The Mind Body Problem
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2017
- The Mind-Body problem is one of the greatest conundrums of philosophy and of our everyday lives too.
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“The so-called Mind-Body problem is one of the greatest and most quietly painful conundrums in philosophy - and more importantly, in everyday life. The problem is rooted in the fact that in the eyes of other people, all of us are automatically and stubbornly associated with our bodies (which includes, of course, our faces). The way we look is the overwhelming factor that dictates how others assess our natures and our characters. Whatever lip service we might pay to less punitive ideologies, in the practical world, who ‘we’ are is taken to be how we look…”
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I think "mind-body problem" more typically refers to the mechanism by which the mind and body interact.
IKR? I think this is a misappropriation of the term.
Yes, this is how I teach it.
You certainly cover a problem but the "mind body problem" is a specific philosophical problem dealing with consciousness and the physical body: is the mind a physical thing? You should have chosen a different title for the video (not that you didn't cover an important topic but I was expecting something on the actual mind body problem).
I wonder how one would cover such a topic. Hard science has yet to even come close to solving that one. To me, it is the central question of existence, and yet we are no closer now to solving it than we were 2,000 years ago.
Ultimately, we have no idea whatsoever what we actually are.
That fascinates me no end.
:-)
Well put. in my view. we actually do not live HERE. what we are is an image of someone who lives elsewhere. It is as though the world were a television screen and our minds were the eyes of consciousness that see others as we see ourselves.
We chose the title very deliberately, to draw attention to what we feel is philosophy's somewhat counter-intuitive focus. This - we feel - is what the problem should always have been about.
School of life, looking back at the history of philosophy suggests that the problem you are dealing with is more of a contemporary problem. The ancients didn't seem to think even think of it... nor really anyone outside of the past 100, maybe 200 yrs. It would be an interesting endeavor to see how old the problem you are dealing with is. I suspect it is a result of existentialism or of like minded philosophies that produced the problem you are dealing with. An easy way to disprove me is to show that the idea is older than the early existentialists.
why are you stubborn in changing the literature of the philosophy and changing universal concepts? which are not wrong or immoral !
Just imagine what happens if every one thinks like you, for example everyone gives his/her own definition of the key terms, to the extent they are absolutely irrelevant or the opposite of each other, there would be no common language to communicate
This isn't what the mind-body problem is..
You're correct in a sense - but the mind-body problem is 'The mind is about mental processes, thought and consciousness. The body is about the physical aspects of the brain-neurons and how the brain is structured. The mind-body problem is about how these two interact.'
The video doesn't cover this at all. Rather, it's suggesting what we are on the outside is not our true selves. This is a very different idea to the mind-body problem; Alain seems to be saying that we have this sense of there being a 'barrier' between ourselves and others due to others not being able to 'see' our mind, and this is a completely valid idea. However, it isn't the mind-body problem and the title is.. misleading.
We did choose the title very consciously, to try to reclaim it for what - we feel - is a fairer focus.
I see - that's definitely an interesting spin on the problem. As a psychology student we're almost conditioned to have the original definition of the problem in memory, and I've never really considered other ways of interpreting it.
Your videos are a perfect description of the things we tend to ignore, purposefully, in life. Keep up the great work!
It's a bit misleading though, don't you think? For people unaware of the philosophical problem, you have now misinformed them. I think it would be better to first explain the philosophical problem and then do this psychological interpretation of it.
This is an excellent video on this psychological conundrum, but I agree it is inaccurate to use this title, because the mind-body problem refers to a long standing debate on how to make sense of questions like whether or not the mind is distinct from physical or biological processes, if the self is somehow distinct from the body and is really akin to a non physical soul, and how to make sense of the relationship between the brain and consciousness. There is a really astute observation you are making here about the problem of biases and prejudice with regard to body type, facial appearance etc and how we too easily ascribe virtue to attractive people who may be mean spirited and ignobility to those who look unappealing but may be saintly. How to keep expressing and sharing our values, talents, opinions and interests with others so as to have authentic intimacy that penetrates these built in prejudices is an important question, but it is not technically the "mind body problem" as discussed by philosophers.
shrek is inside my body, trying to escape
Shrek is handsome, so let him out. Lol jk. I have an old hag inside of me.
Just keep farting out "All Star" by Smash Mouth! Shrek will come out of there, eventually! :D
Tony James Gilpin the farted "All-star" never stops
Emma
Somebody once told me that they were gonna kill me, if I didn't stop farting in their faa-ace! :D
Shrek is love, Shrek is life!!
Shrek is Inside me too!! Riding donkey, I've got such weird shaped knees
I wish people from my school would watch this channel. Everyone would be so much nicer.
***** thanks for the inspiration :)
- - this is terrible arrogant and not nice at all
I wish a lot more people in general would watch this stuff, the world would be a better place. We need a shift from religious to philosophical thinking
This comment is a shining gem of intelligence and wisdom offered with a mature, developed vocabulary.
***** how nice, really!
This is not the Mind Body problem
No, not from the traditional teaching of the ontology of the mind. Looking at the School of Life's justification of the title, they're teaching a different interpretation of philosophy that is geared towards practical wisdom that is useful for all rather than theoretical knowledge that is interesting to some. They believe philosophy should be about helping people to live a better life which is a different but reasonable approach, hence the way this topic has been discussed.
I remember my favorite teacher in middle school was my 6th grade literature teacher. He was a skinny guy, & just goofy enough to keep us laughing. one day he heard someone say something mean to another student. Our teacher stopped everything and in the most serious tone told us a story about he himself , and how he was obese for many years. he explained the pain in great detail, the struggle of everyday. He than proceeded to say.
" obviously I lost all the weight and I'm healthy now. but every morning when I look in the mirror I will always see a huge, fat person. Doesn't matter if I weigh 200lbs or 70lbs. I'll always see that fat kid looking back at me." I'll never forget that story .
Holy fuck bro..it's chilling wtf
That’s so true ... happens to me too. Your mind has a hard time adjusting to NOW’s reality
Its true, I've lost a lot of weight now and even though I know and can see that I look better I still feel like the old me.
Maybe character is imposed and not chosen.
John Paradise is
John Paradise That is of course true as well, but you _are_ your character, while you _have_ your body.
See, i think we are our bodies as well. I can't imagine a person without a body.
Our character is imposed on our minds by our bodies. But just like depression can cause chemical imbalance in the brain, a self-imposed character (by the mind) might cause imbalance in the body
Well, but I think in this context, it only matters what we *feel*, and our body does by far not feel as me-ish as our character. At least as far as I am concerned.
this isn't the mind body problem?
We have taken the calculated decision to use this prestigious term of mind-body problem to focus on the issue which we feel is absolutely central to being human, and in its way a lot more interesting than Descartes's puzzles. We know from our work with students that issues of Cartesian metaphysics are properly irrelevant to most people who want to study wisdom, which is what we feel philosophy is and should be.
@The School of Life
Ignoring the actual philosophy and trying to pretend that something you consider "more interesting" is the real philosophy is dishonest and arrogant. People watched this video because they wanted to learn about real mind-body problem, not an unrelated issue. That's why so many people in the comments are calling you out on this.
+uanime1 i also disagree with many points in this video. identity is not something that is arbitrarily chosen by an individual. it's an interplay between the individual and how they choose to portray themselves, and society's interpretation of them. you enter a realm of chaotic disorganization if you allow people to "identify" as anything, as deluded as they might be.
This is not the hard problem of consciousness David Chalmers talks about
The School of Life your videos are excellent , but please *turn up the volume* so it would be easier to listen to. Thank you. 😄
Faces and first impressions are only when one first meets us. After one gets to know another person they judge them not by their physical/outer characteristics but but their inner character.
What's interesting is that for the first time in history we're about to enter an era where technology will allow us to customize what we look like (think cosmetic nanobots, effortless weight loss, skin/eye color choice, etc...) to an extremely high degree. This is already becoming true with designer babies and virtual reality. In fact, technology will start addressing some pretty fundamental physical and existential issues that have been around from the start.
But, when I hear "mind body problem" I tend to think it should refer to something deeper like 'how does an invisible mortal self-conscious "spirit" animate this flesh-meat body?', not something as superficial as "people don't look like they want to".
heh your comment just reminded me of a great comic series I read called Transmetropolitan (1997) by Warren Ellis in which the "first issue is about an attempted secession by the Transient movement, people who use genetic body modification based on alien DNA to become a completely different species, who are forced to live in the Angels 8 slum district."
"Designer babies" sounds like something that allows us to customize how other people look, not ourselves.
i dont think i want to live in a world in which babies are born..."predesigned".
I'm looking forward to a world without congenital diseases to be honest.
Even if/when designer babies become the norm, these kids will still grow up hating a part of themselves. People with straight hair want curly, people with curly hair want straight. Even designer babies will have to grow up, and learn to accept and love themselves for things they cannot change.
I got about 1 min into the vid and felt like what they were saying was wrong. Then with a quick google search confirmed that the mind body problem, in philosophy, refers to something very different....
I like school of life... but I would think that they would at least address this and say that they are dealing with totally different material than the original philosophical idea.
I mean both ideas might be the mind body problem, but they should clarify at the very least.
Also, not to be rude, but this is a much more basic idea than the more complicated one I found first search result on Google.
Agreed.
These are so relaxing to watch. Instantaneously feel calm after watching them and lifted. Thank you for offering these videos, truly a rewarding experience. :)
Hey School of Life, can you make a video on how to resolve sexual tension between 2 strangers?
Hmm, crack a joke?
😂wtf
Sex and murder are 100% effective.
I'd love to learn how to handle when I get horny and emotional. And my partner doesn't feel the same because of the way I look, or how he is tired all the time. I'd love to learn how to not be so sad about it.
Hello Amar! The founder of this channel Alain de Botton has an excellent book called " How to think more about sex". He also has a speech on youtube with the same name. Take a look if you wish. Have a nice weekend!
Can you please talk about psychedelics like DMT and shrooms? I would love to hear a philosophical take on passing through the other side without bashing it. Your mind and body can completely separate and I think this should be discussed in a profound way
Royal Blew psychadelicsis one of the few important things this Chanel hasent discust yet
psichadelics have been used forever
and always will
A channel called PyschedSubstance is great with it. He tests them, explains his trips, how to prepare and TRIES to explain how they MIGHT make you feel. It's very education and amusing. Some can be philosophical but it's mostly wise and sounds like he is very experienced. He also talks about other drugs but he focuses on hallucinogens.
Oz Vonrosen I just tried acid for the first time this month. I have never experienced anything so beautiful. I definitely want to try shrooms later on as well
Royal Blew yo dude if you ever come too spain send me a private message and well meet up and I'll show u a good trip ;) shrooms or acid one or the other is always available!
yo, did you just assume my mind?
xapemanx triggered
xapemanx on behalf of us all I am sorry. do you have a mind? what is your mindnouns(?) ... prominds (?) ... mentapros ... hm ... mindathoughts ? ... promentamindnouns ... What is your thinkmindnounscape?
Less shit posts, more intelligent discussions
But as social creatures.. Intelligent discussions are just fought over who appears more intelligent, not what truly is valuable from such a discussion(unless the conflict is valuable, it can be to be honest). Because for the majority of people the goal is being the best among peers rather than being right or presenting something useful to others. If the normal peoples attempt to engage in intelligent discussions without any real training or high effort, it will only clutter, clog and confuse thoughtful debaters. Here on youtube shitposts are alright, funny things and relatable things heal people and aren't bad in the large scope of things. This is a little bit off topic but I like to use this concept for talking about intelligence and why society seems to try and dumb people down. " For sentient creatures our danger and claws are our intelligence and motives, and to keep everyone together and safe as an optimal group, sometimes those people who accept being de-clawed are heavily beneficial to the function of everyone together. If our nature is to argue and fight, removing our capability to do so, or lower the stakes and scales of such arguments is a blessing of it's own. "
If a person likes intelligent discussions, good for them because it's a commodity that can be traded for other goods and services. I like intelligent discussions, but I think it's something that tires normal fare of peoples.
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This is why I avoid looking in the mirror as much as possible... -_-
This reminds me a line from Sherlock
"Disguise is always a self portrait."
The body is a reflection of the soul. The noble demeanor becomes evident with noble intentions.
I hate my broad scary face... I'd never leave home without a mask if the law allowed me to wear one... I feel so good when my face is covered up. I hate my wretched form so much it's kind of debilitating.
I think the way you look is somewhat molded by who you are.
Kinzarn facial micro expression and body language alter our recognition.
Molded by, yes, but not determined by.
Also the who you are (how you live your live, act in front of others, what you dream about, think, the whole character etc.) is molded by your looks, at least in my case.
That makes sense. But there are some big discrepancies. A key one is ageing. Someone might feel youthful but immediately gets seen as old because their body has indeed aged. It's very common for someone with grey hair and wrinkles to look in the mirror and feel: that can't be me.
"The soul is born old, but grows young. That is the comedy of life. And the body is born young, and grows old. That is life's tragedy." Oscar Wilde
This was an astoundingly accurate video portraying the difficulties associated with the seemingly automatic separation of body and mind due to appearance. Thank you for another scrumptious dose of enlightenment, TSoL.
I think this problem is complicated by the fact that we are naturally attracted by physical attributes, as well as someone's mind. While it's nice to pretend that the two can be distinct and separate, I think it's probably more accurate to say that mind and body influence each other in profound ways. How we feel affects how we perceive. Our thoughts also influence how we feel. So while it's true that "who we are" is not "what we look like", separating the two is not straightforward. There is a bi-directional influence going on, and that should not be ignored. But perhaps we can become more aware of the influences on our thinking, and perhaps become more rational. For example, we might decide to realise the (potential) weaknesses of physical attraction and look beyond it for something deeper. We might filter our first impressions of someone and instead look behind the actions to see what motivates them, and try to learn more about the "real person" inside them. Then there's the challenge of doing that without coming across as creepy haha. Ah human interaction is so complicated.
"Don't judge a book by it's cover."
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Luis Felipe thanks for your pov.
this new episodes are amazing! Your videos had started to seem kind of repetitive to me, like they were always saying the same thing, but I was impressed by the last ones! the friendship one, this one... truly inspiring! keep on the great work!
I love the School of Life videos. So much of their content has profoundly changed my life, and they do such a great service in the world. I find however that with topics like this--they fall a little short. They are so correct about the Mind-Body problem, but the scope of what types of struggles the present seem too narrow. Being mistaken for an accountant isn't the same as being mistaken for an assailant, mentally challenged, or weak. The problems they detect are quite subtle, which is their talent, but to miss the blaring more desperate examples, present a cleaner more sterile version of the world than is helpful. This is not to say the video isn't great, but could be more compelling.
This isn't about the mind body problem though, is it? It's about an entirely different thing? Cool.
+TheLaughingOut yeah it was a cool video but probably not the best title
It's not just the title though. He introduces the mind body problem at the start of the video.
We did choose the title deliberately! Thanks for watching.
Are you saying that you deliberately mislead your viewers?
@schooloflife You guys are awesome. Keep doing what you're doing. :)
You released the video so early! Thank you, School of Life.
Love your channel. Keep up the good work, we need your kindness and positivity :)
It's so nice when I literaraly just thought about this problem when i was in school and I looked at my secret love and thought about what she might think about me. Then i realized we don't know anything about each other except our appearance and what we heard from others. Then i realized that i realy regret my past, but she might still think that I am like the one i was 1 or 2 years ago: A hyperactive loud child. I guess the only way to solve this problem would be to communicate but I feel like my past really gives me struggle in life, thats why iam realy looking forward to start all over again with new people who didn't experience my entire puberty. The fact that you talk about the things i think about makes me feel less crazy.
Tell that to Kylie Jenner.
Avernus Varethi uhh what, why?
She's addicted to plastic surgery at 19.
Smiles
Tell that to "Kaitlyn" Gender
lol
What I gather from this is that just as you know for a fact that what’s “inside you” doesn’t necessarily reflect in your physical appearance (and vice versa), so should you give others the same consideration. Let’s be kind to ourselves, and be kind to others :) Have a good day! :D
Yh exactly I always feel like how I look isn't a true/proper reppresentation of my character
Reminds me of a television program I saw. The premise was to take a group of single men and women and have them meet in the dark. They would get to know each other by talking and sometimes touching to get an idea of who the person was. In the end they were shown each other without getting to see the other persons reaction . It was very interesting how some connected so well in the dark, but then got hung up on the look of the person. I forget the name of the show but some episodes were fascinating
Ending was wonderfully comforting,. Perfect way to complete this, made me smile, thank u so much
"Why are you always looking so angry?"
Wtf guys . This videos explanation has nothing to do with the real mind-body problem. The real mind body problem concernes about the communication between the immaterial mind (thoughts, consciousness, qualia) and the material body/ brain.
Exactly. Alternative facts at its finest.
Yep! This video is full of shit!
Thoughtful much, as always. It prompted me to think about something I have always felt about myself; that my life, at best, is simply one I have had a privilege to witness up close. You ever felt like that? This epiphany stems from an empirical understanding of self: How I seem to have a side to which I'm drawn and a trajectory, seemingly thematic, to which I am predisposed. I guess what I mean to say is that my body carries its own thinking with it and that this gets in the way of a lot of things.
Herbert Uba
Excellent explanation. Your words explain exactly how I am. I'm impressed that you worded it so well and uplifted that there's someone else experiencing the same thing as I am. Kudos.
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR SO LONG THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
I love your videos, but I am greatly scared to watch them due to their reality
There is a 2 year old apache helicopter inside of me wanting to get out.
I have never been this early... thank you for this daily reflection. Always a pleasure to see a new one.
when we feel happy and fulfilled within, the world including ourselves seems beautiful and benign..on bad days however we project our inner disturbed moods onto the world..beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
I've been learning so much from you guys lately, thank you.. Soso much❤️
My body is that of Apolo but alas I am not a Greek god, it is sad so many people make the confusion -___-
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Thank you, I'm struggling with my identity right now and this really helped me, especially the part with "a person trapped in someone else". I'm a teenage girl, but I always felt that I should have been a boy, i always identified my mind and my inner person as a male one. I thaught about becoming transsexual, but I never felt like I would have been more confortable in a male body that wasn't mine from birth.
This video made me think that maybe the things are the way they should be. Maybe I'm a male on the inside and I don't need to change my physical appearance for that.
Gender expression is different different to gender.
I'm a trans-female because I can't stand being in the body of a male and I get euphoria from looking like a female. This is independent to my hobbies or interests which people may see as either masculine or feminine.
it's been 4 years since your comment.
hmm, I wonder how you going with that struggle.
I look like a stoner according to basically everyone, which makes sense considering my Californian mannerisms and unkemptness. The negatives of being characterized as such don't bother me, most have to do with being unmotivated, absent-minded, a loser, and a ton of other things I don't mind, while the positives, being a pacifist, relaxed, nice, etc., help me so much with social interactions. Although their assumptions of me are most certainly false, I am lucky that their assumptions come with a ton of good baggage.
WoW this is Exactly my problem and I'd never even thought about this before. But it's True... We judge people by the way they look all the time but get mad when people assume things about us ... As if the other person should know better, but we don't know better...
School of Life, this was an amazing video. So apt for those that struggle or are unable to showcase who they are internally. I know you focus on the emotional intelligence aspect of these inherently philosophical issues - but I believe this episode could have been followed up with by an episode/case study on modern technology's ability to create idealized versions of us: either through social media manipulation, the use of digital avatars as an ideal personification, or the way platforms like snapchat are introducing augmented reality technologies, and how this will affect perceptions of ourselves in the future.
unfortunatly it is wrong. the mind-body-problem is a real concept in science of cognition. this video is about something else...
Appearance is an illusion. But maybe people are an illusion too.
Solid Snake how much I wish that was the case
Meliha Günes same
there were times my looks were the only thing that kept my ego alive. When I look in the mirror now I only see a weak, insane and bad person.
I can relate on the “my looks were the only thing” part. I was bragging about my looks so much ... but it was to SUBCONSCIOUSLY cover up for other things I didn’t have or accomplish
Thank you for sharing! All of your videos are amazing, helpful and insightful. They keep me sane lol, I can always count on one of your videos to make me feel better when I think I'm a crazy person 😂👍
Yh I know right all these issues are issues I see no one else talking about
I'd like to thank this channel for helping me find more inner peace c:
I have a slightly different perspective of this 'problem.' I do bodybuilding, so the idea of 'outward sculpting' is exactly the goal. For me, lifting reflects a part of my inner self, that I enjoy challenging myself. The focus and physical exertion required is almost like a form of meditation to me. And I don't feel 'misrepresented;' I feel like as I see progress my physical appearance better reflects my inner self.
you describe the time period before the mindbody-problem in this video. your construct of representation will inevitably collapse when you stop bodybuilding, which is soon as its unhealthy and unsustainable unlike yoga or gymnastics for example.
I have the exact opposite problem. My body represents me too well :'(
I'm guessing you have a weak, frail, pitiful body...
this video blew my mind, congratulations!
I think the title was a clever play on words. The disruption of expectations was not a disappointment as I've seen countless videos and read many articles on the standard mind/body dilemma. The mind/body problem you describe increases with age and disability.
There's a problem with this video, although it does explore the mind body problem the only solution that arises is to just accept it as a fact of life. The mind body problem is actually just a state of mind and any state of mind can be changed. You see, others put label on us from the similarities of other people's personality to their body type and not vice versa. Sure we may initially be generalized in the body category but if we allow our personalities to shine through enough they no longer associate us to a similar body type but rather associate our personality to this body type. In the end, just be who you want to be and let your personality shine through c:
This video is totally wrong. The mind body problem has nothing to do with the discrepancy between what we think and how we look. This wasn't serious philosophy at all.
Zohaib Hameed okay, we’re progressing from the tradition view here, if you missed it. This is just Du Bottom’s explanation. You don’t have to agree.
@@samanthataylor1761 yh exactly I really liked that he took the time to talk about this, other people would call this thing trivial and not even look at it as a problem in the first place
Nikolai Maharaj I know dude.😍 and he did it so perfectly.
He gave a whole new meaning to philosophy and this very ‘theory’. This guy is underrated and we’re all so blessed to be living at the same time as him. Nevermind being able to access all of his wisdom so easily.
"Fundamental Attribution Error", for those interested in learning more about the disconnect between the way we perceive/judge ourselves and the way we perceive/judge others. Definitely one of the more interesting cognitive biases I've come across!
This makes a lot of sense, to a degree higher than just faces.
People and society assume certain things and, as a byproduct, invite those qualities out of us.
Then eventually we grow into who they originally saw us as, at least in some small part.
This could best be countered by taking notice of how you change and working to better yourself
Am I the single one here who`s body represents exactly his mind ?
You know it's kind of funny because my mind and body are actually pretty synced. I look like a heartless villain, because I am...
mephistopheles the silent chief You ma'am (or mister) must have a very interesting look.
Ingrid Spangler You flatterer.
When you take over the world, may you put this random youtuber on the list "to eliminate last" or "second to last"?
mephistopheles the silent chief assuming there will be some inevitable annoyance like rebellion, with enemies plenty, it means I get to see ALL of a rapid rising and falling evil empire before going in a rather kinky manner? Amazing.
I honestly have no idea how a heartless villain looks like.
you guys are my favourite channel. Keep up the good work.
wow. this video is so... i do not know the exact word to describe what i am feeling now but its along the lines of "wow" and "cool". haha. thanks again for this amazinggg video!
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Can you make more videos on mental disorders?
Hello Antonio! I thought you would be interested in the work of Andrew Solomon. Just google his name if you wish. He has excellent TED Talks on depression, and he has a very valuable book called " Far from the tree". You can watch the trailer of that book on youtube. Best wishes:-)
Thanks for making effort and trying to help.
Best wishes to you too.
This, like everything you guys and gals produce is brilliant and profound. Thank you. : )
I would like to point out that this is one of many reasons that people find it far easier to socialize on the internet. And that perhaps the internet is one of the primary reasons that we are so much more aware of the disparities that can take place between mind and body. (I refer more specifically to presentation and perception. I do believe that psychological and psychological health are still interconnected.)
A book by Sherry Turkle addresses a peripheral issue. I don't recall the book discussing this idea, but perhaps she'd like to fold it into her theories.
I don't know what my face says about my personality...
Heya up and atom.....love ur videos
Your face says, you are kate Winslet from eternal Sunshine of spotless mind
im short, have an ugly nose, acne scars. i fucking hate my body god dammit! sex is out of the question unless i pay for it or settle for someone uglier than me. i feel like the chances of me living a long and happy life are greatly reduced because of the way i look. :(
Don't give up sir. I have fucking bloody infected puss oozing skin on my face that flakes off when it's dry.. it's called Atopic Dermatitis.. I have it predominantly on my neck and forehead as of now but it spreads to everywhere on my body when it's bad.. I also have bad skin scars too from the skin issues.. and I even found someone to love me. So don't give up. There is someone for everyone. I still believe my skin has ruined my life though. In my picture I don't have it bad.. but right now. I'm unrecognizable. :(
Erika Love you're a girl, so fuck off.
LucasAndAGuitar Okay. So what's your point? She's a girl? So what? From what I can spot out is an ignorant comment that's just been made. All she was trying to do was make him/her feel better as if they're not alone only by looks. ALL she was trying to DO was comfort them. That is ALL. And you had the never to write "fuck off, you're a girl". We all have the same feelings. We're not separated to think differently just because of our genders. We all think and feel the same way.
LucasAndAGuitar I still don't get your point. Like why do you care if she's a girl though?
+ Hardcore Blues men and women have similar feelings of insecurity, however the reality its undeniably different for the two genders, generally speaking. in other words, the number of girls who feel like they are unattractive is probably proportionately similar to that of men that feel the same way, but when those same girls actually try to go out and find a mate( or just get laid) they will find it is quite easy. for men, not so much. so for all of the good intentions of the fist person who responded, its really not that "comforting" or much of a consolation. she may have things that are "wrong" with her, but at the end of the day, will have a much easier time finding someone than me( a guy). i ( or someone in a similar position) would much rather have heard from a guy with similar problems saying "i still found someone to love me". anyway that is just one way to look at it. not trying to be a dick. the gesture was appreciated Erika.
The animations in all of the videos in this channel is as fresh as their topics
I may be a philosophical chap, which i also has been described as.
People usually say that i seem like a person who hides secrets or/and not letting my true self out.
I therefore challenge them to ask me a question i will answer truthfully (which i always do). But it's often shallow questions, like; have you kissed a guy and liked it?
Doesn't get any deeper than that, but i wish it could. I have tons of thoughts, feelings and comments about life, but they are selldom to be heard. But maybe it is just like that for all of us..
Anyways, thank you School of life for this wonderful channel! :-)
Was it really wise to call this "the mind body problem"?
Ask 1000 philosophers what this problem is and 1000 philosophers will give the same answer which is different from what you present here.
We have taken the calculated decision to use this prestigious term of mind-body problem to focus on the issue which we feel is absolutely central to being human, and in its way a lot more interesting than Descartes's puzzles. We know from our work with students that issues of Cartesian metaphysics are properly irrelevant to most people who want to study wisdom, which is what we feel philosophy is and should be.
The redefinition of words impedes communication and makes learning and engaging in dialectic harder. It might attract attention to a matter in the short term, but it will stifle dialog and hurt your overall mission.
The School of Life: Why do you think “not judging people by their bodies” is more a mark of wisdom than “understanding whether our bodies give rise to the mind, or vice versa”?
@@theschooloflifetv so... clickbait then
@@theschooloflifetv And what do you say to someone who leaves this video thinking she knows something about what philosophers call the "mind-body problem"? You think you might at least mention that you're using the term in a non-standard way.
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I think a great literary example of this is Owen Meany, but his mind vs body actually makes him a much more endearing character and really balances him out.
Great video, so clear and concise. Thanks!
Stop making me sad School of Life
Suffering = Consciousness
Conscience => Existence
Existence = Happiness
UnpredictableSB I wouldn't realy put an equal sign inbetween existence and happiness.
Was uploading this an error? It's 2am.
Josh Bambrick it's 7 where I am
Josh Bambrick its nine in my time zone haha
In the UK
6pm where I am
Josh Bambrick GMT elitist
Your character also has an effect on your appearence though, and vice versa. Even the facial expression we hold the most and the muscles we use rte most can change the structure or the look of our faces. They are not completely seperate things.
But we can always console ourselves thinking that the ugliest often has the most beautiful souls! We will all end up old and grey and unhappy with the face on the mirror. So it is good to keep the following people in mind. Here are four heroes of mine:
1. QUASIMODO
I have watched the movie “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” as a child and haven't forgotten it since then. (For friends who may not know, the movie is based on Victor Hugo's novel . )
Quasimodo was completely deformed: he had a huge hunchback and his left eye was covered with wart. Since no one wanted him, he was adapted as a baby by the archdeacon of Notre Dame, and brought up as the bell ringer of the cathedral. Then he became deaf because of the bells... He was desperately in love with a gypsy girl, Esmeralda, who had no interest in him at all. Well at least she was kind enough to give him some water while he was being tortured. Actually she was in love with another guy, Phoebus, who was very handsome but just shallow and vicious.
There is one scene in that book which will really break your heart, but it will show you what a deep guy Quasimodo was. We must keep the following flowers always in mind!
Here they are:
"One morning, on awaking, Esmeralda saw on her window two vases filled with flowers. One was a very beautiful and very brilliant but cracked vase of glass. It had allowed the water with which it had been filled to escape, and the flowers which it contained were withered. The other was an earthenware pot, coarse and common, but which had preserved all its water, and its flowers remained fresh and crimson.
I know not whether it was done intentionally, but La Esmeralda took the faded nosegay and wore it all day long upon her breast.
That day she did not hear the voice singing in the tower. She troubled herself very little about it."
It is incredibly sad. But Quasimodo was a very strong guy indeed! In fact he was a childhood hero of mine. I know it is not a nice thing to say, but I loved the scene where he threw one enemy after another off the top of Notre Dame!! As a child we live the most defenseless and helpless time of our lives. I thought he had such an effective method of self defense!
2. CYRANO DE BERGERAC
You really must read the play and watch the movie!
Cyrano is a nobleman in the French army, he is an incredibly gifted poet and a great duelist, but he has an extremely large nose. Just like Quasimodo, he also loves a woman who is in love with another guy; good looking and empty headed . You must search on youtube for this: "Cyrano de Bergerac Nose Speech". There you will see the greatness of a person who can make fun of himself!
But the words I love the most by Cyrano are these:
"But to sing, to laugh to dream... To walk in my own way, free, with an eye to see things as they are. A voice that means manhood. To cock my hat where I choose. At a word... a yes, a no. To fight, or write... But never to make a line I have not heard in my own heart. To travel any road under the sun, under the stars. Nor care if fame or fortune lie beyond the bourne. Yet, with all modesty to say, my soul be satisfied with flowers, with weeds, with thorns, even... but gather them in the one garden you may call your own."
3. THE ELEPHANT MAN
You will cry from the beginning to the end, but you can't miss that movie! Before you watch you better read the poem "Nothing will die" by Alfred Lord Tennyson. It may console you a bit. It begins with these verses:
When will the stream be aweary of flowing
Under my eye?
When will the wind be aweary of blowing
Over the sky?
When will the clouds be aweary of fleeting?
When will the heart be aweary of beating?
And nature die?
Never, oh! never, nothing will die;
The stream flows,
The wind blows,
The cloud fleets,
The heart beats,
Nothing will die.
4. ROY L. DENNIS, whose life you can watch in the movie Mask, by Peter Bogdanovich.
It is one of my most beloved movies! Cher won the best actress award in Cannes for her amazing acting. It is a real story and it's all about dignity, love, courage and friendship! And that biker gang is really wonderful!
To make you curious, here I copied a little information about the plot:
"Rocky Dennis, who suffers from a skull deformity, is accepted without question by his freewheeling biker mother's boyfriends, his "extended motorcycle family," and his maternal grandparents, who share his love of baseball card collecting; but is treated with fear, pity, awkwardness, and teasing by those unaware of his humanity, humour,
and intelligence. Rocky's mother, Florence "Rusty" Dennis( Cher) , is determined to give Rocky as normal a life as possible, in spite of her own wild ways as a member of the Turks biker gang, as well as her strained relationship with her parents."
Thank you very much as always for this great lesson!
This is one of the most incorrect videos I have ever watched.
But don't deny this is still an issue worth talking about tho, even if the wrong title was given to it
@@nikolaimaharaj2319 clickbaited
@@McOuroborosBurger what's your point? Don't you still find it's an issue worth talking about
@@nikolaimaharaj2319 it is. However, it doesn't even piggyback off of the name of the classic Mind Body Problem, it just outright calls itself that. The title is misleading in that sense.
@@McOuroborosBurger ok yes you're right
I imagine this is how transgender people feel/felt.
Yup same thing that came to mind when I saw this
This is another prove that justifies the thought i had about history of philosophy as a continuous neurosis. Actually, history in general is, as how i call it, The Great Delirium. Those "trascendental" and "methaphysical" philosophers thought they were talking about something which in reality was escaping from them, the true "mind-body problem" as it is very well explained in this video.
as allways, awesome! thank you for all your great videos!
just saying everything is physical
if your gonna state that then gie me some evidence
tommy tran anti-matter, dark matter, time
pretty sure anti matter and dark matter are physical things even if we can not touch it and also dark matter could possible not be real. time on the other hand could be defined as a human contsruct that we have programmed in our minds and also the universe is composed of fields of varuos things that give rise to particles because of excitment in the field which is engery and as we know engery is physical
elaborate then
Are concepts physical? Is the number 2 physical?
When you have no idea what a philosophic term means so you completely make up it's definition to appeal to the largest demographic that will give you money.
at first i thout whoa, that is soo true. my outward appearance to reality is both a shallow misrepresentation of the depth of me (whichi i still dont know) ,but i've always known that.
Once a art historian teacher talked that we are all appearance while he was trying to understand baroque painting. He regarded himself as an historian, of course, i understand such a thing coming out from an historian.
Are there any attractive shy people here? I feel as though it's rarely, if not never, talked about. Haha
Part of the problem is that a shy person tends to be more humble and hidden. They might not think they are attractive. For example, I have had people hit on my or say that I am attractive but I do not believe them. There are probably many shy attractive people that do not believe they are attractive even when they are told so by others, from my experience.
I agree. Surely there are many people who are both shy and attractive, but they won't come out and say so because they don't see themselves as attractive.
In my experience, that tends to happen to people who weren't always attractive, "ugly" or "weird" kids who were teased growing up and still believe themselves to be unattractive despite having changed completely.
me :D
hksdnwl hello lol
4:08 That includes you, Transgenders and people with gender dysphoria.
Robotputty yess 💚 so happy to see that.
there are a good number of transgender people that don't want to change their bodies, they just want other people to Treat them as the gender they feel they are. a lot of transgender people only have surgeries or take hormones because the outside world is unlikely to treat them as their gender, unless they look the way society says each gender Should look.
"that includes you, Transgenders" try again
Thats like saying overweight people should stay fat because ''they should be happy with who they are''. You obviously have no idea what gender dysphoria is and what is does to one. No one has the right to tell other people what they should do
You've missed the point of the video, but don't let that stop you from making an asinine comment that tries to invalidate people's right to self-expression.
Good thing is, in internet we all are just text and sometimes also a name or a picture. So, in a way, I think that talking with someone without actually having a body, a voice or even a gender or age to associate them with allows us to get closer to actually know who they are.
you would be my best friend if we ever happen to meet each other. because this series is like exactly how i think. it doesn't come naturally I just tend to observe and think passionately since very young ... I can bring myself to think rationately as well as separate my subjective thinking with that of course objective thinking. as well as balancing a deep character with that of an easy going character . I think I really do enjoy life. :) thank you for these videos. they make me very happy. ^_^
this is fundamental.
thank you!
I think about this very problem a lot. Mainly when people around are judgy about others’ appearance. We would all look so very different if we chose our appearance.
Great! And the illustration matches perfectly with the topic.
This video about the Mind Body Problem is not a philosophical topic but rather and social/psychology topic.