You can tell this is a true Lantern deck video with it almost being a 2 hour video and assuming the editor had a lot of trimming to go through on top of it.
Magic sure has many zero sum fun strategies. Anyway, I love how people seem to have a hard time defining the wincon of Lantern Control when it's clearly a prison deck
@@johndoe9343 It doesn't have a wincon because it doesn't have a specific way of winning the game. Yes, it mills people out, but that is a byproduct of top-deck manipulation. "Prison" in and of itself isn't a wincon. Establish prison decks such as Shops in Vintage or even old-school Sun and Moon in Modern all had a way of ending the game from under its lock. Lantern isn't like that (and that might not be obvious until you've played it a lot). As Rhystic Studies put it, "Lantern Control disassembles its opposition one card at a time and reduces decks to piles of dysfunctional game pieces," Its goal isn't to win, but to reduce its opponent's ability to win to 0%. Then, it eventually wins by default. I've had opponents wholly locked out of the game ask me, "Do you just want to call it a draw?" because they couldn't see a win condition and didn't understand that they had already lost. For future reference, the correct response to this is: 104.3a
@@johndoe9343I wouldn't even call it a true prison deck since it's not technically doing a combo that makes them unkillable. It's just the classic control strategy of "counter everything" except you counter the top of their library instead of the stack. It's just attrition made wincon.
My favorite lantern moment was at a LGS where my opponent was playing ad nauseam and declared "i will make you play it out" turn 1i blind milled his lab maniac and turn 2 I pithing needled his lightning storm, he instantly scooped
Mine was when I was playing a Skred player at my LGS. Game 3 I blind Pithing Needle'd Arid Mesa turn 1. He proceeded to play an Arid Mesa. I then followed up with a lantern and a shredder. He played another Arid Mesa. He never got to draw another land.
I cannot stand the blandness and poor layout of MTGO. Only problem with Arena is the p2w (which MTGO and base MTG both have anyways), and server crash issues
@@JollyGiantsForge Oh I didn’t mean I prefer actually playing MTGO to Arena, I meant purely in terms of RUclips content. I find the simplicity of MTGO makes for a much less confusing and more enjoyable viewing experience
@@JollyGiantsForge Guessing you're a kid who needs flashy animations and effects to keep you entertained? It's a card game, and MTGO looks like a card game. Blandness isn't an issue. Arena's UI is worse imo, with obscured cards in the hand, cards that don't tap sideways properly, cards that don't even look like Magic cards on the board (just squares of art).
The last several months it's been sad watching Seth mourn his favourite format. It's a treat seeing the pure joy as he plays lantern and the splinter twin video. Merry Christmas Seth
Ah, yes, Lantern Control, the deck where the win condition is your opponent standing up, walking over to the LGS's singles case, and asking the person working the counter if they can price and purchase an entire collection immediately.
Just want to point out, Lantern came into prominence while Twin was still a deck. One of the matches that put Lantern on the map was against Twin in fact, Zac Elsik vs Brian Braun-Duin during Grand Prix Oklahoma City 2015 where Zac beat Brian in the finals with Lantern.
I think it says a lot about Seth as he has said probably hundreds of times, that deck X Y Z is his all-time favorite one, and I have never had a reason to doubt him. Man loves his MtG alright. :)
Am I missing something or did not casting thoughtseize at 1:25:57 let them attack with frog, give flying then pump for lethal after blocks? They missed the line if so but still curious. Edit: immediately saw the pithing needle on psychic frog after posting
Seeing my favorite modern deck resurfacing definitely made my day, but on top of that 3 surgical extractions main deck just like I use to was the icing on the cake 🙏
i really wish i could like this video more than once. just love lantern control gameplay. it is so riviting! not just the lock, but the vunerability if *one card slips thru*. crazy cool~♡
Ahh, I feel complete. Nothing like control, but Seth playing it is special. Seeing this deck again is a fresh Hell for opponents. Merry Christmas Seth!
@erin_rose0 I'll have you know Immediately after he posted that comment, Tyler died from being trample by a heard of cows that he didn't see coming. The doctors said that if he weren't commenting on his phone, he might have been able to get out of the way in time. Seth's mispronounciation literally killed him. Now don't you feel foolish?
This just made me realize that Surgical Extraction is a strict upgrade to the card mentioned recently that lets you see an opponent's hand in Commander. You'll always fail to find, but you get to flip through someone's hand and deck
My favorite lantern moment was when I wasn't even playing lantern. I was on bant eldrazi post-Eye of Ugin ban. My opponent got a bridge down. I spent my turns just blinking TKS and Drowner of Hope to make a massive board and keep out other unwanted things, namely more Bridges. We did this for 10 or so minites. Finally my opponent asked "why are you making all those spawns? I have you under the lock." I said "It's fun. I'm playing it out." My opponent started to mill me super hard, and didn't realize he milled World Breaker. End of his turn, I got World Breaker back, then on my turn I cast it and exiled the bridge to swing for lethal. His face was priceless.
You can't see the second card from faithless looting because the second card drawn is technically never on the top of the deck. It isn't worded "draw a card then draw a card again", the trigger that resolves results in you drawing the top 2 cards of your deck at the same instance. Actually an interesting interaction.
I love Lantern Control; it never feels unfair. If you lose, it's almost always on you. If you win, you always have the sensation that your opponent might win as well.
Very fun video. Highly recommend letting the opponent draw before using surgical after a thoughtseize though. If you’re lucky you can get an extra card from their hand.
Until the next big paper event for Modern where the mox gets banned again for enabling a unfun playpattern. Just like last time when they argued the ban that way. Guess KCI was also part of the reason back then.
You should be able to see the second card since cards are drawn sequentially. Its weird that modo doesn't account for that since revealing the top of your own deck is rsther common.
Does this deck have any interest in Karn, the Great Creator? The sideboard is already practically all one-of artifacts anyways. It also hates out opponents' artifact activations, which comes up in odd spots, e.g. the Cranial Plating in M1G1
I took lantern to a gp once and got three draws in a row then dropped lol. Playing it in paper was a much different experience. People just wouldn't concede to the lock which fairplay as they got the draw out of me
Lantern has actually been a well positioned deck for a while now, especially in the last months. Arguably the mopa unban has been bad for the overall winrate.
Lantern is still viable i had an azorious affinity lantern control deck bit back, the issue always seemed to be in the speeding up of modern especially with horizon sets. So much preassure so fast while trying to set up lock pieces
Almost wish that creativity play had worked for opp in game 2. I think it's fair to hate lantern control as a deck. But it does force both the pilot and opponent to play out of their minds
great video. something i though of during this video, while it dosnt fit the artifact theme/synergy of thed deck. wouldnt something like telepathy work fine in the deck? (i imagine it has been tried when the deck was being grafted.) it does give you, more or less, perfect information. on the other hand, i think part of why so many plays melt down, is because mox opal just, JUST got unbanneded, so people play it more often as answear to the artifact decks, among them lantern control, so if we try this deck again, in a few weeks to months, melt down would probably be less prevelant.
Lantern Control is my favourite nightmare deck to play against. Instant scoop lmao Edit: I have a build that I occasionally bring out against people who haven't heard of it before. It all seems harmless until they eventually quit 😅
list seems semi playable, so i guess that's an overall win. is it too much to ask to have mana monkey back at this point? i'm kind of down with old power coming back to rebalance the format
academy ruins should protect against the indomitable creativity play you ran into, as you can put the bridge from graveyard on top of library in response and get it guaranteed.
You can tell this is a true Lantern deck video with it almost being a 2 hour video and assuming the editor had a lot of trimming to go through on top of it.
Yeah, it was over three hours before the editing lol
That was the first thing I noticed too lol awesome
Some of my favorite magic ever is when it becomes a battle of wits, attrition and bladder control.
Cool! two matches!
Seth just recreating the entire meta from my old lgs in peak modern
I missed these decks so much :)
@@MTGGoldfishtron needs an extra piece or 2
There is a finite amount of fun to be had playing Magic, and Lantern likes to have all of it.
Lantern of Insight? More like Lantern of incite rage.
Magic sure has many zero sum fun strategies.
Anyway, I love how people seem to have a hard time defining the wincon of Lantern Control when it's clearly a prison deck
@@johndoe9343 It doesn't have a wincon because it doesn't have a specific way of winning the game. Yes, it mills people out, but that is a byproduct of top-deck manipulation. "Prison" in and of itself isn't a wincon. Establish prison decks such as Shops in Vintage or even old-school Sun and Moon in Modern all had a way of ending the game from under its lock. Lantern isn't like that (and that might not be obvious until you've played it a lot).
As Rhystic Studies put it, "Lantern Control disassembles its opposition one card at a time and reduces decks to piles of dysfunctional game pieces," Its goal isn't to win, but to reduce its opponent's ability to win to 0%. Then, it eventually wins by default.
I've had opponents wholly locked out of the game ask me, "Do you just want to call it a draw?" because they couldn't see a win condition and didn't understand that they had already lost. For future reference, the correct response to this is: 104.3a
@@johndoe9343I wouldn't even call it a true prison deck since it's not technically doing a combo that makes them unkillable.
It's just the classic control strategy of "counter everything" except you counter the top of their library instead of the stack. It's just attrition made wincon.
Slink into stupor and Raccoon theater are two instant Seth classics
My favorite lantern moment was at a LGS where my opponent was playing ad nauseam and declared "i will make you play it out" turn 1i blind milled his lab maniac and turn 2 I pithing needled his lightning storm, he instantly scooped
Mine was when I was playing a Skred player at my LGS. Game 3 I blind Pithing Needle'd Arid Mesa turn 1. He proceeded to play an Arid Mesa. I then followed up with a lantern and a shredder. He played another Arid Mesa. He never got to draw another land.
I saw the Rhystic Studies video on Lantern Control a while back and was mesmerized about the play pattern, so I'm very excited to see this get played!
Honestly can’t express how happy it makes me to see MTGO Modern videos on this channel again 😅
Yeah, for me mtg arena was one of the worst things to ever happen to mtg content creation
I cannot stand the blandness and poor layout of MTGO. Only problem with Arena is the p2w (which MTGO and base MTG both have anyways), and server crash issues
@@JollyGiantsForge Oh I didn’t mean I prefer actually playing MTGO to Arena, I meant purely in terms of RUclips content. I find the simplicity of MTGO makes for a much less confusing and more enjoyable viewing experience
@@JollyGiantsForge Guessing you're a kid who needs flashy animations and effects to keep you entertained? It's a card game, and MTGO looks like a card game. Blandness isn't an issue.
Arena's UI is worse imo, with obscured cards in the hand, cards that don't tap sideways properly, cards that don't even look like Magic cards on the board (just squares of art).
The last several months it's been sad watching Seth mourn his favourite format.
It's a treat seeing the pure joy as he plays lantern and the splinter twin video.
Merry Christmas Seth
Ah, yes, Lantern Control, the deck where the win condition is your opponent standing up, walking over to the LGS's singles case, and asking the person working the counter if they can price and purchase an entire collection immediately.
Just want to point out, Lantern came into prominence while Twin was still a deck. One of the matches that put Lantern on the map was against Twin in fact, Zac Elsik vs Brian Braun-Duin during Grand Prix Oklahoma City 2015 where Zac beat Brian in the finals with Lantern.
Seth immediately playing the most miserable decks in Modern's history as soon as he can is such a perfect Saffron trollive move
Yes, opal being back means seth is playing lantern again!!
Love your channel too. Neat seeing you comment on this, but not too surprising. ❤️
I think it says a lot about Seth as he has said probably hundreds of times, that deck X Y Z is his all-time favorite one, and I have never had a reason to doubt him. Man loves his MtG alright. :)
You can tell Seth enjoyed this more than against the odds splinter twin. So many misplays in that video, it was painful 😂
Am I missing something or did not casting thoughtseize at 1:25:57 let them attack with frog, give flying then pump for lethal after blocks? They missed the line if so but still curious.
Edit: immediately saw the pithing needle on psychic frog after posting
You're a man after my own heart. Seth this is my favorite deck of all time. Merry Christmas! You add so much joy to my life every year.
So unbelievably pumped to watch my favorite modern deck of all time again!
Seeing my favorite modern deck resurfacing definitely made my day, but on top of that 3 surgical extractions main deck just like I use to was the icing on the cake 🙏
i really wish i could like this video more than once. just love lantern control gameplay. it is so riviting! not just the lock, but the vunerability if *one card slips thru*. crazy cool~♡
46:43 that turn 1 is the power of mox Opal in lantern!
You could have played saga t1 and make constructs early if you wanted to!
Ahh, I feel complete. Nothing like control, but Seth playing it is special. Seeing this deck again is a fresh Hell for opponents. Merry Christmas Seth!
Latern, affinity, and scales. Looks like my old mox opal enabled decks are back in the menu.
Punt! In match 4 you could have popped one of your pixis, to put both a splinter twin and deceiver into play and twined them out 😂
seth never has 7 mana to actually pop pixis though?
The pain of Seth calling Sink Into Stupor "Slink into Stupor".
this is like, the least impactful mispronunciation ever, you'll live
@@erin_rose0 no i wont
@erin_rose0 I'll have you know
Immediately after he posted that comment, Tyler died from being trample by a heard of cows that he didn't see coming. The doctors said that if he weren't commenting on his phone, he might have been able to get out of the way in time. Seth's mispronounciation literally killed him. Now don't you feel foolish?
This just made me realize that Surgical Extraction is a strict upgrade to the card mentioned recently that lets you see an opponent's hand in Commander.
You'll always fail to find, but you get to flip through someone's hand and deck
Are you talking about Gitaxian Probe?
They're talking about Urza's Glasses. Richard was singing its praises in a recent podcast episode
Seth's Modern Nostalgia Tour continues with it's 2nd stop featuring Lanturn Control. What will Seth play next time?
hoping for Hollow One or Phoenix. We've seen a twin deck, we've seen an Opal deck. Time for a Flooting deck!
I would also take a GSZ Maverick deck ;)
I love you Seth, you get so much joy from playing the most toxic decks you can think of, you're the quintessential Magic player.
Needs some glasses to search up with saga.
You know modern is a good place when seth is having fun and aspiring spike is making 5 new decks a day.
My favorite lantern moment was when I wasn't even playing lantern. I was on bant eldrazi post-Eye of Ugin ban. My opponent got a bridge down. I spent my turns just blinking TKS and Drowner of Hope to make a massive board and keep out other unwanted things, namely more Bridges. We did this for 10 or so minites. Finally my opponent asked "why are you making all those spawns? I have you under the lock." I said "It's fun. I'm playing it out." My opponent started to mill me super hard, and didn't realize he milled World Breaker. End of his turn, I got World Breaker back, then on my turn I cast it and exiled the bridge to swing for lethal. His face was priceless.
This video is really the good stuff. It is nice to see Seth sooo happy. Good for you Seth 😊
You can't see the second card from faithless looting because the second card drawn is technically never on the top of the deck. It isn't worded "draw a card then draw a card again", the trigger that resolves results in you drawing the top 2 cards of your deck at the same instance. Actually an interesting interaction.
I love that Mopal gets unbanned and Seth's first thought is Lantern Control :D
As soon as the opponent revealed the Meltdown on top of the deck I cheered, I have never been so happy to see Seth lose
I haven’t played modern since 2015 but this new post-ban era has been great to watch and makes me consider playing again
Way too excited to see this. Santa came early this year. I love lantern control.
I love Lantern Control; it never feels unfair. If you lose, it's almost always on you. If you win, you always have the sensation that your opponent might win as well.
love this deck! the matches seem like a grappling match
When will wizard stop being cowards and put lantern on arena
I'm in tears. It's so beautiful
I only watch your videos that are off the mtg arena server. So happy to see you making modern content again 😌
This is my favorite deck of all time omg so excited to watch
Yesss! Lantern is my favourite Modern deck to watch! (alongside the "Kaya's Extraction" against the odds deck you made a few years ago. I have a type)
Kaya’s Extraction is still my favourite deck he’s ever played, and that even includes his knowledge pool lock decks
im so happy to see mtgo gameplay again
Wasn't there Green Sun's Zenith video?
There was a stream, the VOD is up on the MTGGoldfishReplay channel.
@@davidhansen5067 thanks 👍
We played it a bit on stream, but haven't done a full video for it yet. Soon, hopefully!
Very fun video. Highly recommend letting the opponent draw before using surgical after a thoughtseize though. If you’re lucky you can get an extra card from their hand.
Not only have I been missing modern, I've been missing you playing modern =)
I cheered at that surgical off the top and then they had one in hand!
I just saw the title of this video and I can't tell you how excited I am that both modern is back and Lantern Control is back.
Until the next big paper event for Modern where the mox gets banned again for enabling a unfun playpattern. Just like last time when they argued the ban that way. Guess KCI was also part of the reason back then.
You should be able to see the second card since cards are drawn sequentially. Its weird that modo doesn't account for that since revealing the top of your own deck is rsther common.
"We can play as long as you want to opponent or until your deck can't play anymore, your choice." - Lantern Player
This is the single-handedly the best day ever. Lantern Control in 2024? Thank you Seth 😭
Great video!
The title isn't about the video its a prophecy of my locals performance tomorrow.
Aww yisss! Been waiting for this! 😍
I feel like the Blue version of lantern control would be better, Blue/Black, maybe a free spalsh of green for sideboard tech.
MTGO designers adding in extra time for top of library effects because they were annoyed at how hard it was to implement it
Does this deck have any interest in Karn, the Great Creator? The sideboard is already practically all one-of artifacts anyways. It also hates out opponents' artifact activations, which comes up in odd spots, e.g. the Cranial Plating in M1G1
4 mana is a lot, the deck is quite low to the ground
Man it's cool to see Gaddock Teeg again!
Yep definitely gotta make sure your opponent doesn't destroy your ensnaring bridge from below
Lantern is the best control. Absolutely love this deck.
I love decks that would never be predicted by the designers
Modern is going through its coke classic phase
Gosh yes, Lantern is the coolest pro deck of all time. I don't care what haters think, there's nothing better!
My favorite deck
I took lantern to a gp once and got three draws in a row then dropped lol. Playing it in paper was a much different experience. People just wouldn't concede to the lock which fairplay as they got the draw out of me
let's go! my favourite archetype!!
Those poor opponents, they still had hope even in the end, xD.
Do we really live in a world where lantern control getting unbanned is a good thing. Life is truly despair.
Racoon Theater xD Seth never change
Lantern has actually been a well positioned deck for a while now, especially in the last months. Arguably the mopa unban has been bad for the overall winrate.
Also, running 4 mopals is almost definitely incorrect in the BG build. The correct number is probably 1-2.
Lantern is still viable i had an azorious affinity lantern control deck bit back, the issue always seemed to be in the speeding up of modern especially with horizon sets. So much preassure so fast while trying to set up lock pieces
Is it possible to name clue with pithing needle to cut off tamiyo draws?
Look! Modern is healing itself
*Checks video runtime* Yep, seems about right.
i would be expecting a 7 hour video if their opp was going to play out the entire thing
YES. WE'RE SO BACK.
🏮
Almost wish that creativity play had worked for opp in game 2.
I think it's fair to hate lantern control as a deck. But it does force both the pilot and opponent to play out of their minds
he had academy ruins so he was always going to get one back tbf
I hate lantern. I remember playing a GP in Brisbane. I played a Jank deck back, some Lilis, lingering souls, rhinos. Played twice against lantern 😢😢
great video. something i though of during this video, while it dosnt fit the artifact theme/synergy of thed deck. wouldnt something like telepathy work fine in the deck? (i imagine it has been tried when the deck was being grafted.) it does give you, more or less, perfect information.
on the other hand, i think part of why so many plays melt down, is because mox opal just, JUST got unbanneded, so people play it more often as answear to the artifact decks, among them lantern control, so if we try this deck again, in a few weeks to months, melt down would probably be less prevelant.
Modern has been missed and it’s back!!!
if drawing is an issue, would bowmaster be a good SB piece?
Lantern Control is my favourite nightmare deck to play against. Instant scoop lmao
Edit: I have a build that I occasionally bring out against people who haven't heard of it before. It all seems harmless until they eventually quit 😅
Gotta love seeing seth learn how good draw 2's are against lantern through out the video and especially in game 2😂
I have been trying a whirza sword lantern deck, it is meh, but I love the style
Lantern Control might be the most miserable deck ever created.
Of course Seth also loves the opposite of stone rain. 😂
list seems semi playable, so i guess that's an overall win. is it too much to ask to have mana monkey back at this point? i'm kind of down with old power coming back to rebalance the format
Please try silver moon! Sure, ssg is still gone, but rituals are still around!
Is Inventor's Fair too slow to play in Lantern?
academy ruins should protect against the indomitable creativity play you ran into, as you can put the bridge from graveyard on top of library in response and get it guaranteed.
Hm, if opponents drawing a bunch is good against the deck, is there worth in playing Narset?
As an 8 rack girlie, love me some lantern control
Now the real question is how long until the unbanned cards see a reprint? Or will they get rebanned in march
it's funny that Seth says he loves this deck... because he's such a bad pilot for it.
13:55 I think he wanna say so funny but stopped 🤣
if i were to get into modern. lantern would be my choice.
The fact this video’s like 2 hours long tells me everything I need to know
We are so back baybee 🗣🗣🗣
lantern shows the difference between 60 card players and edh players. in no world would a stax/prison deck be one of the most loved decks in edh xd
Modern is so back!
Im trying to run a lantern brew with jace fate sealing action together but i might just try this one instead lol.