Nagaland massacre shows AFSPA is a deadly addiction. Does Modi govt have the courage to kick it?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Much of the Northeast doesn't need a tough law such as AFSPA. No government will dare repeal it, but it can at least be imposed very selectively. Watch Shekhar Gupta in #NationalInterest
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@ "If you agree on everything i said, then one of us is unnecessary" - Tsun Tzu
Very relevant points. I was posted in Nagaland as an Army officer in the 90s, and have to say that the people of the NE deserve much better treatment
The people of Nagaland state and all rebel political organization headed by people based in Nagaland..and in negotiations with the GOI are demanding an early political accord based on already mutually agreed points. When will the GOI make the move?.. that is the question. AFSPA is not the lone issue but the accord that everyone in Nagaland has been expecting is not materializing even after two decades of negotiations.
@@Lucas-ix8bg the rebel groups, their leaders and also most local political leaders have a vested interest in the status quo. They are all milking the tax payers in their own way
@@udaymukherji4527 its not only them my friend.
There is around 11 factions of rebel groups who are in ceasefire with the govt of india. Each of them claim itsrlf as legitimate govt and collects tax. Then there is the state govt that loot funds since being a so called sensitive state there is hardly any accountability. Then everybody misses this big picture..the army and the other security agencies also enjoys unlimited powers and funds under the guise of national security.
Pick your poison.
@@udaymukherji4527 This incident was such a disappointment since the nagaland CM was in Delhi with the home minister Amit Shah and all the people of the state was expecting a Christmas gift...then this happened.
@@Lucas-ix8bg Yes, we all want truth about the incident. AFSPA should be repealed with immediate effect.
Justice should be done.
Speaking as a staunch Indian nationalist and a proud patriot of this country, I strongly believe AFSPA needs to go. It is a blot on our nation and brings shame to us.
@ looks like you are ashamed enough on everyone’s behalf, so no need for me.
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Indeed AFSPA is an addiction. A short fix. The Indian army and the Central Govt are hooked to it.
Manmohan when he was PM siad that the greatest threat to India were the Naxals. How come no AFSPA in these areas/states?
AFSPA has been in operation since 1958. What solution has it brought? But India lacks the courage to repeal it.
AFSPA has not been in operation in Naxal Areas because Indian Army doesn't operate there. Half knowledge is alway dangerous
@@iblakshyaacioii1062 Watch the video again, better listen.
@@iblakshyaacioii1062 why step motherly treatment on N.E states?
Very well articulated episode. Thank you from Nagaland 🙏
how about abrogation of art 371 a? its about time is it not
@@vm3306 that you're conflating the two betrays your ignorance. One sees the Nagas as a valued minority with distinctive customs, while the other lazily treats all Nagas as 'hostiles'. You probably also think that Christians are anti-nationals? Forgive me if I'm wrong but that was the messaging in your text.
@@huthuka don't try to bring Christian religion in this issues. There is China pushing their agenda
Let's first ask for abrogation of art 371 a so that Nagaland becomes just like another state and the naga citizens just like all others.
Everyone is special and equal for the country
Why Nagaland gets special status as per art 371 a.
Have the cake and eat it too.
@@vm3306 I ask the 'Christian question' because quite a lot of my countrymen believe that there is safety only in homogenity. So, are Christians anti-nationals?
On the issue of article 371(a), it was not given to Nagas as beggar's alms. It was a commitment by the people in power who recognised the unique peril that that Nagas were in, having minor but distinctive cultural and traditional systems. Whether this should continue in perpetuity is a matter for discussion. The HM Amit Shah, an avowed 'patriot' took pains to reiterate that 371 (a) would in way be tampered with after the abrogation of 370 in Kashmir. Why he did so after the brazen move in Kashmir defies my understanding. However, it in no way constitutes as a talking point when discussing AFSPA.
A nation exists not in the minds of delusional, screaming hotheads, but in its ethos and it's spirit. Perhaps you disagree with me on this point too, but the modern idea of justice and equlaity do not exist because it is convenient, but because it is right.
@@vm3306 one need to understand the historical context and the importance of preserving culture in which article 371 (A) came into being before demanding it's removal. It's not wise to debate without knowing the ground reality. Peace out 🙏
Gupta sir is a true ambassador and a friend to the northeast India.
All we want from our other fellow brothers and sisters from the mainland is to think exactly the way Gupta sir's thought process works.
The print is the best.
Yasss!
With you brothers and sisters🙏🏼🙏🏼.
What have AFSPA achieved so far since 1958? Nothing..
You may have earned the ire of the left and the right, but sir you have earned the respect of every true right thinking Indian
Northeast doesn't need the AFSPA. Only if you consider northeast a legitimate part of India.
The more you tighten the string the more it is likely to break.
It's only been 70 years or so, stop acting like the british. We have a long history of driving away the intruders, do not push us towards the opposite side of the fence.
1000 Years...😅😅
Most of our naga people feel as a part of India; The question is "is India serious in considering the nagas as one"
Yes, brother. AFSPA will be repealed soon, i hope.
Yes
@@HarshvardhanLaw By whom? Please clarify. INC brought the Act. Most of the atrocities were during their dark era when even Media was not free to report on the matters.
@@sankalp6872 BJP is the party with a difference, right? Then they should take the initiative and repeal this draconian legislation that our brothers are being subjected to.
@@HarshvardhanLaw well said bro
The central Govt should make sure they support and enforce Good political leaders, who are willing to bring development, security and prosperity to their people in North East region. If they can do that, they need not worry about any internal affairs from the region.
This is the SG I know and love. Sharp, witty, pointy critic. Seemed to have lost some of ur magic off late. Glad ur back❤️💯
Agree
A democracy like India does not need AFSPA. I feel our Armed Forces are professional enough to work without the need of a law like AFSPA. Working with impunity behind the shield of AFSPA does not add to the glory of our Armed Forces.
Ask any civilians in Nagaland aged over 45, if they have ever been harassed by the armed forces. Atleast 80% (as many are death and gone and the rape victims won't talk either), if not all will affirm that they have indeed been harassed. Ask if anyone there know have been killed, you will know the horror of AFSPA.
I'm 30 and back in late 90's, I still rememberthe Assam rifles gathering the whole of my village males above 30, lined them up, beat them up with sticks and later marched them up in line with blindfolds to another village alleging that the villagers are keeping mum on the whereabouts of the insurgents.(nscn-im)
Sir, if those in the parliament the so called peoples representatives have analyzed and studied the situations like you do, our country could have been a much much better place to live in peace. Thank you so much .
BJP governance is murder and destruction of india and democracy tearing and shredding the Constitution of india
@@julianfernandes383 didn't congress ping 2 rupees for your statement
@@julianfernandes383 They use the insane policy now to protect the citizenship of the country and not ever to receive they mistake also look proud what they do now.
Rahul Gandhi always raised the Naga issue but NPF has always been with BJP even when Congress & UPA were in power.
Superb episode with empathy and intelligence. Thank you
Thank you sir for understanding the most crucial and sensitive situation of our problems and plights. Most of the mainland Indians wouldn't know the grave situation and suffering of the north eastern people living under the draconian law of AFSPA. This law or act has taken away all the freedom that we are supposed to enjoy under the democratic constitution of India. We live in a so called largest democratic country in the world where we live in fear for our lives each and every day. We live in a situation where our physical features and appearance,our dressing styles,our daily activities for survival,the way we interact with others determines our lives whether we live or die from the bullets of our own protectors(from the so called friends of the hill people). We are shot down dead in the market square because we turned left where we are supposed to face right or because our hands were inside the pocket and it looked suspecious.
Do keep writing in.
Very well explained, Shekhar Gupta ji. Please talk about AFSPA in Manipur too. Today you talked about AFSPA not being imposed in the Naxal affected areas. Glad to hear the truth. We want AFSPA be repealed for NE India.
Excellent stuff... loaded with information! One of the best national interests!
#Shekhar nicely cluttered, it's unfortunate that we hv insurgency problem here in Nagaland but we are peace loving people. We don't deserve a law like AFSPA to tackle insurgency n torture the innocence.
Sir really appreciated for your encouragement messagn to the nation there's no black and white we stand together for the nation (India) coz we are totally Indian
When we have too many" Patriots ", the least , The Government can have to deal with "Patriots" is AFSPA
I agree with u and i live in delhi and cant imagine a afspa like situation here .....
@@shrinivaskoppal india is not only contry with problems everyone has it....we can deal with china or russia way or like a liberal democracy....
Absolutely 👌
Nicely explained in brief yet breakdown all the important points related to AFSPA prevailing in North East. Mr. Shekhar , you have addressed the current situation of Manipur , wrt AFSPA very well. 5/5 ( my rating 😀 , for that analysis )
It would be very useful for our friends for who are not from North East.
Sir, it was a great thought out analysis about AFSPA.
Indian democracy is strange to be very honest. We are the only democratic country that gives blanket immunity to military killings(without going into the merit of whether they were justified, sops followed), we carried on with sedition laws and worst of all we have preventive detention as part of Constitution.
USA and NATO Has killed 1.25 million iraqis and 250k afghanis as a reveng against 9/11 in which only 4000 people died... What about that???
@@Jagan-lp8gu India is a third world poor country compared to USA.America has lots of economic and military power and can get away with even murder but not a poor country like India
True brother.💖
@@majimakiriyu4872 china was a 3rd wold country still holds tibet and xingxiang...
Will power matters
@@Jagan-lp8guIndia is not even economically powerful as China BTW even though it is a third world country and I was talking about USA and NATO . Don't shift topics here and there
High time to accept that AFSPA have no place in a truly democratic India. Development is the only way forward.
AFSPA in Kashmir, i can understand.
AFSPA in North East, i cannot understand.
If it stays long, more destruction is ahead of our nation.
There won't be a good unity among us with the North East region.
This AFSPA makes me think its imposed based on Religion and Race differences.
Both Kashmiris and North Easterns looks different from the rest of indians.
Sorry, it just come up.
We are not in a position to continue with the law, else more hate will garner more problems and we have nothing to gain.
The hypocrisy is startling.
It should not be there in Kashmir also Army and police troops can be still present in Kashmir without AFSPA. Nobody deserves this.
Both kashmir and northeast victims of same propaganda and same fate.
Human rights and AFSPA cannot go together. They r contradictory.
North easterners I can understand, but Kashmiris look the same as mainland Indians.
@@munchkin54 why shouldn't it be in Kashmir? Don't you know the history of terrorism in Kashmir?
Totally agreed Shekar Guptaji! AFSPA, however bad the law is, is required in J&K. But it's time to repeal it in NE India. If I were a citizen living under AFSPA, I too would detest the armed forces just like those peoples
Your Journalism standard is pure "GOLD"
Yes sir you are right AFSPA is not necessary in this 21st century .Repeal AFSPA fr Northeast and Jammu Kashmir.
not from jammu and kashmir
I agree to repeal it from the northeast. J&K would be too premature.
Nagaland Ambush shows only one thing - government intelligence was outsmarted by double crossing.
Army blindly walked itself into a perfect trap set for it. It was a very well planned and very well executed trap including the follow through riots. I admire the perfection, deploring it at the same time.
Indeed this is a case of perfect double crossing by whoever fed the information to the army.
Yes, it looks like a failed attempt to orchestrate a pathankot/ surgical strike like incident for the upcoming UP elections.
@@bossman1502 I don't think central government has anything to do with it.
@@bbb7467 Central Government has a lot to do with it. They have AFSPA in place and the Army and other central agencies working at their behest in Nagaland. The state government is helpless in such a scenario. It is an open fact that the current dispensation at the centre can go upto any extent to win elections, from the killing of 50 CRPF personnel just before the LS elections, to killing of innocent civilians and attempt to brand them as terrorists just before UP elections.
@@bossman1502 this is your mental pollution and hatred for someone you don't like . May be you are trying to whitewash the action of Adeel Ahmad dar and your ideological brothers and terrorists.
The act is being equally misused in Kashmir. The duplicity is apparent because naxalites are responsible for the most casualties of fellow Indians, but they are nominally Hindu.
AFSPA has blackened the image of India, the greatest democratic Country of the World.You are rightly said, thankyou Sir.
Scale down Afpsa...while you may arm a team from Nagaland police and train them in anti insurgency operations (Something similar to what kps gill did)
Bro, that is not AFSPA. AFSPA is specifically to enable military units into operating domestically.
@@riichobamin7612 insurgency should be dealt with naga police itself so that the army will not interfere it
@@Jagan-lp8gu yeah if the govt provides the police with adequate resources and equipment and doesn't send the army itself. Army doesn't come by it's own volition, it is sent by the Govt. So if Govt send the army, how can the police work ?
@@riichobamin7612 i agree with you AFSPA should be repealed since Nagaland does not have as bad a condition as kashmir...
@@Jagan-lp8gu 👍🏻
"If Bjp really mean to undo congress blunders, repealing Afspa will be a tremendous image booster"
The duty of a TRUE PATRIOT is to protect his/her country from its Government.
Amongst several flaws, in my opinion ASPA in its application is arguably a form of racial discrimination. Where applied, people are ethnically different from other parts of India.
India is not ethnically homogeneous and so there will always be difference in ethnicities. The law has been applied wherever the law and order had broken down completely under the civil administration and the army had to move in. It was once there in Punjab and Chandigarh too.
@@sreekr Put AFSPA in Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand if it is truly for "law and order". Why has ASPA been always in ethnic/ religious minority states
@@ekkas1036 It has been put in places where the civil administration completely lost control of law and order and the army had to move in. This has happened in places which border other countries and there has been flow of weapons in. Chattisgarh not being a border state has meant that the availability of weapons and other external support is not as bad as in kashmir, Punjab and north east.
@@sreekr Perspective. Who has applied it and on whom. Try applying AFSPA in “wild Wild West” of Uttar Pradesh, Haryana, rajasthan, mp etc. SG got it right - AFSPA is still acceptable because it’s being applied to places that are far away from the politics of Delhi. It’s being applied on people who’s vote don’t make it break a national election. It’s being applied on people who don’t comprise a large abstract homogeneous group- ethno-linguistic.
@@emporerofindia It is applied on places which descend into breadown of civil administration and the proliferation of arms and armed groups. A place nearest to Delhi where it was applied - Punjab.
#repealAFSPA
We want justice for 14 innocent civilians mercilessly killed and murdered by Indian Army at oting village in mon district Nagaland.#REPEALAFSPA
Stop killing innocent Kashmiris....💚
@@imtiazkhan377 nope not the same u can shut it
@@imtiazkhan377 for the Islamic kashmir..Go to pakistan... You jeehadi
The indian govt will never remove AFSPA from NE. Nor has it ever paid any attention to the region. All it wants are the votes. But UP for them is much more important than the whole of NE combined. After all this alienation, mainland indians wonder why there is secessionist tendency among the NE people.
If only the govt at the centre could process thoughts like this and reason why they are addicted to such a draconian one sided law. AFSPA is a two-edged sword, it bleeds on both sides. Like all addictions, AFSPA will hurt and haunt families, communities, state, region and eventually the nation. This recent event already has.
After a very long time "National Interest" episode talks about National Interest.
they way you explain is too good, real journalists talks about real thing's and your knowledge about NE-India is incredible.....
Sir i like your deep thought and explanation may our good Lord bless you good health and give long life 🙏🙏🙏
You make my mornings SG! Always love to watch you explain interesting topics first thing in the mornings.
i like how sg is getting shit for “saying he supports afspa in kashmir”, he legitimately said it will not happen because bothe the mainstream parties are populist kAnts who will not repeal it in kashmir because kashmir is not an “insurgecy” but a full fleged proxy war in the most sensitive and strategic part of the country.
and best thing is, they are calling him a bigot and an islamophobe.
The saddest thing that we learn from this episode is that the mainstream media despite knowing the ground realities of our situations is that they go on creating such false/prejudiced narratives to the already ignorant sections residing in mainland India. (Instead of enlightening them with balanced views/narratives. We believe/understand that the other section knows what to believe or not of their reporting). Appreciated for you efforts sir.👍🙏
BSF is one such unit which lacks discipline. Have lived in Assam and thag too in Karimganj. We have seen both Army regiments as well as BSF jawans. Army has always been disciplined, non-provocative but BSF will fight, argue with any civilians, including school children. I still remember we were in 8th standard and going to school with bicycles. It was end of school and children were flocking out which stopped the BSF trucks. A few of them drew their guns out and shouted "bc, mc hatt jao warna gand main daal dunga". Not much kids knew the slangs but were shit scared when guns were drawn at them, including me. This is why BSF is and now they got jurisdiction increased from 5kms radius to 50 kms radius which is like they r can search entire districts of Karimganj.
Have voted for BJP for two times in 2014 and 2019 and its like choosing the lesser evil. You want to tackle insurgency, have better relationship with civilians and a better network, not provide more supreme power to people who knows that guns have brought food to their house and not an education
Very relevant and pragmatic analysis. And thank you for bringing forth the menace of naxal violence in discussion; once again the marginalized groups have kept the movement running long after it lost its relevance.
In Chhattisgarh we have achieved peace in many areas where we have earned the trust of local tribes, empowered them and have integrated them to the main economy. The circle is vicious but someone has to break it.
As my friend Rhiddhis Chakravorty says that AFSPA should be enacted throughout India as everywhere there's some kind of antisocial element disturbing the peace. Of course, it's in sarcasm but the point is that the Army is not trained for Internal Threats and other trained forces are trained to face the consequences in such cases.
Sir , there is no better person having detailed knowledge of NE Than You do...Keep voicing .....👍👍👍
The print is appreciated for impartial reporting.
Such a simple and detailed explanation.
❤
Northeast is not a training ground for AFSPA, not a training ground for ambush.
NE people are the most sensitive , friendly and hospitable people. Yet we are treated with iron clad Black law so called AFSPA. How long do we have to tolerate step motherly treatment? Are the also gallantry awards for killing ,raping and torturing innocent people?????
#RepealAFSPA
WE ARE INDIANS AS MUCH AS YOU ARE.
Removing AFSPA means politicians, police, bureaucracy, armed forces has to put in real work to reach people. To bring in massive PR campaigns, outreach programs. AFSPA is easy full impunity!
Chhatisgarh is a hindi speaking state from the Heartland with a Hindu majority. Nagaland is a NE tribal state which is too far from the Heartland and mostly Christian. This is the only reason a mostly peaceful Nagaland is brutalised under AFSPA where as inspite of murdering more Indian security personnel than Kashmir and all North Eastern states put together, Chhatisgarh gets a pass. Will any government of any party have the balls to impose AFSPA in the Gadchiroli region of Maharashtra ? No, but they'll still keep entire Assam under this draconian law.
All they care about is which state has more seats in the parliament. They will sacrifice entire NE and all other small states in order to secure the big states.
Gd point 👌
Do you have figures which corroborate that more security personnel have been killed in Chattisgarh than in kashmir or the north east ? Seems an obvious lie driven by some motive. To my knowledge, Kashmir is where the most casualties happen every year.
@@sreekr Armed forces yes Kashmir. Include all personnel in uniform, for example CRPF, more people in uniform are murdered by the naxals than all all other insurgents put together.
Crisp, to the point without being defensive...one of the best episodes of National Interest 👌
Put AFSPA in nagpur....there is an organization there that refused to hoist national tricolor for 60 yrs.
SG’s suggestion to remove from AFSPA from less troublesome areas is sensible. Which government will bite the bullet. Modi, as in the case of Farm Laws, might make the sudden announcement if it were to bring electoral dividends which anyhow is most unlikely.
It's like modern colonialism 🤣🤣 even the AFSPA is spread in the areas where they are separatists from or before the Indian independence wow bravo ...
Army should be given power but also have accountability.. if you cannot prove the people killed are terrorists then the army unit has to punished more specifically the intelligence unit
I in love with this series 💘.thanks print
Highly appreciated sir... ❤️👍
Appreciated Sir , for your excellent views✌
Well thought out and explained 👍
1. Relook for AFSPA in NE is required.
2. Modus operandi of armed forces operating in NE also needs Relook..
AFSPA should have been removed already. There has been no significant insurgency movement since long. Supporting removal of AFSPA from NE on trial basis immediately.
Two laws have been in news recently which need to be amended to say the least; the NDPS Act, now the AFSPA. Both have some clauses which need to be changed for good.
Also, when talking about 'bad ideas' AGR Dues are also in the market.
Very interesting point. Respect 🙌
Forget Modi Government. No Govt. has the honesty and the guts to bring this draconian law down.
Well it is convenient for you to sit in a peaceful place to say these things ... when I was a Col. In the 2010 I knew what was the situation on the ground because we are a Proffesional armed force where as they can strike anytime and where is the law which says you can only respond only after an attack is underway.. ??
AFSPA needs to be removed. But a counter insurgency operation like in Punjab should be done first.
This is like asking "does Rahul Gandhi have courage to be CM of Pondicherry".
Thank you sir! THANK YOU. I wish more people saw it like this.
And what about a soldier is beheaded there by locals??
Indian govt should be mature to deal with disputes in truth and love no matter what it takes and not through Millitary action.
Sir thank you for loving north east India
Let's not forget Manmohan also said the minorities have first right to natural resources.
Sir your explanation is outstanding
Always keeping me up to date 🙌🏽
Its time to remove ASPA ..remember what justice says , never punish an innocent even if u let free a hundred real culprit ..
I never get AFSPA, This law is for your enemy and if the people of Nagaland and Kashmir are the enemy of India treat them as such or else stop barking "we are all Indians". This double standard treatment will not solve anything and worse stop worshipping arm forces, most of them believe they are bollywood heroes from the Movie BORDER ...real life isnt SANDHESE AATE HEI
The Soldiers themselves should demand to erased afspa from the Govt of India if they really cares their own Citizens.
AFSPA, UAPA and NSA, all need to be abolished. No full grown democracies has such acts.
Really amazing that you are aware of Laws of all full grown democracies! I will take 100 lives to reach at your level!
@@priyamawasthi6254 Amazing that you don't know of google search.
@@badalism Yeah! Couldn't make into Google University! So pathetic my little life is!
@@priyamawasthi6254 Then why not go back watching RepublicTV.
No no, you seem more entertaining!
There should be
Anti Insurgency wing of nagaland police only
they will help
actually i have to say it they will deal it better than the army ......
Get rid of this draconian law (without any exceptions) ....
You must not say with confidence that the law will not go. If it is not in national interest, it will have to go.
What is the reason that it is still around? This will have to be debated by the policy makers.
We are a democracy. Change happens. It cannot be quick always, but it happens.
Sir , the tragedy as you correctly mentioned, NE India is too far from our mainland.
However Indian army too is battling against the laws in Nagaland .
AFSPA repealed - again upsurge begins then what ?
Most of Northeast state are now under BJP this shows that how they are allied with our central govt, Northeast is not a Kashmir that demand for separate country what we need is just peace and development, Ok I agree that still there is some insurgents group exist
But tell me in which state there is no insurgents, it doesn't mean that everything should be tackle with iron fist if regular army routine can easily handle such a situation then why AFSPA ? Just to provoke the public sentiment as china and some other country wanted..????
Very much true. Main stream media never tell this type of truth
India is world's largest democracy🤣
AFSPA: Hold my tea☕
Really what ever you said sir that is very true we trible people of North East people are innocent and open minded..justice must delivered deliver..thank you..for making video
We northeast people are face lot of problems under the power of AFSPA
The analysis should have addressed the hypothetical question, had this erroneous ops taken place without AFSPA, what would have happened to the soldiers? What protection they could have had ever if its an ops error which always is a high possibility in any such ops.
The local help was not taken, perhaps the reliability of these sources was a concern.
A deeper examination of flip side of AFPSA would have given a 360 degree view.
Great video, but I don't accept the religious angle in why AFSPA is not used for naxalism.
Repeal AFSPA from Northeast and Kashmir
I just love how the people of Nagaland here are commenting here
Very rational and sensible for a change from most regional disgruntlements. Yes the people of other regions and most of the political parties don't understand the issues well enough
BJP with Hemanta being a top leader might be an exception if they try enough
I wish Guptaji is a parliamentarian
Totally agreed 👍
Can you make video on AFSPA in manipur
When this kind of massacres was happen in Manipur in the Shadow of AFSPA no any North East India State are not supported. But now it is time . Let's kick AFSPA ass 🔥.
God bless u sir u stand wit truth