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  • @WendigoNet
    @WendigoNet Месяц назад +530

    "Somehow, the announcers say the wrong card twice"
    Well, you wouldn't know anything about THAT now, would you, Seth?

    • @Oznej
      @Oznej Месяц назад +33

      Also Seth: pronouncing "escape" as "exscape" twice in one breath

    • @flaetsbnort
      @flaetsbnort Месяц назад +29

      Seth always says the right card, he just uses the wrong sounds.

    • @TheTexasDice
      @TheTexasDice Месяц назад +4

      Shadowsphere

    • @Rocknoob49
      @Rocknoob49 Месяц назад +4

      egg-scape egg-scape egg-scape

    • @Rocknoob49
      @Rocknoob49 Месяц назад +3

      eggs-cape eggs-cape eggs-cape

  • @Cruzer50143
    @Cruzer50143 Месяц назад +808

    What about the time when Seth made that seige rhino deck without any seige rhinos??

    • @mchild80
      @mchild80 Месяц назад +27

      Best deck ever 😂

    • @bobbyhanson346
      @bobbyhanson346 Месяц назад +11

      Oops, no rhinos!

    • @derekcline950
      @derekcline950 Месяц назад +83

      I vaguely remember this. It was one of his 30+ rhino decks. He spent so long on scryfall finding clone effects that he forgot the actual rhinos.

    • @deadded5793
      @deadded5793 Месяц назад

      It was 100 rhinos​@@derekcline950

    • @mchild80
      @mchild80 Месяц назад +3

      @@Cruzer50143 Seth will never live this down lol

  • @NexEstVox
    @NexEstVox Месяц назад +378

    Fail to Find tricks only work when the search requires you to find cards with a specific characteristic. Gifts finding less than 4 works because you can't prove to your opponent that there are fewer than 4 names among cards in your library. You can't fail to find with Demonic Tutor unless your library is empty.

    • @seandun7083
      @seandun7083 Месяц назад +18

      Yeah. That also means you can't do the double Entomb trick with Intuition since it doesn't have the "different names" restriction.

    • @ShakesZX
      @ShakesZX Месяц назад +5

      But unless you have 4 times the number of searched for cards or fewer cards, one of the searched cards has to be a basic land. Otherwise you are saying you have more than 4 copies of a non-basic-land card and have therefore presented an illegal deck, right?
      Edit: For example, say I have 9 cards in my deck and play Gifts Ungiven. I search for a creature and an artifact and “fail to find” the other two cards. What I am essentially saying is that my deck contains 4 copies of either the creature or artifact and 5 copies of the other.

    • @GeusGames
      @GeusGames Месяц назад +3

      @@ShakesZX For clarity, the text on Gifts was changed, it now reads as:
      "Search your library for up to four cards with different names and reveal them. Target opponent chooses two of those cards. Put the chosen cards into your graveyard and the rest into your hand. Then shuffle."
      Edit: but even if it did not, you could still do it, as seen in the video.

    • @ShakesZX
      @ShakesZX Месяц назад +5

      @ Sure, I get the errata change makes it legal now, but I’m specifically asking about when it was printed. The card was released in 2004, the ruling was made, per gatherer, in 2017.

    • @GeusGames
      @GeusGames Месяц назад +1

      @@ShakesZX The gatherer note is there for clarification to players, the rule was already that a long time before 2017.

  • @LoonerFlight
    @LoonerFlight Месяц назад +80

    The Tendrils story has real "forgot to add the Siege Rhinos" energy

  • @lesternomo6578
    @lesternomo6578 Месяц назад +193

    The arne play was so sick, never seen it before

    • @pw709
      @pw709 Месяц назад +39

      @@lesternomo6578 Probably the most impressive on the list, since it didn't rely on a misplay from the opp.

    • @bobbyhanson346
      @bobbyhanson346 Месяц назад +26

      @@pw709 Yep, that one and Frank Karsten's play were genius understanding of the rules of magic, not tricks in psychology.

    • @Sugarman96
      @Sugarman96 Месяц назад +2

      I vaguely remember something similar in Legacy to deal with Past in Flames, where the opponent cracked a fetch land and got rid of the card with the fetch on the stack

    • @BobertJoe
      @BobertJoe Месяц назад

      @@Sugarman96 Yeah it was a puzzle that made sounds rounds at one point

    • @dementievatz
      @dementievatz Месяц назад +1

      Karsten had a great article on CFB some years ago about different timing tricks you could use to your advantage. I can’t find it anymore though.

  • @ebonezra8073
    @ebonezra8073 Месяц назад +215

    On Arena, the "pen trick" is giving a single GG while your opponent is hovering over which creatures they want to attack with... ah, just Attack with All. Into your Settle.

    • @xx99Username99xx
      @xx99Username99xx Месяц назад +16

      I've found that a lot of times if I'm holding a combat trick on Arena (mostly in limited), I can bait the opponent into a bad block by dropping an "oops" after declaring attackers.

    • @ebonezra8073
      @ebonezra8073 Месяц назад +4

      @xx99Username99xx Oh yeah. The old "I misplayed - please have mercy on me! Psych!" Love it.

    • @georgiopapakonstantinou1580
      @georgiopapakonstantinou1580 Месяц назад +4

      I remember in the covid days, using "oops" after declaring attackers would make them think you made a mistake while declaring. Only to blow them up with combat tricks to kill blockers for for lethal

    • @jackl8025
      @jackl8025 Месяц назад +2

      Seth actually infamously did this a few years ago! It's here on RUclips, video called "against the odds top moments of 2021" at 11:30

    • @AvidusMauch
      @AvidusMauch Месяц назад +6

      I personally find this not smart but just scummy. It's the main reason why I disabled emotes on arena.

  • @BRboi777
    @BRboi777 Месяц назад +118

    That cling to dust play so that his opponent doesn’t get priority was a HUGE play. And that fail to find was genius.
    Wow I love when players use the rules to their favour to win the game.

    • @selkokieli843
      @selkokieli843 Месяц назад +2

      Technically they do get priority normally, but creatures can only be cast when there's no spells on the stack so arne gets to exile the ox!

    • @Snowjiggles
      @Snowjiggles Месяц назад

      I call this "cheating within the rules." Is it technically cheating? No, but it's definitely a way to game the system and it's always a fun and cool thing to try to do

  • @tylerduncanson2661
    @tylerduncanson2661 Месяц назад +107

    Small correction on “failing to find”: that only works if the tutor specifies some quality of the card(s) it finds. Cultivate specifies basic lands, Gifts Ungiven specifies unique names. A card like Demonic Tutor can’t “fail to find” because you can always demonstrate whether or not your deck contains cards.

    • @karatehh6966
      @karatehh6966 Месяц назад +14

      Easiest way i remember it, is if i have to reveal the card, i dont need to find it. Funky little rules.

    • @tyronium6950
      @tyronium6950 Месяц назад +5

      @@karatehh6966 This is a great way to remember most of the time, but it could lead you to illegally failing to find with cards like intuition that make you reveal the cards even though they're not of a certain quality.

    • @menderbug1
      @menderbug1 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@karatehh6966 better way to remember it is that if the card you're searching for has to have a certain qualifier (like basic land, creature, or in gifts case "different names") you can fail to find

    • @joelombardi4907
      @joelombardi4907 Месяц назад

      @@menderbug1 The "fail to find" thing is very confusing. What happens if a person casts a spell to search for a basic land, and this spell is the last card in their hand. They claim not to find any (for whatever reason), but then a few turns later plays a basic forest. Did they just lie to me?

    • @blackblood9095
      @blackblood9095 Месяц назад

      One specific additional caveat with Gifts is that you can’t find nothing - no matter what your deck is, you must have at least 1 card with a name in your deck, so you have to find 1.

  • @jyomi7506
    @jyomi7506 Месяц назад +15

    I remember a game of commander I was in and a player had cast Approach of the Second Sun, and already had it back in hand, just needed the mana. We had just had the board wiped of most creatures, couldn't just take him out, and only I was playing Blue (I'm pretty notorious for not running interaction lol...) so we were scrambling to find a way to stop him. The monored player had Chaos Warp and joked that he could just warp one of his lands. The Second Sun player had exactly 9 mana, so he'd still be able to cast it, but I looked the Red player dead in the eyes and said "It could matter, do it." So he did, I go to my turn, draw, pass the turn cause the game was seemingly over. The Second Sun is cast, and I throw down a Spell Pierce... If he had drawn an untapped land, he would have won, but he didn't... and was 1 mana short of paying the 2. Maybe nothing on these plays but was still one of the coolest moments for me XD They always respect the Spell Pierce now!

  • @JZHassan
    @JZHassan Месяц назад +107

    A friend of mine used to sometimes just say "Can I see your hand?" and sometimes his opponent would just hand it over. Then once he'd hand it back they'd ask why. "I just wanted to see it."

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 Месяц назад +63

      ​@thelunchlady8276 that just sounds like you were taking advantage of a vulnerable person cause you weren't good enough at the game to beat them fairly.

    • @littlemisspipebomb4723
      @littlemisspipebomb4723 Месяц назад +42

      ​@@thelunchlady8276 wow that's impressive. I didn't know you could bully a disabled person and still think you're the good guy afterwards

    • @jacobnordquist3448
      @jacobnordquist3448 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@thelunchlady8276it did sound pretty terrible, ngl

    • @artemi7
      @artemi7 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@thelunchlady8276it still sounds pretty terrible, so that's cheating on top of abusing the trust of someone you know is mentally less off then you.

  • @MrChrissyTCG
    @MrChrissyTCG Месяц назад +109

    The unsleeved cards at worlds 05 are mind blowing. Everyone used sleeves back than idk what's going on

    • @simonberest9302
      @simonberest9302 Месяц назад +69

      Apparently at the time they sleeves caused huge glare when recording so they were told to take off the sleeves during feature matches and top 8s.

    • @ZacharyDePue
      @ZacharyDePue Месяц назад +25

      Back in the day cameras were kind of buns. Sleeves would cause too much glare and make the game unwatchable unfortunately

    • @MrChrissyTCG
      @MrChrissyTCG Месяц назад

      That makes a ton of sense. ​@@simonberest9302

    • @rav3style
      @rav3style Месяц назад +4

      @@ZacharyDePue the fact in 2005 we were complaining about old cameras saying the exact same thing you just said, is so funny to me.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Месяц назад +14

      For a long time in the early years of the game it was actually illegal to play with sleeves.

  • @warrioraidan
    @warrioraidan Месяц назад +64

    That LSV play is the reason I make other people play out their combos. A lot of the time, people assume they have the game because they run these cards, but they never run through the lines. I've helped plenty of players improve the way they finish games.

    • @thoughtsonmtg2768
      @thoughtsonmtg2768 Месяц назад +3

      And too many players play Storm decks sloppy and f up if you make them play it through...

    • @FearOgre
      @FearOgre Месяц назад +1

      While that is usually a good idea, sometimes you have to take the clock into account.

    • @rustygray5058
      @rustygray5058 Месяц назад +2

      I've won 2 games where the opponent had the combo, but didn't actually know how to do it - their friend just told them if you get these 2 cards out at the same time it means you win

    • @andrewmoore7014
      @andrewmoore7014 Месяц назад

      When KCI was legal in Modern I'd make them play it out the first time because sometimes they didn't actually know how to. The specific nonsense you did with Scrap Trawler wasn't intuitive or easily understood and people would mess it up. I knew how it worked, but I sure wasn't going to help them if they didn't know.

  • @blankname1209
    @blankname1209 Месяц назад +68

    I love that you made this video. I remember a yall made video a few months ago with a similar premise, but many of examples weren’t actually “plays”, and I was sad bc the original premise seemed cooler. I’m glad you rectified that with this video.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Месяц назад +40

      Yeah, the comments from the first one made it clear people wanted a video that was more than just great top decks.

    • @pga128
      @pga128 Месяц назад +2

      @@MTGGoldfish eyyyy I made a comment about wanting to see 300 IQ plays... thanks Seth!

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos Месяц назад +93

    Ichikawa's golgari charm play was pretty awesome.

    • @pw709
      @pw709 Месяц назад +10

      Seth should have mentioned that he could exile another creature to eat the wurm, but chose not to. Cunningham should have seen that huge red flag.

    • @MaesterSaturn
      @MaesterSaturn Месяц назад +11

      ​@@pw709 That wouldn't have stopped the Selesnya Charm from exiling the Scavenging Ooze. As far as I can tell, he made the only play available to save his creature.

    • @pw709
      @pw709 Месяц назад

      ​​@brennanmack563 Ichikawa made a good play, but the bluff was transparent since he could have exiled another creature before damage.
      If that option wasn't available it would have been a more interesting, albeit less exciting play. He would have had to decide whether to use golgari charm to regenerate the ooze and walk into selesnya charm.
      As it stands, Cunningham misplayed given the information he had.
      I tend to prefer plays where both players play optimally but one is simply more creative in their thinking.

    • @MaesterSaturn
      @MaesterSaturn Месяц назад +7

      @@pw709 As I read the situation, if Ichikawa had exiled another creature to make scooze a 6/6, the Selesnya Charm still would have exiled the scooze, and all 5 trample damage from the wurm token would have gone through. Exiling additional creatures wouldn't have stopped the issue of the exile effect from Selesnya Charm.

    • @pw709
      @pw709 Месяц назад +3

      @@MaesterSaturn Okay, we're talking about different things. I am adopting Cunningham's perspective.
      Ichikawa obviously had the read on Selesnya Charm, so pumping to a 6/6 makes no sense. But Cunningham doesn't get blown out if he just let's the trade happen.

  • @marioschmidt1251
    @marioschmidt1251 Месяц назад +24

    I can highly recommend the game of CardsMarket, that Frank Karsten wins by splitting TWO Fact or Fictions 5 vs 0 cards of Toralf Severin. That plays was incredible. It's rare to see a 5:0 FoF being the play, but winning because doing it twice is just unbelievable. And it takes a player like Frank Karsten to pull this one off.

    • @finnpeterson4335
      @finnpeterson4335 Месяц назад +1

      That was the most big brained play I could ever think of lol. Just goes to show that playing to your outs is almost always the correct play.

    • @hansoskar1911
      @hansoskar1911 Месяц назад

      and all only for a perfectly timed topdeck.

    • @shwars576
      @shwars576 Месяц назад +1

      How did that make him win?

    • @hansoskar1911
      @hansoskar1911 Месяц назад

      @@shwars576 bc Blood Oath. Toffel took 0 the first time. Then Duressed on his turn and cast FOF eot. Frank drew Blood Oath that draw step and split 5-0 again.

    • @selkokieli843
      @selkokieli843 Месяц назад +2

      I've had an opponent split 5-0 for me and I took the 0. There was an It That Betrays among them and we both knew I wanted it in the graveyard to reanimate. Next turn I cast living death.
      A dream of that deck would be to have ITB on the field when resolving living death which makes for my favorite combo in magic. They sacrifice all of their creatures who then join your ranks 😊

  • @chrisglock1840
    @chrisglock1840 Месяц назад +9

    Startest Move i‘ve ever Seen was Liliana the last hope -2/-0 on own Geist of saint traft to get under a ensnaring Bridge for Zero to get the attaking 4/4 Angel Token

  • @SilverAlex92
    @SilverAlex92 Месяц назад +24

    Okay that golgari charm was dope. Also my respects to LSV, getting to top4 of a tournament by making your opponent concede through sheer aura because you forgot to add your wincon to the deck is the most awesome thing I've heard in a while xD

    • @karlolson1871
      @karlolson1871 Месяц назад +5

      I wish there was footage of this. In the interview he specifically states that he didn't say burning wish for tendrils "because that would be illegal". This seems suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if he did say that the first two rounds and then after realizing he had made the mistake also knew he needed to not say it in future rounds because it would be illegal. It's a great fakeout either way, but if he thought he had the spell in his sideboard for the first two rounds I would bet money he said he was using burning wish for it. If he didn't then he is brilliant, if he did he's still brilliant but also a liar and a cheat.

    • @shaungordon5104
      @shaungordon5104 Месяц назад +5

      It seems likely that one of his 2 opponents would have called him out for it in the aftermath of this had he said it. Either on the day, or sometime after since that fact became an important part of the story and his integrity in the situation. At the very least, because neither opponent seems to have come out of the woodwork and accused him, I'm pretty happy to give him the benefit of the doubt here
      But besides that conjecture, it's just the correct play to just say I am casting Wish and not announce what you're searching for until it resolves and it's LSV so completely plausible

  • @JabeRaddle
    @JabeRaddle Месяц назад +13

    Greatest play I ever made was in a game of commander. The biggest threat at the table had all kinds of nonsense on board including an It That Betrays. I had a Phage the Untouchable and a face down Chromeshell Crab. He attacked one of my opponents that only had one creature and I knew I couldn't win if that player lost the game. So I morphed my Crab and exchanged that one creature with Phage. The annihilator trigger resolved with my opponent sacrificing Phage, then the big threat guy had to put it on the battlefield under his control from his own It That Betrays and lost the game.

  • @slayeroffilth45
    @slayeroffilth45 Месяц назад +13

    One of my favorite plays of all time comes from the starcity games invitational Kennen Haas brings in helm of obedience to counter a player who brought in R.I.P. winning the game instantly using his opponents card to help him combo.

    • @thygrrr
      @thygrrr Месяц назад

      This is beautiful. My kinda sideboard jank, exactly!

  • @88Vrus88
    @88Vrus88 Месяц назад +28

    Frank Karsten is an living legend!

  • @mathijs1987j
    @mathijs1987j Месяц назад +27

    The Huschenbeth play was the most impressive, in my opinion.

    • @Aaackermann
      @Aaackermann Месяц назад

      Absolutely, since most were "just" bluff the opponent to do something.

    • @mathijs1987j
      @mathijs1987j Месяц назад +3

      @@Aaackermann True, most were pretty cheesy (not to say it wouldn't have worked on me). The Karsten one was nice too, but it was essentially solved in deckbuilding. Huschenbeth really did some clever thinking on the spot.

    • @Aaackermann
      @Aaackermann Месяц назад +2

      @@mathijs1987j Also the Golgari guy! His play was also great thinking!

    • @mathijs1987j
      @mathijs1987j Месяц назад

      @@Aaackermann True, that was a real play! I found it less impressive than Huschenbeth, but it was clever nonetheless.

  • @mpepp9
    @mpepp9 Месяц назад +15

    I much prefer these ones rather than the previous videos which was mostly just 'best topdecks'

  • @LeapingRat
    @LeapingRat Месяц назад +30

    i remember going to an old PTQ where someone was playing the Dragonstorm deck but had no dragons in the deck at all.
    They won by people forfeiting when dragonstorm resolved lol

    • @HomeCookinMTG
      @HomeCookinMTG Месяц назад +3

      No, it wasn’t dragon storm, it was ANT. It was LSV, he forgot to put tendrils of agony in his sideboard to wish for, he made it to the top 8 by saying “burning wish, storm count 9” or something along those lines and his opponents scooped.

    • @electra_
      @electra_ Месяц назад +25

      @@HomeCookinMTG Reading the comment explains the comment

    • @alexanderkraken7920
      @alexanderkraken7920 Месяц назад

      @@electra_ and reading the joke explains the joke

    • @chemicals8582
      @chemicals8582 Месяц назад +4

      I saw one guy win without the dragons, either. You were supposed to get up to 4 storm and search for Bogardan Hellkites. His opponents would ask to see his hand, because Dragonstorm couldn't put dragons from hand into play, so you could theoretically survive the turn if they couldn't put a hellkite directly from library into play.
      Not having the dragons in your deck was a good way to never have them stuck in your hand.

  • @simonmcleish2002
    @simonmcleish2002 29 дней назад +1

    I was playing tooth and nail in a tournament.
    Round 3 playing against blue white control.
    G1 he cast bribery, steals my Sundering titan and kills me with it. Gg.
    G2 he cast bribery, search my library and can't find anything. Confused, I turned my sideboard over to reveal I removed ALL of my combo creatures.
    He took a Sakura Tribe Elder and sacked for a land.
    Several turns later I cast Rude Awakening, attacked, for lethal.
    Ended drawing ran out of time for G3.

  • @AntonioCarlos-um5kn
    @AntonioCarlos-um5kn Месяц назад +3

    Off the top of my head, Antoine Ruel vs Kenji Tsumura in PT Los Angeles, when Ruel baits Tsumura in playing a Psychatog into his Force Spike. He builds the bait from turn 1 by playing a tapped land and then turn 2 by not protecting his Duress.
    Another one that comes to mind is Makihito Mihara winning Worlds with Dragonstorm combo by very smartly not going full storm vs control matches. He'd build up mana, make a first dragonstorm for 2 or 3, give 10-12 damage to opp. Opp taps out to wrath the board, and Mihara just storms again ftw.

  • @eristoast3133
    @eristoast3133 Месяц назад +9

    A little play I was really proud of in Commander once was this: I was playing otters prowess/storm with Ral Crackling Wit on the battlefield. I was anticipating removal once he reached 10 loyalty, so once he got to 9 I cast Siege Smash to prevent anyone else from getting priority, got the last counter I needed as a ral trigger, and with priority passed back to me I could get the storm emblem!
    It wasn't an especially clever play compared to the pros here but I was very proud to have seen it.

  • @caseydorsey4075
    @caseydorsey4075 Месяц назад

    A little bit of correction at the 3:50-3:53 mark. You don't always have the option to "fail to find" you can only fail to find if there is a defined characteristic in the card(s) you're looking for. If gifts allowed you to search for any 4 cards, and the deck has at least 4 cards in it, you can't fail to find.
    Since gifts outlines you have to search for 4 cards with different names, there exists the possibility that all that is left in the library is say "Islands" the player is allowed to search for a fewer number of cards in this instance rather than concede information from the hidden zone to their opponent.

    • @sfcpudding
      @sfcpudding 10 дней назад

      Because of the way the rule is worded, you can even make the clearly 'impossible' play of finding 0 cards with gifts, even with the original wording. The rule simply states that if it asks for a characteristic, you can fail to find some or all of those cards, even if they're present.
      701.19b If a player is searching a hidden zone for cards with a stated quality, such as a card with a certain card type or color, that player isn’t required to find some or all of those cards even if they’re present in that zone

  • @DiogoVKersting
    @DiogoVKersting Месяц назад +3

    One 300 IQ play I saw in Worlds was using Turn Inside Out on a opponent's creature that is blocking Heartfire Hero, with the objective of making Heartfire Hero die in combat, and then hitting the opponent for lethal.

  • @54SCV8
    @54SCV8 Месяц назад +1

    During SCG Open Nashville, I waited for first strike damage to resolve before casting Faith's Shield on my own basic land. The first strike damage took me below the Fateful Hour threshold, giving me CoP. I won next turn on the swing back.

  • @iampepheb
    @iampepheb Месяц назад +4

    Correction for 13:25 : Yuuki Ichikawa won that game but ultimately lost the match to Jackson Cunningham.

    • @averymeyer2802
      @averymeyer2802 Месяц назад +1

      how did I have to go this far to find this comment I was losing my mind

  • @christopherlapp4553
    @christopherlapp4553 Месяц назад +2

    I actually did the fail to find in a tournament before Frank. I cast Bribery in a standard tournament and his only creature was Nether Spirit that he could bounce so I left it in his deck.

  • @jacobarto1946
    @jacobarto1946 Месяц назад

    Adding to Estratti's play the circumstance that he had won game 1 with "break the day" (1w instant +1/+1 to all team), so Martell knew about it and that's the information Sam exploits with his masterful play, which I think is beyond other (also great) plays in this vid: they played masterfully the cards they had in hand, Sam played with a card he didn't have. Great vid! Keep it up!

  • @patrickevanroach7498
    @patrickevanroach7498 Месяц назад +4

    Love these types of videos seth, theyre really great!

  • @cannonspectacle5195
    @cannonspectacle5195 Месяц назад +2

    Similar to the Golgari/Selesnya charm play, there was a Pro Tour (Dragons of Tarkir I think?) where, in the feature match for one of the Swiss rounds, one player flipped up Den Protector, returning Bile Blight to their hand, and then cast it on their own Dragonlord Dromoka to protect it from an opposing Elspeth, Sun's Champion minus. I can't remember who the players were but it was a pretty big brain play.

  • @erenjaegerbomb8653
    @erenjaegerbomb8653 23 дня назад

    Hey, nice one Seth. I watched your other video like this, but it had a lot more rng and I read (and added =P) a few comments saying I'd love to see big brain plays more. Really happy to see this content and wanna say thanks if you responded to those with this. Cool thing to do, and fun video. I love that "Frank" was in the flavour for Karsten's cards. The man is a monster though I suppose

  • @chemicals8582
    @chemicals8582 Месяц назад +2

    The best play I ever made was during Kamigawa-Ravnica standard. I was playing Ghazi Glare and my opponent was playing a Greater Gift style deck, based on recurring Kamigawa dragons for the death triggers over and over. For this story it's important to note that the legend rule was a bit different then: If two or more legendary permanents with the same name were on the battlefield at the same time, they all went to graveyard. Also I ran a bit of a different Glare list: I used Chord of Calling instead of Congregate at Dawn, and a bunch of utility guys, like one spirit that can kill an enchantment, that kind of stuff.
    Anyways, the game got to the point where I had Glare and a couple of saprolings, and my opponent has a Yosei, which was being locked down by the Glare. So I was chipping for a couple points every turn. He didn't have Greater Good. Then this happened:
    "I cast another Yosei." This would have caused both Yoseis to die, tapping 10 of my permanents and skipping 2 untap steps. Basically a time stretch, and he would have won the game easily.
    "In response I cast Chord of Calling for 2." He let it resolve, as a random bear wasn't going to do anything.
    So I search out the 1-of Samurai of the Pale Curtain in my deck and put it into play. Yosei and his twin get exiled with no death triggers.

  • @kulminatoren
    @kulminatoren Месяц назад +5

    I was playing a standard tournament in Kaladesh times, I was on mardu veichles and my opponent was on temur Marvel. I got him down to 6 life before he wiped my board and a turn later could spin and he found an ulamog who would make quick work of my life total. I did win however because I hade two copies of Unlicensed Disintegration and with ulamog being indestructable was able to burn him out with them!

  • @ServbotNumba40
    @ServbotNumba40 Месяц назад +1

    I still think LSVs 300 iq play is when he caused MoDo to crash when he had 3 O-rings target themselves as they were the only legal targets. Seeing MoDo try to rebuild the game multiple times was amazing.

  • @juanmcdougal3158
    @juanmcdougal3158 Месяц назад +1

    recently i won a foundations prerelease with hidetsugus second rite winning half my matches. not saying it’s as cool as these or as big brain as i just did what the card said but it felt big brain at the time hahaha

  • @TwistedCyborg
    @TwistedCyborg Месяц назад +4

    My biggest brain play was in a Jund mirror, very similar to the "create a stack for himself" one. I had Tarmogoyf in play and a bolt in had. Opponent had nothing in play. They cast Bloodbraid Elf. Cascade resolves and they reveal a Lilliana of the Veil. I let LOTV resolve but with BBE still on the stack I bolt the LOTV so they can't answer my Tarmogoyf and I ride the goyf to victory.

  • @MrZeyami
    @MrZeyami Месяц назад +1

    Important note on fail to find: the rule requires the card search to be qualified. It works because the cards must have different names in the case of gifts ungiven.

  • @leonardoross8133
    @leonardoross8133 Месяц назад +3

    I loved the best plays video, but this is kind of what i was expecting from it

  • @AdamKeeton
    @AdamKeeton Месяц назад +4

    Is LSV forgetting Tendrils the same as, oh, let's say another person forgetting to put Rhinos in their 200 Rhinos deck?

  • @anthonymentalewicz5143
    @anthonymentalewicz5143 Месяц назад +4

    Karstens play is why I love that card. Gifts ungiven is my 3rd favorite card, number 2 is fevered visions (won my first gameday, and had the most interesting run - game before the finals, i beat a lili last hope and jace emblem in back to back games - sphinx of the final word was the only creature) number 1 is thoughtseize - theros print foil (its the set where i started - love mono black devotion more than I should).

    • @Yaggayaggayeet
      @Yaggayaggayeet Месяц назад +1

      Wed be magic buddies fs my fave card is also theros thoughtseize due to me starting in that era and i used to fuck ppl up with that fevered visions mill deck

    • @anthonymentalewicz5143
      @anthonymentalewicz5143 Месяц назад

      @Yaggayaggayeet i played the bounce everything spell slinger version of fevered visions... I love the reverse "rack" it's such a fun card.

  • @funkydiscogod
    @funkydiscogod Месяц назад +14

    I once got an opponent so used to getting his spells countered that he threw the card into his graveyard before he asked
    "Wait...how much was that Broken Ambitions for?"
    "It was for 0. You declined to pay the 0. Leave it in the graveyard."

    • @collinbeal
      @collinbeal Месяц назад +2

      Lol social conditioning. I like it.

  • @tzvirubin9708
    @tzvirubin9708 Месяц назад +1

    craziest play i ever made was in a game of edh. my commander is squee the immortal and i have underworld breach in play, and phyrexian altar in play, and jeska's will and two other cards in my graveyard. i escaped jeska's will, chose both modes, then sacrificed squee to help pay the mana cost, then exiled squee from my graveyard to help the escape cost. and still got both modes.

  • @trecoulson1
    @trecoulson1 Месяц назад +5

    I actually did something similar to LSV with no win in the deck. I was at a GP playing ad nauseum in modern in the mirror. For round 3 i had taken out my lightning storm, giving me only a lab man win. My opponent started going off for his win, and I'm the heat of the moment i had forgotten i had taken my instant win out and went for it as well. There was a counter war over my play which i won and my opponent then scooped as he assumed i would then go on to win, when actually i couldn't

  • @WashtubScout
    @WashtubScout Месяц назад +5

    I watched the Ichikawa match live, it was the best match of the tournament. Sphinx's Rev was fun but ugh what a deck to watch the mirror for...
    I counter your elixir of immortality, I counter your counter, resolves.
    We will fight this fight again when u have 4 counters...

  • @fdterritory
    @fdterritory Месяц назад +8

    There has to be a reason why you use LSV's State-Trooper-On-A-Bender picture every time you get the opportunity.

  • @Thyeggman
    @Thyeggman Месяц назад

    I am so glad the Ichikawa v Cunningham match made it in here, it's a rather inconspicuous play in the history of pro magic but it's one of my absolute favorites

  • @tomi-of6pf
    @tomi-of6pf Месяц назад

    One of your best vids ever, great job

  • @tochoXK3
    @tochoXK3 Месяц назад +1

    Mulligan to 5, play Cavern of Souls, name Sliver, concede in response to Kozileks Inquisition.
    They weren't playing Sliver...

  • @jongibson4766
    @jongibson4766 Месяц назад +1

    The LSV story about Tendrils is the sole reason so many Magic players waste their time playing unwinnable games. People would be better off if they forgot that one

  • @JSeriously
    @JSeriously 26 дней назад

    The Prosak one was particularly interesting, because Sam knew the cards he had in his hand.

  • @ajdugan8142
    @ajdugan8142 Месяц назад +7

    Mine was more luck based than 300iq, but i was playing vintage cube at my lgs. I had an agathas soul cauldron with an urza lord high artificer exiled with it and 2 creatures with +1/+1 counters on them. I also had a one ring with enough counters on it to kill me on my upkeep. Opponent finishes his turn, passes to me. On my upkeep with the ring trigger i remember that i have a tishanas tidebinder in my deck that could counter the trigger. I then tap ring to draw a few cards, didnt find it. I then have enough mana to spin urza twice in an attempt to find it. First time, miss. Second time, hit it! I then had just enough power on the board to attack my opponent, exile the walking ballista in his graveyard with soul cauldron and ping him for the win.

    • @ADudeWhoExperiences1393
      @ADudeWhoExperiences1393 Месяц назад

      Hella sweet win!

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 Месяц назад

      This is awesome and all, but it feels wrong for the oldest card you listed to be less than 5 years old in a vintage game(outside of your opponent's WB). Lol

    • @ajdugan8142
      @ajdugan8142 Месяц назад +1

      @casteanpreswyn7528 I don't disagree. Power creep has became a real thing. Also It was just sweet to pull off a save like this

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 Месяц назад

      @@ajdugan8142 yeah, it just stood out as weird to me, that's all.

    • @dementievatz
      @dementievatz Месяц назад

      That’s a good one! Reminds me of a luck play I made in VC to win with Echo/Hullbreacher. I was super dead the next turn if I didn’t do something. I had HB on board, Echo of Eons in hand, and 5 mana in play, hoping to draw a land to cast it. Instead I draw a blank. But I also have Mind Twist in hand. So I Mind Twist myself for 1 - with a 1/4 chance of hitting Echo - and I discard Echo, cast it for 2U with flashback, and go on to win. 🎉

  • @keithknetge6908
    @keithknetge6908 Месяц назад +1

    I once turned Erika's chariot into a token and kept making copies of its self each time creating a chariot and 2 2/2s. For each one attacking

  • @christianbarrett3040
    @christianbarrett3040 Месяц назад +9

    My favorite recent big brain play was using an unable to scream on an opponents Patched Plaything that was cast from hand so it had two -1/-1 counters. The Patched Plaything became a 0/0 thanks to the -1/-1 counters and died to state based action.

    • @danpearman270
      @danpearman270 Месяц назад

      I'd love to claim the same thing as a big brain play - problem is, I did it by accident, lol - I completely forgot about the counters and just needed to get the double strike out of the way - I think I was more surprised than my opponent...

    • @christianbarrett3040
      @christianbarrett3040 Месяц назад +2

      @@danpearman270 I was a little less kind, I noticed the line, said "I am going to do a magic trick", and then got the players next to us to watch too. There was stunned silent laughter at the ridiculousness of it.

    • @VoidArchon
      @VoidArchon Месяц назад

      What about having your Patched Plaything die with a Reluctant Role Model om the battlefield so you can move its counters to an opponent's creature?

    • @christianbarrett3040
      @christianbarrett3040 Месяц назад

      @@VoidArchon cute, but never had a chance to do that. Reluctant role model gets killed almost instantly;y whenever I play it in draft.

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 Месяц назад +11

    That’s why you always make your opponent show the win.

    • @ManaPirate
      @ManaPirate Месяц назад +3

      @@alphonse2234 Which is exactly why everyone hated eggs 🤣

  • @spencerhoselton3100
    @spencerhoselton3100 Месяц назад +12

    18:46 The way he’s saying Arne is killing me, for those wondering it’s pronounced “Ar-nuh”

    • @chrismarlow9585
      @chrismarlow9585 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, it's a shame they know how to pronounce Javier properly but not Arne

    • @_claymore
      @_claymore Месяц назад +2

      At least the casters say it correctly

    • @davidhansen5067
      @davidhansen5067 Месяц назад +3

      I'm Seth's defence, the name is used and pronounced the way Seth pronounces it in the USA, so he probably didn't *think* to look it up because it seemed obvious.

    • @chrismarlow9585
      @chrismarlow9585 Месяц назад +2

      @@_claymore Oh I didn't rewind to check. I thought the original comment was about the commentators. At this point I just assume Seth mispronounces everything and we get to enjoy the entertainment knowing he means no offence

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Месяц назад +3

      Sorry, I just used the US pronunciation. I didn't realize it was pronounced differently in other places.

  • @Sidenonra
    @Sidenonra Месяц назад

    I love how ProTour RTR was a standard PT where RTR had been out of print for years before it happened.

  • @fredt1983
    @fredt1983 Месяц назад +9

    Half of these would be Crim tricks "I never said I DIDN'T have a wrath, just that I couldn't cast one." type of stuff though Seth! :p

  • @AaronRotenberg
    @AaronRotenberg Месяц назад +3

    BoshNRoll just had a video today where at one point he threw Broadside Bombardiers at itself to fizzle a lifelink block and push lethal.

    • @zym6687
      @zym6687 Месяц назад

      Bombadiers says another creature or artifact so can't do that. I looked it up he throws a chrome mox at the bombardiers.

  • @johnat856
    @johnat856 Месяц назад +1

    My other half, playing a deck made from "junk" cards (didn't want to spend money on new ones) vs a vintage Caw Blade deck. She got a god hand. Her turn one and on the play: swamp, dark rit, dark rit, hymn to tourach, hymn to tourach. Lol

  • @monopoman
    @monopoman Месяц назад

    One thing Seth doesn't really talk about is true tutors like Demonic you can't fail to find, Gifts says 4 cards with different names, what if your library only has 3 cards with different names later.

  • @Neon-chan2015
    @Neon-chan2015 Месяц назад

    I like how LSV later stated that all the token/Adanto stuff was just show for the camera because he knew Dezani would attack as it is the right play and Dezani is too good a player to not attack there knowing his decklist only had a single copy of Settle.
    So he knew it would happen and had enough foresight to add a little show for the viewers and commentators to make it more exiting. Which probably is even more brain power than just baiting successfully

  • @martinrosschou
    @martinrosschou Месяц назад +2

    "The most confident spell pierce"; where (I forget who) counters with a spell pierce so confidently, that his opponent doesn't just pay the 2 mana, which he has available.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Месяц назад +1

      Ha, yeah. I thought about including that one, but I think it was mostly just the opponent punting.

    • @martinrosschou
      @martinrosschou Месяц назад

      @@MTGGoldfish Yeah I guess. I thought it was a bit like the pen trick, just convince the opponent that the play is good, here using fast movement to look confident hehe

  • @12triproberts
    @12triproberts 4 дня назад

    A) LSV is the personification of not committing to a mistake, rather than course correcting at the risk of exposing your goof. B) I am convinced he's doing a Benjamin Button and aging in reverse.

  • @Skylersuzy
    @Skylersuzy Месяц назад

    Lsv is my favorite big brain player. I liked his "Seasons Past" top 8 pro tour Deck he ran years ago and been watching him cube ever since. Great content Seth

  • @SirLeoR_
    @SirLeoR_ Месяц назад

    Now this is a video with some good plays, thanks for making it.

  • @wolfe2424
    @wolfe2424 26 дней назад

    My biggest brain play was on MTGA against an opponent with Polyraptor. After they accumulated over 10 raptors, they just.. passed the turn. I passed the turn right back; I figured they wanted to see how many raptors they could get on the field (and so did I). Two or three turns later, his raptor count was over 500 and it took so long for the stack animations to play that his turn timed out and he exploded as soon as the last animation finished.

  • @simonr6268
    @simonr6268 Месяц назад +1

    Addendum to the fail to find rule: You can only fail to find, when the card has a certain qualifier.
    So Demonic Tutor always has to find a card, as long you have cards in your library.
    With Gifts old wording you would at least have to find one card, since a single card always satisfies it's qualifier.

    • @sfcpudding
      @sfcpudding 10 дней назад

      This is incorrect. The rule does not care whether you have cards that satisfy the given characteristic, no matter how obvious it is. It simply states that if there is a characteristic, you're allowed to fail to find. Even with the original wording of Gifts, you were absolutely allowed to find 0 cards--though there would have been very little reason to ever do so.
      701.19b If a player is searching a hidden zone for cards with a stated quality, such as a card with a certain card type or color, that player isn’t required to find some or all of those cards even if they’re present in that zone

  • @Kogzedri
    @Kogzedri Месяц назад

    When Splinter Twin was the deck to beat in Modern, I would routinely make the Twin player fight over their Twin resolving just to get them with Rakdos Charm on the swing.

  • @residentgrey
    @residentgrey Месяц назад

    I have a fun play I did in YGO that I still like. I used Mystic Box on Scapeghost, destroying a monster on the opponents field and sending Scapeghost to one of the opponent's main monster zones in attack position. I have Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon also on field, which does double battle damage over monsters. Scapechost is 0 ATK and OEPD is 2500 ATK. I have Rain Bozu as the high scale, so with enough cards in the extra deck and through other effects I got to buff OEPD to 3200, delivering a 6400 ATK which results in a one-shot lethal swing. I originally did this play using Steel Calvary of Dinon leveraging its STAT-HALVING TO SELF, making it a 400 ATK body to EASILY swing over. I buffed OEPD over 4000 and even over 6000 with some other combos, making for a lethal play in the TCG/OCG format easily too.

  • @vidarthorsby2052
    @vidarthorsby2052 Месяц назад

    That golgari charm play is INSANE!

  • @FantasiaWHT
    @FantasiaWHT Месяц назад

    Much more entertaining than 3 100 IQ magic plays

  • @voltcorp
    @voltcorp Месяц назад +1

    there's a great video from JudgingFTW about information and cheating, and how the rules are set in a certain way on purpose to allow bluffing to be part of the game. this video is a great set of examples of why Magic is a richer game for it.

  • @peterbruno657
    @peterbruno657 Месяц назад

    When LSV grabbed the token to bluff activating his land it looked like his opponent already decided to attack. His creatures were tapped.

  • @hlaw2830
    @hlaw2830 Месяц назад +1

    One time my buddy tried to Chaos Orb his own Rector and missed. -300

  • @joseph1150
    @joseph1150 Месяц назад

    I remember the guy playing prosperity bloom that exiled his last remaining drain life to keep the combo going and asked his opponent if he really wanted him to go through the motions of comboing off or not.

  • @joshuajohnston4825
    @joshuajohnston4825 Месяц назад +1

    My best magic play? I was playing Gitrog in EDH and I had a crucible of worlds in my hand as well as Thespian Stage + Dark Depths on the field. I knew my opponent had a path to exile in hand so I had been holding off on using the stage to copy depths. I noticed that I had 8 mana available and because I had top decked a crucible of worlds, I activated the combo to bait out the path to exile. I then played the crucible and using the second land play from gitrog, I replayed the stage and depths to do the combo again.

  • @damiansilvey709
    @damiansilvey709 Месяц назад

    I run a Captain Sisay deck in commander (Selesnya, not WUBRG) and I realized that after a while, once I would Tutor for an Ashaya my friends would just concede since I would usually have the win 2 seconds after. Fast forward to me playing at our LGS with one of my friends in the pod and I don't have enough mana on board to actually use my combo, but I decide to tutor for Ashaya anyway just to have it in my hand. Immediately, my friend concedes and starts convincing the other players that I obviously have the win and they need to just scoop so we can play another one. One by one they start to scoop, and I started to ask them if they were sure they wanted to, to which they all responded by asking me how the combo works and then agreeing without checking my mana. I felt pretty bad after the game was over so as we were tallying our points, I explained to them that I didn't actually have the mana for any of it and it was purely a safety tutor and if they would've looked at the board they would've seen I didn't have the mana for the win. Luckily we were all able to laugh about it

  • @abbiemcdaniels3122
    @abbiemcdaniels3122 17 дней назад

    My biggest brain play:
    (In commander, with my commander Ob Nixilis Captive Kingpin on board)
    Cast wheel of fortune
    Hold priority flash in Orcish Bowmasters
    Everyone wheels and opps draw a total of 21 cards
    Aim 21 damage from Bowmasters at one opponent
    Creates a 21/21 orc army
    Puts 21 +1 counters on Ob Nix
    Exiles 21 cards from my library I can play until next turn, two being All Will Be One and Kumano faces Kakkazan
    Go to combat and hit second opponent for lethal commander damage
    Pass turn with one opponent alive, unable to kill Ob Nix
    Next turn cast All Will Be One then Kumano, going infinite and winning

  • @Ambushw23
    @Ambushw23 Месяц назад +1

    Javi was on the wrong side of that drown in loch stack but I think he’s okay with his career especially after this weekend wins player of the year in the worlds semis after being down 0-2 and comes back off a crazy game 4 with a desperation doomsday excoriator to not die to his 3 annex’s

  • @BrankoSkrobica-fk2fs
    @BrankoSkrobica-fk2fs Месяц назад

    Love this even more than the awesome decks you make

  • @Thecalebpoe
    @Thecalebpoe Месяц назад +1

    Got someone with a Cephalid Coliseum while they had no cards in library and an Emurakyl reshuffle trigger on the stack. Not that big brain but pretty sweet I thought..

  • @TehMegaNoobZor
    @TehMegaNoobZor Месяц назад

    One of my favourite bluff plays is in legacy I play death and taxes. And after resolving stone forge mystic on turn 2, I tank for a short moment and then say "sorry, just not sure if i want kaldra or jitte here" when i already have the kaldra in hand. I get the jitte and the opp usually doesnt kill the sfm and I get to put my mean 5/5 into play

  • @zackshoots
    @zackshoots Месяц назад

    The Ad Nauseum one reminds me of a modern match I won against old Ad Naus that used Lightning Storm as its main win con. I was up 1-0, and game 2, I played a Pithing Needle naming lightning storm on the first turn and won the match. It was pretty funny.

  • @Infernoblade1010
    @Infernoblade1010 Месяц назад

    Love LSV, the king of mind games!

  • @torasin13
    @torasin13 13 дней назад

    The 2nd LSV story is the reason I always ask my opponent to show me the kill in situations like this... when I was a new player I worked at a card shop and the first FNM I worked at was won buy a guy playing Dragonstorm but he was showing me after the tournament how he had 0 dragons in his deck and instead played more consistency cards to get the storm and man and then cast the dragonstorm with a 5 or 6 storm count. People would just concede to it. From that day on in every game I always asked to see the win but also always show my opponents.

  • @thygrrr
    @thygrrr Месяц назад +1

    23:30 Is it a 300 IQ play, or a 30 IQ play? :D

  • @necrochan7620
    @necrochan7620 Месяц назад

    Arne's Cling to Dust stack play was INSAAAANEEEE 😱

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, I'm 99% sure I would have missed that line.

  • @termsconditions1513
    @termsconditions1513 Месяц назад

    Bruh calls Yosei Yoshi, and it hurts my little dragon loving soul

  • @dyneofnaut
    @dyneofnaut Месяц назад

    I like the subplot of LSV commenting in 2014 about the same trick he pulled in 2012.

  • @aj7010
    @aj7010 Месяц назад +1

    smashing like great video

  • @GodammitNappa
    @GodammitNappa Месяц назад

    The lack of sleeves. I forgot thos part of magic history and its wild to see the money

  • @54SCV8
    @54SCV8 Месяц назад

    One of the greatest plays I pulled off was my opponent playing a Surgical Extraction, I responded with my own Surgical Extraction. Then, FtF in my hand or deck, after it resolved, I slammed the same card to complete my combo. 😮

  • @nateruoto
    @nateruoto Месяц назад +1

    Well I played mono blue devotion with master of waves . There was a hydra that had pro blue. Thasa was in the deck . Also was a card called rapid hybridization which destroyed a creature and gave its controller a 3/3 green frog lizard. My opponent made the hydra a 3/3. I couldn’t target the hydra but I could target my indestructible thasa and then block the hydra with the 3/3 and boy did I feel so cool when I did.

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060 Месяц назад

    To be fair, if he'd had another infernal tutor, he's dead to storm anyway, so the exile spell isn't necessarily a bad play. It just looks that way with what happened to play out.

  • @artemi7
    @artemi7 Месяц назад

    My biggest brain play was in an Emperor game, where I was playing Boros and realized that while I couldn't kill my opponent, my Emperor could. But my OP could kill my Emperor if they had a chance to attack into them first. So I had to concoct a plan during my opponents turn to get them to full swing into me, and then use my own burn to finishing killing ***myself*** during their turn so targeting would reset in time for my Emperor to get the first attack back.

  • @iTzDritte
    @iTzDritte Месяц назад

    18:48 Arne should’ve played the Fable Passage on the previous turn to making this play, because then he could’ve done the same trick but without forcing himself to spew the Drown in the Loch on the Innkeeper (rather by cracking the Fable Passage). I remember watching it live and thinking about how this was a punt a turn in advance, but I guess 99.9% of magic players had never seen this trick before at the time so everyone was dumbfounded that this was even possible at all.
    (It’s possible that Arne did want to commit himself to killing the Innkeeper with Drown anyways if Javier drew Ox that turn, but based on how long he paused, I can only assume that this was a mistake and he was trying to make sure that his line was the best way to recover.)