyf. You have enough value to pitch extra copies of planeswalkers or carths. Also, you can get to 4 mana turn 2 and hardcast it early

    • @aringrey
      @aringrey 3 года назад

      in theory yes, but Goyf is great at surviving the very early game. And as you saw in round 1 game 2, you don't always have dorks despite running 8. But might be worth testing

  • @theLogicblade
    @theLogicblade 3 года назад +55

    so what I've learned is that Carth turns all planeswalkers into Oko.

  • @TMidander
    @TMidander 3 года назад +55

    Feels like Seth needs to play more XCOM if he thinks missing an 81% shot is unreasonable >:)

    • @scottsbarbarossalogic3665
      @scottsbarbarossalogic3665 3 года назад +5

      That is a failure rate of 1 out of every 5

    • @swiftdragonrider
      @swiftdragonrider 3 года назад +5

      I am tillted every 51% I lose. I was favoured to hit and this means getting unlucky

    • @emilypearl3510
      @emilypearl3510 3 года назад +8

      It's acually more than 81% because opening hand plus cards he drew before casting it

    • @breadknot4590
      @breadknot4590 3 года назад

      It's actually more than 81% because opening hand plus draws plus he put sample size of 6 instead of 7 for the calculation

    • @TMidander
      @TMidander 3 года назад +1

      @@breadknot4590 maybe but he didn't know that :)

  • @sutfolsemaj
    @sutfolsemaj 3 года назад +9

    17:10 Karn and if they put everything on an inkmoth, you tutor pithing needle and win the game on the spot.

  • @JonaxII
    @JonaxII 3 года назад +23

    Draws Karn against multiple Inkmoths, doesn't slam it into Pithing Needle. Oooookay then.

    • @naomicoffman1315
      @naomicoffman1315 3 года назад +2

      (I'm sorry if you saw a weird comment from me just now - I'd somehow mixed up Pithing Needle and Null Rod...)

    • @BlackPrince1330
      @BlackPrince1330 3 года назад

      Inkmoth Nexus is just a Land, not an Artifact Land, so Karn wouldn't stop it from turning into a creature.

    • @naomicoffman1315
      @naomicoffman1315 3 года назад +6

      @@BlackPrince1330 No, but Pithing Needle would!

  • @zacharychanoi3218
    @zacharychanoi3218 3 года назад +23

    Why does this deck play Goyf? Why not just make it Jund so the 2-drop spot can be Wrenn and Six? The land recursion would work well with Nissa, and it’s more hits for Carth.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 3 года назад +5

      As gross as that sounds probably because goyfs good on defense but Wrenn could be better.

  • @3lijahali
    @3lijahali 3 года назад +9

    Urzas saga was definitely the hogaak of the set

  • @ryanquinn1257
    @ryanquinn1257 3 года назад +1

    Had a friend make a Carth Golgari superfriends Nissa EDH deck. Did quite well. Digging seven deep is pretty sweet.

  • @BentTimeAndSpace
    @BentTimeAndSpace 3 года назад

    Ok but seriously that first match made me so happy. Game 3 was firing on all cylinders and it’s such a good thing to see against Tron 😍

  • @Metawrecker
    @Metawrecker 3 года назад +1

    Yes please get back to this at some point

  • @Zaibech
    @Zaibech 3 года назад +18

    @25:03 Your math is a bit off. It should be population size of 49, giving about 88% chance of one hit.

    • @Graatand
      @Graatand 3 года назад +5

      Not only that. Carth looks at 7 cards, not 6. So the odds of wiffing are actually only about 7.83%

  • @123Broney
    @123Broney 3 года назад +7

    Running the new all forest land and not nissa, who shakes the world?

  • @tReNhEx100
    @tReNhEx100 3 года назад +4

    My personal opinion, Goyf is a wonderful card, just meh .. not in this deck.. sure it did a couple things like you're always wanting a Goyf to do, but I think you're neglecting Ugin, The ineffable which reduces 2 colorless for your colorless spells (i.e.- your wish-board and your main pw of this build.. Karn.) It could address your lack of enchantment removal, and give you creatures/ card draw to power up Grist ability to answer creatures all while putting a card in your hand.. I'd honestly consider swapping dreadhorde general for it and giving it a whirl.

  • @ElianaMCP
    @ElianaMCP 3 года назад +6

    I was wondering if there could be some kind of budget deck with a ton of War of the Spark uncommon Planeswalkers

  • @ozfan6
    @ozfan6 3 года назад +1

    According to hypergeometric calculator, 49 cards in deck and 7 looks via carth, you were 92 and change percent likely to hit a walker match 2. you had less than 8% to whiff.

  • @Ixostea
    @Ixostea 3 года назад +1

    I love the good old Rock vibes.

  • @TheSkinnzer
    @TheSkinnzer 3 года назад +2

    *Evil laugh* I love where We're at on turn 3! Ha ha!

  • @bennymarty6972
    @bennymarty6972 3 года назад +2

    Cool list! But as others did, I'll suggest a card you might have missed and that is the lifegain land from WotS, beacon something. I get that it doesn't work with Utopia Sprawl but still, it seems like it could buy valuable time :)

  •  3 года назад +7

    It could be good once the inevitable Bauble and Manamorphose banhammers drop.

    • @PieterSneep
      @PieterSneep 3 года назад +2

      I too am hoping we get to see these both go!

    • @aeolus7762
      @aeolus7762 3 года назад +1

      Bauble probably, Manamorphose at this point is like Bolt, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents 3 года назад +5

    I think if you try Abzan Super friends it might work out as well! Kaya the Inexorable would be pretty good include plus another world of removal!

    • @DinoMarcoccia
      @DinoMarcoccia 3 года назад

      I've tried Katya and she's insane (much better than 5MV Vraska). She exiles permanents and protects Carth. The 6MV BG Garruk is also good with Grist and 3MV Nissa making tokens.

  • @franksmith8298
    @franksmith8298 3 года назад +1

    Thumbs up for the 90 second intro alone.

  • @TrixerFerKids
    @TrixerFerKids 2 года назад

    9:20 "Opponent, trying to learn how to cast walking ballista, figures it out." Just the subtle little jibe 😆

  • @davidvonjohnston
    @davidvonjohnston 3 года назад +1

    Great list!

  • @zachgray4767
    @zachgray4767 3 года назад +12

    I'm a simple man. I hear "drunken stumbling nut-draw", I hit Like.

  • @mylifeasnemi3824
    @mylifeasnemi3824 3 года назад +2

    How is it that EVERY SINGLE TIME your 1st match up is against any sort of Tron deck?. Unbelieavable LOL.

  • @androkguz
    @androkguz 3 года назад +2

    I think that a 17:36 you were dead and the only thing that kept you alive was that you were indirectly bluffing a creature removal or the opponent didn't saw the line.
    But I don't think you realized that with scales and ozolith, opponent could have sac both inkmoth and one thopter to make the ravager a 8/8. Then sac the ravager to make the other thopter a 10/10. Then ozolith gets 8 counters and puts 9 on the thopter, making it a 19/19 flyer. Field of ruin wasn't saving you there

  • @CSDragon
    @CSDragon 3 года назад

    I feel like Fracturing Gust will become the next must-have sideboard card

  • @Silas_MN
    @Silas_MN 3 года назад +1

    I'm so torn about Urza's Saga. On one hand it seems really nutty, but on the other it makes cool decks like Hardened Scales actually competitive.

  • @zwolf4118
    @zwolf4118 3 года назад +1

    In works of a carth deathcloud build. I'll send the list via Twitter when Im done

  • @ISwearChris
    @ISwearChris 3 года назад +5

    No love for Death Cloud :'(

  • @Fubnin
    @Fubnin 3 года назад +3

    How is Karn liquimetal coating not banned in modern, it is repeatable land destruction. It can effectively be a one sided Armageddon.

    • @TheChibidono
      @TheChibidono 3 года назад

      At least they banned the mycosynth lattice so the combo is a bit weaker.

  • @grandogrando6505
    @grandogrando6505 3 года назад +3

    No vorinclex?

  • @kennethritacco6959
    @kennethritacco6959 3 года назад +2

    Carth + Ugin means Ugin ultimates the following turn after you play it…

  • @ynsryr
    @ynsryr 3 года назад +2

    really wish carth was in historic

  • @foolish137
    @foolish137 3 года назад

    31:40 big agreement on that

  • @Zephyri0n
    @Zephyri0n 3 года назад +1

    Match 2, game 1 - why didnt we vraska the ozolith?

  • @Etaripamai47
    @Etaripamai47 3 года назад +2

    Holy moly, I love this

  • @johnathanruple3335
    @johnathanruple3335 3 года назад +1

    SETH, Interplanar Beacon!? Gain some life off planeswalker casts?

    • @nathanielnizard2163
      @nathanielnizard2163 3 года назад +1

      its the drawback of arbor elf decks. It was good in standard because there was no turn 1 colored ramp there but he needs lots of green sources to be able to consistently cast his ramp turn 1 and he has the restriction of having 2 black symbol spells(damnation). Maybe the list can be adapted to use beacons, it is an overlooked card.

  • @sebastien.labrunie
    @sebastien.labrunie 2 года назад

    Join the Carth Superfriends Modern Discord! discord.gg/s52xwEef

  • @androcider
    @androcider 3 года назад +1

    5 color garth with oath of nissa want world tree

  • @benzpinto
    @benzpinto 3 года назад

    this deck can ddo explosive things thanks to utopia sprawl + arbor elf

  • @aarong2606
    @aarong2606 3 года назад

    21:05 should really thin with the fetch first

  • @lucaslahlum6331
    @lucaslahlum6331 3 года назад +3

    The population size shouldn't be 60 on the calculator because you had already started playing. It should have been lower. So I think the odds were closer to 90 percent.

  • @andrew69novak
    @andrew69novak 3 года назад +1

    Carth super friends.? It's almost like my deck; sisay super friends. Except I play domri anarch of bolas, and oath of ajani, to pump sisay (1 isamaru). And I play gideon ally of zendikar and dakkon, along with Nissa vital force. Although to fix my Mana; which I'm mostly in naya, I put in 1 city of brass. since I don't own a Mana confluence.

    • @DinoMarcoccia
      @DinoMarcoccia 3 года назад +1

      Oath of Nissa brainstorms and fixes mana

    • @tristanriach8546
      @tristanriach8546 3 года назад

      I also play a sisay superfriends deck with kethis, mox amber and a bunch of powerful walkers. Mostly abzan but with oath of nissa I have no trouble splashing UR for walkers. Very powerful, very fun and great grinding power with kethis replaying leg permanents from the gy.

  • @vayveil
    @vayveil 3 года назад +1

    Imagine complaining about saga when you have a planeswalker who infinite for one, shut down all opposing artifacts and kill a land each turn 🙃. Otherwise great video, the deck was really fun to watch !

    • @rpglover5955
      @rpglover5955 3 года назад +3

      The thing is, even control decks play it with only expedition map as their artifact to loop them over and over. it is just THAT kind of powerful (which begs the question of how bad playtesting it got)

    • @ms.sysbit5511
      @ms.sysbit5511 3 года назад

      @@rpglover5955 playtesters confirmed the current iteration of Urza’s Saga was not playtested.

  • @jamblock1
    @jamblock1 3 года назад

    Deck seems sweet even just a couple minutes into the match, but a question: any specific reason to run Liquimetal Coating instead of the new one that can also tap for mana?

    • @Bluedime777
      @Bluedime777 3 года назад +10

      Liquimetal Coating can target lands, letting it serve as land destruction when paired with KTGC's +1 ability.

    • @jamblock1
      @jamblock1 3 года назад

      @@Bluedime777 Oh wow, never read the nonland part of that card before, glad I checked before brewing something with it myself that doesn't work!

  • @MaxMckayful
    @MaxMckayful 3 года назад

    Quoth the Raven, Carth the Lion

  • @sangb1732
    @sangb1732 3 года назад +4

    Carth has the Waste Not problem. The card itself is busted and easily the best at what it can do and can win games. But without Carth the deck is nowhere near powerful

  • @ZerFayt
    @ZerFayt 3 года назад +2

    Just barely past the halfway mark of the video and Seth salt levels are very high :')

  • @jorgenorberto293
    @jorgenorberto293 3 года назад +1

    Well urza's saga is going to get the ban hammer. The only question is : when?

  • @ashtonbrockway9312
    @ashtonbrockway9312 3 года назад

    i woulda made planeswalkers cost 1 less somehow

  • @CyberNewType
    @CyberNewType 3 года назад +4

    HAD to be a better choice for the deck than Goyf. It did pretty much nothing every time it hit the board. It’s time has passed. Let it go….

    • @benzpinto
      @benzpinto 3 года назад +1

      people are so brainwashed to just stuff in goyf if the play green n need a low casting costs creature. : (

  • @crimsonb9084
    @crimsonb9084 3 года назад

    Karn + Coating sucks the fun out of these games

  • @HaeyHaey
    @HaeyHaey 3 года назад +6

    You complained a lot this episode. I am a huge fan but it can get very I guess annoying for lack of a better word.

  • @interfanboy1908
    @interfanboy1908 3 года назад +1

    This guy has the worst voice in magic, i have to switch videos cause i cant take it. Don't you have to have a good voice to be making videos like these?

    • @Fyrefrye
      @Fyrefrye 3 года назад +2

      And yet you commented on his video, helping him in the youtube algorithm! Thanks from all his fans. Now go away.

    • @DinoMarcoccia
      @DinoMarcoccia 3 года назад

      Dude, Saff's job is amazing, he's pretty good on what he does (gameplay narration, knowledge about the game, funny comments), this guy is awesome. If you wanna listen to a perfect deep charming voice, I think you are in the wrong place. Get lost.

    • @interfanboy1908
      @interfanboy1908 3 года назад

      @@Fyrefrye The content is great, his voice is awful. Just feedback like any other, no need to get defensive

    • @interfanboy1908
      @interfanboy1908 3 года назад

      @@DinoMarcoccia I will get lost. just figured I'd give the channel some feedback. didnt realize i struck a chord w you dino

    • @Fyrefrye
      @Fyrefrye 3 года назад +3

      @@interfanboy1908 direct condescending insults DOES NOT EQUAL "feedback like any other." Feedback is things like, "could you use these video filters that look better", "I hear audio clipping at timestamp ___", or "the cuts in your editing seem harsh or abrupt." Those are feedback. Telling Seth his voice is unprofessional and "the worst in magic" is INSULTING and uncalled for. Would you appreciate it if in a job interview the hiring manager across the desk from YOU told you "you're too ugly for this job"?
      I sincerely HOPE you have enough self esteem to see that as a problem.